[00:00] <wedr_> Hibrit, The only method I know of is, you install the Ubuntu Live USB ISO from the official site, and you follow the instructions given from Canonical.
[00:00] <Hibrit> wedr_, yes me neither but really anything worked at all (including those changes i trtied to do in grub)
[00:01] <tomreyn> Hibrit: maybe a bios upgrade would help: https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-uk/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=twht5&oscode=wt64a&productcode=inspiron-15-7567-laptop&lwp=rt
[00:01] <Hibrit> wedr_, i have already tried that sir...
[00:01] <wedr_> hmmm
[00:02] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i have upgraded my bios just this morning actually
[00:02] <tomreyn> Hibrit: so which version does it show now during POST?
[00:04] <Hibrit> tomreyn, so sorry but i don't know what the 'POST' is
[00:04] <tomreyn> Hibrit: do you know how to "enter bios"?
[00:04] <Hibrit> tomreyn, but in the link that you have just gave me it says this driver up-to-date
[00:05] <Hibrit> tomreyn, yes i know how to enter bios
[00:05] <Hibrit> tomreyn,i'm just not familiar with the term 'POST'
[00:06] <tomreyn> Hibrit: that's okay. actually let's try this: boot to grub, then select the "failsafe graphics" option
[00:07] <Hibrit> tomreyn, okey i'm trying
[00:08] <tomreyn> Hibrit: POST refers to power-on-self-test, it's the first screen computers used to show in the past when powering up. it also includes the bios version usually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-on_self-test
[00:08] <tomreyn> however, nowadays most computers show just the manufacturer logo instead (by default). but you can ignore this for now.
[00:09] <plujon> Bashing-om: Thanks; worked like a charm.
[00:09] <Hibrit> tomreyn, ow okey thanks for information :)
[00:10] <Hibrit> tomreyn, the result is the same unfortunately
[00:10] <tomreyn> !bootlog | Hibrit: okay so try this
[00:10] <Hibrit> tomreyn, im stuck with a black screen and there is no response to anything
[00:11] <newuser444467899> is ubuntu have analog archlinux command pacman -Syyu?
[00:11] <Hibrit> tomreyn, okey give me a second to hard reset
[00:11] <tomreyn> sure
[00:12] <skiboy> Yeah, the FF snap doesn't keep my settings
[00:13] <Hibrit> tomreyn,brb in a minute i neet to switch this to another device
[00:14] <oerheks> skiboy, see softwarecenter > installed > snapname > settings
[00:14] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: they are quite different, maybe you want something like     apt update && apt full-upgrade
[00:14] <oerheks> * if any
[00:15] <Hibrit> tomreyn, sir if you may can you please resend that grub boot option
[00:15] <tomreyn> !bootlog | Hibrit: okay so try this
[00:16] <newuser444467899> tomreyn no , want redownload all package, and better check all package and if they corrupted then reinstall them
[00:16] <tomreyn> Hibrit: okay so try this: To get a more verbose log of the boot process, remove "quiet" and "splash" from the kernel boot parameters and add "debug systemd.log_level=info". For info on editing kernel boot parameters, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[00:16] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: debsums
[00:17] <newuser444467899> how i can use debsums?
[00:17] <tomreyn> !man | newuser444467899
[00:18] <newuser444467899> tomreyn ok
[00:18] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: you don't normally need to use this, nor to reinstall all packages. what makes you want to do so?
[00:18] <newuser444467899> tomreyn seems my system have corrupted package
[00:19] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: what makes it seem so?
[00:21] <newuser444467899> tomreyn application didnt launch
[00:21] <Hibrit> tomreyn, hey sir sorry for the interruption
[00:21] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: this could have many other reasons. have you tried to run it from a terminal?
[00:22] <tomreyn> Hibrit: you're not interrupting, but there's also no need to call me 'sir'
[00:22] <Hibrit> tomreyn, so i have added the boot option but i'm again stuck with a black screen with no responses
[00:23] <newuser444467899> tomreyn yeah i try form terminal
[00:23] <tomreyn> Hibrit: so you edited the "linux" line, adding "debug systemd.log_level=info" after removing "quiet" and "splash"? and then did what?
[00:24] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: any was there any output there in the terminal? also which application are you trying to launch exactly, and which ubuntu version are you running?
[00:24] <Hibrit> tomreyn, and i pressed "ctrl+x" to boot with the option after that a black screen...
[00:25] <tomreyn> Hibrit: hmm, that's after removing "quiet" and "splash", right?
[00:25] <Hibrit> tomreyn, but tbh i guess my computers fans are faster for sure
[00:25] <Hibrit> tomreyn, yes i am certain that i removed quiet and splash
[00:27] <tomreyn> Hibrit: okay, can you try the same once more, but also add "nomodeset nvidia-smi.modeset=0 recovery". and after pressing ctrl-x, keep an eye on the disk light, if any, to see whether it'S actively flashing.
[00:28] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i dont have a disk light but sure let me try that
[00:28] <tomreyn> or maybe it's audible whether it's accessing the disk
[00:29] <newuser444467899> tomreyn gnome-system-monitor didnt launch ubnut 18.04.4
[00:29] <tomreyn> i'm trying to understand: does it get stuck very very early or just later on, after loading a couple things
[00:29] <Hibrit> tomreyn, should i add debug systemd.log_level=info too ?
[00:29] <tomreyn> ye Hibrit
[00:29] <Hibrit> tomreyn, okey let me try
[00:29] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: hmm isn't that a snap by default?
