[00:38] <rebeltaz> so... has anyone had any issue with the latest updated mesa (or any graphics) drivers?
[00:41] <johnjay> how do I enable AltGr key in ubuntu?
[00:41] <johnjay> the only question I found is in ubuntu 16.04
[00:45] <Jordan_U> rebeltaz: Such questions rarely get responses. Try describing what problems you're having and maybe we can help you figure it out.
[00:45] <djenna_> hello I have a display problem 20.04 ubuntu looks like software (the install software app) overlays other windows but the window is invisible and only the icons show. https://pasteboard.co/J7NElqC.png  The only way I can get to an app is to go down to the dock.
[00:46] <djenna_> could ook like gimp but I dont think I have ever opened it.
[00:47] <djenna_> yep. it was ubuntu software. I closed it from the dock.
[00:47] <djenna_> so I am reporting a problem.
[00:48] <djenna_> Yep, I opened it again and it was the same icons overlaid but the window invisible.
[00:48] <Jordan_U> djenna_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1229721/software-center-becoming-fully-transperent
[01:03] <rebeltaz>  I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS with Cura v3.2.0 (via AppImage) and FreeCAD v0.18.4. Up until today, everything has been running fine. Tonight, I went to edit a sketch in FreeCAD in a previously created model. Normally, when I click on the sketch, it opens immediately. Now, it is taking 20 to 30 seconds to open. During that timeframe, I can move the mouse, but nothing responds to it or any clicks - no other program nor any
[01:03] <rebeltaz> system function. If I do click something while the system is lagging, it will react to the click(s) after that 20 to 30 second delay.
[01:03] <rebeltaz>  I though this might be a FreeCAD issue alone, but then I pulled up Cura and loaded a model into that. When I went to change the filament profile, the screen went white with relics of the Cura menu visible and again froze for 20 to 30 seconds just like FreeCAD. It also does that randomly regardless of the actions I'm trying to perform.
[01:04] <rebeltaz>  I haven't installed or changed anything, but I am wondering if this might be related to a system update maybe? I mean, nothing else has changed to cause this. I am including a log of the update history. If there is anything that might be causing this, or if anyone has any ideas, I am all ears! I really need to get these programs working again...
[01:04] <rebeltaz> I have run update/upgrade haldf a sozen times today and four times it has updated mesa drivers
[01:05] <rebeltaz> is there an issue with these graphics drivers?
[01:56] <sammyg1321> Hey Guys, is it normal that on Ubuntu my CSGO is slower then PC?
[01:56] <sammyg1321> *Windows
[02:05] <Jordan_U> sammyg1321: What brand of graphics card do you have?
[02:06] <sammyg1321> Jordan_U: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2
[02:09] <Jordan_U> sammyg1321: Are you using the proprietary drivers?
[02:11] <sammyg1321> @Jordan_U using the 440 driver right now
[02:12] <Jordan_U> sammyg1321: I'm not a gamer, but https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/5wovn1/does_csgo_run_well_on_linux_os/ seems to say that it worked well 3 years ago.
[02:16] <sammyg1321> @Jordan_U i mean it should still work no>?
[02:58] <Siecje> I am on Ubuntu 20.04. How do I run the docker daemon? https://dpaste.org/Sr1V
[02:59] <genhaoqi> Siecje: install docker-ce
[03:00] <Siecje> genhaoqi: I opened "Software" and search for "docker-ce" and it is not found.
[03:00] <Siecje> genhaoqi: How do I install docker-ce?
[03:02] <genhaoqi> open terminal, and enter "sudo apt update && sudo apt install docker-ce"
[03:04] <Siecje> : Package 'docker-ce' has no installation candidate
[03:04] <Siecje> I'm using Ubuntu 20.04.
[03:06] <genhaoqi> Siecje: https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/
[03:19] <makaveli> anyone know why after changing the monitor settings (resolution) I am now unable to use 2 displays and it always forces single display even though i have 2 and have been using 2 quite happily until i dared play with the resolution
[03:21] <makaveli> ok. so both monitors under join display were the same monitor
[03:21] <makaveli> phew
[03:22] <makaveli> no it is buggy
[03:24] <makaveli> fuck this shit im downloading arch
[03:38] <Siecje> I installed Ubuntu using ZFS. I have increased the drive size (in virtual box). I increased the Extended Partition https://i.imgur.com/1Gor3EM.png But how do I increase the file system ?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> Siecje: " zpool online -e tank sdb
[03:47] <Jordan_U> Siecje: Sorry, "zpool online -e poolname device", according to https://www.kringles.org/linux/zfs/vmware/2015/02/10/linux-zfs-resize.html .
[03:51] <Siecje> the device is /dev/sda ??
[03:52] <Siecje> Jordan_U: https://dpaste.org/59fV
[03:55] <Jordan_U> Siecje: Your rpool isn't on sda1 (and sda is your whole drive). What partition is rpool on? If you don't know, please pastebin the output of "blkid".
[03:56] <Siecje> /dev/sda7
[03:56] <Jordan_U> Siecje: Then that's the device you need to specify.
[03:57] <Siecje> Jordan_U: It ran and return code is 0 without output.
[03:57] <Siecje> But disks still shows the same.
[03:59] <Jordan_U> Siecje: You'll probably need to refresh.
[04:00] <Siecje> I re-opened the application. zpool list shows the same size.
[04:00] <Jordan_U> Siecje: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[04:01] <Siecje> https://dpaste.org/j1h7
[04:06] <Jordan_U> Siecje: It looks like you haven't actually resized sda7, it's still 28.6GB. Note that sda7 is a logical partition, which is contained in an extended partition. You didn't mention having extended any logical partitions.
[04:37] <ubone> how to exclude postfix from journalctl
[05:50] <dubdubza> hi
[05:52] <dubdubza> I'm running into a brick wall with SAMBA shares. Running 20.04 on a laptop. No problems creating a SAMBA share on the laptop and accessing it from a Win10 desktop on same network. However I cannot access Win10 from the 20.04 laptop. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:54] <dubdubza> "Unable to access location" "Failed to mount Windows share: Network dropped connection on reset"
[05:55] <dubdubza> *Win10 SAMAB shares
[05:55] <dubdubza> **SAMBA
[06:08] <bigfluff> Does anyone know if 20.04 server uses significantly more resources than 18.04?  I run Ubuntu server on a number of "low-end-boxes" (ultra-low-end yearly boxes) w/ =<512mb memory.  It seemed that a virgin 18.04 install used ~87mb memory out-of-box, 20.04 is using something in the ballpark of ~155-156mb.
[06:09] <bigfluff> Is there something dramatically different in the standard Ubuntu server distro?  I'm aware of the possibility this might be a matter also with this provider's 20.04 image.
[06:11] <bigfluff> Anddd....accidental disconnect.  Funny enough because the 20.04 box I'm provisioning is for a bouncer for this very reason :p
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> bigfluff: ubuntu server, try #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers
[06:24] <ThinkT510> bigfluff: you could read the release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes
[06:25] <hanandyn> Hi, I have been trying to play movies with dolby truehd /atmos audio but I couldn't  make it work. can anyone assist?
[06:28] <bigfluff> ThinkT510: oy, I had done some looking there already but had not seen anything of great value.  I should have mentioned that, but thank you for your help.
