[01:34] <Munsko> Hello. Is possible to "request" to muon package manager to install another language package?(i mean instead of PACK_ENG install PACK_DE when im having the SO in eng)
[02:05] <Munsko> Hello again. Somebody know how can i add a new "locale" to my SO?
[02:06] <Munsko> I want switch the lang of some apps, but its only possible if i change the SO language
[02:43] <wxl> Munsko: is this helpful? https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.9/locale.html
[02:44] <wxl> note i am fairly confident some apps don't have complete translations
[02:45] <Munsko> Really thanks, i dont wanted to touch anything on terminal before be very sure of what were doing
[02:45] <Munsko> This affects my keyboard distribution or just only the language?
[02:46] <Munsko> I switched to hexchat and the translation is very confusing(is from GKT i think, like the gui)
[02:46] <wxl> keyboard is separate https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.8/keyboard_and_mouse.html
[02:47] <wxl> what do you like about hexchat you can't find in quassel?
[02:48] <Munsko> Well, i tried to get something called External SASL
[02:48] <Munsko> and didtn found it there
[02:48] <wxl> oi
[02:48] <Munsko> That was for get a bit of more security
[02:48] <wxl> for freenode?
[02:48] <Munsko> I think its called encriptation
[02:48] <Munsko> yes
[02:49] <Munsko> i done the key and those things
[02:49] <Munsko> but didnt found the option of external sasl
[02:49] <wxl> you mean this? https://freenode.net/kb/answer/quassel
[02:49] <Munsko> Well
[02:49] <Munsko> i was in that one
[02:49] <Munsko> but theres one slightly different
[02:49] <Munsko> thats is "Plain" SASL
[02:49] <Munsko> and another one is External SASL
[02:49] <Munsko> i dont get the differences by the way
[02:50] <wxl> so how do you know they're different? XD
[02:50] <Munsko> All started trying to get a bit more of privacy
[02:50] <Munsko> Because in hex you have the 2 options
[02:50] <wxl> use tor and a vpn; done
[02:50] <Munsko> All started from that
[02:50] <Munsko> But didnt know how configure the quassel to do it
[02:50] <wxl> they are different. plain is for passwords, external can be many things
[02:51] <Munsko> With the key
[02:51] <Munsko> I used this tutorial : "https://geekyshacklebolt.wordpress.com/2018/07/01/how-to-configure-sasl-external-on-hexchat/"
[02:52] <wxl> i bet the part here re: konversation is what you want https://freenode.net/kb/answer/certfp
[02:52] <Munsko> I think the external "mode" is for the cert. thing
[02:52] <Munsko> I done almost that thing
[02:53] <Munsko> Just in hexchat
[02:53] <Munsko> Then the problem was the translation, is a bit confusing(im in spanish)
[02:53] <wxl> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4422#appendix-A
[02:54] <Munsko> Looks a techincal thing
[02:55] <Munsko> You're very fast to get those things XD
[02:55] <wxl> i remember this from when i set it up before
[02:55] <Munsko> You archieved it on quassel too?
[02:55] <wxl> but i use irssi and don't waste my precious resources on adding graphics to text XD
[02:56] <Munsko> Well, this thing looks like W98
[02:56] <Munsko> not so beautiful
[02:56] <wxl> yeah, about that…
[02:57] <Munsko> But its because is gtk
[02:57] <Munsko> and im on LXQt
[02:57] <wxl> i KNOW! i can't believe you WANT to use it for that reason XD
[02:57] <Munsko> lol
[02:57] <Munsko> I like quassel
[02:57] <Munsko> but i think i need that function too
[02:57] <Munsko> (the ext. sasl)
[02:58] <Munsko> Im very noob, but just try to get a bit more of security
[02:58] <wxl> you have a vpn?