[00:30] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: does    snap list      list gnome-system-monitor
[00:33] <Hibrit> tomreyn, the result is the same i mean stuck with a black screen and also i didn't heard anything but the noise computer fans produced
[00:35] <tomreyn> Hibrit: okay, then once more but this time just remove "quiet" and "splash" and add "dis_ucode_ldr"
[00:35] <Hibrit> tomreyn, let me try fast
[00:37] <Hibrit> tomreyn, it is same again :(
[00:38] <tomreyn> Hibrit: sorry. :-/ did you make any changes in bios at some point? maybe it's a good time to reset it to defaults?
[00:39] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i did that too actually i have reset that to factory defaults ...
[00:40] <tomreyn> Hibrit: well, that's all i could think of for now, maybe someone else has another suggestion. something you can still try is to boot the server installer instead, or to try a different ubuntu release and upgrade from that.
[00:40] <Hibrit> tomreyn, at this point i really started to think that is a hardware issue but than why an windows 10 live usb works just fine i really cant explain
[00:41] <tomreyn> Hibrit: did oyu have linux running on it before
[00:41] <tomreyn> ?
[00:41] <Hibrit> tomreyn, thank you for your time really
[00:42] <newuser444467899> tomreyn gnome-system-monitor
[00:42] <newuser444467899> Gtk-Message: 04:41:14.062: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[00:42] <newuser444467899> Gtk-Message: 04:41:14.065: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[00:42] <newuser444467899> (gnome-system-monitor:28339): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: 04:41:14.070: Settings schema 'org.gnome.gnome-system-monitor' is not installed
[00:42] <Hibrit> tomreyn, yes i actually have like 2 years ago it was linux mint 18.3 i guess
[00:45] <tomreyn> Hibrit: so you should be able to install ubuntu 18.04 and upgrade from that
[00:45] <tomreyn> !paste | newuser444467899
[00:45] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: i suspect without the gsettings schema it won't run. you're not running it as the root user by chance, are you?
[00:46] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i actually haven't tried that before i could really work O:3
[00:46] <newuser444467899> tomreyn is gnome-system-monitor is snap application by default?
[00:46] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Thought: I am not aware that all issues in 20.04 with Nvidia have been resolved - does 18.04 boot ?
[00:47] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: i think it is.
 newuser444467899: does    snap list      list gnome-system-monitor
[00:48] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i really don't know downloading the iso at the moment
[00:48] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: :D Good man that you are.
[00:49] <tomreyn> there's this https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/dell-inspiron-7567-linux-kernel-support/7033
[00:49] <newuser444467899> tomreyn i try purge system mon but i got sysmon is not installed but i saw him in my application. So i just sudo install gnome-system-monitor and after that he work fine
[00:50] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: i'm not sure i full yunderstand but i understand that this issue is solved, that's nice.
[00:50] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: FYI I too run nvidia graphics and to this time I have been unable to build the driver on 20.04.
[00:50] <Hibrit> tomreyn, yeah i have encountered with that article a couple of times but it didn't help really
[00:51] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, but this is so sad... :(  i really really switch to ubuntu so hard....
[00:52] <newuser444467899> tomreyn yeah solved
[00:52] <tomreyn> Hibrit: actually maybe there is an option to set the primary graphics card in the bios, that's another thing you could give a try.
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: release 18.04 is also Long Term Support - support until April 2023.
[00:54] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i don't know but i wrote it down to check list
[00:54] <newuser444467899> Is anybody here who use amdgpu-pro on ununtu 18.04.4 and dont have freeze?
[00:55] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i wish that version installs successfully on my device
[00:55] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: please get support for the 'pro' overlay directly from amd
[00:56] <newuser444467899> tomreyn i wrote on amd forum
[00:56] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Test and we see - if 18.04 installs we can point a finger at Nvivia/DKMS in 20.04 :P
[00:56] <tomreyn> !acpi_osi | Hibrit: this is yet another thing you can try (it seems to have helped others with this system)
[00:57] <newuser444467899> Does anyone really use proprietary drivers from AMD?
[00:58] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: no polls here, please. you can try in #ubuntu-discuss
[00:58] <newuser444467899> i need amd vce encoder on linux
[00:58] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, it almost done downloading just 2 mins left we will see soon if we can figure it out O:3
[00:59] <Bashing-om> newuser444467899: "Phoronix has done several articles that show the Radeon driver plus the MESA package actually perform BETTER than AMDGPU/PRO in almost all the cases that most people will be interested in. "
[00:59] <Hibrit> tomreyn, checking...
[01:00] <newuser444467899> i know that mesa is better but i need amd vce, vaapi is not enough for me
[01:00] <tomreyn> Hibrit: please do test 18.04, though, and report your findings, so that others may benefit from it as well
[01:01] <Hibrit> tomreyn, it actually looks just a bit confusing to me for now i ll try 18.04 first actually i am done downloading let me create live usb quick ^^
[01:07] <C0nundrum> Anyone know how i can find a wifi adapter with ap suport in ubuntu ... ?
[01:08] <C0nundrum>  I have a Netgear A6210 and spent all day swapping kernals, drivers, ubuntu version with no success x.x so hoping i can just find one that just works in AP mode
[01:08] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i am using rufus to create live usb i have 2 questions first what should be the file system ntfs or fat32 and should i write in iso image mode or dd image mode
[01:10] <tomreyn> Hibrit: i'm not really familiar with rufus. i usually use balena etcher which has the ability to verify the data written and usually just works.