[06:43] <nshire> so I ran cat on a gzipped log file that isn't particularly large, but now I can't put in any input to kill it
[06:43] <nshire> ctrl-c does nothing... stuck on blinking cursor
[06:53] <ducasse> nshire: try ctrl+z
[06:55] <nshire> couldn't get any results so I just rebooted
[07:20] <klu3> Does anybody know any good linux camera software where it has "motion detection recording" capability? i have a philips camera and 2 gigs of ram is kind of laggy on windows 7.
[07:24] <tarzeau> klu3: any, with the right software, for example "motion"
[07:25] <tarzeau> klu3: there's another which is not yet in the archive https://mentors.debian.net/package/constatus based on opencv
[07:26] <klu3> tarzeau: thank you!
[07:27] <tarzeau> for motion it's a bit tricky with motion detections, it counts changed pixels, and gets triggered by day/night changes (but you can set the count number for trigers, per camera)
[07:41] <TvL2386> I installed ubuntu-20.04 a week ago and I'm running "Ubuntu on Wayland" on my laptop. Whenever I make a "Select area to grab" screenshot on my hdmi attached monitor, the app shots a section of the laptop screen instead of the monitor. Very weird
[07:41] <TvL2386> "Grab current window" does work
[07:41] <TvL2386> "Whole screen works as well"
[07:46] <TvL2386> terminator
[07:46] <TvL2386> oeps
[07:55] <leeyaa> hi guys
[07:55] <leeyaa> how to disable services restart during packages upgrade? I am on focal.
[07:59] <TvL2386> leeyaa: doesn't apt always ask you if it can restart services while installing updates?
[08:00] <leeyaa> @tv
[08:00] <leeyaa> whops TvL2386 i need it for unattented upgrades without human intervention
[08:10] <Bent0> Seems like launchpad is using the wrong cert or is that just me
[08:10] <Bent0> https://ppa.launchpad.net/
[08:12] <DJones> Bent0: I use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas that seems ok, no error messages
[08:12] <Bent0> Yeah. Apt wat giving me errors so I checked that url
[08:24] <yawkat`> hey. i have focal running inside of a qemu/kvm vm. since yesterday, persisting even through a host reboot, i am getting extremely slow make performance. from strace it seems to be waiting on a read just after a vfork. in dmesg, i see 'cgroup: fork rejected by pids controller in /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-3.scope'. what could cause this? id expect any limits or other issues i triggered yesterday not to persist through a reboot.
[08:47] <raddy> Hello
[08:48] <raddy> Is it possible to monitor recent past network traffic activity in ubuntu ?
[08:48] <raddy> Few days ago, PostgreSQL was ddos with so much of connections.
[08:49] <raddy> So, I wanted to find the source of that
[08:49] <yawkat> theres no general network monitoring unless you set something up
[08:49] <yawkat> you can check dmesg for ufw notifications for example
[08:50] <yawkat> but honestly you should probably just keep postgres firewalled off anyway
[08:50] <raddy> It is firewalled,
[08:50] <yawkat> then how was it dosed? by a source that was permitted access?
[08:51] <raddy> But ss and any third party app can go back few days ?
[08:51] <yawkat> well no, theres nothing that saves all traffic or anything by default
[08:51] <raddy> yawkat: Something like that
[08:51] <yawkat> you can configure your firewall, eg ufw or nftables to log access
[08:52] <yawkat> but it's not on by default (except ufw deny logging i think)
[08:59] <raddy> okkk
[09:16] <Bent0> Can someone explain this 127.0.0.53 business? Netplan has my internal DNS servers yet this 20.04 box cant resolve any internal hostnames. Internet domains work :-\
[09:35] <yawkat> Bent0: thats the systemd-resolved address i think
[09:36] <yawkat> 127.0.0.53 ist just an address on the loopback interface, local software can bind to it just like it can bind to 127.0.0.1
[09:36] <Bent0> etc/resolv.conf symlinked to stub-resolv.conf   i have now just manually linked it to resolv.conf. Dunno why I needed to, another 20.04 box has the same setup and works fine
[09:36] <Bent0> But cba to spent hours fixing it right now :p
[09:38] <yawkat> yes systemd-resolved is a bit brittle, ive had issues with it too
[09:38] <yawkat> just be aware that it may overwrite /etc/resolv.conf
[09:39] <mesaboogie> Bent0: pretty good article here if you wish :: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1012641/dns-set-to-systemds-127-0-0-53-how-to-change-permanently
[09:46] <eeos> hi everybody! I am trying to fin a good microblogging client that allows to manage for example twitter and linkedin accounts from my laptop, anyone hasa good clue about this? I tried choqok, corebird and mikcutter, all unsatisfactory
[09:46] <Bent0> mesaboogie tnx
[10:05] <drew071> Hello everyone. I am new to trying Linux and I am already struggling. I have installed the windows 10 ubuntu app on my PC. I am trying to get it to recognise my android devices but it doesnt list them. can anybody please help me?
[10:06] <Deano59> anyone know if there's a bug with gnome-disks? it says my SSD is 99c?
[10:06] <Deano59> other two HDD's are at 30c....
[10:07] <yawkat> what does sensors say?
[10:07] <yawkat> or smart
[10:08] <Deano59> sensors tells me my cpu/gpu, not hdd.
[10:08] <yawkat> smart then
[10:09] <Deano59> what do you mean smart?
[10:09] <yawkat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[10:11] <Deano59> doesn't state the temp...
[10:12] <yawkat> it should. does it not state it for the hdds too?
[10:13] <Deano59> nope
[10:13] <Deano59> no temp
[10:13] <yawkat> the attribute is Temperature_Celsius for me
[10:13] <yawkat> weird.
[10:13] <Deano59> nope, not here. I can output what it says...
[10:14] <Deano59> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y24vr4Xjz4/
[10:14] <yawkat> no you need to use -a
[10:14] <Deano59> sudo smartctl -a /dev/sde?
[10:14] <yawkat> yes
[10:15] <Deano59> I still don't see the temp lol
[10:16] <donix> Question about installing ubuntu through debootstrap. How to install systemd-boot for the bootloader?
[10:16] <Deano59> wait....
[10:16] <Deano59> 231 Temperature_Celsius     0x0013   100   100   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       99
[10:16] <Deano59> so that's 99 too...
[10:16] <yawkat> Deano59: well, now you know it's not a gnome-disks issue at least :)
[10:16] <yawkat> i guess the drive is just misreporting
[10:17] <yawkat> or it really is that hot
[10:17] <Deano59> if it was that hot wouldn't it shutdown?
[10:17] <yawkat> it depends on the controller. id expect it to just thermal throttle
[10:18] <yawkat> also depends on what is that hot
[10:18] <yawkat> but it's more likely to be a reporting issue.
[10:18] <yawkat> donix: just like you would on a normal system?
[10:19] <Deano59> thanks. :)
[10:19] <Deano59> handy tool that smart is. never knew about it.
[10:20] <donix> @yawkat, yes. I'm trying to get minimal ubuntu
[10:25] <eeos> Anyone who knows of a good microblogging app for ubuntu (supporting twitter)?
[10:27] <netmonk> dudes !
[10:27] <netmonk> root@citoyx:~# apt search jdk
[10:27] <netmonk> Sorting... Done
[10:27] <netmonk> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:27] <sub526> I'm having an Ubuntu PC. some of user tools needs certain shared object libraries. By default the tools picks the libraries from standard path /usr/lib/.. , instead of picking the standard libs, is it possible to link my own libs from /home/user/mylocal_libs/ path?
