[03:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:32] <ducasse> good morning
[07:34] <lordievader> Good morning
[18:32] <GR1M0R4CL3> hello
[18:33] <daftykins> \o
[18:35] <sarnold> hey GR1M0R4CL3
[18:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> hey !
[18:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> any discussions going on ?
[18:39] <sarnold> nothing at the moment
[19:56] <Deano59> anyone tried Ubuntu 20.04 on a RPI4 yet?
[20:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> nope. got one but didnt try yet
[20:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> was thinking of installing the pihole stuff on it
[20:00] <Deano59> I have raspbian and pihole, it's good. but I have a spare 4gb rpi4 sitting about doing nothing so might try it.
[20:01] <GR1M0R4CL3> previous versions before 20.04 could not be used ?
[20:02] <Deano59> 19.10 could.
[20:02] <Deano59> 16.04 on a pi2/3
[20:02] <Deano59> no idea about others.
[20:03] <Deano59> I ain't used ubuntu on a rpi4 for a long time lol
[20:03] <Deano59> last time was when usb/mouse was broke because of 4gb ram.
[20:03] <Deano59> that was fixed and I haven't used it since. ;P
[20:15] <daftykins> the 4 has had a pretty bad run alright, wouldn't touch one without a heatsink fitted myself
[20:55] <sarnold>  < micrex22> try installing OSS instead of ALSA :p < micrex22> you can always use JFS :3
[20:55] <sarnold> this guy sure has a theme..
[21:08] <Deano59> daftykins: my RPI4 melted my sdcard to a case. it gets way too hot.
[21:09] <Deano59> lesson learned, think I'll get the fanshim.
[21:09] <daftykins> lol, oops
[21:09] <daftykins> honestly i think it's the point where the makers are misleading people
[21:09] <daftykins> *to the point
[21:09] <Deano59> yep
[21:10] <Deano59> should never have been released without a heatsink/fan. like how the Odroid C4's SBC comes with a pre-installed heatsink.
[21:10] <oerheks> even a rasp pi 3 needs cooling, right?
[21:10] <Deano59> not really
[21:10] <Deano59> my rpi3 is on constantly, 40c. not tried under load.
[21:11] <Deano59> just pihole on it.
[21:11] <Deano59> I was getting throttling on my rpi4 because of 80c temps lol
[21:11] <Deano59> couldn't even touch it
[21:12] <akem> You need a radiator and a fan.
[21:12] <akem> I even got one on my RPI3.
[21:13] <Deano59> haha those look cool like but nah, forget that.
[21:14] <Deano59> Active Temp: 46.2 °C
[21:14] <Deano59> my RPI3 ^
[21:14] <akem> Mine has 2 little fans. With Recalbox without it, it was going up to 70C IIRC sometimes.
[21:15] <akem> I mean without the fans.
[21:15] <akem> And with it, it stays about or less than 50 like yours.
[21:16] <akem> Its a Pi 3b+.
[21:17] <Deano59> mine is the 3, not b+.
[21:19] <akem> You run Ubuntu with Gnome on it?
[21:19] <Deano59> no.
[21:20] <Deano59> atm it's got raspbian on it. using it for pihole and a znc.
[21:20] <Deano59> I wanna try 20.04 but on my rpi4.
[21:20] <Deano59> ;P
[21:21] <akem> Ha ok. Yeah, Pi 3 is probably too lightweight anyway for running Gnome. But i heard some people are running desktop stuff sometimes, but more likely with the Pi 4.
[21:22] <akem> I use mine for oldschool video games 16/32b It does very well :P
[21:47] <JanC> if the GPU in the Pi 3 is capable of running GNOME it should be okay
[21:48] <sarnold> heh, I ran unity from ubuntu dot ancient on a pandaboard es
[21:48] <sarnold> was that 12.04 LTS?
[21:48] <sarnold> it wasn';t something I'd have liked as a daily use system but I was impressed with how well it worked
[22:12] <JanC> as long as you don't try to run too many applications on it, it probably works  :)
[22:13] <sarnold> I've even heard the rpi4 is pretty good