[01:10] <Munsko> ISO mode
[01:10] <Munsko> (its the recomended by the program)
[01:10] <Munsko> and the format check the one that rufus suggests you
[01:11] <Hibrit> Munsko, okey thanks ^^
[01:11] <Munsko> I used it before, just need to leave these fields as they are by default if im not wrong
[01:12] <Hibrit> tomreyn, okay than if that doesn't work i'll try balena etcher
[01:13] <tomreyn> Hibrit: i'm sure it can be done with rufus with the proper settings (which i don't know, but Munsko apparently does)
[01:13] <Munsko> I installed my SO with rufus
[01:13] <Munsko> Always do it in that way and works good
[01:13] <Munsko> Thats because i dont understand multisystem XD
[01:14] <Hibrit> Munsko, thanks i just changed mbr to gpt for uefi purposes
[01:14] <Munsko> np
[01:18] <Hibrit> tomreyn, and i am back where i start... ubuntu 18.0.4.4 doesnt boot from live usb either.... gives me same black screen...
[01:19] <newuser444467899> tomreyn how i can safe delete all snap application from ubuntu and not destry my system?
[01:21] <tomreyn> Hibrit: :-/ well, i guess you can go over those options we discussed so far there again.
[01:21] <Munsko> You can acces to grub screen?
[01:21] <Hibrit> tomreyn, im on it (already tried nomodeset... same result)
[01:22] <Hibrit> Munsko, yes i can access the grub screen but when i try to boot it gives me a black screen
[01:22] <Munsko> well
[01:22] <Munsko> check if u have the option to directly install from grub
[01:23] <Munsko> Some OS have it too
[01:23] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: i don't know whether that's meant to work, but there are how-tos on this on the web
[01:23] <Munsko> newuser444467899, snap list
[01:23] <Munsko> Run that command in terminal
[01:23] <Munsko> And you will se the snaps installed
[01:23] <Hibrit> Munsko, i have install ubuntu option in grub with ubuntu 18.04.4
[01:23] <Munsko> You could try unistall them
[01:23] <Munsko> Hibrit, try go to that option
[01:24] <Hibrit> Munsko, im on it
[01:24] <Munsko> If u suceed you could delete the partitions and start again
[01:24] <Munsko> Unless you have some important info
[01:24] <Hibrit> Munsko, nope it doesnt work as same as the try ubuntu option it gives me a black screen
[01:25] <Munsko> Oh
[01:25] <Munsko> No idea of whats the problem
[01:25] <Munsko> Maybe is the uefi thing
[01:25] <Munsko> that dont recognize your usb of something like that
[01:25] <Munsko> but no idea of that topic
[01:25] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: https://www.kevin-custer.com/blog/disabling-snaps-in-ubuntu-20-04/
[01:25] <Munsko> sorry
[01:26] <Hibrit> Munsko, thanks a lot i ll try once more with mbr option
[01:26] <newuser444467899> Munsko core core18  gnome-3-28-1804  gnome-3-34-1804  gnome-calculator gnome-characters  gnome-logs  gnome-system-monitor gtk-common-themes    <--- i have those snaps installed
[01:26] <newuser444467899> is ti safe to delete them?
[01:26] <Munsko> Whats your DE'
[01:27] <Munsko> desktop enviroment
[01:27] <Munsko> or lets say better, what distro are u using
[01:27] <newuser444467899> Munsko ubunut 18.04.4HWE
[01:27] <Munsko> hmm
[01:28] <newuser444467899> tomreyn thx i will go to read it
[01:28] <Munsko> I dont know if its safe delete some of those, if im not wrong Ubuntu comes with gnome desktop
[01:28] <housecat> yes, it's safe to delete those
[01:28] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i have tried most of those options we have discussed earlier but nothing worked really i ll try one last thing Munsko suggested as not going with uefi thanks a lot for your time
[01:28] <oerheks> removing all snaps? time to hop distro.
[01:29]  * housecat shrugs
[01:29] <housecat> guess we'll see how things go. for now, i don't use chromium-browser or LXD anyway so i'm not missing much
[01:30] <oerheks> for snaps there are tons of hidden settings; softwarecenter > installed > <snapname> > settings appear
[01:31] <oerheks> webcam/mic/files and more
[01:37] <tomreyn> Hibrit: you can still look for the gpu switch in bios. but sure, you could also try switching to legacy bios booting as a last resort, this would likely work, but it's not ideal.
[01:39] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i have actually already done switching my bios to legacy and now i can boot my live usb but i didnt installed anything yet if you suggest i can try looking that gpu setting
[01:40] <tomreyn> Hibrit: i would prefer giving this a try if it would allow uefi booting.
[01:41] <Hibrit> tomreyn, okey than i am looking that setting i'll keep you updated
[01:47] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i coudnt find any option in the bios to switch my default gpu :(
[01:47] <tomreyn> Hibrit: okay, bad luck, use bios booting, i guess. this may also work with 20.04 then
[01:48] <tomreyn> note *may*
[01:48] <Hibrit> tomreyn, so i guess i ll go try install ubuntu in legacy but i dont really know what is the differance between uefi and legacy... is that a bad thing for the performance
[01:49] <tomreyn> Hibrit: no, not really. it's just that legacy bios is ... legacy. uefi allows a few features such as a graphical startup... if it works. :)
[01:50] <tomreyn> but you'll be fine with 'legacy' / CSM.
[01:50] <Hibrit> tomreyn, ummmm i guess i will pass with those features "^^
[01:51] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i ll try boot 20.04 in legacy now as soon as i create the live usb wish me luck
[01:52] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: There is a slight performance increase with UEFI in intensive use cases- larger blocks are used with UEFI - also there is not the 4 partition limit that is inherent with leagacy.
[01:54] <Sven_vB> Earlier I was looking for ways to convert SVG to PNG, especially because ImageMagick failed to do so on xenial. Meanwhile I found the perfect program for this: rsvg-convert from librsvg2-bin.
