[00:41] @mrgoodcat no not the bell. Though if they included those at prompts that would be awesome I guess. It's more about it actually getting used. [02:50] OK, it's late where ya'll are but: If I were in the market for "a thing I can put in the living room to play movies via things like Netflix and Amazon Prime but also some stuff I have locally on a NAS or laptop, whatever is easier" what should I get? [02:51] And good effing lord did we do something wrong to the humble "TV" that I now have to type all that ^ to reference what I want now. [02:51] Hello Michigan [02:52] may I ask a university question? [02:52] is UMich good for CS? [03:12] yes, very. [11:44] greg-g: I've followed wirecutter lately and been done ok. Just don't get anything vizio ugh [14:02] what's wrong with vizio? [14:03] They're a privacy nightmare, and believe that selling your information is the only way to sell cheap TVs. [14:05] ugh, I got one for the rv and it's a mess. Can't remove apps, get ads when you turn on the tv, and then there's the privacy issues/etc [14:05] and it's slow and a pita to use and /me throws tv against rocks [14:24] got it, no vizio. I was looking at the Roku TVs. There's a used 55" Samsung roku tv for sale relatively near by [14:25] honestly, the best things are getting tvs without all the crap in them and then going roku + chromecast and works a ton better. [14:28] costs more... cuz the cheapo TVs they make money on all the spying and ads that you just mentioned :( [14:28] yea, but at least then I could upgrade my roku to the new one with 4k support and such vs a whole new everything [14:29] and ime here with limited wifi the tv will choke on a disney+ movie on the app, but it'll cast just fine from my phone [14:29] so the apps don't seem to do as well with streaming qulity/adjustments [14:38] Yeah, I'd try to get the most stripped-down TV possible and then connect a separate device [14:39] it's when they put the device in the TV that things go horribly wrong [14:48] thankfully, that has not been my experience. [14:48] but I'm guessing it is because my TV is just old enough and yet just new enough. [14:49] and we only use the amazon app built into the TV [14:49] and the TV is wired, not wifi. [14:50] heh yea so we don't use amazon but disney+, netflix, and of course the tv doesn't have google play but that's where my movies live I pay for/rent a lot so that I can only cast from my phone [14:50] ugh :( [14:50] always a juggle of stringing wires together just right [14:50] i wonder if there is a kodi app for google play. [14:50] ugh... search for that and you get kodi on the google play app store. [14:51] yea https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.xbmc.kodi and then you can cast that using chromecast/etc it looks like [14:51] yeah, I was thinking the inverse. [14:52] kodi on an rpi running an app that lets you play google play videos. [14:52] oic [14:52] but sounds like google play videos has no api and is proprietary. [14:52] with this lock down I've been consuming enough media stuff I'm debating going back to having an android tablet [14:52] as I hate watching stuff on my phone but anything that's too adult I can't watch because I'm in this trailer with the boy. [14:52] because greg-g's original question included, "also some stuff I have locally on a NAS..>" which IMO kodi is the best for. [14:53] yea, that would help with that. I think some tvs even have plex apps but all depends [14:53] jrwren: I was looking at kodi, but all the guides on getting netflix/amazon video setup included random (and different! depending on which guide I read) github repos for the plugins :/ [14:54] right. [14:54] I'd not use it for that. [14:54] github user accounts like "XSkullKillerXX" (made up, but close) [14:54] I'd get a roku for those, and an rpi3 (because 4 gets too hot) for kodi [14:54] ahhhhh [14:55] either 4 gets too hot, or I have a bad 4, because my 4 crashes WAY too much :( [14:55] I mean... $40 for roku, $35 for rpi and you probably have an unused microsd for the rpi, and you are set. [14:55] IMO. [14:55] bummer, I just have a 4, but can get a 3 of course ;) (need to leave one avail for fun projects with rowan) [14:55] well, if your 4 isn't in use, then it is definitely worth trying with kodi. [14:56] kodi's twitch app has been nice to watch some of the recent live concerts on the TV instead of laptop. [17:40] everyone having fun? [17:54] So far so good. Yourself? [17:55] Apparently FedEx is just not going to deliver our wine [17:55] I hope the driver enjoys our rotgut [17:57] funny fedex has refused to pick up at aaa lately... [17:58] well, it wouldn't sting nearly as much if the FedEx truck wasn't outside our house on Sunday, stopped, and then drove off [18:00] oh noes! [18:00] I mean, I'm not a monster. I understand that transferring things from point A to point B takes time. But seeing two trucks on Sunday with a promise that it would be delivered on Sunday, and having a delivery truck make a notable effort to stop in front of our house makes me leery that it will ever happen [18:01] what kind of wine? [18:02] St. Julian [18:02] so it's not something like 21 year old Brandy or Cognac or what-not [18:02] or a 1944 Margaux [18:02] hmm i don't have any of that, and haven't been drinking what is here [18:03] St. Julian is a Michigan winery [18:03] so we were hoping it would show up before our anniversary (on a lark) [18:03] Since we're not going to Frankenmuth this year [18:03] used to pass the signs for it along i94 [18:03] which day is that? [18:04] and St.Julian makes a lot of Frankenmuth wines [18:04] Sunday [18:04] https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/margaux+medoc+bordeaux+france/1944 [18:05] while what i have isn't st julian's if i have something you could use i'd be happy to give it to you [18:05] (if it can be done safely) [18:05] waldo323_: No worries. thank you [18:05] Actually my parents got us some proseco (Kirkland) so we're all set [18:06] It's more the principle than anything [18:06] ah :) [18:06] since I tolkd JoDee that FedEx might be better than UPS ground [18:06] and FedEx is my least favorite carrier next to DHL [18:07] oh geeze, dhl is the worst [18:07] Yeah, DHL has a package compression algorithm. [18:10] lol, and a routing algorithm that weights towards moving away from you as much as towards you [18:25] That's just efficiency. [18:29] truck stop and drove by that was a good laugh for me...sorry [18:36] No worries. My life is comedy [18:36] cmaloney: happy early anniversary :) [18:44] i used to drink a lot of St. Julian when I was younger and drank wine :) [18:44] happy anniversary cmaloney [18:52] cmaloney: congrats sir congrats [18:52] Thanks! [18:53] 2 more week and my first batch of homemade wine will be done :D [18:53] how may year is it now? [19:02] 17 years [19:02] Though we've known each other 27 years [19:09] 10 is good xp b4 marrage my opinion [19:11] i only lasted 6... almost 7 [19:18] mine was 3ish lol [19:19] I mean, it was more logistics that kept us from getting married beforehand [19:19] she was in school so I didn't want to screw up her loans and what-not [19:19] so we got married when she went to grad school [20:32] cmaloney: o/ decade club [20:32] congrats [20:32] kim and I also dated for 10 years before getting married, if that wasn't clear [20:39] <3 [22:30] https://jitsi.decafbad.net/MichiganUsrGroupMeeting20200512