[00:00] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> 21gb ram, nvidia gtx 1060 3g
[00:00] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> sorry 12gb ram
[00:00] <ledeni> mdknkkimqrepdopj: that is ok
[00:00] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> the cpu is i7 4790k
[00:00] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> the motherboard is a msi
[00:01] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> MS-7817
[00:01] <WatchDog> ping
[00:01] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> pong
[00:01] <ledeni> mdknkkimqrepdopj: did you install nvidia driver
[00:02] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> no i use the by default packet
[00:02] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> the games run fine
[00:02] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> i use steam
[00:02] <sarnold> ohhhh the other day someone mentioned that updating or installing the nvidia drivers fixed very long delays / stalls on their computer
[00:03] <ledeni> mdknkkimqrepdopj: ^^
[00:04] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> modinfo: filename:       /lib/modules/5.4.0-29-generic/kernel/nvidia-440/nvidia.ko
[00:04] <sarnold> mdknkkimqrepdopj: try running ubuntu-drivers install
[00:04] <sarnold> ohhh. hmm.
[00:04] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> sudo su
[00:04] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> sorry
[00:05] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> the ubuntu-drivers install can not install new packets
[00:05] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> 0 updates, 0 news, etc
[00:05] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> i need install the privative nvidia driver?
[00:06] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> the nvidia driver is the real problem?
[00:08] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> installing the privative driver ...
[00:08] <sarnold> mdknkkimqrepdopj: I'm sorry, I don't know -- I had hoped it would be easy to test, though
[00:09] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> thanks, i try test the system with privative driver, if is not work i come back
[00:11] <iobsang> hi, i'm trying to run xenial in a systemd-nspawn container on a bionic host. i can login to the machine using `sudo systemd-nspawn -b --machine nameofthecontainer`, i see all the host network interfaces, and i can ping an IP address (e.g. 8.8.8.8), but when i try to ping a domain (e.g. google.com), it says "ping: unknown host google.com". ideally,
[00:11] <iobsang> i'd like apps in the container to access the network just like apps on the host system (open connections, listen on ports, resolve dns). how do i achieve that?
[00:12] <sarnold> iobsang: how did you configure your DNS within the container?
[00:12] <Fevix> Laptop wifi not re-enabling after closing the lid and reopening
[00:14] <iobsang> sarnold: i didn't configure anything in paticular other than the root password. before that, just debootstrap. i'd like the container to use whatever my host uses (probably the dns that it got from the wifi router via dhcp)
[00:15] <sarnold> iobsang: you could probably bindmount your dns and nssswitch settings from your host into your containers, then, to keep them in sync
[00:17] <shinobi_> Is electrum available for 20.04?
[00:17] <iobsang> sarnold: i guess that's `--bind=/etc/nsswitch.conf` and some other file?
[00:21] <iobsang> sarnold: thank you :) i got ping google.com to work by appending `--bind=/etc/nsswitch.conf --bind=/etc/resolv.conf` to the systemd-nspawn command
[00:21] <sarnold> iobsang: /etc/resolv.conf too
[00:21] <sarnold> yeah :D
[00:23] <iobsang> and opening ports works as well. this seems to be exactly what i was looking for. thank you, kind internet stranger :)
[00:23] <Fevix> My laptop's wifi is not re-enabling after closing the lid and reopening
[00:24] <sarnold> iobsang: nice nice :) have fun :)
[00:32] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> thanks, i installed the nvidia driver from tty, now works fine :D
[00:33] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> the native driver from ubuntu is very unestable
[00:35] <sarnold> mdknkkimqrepdopj: cool, thanks :)
[00:35] <sharpertool> I am unable to launch a vnc session using gnome-session & on Ubuntu 20.04. Is there anyone that has some information that might help troubleshoot and fix this? I've been trying for a few days..
[00:36] <sharpertool> vncserver works fine, but nothing I've tried in xstartup works. It's also difficult to find log output for why gnome-session fails
[00:37] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> have a spanish channel for ubuntu?
[00:38] <sarnold> mdknkkimqrepdopj: #ubuntu-es -- though I don't know how active it is
[00:38] <jeremy31> mdknkkimqrepdopj:  #ubuntu-es
[00:38] <Bashing-om> !es | mdknkkimqrepdopj
[00:38] <sharpertool> This is my xstartup file https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TDFRz6Rb/xstartup
[00:38] <sarnold> sharpertool: any errors in journalctl?
[00:38] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> oooh gracias :D
[00:39] <sarnold> sharpertool: you could watch journalctl -f while trying to start it or logging in or whatever it is vnc does :)
[00:39] <sarnold> de nada :)
[00:39] <sarnold> sharpertool: how are you using this xstartup file?
[00:41] <sharpertool> using tightvncserver
[00:41] <sharpertool> watching journalctl now
[00:42] <sharpertool> I am not seeing anything in journalctl actuall
[00:42] <sharpertool> I've redirected gnome-session output to a file, but not much there either
[00:42] <sharpertool> OUtput from gnome-sessoin redirect https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZANaPaSl/gnome-session-output
[00:44] <sarnold> do you see the "starting a gnome session usinig new approach" line anywhere?
[00:45] <sharpertool> I see nothing like that
[00:46] <sharpertool> journalctl | grep 'starting.*gnome' shows nothing
[00:46] <sarnold> how about the standard output of your tightvncserver?
[00:46] <sharpertool> oh -- well, used -i and saw output, but still nothing like that.
[00:47] <sharpertool> I just see this output
[00:47] <sharpertool> output from tightvncserver https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/c0L51JBx/
[00:48] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> hi, my ubuntu again is freezee for 2 seconds :'(
[00:48] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> i using the official driver for nvidia
[00:48] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> how to can see the problem?
[00:48] <sharpertool> This is the output output of the log
[00:48] <sharpertool> Log file from tightvncserver https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/no34UOde/tightvncserver%20log
[00:49] <sarnold> sharpertool: oh wow, that's mixed news anyway :)
[00:49] <sarnold> mdknkkimqrepdopj: dang :(
[00:50] <sharpertool> Is that something useful? I don't see anything I can use in that output.
[00:51] <sharpertool> The VNC client connects, and shows a screen, but gnome-session has died, so basically nothing happens.
[00:52] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> what distro is running the vnc server? have installed graphical enviroment?
[00:52] <sarnold> sharpertool: could you try something vastly simpler? like just running xclock or xeyes?
[00:52] <sharpertool> Ubuntu 20.04
[00:52] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> as root?
[00:53] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> ubuntu server o desktop? the server version no have desktop enviroment
[00:53] <sharpertool> If I launch xclock on the console, and put it on display 2 (which is my vnc server number), it shows up on the vnc client fine
[00:54] <sharpertool> I'm not sure what you mean mdknkkimqrepdopj
[00:54] <sharpertool> I am not running as root. I could
[00:55] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> you use ubuntu server in the cloud?
[00:55] <sharpertool> well, then root would need the xstartup
[00:55] <sarnold> sharpertool: so the connection stays live, just no gnome-shell to interact with?
[00:55] <sharpertool> No, this is a physical machine here.
[00:55] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> if is a ubuntu server you can administrate using ssh and ubuntu one account
[00:55] <sharpertool> I have a MacPro with 4 monitors, but a physical Ubuntu machine next to me. Need that for buiding some hardware compiles on software that does not support Mac.. and runs too slow on a VM
[00:56] <sharpertool> Well, the server has 2 monitors on it, but I want to use it alongside my other apps that are on the mac, so would prefer to be able to vnc into it and open windows on it.
[00:57] <sharpertool> I can certainly ssh into it, no problem. I can open a VNC session on the "console". the session is fixed at the resolution of the physically attached monitors however.
[00:57] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> disable 3d support in the vm, ubuntu have problem with the vms and graphics
[00:57] <sharpertool> I need to be able to open sessions.
[00:57] <sharpertool> I'm not using a VM now.
[00:58] <sharpertool> The physical server is running builds 3 to 4 times faster.. I mean, 1min 20 seconds, versus 5min on a VM.
[00:58] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> "builds", compile apps?
[00:58] <sharpertool> ANyway, I already invested in the Ubuntu machine. It is quite a beefy box actually.. Octal core i9, 64GB memory, 2TB of NVMe disk.. etc.
[00:59] <sharpertool> Builds are for an FPGA, using Intel Quartus
[00:59] <mdknkkimqrepdopj> oooh
[00:59] <sharpertool> Only runs on Linux or Windows.
[00:59] <sharpertool> And Windows sucks, as we all know ;-)
[01:00] <sharpertool> the machine works great... I'm just trying to optimize the setup here. And, the VNC issue is cramping my style..
[01:00] <sharpertool> If I could find a darn log file... it might help.
[01:00] <sarnold> sharpertool: oooooh :)
[01:00] <sharpertool> maybe I should install kde???
[01:01] <sharpertool> sarnold: correct. gnome is crashing, but X11 is still there, apparently
[01:01] <sarnold> worht a shot, that's more interesting than xclock, probably not as heavy as gnome-shell..
[01:01] <sharpertool> I just can't get a working desktop
[01:01] <sharpertool> I've tried with xfce4 also
[01:02] <sharpertool> that launches an environmeht actually, but it has issues. Like if I launch Quartus or the Platform Designer apps (which are Java apps) I can't drag or resize them. I can do both on file maager, or terminal, etc.
[01:02] <sharpertool> But, the xfce4 desktop hangs on me after a few minutes. Locks up the mouse, NOTHING is clickable..
[01:02] <sharpertool> So, that has it's own issues.
[01:04] <sharpertool> I've googled till my fingers bleed ;-) -- but every example/discussion I've tried does not work.
[01:05] <sarnold> well, heck, we still ship fvwm..
[01:06] <sharpertool> I'm fine with whatever works really. I just need to launch those apps, that's it
[01:08] <sharpertool> A lot of docs I've found say to include this "vncconfig -iconic &" -- but vnconfig does not seem to be installed, or installable via apt
[01:09] <sarnold> $ apt-file search vncconfig
[01:09] <sarnold> tigervnc-common: /usr/bin/tigervncconfig
[01:09] <sarnold> perhaps this?
[01:10] <Fevix> My laptop's wifi is not re-enabling after closing the lid and reopening. Had this problem before, and someone here suggested I put some sorta script somewhere on the drive, but I don't recall who, what, or where
[01:10] <sharpertool> I've been using tightvnc, was afraid to install tigervnc, thought I might make matters worse
[01:10] <sarnold> sharpertool: heh, how much worse could it be? seriously though, I don't know much about the vnc servers (as you've probably guessed)
[01:13] <Steven_M> Hi, is there any way of upgrading Ubuntu 18.10 to Ubuntu 20.04, or to I need to do a fresh install? The GUI updater isn't giving me the option of upgrading.
[01:14] <sarnold> Steven_M: there's some advice on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[01:14] <sarnold> Steven_M: but since the *next* release has also hit EOL, it might still be a fair bit of work
[01:14] <sybariten> hey! I'm trying to install a printer driver from Star, TSP100. It involves compiling some code and that breaks on my Ubuntu18.    THis is the first message in the sudo make output:    src/rastertostar.c:1626:5: warning: ‘cupsRasterReadHeader’ is deprecated: Use cupsRasterReadHeader2 instead. [-Wdeprecated-declarations]
[01:14] <Fevix> Okay, since nobody's willing to help me with that, how about this one: Ubuntu Software only seems to know about the Editor's Picks. Going into any of the categories displays an empty screen, sometimes with a single box with ellipses in it.
[01:15] <sybariten> here's the complete error output: https://pastebin.com/pmnWSfcU
[01:15] <sarnold> Fevix: from a terminal, what happens if you run apt update ?
[01:16] <Steven_M> sarnold: oh okay, thanks. :-)
[01:17] <sarnold> sybariten: do you need to run ./configure or similar scripts first?
[01:18] <Fevix> sarnold: "All packages are up to date"
[01:18] <sarnold> Fevix: and it contacted a few archive mirrors, downloaded lists, etc?
[01:19] <Fevix> I tried this earlier today, didn't improve the problem
[01:19] <sybariten> sarnold: not according to the Star instructions in a PDF, no ..... (actually, that document specifically talks about ubuntu 18 when i think of it now... so it cant be that its super old either)
[01:19] <Fevix> ..... It looks like the issue is just "Needed to give it five minutes on the category screen"
[01:19] <sybariten> sarnold: shall i try that?
[01:20] <sybariten> sarnold: ah, wait, there isnt even any configure script in that path
[01:20] <rjwiii> I have a brand new System76 Thelio (desktop). In the past, if I leave my computer for a time, the monitor would eventually got to sleep. That's not happening now ... ubuntu 20.04 ... any clues?
[01:20] <sarnold> Fevix: alright, how about "snap find core" -- does that spit out a bunch of stuff?
[01:20] <Fevix> yeah
[01:20] <sarnold> sybariten: hmm..
[01:20] <mesaboogie> !fixgrub
[01:21] <sybariten> sarnold: i have been googling a bit but i get vague pointers to fixes in a couple of cases, it doesnt really work out for me. Someone seems to have changed cupsRasterReadHeader to cupsRasterReadHeader2 in a .c file but i seem to still get errors
[01:23] <sarnold> sybariten: this is the error that killed your compile: rastertostar.c:(.text.startup+0x59): undefined reference to `initializeSettings'
[01:23] <sarnold> which is an unfortunate thing to miss, that's a super-generic function name, so it's hard to know *which* initializeSettings was intended
[01:24] <sybariten> sarnold: the others (in purple, in my case) were only harmless warnings?
[01:24] <sarnold> sybariten: well, "harmless", I'm not sure, but they at least aren't the immediate problem to solve ;)
[01:25] <sybariten> sarnold: i see.
[01:34] <sybariten> Its quite odd when the documentation is written so recently. I'm literaly using the same release as they are talking about
[01:38] <sarnold> sybariten: heh, that feels like a mistake, doesn't it? :)
[01:38] <sybariten> sarnold: hmm how do you mean?
