Scary_Guy | @mrgoodcat no not the bell. Though if they included those at prompts that would be awesome I guess. It's more about it actually getting used. | 00:41 |
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greg-g | OK, it's late where ya'll are but: If I were in the market for "a thing I can put in the living room to play movies via things like Netflix and Amazon Prime but also some stuff I have locally on a NAS or laptop, whatever is easier" what should I get? | 02:50 |
greg-g | And good effing lord did we do something wrong to the humble "TV" that I now have to type all that ^ to reference what I want now. | 02:51 |
OERIAS | Hello Michigan | 02:51 |
OERIAS | may I ask a university question? | 02:52 |
OERIAS | is UMich good for CS? | 02:52 |
jrwren | yes, very. | 03:12 |
rick_h | greg-g: I've followed wirecutter lately and been done ok. Just don't get anything vizio ugh | 11:44 |
jrwren | what's wrong with vizio? | 14:02 |
cmaloney | They're a privacy nightmare, and believe that selling your information is the only way to sell cheap TVs. | 14:03 |
rick_h | ugh, I got one for the rv and it's a mess. Can't remove apps, get ads when you turn on the tv, and then there's the privacy issues/etc | 14:05 |
rick_h | and it's slow and a pita to use and /me throws tv against rocks | 14:05 |
greg-g | got it, no vizio. I was looking at the Roku TVs. There's a used 55" Samsung roku tv for sale relatively near by | 14:24 |
rick_h | honestly, the best things are getting tvs without all the crap in them and then going roku + chromecast and works a ton better. | 14:25 |
jrwren | costs more... cuz the cheapo TVs they make money on all the spying and ads that you just mentioned :( | 14:28 |
rick_h | yea, but at least then I could upgrade my roku to the new one with 4k support and such vs a whole new everything | 14:28 |
rick_h | and ime here with limited wifi the tv will choke on a disney+ movie on the app, but it'll cast just fine from my phone | 14:29 |
rick_h | so the apps don't seem to do as well with streaming qulity/adjustments | 14:29 |
cmaloney | Yeah, I'd try to get the most stripped-down TV possible and then connect a separate device | 14:38 |
cmaloney | it's when they put the device in the TV that things go horribly wrong | 14:39 |
jrwren | thankfully, that has not been my experience. | 14:48 |
jrwren | but I'm guessing it is because my TV is just old enough and yet just new enough. | 14:48 |
jrwren | and we only use the amazon app built into the TV | 14:49 |
jrwren | and the TV is wired, not wifi. | 14:49 |
rick_h | heh yea so we don't use amazon but disney+, netflix, and of course the tv doesn't have google play but that's where my movies live I pay for/rent a lot so that I can only cast from my phone | 14:50 |
jrwren | ugh :( | 14:50 |
rick_h | always a juggle of stringing wires together just right | 14:50 |
jrwren | i wonder if there is a kodi app for google play. | 14:50 |
jrwren | ugh... search for that and you get kodi on the google play app store. | 14:50 |
rick_h | yea https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.xbmc.kodi and then you can cast that using chromecast/etc it looks like | 14:51 |
jrwren | yeah, I was thinking the inverse. | 14:51 |
jrwren | kodi on an rpi running an app that lets you play google play videos. | 14:52 |
rick_h | oic | 14:52 |
jrwren | but sounds like google play videos has no api and is proprietary. | 14:52 |
rick_h | with this lock down I've been consuming enough media stuff I'm debating going back to having an android tablet | 14:52 |
rick_h | as I hate watching stuff on my phone but anything that's too adult I can't watch because I'm in this trailer with the boy. | 14:52 |
jrwren | because greg-g's original question included, "also some stuff I have locally on a NAS..>" which IMO kodi is the best for. | 14:52 |
rick_h | yea, that would help with that. I think some tvs even have plex apps but all depends | 14:53 |
greg-g | jrwren: I was looking at kodi, but all the guides on getting netflix/amazon video setup included random (and different! depending on which guide I read) github repos for the plugins :/ | 14:53 |
jrwren | right. | 14:54 |
jrwren | I'd not use it for that. | 14:54 |
greg-g | github user accounts like "XSkullKillerXX" (made up, but close) | 14:54 |
jrwren | I'd get a roku for those, and an rpi3 (because 4 gets too hot) for kodi | 14:54 |
greg-g | ahhhhh | 14:54 |
