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MikeRLWell I have good news. I managed to fix it.00:08
MikeRLNo more crap Bluetooth.00:08
MikeRLThanks everyone for your help.00:09
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shinobi__I'm trying to verify a public PGP key. One is linked to on the web page and I've found others on PGP servers. So while the one linked to is most likely correct, how does one know that it wasn't spoofed?00:25
_duncan_Is upstart still supported in Xenial? I'm having some problems with a security update from earlier today to a different package causing kernel panics with it.00:27
shibbolethlook in /etc/init00:28
shibbolethit isn't default, but yes00:28
_duncan_What's the best way to report a bug with it?00:29
shibbolethbesides building up speed an run smack into a wall? launchpad/git i guess00:30
shibbolethone of the reasons why you're kinda f-ed using ubuntu. when you're having issues with netplan, upstart and crap (snap) here is the only place anyone else knows what ypou're even talking about00:33
_duncan_It's even worse when you've got orchestration tooling that relies on them00:33
shibbolethamen00:33
_duncan_I might report it on the json-c package instead, since that's the one actually causing the issues00:33
_duncan_And it's probably a tad more active00:34
_duncan_Does it count as a security bug when it's a security update crashing systems?00:44
fairhbi have been trying to complete a fresh install of Ubuntu 20.04, and live USB fails.  I am able to boot fedora 31 from live USB, and the 20.04 live USB works on another system, so I know it isn't the media00:49
fairhbnot sure how best to capture log details to submit a bug.00:50
fairhbany know issues with 20.04 live USB?00:51
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bitblitso something that thermald is doing is getting my cpu stuck at like half the max speed, even after stopping thermald. i7z says i'm at 800mhz, should by about 1300. intel broadwell laptop, fanless.01:09
bitblit% in C1 is around 90%01:10
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iconoclastherocan someone help me figure out how to get ubuntu to boot on the right partition, i.e., sda8?01:16
iconoclastherohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y4jtYbRjx901:16
iconoclastheroi want it to boot to 20.04 on sda8...which it did, after a fashion.  if I can boot into sda8 at all I'm looking at just 1/4 of my monitors in 640x480.01:16
iconoclastheroi've run boot repair seemingly dozens of times and i cannot get it to work.01:16
younderMy question is a bit vague. Canonical Landscape has stopped giving me emails on  software updates. I don't know why. Anyone else experience this and what do you do?01:26
Bashing-om!nomodeset | iconoclasthero  Nvidia graphics ?01:34
ubottuiconoclasthero  Nvidia graphics ?: Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there.01:34
iconoclastheroGPU: GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST01:35
iconoclastheroyes...  it was working fine before I tried to move it to boot sda8 first.  it's working fine on sda3 (20.04) & sda4 (18.04)01:35
Bashing-omiconoclasthero: Still seems likely to me that a graphic's driver failed to install for the sda8 kernel, When booting sda8 what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' in the configuration line for a driver ?01:38
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iconoclastherojust to be clear, I was using sda8 with 20.04 on it since the release candidate was released and hadn't had any problems until yesterday when i started messing with boot repair to get sda8 to boot first.  But I'll boot into it later and give it a try.01:40
younderNVIDIA graphics drives need to patch the kernel source and recompile so that would need to be done for all kernels you boot from.01:40
iconoclastherohmmm...01:41
iconoclastherocan i copy the kernels from the install on sda3 to /boot?01:41
iconoclastheroi.e., /boot on sda2?01:41
iconoclastheroi still don't think i'm explaining that right:  sda2 is a separate /boot partition.01:42
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bitblithow do you disable hyperthreading early in boot? bios doesn't allow.02:04
zennhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/187831902:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1878319 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installation failed on asus laptop without selecting safe graphics" [Undecided,New]02:05
zennanybody looking into this?02:06
younderbitblit, Why do you want to do this?02:07
oerhekszenn, why? see answer #2, there is an issue with your installation media02:07
zennthere wasnt any issue with the installation media02:10
sarnoldbitblit: try: echo off > /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control02:10
sarnoldbitblit: kernel command line parameter mitigations=auto,nosmt should also do the job: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/MDS02:12
bitblityounder: security i guess. just curious if i'll notice. also having heat issues. intel broadwell laptop fanless.02:14
bitblitsarnold: i'll try that in a bit. the kernel option.02:15
younderbitblit, Well as security is concerned my computers have the intel-microcode update. Not sure if that works.02:16
sarnoldthe microcode updates don't remove the security problems that hyperthreading introduces02:17
younderbitblit, As for temperature reducing clock frequency is the better choice like disabling turbo mode.02:17
bitbliti've spent two days fighting thermald. i think my bios has disabled some of the power saving controls.02:18
bitbliti welcome alternate suggestions.02:19
bitblitand actually thermald docs kindo suck i have to say. they don't tell you what the defaults are, or the units of measurement. among other problems.02:19
mattibitblit: What is the problem? Overheating?02:20
sarnoldbitblit: there may not be happiness there, a lot of laptops these days just plain don't have the thermal capacity they should02:20
bitblityes, goes up to 80 then crashes02:20
mattiThat is a bit much.02:20
mattiUnder load or just when idle?02:20
bitblitsensors tells me the max is 9502:20
bitblitlol02:20
sarnoldbitblit: but be sure to double-check the basics, like the fans are running free, there's no dust on the fans, in the ports, or heatsink if it's exposed..02:20
bitblitfirefox video :)02:21
mattibitblit: I see. So under load.02:21
bitblitthere are no fans. it's broadwell fanless. asus zenbook02:21
sarnoldhttps://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-USB-Fans/zgbs/pc/3015416011 perhaps? :)02:21
younderbitblit, The last time i had thermal problems it was a problem with the thermal paste. Replaced the paste  from Intel with NH-1 and the temperature came right down.02:22
lapionhow can I keep a terminal open so that if during a shutdown some processes do not react I can manually kill them02:22
bitblithow would i reduce frequencies?02:23
bitblitcpufreq?02:23
sarnoldlapion: control alt f1 of f2 or something, log in, then control alt f1 or f7 or something to return to the gui02:23
bitbliti'm not sure how hard it is to get to the cpu but i guess i should try redoing the paste.02:23
lapionsarnold, the shutdown process is allready in progress..02:24
mattibitblit: Is this the one that has dGPU? Nvidia?02:24
mattibitblit: If so, and you don't use external screens, then turn it off.02:24
bitblitit's just the intel integrated gfx02:24
mattibitblit: Which model is it precisely?02:24
mattibitblit: There are a few ZenBooks02:24
bitblitux305fa02:24
mattiOK. Let me have a look.02:25
mattibitblit: A bit of a silly question, but often valid - does it also overheat when running Windows?02:25
kyle1337there commiting treasonthere commiting treason02:25
bitblitmatti: i do dual boot but don't spend any time in windows. i don't recall it ever happening. but, windowsn has better video playback in firefox.02:26
mattibitblit: Often vendors have drivers or some specific hacks like i.e., undervolting that they tailor to their mainstream OS they ship.02:26
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bitblitvideo playback in browser is what seems to kill it. mpv can do 1080p at very low cpu.02:27
mattibitblit: I suspect, on Linux it has HWP issues and goes into TB often, which causes it to use more power. You can try to disable TB and see, and then try to also tinker with undervolting - both at your own risk :)02:27
bitblitTB?02:27
mattibitblit: And if you have dGPU, then disabling it would most likely help - as these often share heating block with the CPU in a compact chassis.02:27
mattibitblit: Turbo Boost02:27
mattibitblit: Unfortunately, whatever you do, it often means nerfing your CPUs performance, so you might not be happy about it :)02:28
mattibitblit: Next time you look for Linux notebook, read reviews in advance to avoid headaches later.02:29
thumbfingerIs there any way to get GPU hardware acceleration on AMD Stoney Ridge?02:29
bitblitactually if i could limit it to a temp i'd love it. regardless of the perf hit.02:29
thumbfingerHopefully I'm not asking the same thing bitblit is02:29
sarnoldlapion: ah, if the other gettys are already turned off, then there's not much you can do02:29
thumbfingerBecause I certainly made the same mistake02:30
lapionsarnold, I should set my system up to stop the gettys as last02:31
lapionwhich should be the default given how often systemd fails to stop many processes02:32
thumbfingerThe /proc/cpuinfo for what I am asking about lists "AMD A6-9220C RADEON R5"02:33
sarnoldlapion: if it's the same ones every time, you could systemctl edit the units in question and add some draconian killing.. https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.kill.html#02:36
bitblitcpufreq-set --max 2000MHz has no effect..02:37
lapionsarnold, no it's not allways the same ones..02:37
sarnoldthumbfinger: I know next to nothing about amd stuff.. but if this is a new chip, be sure to be trying with 20.04 lts, that's got the best chance of having drivers for new hardware02:37
sarnoldlapion: aw, dang, I came to detest the squid shutdown scripts.. why on earth would it take two minutes to shut down?02:38
mattibitblit: It seems when things work, then it would be OK, as per: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/UX305FA02:39
mattibitblit: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ASUS_Zenbook_UX30502:39
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mattibitblit: I wonder if you have dust in the heat sink? https://www.myfixguide.com/manual/asus-zenbook-ux305fa-disassembly/02:40
bitblitthx for the links, hadn't seen the one for debian (or the others)02:41
mattibitblit: I can't help you much from afar, so you need to research this.02:42
mattibitblit: Good luck!02:42
matti:)02:42
bitblitthanks :)02:42
lapionsarnold, not allways the same culprit cometimes it's cups sometimes it's a fs that refuses to unmount because some directory is binded to an external device sometimes it's some ghost process that is just running but should not stop systemd..02:48
sarnoldlapion: oh strange; I can understand the one dependant on an external device, the kernel can misbehave if devices just disappear02:50
sarnoldbut cups etc ought to be able to be killed no trouble02:51
bitblitecho 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo02:53
bitblitproblem solved :D02:53
sarnoldbitblit: dude, really?02:56
MannyLNJHello. I think I know the problem but not how to solve it. I have a dual boot Windows 10 and Ubuntu 20.04 system. I am using Thunderbird on both as my mail client. I have my mail files stored on an exfat partition. To save space I want both OS's to use the same mail files. I was about to mount the partition under /home/emanuel/.thunderbird but the files are owned by root. I can't get chown to work. I think because you can't chown exfat.02:59