[01:39] <sarnold> sybariten: it's such a rare thing to read such recent docs, I think I'd look around for a newer version of the software :)
[01:40] <sybariten> yeah i agree, for linux and from such a big commercial company i'm almost surprised
[01:50] <quidnunc> What's the easiest way to look at an MS Access database on Ubuntu?
[01:56] <genii> LibreOffice should be able
[01:57] <sarnold> https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/base/ yeah it says something about MS Access there
[02:11] <shinobi_> what is the universe repo used for?
[02:11] <sarnold> shinobi_: packages in main are supported by canonical; packages in universe are supported by the community
[02:14] <shinobi_> Thanks
[02:14] <shinobi_> It seems like there is a lot of inaccurate info about 20.04
[02:15] <spammy> 20.04 gives you laser cat powers
[02:15] <shinobi_> The page I'm looking at says that the universe repo needs to be added to install gnome-tweak-tool, but I tried without it and it seems like it will install
[02:15] <shinobi_> I hope so, I need them
[02:18] <sarnold> Filename: pool/universe/g/gnome-tweaks/gnome-tweak-tool_3.34.0-2ubuntu1_all.deb
[02:19] <sarnold> shinobi_: it does look like that package is in universe -- iirc the installer makes it very easy to add universe to your apt sources, so it's possible you did it without too much fanfare
[02:22] <shinobi_> sweet
[02:35] <flying_sausages> Anyone know if the Network Manager is supposed to have Wireguard as a VPN option on 20.04?
[02:35] <flying_sausages> Can't find it there, and not sure what I need to get it to show up there, I have WG installed already
[02:43] <sarnold> flying_sausages: "get it to show up there" -- are you looking in a gui dialog box? or the command line interfaces?
[02:43] <sarnold> flying_sausages: looking at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/network-manager-applet/-/commits/master/ I think the GUI thing was only committed three weeks ago, way too late to make it into 20.04
[02:44] <sarnold> flying_sausages: I haven't tested this out yet, but there's a bunch of networkmanager commands to manage wireguard here https://blogs.gnome.org/thaller/2019/03/15/wireguard-in-networkmanager/
[02:53] <flying_sausages> sarnold, yeah sorry meant the GUI nm sorry should have specified
[02:53] <flying_sausages> I read the blog post and noticed it mentioned a lot had to be done
[02:53] <flying_sausages> but I _swear_ I saw it in the UI sometime ago somewhere else
[02:54] <flying_sausages> I'm curious if I could get the network manager applet to build from source ihihi
[02:56] <josephillips> hey
[02:56] <josephillips> im facing a issue with ubuntu server 18.04 and 20.04
[02:56] <josephillips> i bought new servers with cascade lake procesors
[02:56] <josephillips> when the iscsi uefi driver is loading at begining
[02:56] <josephillips> ubuntu stuck on loading inital ramdisk
[02:57] <josephillips> this issue happend in the setup too
[02:57] <josephillips> the one what that is not work is when iscsi driver is disabled
[02:58] <josephillips> is posible see what is loading the ramdisk when got stuck?
[03:06] <[rg]> if I use runit, does that package update the service files as well?
[03:11] <elPuma> is /usr/share/applications where I should save a foo.desktop file so that I can add a foo application launcher to my dash?
[04:15] <bambam9> can I boot from an sata ssd, but install the system on a nVME?
[04:16] <flying_sausages> yes
[04:16] <bambam9> super cool, thanks flying_sausages
[04:16] <flying_sausages> you can put grub on one and point it to wherever
[04:17] <bambam9> perhaps I could boot from a small usb stick.. (when I think about it(
[04:17] <flying_sausages> you could boot off a floppy too!
[04:18] <bambam9> fat32?
[04:18] <bambam9> i like it how flexible linux is. (i'm used to macOS where everything is locked down)
[04:19] <flying_sausages> well, i actually don't agree with that
[04:19] <flying_sausages> macos can be pretty open if you get around the CLI
[04:21] <bambam9> ^ i agree with all of that of course :)
[04:22] <bambam9> I mean the CLI is great
[04:22] <bambam9> what I found surprising about switching to Linux is that some things work better.
[04:22] <bambam9> hardware support
[04:23] <bambam9> I can click on any f*** button on my logitech mouse, but macOS won't recognize it
[04:23] <bambam9> if you insert a non apple keyboard, apple calls it a "barcode reader", lol
[04:24] <Eickmeyer_E> !language | bambam9
[05:32] <SomethingGeneric> Can anyone help me out with KVM? I can make and connect to VMS, but when I reboot, `virsh list` no longer aknowledged them
[05:42] <conjo> hi all I'd like to learn more about the special characters used in bash commands i am encountering on the net (git hub installs and tutorials to i dunno run stuff) not just the obivous stuff like the wild cards and && but other things-my googling is giving me the same novice answers id like more knowledge
[05:43] <conjo> thanks in advance for any suggestions
[05:53] <circuitbone> conjo:  is a cheat sheet enough to keep you rolling? https://devhints.io/bash
[05:54] <conjo> =)
[05:54] <conjo> awesome man thank you
[05:55] <circuitbone> welcome! :)
[06:01] <conjo> circuitbone, i have bookmarked the page you shared; Id love it in pdf form how would i save it as a gedit,nano,ebook,or pdf also?
[06:01] <conjo> or other offline text form
[06:03] <circuitbone> https://github.com/JazzCore/python-pdfkit/wiki/Installing-wkhtmltopdf
[06:05] <circuitbone> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/V3K0brzk/bash_cheatsheet.pdf.zip
[06:05] <circuitbone> conjo ^
[06:06] <conjo> thats wicked im just reading how to use thanks alot
[06:06] <conjo> =)
[06:06] <circuitbone> welcome mate ;)
[06:12] <conjo> that works a treat mate thanks so much
[06:40] <josephillips> some
[06:41] <josephillips> help with black screen on ubuntu
[06:41] <josephillips> :
[06:41] <josephillips> ?
[06:43] <guiverc> josephillips, if you have a Ubuntu support question, please ask it (try and keep to a single line, and be patient as people will answer if/when they can)
[06:44] <josephillips> i have a new server supermicro diskless with UEFI boot configured when the server use the iscsi option rom ubuntu is unable to boot
[06:44] <josephillips> even on the installer
[06:45] <josephillips> keep in Loading initial ramdisk
[06:46] <nikolam> I just figured, my computer freezes after getting back from the standby, after some time. I only had FIrefox and Thunderbird (and Xfce addons) working on the machine.
[06:46] <nikolam> it is 20.04.
[06:52] <gimmel> Hi all, I have two apps that are managing to start themselves as Ubuntu boots, and I want to disable them. I don't run the standard Ubuntu window manager so I'm looking for a command line solution. Where and how would these two apps (AnyDesk and Zoom) be starting themselves?
[06:54] <zhanx> gimmel, cd ~/.config/autostart
[06:55] <zhanx> ls and you *should* see them
[06:55] <gimmel> zhanx: No, it's not in there. That's where I configure my own auto starts, but AnyDesk and Zoom don't have entries there.
[06:56] <zhanx> checking mine
[06:56] <zhanx> anything in ~/.config/autostart-scripts/
[06:57] <gimmel> zhanx: I don't have that directory
[06:57] <zhanx> k
[06:58] <zhanx> you on gnome?
[06:59] <gimmel> zhanx: umm, gnome under openbox
[07:00] <zhanx> k
[07:00] <zhanx>  look here /etc/xdg/autostart/ <-
[07:01] <gimmel> zhanx: nothing that looks relevant.
[07:01] <zhanx> you should see an anydesk and zoom entry
[07:02] <gimmel> zhanx: I just grep'd zoom, anydesk and desk in the directory - nothing.
[07:03] <zhanx> locate anydesk
[07:04] <gimmel> zhanx: yup, working my way through that list now
[07:04] <zhanx> also look for the teamviewer thing
[07:04] <gimmel> systemd
[07:05] <zhanx> sudo systemctl disable anydesk.service
[07:05] <gimmel> haha snap
[07:05] <zhanx> i dont use either so tossing out ideas
[07:06] <gimmel> zhanx: yup, that's where anydesk was - looking for zoom now. FYI, anydesk I like. Zoom I'm using by force at the moment.
[07:06] <zhanx> i use zoom in a vm due to work
[07:07] <gimmel> zhanx: I don't think my clunker of a laptop would appreciate any extra overhead
[07:07] <zhanx> but then you realize its zoom
[07:08] <gimmel> Anydesk was systemd, I can't seem to find an entry for zoom still
[07:08] <zhanx> sudo systemctl disable zoom.service
[07:08] <zhanx> try that
[07:08] <gimmel> nope
[07:09] <zhanx> be me uninstall it, have the install file on hand for when its needed>
[07:09] <zhanx> ?
[07:11] <pi0> any suggestions for setting up cross arch compile to mips 32
[07:12] <gimmel> zhanx: Yeah, considering whether I just change my workflow to not have it on my stone-aged laptop.
[07:12] <zamba> are there issues with nfs in ubuntu < 20.04?
[07:13] <zamba> namely performance?
[07:13] <gimmel> zhanx: that said, I still would like to know how it's starting...
[07:13] <zhanx> true
[07:14] <zamba> where can i file a bug report for ubuntu and the nfs?
[07:15] <zhanx> gimmel, you look for teamviewer stuff as zoom
[07:15] <zhanx> zamba, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/report-ubuntu-bug.html.en
[07:15] <gimmel> zhanx: sorry?
[07:16] <zhanx> i read somewhere a while back zoom might be teamviewer stuff also
[07:16] <zhanx> gimmel, scratch that
[07:16] <gimmel> zhanx: haven't heard that!!
[07:16] <gimmel> ok
[07:16] <zhanx> gimmel, grab in the install files
[07:16] <zamba> zhanx: it's a more general problem.. it's not a crash or something like that.. it's just that when writing large files over nfs in ubuntu < 20.04 then all other IO towards that nfs share freezes or goes terribly slow until the write is completed
[07:16] <zhanx> look at the paths
[07:16] <zamba> in 20.04 this is fixed
[07:17] <zhanx> zamba, then they fixed it and may not roll it back to older versions
[07:17] <zamba> zhanx: 18.04 is still in support, no?
[07:18] <zhanx> gimmel, does dmesg | zoom give you anything
[07:19] <zhanx> zamba, yes till Apr 2023
[07:19] <gimmel> zhanx: I presume you skipped the 'grep' by mistake? And no, nothing in dmesg
[07:19] <zhanx> yep
[07:19] <zhanx> k
[07:19] <zamba> zhanx: so they should really backport this fix if it's actually confirmed..
[07:20] <gimmel> zhanx: Anyway, I've uninstalled - thanks for the help and confirming I'm not entirely insane.
[07:20] <zhanx> zamba, file the bug with 18.04 so you can track it and get an answer?
[07:20] <zhanx> gimmel, its also zoom man so....
[07:20] <gimmel> zhanx: true - but... it can't just voodoo start.
[07:21] <zhanx> man i don't want to install it to see it, one sec
[07:21] <gimmel> zhanx: don't worry about it. It's already removed from my system - so all good.
[07:21] <zhanx> k
[07:21] <gimmel> I'm out for now anyway, don't let it drive you insane.
[07:21] <zhanx> will thi
[07:21] <zhanx> tho
[07:22] <zhanx> like where did they put it!!!
[07:31] <conjo> i would like to contribute to opensource im not a coder-"yet...but am reading/learning bash and python3", where should i start another suggested the following but they are not accepting any more users to join?
[07:32] <conjo> https://www.firsttimersonly.com/
[07:32] <conjo> https://www.codenewbie.org/
[07:33] <zhanx> conjo for that #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:33] <conjo> how do i get started helping gnu/linux
[07:33] <conjo> okay
[07:33] <zhanx> this is mainly a help channel
[07:34] <conjo> sorry zhanx will ask there
[07:35] <conjo> =)
[07:35] <zhanx> no problem i just felt you might have more traction there
[07:35] <luna_> or #ubuntu-desktop
[07:37] <conjo> thank you
[07:38] <conjo> luna_, think everyone but us is asleep
[07:38] <luna_> maybe
[07:43] <b1ackandwh1te> conjo: my sleep routine is completely mad, sleeping in fragments day night
[07:56] <ducasse> !contribute | conjo
[08:10] <eliyahuTBR> is there a "paste bin" that supports images? I have a screen shot I would like to share.
[08:10] <olspookishmagus> eliyahuTBR: imgur.com/upload
[08:15] <eliyahuTBR> the GUI tells me I have two updates I need to do. However it fails (see image). apt-get update shows nothing not up to date. https://imgur.com/a/BYSfPpK any ideas?
[08:16] <eliyahuTBR> also, since I upgraded to LTS a week or two ago, my computer boots into grub on every third or fourth boot. Is this a know issue or have I managed to break my machien all by myself?
[08:31] <ocean> eliyahuTBR: what fails? apt-get update "just" syncs (package)index files. Actual update use: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:57] <conjo> thanks for the post ducasse ubottu
[08:58] <conjo> blackandwhite
[09:14] <StyXman> I just installed ubuntu-server-20.04. how do I install pkgs? nor apt,  nor aptitude not ap-get are present?
[09:16] <StyXman> hmmm
[09:17] <StyXman> forget I said anything
[09:35] <ubusr> Hi, I have an ubuntu 16.04 laptop which keeps telling me once in a while that my password at the lock screen is incorrect, while it work just fine in a terminal... I have many unsaved stuff open, what are my options ?
[09:35] <ubusr> I tried per-stackoverflow to rename .Xauthority, didn't help
[09:37] <ubusr> :(
[09:45] <ocean> ubusr: in a terminal session, you can run: loginctl list-sessions, and unlock using: loginctl unlock-session <session-id>
[09:46] <ubusr> YEY amazing
[09:46] <ubusr> btw, how come I have 3 session on the same X seat ?
[10:11] <conjo> whats the ubuntu offtopic channel gys
[10:11] <DJones> conjo: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:12] <conjo> thank you
[10:16] <ducasse> conjo: there is also #ubuntu-discuss for on-topic ubuntu discussions that are not technical support
[10:17] <conjo> thanks ducasse DJones
[10:39] <Guest_74> Hallo Leute
[10:40] <Guest_74> Ich moechte gern Openboard in Ubuntu 20.04 installieren
[10:40] <Guest_74> Habe versucht aber habe nur eine Fehlermeldung bekommen.
