callmepk | good morning | 02:02 |
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jbicha | juliank: that might be bug 1873658, fixed in -proposed | 02:36 |
ubot5 | bug 1873658 in desktop-file-utils (Ubuntu Focal) "Deb Files are not associated with an application that manages packages" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1873658 | 02:36 |
duflu | Morning callmepk | 02:43 |
callmepk | morning duflu | 03:21 |
didrocks | good morning | 06:38 |
seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 06:38 |
duflu | Morning didrocks and seb128 | 06:41 |
duflu | biab | 06:41 |
didrocks | hey duflu, salut seb128 | 06:44 |
seb128 | hey duflu, salut didrocks, how are you? | 06:44 |
didrocks | good, thanks, and yourself? | 06:44 |
seb128 | I'm good thanks! | 06:45 |
ricotz | good morning | 06:56 |
duflu | seb128, tired. We had just enough easing of restrictions for Mother's Day to go ahead. Though that probably doesn't explain it -- I slept heaps, just low quality | 06:57 |
duflu | Hi ricotz | 06:57 |
marcustomlinson | morning desktoppers | 07:04 |
didrocks | hey ricotz, marcustomlinson | 07:04 |
duflu | Hi marcustomlinson | 07:06 |
marcustomlinson | hwy didrocks and duflu | 07:07 |
ricotz | hey duflu, didrocks, marcustomlinson, seb128 | 07:10 |
callmepk | hi ricotz didrocks marcustomlinson seb128 | 07:12 |
didrocks | hey callmepk | 07:20 |
marcustomlinson | hey hey ricotz and callmepk | 07:21 |
oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers, happy Monday! | 07:35 |
marcustomlinson | morning oSoMoN | 07:39 |
oSoMoN | morning marcustomlinson | 07:39 |
duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 07:40 |
didrocks | happy Monday oSoMoN | 07:40 |
oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:41 |
oSoMoN | salut didrocks, ça va bien? | 07:41 |
didrocks | oSoMoN: ça va bien, merci, et toi ? :) | 07:43 |
oSoMoN | très bien | 07:43 |
oSoMoN | I was just showing and explaining IRC to my 7yo daughter, and she couldn't stop laughing at my nickname :) | 07:44 |
didrocks | ahah, unsure how insulted or proud you should be :) | 07:44 |
oSoMoN | amused, that's all | 07:46 |
ginggs | hi desktoppers, would someone please help me stop my PC suspending at the login screen? LP: #1874219 | 07:49 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1874219 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) " PC suspends after 20 minutes at the login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874219 | 07:49 |
ginggs | it's a desktop PC, so is always on AC power | 07:49 |
marcustomlinson | duflu: Interested to see the bug backlog graph this week :) | 07:51 |
duflu | marcustomlinson, I got the impression you had done some things... Yeah I will update it before EOD | 07:51 |
Laney | moin | 08:02 |
didrocks | hey hey Laney | 08:03 |
oSoMoN | moin Laney | 08:03 |
duflu | Hi Laney | 08:08 |
marcustomlinson | ginggs: left a comment on your bug | 08:08 |
seb128 | hey marcustomlinsonric callmepk, ricotz, how are you? | 08:08 |
seb128 | Laney, hey Laney, good long w.e? | 08:08 |
ginggs | marcustomlinson: thanks, giving that a try | 08:10 |
oSoMoN | salut seb128, ça va? | 08:11 |
seb128 | oSoMoN, ouais, ça va ! et toi ? | 08:12 |
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callmepk | seb128 : Pretty good! how are you? | 08:16 |
seb128 | callmepk, I'm good | 08:16 |
oSoMoN | seb128, bien, merci! | 08:16 |
seb128 | shrug, libreoffice | 08:16 |
oSoMoN | what's up with it? | 08:16 |
oSoMoN | that help bug? | 08:16 |
seb128 | yes | 08:16 |
seb128 | I tried to upload the Debian package to a ppa unmodified | 08:16 |
seb128 | failed after 23 hours with a ENOSPACE in the ppa :/ | 08:17 |
Laney | hey didrocks oSoMoN duflu seb128 | 08:17 |
seb128 | the log has those 'no obvious way to instantiate implementation' warning though, which doesn't have in Debian | 08:17 |
seb128 | so I expect the config would have been buggy and then it's not a difference in the package but in the depends versions or toolchain | 08:17 |
