| callmepk | Good morning | 00:37 |
|---|---|---|
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:21 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:33 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:33 |
| duflu | First one today | 06:33 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:40 |
| callmepk | hi oSoMoN duflu didrocks | 06:43 |
| duflu | Hi didrocks and callmepk | 06:43 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:43 |
| oSoMoN | hey callmepk | 06:43 |
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| didrocks | hey callmepk, duflu, salut oSoMoN | 06:47 |
| duflu | And hi jamesh | 06:48 |
| jamesh | hi duflu | 06:48 |
| oSoMoN | hey jamesh | 06:48 |
| didrocks | good afternoon jamesh | 06:49 |
| callmepk | hi jamesh | 06:51 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 07:09 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 07:11 |
| didrocks | salut seb128, ça va ? | 07:16 |
| duflu | Morning seb128, how goes? | 07:18 |
| seb128 | hey oSoMoN, didrocks, duflu, how are you today? | 07:20 |
| oSoMoN | I'm good, how are you yourself? | 07:21 |
| duflu | seb128, got up early and did pilates, so that's unusually good. | 07:23 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, I'm fine, not fully awake yet but coffee will solve that issue :) | 07:23 |
| seb128 | duflu, ah sounds like a nice way to start the day | 07:24 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va bien, merci ;) but coffee needed here as well :) | 07:25 |
| Laney | hey ho | 08:02 |
| marcustomlinson | morning callmepk oSoMoN duflu didrocks jamesh seb128 and Laney | 08:02 |
| Laney | the Deskstreet Boys | 08:03 |
| marcustomlinson | Deskstreet's back alright! | 08:03 |
| Laney | Desk II Top | 08:03 |
| Laney | Desklife | 08:03 |
| didrocks | hey hey marcustomlinson & Laney | 08:04 |
| Laney | good morning! | 08:04 |
| Laney | I've had a lot of tea already | 08:04 |
| * Laney is sloshing around | 08:04 | |
| duflu | Morning Laney | 08:05 |
| duflu | ☕☕☕ | 08:05 |
| Laney | hey duflu | 08:06 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, marcustomlinson, how are you? | 08:06 |
| seb128 | Laney, britney didn't make you crazy yet? ;) | 08:07 |
| didrocks | was there a lot to save anyway… :p | 08:09 |
| Laney | moin seb128 | 08:09 |
| Laney | doing alright, sun is back today but it's cold | 08:09 |
| Laney | you? | 08:09 |
| * Laney stares at didrocks | 08:09 | |
| didrocks | lalala | 08:09 |
| didrocks | :) | 08:09 |
| Laney | yesterday I mostly did the easy bits | 08:10 |
| Laney | rescuing commits that could maybe go upstream and putting those on a branch | 08:10 |
| Laney | well, easy, but every one of them conflicted so | 08:10 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 08:10 |
| Laney | the next stage is to actually resolve the differences and keep what we need | 08:11 |
| seb128 | it has been raining here this night but sun is starting to show back now | 08:11 |
| Laney | all good fun! | 08:11 |
| Laney | did take the chance to learn vscode a bit better | 08:11 |
| Laney | helped me do that cherry picking quite nicely | 08:11 |
| marcustomlinson | seb128: doing good thanks | 08:11 |
| Laney | using 'gitlens' | 08:11 |
| marcustomlinson | Laney: vs code is really awesome when you get to understand it | 08:12 |
| Laney | ye | 08:12 |
| Laney | I still use the embedded terminal for too much stuff probably | 08:12 |
| Laney | but that's learning I guess | 08:12 |
| marcustomlinson | learn the layouts of tasks.json and launch.json and your world becomes a better place | 08:12 |
| didrocks | I didn’t get to force me using gitlens | 08:12 |
| didrocks | just tried few times | 08:12 |
| Laney | with that I could scroll all the way down 3 years to where we diverged | 08:13 |
| Laney | look at the deltas of all of those commits and cherry pick them to a new branch | 08:13 |
| oSoMoN | good morning Laney, marcustomlinson | 08:13 |
| Laney | then use the normal vcs stuff to resolve / commi tit | 08:13 |
| Laney | hey oSoMoN! | 08:13 |
| seb128 | tseliot, hey, unsure if you keep up with launchpad bugs activity so I'm mentioning bug #1877727 which seems another issue reported on focal where low power is not handled correctly | 08:16 |
| ubot5 | bug 1877727 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "Nvidia dGPU active despite prime-select set to Intel card" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1877727 | 08:16 |
