[13:14] <mrgoodcat> is the terminal bell what you're looking for?
[13:14] <mrgoodcat> if so, it's just a special character that when printed to the terminal causes it to ring the bell
[17:14] <mrgoodcat> https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-Intel-NUCs-5-Nvidia-Jetson-TK1s-Mini-PC-1u-Single-Board-Computer-Array/202977104873 this seems like a decent deal. couple of my coworkers picked one up
[17:16] <cmaloney> RAM and HDD removed, so you'll need to at least find 10 sticks for these things
[17:17] <mrgoodcat> yes
[17:17] <cmaloney> That said, looks like a pretty sweet deal
[17:18] <mrgoodcat> I was considering it, but having to spend another grand on parts and not having any real need for a local cluster means i probably won't
[17:47] <jrwren> first time using restic for backups. I'm impressed. really nice experience.
[17:58] <cmaloney> Looks nice
[17:58] <cmaloney> would be interested to see how restore works
[17:59] <cmaloney> Oh, it has FUSE support
[17:59] <cmaloney> that makes me really interested, because Duplicity's restores are a right pain
[18:02] <jrwren> i'm backing up to B2 right now.
[18:02] <jrwren> the exclude-from works perfectly. and I can verify the size before and using `du --exclude-from=`
[18:03] <jrwren> and when something wasn't working I was able to read the easy to read Go source on github and realize its my fault with a / instead of a : (I was reading the docs wrongly)
[18:03] <cmaloney> heh
[18:20] <_stink_> jrwren: what are you using for a backup repository?
[18:20] <jrwren> b2
[18:23] <rick_h> <3 b2
[18:23] <jrwren> yeah, 1/4 the price of S3, and i love their blogging about storage
[18:25] <rick_h> yea, I use them through my synology setup to sync off everything off site
[18:27] <jrwren> i'm just very happy to have stuff going offsite again. I'd definitely let my offsite backups lapse for a while.
[18:33] <greg-g> +1 to b2
[18:43] <rick_h> greg-g:  how's the family doing in lock down?
[18:48] <cmaloney> rick_h: Hey, welcome back!
[18:48] <cmaloney> What's B2?
[18:48] <cmaloney> Ah: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage.html
[18:48] <jrwren> backblaze's object storage api
[18:49] <rick_h> cmaloney:  wheeee sorry was on holiday last week and literally locked my laptop in a cabinet for the week
[18:49] <rick_h> didn't realize I got logged out until back to work today
[18:49] <cmaloney> rick_h: heh
[18:49] <cmaloney> No worries. Just wondered how (and where) you were. :)
[18:49] <rick_h> still hiding in NC
[18:51] <cmaloney> Wow. How are you both holding up?
[18:52] <rick_h> Doing not too bad all things considered. What is it, week 9 living here in an RV?
[18:52] <cmaloney> I think so
[18:54] <rick_h> how's MI holding up?
[18:54] <rick_h> the numbers game up there still seems :/
[18:54] <cmaloney> Still on lockdown
[18:54] <cmaloney> but of course now we have a bunch of walmart camo fuckwits that think they should overthrow the governor
[18:54] <cmaloney> so that's nice
[18:55] <cmaloney> Had a jitsi conference with my parents yesterday
[18:55] <jrwren> and MI Militia saying that police will not be allowed to enter a barbar shop that wants to open.
[18:55] <cmaloney> they have NFC what it's working
[18:55] <rick_h> yea, nothing like idiots destroying your remaining bits of faith in humanity
[18:55] <jrwren> the extremists are amazingly stupid.
[18:56] <cmaloney> rick_h: Pretty sure those bits were already overwritten a long time ago
[18:56] <cmaloney> probably with porn
[18:56] <cmaloney> but w/e
[18:56] <rick_h> yea, but the restore partition keeps trying to bring back a little bit to seed hope
[18:56] <rick_h> lol
[18:56] <cmaloney> JoDee's busily trying to talk my mom through Ancestry stuff
[18:56] <cmaloney> and pretty sure she's going to blow up
[18:58] <rick_h> hah, that's such a can of worms I just stay away
[18:58] <greg-g> rick_h: mostly OK. Doing a lot of gardening. But boy was it annoying moving to a new city to get good school options for Rowan and then, BAM, no school ;)
[18:59] <rick_h> greg-g:  ouch yea
[18:59] <jrwren> yay gardening. I just got 1yd of compost delivered. Am thinking I should have got 5. lol.
[18:59] <rick_h> greg-g:  the school situation sucks so bad. I don't know about over there but they're just sending home a spreadsheet with maybe 10 tasks that take 10-15min each to complete for a week
[18:59] <greg-g> jrwren: heh, we got 1.5 truckbed loads of manure, going back for another full load this week :)
[18:59] <jrwren> greg-g: wait... you moved away from petaluma?
[18:59] <greg-g> jrwren: yep! to Ojai, CA
[18:59] <jrwren> whoa, cool.
[19:00] <greg-g> rick_h: heh, well, for his school they've done the online thing but it's pretty hit/miss. We're supplementing with other things (dreambox etc)
[19:00] <jrwren> oh dang greg-g you moved from nocal to socal. that is like a whole new state.
[19:01] <greg-g> heh, it really is. So much more style (a la NYC levels) and this town is even more woo woo than the northbay was (somehow!)