[01:54] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, thanks for the information i guess i wont need more than 4 partitions but i hope there wont be that much of a performance loss
[01:55] <Munsko> If u have windows too you will need maybe 4 or more
[01:55] <Munsko> I mean, dual boot
[01:55] <Munsko> If you will delete everything go with legacy
[01:55] <Hibrit> Munsko, nope i definitely switching from windows to ubuntu for good :)
[01:56] <Munsko> Go easy so
[01:56] <Munsko> You shouldnt have problem
[01:57] <Hibrit> Munsko, i am writing 20.04 iso to usb rn ^^ i'm so excited =D
[01:58] <Munsko> As a recomendation, i would suggest you save the live usb
[01:58] <Munsko> You never know when u need format
[01:58] <Munsko> :)
[01:59] <Hibrit> Munsko, thanks for advice ^^ i always have a backup plan with those kind of things i already have a windows 10 live usb ready to go just in case :)
[02:02] <Hibrit> OMG I guess i just got it work uefi i dont know how ........ D: D: =$ =$  i .... i... did it with mbr and booted in uefi section i am looking at 20.04 s installer screen right now ...
[02:04] <tomreyn> Hibrit: "did it with mbr and booted in uefi section"? i'm not sure what this means. it'd be good to find out how exactly you booted now. you can run a terminal using ctrl-alt-t and type     echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[02:05] <Hibrit> tomreyn, right away im trying
[02:08] <Hibrit> tomreyn, it gives me this system booted via UEFI :D
[02:09] <C0nundrum> Anyone have any experience with wifi adapters that work in AP mode
[02:09] <newuser444467899> tomreyn How i can speed up my ubuntu 18.04.4?
[02:09] <tomreyn> Hibrit: so what had yo changed in bios, if you can still tell?
[02:10] <tomreyn> newuser444467899: install it on faster hardware
[02:10] <Hibrit> tomreyn, now the question is do i check the install third pary software it contains something about graphics and it got me wondering
[02:10] <Munsko> newuser444467899, how many ram you have?
[02:10] <Munsko> Hibrit, yes
[02:10] <Munsko> Allow that thing
[02:10] <newuser444467899> sry i dont have money for new pc, i have 8GB ram
[02:11] <Munsko> That allows you to install non free drivers for example
[02:11] <Munsko> newuser444467899, thats more than enough for ubuntu i think
[02:11] <Munsko> Maybe you have a problem with drivers of something
[02:11] <newuser444467899> non free dirves already included when you install ubuntu isnt it?
[02:11] <Munsko> or something*
[02:12] <Munsko> If you cancel that option you will not be able to adquise some of them automatically i think
[02:12] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i have canged in bios my secure boot option i turned it off but i guess it wasnt the actual change point i guess the big change is i used mbr table (for legacy and efi) in rufus when i creating live usb
[02:12] <Hibrit> Munsko, okey i checked it
[02:12] <newuser444467899> in debian you need install firmware for amd video and fro amd cpu
[02:13] <tomreyn> Hibrit: hmm, actually it may have been secure boot all along, i don't know why i didn't think of that. at least it could be that (though normally systems would still boot fine).
[02:14] <tomreyn> so your system is "special" ;)
[02:14] <Hibrit> tomreyn, but let me say that i tried that before with secoreboot of it wasnt working either
[02:14] <newuser444467899> how i can turn off all animation on ubuntu, disable compositor and etc?
[02:14] <tomreyn> Hibrit: i see. hmm, okay then i don't know either.
[02:14] <Hibrit> tomreyn, yes it is special now with all this work :D
[02:14] <newuser444467899> i already set governor to performance and defragment my root partition
[02:15] <Munsko> You see the animations very slowly?
[02:16] <newuser444467899> i need fast response system, in debian i use xfce
[02:16] <Hibrit> tomreyn, but now my installer got stuck i guess i am looking cycling pointer for 5 minutes :(  i can move it around but ubuntu doesnt seem to responding me at all...
[02:16] <Munsko> You could try Lubuntu or Kubuntu, they are lightweight ubuntu flavors
[02:17] <Munsko> Lubuntu have LXQT and Kubuntu KDE Plasma
[02:17] <Hibrit> tomreyn, clock even is stuck it is showing me like 5 mins ago
[02:17] <Bashing-om> newuser444467899: "Fast" on limited harware is a minimal install, then only add what you truely need.
[02:18] <newuser444467899> lubuntu and kde and xubuntu not siutable for me
[02:18] <Munsko> why?
[02:18] <newuser444467899> i have bugg with my mose
[02:18] <Munsko> Afterwards, i think that the problem isnt Ubuntu
[02:18] <tomreyn> Hibrit: so it froze
[02:18] <Munsko> You have 8gb of ram, and maybe a good processor
[02:18] <Hibrit> tomreyn, yes it froze unfortunutely
[02:18] <Munsko> The problem is in sofware, some driver
[02:19] <tomreyn> Hibrit: but on windows it did not freeze?
[02:19] <Hibrit> tomreyn, i ll try a hard reset after try the install one more time tho
[02:19] <newuser444467899> in debian xfce i disabel all animation and turn off compisitor vsync
[02:19] <Bashing-om> Munsko: Lower overhaed with the mininmal - I do run real old hardware and the difference between a standard install and minimal is significant.