[10:27] <netmonk> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 20.04 LTS"
[10:27] <netmonk> what's happening there ?
[10:27] <nikolam> What Distro/OS do you recommend to run on 32-bit machine with 2G RAM? It shouodl run server and storage on it. But with long term support...
[10:27] <yawkat> sub526: you can use LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[10:28] <netmonk> May 11 12:26:50 citoyx kernel: [  899.402659] Code: 48 8b 45 18 48 8b 04 d0 48 83 c4 08 5b 5d c3 0f 1f 40 00 f3 0f 1e fa 55 48 89 fd 53 48 89 f3 48 83 ec 08 48 8b 06 48 8b 4e 08 <8b> 10 48 8d 04 d5 00 00 00 00 48 29 d0 48 8b 51 60 48 8d 04 c2 0f
[10:28] <netmonk> May 11 12:26:50 citoyx kernel: [  899.402653] apt[9372]: segfault at 7f62cdf6cfc0 ip 00007f5eae974997 sp 00007ffca17dd1e0 error 4 in libapt-pkg.so.6.0.0[7f5eae845000+147000]
[10:39] <sub526> yawkat: I ran export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/usr/my_local_libs/... after that all the commands resulting the Segmentation fault.. what could be the issue?
[10:40] <netmonk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1877987
[10:40] <yawkat> sub526: well, i guess it's linking your libs and segfaulting
[10:41] <sub526> yawkat: even running 'ls' also segfaults
[10:42] <yawkat> yes, it will also use the library path you have set
[10:43] <yawkat> if theres a libc in there, ls will use it
[10:43] <yawkat> you can check which libraries it loads using ldd /usr/bin/ls
[10:46] <sub526> yawkat: Yes it has the libc.. Basically I'm trying to use one user-defined tool which is present in Ubuntu 16.04 machine.. I noted the which libraries it loads using ldd <tool_name> and then I copied all these libs to another machine which has Ubuntu 18.04, but it resulted segfault
[11:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:10] <linuxr> hello all, I would like to install the package "postfixadmin" which can work with both mariadb and postgresql (I'm using the latter). I see however, that this package wants to pull in maria-db (which I don't) want...how do I proceed? thanks
[11:14] <yawkat> linuxr: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/postfixadmin - if you install the other possibilities you should be fine
[11:16] <linuxr> yawkat, how can I prevent that maria-db gets installed when I install the "postfixadmin" package?
[11:18] <yawkat> installing the alternative dependencies should do it
[11:25] <TomyLobo> hi
[11:25] <TomyLobo> i think synergy got my Alt key stuck
[11:25] <TomyLobo> possibly also my compose or meta key or something
[11:25] <TomyLobo> is there anything i can do to unstuck it?
[11:31] <TomyLobo> switching to another terminal and back via sudo chvt 2/1 didn't help, neither did "udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change"
[11:35] <TomyLobo> ok some fiddling around with xdotool and i can at least use alt-tab again
[11:37] <TomyLobo> ctrl-c in a terminal works, too
[11:37] <TomyLobo> but typing either gives me random garbage or nothing at all
[11:47] <befree22> help i cant connect 2 computers with lan cable between them (no router). Destination has ip 169.254..189 , ubuntu has 10.0.0.10 given by ip add 10.0.0.10 dev enp0s25
[11:48] <befree22> enp0s25: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
[11:49] <befree22> ifconfig shows both machines have an enp ip
[11:49] <befree22> why didnt it work?
[11:50] <yawkat> do you have proper routes on both sides? check ip r
[11:50] <yawkat> and then check what traffic actually appears using tcpdump or wireshark
[11:50] <befree22> 10.0.0.0/24 dev enp0s25 proto kernel scope link src 10.0.0.5 169.254.0.0/16 dev enp0s25 scope link metric 1000
[11:51] <befree22> its 0.0.5 not .10, that was a mistake
[11:51] <befree22> but still cant ping 169
[11:51] <yawkat> well, check with wireshark whether there are arp requests sent out and whether there is a response
[11:52] <befree22> i know destination IP becauses i can ssh over wlan to it and inspect its ifconfig
[11:52] <befree22> idk how
[11:53] <befree22> i cant ip ad add 10.0.0.11 (for example) on the dest machine
[11:53] <befree22> but in gentoo it just works without having to manually set ip
[11:54] <philip> you need a crossover cable
[11:54] <befree22> no i dont
[11:54] <befree22> i have done it earlier in gentoo no crossover cable
[11:55] <befree22> modern hardware doesnt need a crossover cable
[11:55] <yawkat> yea you dont need cx cables with modern endpoints
[11:55] <philip> ah
[11:55] <befree22> how do my routes look?
[11:55] <yawkat> fine
[11:55] <befree22> how can i get ubuntu to add  169.254.177.188 as its ip?
[11:57] <befree22> in ipv4 settings 'share to other computers' is enabled
[11:59] <befree22> i need to change the ip address in ubuntu how do i do that?
[11:59] <befree22> the netmask is blocking it
[12:03] <befree22> still cant ping FML
[12:04] <lmeringue> Hello, can someone please help me? Ubuntu is not detecting my Wacom tablet pad, even though it's detecting the stylus and eraser.
[12:05] <befree22> source cant ping dest or vice versa
[12:26] <sharpertool> I'm still having trouble getting a workable VNC session setup.
[12:28] <Deano59> is there a task manager that can monitor disk access? to see what's causing read/writes? my hdd is making a lot of noise and I don't know why. gnome-disks says it's OK.
[12:28] <sharpertool> I can login to the console session, which is limited to the geometry of the attached screen. I am trying to add additional server on 5901. I've tried using gnome, and xfce4. I have the xfce4 desktop starting and am able to launch apps, but it looses mouse control eventually, and some windows cannot be dragged at all.
[12:28] <Ben64> Deano59: iotop
[12:29] <sharpertool> I have to kill and re-start the vncserver to get that back.
[12:30] <Ben64> sharpertool: all you should need is some simple wm
[12:30] <Ben64> icewm comes to my mind, but there's many options
[12:33] <sharpertool> I'd like one with enough documentation ;-) -- I'm a tad confused on the relationship between say xfce4 and the window manager, versus display manager, etc.
[12:34] <Deano59> Ben64: can I monitor a certain drive with iotop?
[12:34] <sharpertool> like there is gdm3, lightdm, and I'm sure others, then you are mentioning a window manager, icewm... are these equivalent or, different functions.
[12:35] <sharpertool> okay, googling some information here
[12:46] <nael_n> I have an issue with gnome-control-center misbehaving and giving out D-Bus related messages on stderr when I run it on a remote host over ssh -X. Sadly AskUbuntu wasn't able to help - it's a fairly involved issue, to be fair (askubuntu.com/questions/1234570). Any expert in D-Bus here, by any chance? Specifically the GNOME implementation, GDBus?
[13:02] <pefi> How can I find libarpack2 on ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04? I tried  "apt-get update" and then "apt-get install libarpack2" but both systems tell me it's not there.
[13:03] <pefi> I test a script on live cd - maybe ht elive cd is my problem?
[13:04] <eeos> hi everybody, anyone who knows of a good microblogging client for Kubuntu that supports twitter? I tried choqok, mikutter and even corebird, but they are all quite buggy.
