[00:00] <kZo> Hey all.
[00:03] <curloxide> hi
[00:04] <asdfgh> leftyfb, let me check
[00:04] <asdfgh> Linux desktop 5.3.0-46-generic #38~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 31 04:17:56 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:04] <asdfgh> if i remember it correctly it is 5.3.50 with that problem
[00:04] <asdfgh> or .51? i do not remember exactly. however the kernel i am using now is the previous one
[00:06] <leftyfb> asdfgh: try enabling the proposed repo which will give you .52 and try that
[00:06] <kZo> I really would like to migrate my primary desktop over to linux, but the gaming capabilities just arent there yet.   The biggest problem is Apex Legends.  It's the number one game I play.   Anyone know much about how to get Apex Legends running?  Anyone been successful?  Sounds like it's the EAC that is causing it to have issues, but just have not seen the support for it.   That along with Call of Duty Modern
[00:06] <kZo> Warfare.   :(
[00:07] <asdfgh> leftyfb, what repo exactly?
[00:07]  * curloxide advises not to use "apt autoremove"
[00:09] <leftyfb> !proposed
[00:09] <leftyfb> asdfgh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[00:10] <curloxide> maybe make a kernel backup of the one you're using right now in case some random script removes it
[00:10] <curloxide> while you're at tit
[00:10] <curloxide> IT*
[00:10] <curloxide> AA
[00:10] <leftyfb> curloxide: there's no need to make a backup of the current latest kernel in the ubuntu repo'
[00:11] <curloxide> not the latest kernel, the working kernel
[00:12] <leftyfb> linux-image-5.3.0-46-generic is still available in the repo's as well
[00:12] <asdfgh> leftyfb, how is that posssible that i cannot open software & updates ?
[00:12] <asdfgh> i mean, if i write software & updates i see a windows that check updates and stop.
[00:12] <asdfgh> i do not have that window
[00:12] <curloxide> alternative: /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:12] <curloxide> uncomment (Remove the # from) the proposed repo
[00:16] <asdfgh> leftleg_, cant open settings
[00:16] <asdfgh> i do not know way
[00:16] <leftyfb> asdfgh: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ $(lsb_release -sc)-proposed restricted main universe"
[00:20] <asdfgh> thanks leftyfb
[00:52] <noraatepernos> Has anyone seen a resource that documents simple bash scripts as a Docker alternative?  Like on the left side of the screen is Docker and on the right is “or just put this in your bash script” ?
[00:57] <n0n3m> Hello, I'm not sure to be in the right place, but I found that a missing /usr/lib/llvm-9/lib/libc++abi.so symlink (or linker script, both work) in the libc++abi1-9 Bionic (18.04.4) package. Without it clang++-9 is unable to load libc++abi. What's the best way to poke that package's maintainer ?
[01:01] <drfeelgooduj> hi
[01:02] <drfeelgooduj> How do I disable ipv6 without editing grub?
[01:05] <mesaboogie> drfeelgooduj: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-disable-ipv6-on-linux/
[01:05] <mesaboogie> sysctl drfeelgooduj
[01:07] <drfeelgooduj> is this sysctl temporary fix due to systemd bad design?
[01:07] <pavlos> drfeelgooduj: after changes, reload ... sudo sysctl -p
[01:07] <drfeelgooduj> thanks
[01:08] <drfeelgooduj> i hate systemd so much
[01:16] <AlexMax> Hi there.  I've just had my 20.04 system freeze up completely.  I was playing D&D on roll20 with discord open and suddenly my system became juddery and sound stuttered until everything came to a hard freeze.  I do not think it's a hardware issue because before Ubuntu I was running fedora and have never had a freeze with it that I can recall, and also no Windows issues either.
[01:17] <AlexMax> I checked journalctl for the last boot, along with syslog, nothing interesting.
[01:18] <AlexMax> Actually there was one interesting line: May  6 20:55:40 alexmax-MS-7C02 /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[7047]: (EE) client bug: timer event3 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-6ms), your system is too slow
[01:18] <AlexMax> that line appears nowhere else in syslog and that happened a few moments before the freeze
[01:20] <kenperkins> ok, so I fixed being able to dual boot into 19.10 and 20.04, and got my nvme recognized as uefi by giving it a uefi boot partition, but I noticed that although my nvme device is mounted as /boot, when i fdisk -l, the efi partition on my sata drive is the * boot partition of record
[01:20] <kenperkins> how do I change that to boot off the nvme boot partition?
[01:22] <AlexMax> https://paste.ee/p/7zi1e
[01:35] <DarwinElf> is linux module pcspkr not built by default now? (and why?) ... since it seems not to be loaded, I need to compile it.  I downloaded the linux source code packages, but there doesn't really even seem to be most the source code in them (when I looked at everything with 'ls -R')...
[01:37] <DarwinElf> (i.e, if all the source code was in that, the 'ls -R' would've gone on maybe over 100 pages, mostly .c files... saw a lot of architecture/driver directories/folders but no actual code files... what sort of so-called source code package is this?!)
[01:37] <DarwinElf> ok, it should've been 'ls -lR' but 'find . -iname pcspkr*' didn't show anything either...
[01:37] <semitones> Is that for the Mobo speaker
[01:38] <semitones> That commander Keen uses maybe
[01:39] <DarwinElf> the speaker inside desktop PC case plugs into the system-/logic-/main-/mother-board, so sort of.  They used to be attached to the inside of a case; now they usually just hang off the system-board...
[01:41] <DarwinElf> apparently it was build (I loaded it) just not automatically loaded for some reason... isn't there going to be some option to define your PC as desktop (rather than laptop) so that'll load automatically, and in GUIs it doesn't say network 'airplane mode?'  The absurdity of the portable PC agenda (laptops, pads/phones, watches) has gone too far...
[01:41] <DarwinElf> 'built'
[01:46] <Shmam> Just installed 20.04 but my displayport monitor isnt getting picked up by xrandr (display says no signal). It works fine with the hdmi on the same gpu (nvidia 1070) but just not over dp. Any suggestions or maybe something I need to enable?
[02:01] <Shmam> anyone here?
[02:03] <diamondbond> hi Shmam
[02:04] <Shmam> Hey! any ideas on my displayport issue?
[02:04] <Shmam> Im really stumped on this one
[02:05] <Shmam> can I just manually turn on a DP output with xrandr?
[02:05] <Shmam> even tho it says disconnected
[02:05] <diamondbond> i dont think so
[02:05] <diamondbond> xrandr should report DisplayPort-* connected if it is indeed connected
[02:05] <Shmam> ok so I first need to get xrandr to detect the monitor I guess
[02:05] <diamondbond> if not then its most likely a hardware issue / DP connector not properly plugged in
[02:06] <diamondbond> yup
[02:06] <Shmam> I just tried with a brand new cable and different port on the gpu
[02:06] <diamondbond> make sure you reboot ubuntu as well
[02:06] <Shmam> yeah I connected everything (including extra hdmi monitor to internal gpu) and then rebooted my system
[02:07] <Shmam> lemme go see if I have another device somewhere with a dp out so I can test the monitor. It works with hdmi input tho so I think its unlikely to be the issue
[02:08] <diamondbond> hmmm this issue sounds peculiar and mostly hw related, DP is quite finicky at times ://
[02:37] <diamondbond> https://imgur.com/HAt8AZx.png
[02:37] <diamondbond> im on ubuntu 20.04 and gzdoom wont work ;-; i even compiled & installed libfluidsynth1 manually as it isnt available in 20.04 repos yet
[02:37] <diamondbond> anyone know how to workaround this issue?
[02:39] <leftyfb> diamondbond: how did you install gzdoom?