[02:58] <Munsko> They have given me the .onion thing in the #freenode chat
[02:59] <Munsko> So i think yes, dont know really
[02:59] <wxl> oh sigh
[02:59] <wxl> the only thing worse than no security is bad security so be careful
[02:59] <Munsko> Yes, thats like have a cloak to get secure
[02:59] <wxl> that's security by obfuscation which is a bit of a farce
[03:00] <Munsko> Well, i just found that i didnt putted the onion thing
[03:00] <Munsko> XD
[03:01] <Munsko> Where i should put it?
[03:01] <wxl> you need to figure out tor and that's not necessarily easy
[03:04] <Munsko> Well, just tried it as server adress and not worked XD
[03:05] <wxl> right, you need to be connected to tor
[03:05] <Munsko> That isnt the same thing that have tor open?
[03:05] <wxl> uh
[03:06] <wxl> you mean the tor browser?
[03:06] <Munsko> Yes
[03:06] <Munsko> XD
[03:06] <wxl> no
[03:06] <wxl> i mean yes
[03:06] <wxl> but no
[03:06] <Munsko> lol
[03:06] <wxl> you are connected to the tor network
[03:06] <wxl> but only via the browser
[03:06] <Munsko> yes
[03:06] <wxl> you're not configured to connect to it from your irc client
[03:06] <Munsko> Yes
[03:07] <Munsko> i need that step i think
[03:07] <wxl> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/HexChat
[03:08] <wxl> ew that might be out of date XD
[03:09] <Munsko> XD
[03:10] <Munsko> Well, the only one problem are the images
[03:11] <Munsko> they contain the info of fields, but looks like were deleted(dont load)
[03:12] <wxl> combine with this and you'll probably figure it out XD https://anonops.com/xchat.html
[03:16] <Munsko> Freenode port is 6690,right?
[03:16] <Munsko> nevermind
[03:19] <Munsko> Im on work, looks like almost done
[03:22] <Munsko> Did u have idea wheres the tor username or smth like that?
[03:22] <wxl> huh?
[03:22] <Munsko> https://anonops.com/xchat.html#AboutTOR
[03:23] <Munsko> Im in this step(i need to do that before the other link)
[03:23] <wxl> ok yeah i sent that to give you some idea about tor
[03:23] <wxl> not so you could connecto to anonops
[03:23] <Munsko> XD
[03:24] <Munsko> I think they refeer to my irc username
[03:24] <wxl> i mean that's what it's about but you don't want to use irc.anonops.com or anonops532vcpz6z.onion
[03:25] <wxl> just reconsider it in terms of freenode
[03:25] <wxl> i know english is not your first language and that may be easier said than done but hopefully that makes sense :)
[03:26] <Munsko> Yes, i understand that
[03:26] <Munsko> I changed the port and the .onion
[03:26] <Munsko> the problem now is that looks like i need a step more
[03:26] <Munsko> so tor can recognize irc and it runs via proxy
[03:27] <wxl> yeah the proxy is the key
[03:35] <Munsko> Looks difficult to do
[03:35] <Munsko> -.-
[03:36] <wxl> not really
[03:36] <wxl> but it's more hard than clicking a button XD
[03:36] <Munsko> Well, i dont it to work, so is hard at least for me XD
[03:36] <Munsko> it dont work for me*
[03:38] <wxl> well, tl;dr you need a socks5 proxy to localhost:9150
[03:39] <wxl> that's how you set up hexchat
[03:39] <Munsko> oh
[03:39] <Munsko> almost reached
[03:40] <Munsko> now it says "port closed in the remote device"
[03:40] <Munsko> and try to reconnect in loop
[03:40] <wxl> do you have the tor browser open?
[03:40] <Munsko> yes
[03:41] <wxl> in terminal try this:
[03:41] <wxl> nc -v localhost 9150
[03:41] <wxl> let me know what happens
[03:41] <Munsko> lol
[03:41] <Munsko> i understand
[03:41] <Munsko> its the firewall -.-
[03:41] <wxl> possibly
[03:42] <Munsko> i activated the ifgui
[03:42] <Munsko> or whatever its name
[03:43] <Munsko> The problem now is create the exception
[03:44] <Munsko> "nc: connect to localhost port 9150 (tcp) failed: Connection refused
[03:44] <Munsko> "
[03:44] <Munsko> "Connection to localhost 9150 port [tcp/*] succeeded!"
