[00:00] cpu's (the new one eats less power) https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q9400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-PRO-3900/1045vs3563 [00:00] yes, higher is better :) [00:02] I was already thinking in buying a new system 'cause I can't manage to make this motherboard boot from an SSD so I think it's time to retire this system ASAP [00:03] will try the fix you linked me though since my mom needs to use and then shut down it's PC at the moment xD [00:05] :) understandable. what this does is, roughly spoken, try to convince the bios to treat your kubuntu like it would treat a windows system, rather than treating it as "undefined" [00:05] anyways is amazing how well this computer behaves in everyday tasks as checking mail, watching youtube, surfing the web, social media, writing documents etc [00:05] linux rules [00:06] if it still works well enough, that's nice. [00:07] i can even watch netflix or make photomanipulation and edit pdfs and use my printer/scanner so yeah it works great, that's probably why we havent changed it yet [00:08] but sometimes it gets this kind of problems and the boot time load is very slow but when it has started it runs just fine [00:13] salvaconnome: this may be due to a decomposing hdd, which would be no surpise after such long time. use !smart [00:13] !smart [00:13] smart is Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology, a monitoring system for hard drives. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools [00:15] the fact that this computer is full of documents and big size pictures and 4! HDDs for sure helps to make things worse [00:26] uh, i hope it's mirror raid then [00:27] but even then, at this age, you may have had data loss already [00:27] (just not noticed it, yet) [00:28] (Photo, 1677x959) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3mj3QvWR/file_29116.jpg [00:31] the statistics may be of relevance [00:31] or attributes? not sure, i'm not familiar with this gui [00:32] nope no raid. just a bunch of different old disks recovered from old computers [00:32] I'm asking for troubles in this system I know [00:35] well the computer shuts down okay now so thanks for that [00:36] I'll keep an eye and read more about smartmontools tomorrow, right now is very late and am gonna go sleep. thanks a lot for your great help [00:40] you're welcome! :) [00:41] and for the future: you'll likely get much faster replies when you highlight the user user whenever yu say something [00:41] e.g. you'd start every line you type with "tomreyn: " (when talking to me). [00:42] salvaconnome: like this [00:44] tomreyn: okay gracias [00:50] :) [01:14] (Photo, 800x600) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/S0OYIIed/file_29117.jpg tomreyn: actual picture of the computer you helped fix lol (normally is closed) [01:14] a call from the past ;) [01:15] well it's sata already ;) [01:15] I said past not prehistory :P [02:13] @salvaconnome, lmao [02:32] (Photo, 1691x1164) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ihwHmdub/file_29120.jpg [02:32] When is this getting Resolved For Kontact? [02:33] This is for Google Gmail === eb is now known as Guest55213 [02:37] @zparihar, https://www.dvratil.cz/2019/08/kontact-google-integration-issue/ [03:00] What's better, Running qt apps on Gnome, or running gtk apps on Plasma? [03:01] Especially if you need almost equal number of apps from either side === saigel_ is now known as saigel [03:31] Hi, i'm running Kubuntu 18.04. Since i connected an ext moni to my laptop my wallpapers & Panel are disappearing al the time on boot. [03:31] Wallpapers also sometimes when switching activities. Anyone got any advice? [04:43] did someone send me a msg? i got a notification. but my irc is in an activity i can't open... === kubuntu is now known as Guest24649 [06:21] Good morning === tim is now known as Guest38970 [06:39] Good morning [06:57] helektron was added by: helektron [06:57] Good morning [06:58] I'm using kubuntu 20.04 and the startup is slow. Is anyone having this issue? [06:58] ❯ systemd-analyze … Startup finished in 7.402s (firmware) + 5.808s (loader) + 9.312s (kernel) + 8.197s (userspace) = 30.721s … graphical.target reached after 8.184s in userspace [06:59] ❯ systemd-analyze blame … 6.678s NetworkManager-wait-online.service … 4.293s fwupd.service … 1.671s apt-daily-upgrade.service … 1.016s systemd-logind.service … [06:59] man-db.service … 623ms dev-mapper-vgkubuntu\x2droot.device … 498ms snapd.service … 432ms blueman-mechanism.service … 398ms upower.service [06:59] … 392ms systemd-journald.service … 