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[06:06] <openbox> Hello. Are you guys still going to port Openbox to Mir?
[06:44] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [So Ubuntu Studio moves to kde], Wow
[06:44] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @openbox [<openbox> Hello. Are you guys still going to port Openbox to Mir?], I don't think we are.
[06:45] <lubot> <rudrabali> @HMollerCl [So Ubuntu Studio moves to kde], Nice!
[07:29] <openbox> theloudspeaker Ok will you use another wm instead of openbox then?
[07:43] <lubot> <princeofclay> (Photo, 576x1280) https://i.imgur.com/imQYQGD.jpg
[07:43] <lubot> <princeofclay> (Photo, 1078x1032) https://i.imgur.com/WHccvyN.jpg
[07:43] <lubot> <princeofclay> Probably off topic, but don't blame me for bringing super secret information😂
[07:44] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Isn't surprising to me
[07:44] <lubot> <princeofclay> I was slightly skeptical about Ubuntu snapping the Software Centre, but this is next level really..
[08:14] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @princeofclay [I mean, even I was slightly skeptical about Ubuntu snapping the Software Centre, …], Why is it next level ? I liked the apt one because of the amount of softwares present in it. Snap has less things.
[08:15] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @openbox [<openbox> theloudspeaker Ok will you use another wm instead of openbox then?], We will be sticking with openbox for now.
[08:15] <lubot> <rudrabali> hmm, what about the window borders?
[08:15] <lubot> <rudrabali> that is one point which I don't like
[08:16] <lubot> <rudrabali> only reason why I use KDE mostly
[08:17] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Window borders are good only imo.
[08:18] <lubot> <princeofclay> @The_LoudSpeaker [Why is it next level ? I liked the apt one because of the amount of softwares pr …], Ohk, clarify this for me, because I can be misguided. Does Canonical own some paid propreitary binaries used in the development of Snaps for which publishers need to pay Canonical?  … And if not, then is are there any other 
[08:18] <lubot> parts in snaps or snap devel which are propreitary?
[08:19] <lubot> <princeofclay> I'm not against anyone paying Canonical. I'm just against for a restrictive format to become universal
[08:20] <lubot> <rudrabali> @The_LoudSpeaker [Window borders are good only imo.], outdated
[08:20] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I don't have the answer to that. But I think @popeydc or @tsimonq2 or @RikMills or wxl: might have the answer.
[08:20] <lubot> <princeofclay> Its like using X country jets without knowing what they do against y country by country z. X controls y then.
[08:21] <lubot> <princeofclay> @The_LoudSpeaker [I don't have the answer to that. But I think @popeydc or @tsimonq2 or @RikMills …], Ok, Thank You!
[08:21] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @rudrabali [outdated], Each one to it's own. 🤷🏻‍♂️
[11:34] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @rudrabali [outdated], You mean the blue border? That can be modified, the problem for me with that is that dark windows get confused where one ends and the other behind
[11:34] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Begins
[11:35] <lubot> <rudrabali> referring to the modern one in many :) but I suppose we don't need it, especially for the low-end ones
[11:36] <lubot> <rudrabali> gnome, kde, cinnamon etc. have that new flat one
[11:44] <lubot> <HMollerCl> You can modify the Openbox theme
[12:07] <lubot> <rudrabali> by default?
[12:09] <lubot> <kc2bez> By default Openbox has nothing configured.
[12:09] <lubot> <princeofclay> Ig these is what you are looking for … https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/focal/obconf … There's can be a case made for it to be installed (and integrated if possible) by default in 20.04.1
[12:10] <lubot> <kc2bez> @princeofclay [Ig these is what you are looking for … https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/focal/ob …], In Lubuntu? We already have it installed.
[12:11] <lubot> <princeofclay> @kc2bez [In Lubuntu? We already have it installed.], Is it? I didn't check. All should be well then
[12:30] <lubot> <rudrabali> changing it by default?
[12:31] <lubot> <HMollerCl> there are alot of themes, some of theme don't have borders
[12:31] <lubot> <HMollerCl> we could make a lubuntu borderless theme
[12:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> the problem is that if you don't use compton for transparency/shadow you get confused when a window enters and the other ends.
[12:34] <lubot> <HMollerCl> and w/o borthers is more complicated to "grab" thw window and change size
[12:34] <lubot> <HMollerCl> speccialy in the bottom, so we compromise look in favor of usabillity
[12:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> *at the bottom
[13:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T160: Explore kcmshell5] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T160
[20:38] <lubot> <lynorian> @HMollerCl [and w/o borthers is more complicated to "grab" thw window and change size], I find borders actually useful for ui and more useable as it is hard to sometimes see the windoww borders.
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[20:49] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward001 You should be able to export Phab data right from S3 using the CLI
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[21:07] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 wxl do you see feasible (in an easy way) to compile a plasma kcm_module standalone? See https://phab.lubuntu.me/T160
[21:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] Explore kcmshell5: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T160
[21:23] <wxl> @HMollerCl i'm not sure. my general experience is that if plasma's involved, it's nearly impossible to decouple it.
[21:23] <wxl> probably need to ask kde folks
[21:23] <wxl> and by that i mean upstream kde folks since i'm sure they would have a broader range of experience of people using different components of KDE with other non-KDE components
[21:24] <lubot> <HMollerCl> where can I ask them? maybe @RikMills knows
[21:26] <lubot> <RikMills> @HMollerCl [where can I ask them? maybe @RikMills knows], Something I saw the other day said that KDE are trying to get rid of the KCMs running via kcmshell5, and just have them accessible through systemsettings
[21:28] <wxl> well that's strange
[21:28] <wxl> oops wrong channel
[21:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @RikMills [Something I saw the other day said that KDE are trying to get rid of the KCMs ru …], buu
[21:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> but systemsettings is not plasmoid :D
[21:33] <lubot> <RikMills> huh?
[21:34] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I can install it w/o installing plasma, it doesn't bring much overhead
[21:34] <lubot> <HMollerCl> n
[21:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> sudo apt purge systemsettings              … Reading package lists... Done … Building dependency tree        … Reading state information... Done … The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: …   libkf5activitiesstats1 qml-module-org-kde-kcm … Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. … The followi
[21:35] <lubot> ng packages will be REMOVED: …   systemsettings* … 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. … After this operation, 1.433 kB disk space will be freed.
[21:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> only 1.433Kb free after purge,
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