MannyLNJBecause of this Thunderbird won't run. How do I get past this problem?02:59
bitblitwell, at first i was happy but it is a bit slow. i7z reports 1ghz instead of 2ghz.. i need to find a better medium.03:00
sarnoldMannyLNJ: it depends how you're mounting it -- eg this fuse implementation supports uid= and gid= to set the owner and group https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/exfat-fuse/mount.exfat.8.en.html03:01
MannyLNJsarnold, I believe exfat is supported nativley my fstab that disks made is /dev/disk/by-uuid/7851-CE3F /home/emanuel/.thunderbird auto nosuid,nodev,nofail 0 003:02
MannyLNJ 03:02
m4221|phoneIs NFS tolerant of 50-100 ms of latency?03:03
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thumbfingersarnold I am on 20.04, I'm actually seeing regressions from 19.x03:06
sarnoldMannyLNJ: alright, it looks like the uid and gid options should be supported with the native driver, too; try changing: nosuid,nodev,nofail to nosuid,nodev,nofail,uid=whatever,gid=whatever03:07
sarnoldthumbfinger: oh no :( well, that's at least worth a bug report..03:07
sarnoldm4221|phone: I suspect doing 'streaming reads' of large files would work fine, I'm less sure about random access to files, find or updatedb might be pretty painful03:08
kyle1337the ultimate authority03:09
thumbfingerMy issue boils down to "what dmesg warns me will happen is happening" so I assume it is a known issue.03:09
m4221|phonesarnold: it's probably the same for large writes too03:10
sarnoldthumbfinger: not a great assumption :) hehe03:10
sarnoldm4221|phone: heh, yeah :/03:10
m4221|phonesarnold: we have an as400 that accesses our Linux box via NFS that will be doing it over a gigabit wan connection03:11
m4221|phoneAnyway ty03:12
MannyLNJsarnold, thank yiu.  It seems to be working now03:13
sarnoldm4221|phone: I'd be curious to hear how it goes :)03:13
sarnoldMannyLNJ: nice :D03:13
m4221|phonesarnold: we have 1ms locally, but 18ms over the wan03:13
m4221|phoneWith a lot of legacy software03:14
mortal130 23 * *  * apt-get update; apt-get autoremove --yes; apt-get dist-upgrade --yes; shutdown -h now03:25
mortal1^ I'm trying to run that at 11:30pm every night if the laptop is on, but it doesn't seem to fire?03:25
sarnoldmortal1: did cron send you an email?03:28
mortal1i don't have sendmail or anything setup on my laptop03:29
sarnoldtry looking in /var/spool/mail/root or similar03:29
sarnoldmortal1: did you change the PATH in the crontab file? the manpage says: PATH  is  set  to  "/usr/bin:/bin".03:30
mortal1I didn't change the path for chron,03:31
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RoseBusokay if the remote host is rejecting my connection due to too many failed attempts what is the most likely thing wrong with my .ssh folder03:48
RoseBusi know it's that folder bc i did mv .ssh .ssh_bak and then i was able to connect03:49
sarnoldRoseBus: don't go anywhere for a sec, I think I know this one..03:49
RoseBusyay03:50
RoseBusfree help <3 freenode03:50
sarnoldRoseBus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/187214503:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1872145 in openssh (Ubuntu) "explicit key offered after all agent keys, auth can fail before explicit key used" [Wishlist,Triaged]03:50
sarnoldRoseBus: comment #4 has a ppa with a proposed fix03:50
sarnoldRoseBus: of course, if the "too many keys" thing doesn't sound right, well, then the ppa may not help you :(03:51
sarnoldRoseBus: but there ya go, that's my guess :D03:51
RoseBusomg03:52
RoseBusthat's most certainly my issue03:52
RoseBusi have several keys there and the only thing that happened between when it worked and it didn't work is i added more keys03:53
sarnoldsounds pretty plausible03:53
sarnoldthis can't fix the too many keys :( but it can at least let you use -i on the command line to indicate which one you want to use first. I think.03:53
sarnold(it's been a while since I've read this one..)03:53
RoseBusyea03:54
RoseBusi will just use -i03:54
RoseBusnow i just gotta figure out which key is which bc i didn't name them very well :(03:54
sarnoldheh :( I'm familiar with that...03:54
sarnoldalright, time for me to bail, have fun RoseBus, if that ppa lets you use -i successfully, please do leave a comment, I suspect it may help convince upstream of the utility of the changes03:56
RoseBusok03:56
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jarnosFor which release of Ubuntu was apt command added so that apt remove and apt purge works?05:47
EdFletcherliterally all of them05:51
jarnosOh this tells it was Ubuntu 16.04: https://itsfoss.com/apt-vs-apt-get-difference/ There may still be some Ubuntu 14.04 installations around, though standard support ended on April 2019: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases06:02
davido_I'm having trouble updating snaps. I'm told "...(invalid credentials)"06:06
davido_I started noticing the issue after upgrading to 20.0406:10
takov751hello there06:16
davido_takov751: Did you have a question?06:18
takov751Ahh hello davido_ . I just have a question regarding wireguard integration into the gnome network manager ,as i already have successed on archlinux already with one of the package from aur. Up until now i have only used the nmcli on ubuntu 20.04 and the wg-quick,but couldn't find any gui solution06:20
takov751which is weird as network-manager has native support for wireguard and not too long until the wireguard will be baked into the kernel06:21
davido_You've installed the wireguard apt package?06:25
takov751I am already using wireguard from cli. Both nmcli and wg-quick command works perfectly well06:25
davido_I see. Well, I don't use Wireguard. But I do use a VPN most of the day, every day, and I'm happy to just open a terminal and start it up.06:26
davido_Sorry, I myself can't answer your question, but maybe someone else here can.06:27
takov751Thank you for the effort davido_06:27
davido_My Gnome software center does indicate there's a Snap based wireguard tool available.06:28
fabboSince upgrading to Focal, audio behaves weirdly06:28
fabbonamely, no matter what output device is chosen in Settings, audio comes from the headphones if they are plugged in, no audio at all comes if they are not06:29
fabboshould a bug be filed in launchpad?06:29
takov751davido_ the wireguard tools is only cli solution , what we need is a gnome integration06:29
takov751fabbo : I would first install pavucontrol and see the settings and used devices first06:30
takov751however if its still a mistery go for the bug report06:30
fabbopavucontrol looks normal06:33
fabbonow the plot thickens06:33
fabboVideo (totem) seems to obet the settings, that is, when HDMI is switched Video outputs audio to the HDMI, but the settings Test button always sends the sound to the headphones06:33
fabbo*obey the settings06:34
TJ-fabbo: only just came in, but it is possible the GUI 'test' button is, under the hood, calling the 'speaker-test' CLI tool with fixed options06:35
fabboTJ-, in that case it would be a gnome-settings bug, right?06:37
yotam11Hello everybody, yesterday i installed 20.04 on my asus zenbook ux431f, and i had 3 problems: the sound is not continuous, the machine can't identify my wi fi network and i also had problem with the built in screen (can see only on outside scree). it looks like the os just not fit my computer. there is something i should try to solve this issues?06:41
TJ-fabbo: yeah... but usually as I understand the Gnome tools don't call out to CLI tooling, they usually integrate the code into their libraries... this was just an idea :)06:43
TJ-fabbo: it could be the GUI 'Test' assumes to use the 'default' device rather than the currently active... maybe you could test that by attaching a bluetooth sound device and seeing if you can get the test sounds out of that ?06:44
davido_fabbo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/186619406:44
makarahi. I can't get my machine to suspend. I've had issues with bluetooth in the past. I turned that off and killed and process with "blue" in the name. With ubs20.04 i can't even enter suspend06:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1866194 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Focal) "External audio device shows up in the sound output options but the sound keeps being emitted from the internal laptop speaker, or none at all." [High,In progress]06:44
davido_fabbo: It sounds like the issue you are experiencing is documented under Known Issues in the release notes for 20.04.06:44
TJ-davido_: nice find !06:45
davido_First place I look even before installing a new version06:46
TJ-davido_: I don't need to look... I don't use Gnome :P06:46
takov751yotam11 sadly linux support is not asus forte06:46
takov751i presume your zenbook has a nvidia intel GPU combo06:47
takov751yotam11 sadly i can only give you a archwiki article which might be a bit useful ,but if you have less experience with gnu/linux it might be a bit more misleading than helpful06:48
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client35I'm trying to install ubuntu alongside Win10 (it's already installed), but am receiving errors when it comes to install bootloader. When I do the steps to repair grub, but the issue is I don't believe the boot loader was fully installed. Also, please let me know if grub/bootloader aren't the same thing.06:57
client35I've been reading a ton of guides trying to fix it. I've also tried numerous times to reinstall, but no dice. Tried manually configuring /boot and / as 2 separate partitions, tried 1 partition. I also tried choosing the "install along side" option. CSM is disabled too.06:59
client35When I go to install alongside, I can either choose /dev/sdd2 or /dev/sdd1 as my EFI system partition, but both of those are my Windows drives. 2 is the bootloader for windows while 1 is recovery.07:00
ms4ndstclient35: In windows, have u prepaired a space on your HD for ubuntu?07:02
client35ms4ndst yes I've deleted and formatted space for ubuntu. 250GB worth of space07:02
ms4ndstclient35: Don't format it, just delete the space so that it's empty space.07:03
client35I have tried deleting space, without formatting it. However, when I do that, I can't select the drive when it's time to select which disk. To be clear, I'm trying to install ubuntuDDE, and I know there will be differences but I would think the bootloader issue is something at the core? I could be wrong, but right now I'm reinstalling to get the07:04
client35full error.07:04
ms4ndstclient35: Then in the ubuntu installer u pick "Something else" and mark the empty space and make a root and swap partition. Se this excelent guide https://fossbytes.com/install-ubuntu-20-04-with-windows-10-dual-boot/07:05
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client35Honestly, if this fails again I'll just install normal ubuntu07:05
ms4ndstclient35: ok haven't tried that distro but basically it's just ubuntu with Budgi isn't it07:05
client35Yea07:05
client35Deepin07:06
client35Oh wow so it finally worked07:06
ms4ndstclient35: I had issues yeasterday trying to install Ubuntu on seperate drive but discovered I booted the USB stick in Legacy mode instead of UEFI mode (felt a bit silly there).07:06
ms4ndstclient35: Deepin thats right sorry.07:06
client35I saw and fixed that already, because I couldn't find it07:07
ms4ndstclient35: Ok sorry have to go away for a bit. Good luck and hope you solve it. Let me know :)07:07
