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callmepkgood morning02:02
jbichajuliank: that might be bug 1873658, fixed in -proposed02:36
ubot5bug 1873658 in desktop-file-utils (Ubuntu Focal) "Deb Files are not associated with an application that manages packages" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187365802:36
dufluMorning callmepk 02:43
callmepkmorning duflu 03:21
didrocksgood morning06:38
seb128goood morning desktopers06:38
dufluMorning didrocks and seb128 06:41
duflubiab06:41
didrockshey duflu, salut seb128 06:44
seb128hey duflu, salut didrocks, how are you?06:44
didrocksgood, thanks, and yourself?06:44
seb128I'm good thanks!06:45
ricotzgood morning06:56
dufluseb128, tired. We had just enough easing of restrictions for Mother's Day to go ahead. Though that probably doesn't explain it -- I slept heaps, just low quality06:57
dufluHi ricotz 06:57
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers07:04
didrockshey ricotz, marcustomlinson 07:04
dufluHi marcustomlinson 07:06
marcustomlinsonhwy didrocks and duflu07:07
ricotzhey duflu, didrocks, marcustomlinson, seb128 07:10
callmepkhi ricotz didrocks marcustomlinson seb128 07:12
didrockshey callmepk 07:20
marcustomlinsonhey hey ricotz and callmepk07:21
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers, happy Monday!07:35
marcustomlinsonmorning oSoMoN07:39
oSoMoNmorning marcustomlinson 07:39
dufluHi oSoMoN 07:40
didrockshappy Monday oSoMoN 07:40
oSoMoNhey duflu07:41
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, ça va bien?07:41
didrocksoSoMoN: ça va bien, merci, et toi ? :)07:43
oSoMoNtrès bien07:43
oSoMoNI was just showing and explaining IRC to my 7yo daughter, and she couldn't stop laughing at my nickname :)07:44
didrocksahah, unsure how insulted or proud you should be :)07:44
oSoMoNamused, that's all07:46
ginggshi desktoppers, would someone please help me stop my PC suspending at the login screen? LP: #187421907:49
ubot5Launchpad bug 1874219 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) " PC suspends after 20 minutes at the login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187421907:49
ginggsit's a desktop PC, so is always on AC power07:49
marcustomlinsonduflu: Interested to see the bug backlog graph this week :)07:51
duflumarcustomlinson, I got the impression you had done some things... Yeah I will update it before EOD07:51
Laneymoin08:02
didrockshey hey Laney 08:03
oSoMoNmoin Laney 08:03
dufluHi Laney08:08
marcustomlinsonginggs: left a comment on your bug08:08
seb128hey marcustomlinsonric callmepk, ricotz, how are you?08:08
seb128Laney, hey Laney, good long w.e?08:08
ginggsmarcustomlinson: thanks, giving that a try08:10
oSoMoNsalut seb128, ça va?08:11
seb128oSoMoN, ouais, ça va ! et toi ?08:12
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callmepkseb128 : Pretty good! how are you?08:16
seb128callmepk, I'm good08:16
oSoMoNseb128, bien, merci!08:16
seb128shrug, libreoffice08:16
oSoMoNwhat's up with it?08:16
oSoMoNthat help bug?08:16
seb128yes08:16
seb128I tried to upload the Debian package to a ppa unmodified08:16
seb128failed after 23 hours with a ENOSPACE in the ppa :/08:17
Laneyhey didrocks oSoMoN duflu seb128 08:17
seb128the log has those 'no obvious way to instantiate implementation' warning though, which doesn't have in Debian08:17
seb128so I expect the config would have been buggy and then it's not a difference in the package but in the depends versions or toolchain08:17
seb128I also tried to disabled Bsymbolic-function since that often creates issues but no luck08:18
ricotzoSoMoN, seb128, this starts to look like some burried condition whether this is a "Debian" build08:19
seb128ricotz, those 'no obvious way to instantiate implementation'  warnings in the log are weird08:20
seb128also the resulting binaries are fine08:20
ricotzseb128, fyi http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/libreoffice/main.xcd.diff08:20
seb128it's just a config problem, copying main.xcd from Debian makes F1 call the webbrowser on the documentation08:20
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ricotzthe last hunk looks pretty problematic08:20
seb128ricotz, the lack of all the DesktopBackend entries also no?08:21
ricotzmaybe08:21
seb128and how did you manage to get a pretty diff like that :p08:21
ricotzbut if replacements are not correctly filled this is a reall issue, which might not be restricted to main.xcd08:22
seb128right08:22
seb128numbertext is a diff with Debian08:22
seb128no?08:23
seb128I wish that Debian upload had successed in the ppa, it would have told me if those .xcd diff were still there08:24
ricotzseb128, it is a switch to the internal dep, so might be handled wrong by the libreoffice buildsystem08:26
seb128right08:26
ginggsmarcustomlinson, seb128: thanks for your comments in the bug08:42
dufluErm, yeah marcustomlinson you win (is that you?) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive09:53
marcustomlinsonduflu: boom09:56
marcustomlinsonyeah cleaned out oldy mouldies09:56
marcustomlinsonnot without irritating a lot of people with all the bug mail of course09:56
duflu:09:57
duflu:09:57
duflu:09:57
duflu🎤09:57
dufluThat was your delayed mic drop09:57
dufluNice09:57
marcustomlinson:)09:58
WimpressMorning o/09:58