jrwren | either 4 gets too hot, or I have a bad 4, because my 4 crashes WAY too much :( | 14:55 |
jrwren | I mean... $40 for roku, $35 for rpi and you probably have an unused microsd for the rpi, and you are set. | 14:55 |
jrwren | IMO. | 14:55 |
greg-g | bummer, I just have a 4, but can get a 3 of course ;) (need to leave one avail for fun projects with rowan) | 14:55 |
jrwren | well, if your 4 isn't in use, then it is definitely worth trying with kodi. | 14:55 |
jrwren | kodi's twitch app has been nice to watch some of the recent live concerts on the TV instead of laptop. | 14:56 |
zarozombie | everyone having fun? | 17:40 |
cmaloney | So far so good. Yourself? | 17:54 |
cmaloney | Apparently FedEx is just not going to deliver our wine | 17:55 |
cmaloney | I hope the driver enjoys our rotgut | 17:55 |
zarozombie | funny fedex has refused to pick up at aaa lately... | 17:57 |
cmaloney | well, it wouldn't sting nearly as much if the FedEx truck wasn't outside our house on Sunday, stopped, and then drove off | 17:58 |
rick_h | oh noes! | 18:00 |
cmaloney | I mean, I'm not a monster. I understand that transferring things from point A to point B takes time. But seeing two trucks on Sunday with a promise that it would be delivered on Sunday, and having a delivery truck make a notable effort to stop in front of our house makes me leery that it will ever happen | 18:00 |
waldo323_ | what kind of wine? | 18:01 |
cmaloney | St. Julian | 18:02 |
cmaloney | so it's not something like 21 year old Brandy or Cognac or what-not | 18:02 |
cmaloney | or a 1944 Margaux | 18:02 |
waldo323_ | hmm i don't have any of that, and haven't been drinking what is here | 18:02 |
cmaloney | St. Julian is a Michigan winery | 18:03 |
cmaloney | so we were hoping it would show up before our anniversary (on a lark) | 18:03 |
cmaloney | Since we're not going to Frankenmuth this year | 18:03 |
waldo323_ | used to pass the signs for it along i94 | 18:03 |
waldo323_ | which day is that? | 18:03 |
cmaloney | and St.Julian makes a lot of Frankenmuth wines | 18:04 |
cmaloney | Sunday | 18:04 |
cmaloney | https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/margaux+medoc+bordeaux+france/1944 | 18:04 |
waldo323_ | while what i have isn't st julian's if i have something you could use i'd be happy to give it to you | 18:05 |
waldo323_ | (if it can be done safely) | 18:05 |
cmaloney | waldo323_: No worries. thank you | 18:05 |
cmaloney | Actually my parents got us some proseco (Kirkland) so we're all set | 18:05 |
cmaloney | It's more the principle than anything | 18:06 |
waldo323_ | ah :) | 18:06 |
cmaloney | since I tolkd JoDee that FedEx might be better than UPS ground | 18:06 |
cmaloney | and FedEx is my least favorite carrier next to DHL | 18:06 |
rick_h | oh geeze, dhl is the worst | 18:07 |
cmaloney | Yeah, DHL has a package compression algorithm. | 18:07 |
rick_h | lol, and a routing algorithm that weights towards moving away from you as much as towards you | 18:10 |
cmaloney | That's just efficiency. | 18:25 |
zarozombie | truck stop and drove by that was a good laugh for me...sorry | 18:29 |
cmaloney | No worries. My life is comedy | 18:36 |
greg-g | cmaloney: happy early anniversary :) | 18:36 |
jrwren | i used to drink a lot of St. Julian when I was younger and drank wine :) | 18:44 |
jrwren | happy anniversary cmaloney | 18:44 |
rick_h | cmaloney: congrats sir congrats | 18:52 |
cmaloney | Thanks! | 18:52 |
zarozombie | 2 more week and my first batch of homemade wine will be done :D | 18:53 |
zarozombie | how may year is it now? | 18:53 |
cmaloney | 17 years | 19:02 |
cmaloney | Though we've known each other 27 years | 19:02 |
zarozombie | 10 is good xp b4 marrage my opinion | 19:09 |
jrwren | i only lasted 6... almost 7 | 19:11 |
zarozombie | mine was 3ish lol | 19:18 |
cmaloney | I mean, it was more logistics that kept us from getting married beforehand | 19:19 |
cmaloney | she was in school so I didn't want to screw up her loans and what-not | 19:19 |
cmaloney | so we got married when she went to grad school | 19:19 |
mrgoodcat | cmaloney: o/ decade club | 20:32 |
mrgoodcat | congrats | 20:32 |
mrgoodcat | kim and I also dated for 10 years before getting married, if that wasn't clear | 20:32 |
cmaloney | <3 | 20:39 |
cmaloney | https://jitsi.decafbad.net/MichiganUsrGroupMeeting20200512 | 22:30 |
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