client35No worries, appreciate your help!07:08
client35ms4ndst it worked!07:09
totalnoobAnyone know how to install Conky Manager in Ubuntu 20.04? After I added the correct repository and run 'sudo apt-get install conky-manager' it says E: Unable to locate package conky-manager07:30
hemebondIs there a way I can guarantee that a package (chromium-chromedriver) and its dependency (chromium-browser) are always the same version without pinning both to a particular version?07:31
pi0protocol negotiation failed: NT_STATUS_INVALID_NETWORK_RESPONSE i get this error message when connecting from 1 ubuntu 18.04 to another ubuntu 20.0407:31
bartdenhi, how can i install libfuse3 on “buster/sid” version, its not in the apt repo by default apparantly07:32
EriC^^bartden: /join #debian07:32
bartdenEriC^^: /etc/os-release shows VERSION="18.04.4 LTS (Bionic Beaver)"07:42
bartdenso i guess its ubuntu, /etc/debian_version is just a remainder i presume07:43
Priceyhemebond: Isn't that exactly what pinning is?08:06
Priceyhemebond: Oh, are you saying you don't want one to be ugpraded before the other, but you're ok with them being whatever?08:06
Priceytotalnoob: Did you `apt update` before trying to install?08:06
Priceytotalnoob: What is the repository you added?08:06
hemebondPricey: That's right, I don't care which version as long as they're the same.08:11
cadabraxHello, my gnome-shell hogs 100% CPU for 30-60 seconds at a time randomly. This makes the computer unusable. Using Ubuntu 18.04 in VMWare, there are lots of stack overflow threads, none with working solutions. Any ideas?08:19
cadabraxshort of getting rid of Gnome and using Xfce or any other DE08:19
b1ackandwh1tecadabrax: tell us the spec of resources allocated to the vm08:22
cadabrax4 i7 8th gen cores, 16gb ram08:28
cadabraxout of 32gb on the system and 4 total cores08:29
cadabraxit used to work well for months, and it started acting up about a week or so ago. I had a similar issue on my personal laptop (running linux natively), and I solved it by not using gnome anymore. But this is my work laptop and I dont want to reconfigure it from scratch08:30
b1ackandwh1tethis is the machine but have you reserved enough to the vm?08:30
cadabraxthe machine has 4x i7 8th gen cores and 32gb ram, the vm has 4x i7 and 16gb ram08:30
b1ackandwh1tehum08:30
b1ackandwh1tecadabrax: is it system wide? host and guest? if is only on vm you migh debug better in #vmware08:36
b1ackandwh1teI have to admit im not a seasoned user but the log may shed some light in the issue08:38
cadabraxthe host is running windows. this is gnome problem, i've had it before on countless machines, nativve or vm, vmware or virtualbox08:40
b1ackandwh1tewe have to pick a time when someone that can read better the logs is online08:43
Scytale89Is there a roadmap when zfs+snaphot are produciton ready or suitable for normal desktop usage?08:51
AntonOfTheWoodsHi, I am trying to get a 20.04 server image installed on a Windows 10 Home VirtualBox (6.1). The installer is failing and restarting after it starts installing. The Cloud-image .ova appears to import but then fails to boot. Any ideas?09:21
nikolamWhat's that with (x)Ubuntu live session and it's insisting on 1024X768 resolution (i5 4570 on HP ProDesk 600 G1)09:40
nikolamintegraded CPU graphics, VGA output09:40
nikolamIt does not offer bigger resolution then 1024X768 by default09:40
vltHello. How can I set the mtime of files on an Android device connected via USB File Transmission?09:49
vltIs there a way to mount it somewhere (additionally to the GUI file browser)?09:50
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vltI just found that it seems to be mounted in /run/user/<uid>/gvfs/... but the files there pull an MC Hammer.10:12
clarkkIn the Ubuntu 18.04 notifications panel, it truncates the message. How can I see the full message?10:15
totalnoobPricey: sudo apt-get install conky-sudo add-apt-repository ppa:teejee2008/ppa10:37
totalnoobPricey, and yes did  apt update10:37
jdaviescoatesMy 20.04 machine just shut itself down with no warning for no apparent reason. I'm guessing there are likely some logs somewhere which may give some clues as to why it did this, but I've no idea where I may find them? Any ideas/ pointers? Perhaps it was overheating or something? /me shrugs10:46
jdaviescoatesalso, when I tried to power on at first it hung on ubuntu and I had to alt+fn_prtsc s u b or s u o a couple of times before it would boot up again10:50
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bodomHi there! It looks like update-grub is ignoring memtest86+ and i can't figure out why10:52
luc4Hello! I noticed that in 20.04 the application named bup was removed. Any idea why?10:52
tarzeauluc4: from the last 3 release links it failed to build: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/bup10:54
tarzeaui'm not sure if that's the right answer though10:55
ledenidaviescoates: try   maybe give some info --> journalctl -b -1 | grep 'temperature'10:55
luc4tarzeau: yes, that is the right answer I guess. Thanks. The approach here is to provide a patch to the project and then to send a bug report to ubuntu to ask to include it again?10:57
tarzeauluc4: i don't think that's possible for 20.04, but 20.10 should work10:59
clarkkthe notifications panel is absolutely useless in ubuntu 18.04 :/10:59
Priceytotalnoob: https://launchpad.net/~teejee2008/+archive/ubuntu/ppa only shows versions built up to 17.04 - you're likely running a newer version?11:00
totalnoobyeah 20.0411:00
luc4tarzeau: oh… that is bad… it is a pretty widespread backup tool. More then 6K stars in gitub…11:01
EriC^^bodom: is it a uefi install or legacy?11:03
bodomEriC^^: looks like its legay. Also, it looks like the problem is grub-mkconfig reading from /usr/local/etc/grub.d instead of /etc/grub.d11:04
jdaviescoatesledeni thanks, here is the output of  journalctl -b-1 > prevboot.txt11:05
jdaviescoates  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nJYcpsZqvN/ - temperature doesn't seen to be mentioned11:05
fradh11:05
fradi11:05
fradI upgraded yesterday to 20.04 64 bits. My Network Manager was WICD, but yesterday I was prompted to uninstall it. Thinking that a new Version would be installed, I accepted. Now I am writteing from another Computer and mz Notebook doesnät have any wlan Client, neither WICD nor the Default networkmanager11:06
jdaviescoatesledeni quite a few mentions of "thermal" though, including what look like some warnings, so perhaps it was that11:06
fradI have downloaded the targ for Network Manager. Upon installing I get 'intltool is too old, I Need intltool 0.40. or later. So I download the newest intltool I find (0.51.0), and I proceed to ./install it to get: './install.sh: no Input file specified'11:06
tarzeauluc4: i'm aware what it is :)11:06
jdaviescoatesI'm probably long overdue so new thermal grease...11:07
fradwhere do I Need to install intltool 0.51.0?11:07
EriC^^!info intltool11:08
ubottuintltool (source: intltool): Utility scripts for internationalizing XML. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.51.0-5ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 43 kB, installed size 174 kB11:08
EriC^^frad: it seems that 0.51.0 is in the official repos for 20.0411:08
younderjdaviescoates, dmesg gives messages if the CPU throttles back (lowers clock-frequency) because of a heat event. I use a utility called lm-sensors to monitor temperature.11:08
fradEriC^^I upgraded yesterday11:09
fradEriC^^then I donät understand: I only have 0.35.011:09
EriC^^jdaviescoates: that log is for the boot where you did sysrq s + u + b11:11
EriC^^frad: try 'apt-cache policy intltool'11:12
fradEriC^^ installed: None, candidate 0.51.011:13
EriC^^frad: try sudo apt-get install intltool11:14
fradbut the Thing is, that Notebook does not have a working Connection, neither it works with a lan cable. Ia m now writting from another computer11:14
jdaviescoatesEriC^^ ah I wondered if it would go back far enough. It there a way to go back further than last boot? I had to do did sysrq s + u + b a couple of times11:15
EriC^^frad: try 'apt-cache show intltool | grep -i filename'11:15
EriC^^jdaviescoates: i think -b-2 is the previous boot etc11:15
fradalso intltool_0.51.0-ubuntu_all.deb11:16
fradEriC^^11:16
jdaviescoatesyounder thanks, any way to see if that happened in the past? not sure if I've got that utility installed11:16
EriC^^frad: ok, download the deb from http://archive.ubuntu.com using the filename and transfer it to the pc and run sudo dpkg -i /path/to/intltool...deb11:17
jdaviescoatesEriC^^ thanks. Although I guess what I really want is what happened before the boot after it powered down by itself11:17
EriC^^jdaviescoates: the one where it might have overheated? it might be listed11:18
younderjdaviescoates, Well you have the dmesg log. So go through that to see if you have had any problems in the past.11:19
fradEriC^^, so, download intltool 0.51.0 from that linl you posted... doing it11:19
EriC^^jdaviescoates: "journalctl --list-boots" should show the boots it recorded11:19
jdaviescoatesEriC^^ yes I think perhaps it overheated and then shut down. The overheating (if that was it) didn't happen during boot though11:20
EriC^^jdaviescoates: yeah i think the log shows the whole boot, also while running, til shutdown11:20
fradEriC^^ I am sorry but that database is huge, I simply donät know where to start searching11:20
EriC^^jdaviescoates: if you want, you could try to grep for "grep -iE "thermal.*event|watchdog" /var/log/syslog" and see what happens, i think thats what it says when it detects overheating11:21
jdaviescoatesEriC^^ ah, OK, right so I want the log before the boot just after it shut down... I'll try that... thanks11:22
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jdaviescoatesEriC^^ looks like perhaps it was that: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tcwBr4tjTW/11:24
EriC^^jdaviescoates: try "grep -iE "thermal.*event|watchdog" /var/log/syslog{,.1}" and zgrep -iE "thermal.*event|watchdog" /var/log/syslog*gz if you want to go further back11:24
EriC^^jdaviescoates: nah i think that's just a status update11:25
jdaviescoatesoh11:25
ledeni jdaviescoates: install lm-sensors and watch temperature with 'watch -n 1 sensors'11:25
EriC^^frad: it's the filename in apt-cache show intltool | grep -i Filename11:26
EriC^^http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu + what it gave back11:26
fradsorry, EriC^^ Im a complete moron11:27
EriC^^frad: type "apt-cache show intltool | grep -i filename" and paste the output here11:28
EriC^^frad: sorry i misread the last line you typed11:29
fradEriC^^ wait, I managed: I saved intltool_0.51.0-5ubuntu1_all.deb into the stick...11:29
EriC^^frad: ok, once it's on the pc run "sudo dpkg -i inttool_....deb" it should install it11:31
jdaviescoates EriC^^ ledeni younder yep, looks like it was temperature:11:31
jdaviescoatesMay 15 11:39:19 josef-ThinkPad-T510 kernel: thermal thermal_zone0: critical temperature reached (103 C), shutting down11:31
* jdaviescoates had better get some new thermal grease...11:32
EriC^^jdaviescoates: if you absolutely need the pc, i like psensor for temperature monitoring, it's a nice gui app that sits in the tray, you can set it to whatever temp to alert you etc11:32
fradSo now I execute: sudo dpkg -i intltool_0.51.0-5ubuntu1_all.deb EriC^^?11:32
EriC^^i mean til you change the thermal paste or something11:32
EriC^^frad: yeah11:33
ledeniEriC^^:jdaviescoates have laptop11:33
