| jphilips | other than disabling the compositor and disabling some of the autostart apps, what other tweaks can be made to improve performance | 01:23 |
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| jphilips | and reduce memory usage | 01:23 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| Unit193 | Check what's using the most ram, check `systemd-analyze blame`, etc. | 02:34 |
| === jphilips_ is now known as jphilips | ||
| jphilips | Unit193: thanks. the top things are blueman-mechanism, the snapd, then man-db | 09:10 |
| ochosi | tbh disabling the compositor doesn't necessarily mean more performance | 09:11 |
| ochosi | it may actually mean less performance | 09:12 |
| jphilips | bluesabre: we ship floating xfce in the screensaver and thinking we should be having floating xubuntu | 09:12 |
| ochosi | because you shift effort from the gpu to the cpu | 09:12 |
| jphilips | thanks for the insight ochosi | 09:12 |
| ochosi | so unless you have a really old gpu it's really not an advantage | 09:12 |
| ochosi | (which is also why i'm not working on non-compositing optimizations in xfce upstream anymore) | 09:12 |
| Unit193 | Oh hey, did you see the commit I pasted here? | 09:12 |
| ochosi | Oh hey, did you see that we accept merge requests over on gitlab.xfce.org? | 09:13 |
| ochosi | :D | 09:13 |
| Unit193 | Yeah that's a lot more complicated. :/ | 09:14 |
| ochosi | not really | 09:14 |
| Unit193 | I'll see if I can't bastardize `salsa` to do it sometime next week or more. | 09:14 |
| ochosi | 1) create account (you should have one anyway) | 09:14 |
| jphilips | with the bugs that have been cropping up with compositing, i've noticed that xfwm was running at ~14% of cpu if i just had a window open, so decided to disable compositing | 09:15 |
| ochosi | 2) i give you access | 09:15 |
| ochosi | 3) you fork the repo | 09:15 |
| ochosi | 4) create branch, push branch | 09:15 |
| ochosi | 5) file merge request | 09:15 |
| Unit193 | Yeah Gitlab is super slow. | 09:15 |
| ochosi | 6) i click "merge" | 09:15 |
| ochosi | :D | 09:15 |
| ochosi | less slow than you pinging and reminding me here ;) | 09:15 |
| Unit193 | But like I said, sometime next week (or month) I'll see if I can't modify a GL script to do it. :) | 09:15 |
| ochosi | i'm on my work laptop now, so i can't push "your" commit | 09:17 |
| ochosi | i could merge it | 09:17 |
| Unit193 | That's OK, I'm not on a system right now that can really mess with GitLab right now, so I can commit but not push anywhere. :D | 09:18 |
| ochosi | hehe | 09:18 |
| ochosi | nice | 09:18 |
| ochosi | we're both stuck! :D | 09:19 |
| Unit193 | I guess I should check what other's preferences are with regards to committing, see if I should continue the drive-by typo fixes. :P | 09:20 |
| ochosi | i think in gitlab you can easily fix typos in the Web UI | 09:23 |
| jphilips | i'm logging into gitlab with my github account, but i'm getting a notice that only when i set a password will i be able to pull or push. is this correct? | 09:26 |
| ochosi | for pushing you need a "verified" account | 09:29 |
| ochosi | so an xfce admin has to approve your account | 09:29 |
| ochosi | cloning should work even anonymously i think | 09:29 |
| jphilips | https://imgur.com/l71yfuQ.png | 09:30 |
| ochosi | right, maybe then | 09:31 |
| ochosi | you could try and then let me know so we can update the contributor docs | 09:31 |
| jphilips | git clone https worked fine, even without my ssh keys connected to it | 09:33 |
| ochosi | just with github | 09:34 |
| ochosi | yeah, ssh keys are not necessary | 09:34 |
| jphilips | to confirm, if i dont do step 2 (you giving me access), i wont be able to fork, branch and send in merge request (steps 2 to 5) | 09:36 |
| jphilips | seems strange, as on github you can do all these without requesting access | 09:37 |
| ochosi | please read my release announcement/email | 09:39 |
| ochosi | it's mentioned and explained there | 09:39 |
| jphilips | okay | 09:40 |
| Unit193 | I think I can use `gitlab-xfce` now to fork/push a mr if I can only grab an API key now. :D | 09:43 |
| jphilips | if ubiquity slide translations for groovy arent available yet, should i suggest a contributor contribute to focal? https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu | 11:47 |