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> !english | Guest_74
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> !de | Guest_74
[10:41] <Guest_74> Kein Problem
[10:41] <Guest_74> Also, I ve tried to intall Openboard in Ubuntu 20.04
[10:41] <Guest_74> Aber das ist mir nicht gelungen. Also the program is listed in Ubuntu Software but after istalling it nothing happens.
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> Guest_74: try: sudo snap install openboard
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> from terminal
[10:43] <Guest_74> But isnt snap in Ubuntu Software integrated?
[10:43] <Guest_74> Trotzdem mache ich sofort
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> it should be yes, but as you have trouble, we can try it the terminal way
[10:44] <Guest_74> Ive tried sudo apt  install openboard
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> Guest_74: openboard is not available on the 20.04 apt repos
[10:44] <Guest_74> With this Fehlermeldung: E: Paket openboard kann nicht gefunden werden. (Paket not available)
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> Guest_74: only as a snap
[10:45] <Guest_74> A moment please
[10:46] <Guest_74> I received this output : openboard 0.1 aus arturu installiert
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest_74: ok, so did it create an openboard icon?
[10:47] <Guest_74> translated would be "openboard 0.1 from arturu installed"
[10:47] <Guest_74> Nothing
[10:47] <Guest_74> But the version number is totally wrong. Komisch
[10:48] <Guest_74> It lasted like 5 seconds. Thats suspicious
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> Guest_74: try in your /snap dir maybe the maintainer hidden the icon there
[10:49] <Guest_74> I went to Ubuntu Software and now the app openboard has a check symbol
[10:50] <Guest_74> ~/snap$ lskrita  snap-store  xournalpp
[10:51] <Guest_74> I wrote ls and became         krita  snap-store  xournalpp
[10:51] <Guest_74> Ive installed krita and xournalpp
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> Guest_74: ok, please contact the maintainer of openboard snap here: contact:   arturu@arturu.it
[10:52] <Guest_74> Ok. Ill do it
[10:53] <Guest_74> In linux Mint tricia it works directry from Sofware Management
[10:54] <Guest_74> Also it must work here somehow. Maybe there is a command that would help. Ive read some people got it installed
[10:54] <Guest_74> But the command sequence was so complicated... Ive benn researching for 5 hours. But its Chinese to me
[10:56] <Guest_74> Its 8am here. I didnt sleep today. Tomorrow I have classes and Im the teacher :(
[11:11] <wook__> so i'm trying to share a laptop as a NAS but when i create a samba share i use a 6 digit password, which worked on another laptop. but with this one, the 6 digit password seems to be saved as 8 digits, so the 6 digit password won't work from another computer, and changing it to an 8 digit password doesn't seem to want to log in, help!
[11:14] <zenn> Hello
[11:14] <zenn> my bluetooth headset sound is rather soft
[11:14] <zenn> how do I increase it
[11:14] <zenn> it is loud when I was in Windows
[11:16] <bobdobbs> On ubuntu, where does vlc store snapshots?
[11:17] <bobdobbs> alternatively, what is a media player that runs on ubuntu and saves frames somewhere where I can find them?
[11:21] <luis-o> i think ~/.vlc is the default folder for snapshots
[11:22] <bobdobbs> a bunch of google results told me the same thing. but when I save snapshots that dir remains empty
[11:23] <bobdobbs> oh wait, I found it. for some reason it saves images in ~/tmp
[11:23] <luis-o> maybe you can try to launch vlc from the commandd line with -vv
[11:23] <luis-o> oh okay, nice then
[11:24] <ocean> luis-o: tools > preferences > video tab where you can set the location if I remember correctly
[11:25] <ocean> bobdobbs: sorry ^ for you
[11:29] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:59] <monkwitdafunk> hello users of ubuntu channel on freenode dot net
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> welcome monkwitdafunk
[12:00] <monkwitdafunk> where in the repositories can i download flash based videos on ubuntu desktop?
[12:00] <monkwitdafunk> how can i make a terminal server?
[12:00] <monkwitdafunk> pxe boot
[12:08] <vlt> monkwitdafunk: LTSP
[12:09] <vlt> monkwitdafunk: For rather ancient thin clients we switched to a hybrid solution: LTSP to boot the clients but then xrdp for the user sessions.
[12:10] <monkwitdafunk> vlt: hello
[12:11] <monkwitdafunk> can you use a raspberry pi as a thin client? i have an i7 intel NUC
[12:11] <monkwitdafunk> i dont know what xrdp is vlt
[12:11] <monkwitdafunk> i remember now about
[12:12] <monkwitdafunk> LTSP
[12:12] <waveform> monkwitdafunk, historically yes (netboot is supported on the 3 and 3+ - it's currently under development for the 4, although there's a beta for it). There's a pinet project as I recall which was intended for classroom pi usage (central PC server containing the boot fs' for the Pis and home-dirs)
[12:14] <monkwitdafunk> can the boot file be iso9660 for raspberry pi?
[12:15] <monkwitdafunk> i just want to know if the raspberry pi can pxe boot\
[12:16] <monkwitdafunk> i guess the raspberry pi isnt as good as a acer thin client right?
[12:17] <monkwitdafunk> https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_1203_1157&item_id=104006 <<< i found a raspberry pi thin client @canadacomputers.com
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> monkwitdafunk: thats not really the scope of the ubuntu support channel
[12:17] <monkwitdafunk> okay. i understand lotuspsychje
[12:18] <monkwitdafunk> im using ubuntu desktop right now. which package do i install in synaptic to download streaming video onto my m.2 ssd
[12:19] <waveform> monkwitdafunk, more detail here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/net.md
[12:19] <monkwitdafunk> thank you waveform. this channel is awsome
[12:19] <waveform> (short answer: no PXE boot, but there is a sort of netboot-lite; tftp for boot, nfs mount for root)
[12:23] <Deano59> who's OP here?
[12:23] <Deano59> dax isn't online
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Deano59: can we help you with something?
[12:24] <monkwitdafunk> waveform: i see that the rasberry pi doesnt have a gigabit ethernet female plug
[12:24] <monkwitdafunk> so its not for me
[12:24] <monkwitdafunk> LTSP is too fancy i guess
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> !ot | monkwitdafunk
[12:25] <monkwitdafunk> i was thinking if i had a terminal server that uses only an intel NUC and raspberry pi. it would be energy efficient fun to the extreme
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> stop that please monkwitdafunk
[12:25] <monkwitdafunk> okay lotuspsychje. ill keeep that in mind
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> only ubuntu questions here
[12:26] <waveform> monkwitdafunk, for pi-specific stuff #raspberrypi may be worth trying too
[12:28] <monkwitdafunk> nah, thats okay waveform. raspberry pi aint for me because it doesnt utilize gigabit ethernet
[12:28] <monkwitdafunk> i call my uncle wifi man, and im ethernet boy. lol
[12:29] <monkwitdafunk> can somebody quickly tell me about installing using source code? i realize that cinnelerra video editor isnt in the resitories
[12:30] <monkwitdafunk> then again theres also ubuntu studio right?
[12:30] <monkwitdafunk> i have raw ootage from my camcorder
[12:30] <wook__> so i'm trying to share a laptop as a NAS but when i create a samba share i use a 6 digit password, which worked on another laptop. but with this one, the 6 digit password seems to be saved as 8 digits, so the 6 digit password won't work from another computer, and changing it to an 8 digit password doesn't seem to want to log in, help!
[12:44] <EriC^^> monkwitdafunk: do you need that video editor specifically? cause there's openshot on ubuntu and other video editors
[12:47] <baba-tunde> Hi everyone
[12:47] <baba-tunde> Do you know how to install the latest version of ovirt-guest-agent on Ubuntu 16.04 4.4.0-178-generic ?
[12:49] <monkwitdafunk> yeah EriC^^, i can use openshot but i need to make text based silent video like its a black and white short film
[12:50] <monkwitdafunk> i could just play music and record a sheet of paper however if that solves the problem
[12:51] <EriC^^> monkwitdafunk: openshot has the ability to overlay text on top of the video image
[12:51] <monkwitdafunk> oh really?
[12:52] <EriC^^> yeah, iirc the trick of it is the order of the stuff where you can add multiple videos/audio etc, like you have to put the video as #1 text as #2 or viceversa i dont remember, so that the text overlays
[12:53] <Deano59> lotuspsychje: are you an OP? or just helper?
[12:53] <ocean> baba-tunde: "latest" in Xenial being 1.0.11.2? (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ovirt-guest-agent) It's in universe repo
[12:58] <baba-tunde> ocean: Currently I have the version 1.0.11.3. And it is not working any more since I upgraded Ovirt to 4.3
[13:01] <rjwiii> I have Ubuntu on a desktop (System76 Thelio). I don't wat to turn on automatic suspend, but I do want the monitor to go to sleep after a time. Is there a way to set this up?
[13:02] <Deano59> what DE rjwiii?
[13:02] <rjwiii> DE?
[13:02] <Deano59> different DE's have different power management.
[13:02] <Deano59> destkop enviroment...
[13:02] <Deano59> lxqt? lxde? etc...
[13:02] <Deano59> or gnome... xD
[13:02] <baba-tunde> ocean: The version 1.0.13 seems working fine with ovirt 4.3. Is there a way to get this version on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[13:02] <rjwiii> default Gnome on Ubuntu 20.04
[13:03] <rjwiii> Deano59: default Gnome on Ununtu 20.04
[13:03] <ocean> baba-tunde: Ubuntu as guest, I don't think it is officially supported > 12.04 release, precise
[13:06] <sybariten> hey
[13:07] <rjwiii> is for horses ... :)
[13:08] <sybariten> i'm tinkering with CUPS. I have managed to install some printer drivers (i think), i hjave cups up and running on a little laptop... and now i want to add a printer, but doing it from another machine. So i'm using the web interface, at 192.168.0.5:643   ... which i can reach. But CUPS has some user admin things ofcourse, and when i do "add printer" it wants me to login with a user which i suspect is basicly
[13:08] <sybariten> root
[13:09] <sybariten> I dont really have a root PW on the machine at the moment ... and there should be ways to fix this i suspect. Any ideas? I need to change some line in a conf file, but i'm unsuire if i also need to add a user to a group and if so which user and which group
[13:22] <tatertots> sybariten: a web page isn't the ideal way to perform "system administration" of the "remote" machine, if you have "administrative" tasks that need to be performed, you should access the computer in a administrative manner or method, which does NOT include a web page
[13:28] <sybariten> tatertots: well i mean its a temporary and non-critical system in my apartment only
[13:29] <ocean> sybariten: you should be able to just use your own username and password, like you would with sudo
[13:29] <BluesKaj>  localhost:631
[13:30] <baba-tunde> ocean: thanks I will check that with ovirt guys
[13:30] <sybariten> ocean: oh, havent even tried that....   i never figured that "myUser" was involved in any of this
[13:32] <tatertots> sybariten: administrative task often require the task be done by a "administrative" user with administrator privileges, tasks such as adding or removing software or hardware
[13:32] <sybariten> cryptic error on the web page following using "my own" user: unable to add printer, internal server error ....  i'm really not sure that my normal user would be of any use here
[13:33] <sybariten> tatertots: yeah i mean in its default state you have to log in with the root user through this web interface i think
[13:34] <ocean> sybariten: your "own" user would definitely be able to do CUPS administrative tasks, as long as your user is member of the lpadmin group. Not sure what your internal server error is though
[13:36] <tatertots> sybariten: find out if your printer is supported by HPLIP or Brother printer drivers for Linux, they both have installers that configure everything for printing without having to mess with CUPS directly
[13:36] <howarth> Has anyone been trying proposed updates for 20.04? I have been finding that accountsservice 0.6.55-0ubuntu12~20.04.1 update crashes into greeter.
[13:37] <howarth> I notice it had the following change.
[13:37] <howarth> * Add patch to not crash in the library when the daemon goes away
[13:38] <howarth> which makes me wonder if upgrading from  accountsservice 0.6.55-0ubuntu11 is doomed to fail due to the currently running copy of the daemon not having that fix?
[13:38] <tatertots> sybariten: if your printer isn't supported by HPLIP or Brother driver for Linux, you'll be doing a lot of trial and error no matter what, good luck
[13:39] <howarth> When you crash into the greeter, it is unable to successfully complete a login with only the background color being displayed. A hard reboot is always required to get back to a functional greeter.
[13:40] <howarth> Filed this as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/1878611
[13:49] <wm4> "Oh no something has gone wrong!"
[13:49] <wm4> what the fuck?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> !language | wm4
[13:50] <wm4> oh no I said a bad word
[13:50] <wm4> fucking shit
[13:51] <wm4> at least I can decide to install a better distro, than the people who seem to be the intended target for this error message
[13:51] <tf2ftw> Snap has been a very frustrating experience so far. I'll be avoiding this in the future
[13:51] <BluesKaj> and you expect help with that attitude ? good luck wm4
[13:52] <wm4> I'm not sure what ubuntu devs expect then
[13:52] <sybariten> ocean: but... logically. Suppose i have a user "jake" on that machine overf there. ANd i have restgarted CUPS with sudo systemctl restart cups.service , as jake (who has sudo rights). And then from another, windows machine, i go to the ubuntuMachine:631 web interface. In what way is jake even involved? He's not serving any pages is he?
[13:52] <wm4> thankfulness for replacing complicated error messages with something that leaves them stuck with no way to continue?
[13:53] <sybariten> tatertots: oh, i think it should work. I can start by sitting down at the printerserverlaptop and doing it from there....   i mean i want to run this printer as a network printer, anyhow
[13:54] <wm4> why did ubuntu decide to make this horrible switch to gnome?
[13:54] <wm4> everything is less intuitive now
[13:56] <tf2ftw> Can someone tell me how to remove snap packages manually?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> tf2ftw, sudo snap remove packagename ?