[02:19] <Hibrit> tomreyn, nope windows installation works just fine
[02:19] <newuser444467899> how i can do it on ubuntu
[02:20] <Munsko> Bashing-om Didnt know that, good tip
[02:20] <newuser444467899> and this window shade is killing me
[02:21] <Munsko> If you cant use the oter flavours you could install a new DE on your Ubuntu
[02:21] <Munsko> Like those that Lubuntu,Kubuntu or Xubuntu have
[02:21] <tomreyn> Hibrit: it's getting too late for me now but since you are able to at least boot the system now this means you can also get a kernel log and share it here. doing so may help folks here to suggest workarounds for stabilizing the system during the installation.
[02:22] <newuser444467899> i think this cause problem for my mose
[02:22] <Munsko> newuser444467899, the DE?
[02:22] <Munsko> Its just a graphical thing, i think
[02:22] <Hibrit> tomreyn, before you go if you can mention how could i get the kernel log it would be really apperaciated
[02:22] <newuser444467899> Munsko yeah
[02:22] <tomreyn> Hibrit: i.e., from the installer, running in a terminal:    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:22] <Munsko> You will not delete driver or those things
[02:23] <Hibrit> tomreyn, thank you so so much for everything
[02:24] <tomreyn> Hibrit: actually this is the full system log for the current boot. if you want just the kernel it's:   dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:24] <tomreyn> Hibrit: you're welcome, good luck.
[02:24] <Hibrit> tomreyn, Thanks :)
[02:26] <newuser444467899> what i need to install gnome-tweaks or gnome-tweak-tool?
[02:30] <Hibrit> Munsko, hey i have managed to boot the live usb but now i have another issue which is installer is stucking at the point that i hit next after checking third party software and also it is stuck when i hit try ubuntu before installation what can it be..
[02:31] <Munsko> Have you connected to internet before do that installation in the pc?
[02:31] <Munsko> Because i think that the 3rd party option will try to download the drivers that dont have
[02:31] <Hibrit> Munsko, yes i have connected
[02:31] <Munsko> After that i dont have idea why, try wait some minutes
[02:33] <Hibrit> Munsko, okey ill try waiting but the part when it froze when i hit try ubuntu got me a little worried
[02:33] <Munsko> Maybe is loading something, so try wait
[02:34] <Hibrit> Munsko, okey thanks
[02:51] <Munsko> Hibrit, worked?
[02:53] <Hibrit> Munsko, nope it didnt worked but i'm trying something else now i have managed to start try ubuntu with nomodeset and now i have erased my entire ssd for the sake of the installation now i will try to install again
[02:54] <Munsko> Ok, you could try to remake the ISO
[02:54] <Munsko> the live cd
[02:55] <Munsko> Maybe something went wrong there, but remember put the same options(if not you will not be able to bootit as before)
[02:55] <Hibrit> Munsko, yesssss i have managed to step forward with erasing the entire ssd i mean windows
[02:55] <Hibrit> Munsko, now i will select erase and install ubuntu without any options
[02:55] <Munsko> Well
[02:56] <Munsko> wait
[02:56] <Munsko> For convenience you could create partitions
[02:56] <Hibrit> Munsko, okey i stopped
[02:56] <Munsko> I mean, the "/" , the "/home"
[02:56] <Munsko> And make the /swap partition(dont know if this one is needed btw, i made it always)
[02:56] <Hibrit> Munsko, well if you can guide me i culd try
[02:57] <Hibrit> *could*
[02:57] <Munsko> You could find how make them properly, im not really sure of the options
[02:57] <Munsko> Because i use a tutorial to do them always
[02:57] <Munsko> But is in spanish
[02:57] <Munsko> :D
[02:57] <Hibrit> Munsko, okey :D  so ill look for a tutorial
[02:58] <Munsko> You will find it very easy
[02:58] <Munsko> Isnt a hard thing, but its very important to know the options
[03:01] <Hibrit> Munsko, okey i find a tutorial and did the partitioning with just a swap and root directory and now im installing
[03:05] <Hibrit> Munsko, installation is complete but im not sure if i have to use nomodeset again and how actually. now i am restarting the system as usual
[03:06] <Munsko> Try restart withut the usb putted
[03:06] <Munsko> and see whats happen
[03:06] <Hibrit> Munsko, trying rn
[03:10] <Hibrit> Munsko, well now im stuck with anther black screen with some information about nuveau says failed to idle channel 2
[03:10] <Hibrit> *another*
[03:10] <Munsko> Try to copy what it says
[03:11] <Munsko> I dont have idea about that, but you could try to search it here: https://askubuntu.com/
[03:11] <Munsko> Or just in google
[03:11] <Munsko> But save the info abou the error
[03:12] <Munsko> I think that noveau is something related to graphics
[03:13] <Munsko> Yes
[03:13] <Munsko> Its the free sofware alternative to Nvidia drivers if im not wrong
[03:13] <Hibrit> Munsko, well the screen is gone after a couple of minutes and i get a login screen now when i try to log in i got a purple screen with no response
[03:14] <Hibrit> Munsko, i guess i should use nomodeset to avoid that untill i get a proper driver but i dont know how to use nomodeset without a grub
[03:14] <Munsko> I found this : "https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4etbsw/nouveau_error_during_installation_of_ubuntu_gnome/"
[03:15] <Munsko> Maybe it isnt the same problem that you
[03:15] <Munsko> You could isable the noveau
[03:15] <Munsko> disable*
[03:16] <Munsko> With the command that the author added in one coment
[03:16] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Lurking over yall's shoulder. At the login screen try to activate a terminal - ctl+alt+F2; can you log into the system here with your username and password ( no response to the screen when password is entered)? If so we can do some poking about.
[03:16] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i am waiting ubuntu to boot now as soon as it boot i ll try that
[03:18] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Should boot in a matter of seconds, else there is a problem.