jdaviescoatesEriC^^ I do need it, it's my primary/ only machine (aside from an old Samsung NC10 netbook I've got lubuntu on which is sooo slow, and an old Windows machine my tax return software needs to run), I'll try out psensor and look at getting some new thermal grease ASAP (might actually have some somewhere - anyone know if it goes off?)11:34
jdaviescoatesledeni ?11:34
ledeni jdaviescoates:just ignore mistake11:36
fradEriC^^not done so far: I now Need a nss package, damit...11:36
EriC^^jdaviescoates: it seems on laptop's it's a bit more difficult to change but i think it's possible, i'd recommend to first maybe make sure nothing is using up the cpu extensively, and maybe clean the fans using some compressed air, make sure the openings are good, etc, also are you running any settings that might affect fan control such as noacpi or something to do with acpi?11:36
EriC^^jdaviescoates: nevermind from the log you pasted there's no acpi kernel parameters being used11:37
EriC^^jdaviescoates: but i'd keep a look at "top" to see nothings using up the cpu, and maybe give the fans/vent a good cleaning and see what happens first11:38
EriC^^see if the fan is turning on right and stuff as well11:39
EriC^^frad: which package? you mean intltool required is as a dependency?11:39
jdaviescoatesEriC^^ thanks, thankfully Lenovo ThindPads generally pretty easy to service.  Think I may have even done the thermal grease myself before on this machine. Was like using a new machine. I did have a CPU warning whilst on a zoom call not long before, so I used OneTab to close tabs on Firefox. Don't think I had anything else open.11:40
EriC^^frad: it's kind of cumbersome but you could keep following it using 'apt-cache show <package>' and see the Depends line for its dependencies, and also the filename etc and download them all and transfer and "dpkg -i *.deb"11:41
EriC^^jdaviescoates: won't hurt to try 'top' sometimes i get weird kernel threads using up a lot of cpu and stuff like that, who knows11:42
BluesKaj'Morning all11:43
jdaviescoatesEriC^^ yeah perhaps something was going on in the background, I'll try 'top' if/ when I get another one of those CPU warnings whilst on a Zoom call again11:43
jdaviescoatesalso seems thermal paste can go bad so probably best I just get some more (or get local repair shop to do it) rather than digging out old syringe I've still got somewhere...11:44
fradI executed: sudo dpkg -i intltool_0.51.0-5ubuntu1_all.deb, also tried to install networkmanager with ./configure && make && make install and I got the message: No package nss found, no usable nss found for --with-crypto=nss11:44
EriC^^frad: try to use the repo networkmanager deb, it's easier and cleaner11:45
EriC^^frad: maybe you could manually set up the wire without networkmanager somehow then let it install the stuff you need, maybe it's easier that way11:46
fradEriC^^ where I am I am not allowed to connect a lan cable to my notebook11:47
EriC^^frad: see here in case its helpful https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/253030/how-to-setup-network-without-wicd-or-networkmanager11:47
EriC^^frad: wifi perhaps?11:47
captainfantasticHey guys. My ubuntu laptop having read-only erroro on every directory I tried to open after I logged in from suspend. I tried restarting but now it won't even boot. How do i rescue the system?11:51
EriC^^captainfantastic: try to boot into recovery mode from grub, and run 'fsck' to see if the filesystem is good11:52
fradI'm afraid I'm gonna have to nuke my Notebook. I have downloaded xubuntu 20.04 in a usb stick as an .iso file. How do I install it, after making a security copy?11:54
yotam11hello, for some reason i cant connect to my acces point via wi fi, somebody know this problem? and i can connect to other wi fi network11:55
fradok, got it11:55
captainfantasticEriC^^: grub is not showing up :(11:56
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EriC^^captainfantastic: oh, do you have a live usb you can boot?11:59
fradthanks EriC^^, but I'm afraid I'll nuke. The Level of Expertise needed to solve this is so cumbersome11:59
EriC^^frad: no problem, alright12:01
captainfantasticEriC^^: Yeah I have a live usb. Should I chroot into the current ubuntu partition and run fsck command you mentioned?12:02
narakrishHello all, i'm trying to package my application developed using Qt as .deb. I would like to understand how to include the dependencies in the same file or is it possible to install these dependencies during installation of the debian file ?12:02
HypothesisFroghi. I moved my ubuntu ssd to a new, secondhand box, and now I've lost the Grub menu. How can I restore it?12:04
HypothesisFrogand why is it gone?12:04
legreffierHypothesisFrog: what do you get instead ?12:05
legreffieris there other drives in the new box ?12:05
HypothesisFroglegreffier, nothing really. It just reboots into ubuntu.12:06
HypothesisFroglegreffier, there is a second hard drive, I use for storage.12:06
legreffierso your system actually boot ?12:06
HypothesisFroglegreffier, yes. But I want grub back.12:07
EriC^^captainfantastic: yeah i dont think you need to chroot, try sudo fsck /dev/sdxY on the root filesystem and any other main ones you have12:07
legreffierHypothesisFrog: did you ever touch its configuration ?12:08
captainfantasticEriC^^: Thank you very much. I'll try that :)12:08
EriC^^captainfantastic: no problem, alright :)12:08
EriC^^HypothesisFrog: can you pastebin the output of 'cat /etc/default/grub' ?12:09
HypothesisFroglegreffier, what do you mean by its "configuration"? I moved the ssd and the hard drive to the new box. Added a bit of ram. The new box has a better in built in vid card, so I left the Nvidia Quadro in the old box.12:09
yotam11someone is using ubuntu on asus zenbook? i have 2 issues, with the built in screen and with the wifi. cant display anything on the built in screen, only via hdmi to other screen12:09
HypothesisFrogEriC^^, https://pastebin.com/uKgU6y9t12:10
HypothesisFrogsure12:10
EriC^^HypothesisFrog: type "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" and edit GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden to GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu then save and exit and run "sudo update-grub"12:11
HypothesisFrogEriC^^, done. Try it now?12:13
legreffiergive it a try yeah12:14
legreffierwhat is the new video card ?12:14
legreffiermaybe it's here, but it just fails to display12:14
HypothesisFrogEriC^^ and legreffier that works. Thanks.12:14
Tr1nkhello12:15
Tr1nki just install lubuntu alternate CD12:15
HypothesisFroglegreffier: it's actually an old video card. It's the one that's built into the i5-240012:15
Tr1nki wonder how i can use a tape player DDS HP DAT 24 ?12:15
legreffierit should work12:16
EriC^^HypothesisFrog: great, no problem12:18
HypothesisFrogOk now I'm doing a memtest via grub, and it seems to have stalled on 59%, pass 0. Pressing ESC doesn't do anything. Is that normal?12:19
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oceanlegreffier: wow, that's ancient... and cool :) You know if ubuntu already recognizes the scsi device?12:24
Ridley5hi all12:24
Ridley5my hosts file located in  /etc/hosts dont affect my browser12:25
Ridley5i have added the line : 0.0.0.0 facebook.com12:26
Ridley5but facebook  are still working in my browser, i have deleted the browser cache12:26
Ridley5i have Ubuntu 18.04 LTS12:26
Ridley5anyone have an idea12:27
SudoBashCan anyone tell me what is wrong with this netplan config for setting bond0 up? I believe it is this line: "name: enp2s4,enp3s5" because enp* works, but sets all interfaces to bond slaves: https://pastebin.com/TCYRv16w12:27
SudoBashCan anyone tell me what is wrong with this netplan config for setting bond0 up? I believe it is this line: "name: enp2s4,enp3s5" because enp* works, but sets all interfaces to bond slaves: https://pastebin.com/TCYRv16w12:32
Tr1nkocean : yes the adaptec is recognized and also the tape driver ;)12:36
Tr1nkdrive12:36
Tr1nkocean : what do you think ?12:39
Tr1nkocean : ah ok sorry i thought you were talking to me12:40
oceanTr1nk: yes, I was, sorry for the mixup12:40
oceanTr1nk: wel you should be able to use the device using "mt" commands, like mt -f <devicename> rewind12:41
SudoBashI got it... netplan sucks12:42
SudoBashwhoever decided to switch over to this... it is reminiscent of the Unity shit... If it works, stop breaking it12:43
SudoBashwhen is Ubuntu going to learn to stop changing stuff that works really well?12:43
SudoBashthis: https://pastebin.com/H0HNU5U0 is WAY too much to get network interfaces working!12:45
narakrishHello all, I'm running a shell script on Ubuntu 16.04 to check if the dependencies of my application are available on the system. If the dependencies are not available, I'm downloading and installing through apt. The problem i face is that, sometimes if the installation is abruptly closed, the apt gets locked. How can I make sure that apt is never12:46
narakrishlocked and I can proceed with installation ?12:46
Tr1nkit does working but the wonder now is how to activate the compression12:49
oceanTr1nk: nice. You can use mt status to determine if compression is turned on for the device12:52
oceanTr1nk: there's also a more... advanced linux mt command "mt-st" (in universe repo). Comes with an stinit.def where you can configure (compression and other) specs for your device12:56
EriC^^narakrish: maybe you can write something in the start of your script to check if apt/dpkg is doing something, if not and a lockfile exists and its safe to remove it, remove it then start your apt installation needs12:57
Tr1nkocean : ok thx a lot12:57
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chuunaHi, I'm tring to install zgrab2 from: https://github.com/zmap/zgrab2 on ubuntu 18.04 but it seem to fail. here is the error log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fxtxCQCq5C/ anyone know what I've messed up?13:12
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MikeRLWell, sadly the BT problems returned and I'm uncertain what's causing them or how to fix them. I think I got it to connect once.13:40
MikeRLIt can connect, at least the GUI shows it, but it fails to play back sound period or show under audio devices for output.13:40
raddyHello13:40
raddyI have a crontab entry to which I am getting bad username.13:41
MikeRLRunning 20.04. sudo lsusb |grep Bluetooth returns "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0a5c:21e8 Broadcom Corp. BCM20702A0 Bluetooth 4.0"13:42
raddy0 */2 * * * *   root    su postgres -c "psql -U postgres hits -a -f /opt/postgresql/killidleconnections.sql"13:42
raddyrunning the command manually works fine.13:42
raddymy crontab entry is correct still I am getting that error13:43
leftyfbraddy: create a systemd unit/timer that runs as the postgres user13:44
wedrI added a new "ln --symbolic ./foo foo" in my /usr/local/bin/ directory. But now the created symbolic link isn't showing up in my terminal. What is the best way to reload this directory, so the terminal knows the new symbolic link?13:44
leftyfbraddy: or setup that crontab in the postgres users crontab, not root.13:44
wedrOn default Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS installation13:45
MikeRLOn some research it appears I need additional firmware. https://jphein.com/fix-for-pluggable-bluetooth-dongle-in-ubuntu-linux-17-10-bluetooth-headsets-not-working/13:45
leftyfbwedr: exit/cd out of the directory and then go back in13:45
wedrleftyfb, No, what I meant to ask was, how do I get the symbolic link to be "seen" by the terminal, when invoking "which foo"?13:46
leftyfbwedr: add /usr/local/bin to your $PATH13:46
wedroh13:46
wedrleftyfb, added to the $PATH, used "source" to refresh or reload the $PATH variable, but that didn't do much help. "which foo" didn't show my symbolic link.  I guess I have to restart...13:49