[13:04] <Captain_Proton> pefi, libarpack++2-dev - Object-oriented version of the ARPACK package (development)
[13:04] <Captain_Proton> libarpack++2c2a - Object-oriented version of the ARPACK package (runtime)
[13:04] <Captain_Proton> libarpack2 - Fortran77 subroutines to solve large scale eigenvalue problems
[13:04] <Captain_Proton> libarpack2-dev - Fortran77 subroutines to solve large scale eigenvalue problems (development)
[13:04] <nael_n> pefi: packages.ubuntu.com/libarpack says it's there, and the live cd shouldn't be a problem
[13:06] <Captain_Proton> pefi, I believe live only looks at itself, you could add the others repos
[13:07] <pefi> OK, thanks! I'll try that
[13:08] <ocean> pefi: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/libarpack2 says it's in universe repo: sudo add-apt-repository universe
[13:08] <Captain_Proton> eeos, twitdesk is a good electron app. the problem you have is they change there api's alot and limit apps from talking to it
[13:10] <Captain_Proton> eeos, sorry that tweetdesk
[13:12] <eeos> Captain_Proton: thank you! I just looked at it .... it has been bought by twitter, and does not have the desktop app anymore .... :-(
[13:12] <pefi> Capitain_Proton: 10/10 - adding "universe" solved the problem. thanks!
[13:15] <Captain_Proton> eeos, that sucks! I use the web version I like the interface.
[13:18] <fightthewalrus> How can I find out / set my GTK3 and Icon themes from the command-line? Is it possible? I'm currently using Awesome and can't find a way to do it graphically...
[13:21] <eeos> Captain_Proton: yes, I tried it it doe snot look that bad .... can you also do followers management?
[13:24] <Captain_Proton> eeos, yes Accounts > click on your name
[13:24] <Captain_Proton> eeos, problem is it opens twitter
[13:34] <dbsqwerty123> hi guys, need some help. ive been trying to run docker on 20.04 but keep getting  no such file or directory even though the file exists
[13:36] <wedr> Hello, asking about Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS Gnome3 issue with windows. Whenever you have multiple instances of the same application, say Window A and Window B, and you focus on A, then focus on B, Gnome3 would have this behavior where it would swap the top-most window in the Ubuntu Dock with whatever window you're focused on, and moves the top-most window to the second window. How can I disable this feature?
[13:36] <wedr> I really really hate the Gnome3 UI for switching app windows.
[13:37] <wedr> And no, shortcuts exists, but the main issue is not fixed. It's a fundamental flaw in the UI design in my opinion.
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> wedr: use workspaces?
[13:37] <wedr> That's a workaround.
[13:37] <wedr> I want to disable the Gnome3 behavior
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> wedr: file a wishlist !bug to share your new idea
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> wedr: there are also tweaks you can do with dconf-editor, maybe look around there first
[13:40] <Captain_Proton> wedr, check gnome extensions someone may have all ready made and ext
[13:45] <sammyg1321> Hey Guys, i changed my graphics from the Nvidia 440 driver to the xserver org nouveau driver and now i cannot change it back to the 440 driver, on Additional drivers the options are blanked out
[13:47] <sammyg1321> this is what i mean https://paste.pics/8XVFK
[13:49] <bitblit> thermald auto generated a config for me with <Temperature>*</Temperature>. I can't find out math the asterisk means.
[13:49] <bitblit> also, there is nothing in the man about what an active vs passive TripPoint is. they only doc the "max" value.
[13:52] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, They are not installed and you you removed them. sudo apt install nvidia-driver-435
[13:52] <sammyg1321> il try that
[13:53] <RoseBus> hello, i'm trying to build a project from source using qmake, make, sudo make install.
[13:53] <RoseBus> on the "make" step I'm getting error: https://bpa.st/WV2A
[13:53] <RoseBus> i thought for sure I have <stdlib.> on my system
[13:54] <eeos> Captain_Proton: yes, indeed, it does not make a huge difference from using twitter as such!
[13:54] <RoseBus> in fact using gcc i have compiled .c programs which include <stdlib.h>
[13:54] <sammyg1321> Captain_Proton: should i install any of the other ones though? im not sure why my gaming on linux lets say with CSGO is so slow
[13:56] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, personal I always download from nvidia website
[13:56] <sammyg1321> @Captain_Proton and how can i install it? is there a .run file or
[13:57] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, repo are great but with drivers you want latest and they may not be.. Yes, Linux run file
[13:57] <sammyg1321> @Captain_Proton il test out running that file
[13:57] <sammyg1321> thank you
[14:05] <wedr> lotuspsychje, Captain_Proton sure.
[14:10] <sammyg1321> Captain_Proton: im getting errors saying theres NVIDIA-Drm still running on my kernel but i already did purge and autoremove
[14:10] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, reboot
[14:11] <sammyg1321> brb
[14:11] <wedr> lotuspsychje, Captain_Proton it's fixed in the Gnome3 master branch for Ubuntu 18.04  https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/issues/639
[14:11] <wedr> but I have zero idea how to obtain this update.
[14:13] <sammyg1321> Captain_Proton: its recommending me to just use the package manager
[14:13] <Captain_Proton> wedr, one way to do it is disable the in Ubuntu and install dash to dock from gnome extensions
[14:14] <sammyg1321> yeah, im just wondering if theres an easier  way as right now within the additional driver i can get the 435, 440 and 390 driver and if that would be equivical to the website alternativ e
[14:15] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, try them if they do not work you know you have the website to fall back on
[14:15] <sammyg1321> alright il give it a spin
[14:24] <sammyg1321> Captain_Proton pc wont boot anymore
[14:26] <Captain_Proton> boot in fail safe disable all nvidia drivers then try one atime
[14:26] <sammyg1321> mind explaining how? I’m a bit lost m
[14:27] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, Recovery Mode https://www.howtogeek.com/196740/how-to-fix-an-ubuntu-system-when-it-wont-boot/
[14:27] <Assid> heya
[14:28] <sammyg1321> okay so I’m in recovery mode
[14:29] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, can you go back to Nouveau driver
[14:29] <sammyg1321> not sure how, just gives me a few options like clean, dpkg,etc
[14:30] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, remove the nvidia drivers using apt
[14:30] <sammyg1321> lemme check
[14:30] <ld50> hi, i'm trying to use the new autoinstall method introduced with 20.04. i added "autoinstall ds=nocloud-net;s=http://bla.example.com:9999/" to the grub.cfg on the 20.04 server iso and re-packaged it.
[14:30] <ld50> the iso boots but drops me straight into the manual installer. /var/log/cloud-init.log notes "no kernel command line url found"
[14:30] <sammyg1321> so purge and then auto remove?
[14:31] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, yup
[14:32] <sammyg1321> Lemme chjeck
[14:32] <ld50> the http server behind bla.example.com shows no attemts to access any files
[14:33] <sammyg1321> Captain_Proton alright so im back in my OS
[14:34] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, try one driver at a time.
[14:35] <sammyg1321> Captain_Proton grand il go with that, worst comes to worst same thing and onto the next driver
[14:35] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, yup
[14:35] <sammyg1321> Thank you kind sir
[14:35] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, no problem :)
[14:50] <sammyg1321> Captain_Proton i think i broke something within ubuntu, any driver i install now just breaks
[14:50] <ChristW> I tried adding a custom URL scheme handler for an application, but failed. Can anyone help me debug this?