[03:19] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, it is stuck in a black screen now but the last time it skipped this section in about 3 4 mins
[03:19] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, oww okey now i get a login screen
[03:20] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, okey when i press ctrl+alt+f2 i get a screen with god knows what says just a bunch of information
[03:21] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Laptop with dual graphics chips ?
[03:21] <Hibrit> and a blinking cursor but i cant write anything
[03:21] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, yes
[03:21] <Biessie> so i did i did do-release-upgrade from 19.10 and im having some weird issues. i cant load up sshd etc how can i run a check or figure this thing out?
[03:22] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i feel like i could workaround this with a nomodeset boot option but it boots without a grub screen showing so i dont know how to
[03:22] <Munsko> Try enter in safemode
[03:22] <Munsko> I mean safe graphic mode
[03:23] <Munsko> Its a option in grub i think
[03:23] <Munsko> Have to go now, hope you get solution
[03:27] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: External keyboard ? No keyboard in terminal makes me consider what bios is passing to the operating system. Then, is there settings in bios for USB settings ?
[03:29] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, nope it is internal but problem is not the keyboard working the problem is the terminal screen
[03:30] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i will try another method now i am wondering if i could get a workaround
[03:31] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, with a live usb i ll go try ubuntu and from there i will try to edit installed ubuntu's files and add nomodeset grub option
[03:31] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: You are making progress, now untill we can get a working terminal there is not much that can be done :(
[03:32] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, if i can wor it around can you help me install proper drivers please :)
[03:33] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Yeah -- i know somewhat about Nvidia drivers. We must have a terminal for my procedure.
[03:34] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, okey working on it ^^
[03:37] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, okkeeeyyy i have worked it around and opened ubuntu desktop ^^ now i have a terminal access
[03:39] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, now what do we do to install proper drivers
[03:40] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Great - in termianl do ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' the result is a URL back in terminl, Pass that link back here - will have the contents of that log file,
[03:42] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, https://termbin.com/iael
[03:42] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: reading.
[03:44] <anonyous28174> hello
[03:44] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Ouch ! "Error: can't access /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.0/driver". Is the nvidia card turned off in the firmware (bios ?) Secure boot disabled ?
[03:45] <anonyous28174> So, i had three partitions on my laptop one for kali linux, one for ubuntu, and one for windows. I deleted the kali linux and the ubunut, and accidently deleted the system reserve partition for windows.
[03:45] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, yes i have disabled secure boot but it could be due to my nomodeset boot command which got me access to desktop and also terminal
[03:46] <anonyous28174> Now, all i get is Error: no such partition. Entering rescue mode when I turn on my computer.
[03:46] <anonyous28174> I cannot boot from a usb stick for some reason i think grub is blocking it or does not support booting from a usb to install an operating system
[03:47] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Good thought ! Yeah that is a possibility.
[03:48] <anonyous28174> Anyone good with grub rescue?
[03:48] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i guess that nouveau thing is what causing me problems
[03:50] <anonyous28174> anyone able to help me please?
[03:51] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: We can sure try and install the proprietary driver. In small steps: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' runs all clean ?
[03:52] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i have runned commands now waiting
[03:53] <anonyous28174> :(
[03:54] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, yes both command executed properly without any errors
[03:54] <Hibrit> *commands*
[03:54] <Bashing-om> !patience | anonyous28174
[03:55] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Terminal command ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . where now did you set nomodeset ? As we need to revert that maybe.
[03:56] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i can revert that easily but should i do that after or before i run ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall '
[03:58] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Well, ideally would be great if you can boot the system without nomodeset.
[03:59] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, yes of course all in all with that in place i could not be able to use my nvidia gpu
[03:59] <anonyous28174> Okay, new question. So, I am stuck at grub recovery. I have no way to recover a partition because I cannot find one. Is there are way to find a partition on a flash drive and recover my computer from the partition on a flash drive?
[04:00] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: IF you can boot to the login screen without the nomoseset parameter - that wil suffice for our case.
[04:01] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i have disabled nomodeset and waiting for ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' command to finish we will see in a min i guess
[04:01] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: You can, if and only if your boot firmware supports reading from USB and you have a USB drive with the same filesystem as your normally installed system, and containing a /boot/grub/ from an install of grub that's fairly close to the same version as you had installed for your system.
[04:02] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: But if your boot firmware supported reading from USB, it would also probably support booting from it.
[04:02] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, after ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall '  command finishes should i do anything at all ?
[04:02] <Hibrit> i mean like selecting new driver or so
[04:03] <anonyous28174> Hello, Jordan. Is there a way to check that? I mean when i type ls with the usb plugged in It detects it ?
[04:03] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: That's exactly it. Run "ls" and see if your USB drive is listed.
[04:03] <anonyous28174> another option would be to disable grub? Idk, if you can do that from grub rescue?
[04:04] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Nope, if the command completed with no errors - *and* nomedeset is removed - reboot the machine to see the effect, We hope we have a normal boot :D
[04:04] <anonyous28174> because right now when i boot my computer with a flash drive it will not boot to a flash drive.
[04:04] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: Is this a BIOS based or UEFI based machine?
[04:04] <anonyous28174> bios
[04:04] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, okey than wish me luck i'm rebooting
[04:05] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: No luck here ---- All skill :P
[04:05] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, heeyyy i guess it worked just fine im looking at my desktop :D
[04:06] <anonyous28174> what i originally tried to do jordan was ls into each partition.
[04:06] <anonyous28174> says files system is unknown
[04:06] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Well - Ain't that nice :P
[04:07] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, how can we check if everything works with ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' this command again ?
[04:07] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Would ^^ be nice to know - sure !