[03:44] <Munsko> Those 2 lines are the command drops
[03:47] <Munsko> Found the problem
[03:47] <Munsko> Now the error is tor sasl
[03:52] <wxl> hm
[04:15] <Munsko> Well, i give up
[04:15] <Munsko> Thanks for helping my btw
[14:31] <AlirezaAbba> I just watched distro watch for a moment. all linux distros got the red mark and went down in popularity. why?
[14:35] <Munsko> That depends of the tab that u are watching
[14:36] <Munsko> If u put last 7 days i saw almost all distros with the mark down
[14:36] <Munsko> But that section rates the "hits per day"
[14:37] <Munsko> At the contrary, if u check "trending 7 days" almost all distros figures with mark up
[14:39] <redbullfrog> hola, alguien habla español
[14:42] <chraso> hey guys, how do i install default ubuntu desktop environment(which is gnome i think) on lubuntu?
[14:43] <Munsko> Well, if u are in 20.04 check for the pagacke maganer(muon), theres a package called "gnome"
[14:43] <Munsko> It says that is the gnome desktop
[14:43] <Munsko> and will install the dependencies too
[14:44] <Munsko> But imnot sure if its the best way to install the DE(desktop enviroment)
[14:44] <Munsko> You have gnome-core too
[14:44] <Munsko> the 1st one is FULL DE
[14:44] <Munsko> the 2nd one is the essential things
[14:47] <Munsko> wxl i got my tor thing :)
[15:08] <Afdal> Is the 20.04 graphic installer really not capable of selecting both non-logical volumes (partitions) and logical volumes at the same time?
[16:56] <Deano59> hi there!
[16:57] <Deano59> can I download 20.04 LTS with a torrent?
[17:10] <wxl> Munsko: cool. what were you missing yesterday?
[17:10] <Munsko> The problem was the name of the cert
[17:10] <Munsko> SIlly thing :D
[17:10] <Munsko> It should be the same of the server name that u put on the client
[17:11] <wxl> silly indeed
[17:11] <wxl> glad you got it figured out
[17:11] <wxl> i should probably torify all my irc connections
[17:17] <Munsko> I can help u :D
[17:17] <Munsko> I detailed it on a document for future formats
[17:17] <wxl> oh i know what to do, i just need to do it
[17:17] <Munsko> XD
[17:17] <wxl> it's kind of like how i've been meaning to switch from irssi to weechat for years but am too lazy to re-configure everything XD
[17:18] <wxl> i do have torified mail now and that's nice
[17:19] <Munsko> Oh
[17:19] <Munsko> I need to config the email too
[17:19] <Munsko> And then torify too
[17:19] <Munsko> After that maybe firefox
[17:19] <Munsko> Too much work to do
[17:19] <wxl> of course you need a provider that has an onion
[17:20] <wxl> you can surf clearnet in tor browser, though you do go through an exit node
[17:22] <Munsko> I use outlook, is possible?
[17:23] <wxl> ewwwwwwwwwwwww
[17:23] <wxl> why on earth would you???????
[17:24] <wxl> ok sorry about that :)
[17:24] <wxl> no, i'm pretty confident microsoft doesn't host any onions anywhere
[17:27] <Munsko> Xd
[17:27] <Munsko> i need to migrate my mails
[17:27] <Munsko> The problem is that i use it for univ.
