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Scary_Guy@mrgoodcat no not the bell.  Though if they included those at prompts that would be awesome I guess.  It's more about it actually getting used.00:41
greg-gOK, it's late where ya'll are but: If I were in the market for "a thing I can put in the living room to play movies via things like Netflix and Amazon Prime but also some stuff I have locally on a NAS or laptop, whatever is easier" what should I get?02:50
greg-gAnd good effing lord did we do something wrong to the humble "TV" that I now have to type all that ^ to reference what I want now.02:51
OERIASHello Michigan02:51
OERIASmay I ask a university question?02:52
OERIASis UMich good for CS?02:52
jrwrenyes, very.03:12
rick_hgreg-g:  I've followed wirecutter lately and been done ok. Just don't get anything vizio ugh11:44
jrwrenwhat's wrong with vizio?14:02
cmaloneyThey're a privacy nightmare, and believe that selling your information is the only way to sell cheap TVs.14:03
rick_hugh, I got one for the rv and it's a mess. Can't remove apps, get ads when you turn on the tv, and then there's the privacy issues/etc14:05
rick_hand it's slow and a pita to use and /me throws tv against rocks14:05
greg-ggot it, no vizio. I was looking at the Roku TVs. There's a used 55" Samsung roku tv for sale relatively near by14:24
rick_hhonestly, the best things are getting tvs without all the crap in them and then going roku + chromecast and works a ton better.14:25
jrwrencosts more... cuz the cheapo TVs they make money on all the spying and ads that you just mentioned :(14:28
rick_hyea, but at least then I could upgrade my roku to the new one with 4k support and such vs a whole new everything14:28
rick_hand ime here with limited wifi the tv will choke on a disney+ movie on the app, but it'll cast just fine from my phone14:29
rick_hso the apps don't seem to do as well with streaming qulity/adjustments14:29
cmaloneyYeah, I'd try to get the most stripped-down TV possible and then connect a separate device14:38
cmaloneyit's when they put the device in the TV that things go horribly wrong14:39
jrwrenthankfully, that has not been my experience.14:48
jrwrenbut I'm guessing it is because my TV is just old enough and yet just new enough.14:48
jrwrenand we only use the amazon app built into the TV14:49
jrwrenand the TV is wired, not wifi.14:49
rick_hheh yea so we don't use amazon but disney+, netflix, and of course the tv doesn't have google play but that's where my movies live I pay for/rent a lot so that I can only cast from my phone14:50
jrwrenugh :(14:50
rick_halways a juggle of stringing wires together just right14:50
jrwreni wonder if there is a kodi app for google play.14:50
jrwrenugh... search for that and you get kodi on the google play app store.14:50
rick_hyea https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.xbmc.kodi and then you can cast that using chromecast/etc it looks like14:51
jrwrenyeah, I was thinking the inverse.14:51
jrwrenkodi on an rpi running an app that lets you play google play videos.14:52
rick_hoic14:52
jrwrenbut sounds like google play videos has no api and is proprietary.14:52
rick_hwith this lock down I've been consuming enough media stuff I'm debating going back to having an android tablet14:52
rick_has I hate watching stuff on my phone but anything that's too adult I can't watch because I'm in this trailer with the boy.14:52
jrwrenbecause greg-g's original question included, "also some stuff I have locally on a NAS..>" which IMO kodi is the best for.14:52
rick_hyea, that would help with that. I think some tvs even have plex apps but all depends14:53
greg-gjrwren: I was looking at kodi, but all the guides on getting netflix/amazon video setup included random (and different! depending on which guide I read) github repos for the plugins :/14:53
jrwrenright.14:54
jrwrenI'd not use it for that.14:54
greg-ggithub user accounts like "XSkullKillerXX" (made up, but close)14:54