seb128 | I also tried to disabled Bsymbolic-function since that often creates issues but no luck | 08:18 |
ricotz | oSoMoN, seb128, this starts to look like some burried condition whether this is a "Debian" build | 08:19 |
seb128 | ricotz, those 'no obvious way to instantiate implementation' warnings in the log are weird | 08:20 |
seb128 | also the resulting binaries are fine | 08:20 |
ricotz | seb128, fyi http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/main.xcd.diff | 08:20 |
seb128 | it's just a config problem, copying main.xcd from Debian makes F1 call the webbrowser on the documentation | 08:20 |
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ricotz | the last hunk looks pretty problematic | 08:20 |
seb128 | ricotz, the lack of all the DesktopBackend entries also no? | 08:21 |
ricotz | maybe | 08:21 |
seb128 | and how did you manage to get a pretty diff like that :p | 08:21 |
ricotz | but if replacements are not correctly filled this is a reall issue, which might not be restricted to main.xcd | 08:22 |
seb128 | right | 08:22 |
seb128 | numbertext is a diff with Debian | 08:22 |
seb128 | no? | 08:23 |
seb128 | I wish that Debian upload had successed in the ppa, it would have told me if those .xcd diff were still there | 08:24 |
ricotz | seb128, it is a switch to the internal dep, so might be handled wrong by the libreoffice buildsystem | 08:26 |
seb128 | right | 08:26 |
ginggs | marcustomlinson, seb128: thanks for your comments in the bug | 08:42 |
duflu | Erm, yeah marcustomlinson you win (is that you?) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive | 09:53 |
marcustomlinson | duflu: boom | 09:56 |
marcustomlinson | yeah cleaned out oldy mouldies | 09:56 |
marcustomlinson | not without irritating a lot of people with all the bug mail of course | 09:56 |
duflu | : | 09:57 |
duflu | : | 09:57 |
duflu | : | 09:57 |
duflu | 🎤 | 09:57 |
duflu | That was your delayed mic drop | 09:57 |
duflu | Nice | 09:57 |
marcustomlinson | :) | 09:58 |
Wimpress | Morning o/ | 09:58 |
duflu | marcustomlinson, I found in the past roughly 1 in 400 people got angry, which is sufficiently low | 09:58 |
duflu | Morning Wimpress | 09:58 |
marcustomlinson | duflu: and I was actually quite surprised by the number of positive reactions from users too | 09:58 |
marcustomlinson | I got a fair amount of "thank you for saying _something_ on this bug" | 09:59 |
marcustomlinson | even some negative reactions turned positive when I took the time to apologise and they realised there was a human watching the bug | 10:00 |
duflu | I assume it most mostly silence | 10:00 |
marcustomlinson | mostly yes, but if someone did reply I owed it to them to reply as well | 10:01 |
seb128 | hey Wimpress, wb, had a good week off? | 10:03 |
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duflu | marcustomlinson, that's amazing, thanks. I will also end my day on that good news | 10:13 |
marcustomlinson | duflu: good night :) | 10:13 |
ricotz | seb128, nevermind my comment about the $(instdir) | 10:29 |
seb128 | ricotz, oh? | 10:29 |
seb128 | it's resolved at runtime? | 10:29 |
ricotz | seb128, $(insturl) is normal | 10:30 |
ricotz | yes | 10:30 |
seb128 | k | 10:30 |
seb128 | k | 10:30 |
jphilips | hi all. I came across this on twitter related to the software store in 20.04 and wanted to bring it to your attention if you weren't already aware of it | 11:28 |
jphilips | https://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/1259735657020370944 | 11:28 |
marcustomlinson | thanks for the heads up jphilips | 11:30 |
jphilips | marcustomlinson: any time. was going to mention it in the #ubuntu-quality channel, but wasnt sure there were any ubuntu team members in there other than wimpy | 11:31 |
