[14:43] <greg-g> oh god: https://blog.zoom.us/wordpress/2020/05/07/zoom-acquires-keybase-and-announces-goal-of-developing-the-most-broadly-used-enterprise-end-to-end-encryption-offering/
[14:46] <jrwren> right?!?
[14:46] <jrwren> I am disappoint
[14:46] <jrwren> but I never really bought into keybase.
[14:46] <jrwren> Still, it was an interesting project.
[14:47] <greg-g> yeah, I have an account and such, I was even contacted by someone through it to share a password (legitimate). But that's the extent of my use really
[14:48] <cmaloney> I never quite understood Keybase
[14:48] <cmaloney> but it feels like two places that don't quite understand encryption handling encryption
[14:49] <greg-g> I think if you bought into it, it made sense: private communications, sharing of secrets/files, private git repo. Great for teams (the person who shared a password with me uses it on their dev team)
[14:49] <cmaloney> Yeah, but it felt like you REALLY had to buy into their ecosystem
[14:49] <greg-g> yeah, this is totally a "we fucked up on encryption, either intentionally or unintentially, so let's buy someone to make it look like we'll get better at it"
[14:50] <cmaloney> and Zoom doesn't seem like a good fit
[14:50] <jrwren> oh i think the coders creating the solutions at keybase knew whatt they were doing.
[14:50] <jrwren> it is just their goal of making PGP easy just isn't that interesting or useful.
[14:50] <jrwren> i never installed their app. I'd always copy and paste the GPG commands ;)
[14:51] <cmaloney> Is it GPG on the back-end?
[14:51] <jrwren> yes.
[14:51] <cmaloney> Ah, OK
[14:51] <jrwren> it is just a nice API and app on top of GPG
[14:51] <cmaloney> So it's not quite as Dunning Keyserver as I thought it was
[14:52] <jrwren> lol... kruger keyserver
[14:52] <cmaloney> my favorite derrogative term for Bitcoin is Dunning Kreugerands
[14:52] <cmaloney> dunning krugerrands  if I knew how to spell
[14:53] <cmaloney> Got that from here: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2017/11/today-in-dunning-krugerrand-news/
[14:53] <jrwren> lol
[14:53] <jrwren> i don't really get it.
[14:54] <jrwren> why wouldn't you just say Dunning Kruger?
[14:54] <cmaloney> Krugerrands are gold
[14:54] <cmaloney> Gold Coins from South Africa
[14:54] <jrwren> oh, that is why I don't understand. makes more sense now.
[14:54] <cmaloney> The Krugerrand was introduced in 1967 as a vehicle for private ownership of gold. It was minted in a copper-gold alloy more durable than pure gold. Economic sanctions against South Africa for its policy of apartheid made the Krugerrand an illegal import in many Western countries during the 1970s and 1980s.
[14:55] <cmaloney> If only there were a source for knowledge. ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krugerrand
[14:57] <cmaloney> Apparently they're worth more than I thought. Google claims the asking price is around $1,700
[15:11] <greg-g> TIL
[15:12] <cmaloney> Same
[15:47] <cmaloney> https://nitter.net/LibyanCossack/status/1258423114997915658#m
[15:55] <greg-g> oh, nitter is just a proxy for twitter?
[15:55] <greg-g> fancy-proxy, I guess
[15:59] <cmaloney> Yeah
[22:22] <jrwren> just found a USB with 16.04 on it... ancient in linux years ;)
[23:22] <jrwren> whoa... the 16.04 boots and sees the wifi chip and drivers andwork and network works, but popos 20.04 boots and does not. Linux going backwards :(
[23:48] <cmaloney> fun fun