[14:01] <b1ackandwh1te> gnome is cool but unfortunately is heavy to weak machines
[14:02] <wm4> seems to be a broad disimprovement over unity
[14:02] <tf2ftw> BluesKaj, thanks for the reply but not what im looking for.
[14:02] <wm4> not that I was a fan of unity
[14:02] <tf2ftw> I'm getting errors while trying to remove a package through snap. I just want to remove them manually
[14:03] <BluesKaj> tf2ftw, https://www.utappia.org/2016/04/how-to-search-install-remove-snap.html
[14:04] <tf2ftw> BluesKaj, again thanks but not what im looking for. Running snap commands are broken. I want to remove everything with a rm -rf command or something like that
[14:05] <wm4> at least gnome gets rid of the god awful "dbus" menus that conflicted with some Qt applications and that couldn't be disabled on unity
[14:06] <BluesKaj> tf2ftw, rm -rf can be dangerous, but I'm sure you already know that
[14:06] <wm4> so not sure whether to run gnome or a bitrotting unity package
[14:06] <wm4> or just biting the bullet and going back to tumbleweed/kde
[14:07] <BluesKaj> wm4, why don't you try one of the other ubuntu DEs
[14:08] <BluesKaj> kde/plasma is my fav..works great here
[14:11] <wm4> KDE is significantly less polished than ubuntu 16.04 out of the box
[14:11] <wm4> ubuntu did good work there
[14:11] <wm4> and then destroyed it by switching to gnome
[14:16] <SirTalksAlot4> Anyone have any modern irc clients for ubuntu?
[14:17] <SirTalksAlot4> help
[14:17] <SirTalksAlot4> me
[14:17] <leftyfb> SirTalksAlot4: did you have a support question?
[14:18] <SirTalksAlot4> Anyone have any modern irc clients for ubuntu?
[14:18] <SirTalksAlot4> 'I have a question
[14:18] <badbodh> hexchat, polari, kvirc, quassel, pidgin
[14:18] <rjwiii> SirTalksAlot4: KVIRC
[14:18] <leftyfb> SirTalksAlot4: if you want opinions or to conduct a survey, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:20] <SirTalksAlot4> How do I conducte a servey?
[14:21] <leftyfb> SirTalksAlot4: please go to #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support questions
[14:24] <vathsan64> hello
[14:24] <BluesKaj> wm4, kde/plasma is more flexible than gnome in the long run if one is willing to do a litle work with it.
[14:24] <vathsan64> i need some help with installing 20.04
[14:24] <vathsan64> i use a nvidia 1050
[14:25] <vathsan64> and when i installed ubuntu 20.04 i cant boot into it without nomodeset
[14:25] <vathsan64> i installed nvidia-390 drivers
[14:25] <vathsan64> but i just get stuck in black screen after grub
[14:25] <vathsan64> any fixes?
[14:27] <vathsan64> i was told to ask here in reddit
[14:27] <wm4> vathsan64: select recovery boot in grub
[14:27] <rapidwave> I
[14:27] <wm4> that's what I had to do (and then some more)
[14:27] <vathsan64> and then what more wm4
[14:28] <wm4> drop to the shell, run dpkg --reconfigure -a
[14:28] <wm4> and apt -f install
[14:28] <rapidwave> I've just discovered that UFW has been in the way of my VM/containerized web servers, stopping my sites from working. I disabled ufw and the problem went away. Is there a better solutoin than disabling UFW?
[14:28] <wm4> though that was without a nvidia gpu, and upgrade from 19.10
[14:28] <vathsan64> is this after installing nvidia driver or before
[14:28] <badbodh> rapidwave: check ufw log which exact ports are being used, and allow them
[14:28] <rapidwave> /var/log/ufw?
[14:30] <badbodh> gufw shows current connection in its window. not the "log" log exactly
[14:30] <badbodh> lemme check the man
[14:31] <rapidwave> Does it require a system restart?
[14:31] <badbodh> sudo ufw show listening
[14:32] <badbodh> we don't restart in linuxville unless it's a kernel upgrade. stop/start services will do
[14:33] <vathsan64> anyone less fix for the blackscreen issue?
[14:33] <rapidwave> Support in #docker said that the problem is that Docker tries to write to firewall rules as well and conflicts with UFW
[14:33] <badbodh> vathsan64: in terminal run uname -r and show the output
[14:33] <rapidwave> badbodh: I restart sometimes because my memory gets used up
[14:34] <rapidwave> System gets slow after a while...restart restores performance
[14:35] <badbodh> run sudo ufw status to check if there's any existing rules
[14:36] <badbodh> both write to iptables, ufw is not a "firewall", only a frontend
[14:38] <badbodh> just check the show listening output and note down the ports and protocol your docker process is listening to. allow port/protocol , no need to restart service or anything it should work right away
[14:53] <vathsan64> hey rapidwave the output of uname -r as u asked is 5.4.0-29-generic
[14:55] <donaldkbrown> I had to duck out yesterday before I got an answer. I accidentally set a keyring to automatically unlock when I logged in. Now, aws-vault doesn't ask me for a separate password when I use it. This has decreased my work security. How can I make it so that it stays locked after logging in?
[14:57] <rapidwave> I didn't ask that
[14:57] <vathsan64> anyone how to fix black screen after boot ubuntu 20.04
[14:58] <badbodh> vathsan64: go to advance in grub menu and see if you have an older kernel installed
[14:58] <badbodh> try booting into one of them
[14:58] <vathsan64> and then?
[14:59] <badbodh> what ubuntu did you upgrade from? 19.10 or 18.04?
[14:59] <vathsan64> no i deleted my old dual boot
[14:59] <vathsan64> and reinstalled
[15:00] <badbodh> which ubuntu did you have before in dual boot?
[15:00] <vathsan64> 18.04
[15:03] <badbodh> are you in live session now?
[15:03] <badbodh> on same machine that is
[15:03] <vathsan64> no i booted with nomodeset now
[15:04] <badbodh> run "lspci | nc termbim.com 9999" in terminal and share the link
[15:05] <vathsan64> but this is a temporary fix right.. i dont want to edit my grub file to include this
[15:06] <vathsan64>  https://termbin.com/sgc6
[15:06] <badbodh> to make it permanent edit /etc/default/grub , look for the entry GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[15:06] <badbodh> add nomodeset
[15:07] <badbodh> sudo nano /etc/default/grub to edit, ctrl+o to save, ctrl+x to quit, then run sudo update-grub
[15:07] <vathsan64> i didnt catch the message before this badbodh.. i had to relog in
[15:07] <badbodh> but ideally it would be nice to run the driver without having to nomodeset if possible
[15:07] <vathsan64> yeah i tried this but
[15:08] <vathsan64> its not a permanent fix right
[15:08] <badbodh> (08:36:17  IST) badbodh: to make it permanent edit /etc/default/grub , look for the entry GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[15:08] <badbodh> (08:36:25  IST) badbodh: add nomodeset
[15:08] <badbodh> (08:37:14  IST) badbodh: sudo nano /etc/default/grub to edit, ctrl+o to save, ctrl+x to quit, then run sudo update-grub
[15:08] <vathsan64> i cant change brightness and do stuff like that
[15:08] <badbodh> that will apply nomodeset permanently
[15:08] <vathsan64> isnt there any perm fix?
[15:08] <misasaki> why does he have to put nomodeset there permanently? That's kinda a bad idea
[15:08] <vathsan64> yeah! @misas
[15:08] <misasaki> what is his problem?
[15:08] <ioria> vathsan64, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:09] <vathsan64> i cant boot into ubuntu 20.04 (blackscreen after grub)
[15:09] <vathsan64> i need to add nomodeset to boot
[15:09] <vathsan64> misasaki
[15:10] <misasaki> uhm but normally it only appears in the 1st boot, after finishing installation nouveau should work out it for ya
[15:10] <ioria> vathsan64, run that cmd in terminal and post the url
[15:10] <misasaki> or if you install nvidia it will blacklist nouveau after a reboot and all fine
[15:10] <vathsan64> nouveau is installed by default thought right misasaki
[15:11] <vathsan64> yeah one sec ioria
[15:11] <badbodh> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1045241/ubuntu-18-04-how-do-i-install-drivers-for-my-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050
[15:11] <badbodh> it suggests using "ubuntu-drivers" command rather than directly installing packages
[15:12] <vathsan64> im not getting a link after i run it ioria probably cuz there is no output
[15:12] <vathsan64> if i run dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[15:12] <ioria> vathsan64, dpkg -l | grep nvidia    ; what you see ?
[15:13] <vathsan64> no output ioria
[15:13] <ioria> vathsan64, you said you installed 390
[15:14] <vathsan64> yeah
[15:14] <badbodh> check for typos, maybe if you type nivida
[15:14] <ioria> vathsan64,  ^
[15:14] <vathsan64> yeah let me reboot quick
[15:14] <ioria> why ?
[15:15] <vathsan64> the last time i did this it wont boot at all no matter what even after nomodeset
[15:15] <vathsan64> after installing nvidia-390
[15:15] <vathsan64> if i install nvidia-440 the UI and opening of apps is too sluggish
[15:16] <ioria> vathsan64,  as far as we know, you installed nothing
[15:16] <ioria> vathsan64,  please, check the spelling
[15:16] <vathsan64> here u go ioria https://termbin.com/h42i5
[15:17] <ioria> vathsan64,  uname -r
[15:17] <vathsan64> https://termbin.com/h42i5
[15:17] <vathsan64> 5.4.0-29-generic
[15:18] <ioria> vathsan64,  cat /etc/issue
[15:18] <vathsan64> Ubuntu 20.04 LTS \n \l
[15:18] <ioria> vathsan64,  cat /proc/cmdline
[15:19] <vathsan64> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-29-generic root=UUID=72ab477a-e908-47f0-b4f8-64e1d7119277 ro quiet splash nomodeset vt.handoff=7
[15:19] <ioria> vathsan64,  so, why not 440 ?
[15:20] <vathsan64> if i install nvidia-440 the UI and opening of apps is too sluggish
[15:20] <vathsan6417> And no appps open
[15:20] <vathsan6417> Sorry had to relog in my phone
[15:21] <ioria> vathsan6417, apparently 390 it's not working; so i suggest to purge it for now
[15:21] <vathsan6417> sudo apt-purge nvidia* ?
[15:21] <ioria> vathsan6417, sudo apt purge nvidia-driver-390
[15:22] <vathsan6417> So what's the permanant fix for this?
[15:22] <ioria> vathsan6417, step by step, please
[15:23] <vathsan6417> Ok
[15:23] <ioria> vathsan6417, sudo apt purge nvidia-driver-390
[15:23] <vathsan6417> I purged it
[15:23] <ioria> vathsan6417,  sudo apt autoremove --purge
[15:23] <vathsan6417> No apps will open now. Everything responds with not responding .. terminal, firefox all
[15:24] <badbodh> ioria: it's a baby fresh install, why not nuke it and do ubuntu-drivers autoinstall thingy from scratch
[15:24] <ioria> badbodh, that's an idea
[15:24] <vathsan6417> Terminal won't open nor any apps.. can't purge :/
[15:25] <vathsan6417> Can't drop to a tty too idk why
[15:25] <badbodh> undoing the sin is too much effort imo
[15:25] <EriC^^> vathsan6417: maybe ctrl+alt+f1 works?
[15:25] <ioria> vathsan6417,  open a console
[15:25] <ioria> not f1
[15:25] <vathsan6417> F1 is desktop
[15:25] <ioria> vathsan6417,  f3
[15:25] <ioria> nope, it's gdm
[15:25] <vathsan6417> Nope ! Tried it! Won't open tty
[15:25] <badbodh> f2 is desktop :)
[15:25] <vathsan6417> Ok the mouse too doesn't move now
[15:26] <vathsan6417> No response
[15:26] <ioria> vathsan6417,  you have a weird OS there
[15:26] <EriC^^> vathsan6417: try the recovery shell from the grub options maybe?
[15:26] <vathsan6417> Of any kind
[15:27] <vathsan6417> Yeah...
[15:27] <ioria> vathsan6417,  you booted with nomodest, so nvidia has no role atm
[15:27] <badbodh> it's running on the stock intel now
[15:27] <ioria> vathsan6417,  so purging it does nothing
[15:27] <vathsan6417> No I booted without nomodeset to purge it. Booting with nomodeset doesn't even go past grub
[15:28] <vathsan6417> It's just the vendor logo
[15:28] <ioria> vathsan6417,  nope.... loook above
[15:28] <ioria> vathsan6417,  BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-29-generic root=UUID=72ab477a-e908-47f0-b4f8-64e1d7119277 ro quiet splash nomodeset vt.handoff=7
[15:28] <ioria> vathsan6417,  are you playing with us ?
[15:28] <vathsan6417> No man! ioria
[15:28] <ioria> vathsan6417,  you booted with nomodeset
[15:29] <vathsan6417> Why would I.. I just want this fixed.
[15:29] <vathsan6417> Yes it showed my desktop and then no response after that. No mouse input or kn input
[15:29] <vathsan6417> *kb
[15:30] <EriC^^> vathsan6417: is it a fresh install? what's the backstory?
[15:30] <vathsan6417> Fresh install
[15:30] <vathsan6417> I'm now in recover mode .. ioria
[15:31] <badbodh> vathsan6417: it's a new install, no harm nuking it anyway. do fresh install, and use "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" stick to whatever it does for you. topic on sluggish apps can be revisited after you have a functioning unbroken system
[15:31] <badbodh> swapping drivers willy nilly won't help here.
[15:32] <vathsan6417> Hmm alright.. badbodh
[15:32] <badbodh> there might be some voodoo through nvidia-settings that will fix it right, so let's get there first. step 1 is nuke
[15:33] <vathsan6417> I purged the nvidia drivers from recoverymode ioria
[15:33] <ioria> vathsan6417,  reboot; if you can't, use nomodeset again
[15:33] <vathsan6417> Ok ioria
[15:34] <ButtDog> i'm trying to build a docker container using the following command.. Any idea why it's failing? http://dpaste.com/33RPZTR
[15:36] <vathsan6417> Rebooted with nomodeset @ioria
[15:36] <ioria> vathsan6417,  paste again   dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:37] <vathsan6417> No output
[15:37] <ioria> vathsan6417,  check the spelling , as above
[15:37] <vathsan6417> Maybe cuz no nvidia drivers? I purged em as u said
[15:38] <vathsan6417> If it's purged it won't be there right
[15:38] <ioria> vathsan6417,  yeah, but you 'had' no output also with nvidia installed
[15:38] <vathsan6417> I sent the output?
