[01:10] <ciaobello> Hello i installed ubuntustudio 20.04 in a virtualbox. i do have troubles now to install the Virtualbox additions.
[01:13] <ciaobello> apt install virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-dkms  brings me the error that i have to explicitly select one to install. shows a list with kernel versions ..
[01:15] <ciaobello> my kernel ist 5.4.0-29-lowlatency #33
[01:15] <Eickmeyer> ciaobello: You're overcomplicating it. Open "Software and Updates" from the menu, and click on "Additional Drivers". It should show you what to install from there.
[01:16] <ciaobello> ok i have a look thks so far
[01:17] <Eickmeyer> We also don't technically support Ubuntu Studio run from a virtual machine as it has known to cause issues in the past.
[01:17] <Eickmeyer> *has been known
[01:18] <ciaobello> ok the drivers tab is empty anyway.
[02:16] <menik667766> hello, i've got some issues to configure an alesis multimix 4 usb  interface to the system, someone can help me please?
[02:16] <OvenWerks> please explain your problem
[02:19] <menik667766> i don't kno which is the right configuration for this device in the ubuntu studio controls
[02:19] <menik667766> because if i connect the headset to the computer i get a sound delay between the guitar and the system ,
[02:20] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-controls | menik667766 this might help
[02:20] <Eickmeyer> Follow that link, it should explain how to minimize that delay (called latency).
[02:20] <menik667766> and if i connect the headset to the alessis  i hear the guitar directly (clean sound ) and at the same time the sound from guitarrix
[02:20] <menik667766> it can be used any value (latency) on the configuration for this device?
[02:22] <OvenWerks> A buffer size of 64 or 128 should help
[02:22] <OvenWerks> guitarix allows changing the buffer size on the fly
[02:23] <menik667766> good i will try it
[02:23] <OvenWerks> in guitariz under engine->latency
[02:24] <menik667766> also i've got some doubt concerning if the device should be configured as alsa or jack?
[02:24] <OvenWerks> I think gutarix requires jack
[02:25] <menik667766> ok because i want to use the guitarix efects to record on ardour 5 , do you think is a good idea or better i connect the line out from my amp and avoid using software effects?
[02:27] <OvenWerks> jack allows using more than one audio device and allows one to still hear desktop apps like firefox while using applications like ardour
[02:27] <OvenWerks> it depends on which sound you personally like
[02:28] <OvenWerks> or if you want to be able to try different amp effects on the same take
[02:29] <OvenWerks> that is really an artistic choice
[02:30] <menik667766> well im using a triple rectifirer amp, so the sound in real it's really nice, but i'm new in terms of recording myself and with ubuntu studio , so i'm quiete lost.
[02:31] <OvenWerks> There are some amps (old tube amps) where I would want to mic them only. Maybe with more than one mic
[02:31] <OvenWerks> The Fishman I have here I would use direct though.
[02:32] <OvenWerks> Add the effects with software.
[02:32] <OvenWerks> but in your case if it is easier to play with the right sound in your ears then record it that way too.
[02:35] <OvenWerks> my mixer does not have a high impedance "instrument" input. so using an amp to act as a buffer sounds better.
[02:47] <menik667766> ok i will try this tips tomorrow, thank you very much for your help :-)
[02:50] <OvenWerks> your welcome
[19:11] <sakrecoer[m]> Pulled in ubuntu-studio-installer to kubuntu, installed logged in and out... But on reboot the thing is dead... What I can check for?
[19:12] <sakrecoer[m]> I get to grub that is now us branded. I can run it with generic kernel, but lowlatency is dead..
[19:13] <sakrecoer[m]> Feels like something might be off with my grub somehow
[19:16] <sakrecoer[m]> Hmm... I might have pulled in gnome thingies too... Don't remember seeing them, but the wiki page about it quite explicit about not doing that in non gnome flavours he
[19:20] <sakrecoer[m]> Tried via the "advanced ubuntu settings" in grub. It chokes at "loading initial ramdisk" sounds scary... Lol
[19:21] <Eickmeyer> sakrecoer[m]: Something indeed does seem off.
[19:21] <Eickmeyer> Did you try booting with generic?
[19:22] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[m]: I am running kubuntu 20.04 with Studio on top. I added all of the packages in ubuntustudio-installer.
[19:22] <Eickmeyer> ^ Same
[19:22] <sakrecoer[m]> <Eickmeyer "Did you try booting with generic"> Yes, that works
[19:22] <OvenWerks> lowlatency will be default so if you want to try generic feel free
[19:22] <OvenWerks> huh.