319ms dev-loop1.device … 311ms dev-loop2.device … 305ms systemd-timesyncd.service … [06:59] systemd-resolved.service … 299ms networkd-dispatcher.service … 284ms dev-loop3.device … 278ms snap-postman-107.mount … 273ms snap-snapd-7264.mount [06:59] … 265ms php7.3-fpm.service … 245ms accounts-daemon.service … 238ms udisks2.service … 235ms snap-gnome\x2dterminator-1.mount … [06:59] phpsessionclean.service … 226ms dev-loop0.device … 225ms dev-loop5.device … 225ms dev-loop4.device … 221ms dev-loop8.device [06:59] … 214ms logrotate.service … 205ms dev-loop6.device … 185ms snap-core-9066.mount … 177ms snap-riot\x2dweb-76.mount … [07:13] hi guys im trying to game on machine its a lenovo laptop with intel i5 8250U and the fps is bad on a lite game that that have linux supprot [07:14] im on kubuntu 19.10 [07:15] can i improve the fps with driver or somthing? [07:44] Guys may you help me? I think Windows has owned my HD and now I can only copy files from it. How I can fix this problem? [07:45] Good morning, I'm using kubuntu 20.04 and having some slow boot issues [07:45] ❯ systemd-analyze … Startup finished in 8.720s (firmware) + 5.809s (loader) + 8.700s (kernel) + 2.292s (userspace) = 25.523s … graphical.target reached after 2.283s in userspace [07:58] helektron: have patience, this is IRC. For a direct medium sometimes surprisingly slow. [07:58] Also, could you paste the output of `systemd-analyze blame` via a paste service, this is completely unreadable. [07:58] !paste [07:58] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [07:59] yay238: What is the output of `sudo lspci -k`? === bogdan_ is now known as flejm [08:02] Ok changing splash screen to none (instead of breze) helped a lot as well [08:02] The output https://pastebin.com/gEZivteq [08:03] https://pastebin.com/zNP9BfZ5 [08:08] helektron: most of the time seems to be taken up by the firmware and the kernel. That is very hard to optimize (without recompiling the kernel). [08:09] That said, you can always disable services you do not use to shave off some time. [08:11] ok thanks! [08:12] and what about loader + userspace ? [08:14] can it be optimized? [08:14] about services I killed the Network boot === timon__ is now known as tmnvanderberg [08:23] IIRC userspace is the time spent on starting services. [08:23] Not really sure what loader meant. [08:31] ok thanks === veronica is now known as Guest33576 === _sunn_ is now known as sunn [09:10] [ [09:10] ko [09:10] j [09:10] j [09:10] j [09:10] j [09:10] j [09:10] j [09:10] j === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life [10:53] !ops [10:53] Help! Channel Emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies!) acheronuk, ahoneybun, claydoh, ikonia, jussi, Mamarok, mneptok, Nalioth, ovidiu-florin, Pici, Riddell, ryanakca, shadeslayer, Tm_T, tsimpson, valorie, Unit193, yofel, dax. [10:53] What are they doing? They are typing letters like that [10:53] for no reason [10:56] What's that command used for? I mean the !ops command [11:05] Franzpow: highlights people with op powers [11:14] Chrome started asking for kdewallet password 1 day after installing Kubuntu 20.04 clean. Are there any plans to fix it so it would not start breaking like this? [11:17] I basically reinstalled the OS, because 18.04 also broke so that it started asking for a password which was never set, so this is a bummer [11:27] Hi all === _sunn_ is now known as sunn [11:40] If anyone has any idea why Chrome is asking for password (which was never set) for "kdewallet" it would be much appreciated. The wallet should be open, because the WiFi is connected, yet I get a password dialog. Any help? [11:54] jukebohi, do you have chrome set as default browser in system settings>personalization>applicationd>default applications ? [12:15] I just did a fresh install, and my internet is working too much slow.Restarted the system, still it is slow. Any fix? [12:26] And because the system asked for a kdewallet password that was never set, Google Chrome synccing is on "pause" [12:27] I don't get it, the default wallet opens automatically, coz the wifi gets connected, but then I get this bizarre question: give the non-existent password. [12:28] I just did a fresh install, and my internet is working too much slow.Restarted the system, still it is slow. Any fix? [12:28] I've lost count how manyeth version this is where the kdewallet starts asking for a non-set password. I was careful to get clean and this should be clean, but the kdewallet bugs keep on happening [12:29] sahil: have you tried is it the connection. Like with https://www.speedtest.net/ [12:29] sahil: do you