[02:39] <diamondbond> sudo apt install -f ./gzdoom.deb
[02:39] <leftyfb> remove it and install the snap
[02:40] <diamondbond> i really prefer to stay away from snaps
[02:40] <diamondbond> is there no way to get the deb working? it was working fine on 18.04
[02:40] <leftyfb> diamondbond: you'll have to contact the developer for support
[02:41] <diamondbond> aight, thanks
[02:54] <DarwinElf> 'modprobe: FATAL: Module pcskpr not found in directory /lib/modules/5.4.0-28-lowlatency'... and they call this a serious kernel?
[02:56] <DarwinElf> hopefully it's back in 5.4.0-29 (getting now from archive.ubuntu.com)... can only have been a mistake right: you don't remove standard things for workstation/server users?
[02:57] <bn_work> Is anyone aware of a FOSS web app to openssl (preferably bundled with a newer version) that would allow one to run as a CA to allow users to self-request a CSR, and for an admin to sign a cert, revoke a cert, etc.? (similar to MS's Certificate Services role & web app?)  I currently do all this by SSH-ing into the CA box and doing the various operations via CLI but I have a feeling most users may not be as comfortable
[02:57] <bn_work> with that...
[03:12] <james_castrello> hello
[03:15] <pavlos> DarwinElf: /usr/lib/modules/5.4.0-28-generic/kernel/drivers/input/misc/pcspkr.ko
[03:16] <DarwinElf> well, I didn't give modprobe the path and don't know why it didn't also look there...
[03:16] <Ascavasaion> What is the normal everyday US keyboard called in Linux please?
[03:17] <caseyd> I have a program that runs when you type 'make simple', I'm trying to make it a systemd service. I put it into a .sh file and set this in the systemd file ExecStart=/bin/bash /etc/ndscheduler/start.sh but im getting the error, bash[31822]: make: *** No rule to make target 'simple'.  Stop.
[03:17] <DarwinElf> i don't have a /usr/lib/modules; only /lib/modules...
[03:17] <pavlos> DarwinElf: this is my fresh 20.04 install
[03:18] <DarwinElf> it's called something like a standard 104-key (or if you're older, 101-key) keyboard (it's also normal to have 103, I think)
[03:19] <DarwinElf> the problem was I made a type... but it is here actually in /lib, not /usr/lib... 20.04 (but I have Kubuntu variant...)
[03:19] <DarwinElf> 'typo'
[03:19] <Ascavasaion> DarwinElf: us-dvorak-classic possibly?
[03:20] <DarwinElf> no.  Dvorak is rearranged alphabetically or something (in order) while the normal one is out-of-order, a.k.a. QWERTY (top left letter keys)
[03:20] <Ascavasaion> DarwinElf: Oops hehe
[03:20] <DarwinElf> i have Generic 101-key PC but it's rare now... it should autodetect (like it might've for me)
[03:20] <DarwinElf> Generic 104-key PC (or 105, you'd have to look at)
[03:21] <DarwinElf> so it wasn't 104 & 103 were normal now but 104 & 105
[03:21] <DarwinElf> it's usually 104 unless you know you have an extra key somewhere...
[03:29] <pavlos> DarwinElf: ubuntu mate has the modules in /lib/modules/ but basic ubuntu has them in /usr/lib/modules/ ... no idea why
[03:30] <BUSY> where does stderr go from a cron task?  must this be directed?
[03:31] <DarwinElf> Lol, pavlos.  I wish things were more consistent like in the POSIX standards and Unix philosophy... of course, the bigger influence is Windows-inspired & MacOS-inspired systemd
[03:32] <pavlos> BUSY: either send it stdout or log it to some file
[03:33] <BUSY> where would stdout be? any active shell?
[03:35] <pavlos> BUSY: cron usually runs under /bin/sh, there is no active shell hence we log stdout/stderr to file
[03:42] <BUSY> are using &> style redirects fairly common in bash use?
[03:47] <DarwinElf> they are, and also for crontabs
[03:47] <pavlos> BUSY: I think &> does not work in sh, use bash
[03:47] <sixecho> X Æ A-12
[03:48] <pavlos> Musk's son
[03:48] <sixecho> ^ winner
[03:50] <sixecho> pavlos: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/k75e3jsdy1slatk/xaea12ipad.jpg   🤔
[04:26] <johnfg> hi folks
[04:27] <johnfg> I'm able to access a windows system at the church, with remmina, using vnc to the vpn, a 10.8.0<whatever>.
[04:28] <bt40> Startup disk creator is not detecting debian live iso image. all other ubuntu images are detected. Please guide.
[04:28] <johnfg> This system at home, ubuntu is 10.8.0.<whatever>.  Is smb, or using cifs (not sure if they're same thing with different names) able to map a share with the vpn address?
[05:40] <bray90820> So I am having a strange issue "bash: /root/mounted.txt: No such file or directory" even though the file exists and I can read it just fine
[05:40] <bray90820> It's in a script I created if anyone wants that here it is https://pastebin.com/raw/tev0qUBP
[05:45] <emma> how can you recursively set the permissions for all directories to drwxr-xr-x  and for all files to -rw-rw-r-- ?
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | emma
[06:45] <rootcicada> Hey all. I’m running into an issue dual booting Win10 with Ubuntu 18.04.3 Desktop where my computer will restart randomly during boot from live cd option. I have verified that the iso is valid and I can install on other workstations using the same live cd in UEFI mode. Secure boot is disabled, Fast Startup is disabled, CSM is enabled and the UEFI
[06:45] <rootcicada> is attempted first. I use Nvidia drivers so I’m booting with ‘nomodeset’ flags. I’ve also flashed my bios to the newest version and ensured all of my drivers are updated. Also not seeing any hardware related issues being reported on my Windows installation. I’m also experiencing this problem on other Debian flavors and arch based as well
[06:45] <rootcicada> so it doesn’t appear to be an issue fully with ubuntu. The only way that I’m able to get into the Ubunutu live environment is by using all of these flags together: “noapic noapm nodma nomce nolapic nomodeset nosmp nosplash acpi=off” but its too unstable and will lockup about 45 seconds into the OS. Since I cannot stay in the live
[06:45] <rootcicada> environment long enough to pull any logs, I’m not too sure how to go about fixing this. Any ideas?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> rootcicada: update system to latest first
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | rootcicada
[07:26] <Karthyz> Hello there :)
[07:31] <pavelthebest> Hello! Is there any way that package vim-ale, providing ALE plugin for vim (alike vim-syntastic), will be accepted into official repo?
[07:31] <rootcicada> lotuspsychje thanks for the response. How would I go about updating if I'm unable to boot? The only prompt I'm able to reach is the grub prompt. I'm relatively new to linux
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> rootcicada: oh you still testing on a liveusb?
[07:32] <rootcicada> and when I am able to get into the live environment it will only stay alive for about 45 seconds before it crashes
[07:32] <rootcicada> correct
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> rootcicada: open a terminal and journalctl - and see what kind of errors you getting on your live
[07:35] <rootcicada> lotuspsychje I will try this an update. Thanks for the direction!
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> rootcicada: what kind of brand/model are you trying to install on?
[07:40] <rootcicada> I'm using an Asus ROG STRIX Z270E Gaming mobo running BIOS version 1302 and an i7 7700k CPU.
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> rootcicada: a big nvidia RTX card inside?
[07:43] <rootcicada> lotuspsychje: 2 1080 sli bridged. I'm also using the boot flag for 'nomodeset' and have tested with both gpus uninstalled in case it was an nvidia driver issue
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> rootcicada: i think your system would benefit a higher kernel, you might wanna test 20.04
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> rootcicada: also gtx and rtx cards will need the highest drivers possible, you might need to enter system with !nomodeset first
[07:48] <rootcicada> I actually started with 20.04 and it had the same issue. I'm doing most of my testing on 18 though. I'm looking into journalctl now
[08:11] <bt40> I heave read that ubuntu is shifting away from GTK. In touch, it has already done by implementing qt. In desktop, it also true?