[14:50] <sammyg1321> Might just rebuild Ubuntu from scratch and try again Captain_Proton
[14:51] <Captain_Proton> sammyg1321, backup your home dir and reinstall
[14:52] <sammyg1321> Captain_Proton exactly, alrighty, so weird I’m getting so much trouble getting this graphics card to work correctly on Linux :(  think I’m just in bad luck
[14:52] <m15k> Hey. Is there any ETA when 20.04 is popping up on: https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts ?
[14:57] <m15k> "Users of 18.04 LTS will be offered the
[14:57] <sammyg1321> Captain_Proton now i cant even boot into Ubuntu so i have a spare windows recovery drive, will reinstall Windows and rebuild a Ubuntu USB to reinstall
[14:59] <bjarne333> help: https://bpa.st/H4ZA
[15:00] <DJones> m15k: 18.04 won't get upgraded to 20.04 until 20.04.1 release is issued
[15:01] <bjarne333> help followup: https://bpa.st/DIWA
[15:01] <cow0w> Hi, wanted to know if it's something that familiar, I've updated to Ubuntu 20.04, it seems my "pip" within a virtualenv is now broken :O
[15:02] <DJones> m15k: Looks like its the middle of July by default https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/10/ubuntu-20-04-release-features Mentioned right near the bottom
[15:02] <m15k> DJones: I see. Thanks.
[15:03] <DJones> !ltsupgrade | m15k
[15:07] <kenperkins> I don't know when it happened, but my ubuntu known_hosts know shows some sort of hash instead of IP, it makes diagnosing entries painful, is that configurable?
[15:08] <ld50> kenperkins: yes, set "HashKnownHosts no"
[15:09] <kenperkins> I'm sure there's a good reason that's set to yes by default, reading now on how to decrypt the hash
[15:09] <kenperkins> it's probably one way tho
[15:12] <bjarne333> pls help: https://bpa.st/DIWA  im getting libssl1.1 : Breaks: python-imaplib2 (< 2.57-5) but 2.57-1ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[15:14] <oerheks> bjarne333, and on what ubuntu version?
[15:14] <bjarne333> 18.04
[15:14] <oerheks> did you propelry update before installing?
[15:15] <bjarne333> i dont remember
[15:15] <bjarne333> actually, offlineimap was already installed. i think i did apt upgrade
[15:16] <oerheks> bjarne333, weird, as openssl is currently at openssl 1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.5
[15:16] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # and myou might need to reboot
[15:17] <bjarne333> already did that. no effect.
[15:17] <bjarne333> but I was indeed told to reboot after I did that
[15:19] <oerheks> bjarne333, and what was your original command, what did you try to install?
[15:22] <oerheks> some part of your story is missing, and parts do not match up. i like to know mor details
[15:23] <bjarne333> oerheks: possibly sudo apt-get install ruby-full build-essential zlib1g-dev
[15:23] <bjarne333> I also have unattended upgrades turned on.
[15:28] <ld50> i'm still stuck with the autoinstaller
[15:31] <bjarne333> oerheks: here is an interesting apt.log where apt decided to remove offlineimap in order to solve a problem: https://bpa.st/V3QA
[15:35] <oerheks> bjarne333, what gives apt-cache policy openssl ??
[15:36] <bjarne333> oerheks: https://bpa.st/T5BQ
[15:37] <bjarne333> I see ondrej which is the repo of some php packages
[15:39] <oerheks> that is the issue, ondrej ppa overrules the original openssl..
[15:39] <oerheks> i never seen that before
[15:43] <DarkTrick> FYI: after upgrade to Ubuntu 20.04 I could neither login, nor shutdown the computer. The computer needed to be hard-shutdowned thought the shutdown key.
[15:44] <Deano59> DarkTrick: you can't upgrade to 20.04 yet.. that'll come with 20.04.1 - did you force the upgrade? why not a fresh install?
[15:46] <oerheks> probably autologin with nvidia drivers bug, see the !releasenotes
[15:46] <netmonk> hello is there a way to find the debug symbol package of libapt-pkg ?
[15:46] <ld50> ah, the problem with the cloud-init stuff only happens when booting via EFI. bios-style boot uses isolinux, EFI uses grub. grub seems to have a problem with the ; in the kernel command line...
[15:46] <netmonk> 20.04 lts ?
[15:46] <netmonk> apt search is coredumping
[15:46] <DarkTrick> Deano59, the message came
[15:46] <DarkTrick> it's also on all 3 of my xubuntu machines
[15:46] <DarkTrick> "Ubuntu 20.04 LTS is now available ..."
[15:47] <bjarne333> oerheks: I removed the ondrej/php repo and im geting a different message now: https://bpa.st/DMGQ
[15:47] <DarkTrick> *3 xubuntus and 1 ubuntu in total
[15:50] <DarkTrick> oerheks, thank you for letting me know. It would be nice, if the update would detect the drivers and delay the message (even though I guess, it's actually nVidias fault)
[15:51] <oerheks> DarkTrick, disable autologin and you should be fine
[15:52] <oerheks> bjarne333, how did you remove ondrej ppa? just deleted the entry or ppa-purge to reverse to the original packages?
[15:52] <oerheks> the last one should do the trick
[15:52] <DarkTrick> oerheks, thank you.
[15:53] <DarkTrick> Though, why would nvidia drivers prevent the computer from shutting down?
[15:53] <bjarne333> oerheks: I removed the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and did apt update
[15:53] <DarkTrick> shouldn't the kernel(?) be able to kill the machine?
[15:55] <oerheks> bjarne333, add it again, and use ppa-purge or add-apt-repository -r <ppa> .. else you keep this wrong config
[15:55] <bjarne333> oerheks: sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:ondrej/php -- didnt help :(
[16:01] <iconoclasthero> how do i go about changing icons in an icon theme?  i.e., the icon theme i want to use has icons that are not assigned for e.g., the education folder (in flashback).
[16:04] <bjarne333> oerheks: thanks! problem fully solved by using ppa-purge tool.
[16:04] <bjarne333> it downgraded a bunch of packages etc.
[16:04] <d1g1ta1> How do you change iptables INPUT ACCEPT (from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing) to BLOCK unsolicited inbound traffic?
[16:32] <ubique> Does anybody know the the commands to upgrade Ubuntu Mate 18.04 to 20.04 in terminal?
[16:35] <oerheks> !ltsupgrade
[16:35] <oerheks> i would wait ..
[16:36] <ubique> Ok  I'll stick with 18.04, thank you
[16:36] <oerheks> but if you cannot wait, prepare a fresh iso on usb first.
[16:36] <oerheks> * and read the releasenotes
[16:46] <ubique> I've got name@name-desktop:~s on my terminal, how do I go back to normal?
[16:47] <leftyfb> ubique: back to normal?
[16:48] <ubique> Normally it's just name@name without the desktop bit
[16:48] <ubique> I'm new to this stuff sorry
[16:49] <oerheks> it looks like your computername, as you have chosen during install?
[16:50] <mgedmin> it's the hostname, you can change this in System Preferences (if you like GUI) or with hostnamectl (in a terminal)
[16:50] <oerheks> !hostname
[16:50] <oerheks> 2 places..
[16:51] <mgedmin> hostnamectl should take care of everything (except maybe /etc/hosts?), I wonder why ubbotu doesn't recommend that
[16:51] <oerheks> hostnamectrl works, for this session, not permanently
[16:52] <ubique> Ok thank you
[16:52] <mgedmin> I think you're thinking about hostname(1), not hostnamectl(1)
[16:53] <netmonk> where can i find libapt-pkg6.0-dbgsym
[16:53] <netmonk> for ubuntu focal ?