[15:39] <vathsan6417> termbin.com/h42i5 was the one I sent before
[15:39] <ioria> vathsan6417,  ubuntu-drivers list | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:41] <vathsan6417> It won't generate an output
[15:41] <ioria> vathsan6417,  ubuntu-drivers list    and paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[15:43] <vathsan6417> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2ryH926n5n
[15:44] <ioria> vathsan6417,  sudo updatedb && locate xorg.conf
[15:44] <vathsan6417> Updatedb not found
[15:45] <ioria> vathsan6417,  sudo updatedb
[15:45] <vathsan6417> Same.. should I apt install locate?
[15:46] <ioria> vathsan6417,  it's installed by default
[15:46] <vathsan6417> I installed now..
[15:46] <ioria> vathsan6417,  and btw, is mlocate
[15:47] <vathsan6417> https://termbin.com/ogvej
[15:47] <vathsan6417> It shows a couple perm denied for /run/user/1000/
[15:48] <ioria> vathsan6417,  cat /var/log/installer/media-info
[15:48] <vathsan6417> Ubuntu 20.04 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200423)
[15:50] <ioria> vathsan6417,  well, i think you can try with 435 ; maybe from cli so you can check any errors
[15:50] <vathsan6417> How doi install from cli instead of from additional drivers
[15:51] <ioria> vathsan6417,  sudo apt install nvidia-driver-435
[15:51] <vathsan6417> Ok.. installing..
[15:52] <ioria> brb
[15:52] <vathsan6417> It's done. let me reboot
[15:54] <vathsan6417> https://termbin.com/owgs is the output of dpkg -l | grep nvidia now
[15:56] <vathsan6417> Nope only blackscreen after grub now.
[15:58] <vathsan6417> Won't even boot with nomodeset now
[15:59] <vathsan6417> After grub I.e
[15:59] <ioria> vathsan6417,  recovery, purge 435
[15:59] <vathsan6417> Here we go again....
[16:00] <ioria> vathsan6417,  sudo apt purge  nvidia-driver-435 && sudo apt autoremove --purge
[16:01] <vathsan6417> Done. Rebooting with nomodeset
[16:01] <ioria> vathsan6417, honestly, nouveau should work with 5.4.0.29 and gtx 1050 ; have you try with it ?
[16:02] <vathsan6417> Yes.. but without nomodeset it won't boot. I don't want to permanently add it In nrub..
[16:02] <vathsan6417> *grub. As it's a bad idea imo.
[16:02] <ioria> vathsan6417, lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:04] <vathsan6417> https://termbin.com/yfkw
[16:06] <ioria> vathsan6417,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:08] <vathsan6417> Done
[16:08] <KendyChat> Is there any ircops online? I need help in the room #IRCRelay. Thanks and look forward to your help.
[16:08] <ioria> vathsan6417, did it install something ?
[16:09] <leftyfb> KendyChat: this has nothing to do with ubuntu. Try #freenode
[16:09] <vathsan6417> 0 newly installed 32 upgraded
[16:09] <ioria> vathsan6417, cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:10] <vathsan6417> https://termbin.com/ggdg
[16:12] <ioria> vathsan6417, grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nvidia
[16:15] <vathsan6417> https://termbin.com/ohj2
[16:16] <ioria> vathsan6417, grep blacklist /lib/modprobe.d/* | grep nvidia
[16:17] <vathsan6417> No output
[16:18] <ioria> vathsan6417, sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf.back
[16:19] <vathsan6417> Created.
[16:19] <ioria> vathsan6417, sudo apt install nvidia-prime
[16:19] <vathsan6417> Installed nvidia prime
[16:19] <ioria> vathsan6417, sudo prime-select nvidia
[16:20] <ax0l> is snappy core immutable? like silverblue, with overlays and stuff?
[16:20] <vathsan6417> Profile already set ioria
[16:20] <ioria> vathsan6417, ls /etc/modprobe.d | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:21] <vathsan6417> https://termbin.com/jmm6
[16:23] <Rozha> hallo look i have problem i make ln -s /user/share/webmail/ /var/www/mail.exaple.com and it works like http://mail.example.com/webmail how to maky tat it works only http://mail.example.com
[16:23] <ioria> vathsan6417, sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop^
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> ax0l: you could try #snappy
[16:23] <eelstrebor> is it worth the effort to replace openssh with gesftpserver since gesftpserver supports protocol version 6?
[16:24] <yogg> Hi
[16:25] <vathsan6417> Done
[16:25] <yogg> How can I convert a "-----BEGIN OPENSSH PRIVATE KEY-----" private key to pem format (-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----) on 20.04?
[16:27] <vathsan6417> There are many online tools yogg to convert ppk to pem
[16:27] <yogg> i don't upload a private key to convert it
[16:27] <yogg> its private ^^
[16:27] <Sven_vB> yogg, someone else will probably know a better answer, but I used to use PuTTY keygen in wine last time I had to convert them. maybe it's also an opportunity to make a new key.
[16:27] <Rozha> hallo look i have problem i make ln -s /user/share/webmail/ /var/www/mail.exaple.com and it works like http://mail.example.com/webmail how to maky tat it works only http://mail.example.com
[16:30] <yogg> its strange that there is no on board tool that can vonvert that. ssh-keygen can convert public keys but not private
[16:30] <Sven_vB> yogg, I can imagine very few situations where converting private keys is a good idea.
[16:31] <Sven_vB> yogg, that said, the operation might turn out too simple to require a tool at all. maybe try with a dummy key, and it might turn out you just have to make minor changes to the packaging.
[16:31] <yogg> software on the same pc needs the key in another format ^^
[16:31] <erle-> What is the recommended (non-legacy) way to do network configuration on a newly installed Ubuntu desktop and server, respectively?
[16:31] <erle-> network manager?
[16:31] <erle-> systemd-networkd?
[16:31] <erle-> something els?
[16:32] <erle-> /etc/network?
[16:32] <Sven_vB> erle-, I try network-manager first, and if that fails, networkd
[16:32] <Sven_vB> erle-, NetworkManager is what the Xubuntu Live CD uses by default.
[16:33] <Sven_vB> *DVD
[16:33] <erle-> and for server?
[16:33] <Sven_vB> no idea
[16:33] <Sven_vB> I use NM for my servers as well.
[16:34] <Sven_vB> if NM flinches from configuring cable ethernet adapters, I can look up the file override you might need.
[16:35] <erle-> I have problems like this when I use any of them:
[16:35] <erle-> # ip token set ::beef dev ens2
[16:35] <erle-> RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
[16:35] <ioria> vathsan6417, have you reinstalled ubuntu-desktop ?
[16:36] <vathsan6417> 73% done
[16:36] <Sven_vB> erle-, on desktop as well? for the servers you could also ask in #ubuntu-server
[16:36] <ioria> ok
[16:37] <ioria> vathsan6417, please, keep it in the public channel. tx
[16:37] <Sven_vB> erle-, does it work to get the current token?
[16:38] <erle-> yes, and it worked before I configured systemd-networkd
[16:39] <erle-> but then I had the problem that I hadno network after boot
[16:40] <Sven_vB> does the interface come up automatically, and with the expected name? might there be a race condition based on at what stage of boot it is renamed?
[16:41] <MavropaliasG> https://pastebin.com/ZxEcUAVB
[16:41] <MavropaliasG> Hello, I have an older Kubuntu installation and I get this problem when trying to update   https://pastebin.com/ZxEcUAVB
[16:41] <MavropaliasG> what should I do ?
[16:42] <erle-> Sven_vB, problem was: I installed a desktop and then turned it into a server, so removing NM
[16:42] <erle-> now I want to know what is the proper way to configure network
[16:42] <erle-> i.e. what would the installer have installed (for desktop)
[16:42] <Sven_vB> erle-, would it be feasible to stay with NM? I assume you have set up a nullmodem link before uninstalling NM?
[16:42] <ioria> !19.04  | MavropaliasG
[16:43] <erle-> Sven_vB, I want to serve it into a regular server
[16:43] <erle-> I have network running
[16:43] <erle-> but I want a proper configuration
[16:43] <erle-> that does not break with updates etc.
[16:43] <MavropaliasG> ioria: what commands should I press to successfully upgrade? sudo apt update and full-upgrade do not work
[16:43] <erle-> I am asking for the *recommended* way
[16:44] <Sven_vB> erle-, a chroot from another OS (maybe Live DVD) might be one of the easiest ways to uninstall and install network stuff w/o requiring it be active in the guest system.
[16:44] <ioria> MavropaliasG, the cmd to upgarde to a new release is 'do-release-upgrade' but first you need to change your sources.list
[16:44] <ioria> *upgrade
[16:45] <MavropaliasG> ioria: will this command work?   sudo sed -i 's/disco/focal/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:45] <erle-> Sven_vB, I have access, I have network. Everything is working. But not sustainable.
[16:45] <Sven_vB> erle-, for the most official way, I'd ask #ubuntu-server what they recommend, then install that using a chroot.
[16:45] <erle-> thanks
[16:45] <ioria> MavropaliasG, nope.... you have to upgarde to 19.10 not 20.04
[16:46] <MavropaliasG> ioria: can you please give me the command?
[16:46] <vathsan64> Done ioria
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> MavropaliasG: disco is eol, are you sure you want to take the risk of security issues? see !usn
[16:47] <ioria> !eol | MavropaliasG
[16:47] <ioria> vathsan64, ls ls /lib/modprobe.d/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:48] <MavropaliasG> lotuspsychje: I have to upgrade to disco and then to the newest release if I understand correctly
[16:48] <vathsan64> https://termbin.com/231n ioria
[16:50] <ioria> vathsan64, so, i'd say to install 440 and after that check what problems you might have ... what you think ?
[16:50] <vathsan64> Sure ioria
[16:51] <ioria> vathsan64, sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-440     (please keep an eye on errors)
[16:51] <vathsan64> Yeap ioria
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> MavropaliasG: your version is 19.04 and end of life, its advisable to clean install a supported version from the topic
[16:52] <MavropaliasG> lotuspsychje: it's a remote machine and I must update it manually
[16:52] <MavropaliasG> I don't mind the security issues
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> MavropaliasG: ok, then see the eolupgrade factoid that ioria linked you
[16:54] <ioria> MavropaliasG, if you don't want a fresh install, you need to edit your sources.list : e.g.  deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ disco main universe restricted multiverse
[16:55] <ioria> MavropaliasG, then update and full-upgrade;  finally do-release-upgrade
[16:55] <MavropaliasG> ioria: I think my machine is 19.04 if im not mistaken, so I will need to upgrade to 19.10
[16:55] <MavropaliasG> Eoan Ermine
[16:55] <ioria> MavropaliasG, yes
[16:56] <MavropaliasG> so deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ eoan main universe restricted multiverse
[16:56] <MavropaliasG> ?
[16:56] <ioria> MavropaliasG, that is just the first line... yes
[16:57] <MavropaliasG> yep
[16:57] <vathsan64> Sadly it won't boot ioria
[16:57] <MavropaliasG> ioria: what if I run the command  sudo sed -i 's/disco/eoan/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:57] <vathsan64> No errors after Installing
[16:58] <ioria> MavropaliasG, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kSkxPq67tp/
[16:58] <ioria> vathsan64, ok, time to reboot
[16:59] <ioria> MavropaliasG, that way it's not recommended for several reason
[16:59] <vathsan64> With nomodeset?
[16:59] <ioria> vathsan64, nope
[16:59] <vathsan64> Purge?
[17:00] <ioria> vathsan64, boot without nomodset , wait a bit and then try to open a console tty
[17:00] <MavropaliasG> ioria: won't that set mine to disco? shouldn't that be eoan?
[17:00] <ioria> MavropaliasG, nope
[17:01] <ioria> MavropaliasG, you first need to full-upgrade your disco box; then you do do-release-upgrade
[17:01] <MavropaliasG> ah I see thanks ioria
[17:01] <ioria> MavropaliasG, but you can't upgrade your disco box because the the official repository is eol
[17:02] <vathsan64> I rebooted. It went into ubuntu idk why. Then I rebooted again. This time blackscreen.
[17:04] <ioria> vathsan64, i asked you to boot without nomodeset and (after it goes blank)  open a console
[17:05] <vathsan64> After it got blank I tried Ctrl alt f1-f12 . Still blank.
[17:06] <vathsan64> Without nomodeset only
[17:06] <ioria> vathsan64, please boot the livecd
[17:07] <vathsan64> Ok . Btw sometimes it doesn't show the blank screen goes into login, when I log in it freezes after sometime
[17:08] <ioria> vathsan64, what laptop is this ?
[17:08] <vathsan64> Asus fx505gd
[17:08] <vathsan64> Nvidia 1050
[17:09] <MavropaliasG> ioria: sudo apt do-release-upgrade
[17:09] <MavropaliasG> ?
[17:09] <ioria> MavropaliasG, do you have backups ? have you ever upgraded an ubuntu box from command line ?
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64 ioria might be worth checking !20.04 releasenotes, we have 5 known bugs around nvidia chipset
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> autologin gives problems, and driver 440 some cases too
[17:10] <MavropaliasG> ioria: it's a shared screen, so I can ask the person to restart etc, but they wouldn't be able to install from scratch
[17:11] <MavropaliasG> ioria: do you think the update will fail because its from an EOL to and EOL ?
[17:11] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i don't think he has autologin ? do you , vathsan64 ?
[17:11] <vathsan64> No I don't
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> ok
[17:12] <tripelb> Okay, I close the lid of my laptop so that my living room would be dark at night... And in the morning I raised the lid Everything looks fine except the mouse won't move. Does anyone have a suggestion for fixing this other than a hard reboot?