[08:58] <emdub> anyone having issues with 20.04 desktop hanging on boot?  my boot.log is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7D5CCW9sVC/ says "A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes up"
[08:58] <emdub> i am able to ssh in, but get the little spinny icon and the ubuntu logo on the monitor
[09:02] <emdub> ah, looks like this might be it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/g6ybsd/ubuntu_2004_lts_unable_to_boot_due_to_a_start_job/
[09:03] <neure> hi
[09:04] <neure> why does `pkg-config --modversion freetype2` give me `23.1.17` ?
[09:04] <neure> That does not look like a freetype version to me, at all
[09:04] <neure> meanwhile `apt-cache show libfreetype6-dev` says `Version: 2.10.1-2` which looks much better
[09:20] <diverdude> What is newest version of cmake on ubuntu repos?
[09:22] <neure> 20.04 here, seems to have 3.16.3
[09:22] <neure> not necessarily exactly what you asked, but at least a start
[09:23] <diverdude> i am on 18.04
[09:24] <diverdude> is there an easy way to upgrade 18.04 to 20.04 or do i have to reinstall from scratch
[09:24] <diverdude> and are there any risks in doing an upgrade instead of a reinstall
[09:25] <EriC^^> !info cmake bionic
[09:27] <genhaoqi> magic order
[09:28] <genhaoqi> !info magic
[09:31] <jdaviescoates> I've got some worrisome hard drive issues and I'm trying to work out if it's a hardware problem or a problem with Ubuntu 20.04
[09:31] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: what seems to be the issue
[09:34] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ when I try to shut down it never finishes
[09:34] <jdaviescoates> and then if I hard power off it wont boot up again
[09:35] <jdaviescoates> then I use the live usb to run Disks
[09:35] <jdaviescoates> and there is also an issue with a vfat partition
[09:35] <jdaviescoates> first repair never works, second repair always does
[09:35] <jdaviescoates> and then it boots again
[09:36] <EriC^^> aha
[09:36] <diverdude> is there an easy way to upgrade 18.04 to 20.04 or do i have to reinstall from scratch? and are there any risks in doing an upgrade instead of a reinstall?
[09:36] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: did you try pressing esc when you shut it off to see where its hanging or any messages?
[09:37] <genhaoqi> when it stop you may see something *error*
[09:38] <genhaoqi> or *failed*
[09:38] <DJones> !ltsupgrade | diverdude
[09:38] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: also you could try to run a smart test on the hdd to see its condition
[09:38]  * jdaviescoates doesn't really even understand why that partition even exists.  I installed fresh Ubuntu 20.04 on brand new Samsung 860 EVO 1TB drive and asked it to use the whole thing, so why does this W95 FAT32 partition even exist? https://files.uniteddiversity.coop/IMG_20200507_101912.jpg
[09:38] <diverdude> DJones: i will wait
[09:38] <rustyrocket> I'm starting to run into a bit of a loss here. What is the easiest way to simply run a program with CPU use throttled below some %?  There's cgroups, systemd-run, and cpulimit, but none of them seem "normal". Cgroups involves... a lot of setup and configuraiton. systemd-run also requires a lot of setup, and I know next to nothing about the whole systemd ecosystem, and cpulimit messes up STDOUT and STDERR.
[09:39] <diverdude> DJones: but what is newest version of cmake in 18.04 repos?
[09:39] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ I haven't tried pressing esc, shall do so new time it happens. I *think* it might happen every time I try to shut down. Need to do more testing
[09:40] <EriC^^> rustyrocket: how does cpulimit mess stdout and stderr? are you running it from another terminal or same terminal?
[09:40] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: you might be able to find info in old syslog's
[09:40] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: also 'sudo apt-get install smartmontools' installs the smart test, then sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX (replacing X) runs the test
[09:40] <diverdude> What is newest version of cmake in 18.04 repos?
[09:41] <EriC^^> diverdude: 3.10.2
[09:41] <DJones> !info cmake bionic
[09:41] <diverdude> EriC^^: dang :( How do i then get 3.13 or higher installed without messing up the system?
[09:42] <rustyrocket> EriC^^: the cpulimit injects messages into STDOUT
[09:43] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ ok thanks
[09:44] <EriC^^> rustyrocket: can you show an example?
[09:44] <rustyrocket> e.g. cpulimit -l 20 -- echo "message" >STDOUT
[09:44] <rustyrocket> STDOUT file becomes message\nProcess 9702 detected
[09:45] <rustyrocket> Similarly above produces a STDERR of "Process 9710 dead!" instead of empty
[09:46] <EriC^^> rustyrocket: you could do, /myprogram , then in another terminal run "cpulimit -p <pid here> -l 20
[09:46] <rustyrocket> EriC^^: It's the part about "then in another terminal" that makes this annoying for me. I'd like to just put this all into a simple script that handles a bunch of other stuff for me.
[09:47] <rustyrocket> Right now I have launcher script for my program that does stuff like renicing 19 -l $$ ionice -c 3 -p $$, followed by a bunch of bookkeeping
[09:48] <rustyrocket> I tried throwing something in there like cpulimit -l 20 -p $$ -m, but then cpulimit limits itself (as it's also a child of that process), and then the first time cpulimit pauses itself, it never resumes.
[09:50] <EriC^^> rustyrocket: i think you could do this, "/myprogram >/stdout 2>&1 & mypid=$!; cpulimit -p $mypid -l 20
[09:51] <rustyrocket> EriC^^: I also tried that, but then I can no longer send ctrl+c to myprogram (which is currently how I typically kill it when/if I need to)
[09:52] <diverdude> How do i then get 3.13 or higher installed on ubuntu 18.04 without messing up the system?
[09:52] <EriC^^> rustyrocket: maybe you could background cpulimit as well in that command, and later foreground the program afterthat
[09:53] <Gwalenn> Hello, I made a fresh install of XUBUNTU Focal Fossa on my desktop. I have this msg at boot : 0.4375251 Initramfs unpacking failed: Decodintg failed
[09:53] <rustyrocket> I tried that as well. Something broke and I don't remember what.
[09:54] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ smart test didn't find any issues. Now running extensive SMART Data & Self-Tests via 3 little dots top right in Disks app. The short test didn't find anything. Extensive test seems possibly stuck on 90% remaining...
[09:54] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: no bad sectors in smart test? pending sectors etc?
[09:55] <EriC^^> the overall "healthy" status they put isnt that useful unless the hdd is already dead almost
[09:55] <EriC^^> !paste jdaviescoates
[09:55] <EriC^^> !paste | jdaviescoates
[09:56] <gst568923> Hi guys, I have installed xubuntu 20.04 live usb persistent with packages upgraded and linux-firmware v1.187 and I have this problems: LVDS not recognized, LCD screen black, freeze display server when desktop environment is loading | https://pastebin.com/P21xzLKN
[09:57] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YYJ2BknShd/
[09:57] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ all those Smart test appeared to take almost zero time at all so hard to believe they actually tested anything!
[09:57] <coconut> diverdude, ltsupgrades from 18.04 to 20.04 are supported once 20.04.1 is released, which will come in 1-3 months from 20.04 release.
[09:58] <jdaviescoates> > Extensive test seems possibly stuck on 90% remaining...
[09:58] <jdaviescoates> Now at 80% remaining... (so not stuck)
[09:59] <GuestFriend> i got an error when i try to bulk purge some packages
[09:59] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: it all looks good, yeah the test doesnt really test anything, the smart system has those info there that the hdd records itself and it accesses the data, there are no bad sectors that the hdd had to reallocate, also you dont need to do sda1,2,3.. just 'sda' is fine
[09:59] <GuestFriend> it says that libwebkit2gtkp-4.0.-37 depends on libenchant-2-2 and it isn't going to be installed
[10:00] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ so possible a software issue?
