| guiverc | what's an appropriate page for 18.04(lxde)->20.04 (lxqt) matching programs... anyone want to give me appropriate page url (or can pages be renamed/moved so it doesn't matter??) | 01:14 |
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| wxl | phab.l.m/w/bugs has one | 01:15 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> That would probably be the best start. ^ | 01:16 |
| guiverc | yeah I'd forgotten apt-ghetto mentioned that, we don't need a wiki then I agree | 01:16 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL36ffa167ef0a: Add start of features for how to change DNS settings] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL36ffa167ef0a | 01:44 | |
| guiverc | just completed day 5 of daily install (20.10) on d755-8 box that suffers lp 1877733 | 1851188 ; 3 of 5 days were fail "failed to create a partition table"; same install each day; all 3 fails worked with `sudo -E calamares -d` | 05:25 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1877733 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 20.10 calamares 'failed to create a partition table'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1877733 | 05:25 |
| lubot | <Leokolb> @guiverc [<guiverc> just completed day 5 of daily install (20.10) on d755-8 box that suffe …], I just tested this again on the same machine that the original bug occurred on and the install was successful with no errors. | 07:36 |
| guiverc | @Leokolb, I assume without the `sudo -E cala.. -d` successful.. please note it on 1877733; it does mean our two boxes are acting differently, which fits wxl's timing belief ! | 07:38 |
| lubot | <Leokolb> Will do. | 07:38 |
| guiverc | Thanks for notificiate @Leokolb, appreciated. | 07:46 |
| guiverc | ^ notitication... sorry | 07:48 |
| guiverc | Thanks @Leokolb | 07:52 |
| lubot | emaskell was added by: emaskell | 07:59 |
| lubot | <Leokolb> @guiverc why not try the install again and when the install now button appears wait 15 seconds before selecting? | 08:01 |
| guiverc | hold on @Leokolb, will try & help in #lubuntu.. I can't recall the install.now (I've never been consistent with starting my installs; timing meant system.timing, mboard/hdd/etc | 08:05 |
| guiverc | do you mean delay before hitting "Install Lubuntu 20.04.." on display by 15 secs... My timing of startign install would vary significantly already.. I don't think that's timing meant | 08:12 |
| guiverc | HOWEVER, I did delay ~15-20 secs & started it... and it's working??? same otherwise as prior install that failed... @Leokolb | 08:14 |
| guiverc | your prediction worked @Leokolb, I might try this a few times over tonight | 08:15 |
| lubot | <Leokolb> @guiverc -ok - I can agree it most likely has something to do with timing - just tried another old Dell laptop -no problem | 08:15 |
| guiverc | ran install again, 20-21 secs delay & it failed.. | 08:31 |
| lubot | <Leokolb> @guiverc [<guiverc> ran install again, 20-21 secs delay & it failed..], Well it was worth a try.. | 09:02 |
| guiverc | i suspect we're not going to be able to predict it.. (for one I doubt we can time each keystroke well enough..) but you've blown my `sudo -E calamares -d` more successful theory out.. it's just a re-try I now think, luck or delay.. | 09:04 |
| lubot | <Leokolb> @guiverc the irregularity makes it very difficult to find the cause.. | 09:06 |
| guiverc | yeah... but I've not looked at source code, which is next required step I suspect... it'd be nice if we could fix this for 20.04.1 (or 20.10), testing floppy fix first is easier so I plan on that first :) | 09:09 |
| lubot | Jeremiah Katamda was added by: Jeremiah Katamda | 14:07 |
| lubot | <Jeremiah Katamda> https://share.influencersearn.com/dashboard/register.php?referral=Bitingo7 join now if you want to make money guys it Legit join now this can charge you life. | 14:12 |
| lubot | <profetik777> @tsimonq2 messaged you about polos. | 16:29 |
| lubot | <RikMills> Mmmm | 16:54 |