[19:23] <sakrecoer[m]> Generic works, but lowlatency doesn't
[19:23] <OvenWerks> uname -a
[19:23] <OvenWerks> Linux music 5.4.0-28-lowlatency #32-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 22 18:35:27 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:23] <sakrecoer[m]> <OvenWerks "徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸️🏴️: I am run"> I did this too
[19:23] <sakrecoer[m]> Uname -a when I boot with generic shows generic
[19:23] <Eickmeyer> Linux erich-Kubuntu 5.4.0-29-lowlatency #33-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 29 15:32:40 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:24] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[m]: which type of boot are you using?
[19:24] <sakrecoer[m]> UEFI
[19:24] <OvenWerks> (plain bios here)
[19:24] <Eickmeyer> UEFI here
[19:25] <OvenWerks> so that seems not to be the problem
[19:25] <sakrecoer[m]> Linux basspistol 5.4.0-29-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP
[19:25] <OvenWerks> I have added much software since then... build stack for everything I work on plus all the tools.
[19:26] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[m]: have you tried safe boot with LL?
[19:26] <OvenWerks> (no graphic drivers)
[19:26] <Eickmeyer> I looked for TJ- (works on the kernel and uses lowlatency all the time) but it seems he's not online.
[19:26] <sakrecoer[m]> Is there anything I can look for?
[19:27]  * Eickmeyer is using nvidia drivers with lowlatency
[19:27] <OvenWerks> are you able to boot into recovery with LL?
[19:27] <sakrecoer[m]> I have Nvidia drivers as well
[19:27] <sakrecoer[m]> <OvenWerks "are you able to boot into recove"> I'll try
[19:27] <Eickmeyer> sakrecoer[m]: Did you install the Nvidia drivers before or after you installed the kernel?
[19:27] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[m]: nvidia drivers as in they were enabled after booting into generic?
[19:28] <OvenWerks> yeah that :)
[19:28] <sakrecoer[m]> <OvenWerks "徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸️🏴️: nvidia d"> No they were automagically enabled after fresh install of kubuntu
[19:29] <sakrecoer[m]> I'm at the recovery menu for lowlatency
[19:29] <Eickmeyer> So before. Open Driver Manager from the settings, switch to the Noveau driver, then back to the recommended Nvidia driver.
[19:30] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[m]: that would seem to indicate graphic driver oddities.
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> Nvidia hell is real.
[19:32] <sakrecoer[m]> Hmm... Managed to switch to nouveau in recovery mode. Reboot but nothing happens
[19:32] <OvenWerks> which is why I have intel... also because I do not need great graphics.
[19:32] <sakrecoer[m]> Recovery mode of lowlatency
[19:33] <OvenWerks> nothing happens as in it won't boot or the boot is the same?
[19:33] <sakrecoer[m]> It won't boot
[19:35] <sakrecoer[m]> It does boot I'm generic with fugly resolution
[19:35] <sakrecoer[m]> But not in lowlatency
[19:35] <sakrecoer[m]> In* generic
[19:36] <sakrecoer[m]> I can't switch back to Nvidia.... Greyed out
[19:36] <Eickmeyer> That tells me that it's entirely possible you've had a hardware failure.
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> One thing you *might* try: complete shutdown and cold boot.
[19:38] <sakrecoer[m]> I did, and now I can pick again \o/
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> Nice! So, there might be an imminent hardware failure, or it was just stuck in RAM.
[19:39] <sakrecoer[m]> But which one? -440? -340? -390 -435 haha oh boy burn Nvidia burn!!!
[19:39] <Eickmeyer> I'd say 440.
[19:39] <sakrecoer[m]> I'll go with 440 tested
[19:39] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[19:39] <sakrecoer[m]> (but don't burn inside my machine Nvidia, don't hahaha)
[19:39] <Eickmeyer> Now, theoretically, since lowlatency is already installed, it *should* build against that.
[19:40] <Eickmeyer> as well as generic.
[19:40] <sakrecoer[m]> Holding my 8 thumbs
[19:40] <Eickmeyer> I'm crossing my 10 toes.
[19:40] <sakrecoer[m]> I love you people so much, even if it doesn't work I'm so happy you were arround... Haha
[19:40] <Eickmeyer> :D
[19:41] <sakrecoer[m]> Fail 😔
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> Oof.
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> Maybe another cold boot, this time into lowlatency?
[19:42] <sakrecoer[m]> Oh, wait...I need to do the nouveau/Nvidia switch in generic?
[19:42] <Eickmeyer> Wait... you were doing that in lowlatency? It shouldn't have mattered.
[19:43] <Eickmeyer> Maybe do-over but with a different Nvidia driver.
[19:43] <Eickmeyer> It seems to be giving you multiple options, and it could be that 440 is not the right one.
[19:43] <sakrecoer[m]> I'll try that!
[19:46] <sakrecoer[m]> I was doing it from the recovery mode of lowlatency
[19:46] <Eickmeyer> Oh, well at least you got lowlatency to boot. Just seems like we're not finding the right driver.