[16:54] <zutat> what are you trying to fix?
[16:57] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+package/libapt-pkg6.0-dbgsym   .. take a read first; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.29
[16:58] <DocMors> in tasksel there is an option for lamp server, is there also a package to install nginx instead of apache?
[16:58] <DocMors> with all the rest still in place
[17:27] <themagician> hello
[17:29] <themagician> anybody knows how can I change SNAP confinement from Strcit to Classic?
[17:30] <oerheks> themagician, 1st place to check: softwarecenter > installed > <snapname> > settings ;; else reinstall with the --classic option
[17:31] <DocMors> has anyone had issues installing mariadb on 20.04 server? my apparmor seems to be against running it
[17:31] <DocMors> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9GzsXy3cjN/
[17:31] <DocMors> and I run only the out of the box repos
[17:32] <themagician> oerheks it only has these two options?
[17:33] <oerheks> themagician, yes?
[17:33] <themagician> oerheks can I change the permissions by commands?
[17:34] <oerheks> themagician, no, not that i know off..
[17:36] <themagician> oerheks the software has created several direcriories. If I remove it I lose all and the back up is 300Gb. Can I reinstall the snap with --classic without losing that?
[17:40] <Intelo> Hi
[17:40] <Intelo> How can I run 2 skypes on ubuntu?
[17:44] <akem> Intelo, Run a second one in a virtual machine in virtualbox for ex.
[17:44] <akem> Intelo, Maybe the web version of skype too.
[17:44] <Intelo> akem, any other solution?
[17:44] <Intelo> akem, oh ya. web based is fine
[18:07] <elliot_anderson> hey guys, im just having some trouble with colors on my desktop background
[18:07] <elliot_anderson> please refer to the image: https://imgur.com/a/NHXac7V
[18:17] <nelgin> Hi all, any clues on getting  ipv6 to work under 18.04 without netplan? It looks like the interface is configured but I cannot ping the gateway. My vps provider gave me the ipv6/64 and the gateway. I configured /etc/network/interfaces but no dice. Does anyone have a working  ipv6 with gateway config they can please share?
[18:23] <mgedmin> I have a VPS host with IPv6 (that I never use, since it's my only machine with IPv6 *sob* *sob*), here's how it looks: https://gist.github.com/mgedmin/a1073057a1d39edd4578ba7f3190088e
[18:23] <mgedmin> they gave me a /128, can you imagine that?
[18:23] <mgedmin> one measly address
[18:23] <nelgin> I only need one. :) Thanks for sharing.
[18:24] <nelgin> You could always use a HE tunnel. I use it on my home system and it works well.
[18:24] <mgedmin> sounds complicated (and I'll try not to mention that my home router runs some openwrt build from 2010)
[18:28] <nelgin> Ah, I have HE tunnel running in openwrt
[18:28] <nelgin> Just rebooted my vm so we'll see what shakes when(if) it comes up
[18:30] <fuze> My computer won’t boot with hibernate enabled since I hibernated when I had a lot of programs running. I assume I maxed out the swap and now if I don’t set grub to noresume it just loads up that corrupted hibernate. How do I fix that?
[18:32] <nelgin> Still no dice.
[18:34] <nelgin> I'm getting somewhere, I can ping my gateway now, but nothing beyond.
[18:46] <nelgin> Ok, it's working, lovely.
[19:06] <SupaYoshi> anyone here using an HP Microserver Gen10 with Hypervisor ESXI or something? I'm having issues enabling hardware passhtrough for the HDD's.
[19:11] <leftyfb> SupaYoshi: you want VMware support
[19:12] <SupaYoshi> leftyfb: yea
[19:12] <leftyfb> SupaYoshi: contact VMware for support
[19:16] <d1g1ta1> How would you modify the following to have firewall closed to externally-initiated inbound traffic?
[19:24] <linuxr> hi all. In apache's configuration layout, what is the difference between "conf" and "sites", e.g. conf-enabled and sites-enabled?
[19:25] <leftyfb> linuxr: https://serverfault.com/questions/934786/apache2-sites-enabled-vs-conf-enabled
[19:30] <linuxr> leftyfb, oh well...there's a stack site for everything it seems, thanks
[19:31] <leftyfb> linuxr: there's also apache documentation and tutorials from other sites that came up on google but I though that post was closer to your exact question. They would all answer your question just the same
[19:34] <linuxr> leftyfb, yeah thanks. It appears this is an ubuntu/debian addition and not designed by the apache people
[19:35] <ph88> ubuntu 19.10 offers me a dist upgrade but says it can only do a partial one, how can i fix this ?
[19:37] <rjwiii> In Ubuntu 20.04, How do I tell if a package is a SNAP?
[19:38] <rjwiii> Incomplete question ... allow me to rephrase ...
[19:39] <rjwiii> In the Ubuntu 20.04 app store, how do I tell if a package is a SNAP or a regular package?
[19:42] <Jordan_U> ph88: Please pastebin the exact messages you're seeing.
[19:44] <ph88> Jordan_U, i see it in the GUI i can't copy paste from there
[19:44] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | ph88
[19:45] <ph88> https://imgur.com/a/EXZ78M5
[19:48] <Jordan_U> ph88: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt upgrade" and do *not* say yes when asked if you want to continue.
[19:52] <ph88> https://bpa.st/PCEA
[19:53] <ph88> Jordan_U, ^
[19:54] <monocito> can someone help me add an repository to "apt update"?
[19:54] <Jordan_U> ph88: OK. Now please do the same with "sudo apt full-upgrade".
[19:54] <Rozha> hallo
[19:54] <Jordan_U> monocito: What are you trying to install?
[19:55] <ph88> https://bpa.st/AVMA
[19:56] <monocito> anbox, but it seems like apt cannot install from ppa:morphis/anbox-supprt/ubuntu
[19:56] <Rozha> Jordan_U:  hallo i have problem whioth mail i cand send and get localmail , get from other mail service like gmail, but i cant send mail other service ?
[19:57] <Jordan_U> ph88: Are you developing software using OpenMP? If you're not, and not trying to use some odd not-in-the-default-repository program, then you should be fine saying "yes" and letting the full upgrade remove those packages.
[19:58] <Jordan_U> Rozha: Please ask the channel as a whole rather than pinging a specific user (me in this case). Once someone responds it's of course fine and expected for you to use their nicks in your replies to them.
[19:58] <ph88> Jordan_U, ok but where are all the new packages ? almost no chances between 19.10 and 20.04
[19:58] <ph88> Need to get 5.667 kB of archives.   ???
[19:58] <Rozha> Jordan_U:  thanks
[19:58] <Jordan_U> ph88: This has nothing to do with upgrading from 19.10 to 20.04. You may have seen the two messages at the same time, but they're not related.
[19:59] <Rozha> hallo i have problem whioth mail i cand send and get localmail , get from other mail service like gmail, but i cant send mail other service ?
[19:59] <ph88> ok let me do a normal software update and then restart and try dist upgrade again
[19:59] <lordcirth> Rozha, what is your first language? You might get better help in a language-specific channel
[20:00] <Rozha> russian
[20:00] <ph88> zwrastwutje !