wedrwhich I won't do until the end of the day.13:50
leftyfbwedr: echo $PATH13:50
lotuspsychjewedr: when are you going to update your system to 18.04.4? every question you come asking here is on outdated system13:50
leftyfbwedr: does /usr/local/bin show up in the result?13:50
wedrLate July 2020, this is a work laptop13:50
wedrwait13:50
wedr18.04.4?13:50
lotuspsychje!uptodate | wedr13:51
ubottuwedr: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.13:51
wedrI know13:51
wedrI didn't realize there's still patches13:51
JediMasterHey guys, can anyone suggest an alternative (or stack) to Papertrail for self-hosted log monitoring across a fairly large number of Ubuntu instances? I have briefly looked at ELK, wanted to know what people use.13:53
wedrleftyfb, https://hatebin.com/fvpbmqgcjt    Apparently, I have /usr/local/bin in there twice.13:54
leftyfbwedr: ok, then you're doing something wrong13:54
leftyfbwedr: ls -l /usr/local/bin/13:54
raddyleftyfb: 0 */2 * * * *  postgres psql -U postgres hits -a -f /opt/postgresql/killidleconnections.sql still shows error13:54
raddysame error13:54
wedrleftyfb, Here you go:  https://hatebin.com/yqvlsbnowr13:55
wedroh, sorry, didn't realize you're also troubleshooting someone else's.13:56
raddyerror was in time specication13:56
leftyfbwedr: ls -l /home/nintendo/Apps/eclipse/jee-2020-06/eclipse13:56
wedrleftyfb, https://hatebin.com/igschbvjce Here you go13:57
leftyfbwedr: /home/nintendo/Apps/eclipse/jee-2020-06/eclipse is a directory13:57
leftyfbwedr: /usr/local/bin is meant for binaries13:57
wedroh wait...13:57
wedryou're right. forgot a second eclipse in there13:58
wedrthanks13:58
raddyexit13:58
MikeRLWell the additional driver didn't fix anything.14:00
MikeRLAs for a background, now at this point I'm fed up with this Broadcom Bluetooth USB adapter. And if anyone knows of any good, relatively modern USB adapters that don't hate Linux, let me know.14:01
MikeRLI've tried manually adding drivers, the command line, all sorts of tricks. It will see the device but pairing never works. Earbuds don't appear as an additional audio output device in settings. Not good. Just looking for a recommended replacement.14:02
lotuspsychjeMikeRL: ubuntu version? kernel version? gnomes BT or blueman?14:03
MikeRLSorry. Ubuntu 20.04. Kernel is 5.6.13. I've tried Gnome BT and Blueman.14:05
jnlarI'm having trouble with my .profile not executing a xbksetmap command on ubuntu 20.0414:05
MikeRLI honestly think the driver doesn't like Linux, period.14:05
jnlaranyone else having this issue? e.g setxkbmap -option caps:swapescape14:05
lotuspsychjeMikeRL: did it not work on 5.4 kernel?14:05
MikeRLI can check the 5.4 kernel.14:06
MikeRLWill reboot and be right back.14:06
olspookishmagushello is there a CLI command that will proceed to SHUTDOWN/RESTART a "live system" without having to wait for confirmation about removing the "live media"?14:10
MikeRLStill doesn't work on 5.4 kernel.14:12
lotuspsychjeMikeRL: ok, can we see a pastebin of your dmesg plz?14:12
MikeRLlotuspsychje, What command? I tried a dmesg command and it was blank for bt.14:12
lotuspsychjedmesg14:13
MikeRLOh ok.14:13
olspookishmagussudo dmesg ?14:13
MikeRLhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YJyvBm83kD/14:13
MikeRLA lot looks like it's firewall related.14:14
Sven_vBactually I can't find any entry that's not ufw audit.14:14
MikeRLSame here.14:15
olspookishmagusalso I would appreciate some help or instructions/documentation on this procedure I have to undertake: I wish to install Ubuntu+Win10 on a system with UEFI boot. Something detailed and in steps would be ideal.14:15
Sven_vBfor debugging BT, I'd temporarily decrease the ufw log level.14:15
biebI am going to be adding 2 hard drives to an ubuntu 18.04 server for data storage. Can I add them both into the same mount point, basically doubling the size of the data store? ie, 2 - 2tb hard drives, mount point /mydata14:17
akemYou can mount 2 drives on the same mount point afaik.14:19
akemcannot*14:19
MikeRLI disabled it/14:19
MikeRLThe logging.14:20
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, I have recently converted a Win10 notebook to dual boot. my approach was to start with a computer that had win10 installed. I then disabled the windows encryption because it seemed a requied pre-step to shrink drives. I then shrunk the windows partition to make about 80 GB space for Ubuntu. I created (using windows) in that space 2x 512 MB FAT drives (not required but I like to have those for stuff like temporary ESP or14:20
Sven_vBboot partition), and one large NTFS that I would later format to LVM. I copied the xubuntu live ISO to C:/boot-isos/ , then bootet the SuperGrub Disk, and from that, chain-booted the ISO from disk.14:20
akembieb, You probably want something like /mydata/drive1 /mydata/drive214:20
biebakem: so the only way would be as RAID? or would LVM work?14:20
akembieb, You need 3 drives at least for RAID 5 IIRC, you could only do RAID 1 with 2 drives, mirroring.14:21
MikeRLhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cYy7tmJxc6/14:22
biebakem: ok.. thanks14:22
MikeRLI trimmed it. Still had a lot of firewall logs even with logging off.14:22
akembieb, Don't know about LVM.14:22
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, I like to boot the live ISO from disk or SSD mainly because it works a lot faster than from USB thumbdrives.14:22
biebakem: me either on lvm14:22
kur1jhow can I track down whats using my disk space? df -h shows /dev/sda2                             439G  416G     0 100% /. But if I run sudo du -h / --max-depth=1 the / directory only shows 119GB used14:23
MikeRLI'm thinking of buying an aptx audio adapter instead. Someone recommended the Creative W2. Yes they use the latest Ubuntu version, and since I mostly only use audio, it shouldn't hurt.14:23
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, modern Ubuntus automatically detect windows installs and include them in the GRUB menu. you might need to make that GRUB menu more visible though. I don't care because I manage GRUB myself, manually.14:24
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, about really quick but unclean shutdown: sudo poweroff --force14:26
olspookishmagusSven_vB: is is still necessary to disable UEFI?14:26
olspookishmagusSven_vB: all you care for being "unclean" is in case you have something mounted "rw" right?14:27
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, booting in UEFI mode makes stuff much easier with Ubuntu nowadays.14:27
olspookishmagusSven_vB: yeah, I have this goodie http://iodd.kr/wordpress/product/iodd-2541/ with a FAST ssd inside14:27
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, in my case, due to the flaky EFI firmware on that computer, it was even required that I enable UEFI and secure boot, and select GRUB as an acceptable secure boot target.14:28
olspookishmagusSven_vB: so the guides who say that I should have it disabled, are outdated?14:28
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, yes. in my case, following those guides would have prevented me from booting GRUB.14:29
olspookishmagusso are there any up-to-date guides? ^^14:30
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, if your Windows boots in UEFI mode, UEFI obviously works, and then grub-efi should work as well.14:30
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, for me the steps I described seemd so straight-forward, I wouldn't see a need for a guide.14:31
Sven_vBI'd say just try, and if you get stuck, ask here. :)14:31
Sven_vBif you need exact where-to-click guides for stuff like resizing windows disks, your search engine probably has those.14:33
bitblitmatti: think I found a better solution using intel_powerclamp. it's exposed at /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device9/cur_state. echo 50 > cur_state keeps me around 60C.14:57
fred1807What command gives me this  nice output I get every time I log into my ubuntu ec2 machine?15:02
fred1807https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/en0evEeN/15:02
gildartsfred1807: Check /etc/motd or similar.15:03
fred1807'/etc/motd': No such file or directory15:03
fred1807what would be a similar?15:03
gildartsLet me check my machine...15:03
mattibitblit: Nice.15:04
mattibitblit: I still wonder why you, in particular, have so much issues.15:04
olspookishmagusSven_vB: I think I'll go for each OS to be on it's own HDD15:04
gildartsfred1807: They are in /etc/update-motd.d15:05
gildartsThere is a process that turns those files into the motd message that you see.15:06
Sven_vBolspookishmagus, that's ok as well.15:06
bitblitmatti: it seems I'm staying in turbo speed states too long, and intel's 95C limit is ridiculous. trying to change that under /sys doesn't seem to be allowed..15:10
fred1807thx15:11
kenperkinsok, as much as I love ubuntu15:16
kenperkinsI'm so frustrated at sound devices coming and going seemingly at random15:16
kenperkinsthere must be a way to debug why a device has disappeared15:16
bitblitkenperkins: maybe sudo journalctl --system -f, or journalctl --u pulseaudio15:21
bitblitkenperkins: also man pulse-client.conf, might be able to enable logging there.15:25
kenperkinsyea first observation was no logs in journalctl15:26
MutabahI'm having issues loading unity after an upgrade to 20.04. Selecting "Ubuntu" as the shell gives me a semi-functional GUI (no alt-tab, but at least it has a window manager etc), but "Unity" leads to just a background15:26
bitbliti didn't realize it wasn't a system service. looks like it runs per user. config in ~/.config/pulse/15:26
kenperkinsbitblit: it's wierd, I swear every time I open gnome settings->sound there's different options15:28
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MutabahHas anyone seen other reports of Unity breaking after the 20.04 upgrade?15:31
Tr1nkocean : works but very slow15:35
Tr1nk:|15:36
Tr1nkall night long...15:36
rangergordI'd like to set a permanent system-wide environment variable. I googled and the clean way (per freedesktop.org) is to place a "myenvvars.sh" with "export PATH=/opt/testsdk/bin:$PATH" in /etc/environment.d. However it doesn't seem like Ubuntu supports this (trying 18.04). I know about /etc/profile and /etc/environment but that doesn't seem as clean as having separate files defining separate for separate purposes, the way15:38
rangergord/etc/apt/sources.list.d does.15:38
rangergordwhy doesnt Ubuntu support environment.d?15:38
tatertotsthere is already an existing way to "set" permanent environment variables15:41
tatertotsa search engine would quickly guide you to doing so15:41
kenperkins.bashrc?15:48
oerheks1https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#System-wide_environment_variables15:49
oerheks1easy to find15:49
DyrconaUpgrading a server remotely from 18.04 to 20.04, I get this message during the update-initramfs step: modinfo: ERROR: could not get modinfo from 'crc32': No such file or directory15:50
DyrconaThe upgrade now appears to be stuck.15:52
jfcaron#ubuntu-mate16:08
jfcaronoops16:08
thehumanelementgreets16:11
thehumanelementanyone know if this is a thing? Searching the Web is not coming up with the goods16:11
thehumanelementam wondering if I can enable SSH server on a USB so I can boot it headless?16:12
thehumanelementeither desktop or server Ubuntu, doesn't matter16:12
kenperkinsok, so I found errors in dmesg: how do I track down _why_ this happened16:14
kenperkinsbasically at the same time: the usb disconnected my headphone device, then reconnected it on a new device number ~0.9s later, but the new devices don't appear in my pulseaudio config16:15