| jphilips | not sure why, but when i updated my system yesterday, it reinstalled the snap store | 12:14 |
| jphilips | when will the .1 release come out? | 13:54 |
| === jphilips_ is now known as jphilips | ||
| jphilips | did another update and its try to install the snap store again. any idea now to stop this | 16:33 |
| brainwash | jphilips: ask the ubuntu devs | 17:02 |
| jphilips | guess its time for me to complete wipe snap from my system as i was only using it for a single app anyway | 17:03 |
| jphilips | this is what it shows in software updater - https://imgur.com/yJxyjZD.png | 17:05 |
| brainwash | having it installed wouldn't bother me | 17:05 |
| jphilips | its trying to remove gnome-software as well | 17:05 |
| brainwash | makes sense I guess | 17:09 |
| brainwash | snap store is a tweaked gnome-software, isn't it? | 17:09 |
| jphilips | yes, but only installs snaps | 17:10 |
| brainwash | that sounds like a bad design | 17:11 |
| jphilips | that's whats all the rage these days with people saying canonical is shoving snaps down people's throats | 17:12 |
| jphilips | read this recently https://www.osnews.com/story/131746/ubuntu-20-04-lts-snap-obsession-has-snapped-me-off-of-it/ | 17:13 |
| brainwash | "obsession" | 17:14 |
| brainwash | didn't they go back and removed the snap installed calculator? | 17:14 |
| jphilips | yep they removed the snaps of calculator and character map and added the snap of the store | 17:15 |
| brainwash | so, it's actually a good move | 17:16 |
| brainwash | people don't like the store, and now it can be only used for snaps | 17:16 |
| brainwash | meaning that you don't have to use store anymore or only if you want to deal with snaps | 17:16 |
| jphilips | ubuntu comes with snap store and no longer gnome software | 17:18 |
| brainwash | and that is brilliant | 17:19 |
| brainwash | people can go back to use other ways of installing software :) | 17:22 |
| jphilips | definitely a good move on their end to push snaps, just not liking what its trying to do to my system | 17:22 |
| jphilips | just another reason why i prefer synaptic over these software stores | 17:22 |
| brainwash | "Other specific changes Daniel and other GNOME developers worked on this cycle include:" | 18:10 |
| brainwash | " - Moving mouse no longer involves JavaScript" | 18:10 |
| jphilips | yep i found that hilarious in the announcement | 18:11 |
| brainwash | GNOME must be a nice playground for people who like to optimize stuff | 18:12 |
| brainwash | and once everything is done, all javascript is gone :D | 18:14 |
| === nikow1 is now known as nikow | ||
| jphilips | from david mohammed | 18:54 |
| jphilips | " I did ping in ubuntu flavors irc about this when I found the same thing in ubuntu budgie. Since you have gnome-software as a recommendation in your seeds, update manager will "upgrade" it to a snap" | 18:55 |
| jphilips | "your seed needs to be adjusted to make gnome-software a dependency" | 18:55 |
| jphilips | "suggest tag your fellow xubuntu devs - its a feature - perhaps undesirable in 20.04 xubuntu" | 18:55 |
| jphilips | "unfortunately for xubuntu upgraders or 20.04 installations they will have been "upgraded" to the snap by now when they run update-manager." | 18:55 |
| jphilips | "The way to resolve for now is to sudo apt install gnome-software" | 18:55 |
| jphilips | "then update manager will not try to upgrade it to a snap" | 18:56 |
| jphilips | bluesabre: ^^^ | 18:56 |
| Unit193 | We already pull in gnome-software, I'm not sure why the solution to that is to install...gnome-software. | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | I have no idea if I'm the only one that really dislikes GitLab, but if you'd like to avoid using it while using it, install devscripts then add an alias to ~/.bash_aliases with gitlab-xfce='salsa --conffile ~/.config/gitlab-xfce.conf', and then add ~/.config/gitlab-xfce.conf SALSA_API_URL=https://gitlab.xfce.org/api/v4 SALSA_GIT_SERVER_URL=git@gitlab.xfce.org: and define a SALSA_TOKEN= with | 21:19 |
| Unit193 | something you generate on gitlab.xfce.org | 21:19 |
| jphilips | not sure why it is as well, but doing the apt install, solved the issue for me and now i'm not prompted in update manager to uninstall gnome software | 21:21 |
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