[20:01] <HackerII> we, "the world dont trust you anymore..... prove me wrong
[20:01] <Rozha> lordcirth: i can`t send mail to toher service mail mabe my imap or smtp pop3 not good how to check it >?
[20:01] <lordcirth> !ru | Rozha
[20:02] <Rozha> thanks
[20:03] <Jordan_U> monocito: Why not just install anbox from the default repositories?
[20:04] <HackerII> you satanist bastards..have another thing coming
[20:04] <HackerII> watch
[20:04] <lordcirth> HackerII, I think you are on the wrong channel
[20:05] <HackerII> prove me wrong
[20:05] <Jordan_U> monocito: sudo apt install anbox
[20:05] <monocito> Jordan_U: alright, that was quite helpful didnt know it was in there
[20:05] <Jordan_U> HackerII: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you'd like to discuss your ban.
[20:06] <monocito> trying to start anbox i get the error "Failed to connect to DBus"
[20:09] <shibboleth> https://christian.kellner.me/2019/07/09/bolt-0-8-with-support-for-iommu-protection/
[20:09] <shibboleth> was this backported onto the versions in use by bionic and fossa?
[20:13] <iconoclasthero> how do i go about changing icons in an icon theme?  i.e., the icon theme i want to use has icons that are not assigned for e.g., the education folder (in flashback).
[20:20] <monocito> alright now i tried switching to shashlik, which i am not able to install trying to run "dpkg -i shashlik_0.9.3.deb" returns errorcode 2
[20:36] <ph88> i get a dialog offering a 20.04 update .. however when i click "Upgrade..." nothing happens. How can i upgrade ?
[20:41] <Rozha> hallo cant connect root su
[20:41] <Rozha> it ask pass but not answer
[20:41] <Rozha> sudo command good
[20:48] <Jordan_U> Rozha: We recommend against ever setting a root password. We recommend just using sudo as needed.
[20:52] <NoiseEee> Hi folks, I have a silly question... on one server when I SSH in, I get a nice message and updates about packages needing updating, or the server needing to be rebooted. On another server (same Ubuntu OS), when I SSH in, I just get the command prompt.  How can I make that second server show me information when logging in, like the first?
[20:57] <ThinkT510> !motd
[21:11] <ptx0> if i apt install nginx while apache24 is installed and running will it stop that?
[21:11] <ptx0> i don't want it to
[21:13] <ptx0> okay it doesn't whew Not attempting to start NGINX, port 80 is already in use.
[21:19] <C0nundrum> This point directly to a bad controller or driver ? https://gist.github.com/dragonpiper/17e10c5a3814814f3eda6cf08f73c497 Started happening when i testing out gridfs in mongo
[21:19] <C0nundrum> Does this*
[21:19] <C0nundrum> Drive*
[21:49] <ubique> hello all, im getting this message when trying to update, any ideas? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQGGCVyDRc/
[21:50] <kostkon> !aptlock | ubique
[21:51] <arooni> i updated a bunch of packages on ubuntu 18.04 recently and now i'm having trouble simply ssh'ing to my mac mini:  https://gist.github.com/arooni/2a47ef9cda079d3e9ba6865d51975721
[21:51] <arooni> seems to accept the key but then hang
[21:53] <ubique> ubotto  the results  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zT8J5kH9cJ/
[21:55] <ubique> Apologies, im new to this stuff
[22:11] <tomreyn> ubique: is it fixed, yet?
[22:11] <tomreyn> ubique: ubottu is jst a bot
[22:12] <tomreyn> !ubottu
[22:19] <DoXiD> Any reason why the installer would crash if I create a custom partition table where /home is mounted from LVM encrypted disk? (ubuntu server, 20.04, updated installer when prompted on startup)
[22:19] <tomreyn> DoXiD: please report a bug and provide logs.
[22:20] <DoXiD> tomreyn: I did, but in a pinch so thought i'd ask here. The logs are massive and on a separate machine that I'm having trouble SSH:ing to right now.
[22:20] <StatelessCat> MEOW
[22:21] <DoXiD> I did create / and /boot/efi on a built in SSD, and mounted /home pointing to the encrypted LVM, all of which i created through the guide tool. Just felt weird that it crashes.
[22:21] <tomreyn> DoXiD: i'm sure th logs can be shrunk with tar + gzip pretty well.
[22:22] <DoXiD> tomreyn: More a matter of then hand-writing said gzip from the HDMI display on to this machine :)
[22:22] <Rozha> how to check po3 smpt is working ?
[22:23] <tomreyn> :) DoXiD i notice you said something about ssh not working
[22:23] <DoXiD> As I have no idea how to get that gzip to you from the isolated machine (which has internet access)
[22:23] <DoXiD> Hehe, indeed ^^
[22:23] <tomreyn> oh it has internet access?
[22:23] <DoXiD> I might be able to get it working, if it helps I'll spend a bit of time getting that up and running
[22:23] <DoXiD> Sure do :)
[22:23] <DoXiD> Just limited inbound access
[22:24] <tomreyn> cat /path/to/log | nc termbin.com 9999    is a way to exfiltrate logs.
[22:24] <tomreyn> one by one though
[22:24] <DoXiD> Neat, give me 3min and I'll sort that out for you :)
[22:26] <tomreyn> Rozha: swaks for smtp, for pop3 maybe notmuch or mutt
[22:27] <Rozha> tomreyn how to look it ?
[22:28] <tomreyn> Rozha: i don't understand, whjat do you mean?
[22:32] <Rozha> tomreyn can i pm u ?
[22:33] <DoXiD> tomreyn: You don't happen to know where the logs end up? The installer just auto-restarted into the first stage: https://hvornum.se/20200512_002750.jpg
[22:33] <tomreyn> Rozha: i prefer to do support on the channel.
[22:33] <Rozha> i need help whith smpt pop 3 imap
[22:33] <DoXiD> Nvm, /var/log/installer
[22:34] <tomreyn> DoXiD: glad you found it, since i can never remember
[22:34] <Rozha> i can receve mail but cant send
[22:35] <ubique> #tomreyn I think so thank you
[22:35] <pi0> i install an application using ppa, using gnome ubuntu 18.04 but my desktop icons are not located in traditional .local/share/applications
[22:35] <n-iCe> is it recommended to use zfs?
[22:36] <tomreyn> you're welcome, ubique.
[22:36] <pi0> any other location were they can be placed?
[22:37] <tomreyn> n-iCe: does it say "experimental"?
[22:37] <SomethingGeneric> Hi! I asked on #debian but I didn't get any help for this. I installed firmware-nonfree and the correct driver package for my wifi card, but the known (correct) password for my home wifi doesn't work. Can anyone suggest some troubleshooting beyond restarting wifi
[22:37] <n-iCe> tomreyn: yes!
[22:37] <ubique> #tomreyn I'm new and still have alot to learn, it's much better the MS Windows though!
[22:37] <n-iCe> tomreyn: have you used it? will I notice any thing in performance?
[22:37] <tomreyn> n-iCe: and that doesn't answer your question?
[22:37] <n-iCe> tomreyn: nop.
[22:38] <n-iCe> might be experimental and work really well.
[22:38] <n-iCe> or work pretty bad.
[22:38] <tomreyn> right, but if it was recomended it would not say "experimental"
[22:38] <n-iCe> so is not
[22:38] <tomreyn> also, it certainly depends on your needs.
