[01:32] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: ping
[01:33] <robert_ancell> hi
[01:33] <kenvandine> hangout?
[01:38] <callmepk> good morning
[01:58] <duflu> Morning callmepk, afternoon robert_ancell, evening kenvandine 
[01:58] <robert_ancell> o/
[02:04] <callmepk> hi duflu 
[06:11] <luna_> morning
[06:20] <duflu> Morning luna_ 
[06:40] <didrocks> good morning
[06:51] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[06:51] <ricotz> good morning
[07:02] <duflu> Hi ricotz 
[07:03] <didrocks> hey duflu, ricotz 
[07:28] <marcustomlinson> morning disttoppers
[07:32] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson 
[07:32] <marcustomlinson> hey didrocks, stop working so much
[07:45] <didrocks> marcustomlinson: well, I’ll try reduce the cadence once the blog post series on ZSys and we have a good start on SRUing some fixes + encryption. so hum, next month probably :p
[07:46] <didrocks> and I will use some days off then to paint ou new house (hopefully? if advanced enough) before we move in during summer (hopefully as well :p)
[07:46] <marcustomlinson> didrocks: family first though alright
[07:50] <didrocks> marcustomlinson: yeah, everything is going alright though, keeping fingers crossed that this goes on this way :)
[07:51] <didrocks> (second is one easier than first one… maybe due to experience? … So far :p)
[07:52] <marcustomlinson> yeah I'm finding the same :)
[07:52] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson 
[07:52] <marcustomlinson> hey duflu
[08:05] <Laney> \o
[08:05] <duflu>    o/
[08:05] <duflu> Oops I am facing the wrong way
[08:06] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:06] <didrocks> one char spacing is not enough, social distance please! :)
[08:07] <Laney>                                                                                                                               hi duflu and didrocks 
[08:08] <duflu> Well I am approximately 13000km away. That should do
[08:08] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[08:08] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[08:09] <didrocks> hey seb128 
[08:09] <didrocks> Laney: heh
[08:10] <seb128> hey duflu, Laney, didrocks, happy friday! how are you?
[08:11] <duflu> seb128, I feel good. How are you?
[08:11] <seb128> duflu, I'm good, it's a sunny friday :)
[08:11] <Wimpress> Morning o/
[08:12] <seb128> (also I'm a bit around today but not much, still keeping IRC on and trying to finish one ot two things during quiet hours ;)
[08:14] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney, seb128 and Wimpress
[08:15] <didrocks> seb128: I’m good, thanks, cloudy Friday here though :p
[08:15] <Laney> moin seb128 and marcustomlinson and Wimpress 
[08:15] <didrocks> hey Wimpress 
[08:15] <Laney> sunny, been hanging out watching bees this morning
[08:15] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, how are you?
[08:15] <Laney> everybody ok there?
[08:16] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:16] <seb128> hey oSoMoN
[08:16] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[08:16] <marcustomlinson> I’s aaaaiiit
[08:16] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, ça va ?
[08:20] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks. bien, et toi?
[08:20] <duflu> Hi again Wimpress, oSoMoN 
[08:21] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[08:21] <oSoMoN> morning Wimpress, marcustomlinson, Laney 
[08:21] <didrocks> oSoMoN: ça va bien, merci :)
[08:22] <marcustomlinson> Howdy oSoMoN
[08:24] <Laney> hey oSoMoN!
[09:07] <FourDollars> Could anyone help me to upload https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1875797?
[13:24] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128, do you understand what's (not) going on here:
[13:24] <GunnarHj> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#evince
[13:38] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, yes, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages is easier to read sometimes
[13:38] <seb128> but basically
[13:38] <seb128> 'Depends: evince texlive-bin' means it requires texlive-bin to migrate with it
[13:39] <seb128> that sounds a transition due to some package name change or something
[13:39] <seb128> you need to navigate https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt for those cases
[13:40] <seb128> e.g the most bottom entry has
[13:40] <seb128> Trying easy from autohinter: evince/3.36.0-2ubuntu1 gummi/0.8.1-1 pyx3/0.15-3 texlive-bin/2020.20200327.54578-4 texworks/0.6.5-1 xdvik-ja/22.87.05+j1.42-2
[13:40] <seb128> with a list of package names, those are things that would stop being installable if those ^ migrated
[13:40] <seb128> usually they are things that need to be fixed (sometime it's just a lib/common package that is creating the issue for the set)
[13:42] <seb128> from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texlive-bin/2020.20200327.54578-4 it requires the newest texlive-base
[13:43] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#texlive-base isn't ready though due to depends and failing tests
[13:43] <seb128> GunnarHj, in summary it's a non trivial transition that needs to be worked out
[13:44] <GunnarHj> seb128: Thanks for the lesson. Can I safely ignore the remind mails until someone sorts it out?