[17:27] <Munsko> And i need change EVERYTHING
[17:28] <wxl> well many providers these days will allow you to import mails
[17:28] <wxl> look into protonmail
[17:36] <Munsko> Trojitá supports onion?(sock)
[17:36] <Munsko> Its the mail service that comes with 20.04
[17:37] <Munsko> SOCKS*
[17:37] <wxl> there's ways around it. see torify/torsocks
[17:38] <wxl> tbh i'm not sure about trojitá's native support of proxies, but i bet it's there
[17:39] <Munsko> Nice
[17:39] <Munsko> I will try it more later
[17:39] <Munsko> thanks
[17:39] <wxl> yep
[17:41] <Munsko> I will tell u a secret: i have a folder called win xp in desktop :D
[17:42] <wxl> shame
[17:42] <Munsko> Just backgrounds XD
[17:42] <Munsko> I found these backg. in HD and i like them
[17:42] <Munsko> :P
[18:40] <Munsko> I noticed something that could be strange: I configured my laptop to enter in suspension when i close it, but when i open it a found that its not on suspension, and after open it it goes to lock screen
[18:41] <Munsko> Could this affect me when i move the laptop?( i tought that is mroe safe move the pc in suspension than in normal mode)
[18:41] <Munsko> more*
[18:41] <Munsko> Or should i power off it before move?
[18:44] <wxl> can you manually suspend it?
[18:46] <Munsko> Yes
[18:47] <Munsko> But the strange part is that the pc have a led light
[18:47] <Munsko> And when is in susp. it goes on/off
[18:47] <Munsko> (dont know the word,sorry)
[18:47] <Munsko> this happens when i close the laptop, but when i open it i saw what was before suspend and then happens all that
[18:48] <Munsko> Maybe is just a graphic effect
[18:48] <Munsko> I mean, the image that i saw when i open is where i leave the pc
[18:48] <Munsko> and automatically appears login screen
[18:48] <Munsko> I have auto login, maybe that interferes it
[18:49] <wxl> do you have ssh enabled?
[18:50] <Munsko> How i saw that? no idea :D
[18:52] <wxl> nc -v localhost 22
[18:52] <wxl> if that succeeds you probably do
[18:52] <wxl> oh hey nevermind that, i have a better idea
[18:52] <wxl> do you have another computer on the local network?
[18:55] <Munsko> Yes
[18:55] <Munsko> I have one
[18:57] <wxl> ok
[18:57] <wxl> get the ip address from the computer
[18:57] <wxl> then close it
[18:57] <wxl> then with the other computer, ping the ip address
[18:57] <Munsko> I can acces
[18:57] <Munsko> I have apache in localhost
[18:57] <wxl> if it works, it's not suspended
[18:57] <Munsko> Oh
[18:57] <Munsko> nice idea
[18:57] <Munsko> i will try it in some mins
[18:57] <Munsko> ty really
[18:58] <wxl> np
[19:03] <jkajoks> hellou
[19:09] <jkajoks> hallo
[19:10] <jkajoks> jemand aus deuschland?? :D
[19:10] <wxl> !de
[19:44] <Munsko> wxl got the solution with your idea, its just a graphical thing
[19:44] <Munsko> I cant access when i clote the laptop
[19:45] <Munsko> Thank you very much
[19:46] <wxl> Munsko: sounds like yours just comes up fast from suspend. i wish mine did XD
[19:46] <Munsko> lol
[19:46] <Munsko> this thing is fast
[19:46] <Munsko> And i dotn have last gen
[19:46] <Munsko> Thats why love linux :P
[19:48] <Munsko> Maybe its just that i force suspension closing the laptop
[19:48] <Munsko> Because im with a lot of things open and still is fast
[19:49] <wxl> possibly
[19:49] <wxl> i actually manually lock mine and then to unlock, i lift the lid and press the key
[19:49] <wxl> that's probably it
[19:52] <Munsko> Oh
[19:52] <Munsko> you do that way for some special reason?
[20:02] <wxl> not really
[20:02] <wxl> your way's probably better
[20:10] <Munsko> Well, i was worried about the mail space on Protonmail
[20:10] <Munsko> 500mb looks good enough(i have lot of garbage)
[20:10] <Munsko> And i cant pay the 4 euros(3rd world -.-)
[20:15] <wxl> there's likely other options out there
[20:16] <Munsko> Theres one called Tutanota too
[20:18] <wxl> they have an onion?