| seb128 | tseliot, let me know if you deal with launchpad and those pings are annoying rather than useful and I will stop :) | 08:17 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, marcustomlinson, ricotz, I'm going to let that libreoffice help/config/main.xcd issue to you, I spent enough time on that and I'm not really set up to build libreoffice and I think I did what I could from poking to diff/build logs and trying some ppa builds | 08:24 |
| seb128 | (just as a FYI) | 08:24 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth ^ | 08:24 |
| seb128 | oh, she's keeping IRC connected during the night | 08:25 |
| seb128 | sorry Heather, I though you wouldn't be on at this time which is why I didn't list you | 08:25 |
| seb128 | bug #1877970 also looks like it could be due to the same problem | 08:25 |
| ubot5 | bug 1877970 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Alt-X keyboard shortcut not defined in LibreOffice 6.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1877970 | 08:26 |
| ricotz | this libreoffice help bug is really fun :\ | 11:09 |
| ricotz | hellsworth, oSoMoN, marcustomlinson, seb128, https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/commit/?h=wip/ricotz-groovy-6.4 | 11:53 |
| ricotz | PPA build for testingfollows | 11:53 |
| ricotz | https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/11285414/+listing-archive-extra | 11:55 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, nice one, let's hope this fixes the bug indeed | 12:28 |
| seb128 | ricotz, interesting, I hope it works! I though a bit it could be something like that but I didn't see something in our diff with Debian that would explain why our builds would end up differently? | 13:01 |
| ricotz | seb128, debian isn't using the "amd64" build of libreoffice-common for "all" like ubuntu does, but is doing an extra "all" build where nogui path is not triggered | 13:05 |
| ricotz | the culprit is an unset USING_X11 var | 13:06 |
| seb128 | ah, I overlooked that the all build in Debian wasn't triggering the nogui path | 13:06 |
| seb128 | ricotz, thanks for the explanation :) | 13:06 |
| ricotz | so hopefully this tweak causes the correct behaviour of the buildsys | 13:06 |
| seb128 | right, fingers crossed! | 13:07 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | seb128: any thoughts on bug 1871779 | 13:14 |
| ubot5 | bug 1871779 in snap-store "Fonts are poorly rendered in Wayland session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871779 | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | basically snaps are showing the default theme for bionic when run under wayland | 13:15 |
| kenvandine | and as soon as you open the appearance panel in g-c-c it all updates | 13:15 |
| kenvandine | so it's relying on the gsetting to get the theme rather than X | 13:15 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sorry but not offhand, might be a good one for James? | 13:19 |
| kenvandine | yeah, probably | 13:19 |
| hellsworth | good morning desktopers | 13:30 |
| oSoMoN | good morning hellsworth | 13:30 |
| hellsworth | hi there oSoMoN | 13:30 |
| seb128 | hey Heather | 13:30 |
| seb128 | ok, meeting time | 13:30 |
| didrocks | hey hellsworth | 13:30 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-05-12 | 13:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue May 12 13:31:28 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 13:31 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 13:31 |
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| seb128 | Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel (out), kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 13:31 |
| marcustomlinson | \o | 13:31 |
| Trevinho | o/ | 13:31 |
| kenvandine | o/ | 13:31 |
| hellsworth | o/ | 13:32 |
| Laney | _o_ | 13:32 |
| callmepk | o? | 13:32 |
| oSoMoN | o/ | 13:32 |
| seb128 | k, let's get started | 13:32 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-bb-bug | 13:32 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:32 |
| seb128 | no desktop section | 13:32 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:33 |
| seb128 | bug #1776447 was added there | 13:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1776447 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Bionic) "Xorg's Indirect GLX broken from upstream regression" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1776447 | 13:33 |