[17:12] <ioria> MavropaliasG, no, that's not the reason... the reason is what external pkgs you might have installed there
[17:12] <MavropaliasG> ioria: just megasync
[17:12] <vathsan64> Booted from live usb  ioria (ubuntu safe graphics, cuz normal ubuntu froze after selecting try uuntu)
[17:13] <ioria> MavropaliasG, well, if you cannot perform a fresh install... yes   do-release-upgrade is the only way
[17:14] <tripelb> Isn't there a way to "refresh"  the GUI?   My mouse is unresponsive.
[17:14] <ioria> vathsan64, have you disabled Secure Boot ?
[17:14] <tripelb> 20.04
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: 2 of the 5 known bugs are related to the installer and nouveau
[17:14] <vathsan64> Yeah ioria
[17:15] <vathsan64> What distro to use in the meanwhile till it gets fixed?.. lotuspsychje
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: did you enable 'install 3r party software' during setup?
[17:15] <ioria> vathsan64, let's try this :   sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[17:16] <vathsan64> No I didn't lotuspsychje
[17:16] <vathsan64> Done ioria
[17:16] <vathsan64> What to change?
[17:17] <ioria> vathsan64, before quiet splash  add  nouveou.modeset=0
[17:17] <ioria> vathsan64, then sudo update-grub
[17:18] <MavropaliasG> ioria: you made me a bit anxious now, what do you mean 'what external pkgs you might have installed there' ? Could the upgrade fail because it's EOL to EOL?
[17:18] <tripelb> My mouse is unresponsive.  Last night I closed the laptop lid: 20.04 HP Probook. My guess is that I have to refresh the GUI and there is a command for that. ??? -- oh cnt-alt-F1 cntl-alt-T give me no reaction --->. This is the most flakey ubuntu yet
[17:18] <monkwitdafunk> how can i turn ubuntu into a run from ram gnu linux operating system?
[17:19] <vathsan64> ioria, failed to get canonical path of /cow
[17:19] <ioria> MavropaliasG, nope....
[17:20] <ioria> vathsan64, sorry, it's nouveau not nouveou
[17:21] <ioria> vathsan64, are you on livecd ?
[17:21] <vathsan64> Liveusb, yes
[17:21] <vathsan64> I think it's my wifi one sec
[17:22] <ioria> vathsan64, ok forget that ;  lspci --k |  nc termbin.com 9999
[17:22] <ioria> vathsan64, ok forget that ;  lspci --nnk |  nc termbin.com 9999
[17:23] <vathsan64> https://termbin.com/4ndy
[17:23] <patcoll> I feel like this a dumb question, but alas I need to ask it. The kitty terminal program lists on their web site (https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/#quickstart) that Ubuntu users can install the latest package from a Launchpad URL (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kitty). I'm trying to figure out a way to somehow add that as an APT source, but I'm not sure that's possible. Is it? Or is the implication that I download the packages manually and install
[17:23] <patcoll> them that way?
[17:23] <ioria> vathsan64, this is from livecd ?
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> patcoll: kitty is on the apt repos
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> !info kitty
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> patcoll: sudo apt install kitty
[17:24] <vathsan64> Yes is it from a liveusb, ioria
[17:25] <irrr3levant> so I am searching for ways to mirror my screen with wifi direct/miracast. This looks most promising: https://github.com/benzea/gnome-network-displays
[17:25] <irrr3levant> but apparently Unity had this functionality built-in? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DisplayCasting did anyone tried this, did it work?
[17:25] <patcoll> lotuspsychje: Indeed, however the implication from their site is that I can install the latest version `0.17.4-1` from the source they gave
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !latest | patcoll
[17:26] <ioria> vathsan64, cat /proc/cmdline
[17:27] <vathsan64> BOOT_IMAGE=/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed maybe-ubiquity quiet splash nomodeset ---
[17:29] <ioria> vathsan64, reboot on your install  (also with nomodeset if needed) without the livecd
[17:29] <patcoll> thanks
[17:29] <ioria> vathsan64, we try to install nvidia from ppa
[17:29] <vathsan64> Ok
[17:30] <MavropaliasG> ioria: willl I lose my files if I do a do-release-upgrade ?
[17:30] <vathsan64> No MavropaliasG
[17:30] <MavropaliasG> also the command is sudo apt do-release-upgrade ?
[17:30] <ioria> MavropaliasG, the system might be not bootable ... the personal files are still thereofcourse
[17:31] <MavropaliasG> ioria: why would it not be bootable? I don't understand
[17:31] <genii> omit the "apt" between sudo and do-release-upgrade
[17:31] <ioria> MavropaliasG, it depends on the state of your system
[17:31] <vathsan64> Blank screen after grub with nomodeset now ioria
[17:32] <vathsan64> Shall I boot into recovery and purge
[17:32] <ioria> vathsan64, purge nvidia-driver-440
[17:32] <MavropaliasG> ioria: I just performed a full update and upgrade to the EOL disco
[17:32] <vathsan64> Ok
[17:32] <MavropaliasG> only external package was megasync
[17:32] <ioria> vathsan64,  the sudo apt autoremove --purge
[17:33] <ioria> MavropaliasG, it's ok
[17:33] <MavropaliasG> I will pick it up tomorrow, thanks for the help ioria :-)
[17:33] <ioria> MavropaliasG, no prob
[17:34] <vathsan64> Purged.
[17:34] <ioria> vathsan64,  sudo apt autoremove --purge
[17:34] <vathsan64> Yeah done
[17:34] <ioria> vathsan64,  reboot with 'nouveau.modeset=0' instead of nomodeset
[17:36] <vathsan64> Blank screen but there is mouse pointer now. It won't move tho
[17:36] <ioria> vathsan64,  can you open a console ?
[17:37] <vathsan64> Nope. Tried all ctrl alt f1-f12
[17:38] <robertparkerx> rtorrent is listening on port 50000 but for some reason the client is reporting port status unknown
[17:38] <ioria> vathsan64,  ok, use nomodeset
[17:39] <robertparkerx> sudo netstat -ntlp | grep LISTEN show it listening
[17:39] <vathsan64> Yeah done
[17:39] <ioria> vathsan64,  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
[17:40] <vathsan64> Added
[17:40] <ioria> vathsan64,  sudo apt-get update
[17:40] <vathsan64> Yeah done with previous command
[17:42] <ioria> vathsan64,  ubuntu-drivers list
[17:44] <vathsan64> nvidia driver 390,435,440, and a backport
[17:44] <vathsan64> Piping to termbin didn't work sorrt
[17:44] <ioria> vathsan64,  apt-cache policy nvidia-driver-440
[17:45] <vathsan64> https://termbin.com/gmmo
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: nmap the ip thats running rtorrent, see if the port is really open
[17:46] <robertparkerx> it is
[17:46] <robertparkerx> I used that too
[17:47] <robertparkerx> I think rutorrent is wonky
[17:48] <oerheks> IMHO deluge is the best torrent app, but standard transmission is not bad either
[17:48] <ioria> vathsan64,  apt -s install  nvidia-driver-440=440.82-0ubuntu0~0.20.04.1
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: did you create the rtorrent.rc file?
[17:50] <robertparkerx> Yes
[17:50] <vathsan64> Version not found
[17:50] <Syzygy> I just installed the terminology as a terminal via ubuntu software. Now I would like to set this as my default terminal that opens with ctrl alt T. Typing sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator tells me that there's only one alternative (the ubuntu default terminal) and that there's nothing to configure
[17:50] <robertparkerx> It seems to be running fine
[17:51] <robertparkerx> I just noticed that. It's usually green.
[17:51] <robertparkerx> I recentl apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[17:51] <vathsan64> My bad https://termbin.com/ikwi
[17:51] <vathsan64> ioria , it also said you have held broken packages
[17:51] <jrgilman> hey there, just did a 19.10 -> 20.04 upgrade (I have a full disk backup from before the upgrade), and I'm now trying to iron out the kinks. Anyone run into this yet? https://imgur.com/0Sr8vz5
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: router or firewall block?
[17:52] <jrgilman> fonts are intermittently displaying and strange graphical glitches all over
[17:52] <ioria> vathsan64,  it was only a simulation
[17:52] <vathsan64> Yea, I understand. ioria
[17:52] <robertparkerx> hmm
[17:53] <ubique> good evening all.  I have a problem on around line 100.  any advice?  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pwWBw73DR5/
[17:54] <mgedmin> jrgilman: oof, what sort of graphics card does your computer have?  I've seen no problems on Intel UHD Graphics 620
[17:54] <jrgilman> Optimus
[17:54] <jrgilman> one sec for the combo
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> ubique: did you full-upgrade aswell?
[17:54] <jrgilman> apparently this is not unusual
[17:54] <jrgilman> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231824/fuzzy-graphics-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-20-04
[17:54] <jrgilman> sec
[17:54] <ioria> vathsan64,  ok.... so i suggest a fresh install ; please come back here when it's done
[17:55] <vathsan64> Fresh install of ubuntu 20.04?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: did you try 435 nvidia version?
[17:55] <vathsan64> Yeap, we did all 3 lotuspsychje
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[17:56] <iq> Hi, On Windows I use mRemoteNG to select servers out of list to SSH into. Any tools/scripts that give you ability to select a server to SSH into out of herical order on Linux/Terminal (non-GUI)?
[17:56] <EriC^^> Syzygy: what's the path of terminology? try "which terminology"
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: did we see your dmesg ?
[17:57] <vathsan64> What is that? lotuspsychje
[17:57] <jrgilman> mgedmin: Nvidia Quadro P500 + Intel UHD 620
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | vathsan64
[17:57] <jrgilman> trying the solution in this stack overflow
[17:57] <vathsan64> Btw this was my 8th time newly installing Ubuntu 20.04 ober thr past few weeks
[17:58] <mgedmin> jrgilman: actually I also use Wayland!  that askubuntu question mentions that as a possible fix
[17:58] <mgedmin> huh, didn't realize this might matter
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: pastebin your dmesg, lets have a look what else could be wrong
[17:58] <vathsan64> https://termbin.com/vaoys9 lotuspsychje
[17:59] <vathsan64> I think the final few are from when I paired by BT earphones
[17:59] <EriC^^> ubique: do you need the package bluez-firmware?
[17:59] <vathsan64> Should I reinstall ubuntu then ioria lotuspsychje
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: You have booted with nomodeset. This means your GPU drivers are DISABLED
[18:00] <vathsan64> Yes, else it will blank after grub.
[18:00] <ubique> lotuspsychje> sudo apt update.  sudo apt upgrade
[18:00] <jrgilman> mgedmin: fixed by deleting that driver
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> ubique: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade too
[18:02] <ubique>  lotuspsychje> will that upgrade to 20.04?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> ubique: no
[18:02] <robertparkerx> lotuspsychje the plugin rutracker_check is not working. I think this is why it is happening
[18:02] <robertparkerx> rutracker_check: Plugin will not work. Webserver user must have execute access to the rtorrent session directory (/mnt/HC_Volume_4264023/torrent/.session/).
[18:02] <ubique> ok ill do it now. what do you think the problem was?
[18:03] <vathsan64> Shall I go ahead and reinstall ubuntu? ioria lotuspsychje
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: if you say, you reinstalled fresh 8 times, and keep stuck at the same issues over and over?
[18:04] <robertparkerx> If I add www-data user to my torrentdata group will it also have execution access?
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: wich ubuntu version was the last version that actually worked on your system?
[18:05] <vathsan64> 19.10 lotuspsychje
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: had no nvidia issues there?
[18:06] <vathsan64> I had that upgraded from 18.04 , didn't fresh install.
[18:06] <EriC^^> robertparkerx: what kind of filesystem is mounted there? try "mount | grep -iE "mnt|volume""
[18:06] <vathsan64> No. lotuspsychje
[18:06] <robertparkerx> ext4
[18:07] <EriC^^> robertparkerx: aha, can you paste the line it gives? it might have some options
[18:07] <robertparkerx> - /dev/sdb on /mnt/HC_Volume_4264023 type ext4 (rw,relatime,discard,data=ordered)
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: try install nvidia 435 and pastebin the complete output of apt please
[18:07] <vathsan64> Ok I'll do that
[18:08] <EriC^^> robertparkerx: ok, i'd just add your torrent user to have access to that dir
[18:08] <robertparkerx> it says web user needs it
[18:08] <robertparkerx> my torrent user already has access
[18:09] <EriC^^> robertparkerx: what's your torrent user's id?
[18:09] <robertparkerx> rtorrent : rtorrent torrentdata drwxrwx---   2 rtorrent torrentdata 110592 May 14 19:58 .session
[18:09] <ubique> lotuspsychje>   https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rvxHkR2cqJ/  the results
[18:10] <EriC^^> robertparkerx: type "sudo -Hsu rtorrent"
[18:10] <robertparkerx> uid=1001(rtorrent) gid=1001(rtorrent) groups=1001(rtorrent),1003(torrentdata)
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> ubique: try to purge bluez-firmware and try again full-upgrade
[18:10] <robertparkerx> oh
[18:10] <EriC^^> robertparkerx: then try "cd /mnt/HC_Volume_4264023/torrent/"
[18:11] <ubique> lotuspsychje>  how do i do that? im new to this stuff
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> ubique: sudo apt purge bluez-firmware
[18:11] <ubique> lotuspsychje>  thank you
[18:15] <ubique> the result: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3pcQ2ZCWQc/
[18:16] <ubique> the result: lotuspsychje>
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> ubique: sudo apt autoremove
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> ubique: seems to be bug #1839054
[18:19] <ubique> lotuspsychje>  thats done
[18:19] <oerheks> fix is this: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-firmware-raspi2_1.20190215-0ubuntu0.18.04.1_armhf.deb
[18:19] <oerheks> oh, no errors now
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> ubique: you still could try reinstall bluez-firmware now, as a test to see what it will do
[18:20] <ubique> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4qgGQphyHz/ result
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> ubique: if you have a launchpad account, please also affect this bug
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> looks good ubique
[18:21] <ubique> i dont have a launchpad account
[18:22] <vathsan64> Here you go lotuspsychje https://pastebin.pl/view/60a1be84
[18:23] <vathsan64> If you said anything after your reply to unique : sudo apt autoremovr, I couldn't catch it iwas dc. Sorry!