use wifi or ethernet? [12:29] wifi [12:30] BluesKaj: No, it is not default and I don't want it to be [12:31] i tested it on debian just moments ago. It was working fine. IDK why it is not working here. [12:33] could there one day be a Kubuntu, where it doesn't start asking for an unset kdewallet password? [12:33] if it's not default, why do you use it? [12:34] I use kdewallet to store things like wifi passwords [12:34] If it wants a password it should ask the user to set one, before it throws the user into that pit of unset password [12:34] Can I use something else than kdewallet? Coz I'm tired of this happening always [12:35] BluesKaj: I use different browsers for different things [12:36] Do I need to reinstall the system and explicitly set a password (which I ultimately as a user don't want to do) because otherwise I'm just waiting to be locked out [12:36] How does the auto-opening stop working? Why does it ask for a password that was never set? These questions year after year [12:39] Is my HW rotten? I did not take other settings than .mozilla .config/konversationrc and .ssh from old system so afaik the install should be clean [12:39] So I guess I need to file a bug report on this [12:40] This be prlly the place https://bugs.kde.org/ [12:41] jukebohi, there are several answers on the internet to your question, but since I don't use kwallet at all I'll let you do the searching [12:41] BluesKaj: ok. so what can I use to achieve the functionality of kdewallet, but not use kdewallet? [12:42] dunno [12:42] BluesKaj: how do you store wifi passwords? [12:43] I use a textfile when I need it [12:43] what's textfile? [12:43] this is what comes outta-the-box, but the outta-the-box is just nasty accident waiting to happen, so I'm going to file a bug report coz this should not keep on happing to users [12:44] That's also happening to me since 19.10 [12:44] to me at least since 18.04 [12:44] If you choose to make kdewallet manage your passwords, this is going to happen [12:44] there is a solution , i just forget what t was [12:44] it is set by default to do that [12:45] but it will just break and start asking for an unset password [12:45] I asked on ask.ubuntu once but It did not solve my problem :( [12:45] if the passwordless thing cannot be made to work IT SHOULD BE REMOVED [12:45] but tit didn't have anything to do with kwallet since I've never used it [12:46] Franzpow: I [12:46] I'm going to file a bug report [12:46] it'll be a dupe [12:47] If this is not a case of rotten HW / rotten installation media and is happening to other unsuspecting users, it is not good for Kubuntu [12:47] it's chrome thing, nothing to do with HW [12:48] It is not a chrome thing if the kdewallet starts to ask for a password that was never set [12:48] KDE is broken [12:48] BS, it's chrome [12:49] BluesKaj: I have not set password. The default wallet is called 'kdewallet' afaik. KDE wallet asks for password to open up. How is this a chrome thing? [12:49] BluesKaj: it happened to me on 19.10 when I started my session without having chrome installed [12:49] :/ [12:50] do you have kwallet checked (active) with a blank pw in system settings ? if so then that could be a problem for more than chrome [12:51] wifi is up, so passwordless default wallet must be up [12:51] I check [12:51] Kwallet has the same password than my session [12:52] wifi pw has nothing to do with kwallet [12:52] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1218427/auto-login-problem-on-kubuntu [12:52] this was the problem I had [12:53] now I am using i3 on this pc and I have no more this problem. But on a new machine, on a fresh 20.04 installation, it just asks for my pw everytime I bootup the machine [12:53] BluesKaj: the KDE Wallet control in System Settings has no info about any password / any field [12:54] jukebohi, is kde wallet enabled or not ? [12:54] BluesKaj: In the default Kubuntu 20.04 wifi passwords are automatically stored in a preset passwordless KDE Wallet. Once the wallet breaks, you have no way to recover it [12:55] yes it is enabled [12:55] BS [12:56] not true I don';t need kde wallet on my laptop , set the pw in wifi configuration, [12:56] If the passwordless wallet thing cannot be made to reliably work (both Franzpow and have had the same issue) it should not be on by default [12:56] turn it off [12:56] BluesKaj: Yes, yes, I get that you are not using default Kubuntu [12:56] prlly coz the default Kubuntu does not work [12:57] kubuntu is very flexible, there's really no such nthing as default kubuntu [12:59] bs [12:59] If I install clean Kubuntu that is default Kubuntu [13:00] and the passwordless KDE Wallet is enabled by default [13:00] and there is no warning that "This will break and drive you insane asking for a password that was never set. Please untick box to disable passwordless wallet" [13:01] and who uses everything as default [13:01] IT COMES OUT-OF-THE-BOX LIKE THIS [13:01] ok you're trolling now [13:02] ignore is ready [13:13] If Kubuntu community wants to shoot itself in the leg, by all means, keep on shipping "features" that turn into bugs in a 1-2 days use on average [13:14] don't forget default browser is Firefox, not chrome [13:14] My default broser is Firefox too [13:14] thew use that [13:14] I want more than one browse [13:16] am I supposed to not use Chrome, because KDE Wallet's passwordlessness breaks? That's real logical. KDE Wallet breaks, so stop using Chrome [13:16] * BluesKaj shrugs .. [13:17] all this complaining takes up time that you could have used to find a solution to a minor problem on the 'net [13:18] BluesKaj: Previously what I've seen on the Internet was "Oh KDE Wallet started asking for an unset password? Here's the instructions to delete and recreate default wallet [13:20] I haven't seen "Oh KDE Wallet's passwordlessness breaks on people randomly, let's remove it or fix it." [13:21] this is over for me [13:22] jukebohi, what's your main complaina nd what is your desired expectation? [13:24] diogenes_: KDE Wallet's passwordlessness breaks without any user action. User is rendered unable to access default KDE wallet. Either the passwordlessness feature should be fixed, or removed if it cannot be made to work reliably [13:26] jukebohi, as a workaround you can use chrome --passwords-store=basic, or install seahorse and use --password-store=gnome (not sure the function is indeed called --password-store= but you can check it with google-chrome --help). [13:30] diogenes_: thanks for the workaround. I'm going to search for bug reports and write one if I don't find something sorting the issue out. [13:31] jukebohi, you're welcome and good idea about the bug report. === bogdan_ is now known as flejm [13:59] hi [14:00] I have some problem with instalation driver to graphic tablet [14:03] some error appears [14:05] make: *** [Makefile:74: dkms_modules_install] error 10 [14:06] it appears after sudo make dkms_install === simone is now known as Guest11232 [15:39] . [15:41] hello [15:59] toc toc toc [16:00] :-) [16:00] :-( [16:00] hello [16:01] I know this may be the wrong place, but if I click a link that should open a zoom window via xdg-open, how do i make it actually open it in kubuntu 20.04? I get the popup in chrome that says "open it?" then nothing. I have to manually copy and paste the id. [16:01] Can't find a simple fix/writeup [16:02] je cherche un groupe pour converser et decouvrir l'application [16:03] konversation...discuter le boud'gras...quoi === kubuntu is now known as Guest22857 [17:12] amd drivers, ok for now fow new install__ [19:00] the only workaround I found for Zoom btw is to just "open in browser" which is what I wanted anyway [19:00] zoom-the-app just crashes [19:00] it's a piece of junk anyway.... [19:00] something is crashing plasma...can it be the firefox browser? [19:01] Anyone know what the default font is for KWrite? I apparently changed it at some point and now I can't get any font to match the line height propery. :-) [19:02] there were some updates to kubuntu this morning and now firefox is crashing plasma...logging me out. [19:07] Gdk-Message: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0. [19:08] crell, you can go to system settings > Fonts and change back to default [19:10] That looks right. Thanks! [19:11] 👍🏻 [19:34] I am trying to reinstall firefox [19:34] that didn't help [19:38] Bradlee Sargent, ? [19:38] hello [19:39] @digoenes do you have any recommendations??? [19:40] Bradlee Sargent, what issue? [19:41] firefox now is crashing plasma with Fatal io error 11 (resource temporarily unavailable) on server x :0 [19:42] I guess I should check xsession errors [19:43] Bradlee Sargent, since when it started to crash? === lex is now known as Guest54698 [19:44] well, I got a message for updates in discoverer, so I applied them, then it told me to reboot, so I did... [19:44] then it started. [19:45] I found errors in .xsessions... [19:46] Bradlee Sargent, run: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak && firefox [19:48] no, that didn't help [19:48] I already had uninstalled and reinstalled the browser [19:49] Bradlee Sargent, then maybe a downgrade. [19:53] I would prefer to help the developers...does that make sense