DyrconaWell, my upgrade appears to have worked after a reboot.16:18
thehumanelementhuzzah!16:20
fromBeyondHi. When trying to update via apt-get, I am getting the error E: The repository 'http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu disco-backports Release' no longer has a Release file.  Is this because I am running Ubuntu 19, and it is not LTE? Or is there some other reason. Thank you16:21
BluesKajfromBeyond, ubuntu 19 what? , if it's 19.04 then it's EOL16:24
BluesKaj!EOL16:24
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:24
fromBeyondBluesKaj: thank you. Hence my best course of action is updateing to 20?16:24
jfcaronI removed snap, snapd, and /snap from my Ubuntu 18.04 LTS installation, but /snap/bin still shows up in my PATH (at the end).  It's not set in my .bashrc or .profile.  Where is /snap/bin being added to my PATH?16:24
thehumanelementdisco==19.0416:24
BluesKajfromBeyond, yes16:24
BluesKaj20.0416:25
fromBeyondBluesKaj: will do that now. Thank you very much for your help16:25
BluesKajnp16:25
jfcaronIt looks like something called "ubuntu-advantage? from /usr/bin is appending /snap/bin to my PATH?16:37
oerheks1removing snaps? you might as well hop distro..16:38
jfcaronI already removed snaps, but I'm shaving a yak cuz /snap/bin is still in PATH for some reason.16:39
zutatdoes 20.04 not have deb equivalents of snapped applications?16:43
oerheks1zutat, for some, yes16:44
oerheks1gnome-calculator as example16:45
oerheks1!info gnome-calculator16:45
ubottugnome-calculator (source: gnome-calculator): GNOME desktop calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.34.1-1ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 331 kB, installed size 2944 kB16:45
JakeSaysi'm finding 20.04 to be messed up. i regret upgrading16:52
lotuspsychje!discuss | JakeSays16:52
ubottuJakeSays: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!16:52
JakeSayslotuspsychje: so this isn't the place to discus ubuntu issues?16:52
lotuspsychjeJakeSays: no, come join #ubuntu-discuss wand we can talk about it16:53
lotuspsychje*and16:53
oerheks1nothing we can do about 'regret' ..16:54
thehumanelementI think Ubuntu for Raspberry Pi (the preinstalled image) does this, but anyone know if one can configure the standard (now "live") server installation USB with automatic configuration settings, e.g. UN+PW+installSSH17:04
thehumanelement(or could someone push me in the right direction, i.e. what should I search for?!)17:08
waveformthehumanelement, sounds like you want (one of) the cloud images: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/focal/current/17:10
JakeSaysok my specific issue is this: three padding bytes in termios are being returned with garbage in 20.04, and they were zero'd in 19.10. does anyone have a clue about this?17:10
waveform(that's basically what the pi image is - a cloud image customized for the pi)17:10
JakeSayser, this involves the tcgetattr call17:11
fellowcultisthaving an issue with gnutls and pkg-config, can I seek help here?17:11
Sven_vBthehumanelement, you can select the seed to be used via kernel command line, I think it's called OEM install.17:14
thehumanelementsweet, thanks @waveform @Sven_vB17:14
Sven_vBthehumanelement, for targets with very limited disk space, I'd multistrap Ubuntu instead, and only install what's necessary.17:15
* Sven_vB actually does this everywhere because it's faster.17:15
thehumanelementno limits as such, I just don't have a VGA monitor cable/monitor spare! Need to go in to an old HP MicroServer with just power+Gigabit+USBdrive17:15
Sven_vBthehumanelement, doesn't your Pi expose a serial link over USB?17:16
Sven_vBthehumanelement, if the disk is removeable, it might even be easier to transplant it, install, and transplant it back.17:17
Sven_vBthehumanelement, you could also prepare a live USB with casper-rw partition, install VNC there, and install graphically via VNC.17:19
thehumanelementthis is not a pi, it's a HP MicroServer (miniITX-ish cheapo server with an AMD64 chip)17:32
thehumanelementPi preinstalled Ubuntu image works great, can SSH in as root/root on first boot, no installation required17:33
RadSurferhas anyone had problem launching Spyder3 Python 3.7 IDE lately? It refuses to run here all of a sudden Ub 19.1017:33
thehumanelementI just want to tweak a USB-stick with Ubuntu Server on it so I can SSH in and install over SSH, or it does the complete install, not bothered17:33
waveformthehumanelement, ah - the cloud images I pointed to earlier won't do an install; they're a "pre-installed" image (like the pi one) so if you stick it on a USB stick, it'll try and run your server from that USB stick :)17:34
Sven_vBthehumanelement, installing over SSH should work nicely with multistrap.17:35
* Sven_vB goes read about the cloud image.17:36
waveformthey're basically pre-installed server images intended for cloud use (obviously), but there are images that can run happily "on the metal". dd 'em to some storage, boot it, and (just like the pi images, which are based on the same seed), they'll expand on first boot, run thru cloud-init, etc. etc.17:39
waveformThat said, it may not be ideal for this case as they do expect to be copied onto the final storage medium; i.e. it's not going to install itself from a USB stick onto a hard-drive17:39
Sven_vBstill sounds good for "install over SSH"17:41
waveformyeah, boot off a USB, dd the image over SSH onto the server's internal drive - certainly an option17:42
Sven_vBdo they have some mechanism for customization (e.g. passwords, SSH authorized keys, ???) even easier than chrooting in after the raw copy?17:43
SynfulAckAnyone familiar with lvm and know why I cant create a cache? says something about cache single fast not found.? https://pastebin.com/x6Z8ZUYD17:43
waveformSven_vB, cloud-init (https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ plus a brief post I wrote about using this on the pi: https://waldorf.waveform.org.uk/2020/securing-your-ubuntu-pi.html)17:43
Sven_vBthanks!17:44
JakeSaysafter upgrading to 20.04 i'm having issues with my network. it has something to do with the names eth0 and eno1. any ideas?17:45
RadSurferCAN someone help with this please :: http://dpaste.com/2NS4YCQ17:47
waveformSynfulAck, I no expert on the caching options in LV, but I've just grepped the man-page and can't find a --cachevol option; there is a --cachepool option that takes an LV though?17:48
waveformin *LVM even17:48
SynfulAckwaveform, wb this http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/lvmcache.7.html `lvconvert --type cache --cachevol fast vg/main`17:49
RadSurferwrong version of PyQt5.* is now installed, how do I return back to proper version?17:50
waveformSynfulAck, if I look at "man 7 lvmcache" on my bionic server I don't see any mention of --cachevol in there - I'd check that same manual page on your server as that'll be for the version of LVM that you've got installed17:51
Sven_vBJakeSays, are you using NetworkManager and/or systemd-networkd? (if so, which?)17:55
JakeSaysSven_vB: it appears both17:57
Sven_vBJakeSays, make sure each interface is managed only by one of them17:58
JakeSaysSven_vB: i seem to recall adding networkmanager last time this happened in an attempt to fix it. can i uninstall it w/o causing issues?17:59
Sven_vBJakeSays, I can't tell remotely whether it might causs issues. always make sure you have some backup access route if you change network-related software. (e.g. via nullmodem or chroot)18:00
JakeSaysSven_vB: my backup route is wifi. it's only ethernet that's failing18:00
Sven_vBor local terminal of course18:01
Sven_vBis your wifi managed by NM?18:01
JakeSaysthis started failing immediately after the upgrade to 20.0418:01
JakeSayshow do i tell?18:01
Sven_vBnmcli conn18:01
Sven_vBalso nmcli dev18:01
JakeSaysit's green so i assume it is18:02
Sven_vBthen it should, in theory, be safe to uninstall NetworkManager.18:02
Sven_vBerr no18:02
Sven_vBnetworkd18:02
fromBeyondHi. I am trying to update my distro, but I keep getting an error Err:1 http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu disco-updates/main amd64 base-files amd64 10.1ubuntu9.218:02
fromBeyond  404  Not Found [IP: 193.2.1.88 80]18:02
Sven_vB:D18:02
fromBeyondI am currently on 19.0418:02
WoetfromBeyond: https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-19-04-end-of-life/18:03
JakeSaysi was able to recover from this once via doing something with udevadm.. cant remember what i did though18:03
WoetfromBeyond: your system has been insecure for 4 months now18:03
WoetfromBeyond: upgrade to 19.10, or, preferably, 20.04.18:03
Sven_vBJakeSays, yeah once it's only one network system to debug, we can start with the actual debugging.18:04
fromBeyondWoet: I am trying. But when I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade I get the error I posted above18:04
JakeSaysSven_vB: ok. removing netman now18:04
fromBeyondWoet: i will read the link now18:04
WoetfromBeyond: you don't have do-release-upgrade?18:04
Sven_vBJakeSays, err, hopefully networkd, my first message was wrong.18:05
JakeSaysSven_vB: what do you mean?18:05
WoetfromBeyond: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:05
Tuna-FishHi, is there a way to mount a disk read-only and disregard file permissions on the disk, granting read rights to all files for some user without modifying the underlying filesystem?18:06
Sven_vBJakeSays, I was still thinking of NetworkManager from the nmcli tests, but obviously the "safe to uninstall" thought was meant to mean the *other* network system, so in this case networkd.18:06
Sven_vBJakeSays, nmcli is part of NM18:06
JakeSayslol too late. just uninstalled netman18:07
merpnderpIs there a way to automatically install security updates in Ubuntu 18?18:07
Sven_vBJakeSays, then you could try and get wifi to work with networkd, or reinstall NM.18:07
JakeSaysSven_vB: wifi is still working18:07
merpnderpunattended-upgrades18:08
Sven_vBJakeSays, yes it will probably continue for as long as your wifi authentification remains valid.18:08
RadSurferis someone going to tell me HOW to install "PyQt5" to the CURRENT version please (wrong version was accidentally installed)18:08
JakeSaysSven_vB: i'm positive i installed netman, and wifi was working before that18:08
Sven_vBJakeSays, ok then we could try and fix networkd cable connection.18:09
JakeSaysSven_vB: sounds like a plan18:09
fromBeyondWoet: I dont have apptitude installed, so I cannot follow the link18:10
JakeSayswhen this first started happening i was getting this in dmesg: "eth0: Failed to rename network interface 2 from 'eth0' to 'eno1': File exists"18:10
WoetfromBeyond: follow "Update sources.list" and your apt will work again18:10
fromBeyondWoet: i completelly missed that, sorry. Will be right back18:10
Sven_vBJakeSays, that might be a result of both network managers trying to rename the same interface the same way.18:11
JakeSayshow do i restart the network w/o restarting the machine18:11
Sven_vBJakeSays, before that, what are the interface names now?18:12
JakeSaysSven_vB: eno1 and eth0. and now eth0 is up. wtf18:12
Sven_vBJakeSays, so what problems are remaining, if any?18:13
JakeSaysafter uninstalling netman i no longer have the status icon on the task bar18:13
Sven_vBindeed. not sure if there is a dock applet for networkd.18:13
Sven_vBthe former icon was provided by nm-applet probably.18:14
d0tsun7Hey guys. I upgraded to Kernel 5.6.13 from 5.4.1 on Ubuntu 19.10 and unfortunately, it caused an error with my VFIO graphics passthrough for my Windows guest VM and I switched back to 5.4.1. before I test other newer Kernels. Anyhow, UKUU shows 5.6.13 is no longer installed, but it shows up in my GRUB and tries to boot from it and causes the same error. How should I resolve this. Thanks.18:15