[20:05] <sakrecoer[m]> Things got even more broke, but it boots fine with kubuntu live USB.. I'll give another try but having nouveau Selected when I pull in UbuntuStudio oavkages
[20:07] <Eickmeyer> Might be worth an "ubuntu-bug linux-lowlatency".
[20:07] <sakrecoer[m]> Good call!!! I'm so rusty at this lol... Too late though
[20:07] <sakrecoer[m]> If it happens I definitely will do that
[20:07] <Eickmeyer> Ok, sounds good.
[20:08] <sakrecoer[m]> Is LVM something I should avoid?
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> Depends. It makes resizing partitions easier at the expense of a few other things.
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> Also allows for encryption.
[20:10] <sakrecoer[m]> I picked it because it sounds modern lol... Don't really need encryption on this machine. If it ends in others hands it's because I'm dead haha! And I might want fam to be able to rescue my art #vanity #yolo
[20:10] <Eickmeyer> Haha! There you go. :)
[20:28] <sakrecoer[m]> When untustudio-installer asks me if Jack should have real-time process priority... Should I give it?
[20:29] <sakrecoer[m]> I figure since it's not realtime kernel it should be no.. but I'm in doubt
[20:31] <Eickmeyer> Might as well.
[20:32] <sakrecoer[m]> Thanks!
[20:32] <sakrecoer[m]> It's strange how nouveau in live boot perfectly detects and manages my dual screen, but once installed, if I set it back to nouveau from the Nvidia that the installer activates, to I don't even get to chose the second screen in the settings...
[20:36] <Eickmeyer> That might be because the Nvidia drivers blacklist the noveau driver, so it goes back to vesa (ew!).
[20:38] <sakrecoer[m]> That would make sense... It's also awfully .... Unsnappy (lacking the word)
[20:42] <Eickmeyer> Sluggish?
[20:42] <sakrecoer[m]> Seems I'm very out of luck...
[20:42] <Eickmeyer> :(
[20:43] <sakrecoer[m]> This time after I pulled in ubuntustudio-installer I get no grub menu at startup... And it just hangs there in the dark 😔
[20:44] <sakrecoer[m]> But the Nvidia card works on generic, I tried to open blender and set it to use it all good
[20:44] <sakrecoer[m]> Doesn't seem to be any hardware issues...
[20:45] <sakrecoer[m]> This time I tried installing legacy bios though... My motherboard handles borh
[20:46] <Eickmeyer> You could just use generic. Most of the realtime configs are built-in. Granted, it's not optimized, but it might be a stopgap for now. Lowlatency kernels don't solve everything.
[20:48] <sakrecoer[m]> Well... This time arround I can't even boot into generic... But yeah, I'll give it another shot tomorrow and just forget about lowlatency for a while
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> The lowlatency kernel has been hit/miss the past few releases. This one is more hit than miss, but there's definitely some regression in the latest that I can't pinpoint.
[20:50] <sakrecoer[m]> It just got me that I haven't checksum med my ISO...
[20:50] <Eickmeyer> Well, they do auto-checksum anymore.
[20:51] <sakrecoer[m]> The scan at boot succeeds, but maybe just maybe I'm using a corrupt installer
[20:51] <Eickmeyer> But still not a bad thought.
[20:53] <sakrecoer[m]> It was fine...
[21:15] <sakrecoer[m]> Wowowow
[21:15] <Eickmeyer> wowow?
[21:16] <sakrecoer[m]> So this time, installing the from the live ISO, I didn't chose "install proprietary madness, wifi and drm media" option
[21:16] <sakrecoer[m]> That made it use nouveau. And then I pulled UbuntuStudio installer y and now I am on the lowlatency kernel.
[21:16] <Eickmeyer> \o/
[21:16] <sakrecoer[m]> Let's see if I break everything by enabling Nvidia now
[21:16] <Eickmeyer> GL
[21:20] <sakrecoer[m]> It wooooooeeerked!!! 🎉🎉🎉
[21:25] <sakrecoer[m]> Yaaas!!! Thanks for all your assistance!!!
[21:25] <sakrecoer[m]> So, Nvidia needs to be put in at the very last
[21:26] <sakrecoer[m]> Not sure what else is of use in the proprietary madness + drm check box, but I'll see...
[21:26] <sakrecoer[m]> Cuda works in blender ✔️ lowlatency kernel ✔️
[21:27] <Eickmeyer> NICE!
[21:27] <sakrecoer[m]> Tomorrow I begin soundcard adventures wihuu
[21:27] <Eickmeyer> \o/
[23:30] <bosibraulio> hello everyone! I'm trying to install Ubuntu Studio 20.04 in a Dell Inspiron 5759, but for some reason it won't boot from the USB. Does anyone know a workaround? I have another Dell Latitude and the USB boots just fine. I'm not sure what to do. Thank you!