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: install looks good, reboot?
[18:24] <vathsan64> Ok
[18:24] <ubique> lotuspsychje>  anything else i need to do?
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> ubique: you 'could' try sudo apt install bluez-firmware to see if apt still gives errors
[18:26] <ubique> lotuspsychje> ok
[18:26] <vathsan64> I logged in, but after a few seconds on the desktop it freezes
[18:26] <vathsan64> lotuspsychje
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: freezes how?
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> complete stuck? or screen flashes?
[18:27] <vathsan64> Can't move mouse, no kb input
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: you still have screen?
[18:27] <vathsan64> Yup
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> hmmm, this might be something else then graphics
[18:27] <vathsan64> Tried opening tty, it won't.
[18:28] <vassenn> lotuspsychje: may be bluetooth mouse?
[18:28] <ubique> result     lotuspsychje>   https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jSg4MGNfkN/
[18:28] <mgedmin> vathsan64: by "opening tty" do you mean ctrl-alt-t, or ctrl-alt-f3?
[18:29] <duncan-nz> since upgrade to 20.04 i can't detect displays added to my ThinkPad Ultra USB3 dock. worked fine under 19.10. what should i be looking into?
[18:29] <vathsan64> Tty is f3 , console is t
[18:29] <mgedmin> vathsan64: does capslock work?  is the HDD LED lit?  does anything happen if you press alt-sysrq-s to sync the disk?
[18:29] <vathsan64> I'm a cs student 😅
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> ubique: yeah, that didnt work, you will have to force it like oerheks adviced
[18:29] <ubique> ok
[18:30] <vathsan64> Capslock doesn't work, but kb light is changing
[18:30] <ubique> sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-firmware-raspi2_1.20190215-0ubuntu0.18.04.1_armhf.deb
[18:30] <Syzygy> EriC^^, snap/bin/terminology, sorry for the late reply
[18:30] <ubique> is that what you mean?
[18:30] <mgedmin> vathsan64: ah, so not _totally_ dead then!  but tty switching isn't working, hmm, I'm not sure what to suggest
[18:31] <vathsan64> Alt sysrq s doesn't do anything
[18:31] <vathsan64> So either I go back to 18.04 or use the laptop with 20.04 for a while..
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: what you could do is before the freeze output dmesg to a .txt, so volunteers can analyze it after
[18:31] <vathsan64> With nomodeset
[18:31] <mgedmin> do you have a second machine you could use to ssh in and poke around while this is happening?
[18:32] <echelon> how do i find out why my cron job isn't running?
[18:32] <echelon> where's the cron logs?
[18:32] <vathsan64> I'll try it lotuspsychje
[18:32] <EriC^^> Syzygy: no worries, try sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator x-terminal-emulator /snap/bin/terminology 50
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: i recall an issue like this, where realtek chipset made screen flicker/freeze on kernel version, this might be such a case
[18:33] <EriC^^> Syzygy: then sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
 oerheks>  results https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TpDt6KGZtk/
[18:33] <vathsan64> I can ssh through my phone if you want mgedmin
[18:34] <EriC^^> echelon: there aren't unless you have a mta installed, you can add to your command in cron > /tmp/mycronlog 2>&1   to see the output
[18:34] <vathsan64> Should I try ubuntu budgie or lubuntu something?
[18:34] <vathsan64> Or distro hop to something else entirely
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: check to boot with this: intel_idle.max_cstate=4 as a test
[18:35] <vathsan64> Umm how or where do I run this lotuspsychje
[18:35] <echelon> EriC^^: i see the cron events starting in /var/log/syslog, but the script i'm running is supposed to write to a log file
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: also try to catch your dmesg into a .txt so volunteers can see
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> im off for today
[18:35] <echelon> when i run it manually it writes, but not when cron launches it
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> good luck vathsan64
[18:35] <echelon> is there a cron user?
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> vathsan64: edit grub at boot and add the line
[18:36] <vathsan64> Haha if I reboot it goes blank now.. I'll txt it and send a link here?
[18:36] <EriC^^> echelon: no, but the environment is different, like $HOME might be different etc
[18:36] <echelon> i'm not referencing $HOME in the script
[18:36] <echelon> it's using a directory in /opt/
[18:37] <EriC^^> echelon: hmm, i'd try adding the output in the command in cron, it should show exactly what's going on
[18:37] <ubique>  lotuspsychje>  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TpDt6KGZtk/
[18:38] <Gwalenn> hi, can I set 2 hdd in raid with windows and another hdd dedicated to Ubuntu ?
[18:40] <Syzygy> EriC^^, that kinda worked, but now the ctrl + alt + T shortcut doens't work anymore.
[18:41] <echelon> EriC^^: oh.. CRON[6217]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[18:41] <GR1M0R4CL3_> hello
[18:41] <EriC^^> echelon: yeah
[18:42] <echelon> EriC^^: what if i redirect the output to a file in the cron command line?
[18:43] <EriC^^> Syzygy: aha, seems it has to do with snap somehow, i get the same issue if i use a /snap/...
[18:44] <EriC^^> Syzygy: maybe try to install the non-snap terminology?
[18:45] <EriC^^> echelon: yeah, that would work, i suggested it earlier but i think you missed it
[18:45] <echelon> i misunderstood it
[18:46] <echelon> EriC^^: found the problem! thanks!
[18:47] <EriC^^> echelon: great! no problem
[18:48] <EriC^^> ubique: try "sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/bluez-firmware_1.2-4+rpt1~bionic1.0_all.deb"
[18:49] <EriC^^> ubique: then run "sudo apt-get install pi-bluetooth" since it also had removed that earlier with bluez-firmware's removal
[18:52] <tripelb> https://youtu.be/y6h8TIxeg1g this virus loves our tissues.
[18:54] <tripelb> It is amazing to have li Ed so long as to see this period of the story of humans on earth. I can see a sort of beginning and end to a cycle of overpopulation.
[18:54] <tripelb> Oops wrong network.
[18:56] <Rumen> HI there, just to ask if you know, because I can't find. Is there any Linux p7s digital signer?
[18:58] <Syzygy> EriC^^, nope, even when installed via apt-get i can't open it via ctrl + alt + T
[19:00] <rudeguy> hi, is there any way to set stuff like night light and mouse speed on the login screen?
[19:06] <EriC^^> Syzygy: did you set the default one again after installing using update-alternatives --config?
[19:10] <mbuf> I am trying to rebuild 4.15.0-99-generic Linux kernel on Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS, and after "apt-get source linux-source" and using "fakeroot debian/rules editconfigs" tells me "make: *** No rule to make target 'editconfigs'. Stop.". How do I load the default .config file to change it and rebuild the kernel? I am following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[19:15] <mgedmin> mbuf: no you're not: that wiki page tells you to apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r), not apt-get source linux-source
[19:16] <mbuf> mgedmin, I tried linux-image-* earlier, and it said "Unknown sequence editconfigs"
[19:25] <mgedmin> huh! the wiki page must be out of date
[19:26] <mbuf> So, how are the Ubuntu kernel developers building the kernel at present?
[19:27] <mgedmin> no, 'editconfigs' is defined right here: https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-focal.git/tree/debian/rules.d/1-maintainer.mk#n42
[19:27] <mgedmin> wait, 18.04, not 20.04, so bionic, not focal
[19:27] <mgedmin> still, https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-bionic.git/tree/debian/rules.d/1-maintainer.mk#n42 looks the same to me
[19:30] <mbuf> What command do I need to use with fakeroot debian/rules to customize the .config file?
[19:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> hello
[19:47] <mbuf> mgedmin, got help from #ubuntu-kernel; thanks!
[19:47] <mbuf> later
[20:07] <Mercury> Alright, I've got a really weird one.  I'm on Ubuntu, running the gnome desktop, on Wayland.  Normal cut and paste works everywhere except VMWare Workstation.  For VMWare Workstation, I have clipboard syncing enabled for my VM, and it works for cutting and pasting into and out of FireFox and Thunderbird, but not into and out of any other gnome applications.
[20:08] <Mercury> wl-copy and wl-paste can see the selections I make with both firefox and gnome applications just fine.  But putting something in the clipboard with wl-copy doesn't make it visible to VMWare.  Same deal with xclip.
[20:08] <Mercury> But I can copy something from Firefox or Thunderbird, I just have no bloody clue what they are doing differently to make that possible.
[20:12] <dyool> list
[20:15] <WatchDog> wine msoffice 2007 or 2010
[20:15] <oerheks> for wine polls, please see #winehq
[20:15] <oerheks> !wine
[20:15] <Mordoc> Mercury: Could be wrong but isn't Firefox a Wayland app now?
[20:16] <oerheks> i was looking for simular bugreports, find no wayland ones
[20:16] <Mercury> Mordoc: That's an interesting question.  And with a bit of poking, Ubuntu isn't running it in wayland mode by default.
[20:16] <oerheks> vmware issue, i guess.
[20:17] <Mercury> And interestingly, running it in wayland mode results in not being able to copy out of it into vmware.
[20:17] <oerheks> .. only FF and Thunderbird?
[20:17] <Mercury> So what copy buffer is vmware _using_?  I'm expecting xclip to be accessing the x11 xwayland clipboard.
[20:18] <Mercury> eoli3n: So far.  It's possible that other stuff would work, but xclip can't put stuff in a buffer vmware is seeing, nor can wl-copy, nor can gedit or a terminal.
[20:18] <Mercury> Hm, Chromium is managing to put it into whatever buffer vmware is grabbing from...
[20:22] <Mercury> I can cut out of vmware into stuff just fine...
[20:26] <oerheks> Mercury, try a Xorg session, if it happens again, vmware issue
[20:27] <Mercury> oerheks: Reasonable.
[20:27] <oerheks> if not, worth filing a bug against wayland
[20:28] <Mordoc> Mercury: Interesting that Chromium can do this.
[20:28] <oerheks> or open-vm-tools-desktop??
[20:28] <oerheks> !info open-vm-tools-desktop
[20:28] <Mercury> open-vw-dool-desktop would be for a Linux guest.  This is actually a Windows Guest on a Linux Host.
[20:28] <Mercury> Mordoc: Yeah...
[20:29] <Mercury> I'm really curious how Firefox is copying text into the selection buffer/clipboard.
[20:30] <Mercury> Not that digging through the firefox source is going to be trivial.
[20:37] <iconoclasthero> where's the best place to get help with boot issues?  system is presently multi-boot:  20.04, 20.04, & 18.04.
[20:37] <iconoclasthero> (i.e., no windows only ubuntu)
[20:42] <lord4163> iconoclasthero: just ask your question
[20:42] <deanc> Hi. I have a "fake monitor" HDMI stick so that i can use nomachine without any physical display. It was working pretty okay, and it is theoretically possible it's malfunctioned, but i doubt it. When I run sudo xrand --query (extent of my linux display cli knowledge) I get "Can't open display" - where to go from here?
[20:42] <deanc> I should be clear, it no longer works - nomachine gives a black screen - which correlated with the output of xrandr
[20:43] <SomethingGeneric> Does anyone have links for KVM on Ubuntu?
[20:43] <SomethingGeneric> Google's not v helpful
[20:44] <sarnold> SomethingGeneric: you'll probably have to be a lot more specific about what you're looking for
[20:44] <SomethingGeneric> sarnold, sorry. Specifically I'm looking for help with guest networking. The tutorials on the (redhat) sponsored website about how to do bridges on ubuntu didn't work for me.
[20:45] <sarnold> SomethingGeneric: are you running qemu by hand? or using libvirt? or lxd? or microstack? or a more full-featured openstack?
[20:46] <SomethingGeneric> KVM with virt-installer. I assume that's libvirt? I'm actually not 100%
[20:47] <SomethingGeneric> sarnold, hadn't heard of microstack. This actually looks a lot better than the KVM virsh and virt-installer things. Thanks!
[20:48] <sarnold> SomethingGeneric: heh, I thought so too :) I've detested libvirt for ages, and *really* wanted the LXD team to add VMs..
[20:48] <sarnold> SomethingGeneric: but now that they have, there's also a handy microstack, and it might be a better fit for what I'm thinking of..
[20:48] <SomethingGeneric> sarnold, irionically, i had followed setting up openstack's devstack by myself. needless to say, that got me in wayyy over my head.
[20:49] <Mercury> deanc: I take it that you're not getting any output out of the stick now?
[20:49] <deanc> Mercury: no output currently
[20:49] <deanc> Mercury: my guess is this happened because I plugged in a physical monitor and it somehow messed up some configuration somewhere
[20:49] <sarnold> SomethingGeneric: so, i fyou want to keep doing libvirt, check out https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/virtualization-libvirt
[20:49] <deanc> I no longer have the physical monitor plugged in :)
[20:50] <SomethingGeneric> sarnold, thanks, but I'm not invested in libvirt, as I had initally been looking for a less hands-on approach anyways.
[20:50] <Mercury> deanc: How are you running xrand?  Are you running Xorg on the unit?  How are you getting the DISPLAY variable to the xrand command?
[20:50] <SomethingGeneric> I'm going to give microstack a try
[20:50] <deanc> Mercury: running it on the cli. no idea if im running xorg on the unit or what that means. Or in fact the second part of your question
[20:51] <deanc> Fairly new to how display stuff works on nix i'm afraid
[20:52] <sarnold> SomethingGeneric: oh cool :D if you can, I'd be curious ot hear how it goes for you
[20:52] <SomethingGeneric> sarnold, I'll be happy to report back on it! Thanks again!
[20:52] <sarnold> thanks SomethingGeneric :D
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 i want it to boot to 20.04 on sda8...which it did, after a fashion.  if I can boot into sda8 at all I'm looking at just 1/4 of my monitors in 640x480.
[20:56] <iconoclasthero> i've run boot repair seemingly dozens of times and i cannot get it to work.
[20:56] <Mercury> deanc: Alright, let's start over a little bit. What do you expect your machine to be displaying to the stick at the moment?