JakeSayslol. i just remembered i have two nic's in this machine. so my guess is the wrong one is being brought up18:15
JakeSaysor attempted to18:15
d0tsun7(I can go to advanced settings and boot to 5.4.1 and all is fine, but I need it removed entirely.)18:15
d0tsun7(5.6.13, that is, to be removed entirely.)18:16
JakeSaysSven_vB: ok i think i have a handle on that one.18:16
Sven_vBJakeSays, this project claims it can show networkd status as a tray icon: https://github.com/loh-tar/wpa-cute18:17
d0tsun7sudo ukuu --list-installed18:17
d0tsun7[sudo] password for thomas-pc2:18:17
d0tsun7ukuu v18.9.318:17
d0tsun7Distribution: Ubuntu 19.1018:17
d0tsun7Architecture: amd6418:17
d0tsun7Running kernel: 5.4.1-050401-generic18:17
Woetwelp.18:17
JakeSaysso one more major issue: when i boot my machine i get very low resolution video, and a terminal cursor. the only way to fix it that i've found is to install v430 of my nvidia drivers. however the fix doesn't stick - next time i reboot it's messed up again.18:18
Sven_vBJakeSays, low res video as in "just" low thousands, or 640x480?18:19
eelstrebori have multiple vlc icons at the top of the screen and more get added after each use of vlc - they don' go away unless i reboot - i followed one suggestion to set in preferences for one instance of vlc but then some apps won't launch vlc after doing that18:19
JakeSaysSven_vB: 640x48018:19
JakeSaysi vaguely recall it being 320x240 even18:20
Sven_vBoh wow18:20
JakeSaysbut the desktop is still full size, so i only see a very small portion of it18:21
Sven_vBJakeSays, when you've booted in that low res mode, does it still boot into Gnome?18:21
Sven_vBoh ok18:21
JakeSaysi'm on kde18:21
Sven_vBwhat's the graphics card detected as, and does that match the real hardware?18:22
Sven_vBalso what does xrandr report when you have that low-res situation? and when you take a screenshot then, is the screenshot the expected size?18:23
JakeSaysugh. i dont remember. i'll restart and capture it.18:23
JakeSaysand xrandr too and screenshot.18:23
JakeSaysbrb18:23
chaslinuxSo I was trying some other LDAP settings in my /etc/krb5.conf (on client computer). When it didn't work I reverted to the old settings. The old settings no longer work either. Beyond rebooting was there something else that needed to be done after changing the krb5.conf file?18:29
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Makdaamhello, what troubleshooting can I do on a non-working SD card reader (RT 525A)? It shows up in lspci. But I don't know what /dev should show up19:03
sarnoldMakdaam: check dmesg output when you insert it19:06
ioriaMakdaam, card readers sometimes want proprietary drivers ; lspci -nnk19:07
Sven_vBmine doesn't even show up in lspci :(19:10
ioriaSven_vB, you're not the only one19:11
evilsis there a way to bring forth a window on a hidden secondary display?19:11
Sven_vBevils, like moving it to another desktop, or move it inside a shared desktop?19:12
evilsmove the active window to the primary window would be ideal19:12
Sven_vBwmctrl can do it, probably xdotool also19:12
evilssry, active window to the primary monitor19:12
Makdaamioria: 54:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader [10ec:525a] (rev 01) Subsystem: Lenovo RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader [17aa:2297] Kernel modules: rtsx_pci19:13
Makdaamso looks like it's using the rtsx_pci module19:13
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MakdaamI don't see any block device19:14
ioriaMakdaam, you should look for 'Kernel module in use' not Kernel module19:14
evilsso no GUI based way?19:14
ioriaMakdaam,  what's your kernel ?19:16
Sven_vBevils, your window manager might have a key shortcut for "move to current desktop and raise". which WM do you use?19:18
evilsSven_vB: the default ubuntu one19:18
Makdaam5.4.0-29-generic #33-Ubuntu19:18
JakeSaysUghSven_vB: i have bigger issues :( i've lost all network connectivity19:18
ioriaMakdaam,  and dmesg is silent when you plug a card ?19:21
Sven_vBJakeSaysUgh, shall we focus on getting networkd to work, or on reinstalling NM?19:21
JakeSaysUghSven_vB: lets go back to nm19:21
Sven_vBJakeSaysUgh, are you familiar with chroot rescue?19:22
JakeSaysUghno19:22
Sven_vB!chroot19:22
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot19:22
jimyou guys have a bot like judd?19:22
JakeSaysUghi'm familiar with chroot, just not the rescue part19:23
Makdaamioria: yes, nothing in dmesg19:23
Sven_vBoh ok. I had hoped the article would explain which bind mounts we'll need19:23
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jimI want to look up versions of stuff... is there a bot for that? a website for that?19:23
JakeSaysUghcan i just download the deb on to a usv stick and transfer it to the busted machine?19:23
JakeSaysUgh*usb19:24
Sven_vBJakeSaysUgh, you'll need all the dependencies, too. then an offline dpkg -i should indeed work.19:24
ioriaMakdaam,  the 'Kernel driver in use' line  ?19:24
JakeSaysUghlol ok it might be easier to get networkd working19:25
Sven_vBJakeSaysUgh, however, it might be easier to do one ifconfig to get cable ethernet up19:25
JakeSaysUghchasing deps could be a pita19:25
Makdaamioria: there's no such line19:25
MakdaamI mean there is for other devices19:25
JakeSaysUghSven_vB: ah ok.19:25
Makdaambot not this one19:25
ioriaMakdaam,  so it cannot work , i'd say19:25
Makdaam:/ it's supposedly "certified" https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201908-27271 thanks for help19:26
ioriayes, i saw it19:26
Makdaamin the mean time I found someone modifying a module for a different model of the reader19:26
MakdaamI'll try that19:26
ioriaMakdaam,  someone edited rtsx_pci.c19:27
JakeSaysUghSven_vB: ifconfig eth0 up brought it up, but no connectivity for some reason19:30
Sven_vBJakeSaysUgh, you'll need to assign an IP and a default gateway probably.19:30
Sven_vBalso a subnet mask or prefix length19:30
JakeSaysUghshouldn't dhcp handle that?19:31
Sven_vBJakeSaysUgh, yes, that is one method of assigning them. :) in that case, you'll need to tell your DHCP client (I think dhclient) to configure that interface.19:31
Sven_vBiirc, it was sudo dhclient eno119:32
JakeSaysSven_vB: ahh back in business'ish19:33
Sven_vB:)19:34
Sven_vBI'll check if it's even possible to uninstall networkd easily19:36
JakeSaysis there an advantage of one over the other?19:36
Sven_vBNM has a nice systray applet.19:37
JakeSaysthat would be handy for sure19:38
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JakeSaysso i guess if we can uninstall or disable networkd19:39
sarnoldnetworkd should leave alone whatever you don't configure, no?19:39
Sven_vByes it should. also I see that it is not supposed to be uninstalled, just disabled.19:40
Sven_vBwhat does "systemctl status systemd-networkd" say? should be "inactive (dead)"19:41
JakeSaysit's active and running19:41
JakeSaysif i disable it will i lose my connection?19:42
Sven_vBwhen you have NM set up again, reboot and see if networkd is still running19:42
ioriaJakeSays, i'd check my .yaml file in /etc/netplan19:42
Sven_vBJakeSays, it should not interfere with your manual ifconfig + dhclient; if it does, you may need to repeat both.19:43
JakeSaysioria: it says network:\n version: 2\n renderer:NetworkManager19:43
JakeSaysok. i'll re-install nm real quick19:44
ioriaJakeSays, so why  systemd-networkd.service is running ?19:44
JakeSaysioria: i have no idea why it's running19:44
JakeSayssomething bad happened during my 20.04 upgrade19:44
ioriaJakeSays, and network-manager is up and running ?19:45
JakeSaysioria: after installing netman network-online.target and network.target are running19:47
JakeSaysand so is systemd-networkd19:48
ioriaJakeSays, ps -A | grep Network19:49
JakeSaysyup it's running19:50
ioriaJakeSays, if so, i suggest to 'stoip' and 'disable' systemd-networkd.service19:51
ioria*stop19:51
JakeSaysioria: done19:52
JakeSaysstill have networkd-dispatcher running19:53
ioriathat's normal19:53
JakeSaysdo i reboot and see what's up?19:54
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x0nanyone actively using zsys?20:01
JakeSaysSven_vB: did a reboot and the network still doesn't start correctly, but i can handle it manually for now.20:09
JakeSaysbut i really need to get a handle on the video20:09
JakeSaysthis is what i'm seeing: https://imgur.com/a/k3D1H6s20:12
NoiseEeehey there, does anyone know if there's any way to add software that comes in an ".AppImage" to my "Favourites" panel?  Even via a shortcut or whatever??  20.0420:12
x0nI have a raspi with ZFS on root (encryption=on). Everything is configured correctly, but at boot it takes forever for the ZFS password prompt to show up. How to debug this?20:14
JakeSaysx0n: lol zfs on a pi is a bold move20:16
haltdefanyone that says it needs 1GB of ram per TB of storage is getting a poked eye20:16
Sven_vBJakeSays, I don't have a full browser here, I'd need a direct image link. or someone else can help of course. or maybe it's even easy to describe what you see?20:19
JakeSayshaltdef: it does if you're using deduplication20:19
haltdefyeah, people parrot it as a requirement for zfs in general20:20
haltdefand that upsets me20:20
JakeSaysSven_vB: picture a desktop in 640x480. then picture a text mode console. overlay that on top of the desktop, and that's what i'm seeing.20:21
JakeSayshaltdef: yeah it's nuts20:21
JakeSaysand dedup isn't a commonly useful use case anyway20:22
aaardvark_I just brought up a google clound instance - ubuntu 20.4 - I use ecryptfs - it is not there and ecryptfs-utils seems not to be available - what am I missing here?20:22
JakeSaysencryptfs would be my guess. :D20:23
JakeSaysdisclaimer: i know nothing.20:23
EriC^^!info ecryptfs-utils20:24
ubottuecryptfs-utils (source: ecryptfs-utils): ecryptfs cryptographic filesystem (utilities). In component universe, is optional. Version 111-0ubuntu5 (eoan), package size 103 kB, installed size 572 kB20:24
EriC^^aaardvark_: it's in the universe repo, sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update20:24
aaardvark_EriC^^: no add-apt-repository20:26
EriC^^aaardvark_: hmm20:27
EriC^^aaardvark_: you could always just add universe to your /etc/apt/sources.list20:27
x0nJakeSays: performance is OK-ish. It's a pi4 so USB3, but my impressu20:27
x0n*impression is that I got an overall better deal on the pi320:28
JakeSaysah20:28
JakeSaysx0n: so you're using it with an external drive?20:29
x0nDrive is a proper SATA SSD on a USB bridge20:29
JakeSaysok cool20:29
x0ncorrect20:29
EriC^^aaardvark_: for me "software-properties-common" is the package that provides add-apt-repository20:29
aaardvark_EriC^^: since this is a test - and not a production system I'm willing to do that - what do I add20:29
x0nJust that it takes forever to load at boot. Didn't have this issue with raspbian20:30
aaardvark_EriC^^: I add ed the software-proerties.. - and sure enough I do not have add-apt-repository  - but it tells me that universe is invalid20:32
JakeSaysx0n: why'd you switch to ubuntu?20:32
EriC^^aaardvark_: that's pretty odd20:33
aaardvark_EriC^^: I'm beginig to NOT BE A FAN of google cloud services - just we have a client who REALLY wants to use them20:34
x0nJakeSays: you fishing for compliments? ;)20:34
JakeSaysx0n: lol not sure what you mean20:34
x0nDo you want me to praise Ubuntu? I have several reasons for switching, not least that ZFS is a first class citizen on Ubuntu. Also KVM20:36
EriC^^aaardvark_: add to /etc/apt/sources.list "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal universe"20:36