[04:07] <anonyous28174> then i tried set boot=(hd0,msdos1)   set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)   insmod normal   normal
[04:07] <anonyous28174> and it failed
[04:08] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, https://termbin.com/uzdj
[04:08] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: That's because your rescue environment only has filesystem support for one filesystem, the one that was used with your root (or boot) partition.
[04:08] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: Most likely ext4. But you don't have any ext4 partitions anymore, and the ext4 driver can't read from ntfs.
[04:08] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, i ain't see any errors there =D =D =D =D =D  i guess it finally worked ...
[04:09] <anonyous28174> So, how do i get around this to get something on my computer unbuntu, windows?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: Do you have another machine that you can use to prepare a USB drive with an ext4 filesystem on it?
[04:10] <anonyous28174> yes, the one I am using currently
[04:10] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Well - "Is nvidia kernel module available? no" deserves investigation. what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[04:11] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: Does it use the same version of Ubuntu installed?
[04:11] <anonyous28174> no
[04:12] <anonyous28174> this is a windows machine
[04:12] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: What version of Ubuntu did the affected machine have?
[04:13] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, well it showed its usage information
[04:13] <anonyous28174> i don't remember
[04:13] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, owowowow i forgat to type display sorry "^^
[04:14] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: That's pretty important for this.
[04:14] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: termbin that output - I would be interested in what it relates.
[04:14] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, https://termbin.com/ab7c
[04:15] <anonyous28174> can't it rescue from a newer version of ubuntu?
[04:15] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: No, there will be a symbol mismatch when trying to link to newer modules.
[04:16] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Happy happy " configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0 - configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 ". what now from ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[04:16] <anonyous28174> is there a way to disable grub rescue?
[04:16] <anonyous28174> or even knock everything out of the computer?
[04:16] <anonyous28174> because i cannot get it to boot to a usb at all.
[04:17] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: You need some bootloader to do something. "disabling" the only thing in your MBR doesn't really make sense.
[04:17] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: Pop the hard drive into your other desktop?
[04:17] <anonyous28174> it is a laptop
[04:18] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, https://termbin.com/cy2a
[04:19] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: Looks great to me --- happy ubuntu trails to you :D
[04:20] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, thanks a lot for the help :)
[04:20] <anonyous28174> jordan this version of ubuntu that was on my laptop was about 4 years old
[04:20] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[04:20] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: One last - for my peace of mind ' cat /proc/cmdline ' .
[04:21] <anonyous28174> maybe even 6 years old
[04:21] <anonyous28174> that could be it
[04:22] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, https://termbin.com/7hg50
[04:22] <hecresper2171> Hi. Hope everyone is doing well, mentally and physically.
[04:22] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic focal
[04:23] <anonyous28174> i am making a windows 10 bootable media going to see it i can install over everything
[04:23] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: All smiles here - I expect you are good to go :D
[04:24] <anonyous28174> but if 12.04 would be it what would i need to do ?
[04:24] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, it really looks nice thank you for everything O:3
[04:24] <Bashing-om> Hibrit: One for all and all for one - ubuntu;  some day you too will pass this along.
[04:24] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: Download isos for Ubuntu 14.04, 16.04, 18.04, and 20.04. Mount each in turn and copy their /boot/grub/ directories onto the USB drive. You want to end up with a USB drive that has a structure like "14_04/grub/" "16_04/grub/" "18_04/grub/". Then you'll boot, and in turn try setting "prefix=(hd1,msdos1)/14_04/grub/" then running "insmod normal". If it works, run "normal", if it gives errors
[04:24] <hecresper2171> Yesterday I noticed that when I RDP into my Ubuntu computer, the gnome desktop looks like Fedora's gnome as far as the taskbar goes.  But when I'm in front of the computer, it looks Ubuntu normal.
[04:25] <Jordan_U> about symbols then set prefix to the grub directory from the next version of Ubuntu until it works.
[04:25] <anonyous28174> so, let me repeat it back to you to see if i understand
[04:26] <Hibrit> Bashing-om, thats why i am trying to leave windows behind... thanks to all of this nice community O:3
[04:26] <anonyous28174> make a bootable usb stick with each version of ubuntu on it. then ls each one to see if it shows that there is something there. If it detects that there is one there. Run the commands that i previously mention that i tried?
[04:27] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: You don't need all of each version of Ubuntu on it, literally just the contents of /boot/grub/ from each distro's iso.
[04:28] <anonyous28174> okay, how do i do that?
[04:28] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: First, before we get too ahead of ourselves, do you have a USB drive with an ext4 filesystem so that we can check that grub can even read files from it? If not, then it's not worth doing the rest of the work.
[04:29] <anonyous28174> yes, i have three flash drives
[04:29] <anonyous28174> this one has ntfs
[04:30] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: Make sure one has an ext4 filesystem and at least a few files and try using "ls" to list them from the grub rescue shell.
[04:31] <hecresper2171> ok. rejoined but with hexchat.  pidgin didn't feel right.
[04:32] <hecresper2171> So, why when remoting into Ubuntu the desktop looks different from when sitting in front of the computer?
[04:32] <Jordan_U> hecresper2171: How did you setup RDP? It sounds like maybe part of gnome-session isn't running properly and so your theme settings aren't taking affect.
[04:33] <pi0> anyone here know how to apply a kernel patch
[04:33] <vadique> hi
[04:33] <hecresper2171> While remote, the desktop looks like vanilla gnome.
[04:33] <anonyous28174> is there a way to change the files system on flash drive to ext4?
[04:33] <hecresper2171> Jordan_U, that makes sense
[04:33] <vadique> I updated Ubuntu to 20.04 and now it loses any wifi connection (it doesn't see them at all) when my laptop sleeps
[04:33] <hecresper2171> Jordan_U, its probably using some default settings for gnome.