[10:00] <GuestFriend> but libenchant is installed indeed
[10:00] <GuestFriend> do anyone have any suggestions why is it happening?
[10:01] <GuestFriend> ubuntu focal, minimal installation
[10:01] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: yeah, i think what might be happening is that some issue on shutdown is happening, and when you hard reset it, since the fat32 is mounted (efi partition) it's getting a filesystem error since its not unmounted correctly, and it's the bootloader partition so you end up not being able to boot after that til you run a filesystem check on it
[10:02] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: when the issue happens in the future before you fix it, you can try to shutdown 'semi-cleanly' by using this method
[10:02] <EriC^^> !reisub
[10:02] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: that way if the kernel is still responsive it can 'sync' the filesystems, unmount them, then 'b' reboots
[10:03] <EriC^^> so less damage to the filesystems or data loss
[10:03] <coconut> diverdude, you can only compile it into your system... but there is no support for that. And with adding ppa's you have to be very careful what you are doing.(i don't know whether there are any ppa's for cmake).
[10:03] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ OK thanks I'll try that.  BTW, no idea if related, but after doing a clean install I copied over all my old files (including hidden files) from my backup of 18.04... I noted Firefox then got a bit confused (so I deleted relevant folders, uninstalled, reinstalled Firefox and that resolved that issue)... I wonder if some old hidden files
[10:03] <jdaviescoates> confusing other stuff too?
[10:06] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ does one hold down shift when typing s, u and b (so that they are S, U and B) or does it not matter?
[10:06] <diverdude> coconut: thats my worry. if i compile it into the system it potentially messes the whole thing up!
[10:07] <coconut> yeah you have to memorize what you have done, either by mind or by logs
[10:08] <GuestFriend> I got an error when I try to bulk purge some packages: it says that libwebkit2gtkp-4.0.-37 depends on libenchant-2-2 and it isn't going to be installed. But libenchant is installed indeed. I'm using Ubuntu Focal minimal installation. Does anyone have any suggestions why is it happening?
[10:08] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ also, I note that SysRq is in blue on PrtSc button , so it is actually Alt+PrintScreen or Fn+PrtSc?
[10:09] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ ok, actually reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key now ;)
[10:12] <GuestFriend> Please help
[10:12] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ so if I've got it correct, I think on my machine I may have to press Alt+Fn+PrtSc
[10:22] <Gwalenn> hello, i get a Initramfs decoging failed at startup
[10:34] <thermoman> running debootstrap for focal results in error "dependency problems prevent configuration of ubuntu-minimal:" and "ubuntu-minimal depends on lsb-release; however:" and "Package lsb-release is not installed.". any ideas how to solve this?
[10:35] <thermoman> installed is debootstrap-1.0.118ubuntu1.1
[10:37] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: sorry way away, yes you dont need to press shift with s
[10:37] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: when you say you copied your old files you mean your home dir?
[10:43] <gst568923> ?
[10:45] <ColinB> Hi, looking to get to the bottom of a remote X server authorisation change between 18.04 / 18.10 / 19.04 and 20.04. Have a headless server and a desktop client, both running XUbuntu 20.04, on a local network. Log into server from desktop using 'ssh -X server'. Can then open graphical applications on server which display on desktop OK as normal user. However, on server, trying to 'sudo' a graphical application fails:
[10:46] <ColinB> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[10:46] <ColinB> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[10:46] <ColinB> This used to work OK - eg I could 'sudo update-manager' on the server and it'd work fine! Can't do that now.... Any ideas what's changed and how to change it?
[10:50] <Shillos> did you try sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y ?
[10:50] <Shillos> when you can't do it on one way there always an alternative way
[10:55] <diverdude> what is that tool called which can safely install binaries instead of doing make install?
[10:58] <diverdude> ahh checkinstall
[10:58] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ yes my home dir
[10:58] <jdaviescoates> @Eric^^ yes my home dir
[11:00] <conjo> hi all-If looking for the full path of a usb or external hdd/sdd what is the best command(preinstalled)to get that info? Im currently using fdisk -l and lsblk. those two commands help me work out what sdx i want to access but cd into the full path i dont know how to check in terminal-is there a way to do that and get a list of sda:b:c:d:etc with a full path attached? thank you in advance
[11:05] <conjo> pretty sure i just found the answer-can someone confirm please. udisk2 mounts to /run/media/username/sdx(x) and other places in older udisks include /media/username/sdx(x)
[11:08] <conjo> first one works for me any ways if anyone needs to know
[11:08] <conjo> laters
[11:34] <bitblit> I started using netdata recently and am getting alerts about "netdev budget ran outs", sometimes in the thousands for the last 10 minutes. I tried gradually increasing net.core.netdev_budget from 300 to 1200, but no change..
[11:42] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ yes my home dir
[11:43] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: you could try adding a separate user and test from there if you wanted
[11:45] <cigg> hello-need suggestions on compression;have friends wedding video clips and jpegs to compress and backup-what would you recomend i use to get a mix of compression and quality
[11:46] <cigg> still have two other 1:1 backups so doesn
[11:46] <cigg> need to be perfect
[11:48] <Industrial> Hi. When I log out in 19.10 my tmux process is ended.
[11:48] <Industrial> What's the setting I need to set in which config file to make it keep the processes?
[11:50] <cigg> id start googling dude pretty sure e1 is asleep
[11:50] <cigg> =)
[11:51] <Industrial> I have `KillUserProcesses=no` in `/etc/systemd/logind.conf`.
[11:52] <Industrial> Hmm, it seems to work now.
[11:52] <Industrial> It didn't before. Weird.
[11:53] <cigg> maybe archwiki will be helpful? has heaps of info
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:11] <sruli> hello ;-)
[12:18] <Karthyz> Hello, wondering if someone can help me out real quick
[12:18] <Karthyz> having some trouble with audio, I'm getting audio come through my headset but it won't pick up my mic (I'm using a splitter)
[12:19] <sruli> splitter? you are connecting the speaker and the mic to the line out?
[12:19] <Karthyz> huh?
[12:19] <Karthyz> Confused, everything is hooked up properly
[12:20] <sruli> what / how are you using the splitter
[12:20] <Karthyz> line in/out
[12:20] <sruli> where is the splitter?
[12:20] <Karthyz> Rear
[12:21] <sruli> u got a cable from ur mic going to line in and a cable from ur speakers going to ur line out?
[12:21] <Karthyz> headset into splitter > Splitter into line in/out on rear
[12:22] <sruli> i guess thats the problem, is the splitter specifiaclly for splitting line in / line out or is it a splitter for 2 line out's?
[12:23] <Karthyz> line in and out
[12:23] <Karthyz> Headset innit, got mic and audio output :P
[12:23] <sruli> great
[12:23] <Karthyz> Any idea what to do? Because I'm clueless
[12:24] <sruli> misunderstood ur last message
[12:25] <sruli> is the splitter specifically for splitting line in / line out or is it a splitter for 2 line out's? can u post a picture of your splitter to https://onpaste.com/ and paste link here
[12:25] <cigg> i spoke to my isp they asked if id tried turning my modem off, I replied is there a way to get Internet and turn you off...not so awkward silence
[12:26] <sruli> ;-)
[12:28] <e^1> for configuring network in ubuntu server, which file to edit 50-cloud-init.yaml or 01-netcfg.yaml ?
[12:30] <sruli> e^1: you have both? i just checked a few of my servers and i only have either or, none have both
[12:32] <e^1> sruli: I have 50-cloud-init.yaml file, but when i googled it was showing to create 01-netcfg.yaml file and configure it
[12:32] <e^1> so got confused, which is the correct way to do
[12:33] <sruli> i dont think it makes a difference
[12:34] <e^1> sruli: may be developers might be thinking of a workflow or something, how to do it correctly..