[22:39] <tomreyn> (whether it makes sense to use it, not whether it's recomended)
[22:39] <DoXiD> tomreyn: For what it's worth, here's all the logs I could gather: https://hvornum.se/debug.log.tar.gz and here's the visual representation of the partitioning: https://hvornum.se/20200512_002718.jpg
[22:39] <tomreyn> ubique: glad you like ubuntu linux so far.
[22:39] <leftyfb> SomethingGeneric: what version of Debian are you running?
[22:39] <SomethingGeneric> leftyfb, debian 10
[22:40] <tomreyn> SomethingGeneric: try ##linux or re-ask in #debian (main channel is on oftc). this channel is about ubuntu only.
[22:41] <ubique> #tomreyn I'm running 18.4 MATE through a Pi 3 b+ , seems good so far
[22:41] <SomethingGeneric> tomreyn, thanks!
[22:42] <tomreyn> DoXiD: did you also try the default (non upgraded) installer?
[22:43] <tomreyn> DoXiD: any idea what this all numric storage media is? this looks unusual.
[22:43] <DoXiD> tomreyn: Not yet, but running it right now. It seams if I don't fiddle with the partitioning, it goes longer but crashes later on.
[22:44] <DoXiD> tomreyn: define numeric storage media? One is a built in SSD, the other an external storage device via a USB adapter :)
[22:44] <tomreyn> the 1TB is the external usb attached one, i guess?
[22:44] <DoXiD> Yepp, hybrid SSD+spinny-disk via USB
[22:44] <tomreyn> i was referring toyour screenshot https://hvornum.se/20200512_002718.jpg
[22:45] <DoXiD> Ah yea, that's the external USB heh.
[22:45] <tomreyn> i suspect that's be related
[22:47] <DoXiD> Yea now that you pointed it out, it does give me the shills.
[22:47] <DoXiD> chills*
[22:48] <DoXiD> Even without touching it tho, it crashes. Going to try without updating the installer :)
[22:49] <DoXiD> Not sure if it's related, but I used `dd if=ub.iso of=/dev/sda bs=1M` to create the bootable USB (/dev/sda really is the USB stick)
[22:50] <tomreyn> DoXiD: this should be ok. you may want to read back the data comparing it to the iso again, but i don't assume that's what's failing here.
[22:52] <tomreyn> my bet was actually on i/o errors or the like on dmesg, but there are none
[22:53] <DoXiD> tomreyn: seams like not updating the installer helps.
[22:53] <DoXiD> "copying logs to installed system" atm
[22:54] <DoXiD> aaand reboot. Ok, trying with the shady disk now. if that works, something with the new installer is wonky
[22:54] <SomethingGeneric> Hi, is there a reccomended way to remove GUI from an Ubuntu desktop install to convert it to a server install?
[22:55] <tomreyn> DoXiD: that's completely unthinkable, new software versions are always better then the previous ones, don't you read relese notes? ;-)
[22:55] <DoXiD> hahaha, oh you!
[22:55] <SomethingGeneric> tomreyn especially when they break everything about your one specific workflow :))))
[22:56] <DoXiD> SomethingGeneric: It was probably time to change workflow anyway ;D
[22:56] <SomethingGeneric> DoXiD, oh, I'm not talking from experience. If anything, I tend to break my own workflow by updating too early
[22:57] <barg> I don't understand this for statement with no 'in' and it works  ~/aa$ find . -type f -exec bash -c 'for blah; do echo x; done' bash {} +
[22:57] <SomethingGeneric> Is there some preferred way to remove all gui packages from ubuntu?
[22:57] <DoXiD> tomreyn: Wild guess, does Ubuntu support / to be btrfs? or does it need to be ext4 or something old school?
[22:58] <tomreyn> DoXiD: btrfs should work, as long as you chart around the dragons (i assume there will be none in a default btrfs installation)
[23:00] <DoXiD> Ok adding back the shady disk and it crashes again. Trying to isolate more info but it seams like that's the culprit
[23:03] <tomreyn> DoXiD: make sure to overwrite any existing storage layer structures on it at the boundaries you're setting on the installer. sometimes the installer would try to handle old but half broken structures it detects on the storage and fail as a result.
[23:03] <DoXiD> Yea i did "reformat"
[23:03] <DoXiD> every time
[23:04] <DoXiD> Strange, I can use the shady disk - as long as I don't use LVM
[23:04] <DoXiD> LVM causes all the trouble right now
[23:04] <tomreyn> just overwriting the partition table with zeros could not be enough
[23:06] <tomreyn> i.e. if you're having the partitionier create a PV on a partition (where, while the partition table is gone, the PV signature was still on disk), it might re-detect this existing PV after it created a new partition table if it's at the same partition boundaries.
[23:06] <tomreyn> i'm not sure this is actually still a problem, but it used to be
[23:07] <DoXiD> Ah, would converting between MBR and GPT solve this as a quick and dirty solution?
[23:08] <DoXiD> or would it detect it anyway
[23:10] <tomreyn> DoXiD: this might shift partition boundaries just enough, but not sure.
[23:10] <tomreyn> DoXiD: i finally found the erro message on your logs, though.     Volume group "vg0" has insufficient free space (238455 extents): 238463 required
[23:11] <tomreyn> syslog  -> May 11 22:27:47 ubuntu-server curtin_log.2310[2592]
[23:11] <tomreyn> it's probably also in one of the other logs, but that's where i found it first
[23:13] <DoXiD> oh
[23:14] <DoXiD> didn't I use 100% of the disk!?
[23:14] <DoXiD> fml, let me reboot and reinstall again
[23:15] <tomreyn> DoXiD: please also use a new encrpytion passphrase, turns out this is logged in plain text :-/
[23:15] <DoXiD> of course it is ^^ I'm glad that's from genpass random
[23:15] <DoXiD> so it wasn't my secret email password *gulp*
[23:19] <tomreyn> DoXiD: i don't think you made an error about how much size you allocated. if you had assigned too little space to a critical storage the installer should not have allowed you to install that way. and this looks more like a miscalculation (maybe mebi vs mibibytes or something)
[23:19] <DoXiD> Nope, something with LVM again, made sure to almost max out the paritions but save a little bit just in case. I'll go for vanilla ext4 all across the board and mount external USB disk to /home via ext4 and skip disk encryption for now. Poor customer has bee nwaiting for this server for a while now so kinda urgent to get it out.
[23:22] <tomreyn> DoXiD:i suspect you'll be fine if you use power of two for PV / VG block sizes. you could still pvresize (to grow it to the size of the crypto layer) post installation
[23:22] <DoXiD> humm, that might work
[23:23] <tomreyn> DoXiD: this said, i'm out, and wish you good luck. actually this bug feels like i recently read about it on the bug tracker. maybe have a look there, too, either subiquity or curtin in ubuntu
[23:23] <tomreyn> there's also #ubuntu-server
[23:23] <DoXiD> Thanks for all the help! Been a major help!
[23:23] <tomreyn> :)
[23:23] <DoXiD> Have a good evening (or morning wherever you are heh)
[23:23] <DoXiD> I'll hang around and see if I can't help someone else, to spread the help around :)
[23:44] <OERIAS> HELLO WORLD!
[23:45] <OERIAS> Hi, is there a budgie desktop channel?
[23:48] <genii> !budgie
[23:48] <Thete> for just the desktop environment?
[23:51] <tieinv> !alias
[23:51] <tieinv> hmm
[23:58] <tieinv> !alis