[20:18] <Munsko> No idea
[20:18] <Munsko> Thats why i would try proton
[20:18] <Munsko> They give u 1Gb with some restrctions
[20:20] <wxl> yeah it's not really clear
[20:20] <wxl> they mention tor but i don't see an onion listed anywhere
[20:20] <Munsko> Nope
[20:21] <Munsko> I found one topic in a forum
[20:21] <Munsko> they have implemented it(is from 2018)
[20:21] <wxl> ah, it's kind of in the works https://github.com/tutao/tutanota/issues/528
[20:21] <Munsko> But when i searched tutoanota onion nothing appears
[20:21] <Munsko> They havent
[20:22] <Munsko> SO i will go proton
[20:22] <wxl> huh they're basically just suggesting tor as a clearnet browser. bizarre
[20:23] <Munsko> Clearnet is something like use tor without proxy?
[21:08] <namo> hi
[21:09] <Munsko> Well, afterwards i dont need to torify my mail
[21:56] <Munsko> Why nobody talks here?
[21:56] <akem> It's a support channel.
[21:57] <Munsko> You're right
[21:58] <akem> There's maybe a #lubuntu-discuss or something like that, i know there is one for regular ubuntu.
[21:58] <krytarik> That'd be more like -offtopic though, and yes there is.
 @Munsko [<Munsko> Why nobody talks here?], i asked so many questions about lubuntu here, there s not much left to ask now:D … sometimes i ask some questions at lubuntu offtopic, someguys help there for free ^^
[22:45] <Munsko> Wait, i tought u where a bot
[22:45] <Munsko> lol
[22:47] <akem> It's a bot that bridge another network.
[22:49] <Munsko> SO he answer that because i used the ?
[22:49] <Munsko> Because i asked lots of thing between yesterday and today an never comed to answer XD
[22:51] <akem> No, i mean it's a relay bot, the user who spoke via the bot is tbs61 here.
[22:52] <Munsko> oh
[22:52] <Munsko> i dont get it -.-
[22:52] <Munsko> Its like a "commanded" bot?
[22:56] <akem> Other users that are not connected on freenode can tchat here throught the bot, just ignore the bot name(lubot), and read what he says, the begining of the sentence has the username of who is tchatting between <>.
 i talk here, you talk there, bot carry our messages. that s all^^
[23:04] <Munsko> oh
[23:04] <Munsko> got it now
[23:04] <Munsko> thanks
[23:05] <akem> tbs61, On what network are you connected?
[23:05] <wxl> Munsko: clearnet as opposed to darknet. in other words, normal internet versus tor network. you can use the tor browser to connect to the normal internet but it doesn't have the same properties as connecting to an onion (darknet). it's clearnet because it's "in the clear"
[23:06] <Munsko> Ohh
[23:06] <Munsko> I feel iluminated now, all the answers together :D
[23:07] <Munsko> There's some tor channel? i dont get work the noscript plugin
 @akem [<akem> tbs61, On what network are you connected?], i use normal internet, i guess you didnt ask that but i need to understand more your question i guess:)
 i m not tech guy like guys here:D
[23:11] <akem> tbs61, Since you're not here on Freenode, are you on another IRCnet or Discord or ...?
[23:11] <Munsko> Im green too
 im at telegram
[23:11] <Munsko> The whois info show its telegram
[23:12] <akem> tbs61, Ok, thanks for the info.
[23:12] <akem> Munsko, Right, i did not see that.
 @akem [<akem> tbs61, Since you're not here on Freenode, are you on another IRCnet or Di …], i didnt know lubuntu has discord group too
[23:14] <akem> tbs61, Maybe it does not... it was just a supposition ;)
[23:15] <Afdal> Discord is spyware :(
 @@
[23:15] <Munsko> afdal yes?
 are you sure?
 We don't have discord. We only have Telegram, IRC, and matrix for live chat. We do have a discourse forum as well. You can find all the links at https://lubuntu.me/links
[23:54] <Afdal> Good, don't ever get a Discord :3
[23:55] <Afdal> Seeing a disturbing amount of projects on Freenode making Discord relays lately