| seb128 | mhodson nominated it | 13:34 |
| seb128 | I suggest deleting the nomination and subscribing sponsors since there are patches attached | 13:35 |
| seb128 | well sponsors are subscribed | 13:35 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, ^ you might want to look at this one? | 13:35 |
| Laney | yes, we tagged that notfixing already, delete it | 13:35 |
| Laney | notfixing should remove things from the tracking list imo | 13:36 |
| seb128 | well we tagged ff-notfixing | 13:36 |
| seb128 | and that's bionic | 13:36 |
| seb128 | target deleted | 13:36 |
| seb128 | bug #1878155 | 13:36 |
| ubot5 | bug 1878155 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Bionic) "Thunderbird fails to connect to server in FIPS mode" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1878155 | 13:37 |
| seb128 | dgadomski seems to be on it and assigned himself now | 13:37 |
| oSoMoN | that's the thunderbird counterpart of a firefox bug that's already fixed upstream | 13:37 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, ^ you might want to coordinate for upload or help him with sponsoring | 13:37 |
| oSoMoN | yeah, will do | 13:37 |
| seb128 | thx | 13:37 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-ff-bug | 13:38 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:38 |
| seb128 | shrug, I again failed to clean up the list as I said I would do :( | 13:38 |
| seb128 | sorry team | 13:38 |
| seb128 | let's try to navigate it anyway | 13:38 |
| seb128 | bug #1877075 | 13:38 |
| ubot5 | bug 1877075 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed at xcb_io.c:260: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost'' failed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1877075 | 13:38 |
| seb128 | I would vote -1 for rls nomination | 13:40 |
| seb128 | hum, though Daniel says it's the most reported segfault on gnome-shell | 13:40 |
| seb128 | which is weird the linked error has only 1892 reports total, that seems low | 13:41 |
| seb128 | opinions? | 13:41 |
| Laney | it might be in a few buckets, there's multiple linked there | 13:41 |
| Laney | probably worth taking | 13:41 |
| tjaalton | seb128: right, bionic will get it via the hwe update | 13:42 |
| Laney | looks true to say it's #1 from https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2020.04&package=gnome-shell&period=month | 13:42 |
| hellsworth | there's a workaround but someone using nvidia can't easily use wayland so it wouldn't work for them | 13:42 |
| seb128 | also most users wouldn't know to do that workaround | 13:42 |
| seb128 | k, so yeah, on the month view the first entry for that issue has 6841 reports | 13:44 |
| seb128 | still low compared to the 50k gnome-software one toping the report but high enough | 13:44 |
| seb128 | I'm +1 though I've the feeling it's going to be one of those bugs that suck to debug, especially without reproducer | 13:44 |
| seb128 | other opinions? | 13:45 |
| hellsworth | i agree it coudl suck but might be worth it | 13:45 |
| hellsworth | +1 | 13:45 |
| kenvandine | i think we need to take it | 13:46 |
| didrocks | agreed | 13:46 |
| seb128 | k, let's do that, I will assign to Daniel since Marco is always overcommited | 13:46 |
| Laney | good plan | 13:47 |
| seb128 | bug #1865300 | 13:47 |
| ubot5 | bug 1865300 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell-hotplug-sniffer crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash() from g_hash_table_lookup() from deep_count_more_files_callback()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865300 | 13:47 |
| seb128 | Trevinho commented he though it's glib | 13:48 |
| seb128 | also unsure if has an user visible impact outside of apport, still even prompting to report crashes is annoying | 13:48 |
| seb128 | I would tend to accept the nomination | 13:48 |
| seb128 | opinions? | 13:48 |
| didrocks | same due to apport prompting | 13:49 |
| Trevinho | +1 for me as indeed is a regression | 13:49 |
| Trevinho | but, need to figure out where, as no code change happened there | 13:49 |
| Trevinho | and the tool looks sane, at least... from a quick view | 13:49 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, can you take on that one? | 13:49 |
| seb128 | doing that | 13:50 |
| seb128 | next | 13:50 |
| seb128 | bug #1876879 | 13:50 |