| wxl | btw @Leokolb and @guiverc thanks for continuing to try to track that one down. i haven't said anything, but i really appreciate it | 18:10 |
| wxl | !info pcmanfm-qt | 18:39 |
| ubot93 | pcmanfm-qt (0.14.1-0ubuntu3, groovy): extremely fast and lightweight file and desktop icon manager. In component universe, is optional. Built by pcmanfm-qt. Size 167 kB / 650 kB | 18:39 |
| wxl | harumph | 18:39 |
| kc2bez | What is up wxl ? | 18:42 |
| wxl | oh just looking to see if we've got 0.15.0 yet | 18:42 |
| wxl | there's some big DND changes i discovered | 18:42 |
| kc2bez | I think it is in both of the CI branches. | 18:42 |
| kc2bez | Yeah, stable does https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/pcmanfm-qt/browse/ci%252Fstable/debian/changelog$1 and it has been building. | 18:45 |
| wxl | cool | 18:49 |
| kc2bez | Simon cleaned up a bunch of the CI stuff. | 18:49 |
| wxl | hey a thought: maybe we should drop libreoffice math | 19:46 |
| wxl | we don't have base | 19:47 |
| kc2bez | Not a terrible thought. | 19:51 |
| kc2bez | It is still available for install even if we drop it. | 19:51 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL23ac34623064: Fix captilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL23ac34623064 | 20:25 | |
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| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbd776522c149: Update locale icon] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbd776522c149 | 20:26 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfb01284825f9: Fix captilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfb01284825f9 | 20:26 | |
| lubot | <lynorian> I am not against dropping libreoffice math just tell me when we do | 20:32 |
| tsimonq2 | +1 on dropping Math. | 20:49 |
| tsimonq2 | As for 0.15, I'm working on that todya. | 20:49 |
| tsimonq2 | It was mostly done actually, I just have to do a full Lintian combthrough. | 20:49 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm really curious why things haven't been migrating from stable-ci-proposed, hm. | 20:50 |
| tsimonq2 | o_o | 20:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah, what? | 20:51 |
| tsimonq2 | OH | 20:51 |
| tsimonq2 | I disabled the nightly and forgot to put it back. | 20:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Oooooooooooooops. | 20:51 |
| tsimonq2 | I'll run a full nightly now. | 20:51 |
| tsimonq2 | First I'll update Jenkins though. | 20:52 |
| wxl | danke tsimonq2 | 21:11 |
| wxl | ok dropping math, good | 21:11 |
| wxl | what about dropping qpdfview (last commit 2014) and replacing it with the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more useful okular? | 21:12 |
| tsimonq2 | What's the delta in footprint? | 21:12 |
| wxl | well might be irrelevant given the fact that qpdfview is dead | 21:12 |
| wxl | pdfs are a moving target | 21:13 |
| wxl | hold on maybe not dead | 21:14 |
| wxl | just dead on github | 21:14 |
| wxl | confirmed | 21:15 |
| wxl | ok nevermind that | 21:15 |
| wxl | next: what about a more user friendly image editing application? draw kind of sucks. | 21:15 |
| kc2bez | Did qpdfview move? | 21:17 |
| wxl | no launchpad was always home | 21:17 |
| wxl | i just made the mistake of looking on github | 21:17 |
| kc2bez | Oh ok. | 21:17 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm going to be adding full Lintian checks to CI. | 21:20 |
| tsimonq2 | When this nightly is done, of course. | 21:20 |
| kc2bez | sweet | 21:21 |
| tsimonq2 | $ lintian -EvIL +pedantic *.dsc *.deb | 21:21 |
| tsimonq2 | After getting the debs from LP of course. | 21:21 |
| tsimonq2 | That *should* do the trick. | 21:21 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> next: what about a more user friendly image editing application? draw kind …], karita? | 21:21 |
| tsimonq2 | Plus, if there are errors, I'm assuming Lintian will lolwat (exit 1). | 21:21 |
| kc2bez | It will be nice having that there. | 21:22 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl i like krita | 21:22 |
| tsimonq2 | For sure. | 21:22 |