JakeSaysx0n: lol i dont care if you praise ubuntu or not. i'm just a user.20:36
JakeSaysx0n: ah you must have a pi4 with 4gb ram20:37
EriC^^aaardvark_: same for focal-updates if you also are using that there, add it with universe20:37
EriC^^then sudo apt update20:37
x0nJakeSays: indeed. It's pretty nice for its size20:39
aaardvark_EriC^^: remember, I can't add the universe, when I do the add-apt-repository universe - I get an error that universe is invalid20:42
aaardvark_EriC^^: just a a WEIRD aspect - I spun up a 19.10 and all is clean20:49
EriC^^aaardvark_: did you try adding manually to /etc/apt/sources.list in 20.04? that should do it20:50
EriC^^or maybe just manually download ecryptfs deb and its deps and install using dpkg20:50
aaardvark_EriC^^: I did not20:51
EriC^^i think it should work, apt wont know it's the universe repo, it'll likely treat it as it would any ppa20:51
waveformx0n, you could try systemd-analyze with "critical-chain" or "blame" to get a hint as to what's taking ages in the boot sequence20:55
x0nwaveform: good idea, thanks20:56
metbsdlubuntu and xubuntu which is more lightweight20:56
x0nwhile I'm here: anyone using zsys? I'm after some impressions from using it in practice20:57
x0nIt doesn't look at all bad at first glance20:58
chuunaHi, I'm tring to install zgrab2 from: https://github.com/zmap/zgrab2 on ubuntu 18.04 but it seem to fail. here is the error log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fxtxCQCq5C/ anyone know what I've messed up?21:00
leftyfbchuuna: you'll have to contact the developer for support21:01
sarnoldchuuna: do you have to go get a bunch of things?21:02
sarnoldchuuna: is there a makefile that automates the steps you need to take?21:02
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EriC^^chuuna: what does 'find $GOROOT -iname ed25519' give?21:05
EriC^^i wonder if maybe the $GOROOT / $GOPATH need to be modified somehow so it finds the files?21:05
Sven_vBJakeSays, as you probably guessed I had to go afk, and will have to again in a minute, so I hope someone else can help you debug further. they'll probably need the xrandr report next.21:09
JakeSaysSven_vB: hey no problem. i REALLY appreciate your help. i'm just going to stick with manually fixing things at boot because i have some pressing work to attend to.21:12
Sven_vBok no prob21:12
x0nwaveform: systemd-analyze doesn't catch that part of the boot. It was still in initrd  :(21:14
studenttuDoes 20.04 still support yum? i tried installing yum but itsayys unable to locate packag4e yum21:22
sarnoldstudenttu: well, "support" ... it was never supported. it was just packaged.21:24
sarnoldstudenttu: it's been removed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yum/+publishinghistory  "(From Debian) RoQA; old RH software; python2; better alternatives exist (not in debian yet); Debian bug #95129921:24
ubottuDebian bug 951299 in ftp.debian.org "RM: yum createrepo python-lzma yum-metadata-parser mock yum-utils dtc-xen deltarpm -- RoQA; old RH software; python2; better alternatives exist (not in debian yet)" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/95129921:24
waveformx0n, oh - in that case you can try bunging break=top/bottom/a-few-other-points-I-can't-recall in the kernel cmdline to get a clue as to where it's delaying - erm, let me dig out those break-points - just a mo21:24
waveformx0n, https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/tree/init?h=applied/ubuntu/devel <-- that's the "init" script in the initramfs; anywhere you see "maybe_break" in that script is a break-point you can set with break=<name> in the kernel cmdline21:26
waveformx0n, with that you could time how long it takes to reach a given break point from the start of boot to get a clue where it might be delaying - there's also hooks you can use but they've got less entry points into that script21:28
Perfec7whats the command to show files that starts with dot?21:38
leftyfbPerfec7: ls -a21:39
Perfec7leftyfb, and how to get inside of the file?21:39
leftyfbPerfec7: huh?21:39
EriC^^Perfec7: cd .file21:39
Perfec7EriC^^, ~/snap/hexchat$ cd .config21:40
Perfec7bash: cd: .config: No such file or directory21:40
studenttuCan anyone tell me how I can distinguish hard drives in ubuntu if I buy a new one for extra storage?21:40
leftyfbPerfec7: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?21:40
EriC^^Perfec7: type 'nano .config'21:40
Perfec7leftyfb, sasl external21:41
Perfec7EriC^^, thanks21:41
_Sym_any idea why I need to connect my bluetooth headset twice in order for the buttons on the headphones to function? This is Ubuntu 18.04.21:41
Perfec7EriC^^, have you tried to do sasl external?21:43
Perfec7i dont understand this21:43
EriC^^nope i haven21:44
EriC^^havent21:44
Perfec7mkdir ~/.config/hexchat/certs ; openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:4096 -keyout ~/--->.config<---/hexchat/certs/client.pem -out ~/--->.config<---/hexchat/certs/client.pem21:44
Perfec7--->.config<---21:44
Perfec7i am learning linux21:44
Perfec7the real command is:21:44
Perfec7mkdir ~/.config/hexchat/certs ; openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:4096 -keyout ~/.config/hexchat/certs/client.pem -out ~/.config/hexchat/certs/client.pem21:45
Perfec7just dont understand this .config21:45
Perfec7brb21:45
lordcirthPerfec7, if ~/.config doesn't exist, mkdir -p will create parent directories as well. But it should exist, unless you are in a chroot or something21:46
Perfec7lordcirth, ~/snap/hexchat$ ls -a21:48
Perfec7.  ..  certs  current21:48
Perfec7still not understanding21:48
studenttuCan anyone tell me how I can distinguish hard drives in ubuntu if I buy a new one for extra storage?21:48
Perfec7studenttu, look for gparted i think thats the correct word21:49
lordcirthPerfec7, looks like the snap version of hexchat keeps it's stuff in ~/snap/hexchat rather than ~/.config/hexchat. So adjust accordingly?21:49
leftyfbstudenttu: lsblk21:50
studenttuI mean like in use, I dont want everything to be under /home/, can I format it for example as /data/ or will it cause problems?21:50
lordcirthstudenttu, you can mount it anywhere you want.21:50
Perfec7lordcirth, good question. i am working on it for 2 days to do sasl external... i am so tired of trying21:50
studenttuwhen i installed ubuntu it complained abount mounting a second hard drive as /media/ so maybe i did something wrong21:50
studenttu(it just didnt allow it)21:51
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Perfec7studenttu, i am learning linux and i dont want to do something wrong there... i would like to help21:51
lordcirthstudenttu, ubuntu puts other things under /media, so that wouldn't work well21:52
studenttulordcirth i dont see any media but i will try a different mount  point21:52
lordcirthUSB drives, etc get automounted under /media21:53
studenttualright i see21:53
studenttuthanks21:53
x0nwaveform: perfect, that should get me there. Thanks!21:56
The_LoudSpeakerQuery: does focal support work on laptops with latest intel 10th gen CPUs? e.g : i5 1035G4/G7 ones?22:00
The_LoudSpeaker*support22:00
geniiThe_LoudSpeaker: It's running on my 10th gen i5 HP 17-by2008ca laptop here flawlessly so far22:03
The_LoudSpeakerNoice! I am planning to purchase a lenovo s340 once the deliveries get started here. So asked.22:04
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CountryfiedLinuxhowdy22:51
CountryfiedLinuxCan I play games on EA Origin with Wine?22:52
oerheksthat would be a question for the wine database22:55
oerheks!wine22:55
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu22:55
oerheksmaybe even POL play on linux22:55
SomethingGenericHi all! I've got a question about networking/apache. I have three different domains who's websites I want to serve outside my home network. I have my domains set up to point to my home's external IP (correctly), and have my router forwarding ports 80 (http) and port 443 (for https), and yet, outside of my home wifi, I can't access any of the three sites. So I've made the assumption that I've either22:59
SomethingGenericconfigured Ubuntu or Apache incorrectly. Can anyone help me out?22:59
CountryfiedLinuxok ok thanks23:00
shinobi__If I want to install zfs on 20.04 (not root partition) the package I want is zfsutils-linux, correct?23:01
SomethingGenericNevermind if anyone was gonna try to help me out. It's just Xfinity being difficult and calling my portforwards "threats" :/23:03
sarnoldheh23:03
sarnoldat least you got there ..23:03
SomethingGenericIf anyone out there is choosing an ISP don't pick comcast/xfinity. They've been a pain in the rear at every turn23:04
SomethingGenericAnd I don't have a good connection23:04
leftyfbSomethingGeneric: get a business account. It'll cost a little bit more money but you don't get that sort of thing from them anymore, no caps and a static ip23:05
SomethingGenericleftyb, that *sounds* good, but does it come with more bandwith for the price?? It's already too little speed for the $ as it is23:06
leftyfbSomethingGeneric: I couldn't tell you, I pay a lot of money for 1Gb and a bunch of static ip's23:07
SomethingGenericAh ok. Thanks for the tip, though!23:07
shinobi__I installed electrum on 20.04 via python. It didn't seem to install the menu item though. I cannot see it in activities. When I launch it an icon is added to the dash, but I can't pin it to favorites. How can I add it?23:34
tomtiger11shinobi__: GNOME isn't my strong point, but I'll let you know what I know in-case it's of use. The GNOME application icons only show up in the applications menu if they have a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications (for most applications)23:41
tomtiger11shinobi__: it's possible that it's only really intended to be launched via CLI, but I'd try and direct some research in that area if you're looking for it to be in the GNOME applications list :)23:42
SynfulAckI have some sort of firmware file with .fff that has a file in it that i need to edit. Is there some way i can do this through the command line? I unzipped w.e. it was, editted the file then ran `zip [orig file name] * ` and ran it through a firmware update but i think something got changed somewhere in there cause its not recognizing it.23:42
sarnoldSynfulAck: quite often firmware update processes validate checksums or verify signatures23:43
sarnoldSynfulAck: if it is validating a checksum, then you'd "just" need to compute a checksum that verifies your modifications23:43
SynfulAcksarnold, ive been told someone else has done this on windows, so im assuming the tool kit or options i used created the problem.23:43
sarnoldSynfulAck: if it is verifying a signature, you've got a lot more work to do :)23:43
sarnoldSynfulAck: I've heard that this toolkit is heplful to inspect unknown binaries https://ghidra-sre.org/23:44
SynfulAckseems like a really cool tool but excessive. all the guy needed was 7zip so this seems overkill.23:48
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robertparkerxsomeone told me to use sudo -Hsu one day and it switched to my other user23:54
robertparkerxwhat exactly does -Hsu do23:54
sarnoldrobertparkerx: -H asks sudo to set the HOME environment variable to match the target user's passwd entry23:56
sarnoldrobertparkerx: -s starts a shell23:56
sarnoldrobertparkerx: -u selects the user23:56
robertparkerxThank you very much!23:57
SamizdatSay I'm uploading video to an Internet Archive item.  Is it possible to use ffmpeg output as cURL input, thereby bypassing the need to write to my drive as an interim step?23:59

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