[19:02] <greg-g> I've started 3 of my 4 lines with "heh" .... :(
[19:03] <jrwren> Ojai a pretty small town?
[19:04] <greg-g> yeah, officially around 6-7k, the whole area is probably around 10k. Mostly day-spas for LA folks.
[19:04] <jrwren> ha!
[19:05] <greg-g> but it's a really highly affluent area so the number of alternative school options (and even public school options) are really good
[19:06] <jrwren> sounds great.
[19:06] <jrwren> its cali... it is all affluent to me.
[19:07] <greg-g> true...
[19:07] <greg-g> man I can't wait until we can move away. I'm going to have so much equity. Too bad my spending cash isn't a ton right now :(
[19:08] <jrwren> ya know how a lot of non USA folks have this false impression of USA... everyone rich... streets paved with gold... that old trope?  Well, that is how I view Calif.
[19:08] <jrwren> what ya need spending cash for anyway? :)
[19:08] <greg-g> haha, our roads are better than Michigan's in some areas :)
[19:09] <greg-g> jrwren: no idea, it all goes to home (mortgage plus improvements) and tuition/schooling
[19:09] <greg-g> what is a "splurg"? ;)
[19:10] <jrwren> ;)
[19:10] <jrwren> well, for me... it was a new mocha pot, and 4lb of coffee from a nice roaster. That was my splurg. Does that count.
[19:11] <rick_h> oooh, roaster eh?
[19:11]  * rick_h just pays peets to roast for him
[19:11] <jrwren> no no... I didn't buy the roaster.
[19:12] <jrwren> I bought roasted beans.
[19:12] <jrwren> https://andersonscoffee.com
[19:12] <jrwren> not expensive, even after the shipping.
[19:12] <jrwren> and so far... VERY good.
[19:12] <rick_h> oh, ok. When you said "a nice roaster" I thought you meant the machine vs the beans
[19:12] <jrwren> I mean... Roos in Ann Arbor is probably just as good... :)
[19:12] <rick_h> greg-g:  the things we do for kids :P
[19:12] <jrwren> I've considered roasting my own... but decided it is not a hobby I wish to get into
[19:13] <rick_h> yea same
[19:23] <cmaloney> Ojai is where David Allen and GTD folks are
[20:09] <mrgoodcat> rick_h: grats on the new job
[20:09] <mrgoodcat> er new position anyways
[20:12] <mrgoodcat> jrwren: home roasting is a great way to save money though, even when you consider the absurd cost of roasters
[20:12] <mrgoodcat> green beans cost nothing compared to roasted beans
[20:12] <jrwren> don't tempt me ;)
[20:12] <mrgoodcat> i've been considering it myself lately. been going through ~.5 lb per week
[20:13] <mrgoodcat> I was thinking that would calm down when i went back to the office, but it's looking like my return date may actually be N/A
[20:13] <jrwren> well, i think i've just bought a few months of coffee... maybe in a few months I'll re-eval
[20:14] <mrgoodcat> even aside from the fact my office isn't opening any time soon, I think i'm going to be fully remote from here on out
[20:16] <jrwren> yay remote!
[20:16] <jrwren> remote work really is nice. I love the hours saved from no commute
[20:16] <mrgoodcat> indeed. better commute, better coffee, quieter
[20:16] <mrgoodcat> my whole team is in austria so it's not like i'm missing out on face time
[20:17] <mrgoodcat> and since i work as an open source mainatainer, most of my "coworkers" aren't even at my company anyways
[20:22] <cmaloney> I love remote work
[20:22] <cmaloney> only downside for working from home contact is vacation time costs money.
[20:28] <cmaloney> I don't know why it always feels like something is wrong whenever code starts to work
[20:29] <mrgoodcat> lol
[20:29] <cmaloney> I just converted over some code from python 2 to python3 and now I'm wary.
[20:29] <cmaloney> like, is is writing everything in Sanskrit now?
[20:30] <mrgoodcat> I was still learning python when the shift happened so I consider myself more of a native py3 person than py2
[20:30] <cmaloney> You're lucky
[20:30] <mrgoodcat> not really. I ended up writing javascript professionally
[20:30] <mrgoodcat> good thing i dodged that pythong versioning bullet tho
[20:30] <cmaloney> I mean, it's not quite the cultural whiplash that is going to descend on the Perl community whever they figure out what happens with that transition
[20:30] <cmaloney> Meh, it's not been that bad
[20:31] <mrgoodcat> neither has JS to be honest
[20:31] <cmaloney> but it does take some fundamentals and rearrange them
[20:31] <cmaloney> JS started getting useful when they stopped trying to bolt on OO to it
[20:31] <mrgoodcat> I write 99.9% typescript which removes a lot of the warts of JS
[20:31] <mrgoodcat> and I target node, which means I don't have to worry about browser compatibility most of the time
[20:31] <cmaloney> That's blessed
[20:32] <mrgoodcat> is that above or below lucky in the hierarchy
[20:32] <cmaloney> I don't mind JavaScript but the web front-end is... bleh.
[20:32] <cmaloney> It's up there with lucky
[20:32] <mrgoodcat> even when I have to target browser, I'm writing a tracing libary. don't have to worry about the dom