[13:44] <seb128> yes
[13:46] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, good to know. Actually that particular evince upload has already served its purpose. I just wanted to fix translation imports, and that was done when building.
[13:46] <GunnarHj> Thanks!
[13:47] <seb128> GunnarHj, np!
[13:48] <seb128> GunnarHj, that evince upload is not great btw
[13:49] <seb128> GunnarHj, also the package was in sync with Debian and should stay this way
[13:50] <seb128> GunnarHj, dh_translations should refresh the .pot even if it exists no?
[13:50] <GunnarHj> seb128: But translations were broken, so I thought I had to unsync for now.
[13:50] <seb128> GunnarHj, also moving is buggy since the clean target doesn't remove it
[13:50] <GunnarHj> No, it doesn't.
[13:50] <seb128> it should though
[13:50] <seb128> otherwise we hit that sort of issues
[13:50] <seb128> we should force refresh an update
[13:50] <GunnarHj> seb128: Then dh_translations needs to be modified.
[13:50] <seb128> I would consider that a dh_translation bug
[13:50] <seb128> yes
[13:51] <seb128> don't you agree it would be better?
[13:51] <seb128> what's the point to trust a static file instead of refreshing when we are able to?
[13:52] <seb128> GunnarHj, also I would probably have done a rm rather than mv
[13:52] <GunnarHj> seb128: Basically I do. I have a vague memory of raising the issue a few cycles ago, and that someone said 'no' about overwriting by default.
[13:54] <GunnarHj> seb128: In this case I reported it upstream too: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/-/issues/1387
[13:55] <GunnarHj> seb128: But personally I wouldn't object to make dh_translations brutally overwrite what's there. :)
[13:56] <seb128> GunnarHj, I might be overlooking an issue, anyway I'm going to commit the workaround to Debian, it's safe to do there and so we can stay in sync (just changing the mv for a rm, should work also and it feels clearner than letting a renamed file around)
[13:57] <GunnarHj> seb128: I thought of that, but dh_translations doesn't exist in Debian. Or do you mean doing it as overwrite of some other dh_* script?
[13:58] <seb128> GunnarHj, I didn't check but I think override a non existing target is fine, it will just do nothing in Debian
[13:58] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ah, didn't know that.
[13:58] <seb128> also otherwise doing it from a overriding configure or such should have the same result
[13:59] <seb128> any target done before dh_translation is fine
[14:01] <GunnarHj> Yep, makes sense.
[14:35] <seb128> to the snap maintainers here, do you know how to remove a snap from a channel from the webUI ?
[14:44] <oSoMoN> seb128, not from the web UI, but you can use "snapcraft close" to close a channel
[14:48] <seb128> oSoMoN, can that be arch specific?
[14:48] <oSoMoN> I don't think so
[14:49] <oSoMoN> seb128, from the web ui you should be able to browse to https://dashboard.snapcraft.io/snaps/SNAPNAME/revisions/REVNO/release/ and uncheck the corresponding checkbox, no?
[15:13] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[15:14] <oSoMoN> did that work?
[15:51] <seb128> oSoMoN, no, it says checking a channel is mandatory
[15:59] <oSoMoN> seb128, try maybe publishing that revision to a temporary channel, then closing it? don't take my word that this will work though, better to ask the store/snapcraft folks
[16:36] <hellsworth> good late morning desktopers
[16:37] <didrocks> late morning hellsworth :)
[16:37] <hellsworth> yeah i had an errand to run this morning so getting to my desk late :)
[16:38] <didrocks> heh :)
[16:55] <Laney> down to a mere 36 commits!
[16:55] <Laney> enough to try to start rebasing I'd say
[16:55] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[16:55] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN !
[16:55]  * Laney nods hellsworth 
[16:55]  * Laney hands the desktop baton
[16:55] <oSoMoN> Laney, that sounds tedious
[16:55] <Laney> it is
[16:56]  * hellsworth nods back and takes the baton
[16:56] <Laney> so after squashing everything down
[16:56] <Laney> I'll have to break logical changes back out again ...
[16:56] <Laney> to be able to upstream stuff
[16:59] <Laney> I reckon most of these will cherry pick more or less cleanly
[16:59] <Laney> just the autopkgtest policy that's going to be a beast
[16:59] <Laney> so I'll leave that until last :>
[17:00]  * Laney fades out for now
[17:00] <Laney> happy weekend all!
[17:03] <hellsworth> cheers!!