[12:34] <sruli> thats if you only have 1 file it doesn't make a difference
[12:34] <e^1> sruli: you have that file under /etc/netplan ?
[12:36] <sruli> just checked the difference between a few of my servers, it seems that bare-metal installs get the 01-netcfg.yaml and vm's get the 50-cloud-init.yaml by default
[12:36] <raub> In /etc/hosts how does the 127.0.1.1 entry work if you setup static IP?
[12:37] <e^1> sruli: that's interesting
[12:37] <e^1> that files are under /etc/netplan ?
[12:37] <sruli> raub: localhost ip is makes no difference if you use static or dynamic ip,
[12:37] <sruli> e^1: correct, these files are in /etc/netplan from install
[12:38] <Rumen> hi there
[12:38] <Rumen> I have a question
[12:38] <e^1> sruli: strange thing i don't have either of them in that location
[12:38] <raub> sruli: I thought localhost was 127.0.0.1
[12:39] <sruli> raub: yes, it is and will be regardless if your nic has a static or dynamic ip
[12:39] <sruli> e^1: what do u have?
[12:39] <Rumen> I used to work with GwenView for simple image operations like resize and crop, but last ver. of GwenView crash when I try to save PNG says "Unknown error"  and nothing else
[12:39] <sruli> Rumen: !question
[12:39] <Rumen> So I think about any alternative
[12:39] <sruli> dont ask to ask a question, just ask
[12:40] <Rumen> But I couldn't find in Software center
[12:40] <Rumen> any idea?
[12:40] <raub> sruli: so what about 127.0.1.1 then?
[12:40] <sruli> Rumen: there are countless image manipulation programs google can help u
[12:40] <e^1> sruli: I have 00-installer-config.yaml file
[12:41] <sruli> e^1: baremetal or vm install?
[12:41] <e^1> sruli: vm install
[12:41] <sruli> raub: whats ur issue with the localhost ip? is there any reason you need to touch it?
[12:41] <sruli> e^1: which hypervisor?
[12:42] <raub> sruli: I am asking about 127.0.1.1, not 127.0.0.1
[12:43] <e^1> sruli: vbox
[12:43] <Ben64> raub: 127.* is localhost
[12:44] <sruli> raub: ^ and do you have any issues that you need to be touching it in the first place
[12:44] <raub> 127.0.1.1 is a Debian creation
[12:44] <Ben64> ...no
[12:44] <raub> sruli: What about session 10.4 in http://qref.sourceforge.net/quick/ch-gateway.en.html?
[12:45] <sruli> e^1: i dont have vbox but maybe with that hypervisor it creates that file, i am guessing the file that gets created on install dpends on the nic type.. i am guessing here, i dont really have a clue
[12:47] <sruli> raub: classic XY problem https://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
[12:47] <raub> Ben64 sruli: session 10.4 in http://qref.sourceforge.net/quick/ch-gateway.en.html specifically state "If your system has a permanent IP address then use that; otherwise use the address 127.0.1.1." Is it wrong?
[12:47] <raub> s/state/states
[12:48] <Ben64> is your hostname resolvable to that ip though
[12:49] <sruli> raub: i cant get dragged into an X-Y problem, do you have a issue with your connectivity? if yes, what is the issue? are you trying to achieve something? if yes what exactly are yuo trying to achieve?
[12:53] <raub> sruli: thank you for your time; I will stop wasting it
[12:53] <sruli> raub: happy to help if i understand the issue
[13:05] <e^1> sruli: i guess netplan is the correct way to edit those files
[13:07] <e^1> now somehow they are getting multiple ip-address instead of single one
[13:15] <sruli> e^1: netplan to edit the files? i edit in nano, not sure what u mean, what do you mean getting multiple ip's? paste contents of yaml file and of ifconfig to https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:23] <sruli> i need to run a script each time i add / change an ip table rule, are there any hook for this? any wy to do it?
[13:25] <tatertots> after you change rule...just run script
[13:26] <sruli> tatertots: lolz, i problem is i need to run it without any delay and if i forget for 30 seconds i am in for some big trouble
[13:28] <tatertots> there could be some magnificent omipresent tool out there that can know when you arbitrarily do something and then run a script, but i havne't seen any such tool
[13:29] <sruli> i am asking if htere is some hook in iptables
[13:31] <tatertots> if there is i'm sure it'd have to be documented in the documentation or manual
[13:32] <doug16k> sruli, you can make it write something to the iptables log
[13:32] <doug16k> user mode can watch that and do something on match
[13:34] <sruli> doug16k: sound interesting, you mean i should add to rsyslog to watch for "iptables -A" and watch the log file?
[13:35] <e^1> sruli: i mean to say, editing the network configuration via 01-netcfg file
[13:37] <sruli> e^1: you mean netplan file? when netplan is in use and u want to update the config, yes you must update that file, be carefull the file is very sensitive to indentation check netplan.io for examples
[13:37] <doug16k> sruli, something like this https://serverfault.com/a/752733/127343 then ya, make something (script?) sit there and wait for a line to appear in there
[13:37] <doug16k> and do your thing
[13:39] <sruli> doug16k: that will log all traffic matching that rule (i already use such rules) its not what i want in this case, in my case now i need to log / exec script when i actually add / change a rule
[13:39] <doug16k> oh
[13:39] <doug16k> thought you wanted certain traffic to trigger something to be run
[13:39] <e^1> this is my config https://bpaste.net/UYRA
[13:39] <sruli> doug16k: quation is if there is a way to log the actual execution of "iptables -A INPUT -s 192.0.2.0/24" so i can act on that
[13:40] <e^1> my network interface gets  multipe ip assigned; enp0s3: 192.168.2.201 and enp0s3: 192.168.2.244
[13:40] <e^1> i have no idea from where it is picking up 192.168.2.244 ip
[13:41] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ I've spent last few hours debugging trying to work out what's going on and I think it's something to do with my DVD drive but if I take the drive out the issue goes away
[13:41] <jdaviescoates> s/but/because
[13:43] <doug16k> sruli, you could make a little bash function called iptables that does a thing and then actually runs iptables
[13:43] <doug16k> with "$@"
[13:43] <doug16k> put it in ~/.bash_aliases or whatever
[13:44] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ I don't use the DVD drive much, but would obviously like to be able to use it sometimes (hence why I got a machine that has one). How/ where best to submit an issue somewhere in the hope whatever the problem is gets solved?
[13:44] <sruli> doug16k: yes that was my first though, problem is i will forget to use the wrapper 99.99% of the time
[13:44] <doug16k> how can you forget
[13:44] <doug16k> it runs that automagically on logon
[13:45] <sruli> doug16k: oh u are saying i should put it in bashrc, now why did i not think of that
[13:45] <doug16k> you type iptables ....whatever and it runs the function
[13:45] <doug16k> then the function runs $(which iptables)
[13:46] <doug16k> or hardcode /usr/bin/iptables if you are into that :)
[13:47] <sruli> doug16k: the good thing of that also is that it will only execute when i manually run the command, if its scripted it wont use the bashrc file, am i correct?
[13:48] <doug16k> sruli, correct
[13:48] <e^1> sruli: figured that out
[13:49] <sruli> doug16k: many thanks
[13:49] <e^1> i had written extra line of dhcp4: yes
[13:49] <sruli> e^1: sorry was busy with my own stuff.. if you are using dhcp why are you putting in the addresses and gateway?
[13:51] <sruli> e^1: and if you are not using dhcp still put the line "dhcp4: no"
[13:51] <sruli> e^1: are you using dhcp to get an ip?
[13:51] <e^1> sruli: removed that line, after that getting the static ip that i set
[13:53] <sruli> e^1: great, look at the second example here for the proper syntax https://netplan.io/examples
[13:56] <doug16k> oops, actually /sbin/iptables. forgot you need fiery eyes
[13:59] <e^1> sruli: thanks :) that was helpful
[14:06] <t0ken> any systemd pro's around?   I'm trying to setup a templates/instanced service but keep getting error when trying to start it that the service file isn't found but shows up in ""list-unit-files"" although the state is ""bad"".   I can't sort out what's incorrect.