[20:56] <deanc> ubuntu :P
[20:56] <iconoclasthero> w/the /boot on sda2 and w/o it.
[20:56] <deanc> Mercury: forgetting that nomachine just gets a black display, the fact that im not getting anything on the cli indicates there may be some deeper issue at hand
[20:56] <elmagio> Hi. Been having an issue with Ubuntu since I upgraded to 20.04, with my display blinking to black a few times when logging in and when launching Wine programs (more details here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1237614/screen-blinking-to-black-on-20-04)
[20:56] <elmagio> Could anyone assist me in diagnosing the issue? Which log files should I be looking at?
[20:57] <Mercury> deanc: A little more detail?  Are you expecting a text console?  A gdm login screen?  A desktop?
[20:57] <deanc> desktop, sorry
[20:57] <Mercury> Alright, do you have a keyboard and mouse plugged into the system, and you're just using the stick for display purposes?
[20:58] <deanc> I don't have a keyboard or mouse plugged in Mercury, im connected over ssh
[20:58] <Mercury> The reason why xrandr is giving that response via ssh is because it has no idea how to talk to Xorg, which should be driving the desktop.  But I don't entirely understand your configuration.
[20:58] <deanc> Mercury: I'm using the stick so that nomachine/rdp would work without a physical display. It "emulates" as if a display was plugged in
[20:59] <deanc> If you dont have a physical display plugged in with nx/rdp you have to use some horrible hacks to create virtual displays - the fake hdmi stick gets around that
[20:59] <deanc> (and was working well until recently)
[21:00] <sarnold> elmagio: this is way out of my experience, but I think I heard someone with a similar problem recently fixed it by using the intel "iris" driver rather than the driver from xserver-xorg-video-intel
[21:00] <sarnold> elmagio: I don't know the 'right' way to test, but try running apt -s purge xserver-xorg-video-intel and see if the results are scary
[21:02] <keysschool> Hi there, I'm having huge problems getting network folder sharing to work. It worked the first time but after that, no more. If I try to access the Windows Network on Nautilus I get the following error message: "Failed to retrieve share list from server". I'm on Ubuntu MATE Bionic, I have installed the samba integration package (caja-share) and findsmb does list my computer on the network.
[21:03] <elmagio> sarnold: Where would I find that Iris driver?
[21:04] <deanc> Mercury: I just created an /etc/X11/xorg.conf using the template here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/453109/add-fake-display-when-no-monitor-is-plugged-in and rebooted, started nx and it asked me to make a display and I did and now it works :shrug:
[21:04] <deanc> good enough for me :P
[21:05] <Mercury> deanc: Alright.  I'm glad you got it working. :)
[21:05] <deanc> me too! thanks for helping me think
[21:07] <Mercury> Alright, this is definitely a gnome-shell clipboard bug, but I still don't _understand_ it.  If I start up a terminal emulator with WAYLAND_DISPLAY= then I can copy text out of it into vmware.  So, vmware isn't seeing the wayland clipboard.  That makes some level of sense...  But why is xclip/xsel not working?
[21:07] <sarnold> elibrokeit: this is how I expect it to work with the 'iris' driver https://askubuntu.com/a/978289/33812
[21:28] <SudoBash> Can anyone look at this netplan conf and tell me what is wrong and why I can't ping anything on 10.101.7.0?
[21:28] <SudoBash>  https://pastebin.com/kXCfiwy5
[21:30] <sarnold> SudoBash: is it expected that a 'via' host within a 'to' range is reachable?
[21:38] <SudoBash> I should be able to hit it yes
[21:54] <JordiGH> The snap store has non-free software, right? There's no requirement to put stuff there with a free license?
[21:56] <sarnold> right
[22:26] <MikeRL> Question, I'm on Ubuntu 20.04, and want to use a Bluetooth 4.0 external adapter over the laptaop's internal 4.2 Intel one because the connection on the Intel BT is unreliable on Windows and Linux. Succeeded in disabling the Intel one on Windows. Need help on Linux.
[22:27] <fiermisi> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu 20.04 and my internet connection will work for 5 minutes and then stop. Each time I have to turn off wifi from settings and then back on and it will resume on working.
[22:27] <MikeRL> I also get less latency and lag for some strange reason. I think Ubuntu sees the BT version on the internal one as higher and just uses it. I tried some commands, can't remember the specifics, but the system detects both of the adapters. First question is, how do I know which one is being used?
[22:28] <fiermisi> My wireless card is RT5390
[22:28] <MikeRL> Following question would be how in earth do I disable the internal Intel one?
[22:29] <MikeRL> Hmm. Have you tried disabling power saving?
[22:30] <MikeRL> It can be done via Settings and via the terminal. Not sure if it'll fix it, but it may be worth trying. It should be under Power in the Control Center.
[22:30] <peter22222> is there a way to install a vnc server on ubuntu mate? i installed vino.. i cannot get into any preferences, just starting the server with /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[22:32] <MikeRL> I say so because I had WiFi issues on an unofficial Pi 4 build of 18.04 and power saving was the first thing I've tried. It didn't like 5GHz networks.
[22:33] <WaV> peter22222: You can edit the preferences via terminal
[22:33] <peter22222> WaV how can i do that? there is no command "vino-preferences"
[22:34] <peter22222> WaV you know where the config files are?
[22:35] <WaV> open terminal --> "gsettings list-keys org.gnome.Vino"
[22:35] <WaV> It'll give you 15 options or so
[22:35] <MikeRL> Hmm. Maybe rfkill will help me?
[22:36] <peter22222> WaV ah thank you
[22:36] <WaV> You can set the different options up via the terminal. Example: "gsettings set org.gnome.Vino notify-on-connect true"
[22:37] <peter22222> aaaha ok... cool thank you... anybody know why its not implemented in MATE like in Gnome?
[22:38] <peter22222> and how can i make the server run from start?
[22:40] <WaV> Don't have a good answer for you there. I run Vino at user login. I've had no success setting it up as a boot process.
[22:41] <WaV> My method is more functional than it is preferable.
[22:42] <MikeRL> Ok new issue. Now rfkill status is lost when restarting BT Service.
[22:46] <MikeRL> Toggling BT also resets rfkill status. What to do?
[22:46] <MikeRL> I basically want to permanately block the internal BT adapter.
[22:47] <sarnold> MikeRL: if lspci -v shows it using one driver and the one you want to use using another driver, you might be able to use /etc/modules* something to blacklist the bad driver
[22:50] <peter22222> i found the gui of vino, hidden in the menu... why the heck are people doing that... well it also gave me an error message... failed to open preferences
[22:50] <disi> how do i type-annotate this? https://gist.github.com/tucked/b0552753e115cb9941a95e2043e7eb17
[22:50] <peter22222> but by calling "remote desktop" the vino-server is starting at least
[22:50] <disi> ugh, sry wrong chan
[22:51] <MikeRL> sarnold, I don't see anything that looks like either bluetooth controller. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kQH3ZVtBkb/
[22:51] <MikeRL> sarnold, I see graphics driver and audio drivers, for example.
[22:52] <three> what kind of a machine are you on? why dont you just take out the bluetooth adapter?
[22:52] <MikeRL> A laptop. Because it's made to be hell to remove anything from it. Last time I tried to do something with it I broke the board.
[22:53] <MikeRL> OEM systems suck. Never again.
[22:54] <three> whats the issue the bluetooth adapter is causing?
[22:54] <sarnold> MikeRL: hmm, okay, then they're probably hooked up over usb.. how about lspci | grep -i blue  ? does that show what looks like two drivers?
[22:54] <MikeRL> A lot of audio lag in games, music, etc. Distorted audio.
[22:54] <sarnold> $ lsmod | grep -i blue
[22:54] <sarnold> bluetooth             581632  5 btrtl,btintel,btbcm,btusb
[22:54] <sarnold> ecdh_generic           16384  1 bluetooth
[22:54] <MikeRL> It's disabled in Windows 10.
[22:54] <sarnold> that's my x1, with only the one usb thing afaik
[22:55] <MikeRL> It's disabled in Windows 10.
[22:55] <MikeRL> Oops.
[22:56] <MikeRL> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZY87C4477c/
[22:56] <three> What kind of a laptop do you have specifically?
[22:56] <MikeRL> OEM model HP-Envy m7-n101dx.
[22:56] <sarnold> MikeRL: this looks promising, btrtl probably from realtek, btintel from intel
[22:57] <MikeRL> sarnold, The broadcom one I want enabled. It doesn't glitch out.
[22:57] <MikeRL> sarnold, How can I blacklist them?
[22:58] <sarnold> MikeRL: nice nice. so, try adding a new file, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-intel-bluetooth.conf with the line: blacklist btintel
[22:59] <MikeRL> sarnold, Thanks. Then when done is there a way to reload that or should I reboot?
[23:00] <MikeRL> sarnold, I edited and saved the file.
[23:00] <MikeRL> I also wrote down the steps so I don't ask a duplicate question.
[23:01] <sarnold> MikeRL: probably reboot is best -- module unloading is slightly unsafe operation
[23:01] <sarnold> MikeRL: besides, it'd be nice to make sure it stays bodged :)
[23:02] <MikeRL> OK. Will reboot. How do I tell if it's disabled?
[23:02] <sarnold> check lsmod | grep blue  again, and see if btintel is listed or not
[23:13] <oerheks> rfkill list all
[23:15] <sarnold> handy, thanks oerheks
[23:19] <MikeRL> New problem now. I even first removed the old earbuds that were paired with the Intel BT chip. Now, the Broadcom BT adapter will "connect", but sound still comes out the speakers.
[23:20] <MikeRL> I wonder if I need a special driver or if it works with Linux properly. It was advertised as Linux compatible.
[23:20] <MikeRL> Unfortunately the order with the adapter was with an old Amazon account.
[23:20] <MikeRL> No longer have access to it.
[23:21] <MikeRL> So I can successfully disable the bad adapter, but I know of no adapter guaranteed to work with Linux.
[23:21] <MikeRL> Does anyone have any recommendations that are BT 4.0 at least?
[23:22] <MikeRL> Amazon sellers are good at lying.
[23:22] <three> do you have pulse audio installed? It would be useful to see how your sound is outputing
[23:22] <MikeRL> Yes pulseaudio.
[23:23] <three> can you force it to play through your headphones?
[23:23] <MikeRL> How so?
[23:23] <Bashing-om> !sound | MikeRL
[23:23] <MikeRL> I already tried the GUI and it fails to show the earbuds.
[23:23] <sarnold> cripes, that thing lists alsa stuff?
[23:24] <MikeRL> Bot needs an update.
[23:24] <sarnold> pavucontrol usually is enough for folks to redirect the audio tot he right place
[23:25] <SomethingGeneric> Hey sarnold! I've been messing around with MicroStack for a bit now. Two things to note: It's built as a Ubuntu specific version of OpenStack (which itself is a fairly finicky thing) I couldn't get it to install in focal, I had to downgrade to bionic to install. Also, Canonical doesn't have any of it's own docs for MicroStack, they completley redirect you to OpenStack for that.
[23:25] <SomethingGeneric> (and to anyone else, too)
[23:25] <sarnold> SomethingGeneric: hmm, I got it to *install* on my focal power9 machine but never actually got around to trying it
[23:25] <MikeRL> So under the GUI they're shown as disonneted with the pair button greyed out. Will check other application.
[23:26] <SomethingGeneric> sarnold, weird. May have been because I'd messed with the network. Some component under MicroStack hung indefinitley. So now, I'm trying to see how much I can update it before it breaks again... lmao
[23:26] <MikeRL> Pavucontrol says Headphones (unplugged)
[23:28] <MikeRL> Could it be that Broadcom hates Linux?
[23:28] <SomethingGeneric> ^ broadcom, probably not. But your specific device?? Probably.
[23:29] <MikeRL> Are there any devices that work as advertised with Linux? This one claimed to be compatible. It lied.
[23:30] <sarnold> SomethingGeneric: well, dang. I'll probably not get around to trying it in any depth until weekend
[23:31] <MikeRL> I see examples on the wiki but they're dated.
[23:31] <SomethingGeneric> sarnold, for the lols im trying to install it on my desktop box under focal, too. Though they say it's most stable on bionic I see no reason that focal couldn't also work.
[23:31] <MikeRL> I'd take anything 4.0 and up with low energy if possible.
[23:32] <SomethingGeneric> MikeRL, I missed the start of your convo with sarnold. You're trying to figure out a bluetooth audio device?
[23:32] <MikeRL> SomethingGeneric, Yes. I don't think it likes Linux.
[23:32] <MikeRL> SomethingGeneric, Such device worked fine in Windows with the Intel one disabled. The integrated Intel one has a lot of issues.
[23:33] <SomethingGeneric> MikeRL, sorry, then I can't help you out. My linux machines are built from parts without bluetooth :(
[23:33] <MikeRL> SomethingGeneric, Well, you tried I guess.
[23:33] <SomethingGeneric> I just perked up when I heard Broadcom b/c I'd had to work around a broadcom network controller once for ubuntu.
[23:33] <SomethingGeneric> Sorry!
[23:34] <RoseBus> anyone else have issues with chromium xdg-open not opening anything
[23:35] <SomethingGeneric> For me xdg-open is just a whole mess from any browser, except firefox, as it was..... :/
[23:36] <oerheks> for chromium, go into softwarecenter > installed > chromium > permissions
[23:37] <oerheks> i just count 13 options..
[23:38] <three> MikeRL this might be useful wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/bluetooth#Bluetooth_USB_Dongle
[23:49] <MikeRL> Crazy. Doing bluetoothctl and scan and power on makes it work.
[23:49] <MikeRL> But it does not work at all via Control Center. Why?
[23:50] <MikeRL> Is there any way I can automate that without the Gnome Control Center?
[23:50] <MikeRL> Like make bluetoothctl just run and scan?
[23:52] <MikeRL> That arch page worked. But it's not automated.
[23:54] <Betal> MikeRL: it have other sections for automation, look 3.1, also first Tip on Front-ends/console
[23:57] <SomethingGeneric> MikeRL, with scripts, anything can be automated (not that everything *should be* but that's not the point)