diognes_? [19:55] sure [20:10] I tried to do ubuntu-bug firefox...but it crashed plasma again... === DarthDilfridge is now known as qa [20:20] is this a job for ubuntu testers??? [20:39] sounds like a job for soemone who can fix apport. [20:49] @Bradlee Sargent possibly ask in #ubuntu? [20:49] much larger channel [20:50] we do include FF in our ISO because pretty much all the other flavors do, and we don't think Falkon is quite ready yet [20:50] but it's a gtk app and we don't work on it [20:51] @valorie I joined ubuntu...thanks [20:51] best of luck! [20:51] do I have to wait for an approval? [20:51] approval for what? [20:51] it isn't letting me send [20:51] oh, I don't know if they have bridged that channel [20:51] possibly not [20:51] huh??? bridged??? [20:52] I use IRC [20:52] you're in Telegram [20:52] I'm in IRC [20:52] we have a bridge [20:52] is there an irc client for kubuntu? [20:52] certainly! [20:52] Konversation [20:52] it's the best [20:53] if you decide to use IRC, you might need to register: [20:53] !register [20:53] For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode. [20:53] very simple process [21:03] I think I am already registered...do I use /join #ubuntu? === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life [21:36] #ubuntu has no matrix entry. [21:38] oerheks: he's on Telegram [21:38] I think they don't bridge it at all [21:38] but he was discussing setting up konversation [21:39] and /j #ubuntu will work just fine [21:39] or /join [21:39] whatever [21:39] indeed, and save it in favorites / autojoin [22:20] my plasma keeps crashing... [22:21] any way to get plasma to relogin without credentials after a crash? [22:21] my screen is all black...??? [22:22] maybe I should just reinstall kubuntu...unless you guys can help me to report this nonsense to ubuntu bug somehow, but I don't know how I can do that... [22:25] [18:24] [Notice] -ChanServ- [#kubuntu] Welcome to #kubuntu. This channel is logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com. Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService … [18:24] [470] bradlee #ubuntu #ubuntu-unregged Forwarding to another channel … [18:24] [Notice] -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-unregged] You have been redirected to a notice-only channel because the channel you tried to join 1) has a [22:25] of join attempts right now, or 2) is limited to NickServ-identified users for anti-spam reasons. If trying to join again does not work, identify to NickServ. If you don't have a NickServ account, see /msg nickserv help register and /join #freenode with any questions. [23:03] hmmm [23:04] you said you had regstered @Bradlee Sargent ? [23:04] you have to identify to nickserv before joining chans [23:04] konvi will do that if you set it up to do it that way [23:05] https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/extragear-network/konversation/serverlist.html [23:11] I am trying to join #ubuntu and having issues [23:11] I gave myself a password and registered and verified it [23:11] but I am not sure if the connect is working [23:12] I see you here..... [23:12] okay [23:12] so what about this connect??? [23:12] this connect? [23:12] unsure what you mean [23:12] I try typing /connect chat.freenode.net 6667 YourNick:YourPassword [23:12] no no [23:12] but it says "permission denied..." [23:13] not in IRC [23:13] yea [23:13] that is for a browser [23:13] using a webchat [23:13] I don't know how to use this password thingie... [23:13] if you are using konversation [23:13] yea I am [23:13] and have identified to nickserv [23:13] then type, on a new line: /j #ubuntu [23:14] or just click #ubuntu [23:14] and it will add the chan [23:14] "you need to be identified with services..." [23:14] !register [23:14] For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode. [23:14] "Cannot join channel(+r)...you need to be identified with services [23:15] you did what the above link says? [23:15] yea, it sent me an email and I clicked verify [23:15] sure [23:15] but you have to tell konversation to identify [23:15] https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/extragear-network/konversation/serverlist.html [23:15] tells you how [23:16] it's very simple -- you add it into the konvi setup [23:16] file > server list right at the top left of your konv screen [23:17] once set, Konv will always do it automatically [23:17] omarelifaz was added by: omarelifaz [23:18] "-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- bradlee has NOT COMPLETED registration verification" - first though.. [23:18] hmmm [23:19] dang it lost him again [23:21]