jrwrenI'd get a roku for those, and an rpi3 (because 4 gets too hot) for kodi14:54
greg-gahhhhh14:54
jrwreneither 4 gets too hot, or I have a bad 4, because my 4 crashes WAY too much :(14:55
jrwrenI mean... $40 for roku, $35 for rpi and you probably have an unused microsd for the rpi, and you are set.14:55
jrwrenIMO.14:55
greg-gbummer, I just have a 4, but can get a 3 of course ;) (need to leave one avail for fun projects with rowan)14:55
jrwrenwell, if your 4 isn't in use, then it is definitely worth trying with kodi.14:55
jrwrenkodi's twitch app has been nice to watch some of the recent live concerts on the TV instead of laptop.14:56
zarozombieeveryone having fun?17:40
cmaloneySo far so good. Yourself?17:54
cmaloneyApparently FedEx is just not going to deliver our wine17:55
cmaloneyI hope the driver enjoys our rotgut17:55
zarozombiefunny fedex has refused to pick up at aaa lately...17:57
cmaloneywell, it wouldn't sting nearly as much if the FedEx truck wasn't outside our house on Sunday, stopped, and then drove off17:58
rick_hoh noes!18:00
cmaloneyI mean, I'm not a monster. I understand that transferring things from point A to point B takes time. But seeing two trucks on Sunday with a promise that it would be delivered on Sunday, and having a delivery truck make a notable effort to stop in front of our house makes me leery that it will ever happen18:00
waldo323_what kind of wine?18:01
cmaloneySt. Julian18:02
cmaloneyso it's not something like 21 year old Brandy or Cognac or what-not18:02
cmaloneyor a 1944 Margaux18:02
waldo323_hmm i don't have any of that, and haven't been drinking what is here18:02
cmaloneySt. Julian is a Michigan winery18:03
cmaloneyso we were hoping it would show up before our anniversary (on a lark)18:03
cmaloneySince we're not going to Frankenmuth this year18:03
waldo323_used to pass the signs for it along i9418:03
waldo323_which day is that?18:03
cmaloneyand St.Julian makes a lot of Frankenmuth wines18:04
cmaloneySunday18:04
cmaloneyhttps://www.wine-searcher.com/find/margaux+medoc+bordeaux+france/194418:04
waldo323_while what i have isn't st julian's if i have something you could use i'd be happy to give it to you18:05
waldo323_(if it can be done safely)18:05
cmaloneywaldo323_: No worries. thank you18:05
cmaloneyActually my parents got us some proseco (Kirkland) so we're all set18:05
cmaloneyIt's more the principle than anything18:06
waldo323_ah :)18:06
cmaloneysince I tolkd JoDee that FedEx might be better than UPS ground18:06
cmaloneyand FedEx is my least favorite carrier next to DHL18:06
rick_hoh geeze, dhl is the worst18:07
cmaloneyYeah, DHL has a package compression algorithm.18:07
rick_hlol, and a routing algorithm that weights towards moving away from you as much as towards you18:10
cmaloneyThat's just efficiency.18:25
zarozombietruck stop and drove by that was a good laugh for me...sorry18:29
cmaloneyNo worries. My life is comedy18:36
greg-gcmaloney: happy early anniversary :)18:36
jrwreni used to drink a lot of St. Julian when I was younger and drank wine :)18:44
jrwrenhappy anniversary cmaloney18:44
rick_hcmaloney:  congrats sir congrats18:52
cmaloneyThanks!18:52
zarozombie2 more week and my first batch of homemade wine will be done :D18:53
zarozombiehow may year is it now?18:53
cmaloney17 years19:02
cmaloneyThough we've known each other 27 years19:02
zarozombie10 is good xp b4 marrage my opinion19:09
jrwreni only lasted 6... almost 719:11
zarozombiemine was 3ish lol19:18
cmaloneyI mean, it was more logistics that kept us from getting married beforehand19:19
cmaloneyshe was in school so I didn't want to screw up her loans and what-not19:19
cmaloneyso we got married when she went to grad school19:19
mrgoodcatcmaloney: o/ decade club20:32
mrgoodcatcongrats20:32
mrgoodcatkim and I also dated for 10 years before getting married, if that wasn't clear20:32
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cmaloneyhttps://jitsi.decafbad.net/MichiganUsrGroupMeeting2020051222:30

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