[14:06] <t0ken> https://hastebin.com/uporutuluv
[14:07] <t0ken> https://hastebin.com/xacuwifava
[14:13] <xtuh> hi i found https://linuxconfig.org/remote-desktop-sharing-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa,  till step3 there is a "server" settings. where can i see the config file for that? my issue that i cant connect from windows (using uvnc).
[14:13] <Slartibart> It seems I can't export files from within my IDE to a folder in my local filesystem. (Basic owner/rwx permissions look ok) The export did work after removing the files in the target folder though, i.e it seems to be about permissions for overwriting existing files. Are there any good logs for this? Ubuntu 20.04
[14:14] <xtuh> i hope config let me more options to tune.
[14:14] <xtuh> mc
[14:14] <xtuh> oops wrong window
[14:15] <thermoman> w
[14:38] <jdaviescoates> EriC^^ just fyi I filed a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1877388
[14:45] <EriC^^> jdaviescoates: ah thanks
[14:54] <luna_> Any Ubuntu translators meeting today in 7 minutes?
[14:55] <leftyfb> luna_: wrong channel
[14:56] <pavlos> t0ken: can you make line 15 from the first paste a hard link ?
[14:56] <t0ken> pavlos that will likely resolve.  I copied the file into the dir instead of making a link and everything started working
[14:57] <pavlos> t0ken: k
[14:57] <t0ken> I can't find anything stating this is a requirement and not really gonna chase it down, it's working so ...
[14:58] <t0ken> thanks for following up, appreciate it
[14:59] <luna_> leftyfb: sorry sent an email to the right people
[15:01] <codedmart> I just installed ubuntu 20.04 on my Lenovo P1 gen 2. It has a Intel Corp Wifi 6 AX200, and it continually drops the connection. I would say every few mins until I turn off wifi then turn it back on.
[15:06] <Deihmos> Doesn't apprentices eliminate spaces in folder names like this "/mnt/Medialibrary/Recorded TV/"
[15:10] <gorby> Hello, Im trying to remove some snap applications from Apparmour (FFmpeg) but get this when I try, any thoughts? sudo apparmor_parser -C /snap/bin/ffmpeg
[15:10] <gorby> AppArmor parser error for /snap/bin/ffmpeg in /snap/bin/ffmpeg at line 1: Found unexpected character: ''
[15:11] <oerheks> "/mnt/Medialibrary/Recorded\TV/"
[15:11] <gorby> Sorry, not remove, put into complain mode.
[15:14] <gorby> Im not sure how to remove specific snap apps either, since theres only one snap file that seems to handle all snaps in apparmor.d
[15:15] <gorby> I dont wanna break them all by removeing that, but can force specific ones into complain mode either...
[15:15] <gorby> cant*
[15:20] <rs2009> Are the Community Coucil Meetings still being conducted?
[15:22] <housecat> rs2009: the community council hasn't been staffed in over six months, so i would assume not.
[15:24] <rs2009> yeah
[15:25] <rs2009> Is there any meeting conducted referring to the building of remixes?
[15:26] <housecat> No idea, would recommend asking on Discourse.
[15:26] <housecat> This channel is more for end-user technical support, and I don't know of a more relevant one on IRC so :\
[15:44] <wedr> housecat, rs2009, what's a "Community Council Meeting"?
[15:45] <housecat> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/what-is-the-ubuntu-community-council/706
[15:46] <wedr> ah, so I guess rs2009 needs to send an email to inquire about the next meeting's date then.
[15:46] <wedr> Thanks
[15:49] <RattleBattle79> why on earth have Ubuntu removed Shutter from the repos?
[15:51] <housecat> RattleBattle79: because it was imported from Debian and Debian removed it in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=904526
[15:51] <leftyfb> RattleBattle79: https://jeremy.bicha.net/2018/10/13/shutter-removed-from-debian-ubuntu/
[15:54] <RattleBattle79> thanks all
[15:54] <RattleBattle79> Yeah, I see. Tons of GTK2 dependencies...
[16:03] <Belph> I appear to have trouble using wildcard with apt on (x)Ubuntu 20.04. I tried `apt purge --auto-remove libreoffice-*` but got the error `E: Unable to locate package libreoffice-*`.
[16:06] <oerheks> try libreoffice*
[16:06] <Belph> Did, same result.
[16:08] <oerheks> sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice* # should work, or did you install some other version manually?
[16:10] <Belph> No, I only had the libreoffice packages that came pre-installed in xubuntu.
[16:10] <oerheks> odd .. is it a snap? https://snapcraft.io/libreoffice
[16:11] <peppot> hi! is anyone aware of a ppa for nvidia proprietary drivers with the latest ones? (i.e. containing fixes for DOOM Eternal)
[16:12] <Belph> I don't think so. I uninstalled them all by entering all packages instead of using the wildcard. Same command `apt purge --auto-remove` just put them all there.
[16:13] <oerheks> peppot, take a look at https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:15] <Belph> Your suggested command seems to work however, thank you. I just remembered the command how I posted working in the past, no idea what's wrong.
[16:15] <vihari> hello all, both trackpad and external mouse stop clicking, after closing the laptop lid (which is set to lock the screen)
[16:15] <vihari> possibly it is suspending eventually also?
[16:16] <vihari> okay yeah, it actually takes a while after it closes, so probably suspends
[16:22] <RattleBattle79> OK...so I just ZFS rolled back from pre Shutter installation. ZFS on root is just awesome
[16:33] <giaco> quick program to markup images with squares just like I used to do with OSX preview app? I need a quick way to highlight part of images while writing documentation. I am trying with gimp and gThumb but I don't like them for this job
[16:36] <juanrgar> giaco, I think okular could do the job
[16:36] <juanrgar> giaco, maybe also evince, but I think it is more limited
[16:38] <giaco> juanrgar: thanks
[17:06] <peppot> oerheks, the latest it has is in fact 440.64
[17:07] <peppot> oerheks, "nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 440.82+really.440.64-0ubuntu6"
[17:34] <Deihmos> oerheks: this isn't working "/mnt/Medialibrary/Recorded\TV/"
[17:35] <Deano59> why are you putting \/ ?
[17:36] <ken_q> hello
[17:38] <Deihmos> that's what oerhecks sent
[17:38] <Deano59> how can I see what's taking up space on an SSD?
[17:39] <Deihmos> i need it to recognize the space
[17:39] <Deihmos> the folder is Recorded TV
[17:39] <tazmanoo> a
[17:39] <pavlos> so there is a space before TV
[17:39] <oerheks> folders with spaces are stupid, but you can escape the space with \
[17:39] <Deihmos> correct
[17:39] <zutat> Deano59: filelight is a very nice tool for visualizing space use
[17:40] <Deano59> zutat, thanks, I'll look into it.
[17:40] <pavlos> Deihmos: then it should be "/mnt/Medialibrary/Recorded\ TV/"
[17:41] <tazmanoo> Does anyone here run a pi-hole on there server? I was also wondering if its best practice to run multiple types of services in the server with the pi-hole or is it best to only have a server do one job? Any help is greatly apprciated.
[17:41] <Deihmos> this worked "/mnt/Medialibrary/Recorded TV/"
[17:41] <oerheks> "/mnt/Medialibrary/Recorded\ TV/" without " "
[17:41] <Deihmos> oh i see
[17:42] <leftyfb> !ot | tazmanoo
[17:43] <pavlos> tazmanoo: there is #pihole
[17:43] <Deano59> tazmanoo: /join #raspberrypi,#raspbian
[17:43] <Deano59> pihole, too.