| ubot5 | bug 1876879 in snap-store "gnome-software cannot install classic snaps if a channel is selected" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1876879 | 13:50 |
| kenvandine | i spent time looking at that last night | 13:51 |
| seb128 | I tagged it, I think it sucks as an user experience for snaps | 13:51 |
| kenvandine | it does | 13:51 |
| Laney | rls bug for ken, +1! | 13:51 |
| seb128 | :-) | 13:51 |
| kenvandine | i think i need robert to look at it | 13:51 |
| kenvandine | but he's overloaded for the next couple weeks | 13:51 |
| kenvandine | but i think we should take it | 13:51 |
| kenvandine | get it in his queue | 13:52 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, k, doing that | 13:52 |
| seb128 | thanks | 13:52 |
| seb128 | the other ones are either the same bugs but listing another components or incomplete or assigned | 13:53 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 13:53 |
| seb128 | bug #1865379 | 13:54 |
| ubot5 | bug 1865379 in linux (Ubuntu) "Raspberry Pi 4 fails to wake at login prompt" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865379 | 13:54 |
| seb128 | him it's imcomplete | 13:54 |
| seb128 | wait | 13:55 |
| seb128 | how did I end up with that one in my copy buffer | 13:55 |
| seb128 | bug #1865379 | 13:55 |
| ubot5 | bug 1865379 in linux (Ubuntu) "Raspberry Pi 4 fails to wake at login prompt" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865379 | 13:55 |
| seb128 | I don't see evidence it's rls material at this point | 13:56 |
| seb128 | I suggest deleting the targets and asking to go through nomination with rational if wanted | 13:57 |
| kenvandine | agreed | 13:57 |
| seb128 | done | 13:58 |
| seb128 | the other ones are things fixed in pending SRUs or not properly assigned, I will clean things up | 13:59 |
| seb128 | #topic rls-gg-bug | 13:59 |
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| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 13:59 |
| seb128 | nothing to review there for today | 14:00 |
| seb128 | those are cleanups overdue like on the focal report | 14:00 |
| seb128 | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 14:00 |
| seb128 | I will untag the wslu one which is assigned ti Patrick | 14:00 |
| seb128 | and the thunderbird one we discussed | 14:00 |
| seb128 | so that's it | 14:01 |
| seb128 | #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:01 |
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| seb128 | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | 14:01 |
| seb128 | pulseaudio fail test on riscv64 which is annoying | 14:01 |
| seb128 | I will look at this one | 14:02 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, you are on the case for the firefox missing builds? | 14:02 |
| seb128 | gnome-photos / armhf needs to investigated, I will card it, feel free to grab it | 14:03 |
| seb128 | I've retried gtk/ppc but that might need investigating, I will card it if there is another failure | 14:04 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, yes, I'm on the case | 14:04 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, thanks | 14:04 |
| seb128 | oh, but gtk is unhappy on other architectures as well now | 14:04 |
| seb128 | so I guess that's a new issue and need investigation, I will card it | 14:04 |
| seb128 | feel free to grab it | 14:04 |
| didrocks | seems ignition-transport will soon migrate now that it has been retried, which will free protobuf which will free up libphonenumber it seems | 14:04 |
| oSoMoN | (struggling to get a s390x machine set up in the clouds) | 14:05 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ah, nice | 14:05 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, i see that smcv fixed the librsvg build in Debian and groovy built fine now :) | 14:06 |
| seb128 | k, should be it for this week there | 14:06 |
| seb128 | #topic AOB | 14:06 |
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| seb128 | any other topic? | 14:06 |
| didrocks | nothing for me | 14:06 |
| seb128 | seems not then | 14:07 |
| seb128 | thanks everyone, let's wrap there | 14:07 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 14:07 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue May 12 14:07:52 2020 UTC. | 14:07 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-05-12-13.31.moin.txt | 14:07 |
| Laney | cheers | 14:07 |
| marcustomlinson | thx | 14:07 |
| didrocks | thx | 14:09 |
| oSoMoN | thx | 14:09 |
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