| wxl | maybe replace libreoffice draw with krita? | 21:22 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> mmm, 298Mb footprint krita | 21:22 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> 103 for gimp | 21:22 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> (in my system, maybe I already have some dependencies) | 21:23 |
| wxl | yeesh krita is huge compared to draw | 21:23 |
| wxl | but draw really sucks if you just want to crop something | 21:23 |
| wxl | gimp's out; gtk | 21:23 |
| kc2bez | gimp is useful but not necessarily the most intuitive. | 21:23 |
| kc2bez | and gtk | 21:23 |
| tsimonq2 | Exit code to set build unstable | 21:24 |
| tsimonq2 | ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 21:24 |
| tsimonq2 | So, instead of Lintian failing just being a complete job fail, we can just have it be marked as unstable. | 21:24 |
| kc2bez | that seems better than an outright fail. | 21:25 |
| tsimonq2 | Indeed. | 21:25 |
| RikMills | fail = lintian error currently? | 21:26 |
| tsimonq2 | Nope, we don't have Lintian built in yet. | 21:27 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm waiting for this nightly to finish before I pick a guinea pig job to test on. | 21:27 |
| RikMills | ah. I see :) | 21:27 |
| tsimonq2 | Unfortunately Riddell's guinea pigs are currently busy. | 21:27 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 21:27 |
| tsimonq2 | RikMills: Since KCI is somewhat dead, even though there *are* some Lubuntuisms in the code, I'd definitely like to work with you to get this deployed for KCI. | 21:28 |
| tsimonq2 | teward, kc2bez: Would you be able to take a look at the CI code and maybe try to correct some of my, er, lack of programming knowledge? :P | 21:29 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> $ lintian -EvIL +pedantic *.dsc *.deb], I normally do: alias evil='lintian -EvIL +pedantic *changes' | 21:30 |
| tsimonq2 | I'll be happy to clarify anything about how I've architected it. | 21:30 |
| teward | what'd you fubar now lol | 21:30 |
| teward | i require information | 21:30 |
| teward | information you have not provided | 21:30 |
| tsimonq2 | @HMollerCl: That would work, except there isn't an easy way (that I can see) to grab the amd64 changes from LP. | 21:30 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: So, YOU. | 21:30 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: There's some Python code. | 21:30 |
| teward | links? | 21:30 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: You know I'm *the* *best* at Python. | 21:31 |
| RikMills | tsimonq2: it's one possibility I am thinking of. I may be able to bodge current KCI for a bit, but something else is needed longer term | 21:31 |
| teward | or somewhere I can look | 21:31 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: (Not really.) | 21:31 |
| teward | tsimonq2: questionable, Eickmeyer is superior to you in python atm :P | 21:31 |
| teward | where's the code sit then | 21:31 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: Here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-tooling/ | 21:31 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: Here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/ | 21:31 |
| tsimonq2 | That's what currently runs the CI. | 21:31 |
| tsimonq2 | RikMills: Agreed. | 21:31 |
| Eickmeyer | Fake news: I suck at Python. | 21:32 |
| RikMills | tsimonq2: what might be nice is to set up a test jenkins to initially just do plasma builds to a ppa. 45-47 source stack would be a good proof of concept | 21:33 |
| kc2bez | I don't think I necessarily qualify as a "pro" :P | 21:33 |
| tsimonq2 | RikMills: My next task, unless teward wants to take a look, is to make it so we can do "one off" builds for specific stacks, if that makes sense. | 21:33 |
| tsimonq2 | Right now it's only hardcoded for stable and unstable. | 21:34 |
| tsimonq2 | So yes, once that's done I can spin up a PPA and give it a go. | 21:34 |
| RikMills | you mean feed it a set of release tars? | 21:34 |