ogra | jphilips, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/+bug/1875450 most likely | 11:34 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1875450 in snap-store "Doesn't provide search info to gnome-shell overview > search" [Low,Confirmed] | 11:34 |
ogra | seb128, here is a shiny little bug for your next evo upload https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1877852 ... :) | 13:53 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1877852 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution not showing unread count in dock, missing build-dep" [Undecided,New] | 13:53 |
seb128 | ogra; hey, thanks, I wonder when we regressed that and how :/ | 13:55 |
jphilips | has there been any reports of snapd slowing shutdowns - https://twitter.com/j4yav/status/1259824398871257088 | 13:57 |
ogra | yeah ... | 13:58 |
ogra | it is shiny with that feature though ... | 13:58 |
ogra | ... and i was surprised how quick evo builds nowadays :) | 13:58 |
ogra | jphilips, yes, a fix is in edge AFAIK | 13:58 |
ogra | has been discussed on https://forum.snapcraft.io ... | 13:59 |
ogra | (and in the #snappy channel as well) | 14:00 |
jphilips | ogra: thanks | 14:01 |
ogra | jphilips, there is also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1877852 | 14:03 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1877852 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution not showing unread count in dock, missing build-dep" [Undecided,New] | 14:03 |
ogra | err | 14:03 |
ogra | sorry ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1873550 | 14:04 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1873550 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Snappy daemon reaches 1min30s timeout during shutdown process" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:04 |
ogra | silly copy/paste ... | 14:04 |
seb128 | jphilips, please use launchpad for bug repiorts | 14:05 |
oSoMoN | seb128, would you mind sponsoring https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/adwaita-icon-theme/-/commits/ubuntu/focal/ to focal, please? | 14:09 |
jphilips | seb128: okay | 14:09 |
seb128 | oSoMoN, I can do that sure, thanks for working on the update :) | 14:09 |
oSoMoN | np, it was an easy one | 14:09 |
seb128 | ogra, oh, that's a new feature in fact, nice. We provided that with evolution-indicator ... did that one stop working for you? or did you just not have it installed? | 14:11 |
ogra | seb128, i think one of the upgrades removed it ... (i didnt really stay long on 18.04, might have been that upgarde, I just used 18.04 to jump to 20.04 from 16.04) | 14:30 |
seb128 | ogra, can you try if reinstalling it fixes the issue without rebulding evolution? | 14:31 |
seb128 | ogra, would still be nicer to use the upstream variant but it's a bit annoying to enable, we are in sync with Debian and they don't have libunity so we would need to have a diff (or to get libunity to Debian ideally) | 14:32 |
ogra | ah, k | 14:33 |
ogra | hmm, the indicator pulls in all the old gconf-2 stuff alongside | 14:33 |
seb128 | oh :( | 14:34 |
seb128 | the feature is minimal, it probably makes sense to enable it for focal in the next upload | 14:35 |
seb128 | less annoyance and better out of the box experience | 14:35 |
ogra | seb128, yeah, seems to work ... the indicator should perhaps be a recommends ? | 14:41 |
seb128 | ogra, I would rather avoid pulling gconf in by default, enabling the upstream support seems a better way | 14:42 |
seb128 | also better to maintain a one line control diff than maintaining an outdated source depending on gconf (which we will want to remove from the archive at some point) | 14:43 |
ogra | seb128, well, i invalidated the bug anyway, guessing you might want to fix it in debian rather (once they pulled unity8 in they might also pull in libunity (IIRC even unity8 uses that) | 19:07 |
seb128 | ogra, right, libunity is standalone and would make sense there | 19:18 |
ogra | +1 | 19:19 |
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