[17:44] <tazmanoo> I'm not using a pi for this. I have Unbuntu 20.04 TLS
[17:44] <tazmanoo> and was configurings this as a DNS server with Pi hole
[17:44] <leftyfb> mind you, pihole can be run on ubuntu, but this still isn't an Ubuntu support questions. It's system administration advice
[17:44] <tazmanoo> touche lefty
[17:44] <tazmanoo> i just aquired a random server and now im all excited haha
[17:45] <tazmanoo> but thanks for the direction
[17:48] <tazmanoo> \/6
[17:58] <CarloWood> Hi.. my main PC doesn't boot anymore :(. It stops at "Started Simple Desktop Display Manager."
[18:07] <CarloWood> Can someone help me investigate what is wrong?
[18:07] <CarloWood> I did an 'apt update; apt upgrade; apt purge virtualbox*'   so far...
[18:08] <leftyfb> CarloWood: what version of ubuntu?
[18:08] <CarloWood> 18.04
[18:10] <CarloWood> Still hangs at "Started Simple Desktop Manager."
[18:10] <CarloWood> Can switch to (another) VT either.
[18:10] <CarloWood> Can't
[18:11] <CarloWood> sudo systemctl disable sddm
[18:11] <CarloWood> rebooting
[18:12] <CarloWood> Ok, that gives me a prompt.
[18:13] <CarloWood> How do I (try to) start KDE now?
[18:13] <zutat> startkde
[18:17] <CarloWood> (EE) No devices detected.
[18:32] <CarloWood> k I solved that one...
[18:32] <CarloWood> I have removed a video card, that caused the PCI ID to have changed...
[18:32] <CarloWood> Now it boots into plasma, but my panels are gone :/.
[18:34] <CarloWood> You know, those things at the side of the screen... How to restore them? :/
[19:19] <CarloWood> k, fixed that too by running: sed -i -e 's/^lastScreen=.*/lastScreen=0/' ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
[19:20] <CarloWood> Apparently the screens are renumbered when you remove monitors, so that file gets screwed up.
[19:36] <CuChulaind> hello. I am running a docker container that I need to pass information from outside the host to. Port 1514 is connected from the host (ubuntu) to the container, however it doesn't appear that traffic can get into that port from other computers on the network. nmap scan shows that port as closed. How do I open said port?
[19:42] <pavlos> CuChulaind: did you pass -p 1514:1514 which allows host to communicate with container?
[19:43] <CuChulaind> pavlos, from my compose file:
[19:43] <CuChulaind> ports:
[19:43] <CuChulaind>       - 9000:9000
[19:43] <CuChulaind>       # Syslog TCP
[19:43] <CuChulaind>       - 1514:1514
[19:43] <CuChulaind> I can access port 9000 the web interface just fine, not 1514
[19:45] <CuChulaind> pavlos, doing an nmap scan from another device on the network shows the port specifically as closed where it shows 9000 as open
[19:47] <pavlos> CuChulaind: is there a service running on the container on port 1514?
[19:47] <CuChulaind> pavlos, yes, graylog
[19:47] <CuChulaind> which is supposed to be listening for incoming log files
[19:50] <pavlos> CuChulaind: I'm not familiar with graylog but this is a page I found (if it helps), https://docs.graylog.org/en/3.2/pages/installation/docker.html
[19:51] <CuChulaind> pavlos, that is what I am following, but it doesn't seem to be getting data in. I'll run tshark and see what I get
[19:51] <CuChulaind> to see if data is coming in the port or not
[19:54] <rfm> CuChulaind, one thing to check is if greylog is configured to listen on the right interfaces; many servers have a default config of just listening on loopback...
[19:55] <CuChulaind> rfm given that it is a docker container I would think it is set to listen on the interface bound to the host, but I could be wrong of course. I also bound port 9000 the web gui port and I can access it from a different machine
[19:56] <rfm> CuChulaind, running "netstat -ltn" in the container will show what's being listened to...
[19:57] <pavlos> CuChulaind: I assume there is no ufw active ...
[20:02] <CuChulaind> pavlos, there wasn't then I activated it, and allows tcp and udp traffic on said port from the subnet in question
[20:06] <pavlos> CuChulaind: and ufw was reloaded and netstat -plutn does not show 1514
[20:07] <CuChulaind> netstat shows them listening
[20:07] <CuChulaind> albeit ip6
[20:08] <CuChulaind> pavlos, ^^
[20:08] <pavlos> CuChulaind: echo "some log blah blah" | nc localhost 1514
[20:19] <pavlos> CuChulaind: you should have a udp entry on netstat ... udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:1514            0.0.0.0:*                           5657/nc
[20:21] <CuChulaind> pavlos, https://dpaste.org/N1pK
[20:24] <djenna_> hello. I have used gedit and pluma and I need a better client, one that will make links clickable. Mac has had that for (a large number of) years. What wil do that in our library?
[20:30] <bleb> emacs?
[20:51] <BeautifulBash> How do I upgrade from 18.10 server to 20.04 lts?
[20:53] <oerheks> ola, you ran out of support long time ago. use the EOLupgrade factoid, or better; reinstall fresh
[20:53] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[20:54] <oerheks> 18.10 - 19.04 EOL - 19.10 - 20.04 with the -d option
[20:57] <BeautifulBash> oerheks, Ive tried that factoid but it didnt work :(
[20:57] <BeautifulBash> when I run do-release-upgrade
[20:57] <BeautifulBash> I get this error:An upgrade from 'cosmic' to 'eoan' is not supported with this tool.
[20:59] <leftyfb> BeautifulBash: you are better off installing from scratch and reinstalling your applications/services and restoring from backup. It'll be a much quicker and cleaner install
[20:59] <oerheks> indeed, and take a look at the releasenotes
[21:00] <oerheks> hmm, maybe do-release-upgrade -d works..
[21:01] <BeautifulBash> I did try the -d thing
[21:01] <BeautifulBash> oh god cnat believe ive gotta do everything fresh oof
[21:01] <BeautifulBash> Thanks guys
[21:01] <oerheks> have fun!
[21:03] <kalib> is there any place where I can download ruby-2.6.6 for ubuntu bionic (18.04)?
[21:05] <kalib> in the ubuntu packages page I can't see it.
[21:06] <sammyg1321> Hey Guys! i hope you are all staying safe, can someone tell me why on the ubuntu app store, if i click on any category, theres no applications at all in there
[21:07] <oerheks> kalib, as 18.04 is LTS, i don't think that recent release shows up. i find no valid ppa too.
[21:07] <kalib> Yes oerheks I can only see 2.5.1..
[21:08] <oerheks> so, install /build manually if you *need* that version?
[21:08] <oerheks> 	1:2.7+1 in Focal ...
[21:08] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ruby/+packages
[21:09] <sethkush> sammyg1321: I've never seen that, but you might want to try opening a terminal and running "sudo apt update"
[21:09] <sammyg1321> @sethkush lemme get back to you one sec
[21:09] <kalib> yes, was trying to get a tar.gz file of it since I would be using puppet to install it in a few hosts.
[21:10] <sammyg1321> Changin the Server reason seems to have fixed it, so confused as of why though @sethkush
[21:11] <sethkush> sammyg1321: that is odd, glad it's fixed though
[21:11] <sammyg1321> @sethkush i was wondering, should i be using a server closer to me though
[21:11] <kalib> but thanks oerheks will try and build it myself.. ;]
[21:12] <sethkush> sammyg1321: There may be some marginal benefit to picking the closest server, but it should be fine just to have one on your continent in my experience
[21:13] <sammyg1321> @sethkush  hmmm, ok. because by default ubuntu is pushing to the US server, im in canada though but in terms of speeds or anything i dont see a difference
[21:14] <sethkush> sammyg1321: closest isn't always fastest. I think I usually use http://mirror.it.ubc.ca, it's fast and Canadian, but a USA mirror should be fine too
[21:14] <oerheks> kalib sudo snap install ruby --channel=2.6/stable --classic
[21:14] <sammyg1321> @sethkush awesome! il point to it and see if it causes the same store issue
[21:14] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/ruby
[21:15] <sammyg1321> @sethkush thanks a millon! btw my switch to ubuntu has been so seamless, i dont miss Windows one bit
[21:15] <oerheks> oh
[21:15] <sethkush> sammyg1321: I'm happy to hear that. Welcome to the community!