duflumarcustomlinson, I found in the past roughly 1 in 400 people got angry, which is sufficiently low09:58
dufluMorning Wimpress 09:58
marcustomlinsonduflu: and I was actually quite surprised by the number of positive reactions from users too09:58
marcustomlinsonI got a fair amount of "thank you for saying _something_ on this bug"09:59
marcustomlinsoneven some negative reactions turned positive when I took the time to apologise and they realised there was a human watching the bug10:00
dufluI assume it most mostly silence10:00
marcustomlinsonmostly yes, but if someone did reply I owed it to them to reply as well10:01
seb128hey Wimpress, wb, had a good week off?10:03
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duflumarcustomlinson, that's amazing, thanks. I will also end my day on that good news10:13
marcustomlinsonduflu: good night :)10:13
ricotzseb128, nevermind my comment about the $(instdir)10:29
seb128ricotz, oh?10:29
seb128it's resolved at runtime?10:29
ricotzseb128, $(insturl) is normal10:30
ricotzyes10:30
seb128k10:30
seb128k10:30
jphilipshi all. I came across this on twitter related to the software store in 20.04 and wanted to bring it to your attention if you weren't already aware of it11:28
jphilipshttps://twitter.com/itsfoss2/status/125973565702037094411:28
marcustomlinsonthanks for the heads up jphilips11:30
jphilipsmarcustomlinson: any time. was going to mention it in the #ubuntu-quality channel, but wasnt sure there were any ubuntu team members in there other than wimpy11:31
ograjphilips, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/+bug/1875450 most likely11:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1875450 in snap-store "Doesn't provide search info to gnome-shell overview > search" [Low,Confirmed]11:34
ograseb128, here is a shiny little bug for your next evo upload https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1877852 ... :)13:53
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1877852 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution not showing unread count in dock, missing build-dep" [Undecided,New]13:53
seb128ogra; hey, thanks, I wonder when we regressed that and how :/13:55
jphilipshas there been any reports of snapd slowing shutdowns - https://twitter.com/j4yav/status/125982439887125708813:57
ograyeah ... 13:58
ograit is shiny with that feature though ... 13:58
ogra... and i was surprised how quick evo builds nowadays :)13:58
ograjphilips, yes, a fix is in edge AFAIK13:58
ograhas been discussed on https://forum.snapcraft.io ... 13:59
ogra(and in the #snappy channel as well)14:00
jphilipsogra: thanks14:01
ograjphilips, there is also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/187785214:03
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1877852 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution not showing unread count in dock, missing build-dep" [Undecided,New]14:03
ograerr14:03
ograsorry ... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/187355014:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1873550 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Snappy daemon reaches 1min30s timeout during shutdown process" [Undecided,Incomplete]14:04
ograsilly copy/paste ... 14:04
seb128jphilips, please use launchpad for bug repiorts14:05
oSoMoNseb128, would you mind sponsoring https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/adwaita-icon-theme/-/commits/ubuntu/focal/ to focal, please?14:09
jphilipsseb128: okay14:09
seb128oSoMoN, I can do that sure, thanks for working on the update :)14:09
oSoMoNnp, it was an easy one14:09
seb128ogra, oh, that's a new feature in fact, nice. We provided that with evolution-indicator  ... did that one stop working for you? or did you just not have it installed?14:11
ograseb128, i think one of the upgrades removed it ... (i didnt really stay long on 18.04, might have been that upgarde, I just used 18.04 to jump to 20.04 from 16.04)14:30
seb128ogra, can you try if reinstalling it fixes the issue without rebulding evolution?14:31
seb128ogra, would still be nicer to use the upstream variant but it's a bit annoying to enable, we are in sync with Debian and they don't have libunity so we would need to have a diff (or to get libunity to Debian ideally)14:32
ograah, k 14:33
ograhmm, the indicator pulls in all the old gconf-2 stuff alongside14:33
seb128oh :(14:34
seb128the feature is minimal, it probably makes sense to enable it for focal in the next upload14:35
seb128less annoyance and better out of the box experience14:35
ograseb128, yeah, seems to work ... the indicator should perhaps be a recommends ? 14:41
seb128ogra, I would rather avoid pulling gconf in by default, enabling the upstream support seems a better way14:42
seb128also better to maintain a one line control diff than maintaining an outdated source depending on gconf (which we will want to remove from the archive at some point)14:43
ograseb128, well, i invalidated the bug anyway, guessing you might want to fix it in debian rather (once they pulled unity8 in they might also pull in libunity (IIRC even unity8 uses that)19:07
seb128ogra, right, libunity is standalone and would make sense there19:18
ogra+119:19

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