| tsimonq2 | Of course, your suggestions and patches are absolutely welcome. | 21:34 |
| tsimonq2 | No, I mean set a specific config file for a specific PPA. | 21:34 |
| RikMills | right | 21:35 |
| tsimonq2 | RikMills: This is pretty hacky if you ask me: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/ | 21:35 |
| teward | tsimonq2: import git <-- where you getting git from? | 21:35 |
| teward | sh? | 21:35 |
| teward | because `git` isn't a module unless you're using a specific module and you specify no requirements.txt | 21:35 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: python3-git...? no clue | 21:35 |
| tsimonq2 | The archive package. | 21:35 |
| teward | it's gitpython | 21:36 |
| tsimonq2 | Okay. | 21:36 |
| teward | but that's not *in* every environment nor a default install | 21:36 |
| tsimonq2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 21:36 |
| tsimonq2 | True. | 21:36 |
| tsimonq2 | This is why I have you spot check these things. | 21:36 |
| tsimonq2 | I can get the code to work, I just lack some of this polish. | 21:36 |
| teward | you have a few failures here | 21:37 |
| teward | and cases which could explode badly for you | 21:37 |
| teward | vars that might not have assignments, etc. | 21:38 |
| tsimonq2 | RikMills, Eickmeyer: The ideal scenario would likely be to re-house this under something like ci.flavors.ubuntu.com and allow it as a general use piece of tooling. | 21:38 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: Precisely. | 21:38 |
| tsimonq2 | I wrote that basically in one sitting. | 21:38 |
| teward | lp_check.py -> import launchpadlib on line 19, not used | 21:38 |
| tsimonq2 | ? | 21:38 |
| teward | you have an unnecessary import | 21:38 |
| tsimonq2 | It polls LP, how is launchpadlib not used? | 21:38 |
| teward | because you override that import with a later one | 21:38 |
| kc2bez | Line 21 | 21:39 |
| teward | yep | 21:39 |
| teward | how badly do you want me to beat you over your code, basically? | 21:39 |
| RikMills | tsimonq2: could work. to be honest KCI running nightly builds was probably overkill | 21:39 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: Basically, just fix it and push it. | 21:39 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 21:39 |
| kc2bez | XD | 21:40 |
| tsimonq2 | It re-deploys itself. | 21:40 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 21:40 |
| * RikMills kicks riscv64 builders | 21:40 | |
| RikMills | slow slow :( | 21:40 |
| Eickmeyer | ^ | 21:40 |
| teward | tsimonq2: you've got some cases where you've got some major cases that could blow up in your face | 21:44 |
| teward | so i've added handlers/catches and runtime error raises in those positions | 21:44 |
| teward | or cases you run into variables that haven't been assigned or don't exist so they're init'd with None and then checked before executing things | 21:44 |
| teward | i haven't dug too deep but this probably will work (I'm not an expert at Jenkins API but I've got some big major errors that PyCharm would've warned you on lol) | 21:45 |
| teward | tsimonq2: E:NOACCESS | 21:47 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: Working on it. | 21:55 |
| teward | ok | 21:55 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: Try now. | 22:00 |
| teward | that worked ty | 22:00 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCIf7e731faaed8: Multiple issues fixed.] teward (Thomas Ward) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIf7e731faaed8 | 22:00 | |
| tsimonq2 | ofc | 22:00 |
| teward | hey look lugito pinged me | 22:01 |
| teward | *beats Lugito with a stick for reasons* | 22:01 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 22:01 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: Otherwise does the code look fairly sane? | 22:01 |
| teward | i'm not well versed in the jenkins CI but it seems so | 22:01 |
| tsimonq2 | Okay. | 22:01 |
| teward | only full test is to actually try and USE it heh | 22:03 |
| tsimonq2 | heh | 22:04 |