[21:16] <sammyg1321> @sethkush thank you so much :D its so nice to have a free OS that doesnt just stop working for stupid updates. Wish more business used it more
[21:17] <sethkush> sammyg1321: It's gained a ton of users in the past few years. I don't think it'll slow down anytime soon
[21:17] <sammyg1321> @sethkush lets hope so :D again thanks a million, il be back if it stops working
[21:17] <sammyg1321> :D
[22:16] <kenperkins_> ok, so `/boot` is what I'm using to boot correct? or can i boot from a partition that doesn't get mounted
[22:19] <tomreyn> kenperkins_: /boot usually contains grub configuration file, kernel, and initrd. you'll need to make those available to grub so that the boot can succeed.
[22:20] <tomreyn> (that's a bit imprecise but i think it's an acceptable simplification
[22:23] <tomreyn> kenperkins_: what is it you're trying to achieve, and why?
[22:28] <kenperkins> so tomreyn: I've got two devices, each with an efi partition, and it seems like neither of them are used to boot into 19.10
[22:28] <tomreyn> kenperkins: whch of my questions were you trying to answer there?
[22:29] <kenperkins> I wasn't answering your question, I was asking a question in response to your statement at 3:19:39pm pacific
[22:30] <tomreyn> i see. so your question is, i assume "how am i booting then?"
[22:32] <kenperkins> yea, and/or trying to understand exactly how booting works so I can make sense of it across my two devices and ~7 partitions
[22:32] <tomreyn> what does this report?    echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[22:33] <kenperkins> uefi; which makes sense, in my bios legacy mode is disabled
[22:35] <tomreyn> so the system will most likely have loaded grub off an EFI system partition (ESP), that's usually mounted at /boot/efi
[22:36] <tomreyn> lsblk | grep efi
[22:36] <kenperkins> i have two EFI partitions, one on each device, my current `/boot` path has an empty efi subdir
[22:36] <kenperkins> nada
[22:37] <Sbur3> Since I upgraded to 20.04, my display is playing games with me.  Constantly like if someone is unplugging the hfmi cable from it and plugging it back in
[22:38] <Sbur3> Anyone out there wanna try to help me?
[22:38] <Sbur3> hdmi*
[22:38] <tomreyn> kenperkins: so this should return info on the esp's:   blkid | grep efi
[22:39] <Sbur3> I did a hw-probe
[22:40] <kenperkins> tomreyn: also nada
[22:41] <tomreyn> kenperkins: efibootmgr -v    should contain the GPT partition UUID of the ESP which grub is loaded from
[22:42] <tomreyn> BootCurrent provides the ID of the Bootnnnn record below which the system was booted with.
[22:47] <kenperkins> ok, that's helpful
[22:47] <kenperkins> https://pastebin.com/6mu1gMje
[22:47] <kenperkins> so now, I just need to understand which partitions those are, and where is that configuration stored
[22:49] <tomreyn> lsblk lists partition uids as well as device nodes
[22:49] <tomreyn> (or device paths)
[22:49] <tomreyn> df851d74-f976-4650-ad22-7e7246e4cd57 is the partition uuid
[22:50] <tomreyn> sorry i mean blkid lists those
[22:53] <tomreyn> blkid -t PARTUUID=df851d74-f976-4650-ad22-7e7246e4cd57
[22:54] <kenperkins> what about that MBR based partition, it has no guid?
[22:57] <tona> hello everyone, how can I display all the package before 20.04 I could do apt-cache show .   , how could I do it for 20.04
[22:58] <tomreyn> "display all the package before 20.04"?
[22:59] <tona> previuos version I can run  ,     apt-cache show  .     but not for ubuntu 20.04
[22:59] <tomreyn> what happens when you do?
[22:59] <tona> E: Unsupported file . given on commandline
[23:00] <tomreyn> oh you mean the verbatim dot
[23:00] <tona> yes
[23:00] <tomreyn> that's to list all packages available?
[23:00] <tona> all the packages related with repositories
[23:01] <tona> yes
[23:02] <tomreyn> apt list
[23:02] <kenperkins> tomreyn: do you think (considering I have two efi paritions) I can delete one of them? :D
[23:02] <kenperkins> worst case I run boot-repair?
[23:02] <tomreyn> kenperkins: do you have other OSes installed and keep switching between them?
[23:03] <kenperkins> i have 20.04 and 19.10 installed atm
[23:03] <kenperkins> 20.04 is for deving my host bootstrapping, at some point it will become my main
[23:03] <tona> I would lilke to see like this sctriucuture, Package: firefox
[23:03] <kenperkins> but I'm not very capable/knowledgeable about boot loaders
[23:04] <tomreyn> kenperkins: it'd be a pity if the ony of them booted off the one ESP, the other off the other ESP
[23:04] <tona> normmaly I could get this structrure using this command, apt-cache show .    but it is not working for 20.04
[23:04] <tona> see,  aam missing one parameter
[23:05] <tomreyn> tona: if you prefer apt-cache's output, you can use   apt-cache show '.*'
[23:06] <tona> excellent :)
[23:06] <tona> thanks you
[23:07] <Bashing-om> kenperkins: Might be good to see from the respective installs what grub thinks: sudo grub-probe -t device /boot/grub .
[23:07] <kenperkins> on each os
[23:08] <kenperkins> yea, so this one, it's the mount at /
[23:09] <kenperkins> can't easily get to the other os without losing quassel
[23:09] <kenperkins> brb
[23:10] <rawfodog> I'm having a quirk where my external harddrive takes a minute to spin up before I can access it's folders. Now my guess this is a useful power setting,but I was wondering if there is a setting to make the drive accessible faster?
[23:13] <Bashing-om> rawfodog: One thought - automount a partition of the drive from the system's /etc/fstab file.
[23:14] <kenperkins> ok let's take a look
[23:15] <kenperkins> tomreyn: on so on my other os, I do get a response for blkid | grep efi
[23:15] <kenperkins> the output of efibootmgr -v is identical
[23:16] <kenperkins> sorry, clarification; I get a device from lsblk | grep efi, but not from blkid
[23:17] <kenperkins> Bashing-om: each os has a different result for the grub probe
[23:18] <kenperkins> I don't fully digest what that means however
[23:18] <Bashing-om> kenperkins: Then we can surmise grub finds them usefull :)
[23:29] <frad> how can I get rid of thumbnails?
[23:29] <tomreyn> tweezers. hurts a lot, though.
[23:30] <Ratel> lol
[23:30] <frad> we have a smart guy here
[23:31] <Ratel> well, at least he made me laugh
[23:32] <tomreyn> i could possibly have answered the questionin the context of this channel if you had provided a bit more contextual info
[23:33] <tomreyn> !details
[23:33] <StatelessCat> Hi
[23:33] <StatelessCat> sup bros?
[23:34] <tomreyn> no bro's here, just people
[23:34] <Ratel> tomreyn: have made my day
[23:34] <Ratel> you
[23:35] <tomreyn> Ratel: you're welcome.
[23:36] <frad> true, simple question, incomplete
[23:52] <kenperkins> Bashing-om: my read is I can delete the mbr boot partition as neither os says it's used by grub
[23:59] <Guest_25> Hey, is anyone online
[23:59] <curloxide> yes
[23:59] <Guest_25> does anyone know where to find i386 versions of ubuntu?