| tsimonq2 | Like I said, when this nightly is done we'll try it. | 22:04 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: How would you like to do 20.04 upgrades? | 22:30 |
| tsimonq2 | Will anything break if I wanted to start upgrading individual containers? | 22:31 |
| teward | prpbably | 22:31 |
| teward | phab | 22:31 |
| tsimonq2 | How so? | 22:31 |
| teward | might explode | 22:31 |
| tsimonq2 | lmao | 22:31 |
| tsimonq2 | Well, what can we do to make sure it doesn't explode? | 22:32 |
| teward | do itnpiece by piece but take snapshots first fir revert points | 22:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Can we easily "just" snapshot LXD containers? | 22:32 |
| teward | yeah i will start on that tomorrow | 22:33 |
| teward | gaming atm | 22:33 |
| tsimonq2 | Do you want to let me take a crack at it, or can I monkey with it a bit? | 22:33 |
| tsimonq2 | (Well, the way I worded that was off, but you get the point.) | 22:33 |
| teward | i mean if you want to really test clone the container and then uograde the main one | 22:35 |
| teward | keep the clone powered off | 22:35 |
| tsimonq2 | Why's that? | 22:36 |
| teward | that way ww have a simple ready to go revert point | 22:36 |
| tsimonq2 | Okay. | 22:36 |
| teward | because i dont trust snapshots alone :) | 22:36 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 22:36 |
| teward | even my VM snapshots | 22:36 |
| teward | i have full clones synced monthky for CI | 22:36 |
| tsimonq2 | Cool. | 22:36 |
| teward | tsimonq2: to be more precise of my reasoning though, a snapshot is a zfs snapshot the way we've got it set up. But that is more a disk delta than anything so a full clone makes sure we have a backup we can restore instantly simply by powering on than messing with deltas | 22:46 |
| teward | so line lxc clone phab phab-backup or something | 22:46 |
| tsimonq2 | Sounds good. | 22:47 |
| teward | then do-release-upgrade in the main container | 22:47 |
| teward | note that I recommend we wait for .1 for upgrade bugs to get ironed out | 22:47 |
| teward | there's been some wonky ones - not in containers but in general | 22:47 |
| teward | so i'm understandably cautious RE: upgrading things | 22:47 |
| teward | esp. things that rely on things like certain PHP versions, etc. | 22:47 |
| tsimonq2 | Meh. | 22:48 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: lxc-clone is part of LXC 1. | 22:49 |
| teward | i didn't say lxc-clone did i | 22:49 |
| teward | ***learn to read youngling*** | 22:49 |
| teward | `lxc clone` != `lxc-clone` | 22:50 |
| tsimonq2 | No, you said clone. | 22:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Ugh. | 22:50 |
| * tsimonq2 shoots teward for reasons | 22:50 | |
| teward | `lxc clone` is the command | 22:50 |
| teward | `lxc-clone` is NOT `lxc clone` | 22:50 |
| teward | the DASH is the difference ya ninny | 22:50 |
| tsimonq2 | $ lxc clone | 22:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Error: unknown command "clone" for "lxc" | 22:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Wrong. | 22:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Bad. | 22:50 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 22:50 |
| teward | lxc copy | 22:50 |
| teward | E:Tired | 22:50 |
| tsimonq2 | mmmmmmmkay | 22:50 |
| teward | lxc copy phab phab-backup | 22:50 |
| teward | i've had a chaotic day. *is grumpy at world* | 22:51 |
| * tsimonq2 throws a cat at teward for reasons | 22:51 | |
| teward | *shotguns the cat into the wall with an air cannon* | 22:52 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I was thinking copy was what you were wanting to say :P | 22:52 |
| teward | kc2bez: yep. | 22:52 |
| teward | E:TIRED | 22:52 |
| teward | E:CHAOSDAY | 22:52 |
| teward | E:StuffExplodedAtJobHadToFixFor8Hours | 22:52 |
| tsimonq2 | teward: FIX MORE | 22:53 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 22:53 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Sry was afk made food | 22:53 |
| tsimonq2 | Phab is going down for now. | 23:14 |
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