[04:34] <vadique> is there any way to relaunch just wifi thingy but not to reboot the whole system?
[04:34] <hecresper2171> Jordan_U, I connect to it via RDP after installing xrdp
[04:34] <anonyous28174> what was the file system that i needed jordan?
[04:35] <mr_lou> Slight problem....  I was adding to /etc/default/grub in order to make my Ubuntu automatically reboot after a crash, following this. https://askubuntu.com/questions/409337/how-do-i-set-my-computer-to-restart-on-crash
[04:35] <Jordan_U> anonyous28174: ext4. Probably the easiest thing to do is to take one USB drive, make it into an Ubuntu 20.04 LiveUSB, then boot that LiveUSB and use it to prepare another USB drive with an ext4 partition, by using GParted from the first LiveUSB.
[04:36] <mr_lou> But after adding "panic=10 oops=panic" and calling sudo update-grub and rebooting, it asks for password at login now. I had disabled that before. Trying to login doesn't work. It rejects my password. I know it's the right one because I was just using it a lot for setting up grub.
[04:38] <Jordan_U> mr_lou: What happens when you use ctrl+alt+F2 to log in at a text tty?
[04:40] <mr_lou> Jordan_U, That works.
[04:46] <anonyous28174> jordan?
[04:51] <davido_> Has anyone here experienced the Authentication Error when installing or refreshing snaps under 20.04?
[04:56] <Jordan_U> mr_lou: Are you sure that it's rejecting your password in the graphical login, rather than logging you in and immediately crashing when trying to start the session, which brings you back to the login screen?
[04:56] <pi0> i need to apply a kernel patch
[05:01] <mr_lou> Jordan_U, Yea, it's telling me it couldn't log in. But after logging in in tty and rebooting from there, it logs in automatically again. Dunno what happened there.
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> pi0: whats this patch about and bug ID please?
[05:38] <pi0> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199811
[05:38] <pi0> 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
[05:40] <pi0> i need to find the patch
[05:40] <pi0> 5.4.0-29-generic
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> pi0: did you file this bug upstream? or is there also an ubuntu bug ID about this?
[05:43] <pi0> that is a good question, how do i locate bug upstream i just heard of this page today
[05:43] <pi0> sorry new to linux
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> pi0: to handle bugs, i would advice to work systematic and find or file the ubuntu bug for your system and affect yourself
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> pi0: after the existing ubuntu is created or found, you and the developers can search to investigate more, and perhaps see indeed if its being worked on upstream
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> pi0: are you on the system right now that has this bug?
[05:47] <pi0> i am
[05:47] <pi0> i mean its pretty exciting actually to learn all this
[05:47] <pi0> i compiled my first app yesterday
[05:48] <pi0> took a long time because it kept failing and after install all these apt packages
[05:48] <pi0> finaly 100%
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> pi0: do you have a launchpad account?
[05:49] <pi0> i dont but i can create one
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> please do, if you want to file a bug
[05:50] <pi0> i believe there already is a bug
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> pi0: doesnt matter, even if there exists one, its adviced to affect yourself
[05:52] <pi0> are there specific commands with info to submit?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> pi0: create your launchpad account, and then use ubuntu-bug packagename from terminal
[05:53] <pi0> one sec
[05:53] <pi0> launchpad.net righ
[05:53] <pi0> t
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> correct
[05:55] <azi`> I just started ubuntu & nethogs, and I immedatelly see many connections made from unknown processes to unknown ports, see https://imgur.com/a/KwC6eXm
[05:55] <azi`> what could be making this?
[05:55] <azi`> here is a higher res SS https://i.imgur.com/VZbe7sF.png
[05:57] <pi0> all set logged in
[05:57] <pi0> oh my packagename?
[05:57] <pi0> of the actual patch
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> pi0: ok, lets file it against the kernel, ubuntu-bug linux
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> pi0: after that, apport will jump open and you send the bug, add a title of your bug + description of what happens
[05:59] <max12345> hello, I have a problem with my dns stuff, I think. /etc/resolveconf shows some 127.0.0.53 which I think is my router. Yesterday I used the network connection GUI to add an additional dns server, and that seemed to work, but now it doesn't. Any advice? Thanks!
[06:00] <pi0> ubuntu-bug (name of bug) or linux
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> pi0: no always bug against a packagename, in your case linux (the kernel)
[06:01] <pi0> ah ok
[06:01] <pi0> the problem cannot be reported, this report is about a package that is not installed
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> pi0: what command did you type?
[06:02] <pi0> ubuntu-bug linux
[06:02] <pi0> i mean kernel
[06:02] <pi0> ubuntu-bug kernel
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> no
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-bug linux
[06:04] <pi0> did it
[06:06] <pi0> https://imgur.com/a/C5xBTBW
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> pi0: send
[06:07] <pi0> were can i explain the error is bluetooth related
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> pi0: after sending bug, your browser will jump open to the bug
[06:09] <pi0> ah nice i see it
[06:09] <pi0> do i type hciconfig -a
[06:09] <pi0> to get the error message
[06:13] <pi0> i see that window lotuspsychje
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> pi0: add a title + description
[06:14] <pi0> along with uname -a, hciconfig -a error
[06:14] <pi0> all commands that give the error?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> pi0: apport will collect your kernel version already, you can explain whats happening into the description, with relevant errors yes
[06:16] <pi0> this is great!
[06:16] <pi0> thank you so much
[06:16] <pi0> was this in a ubuntu book? or any recomended guide for learning proper trouble shooting techniques?
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> pi0: whats your bug ID plz?
[06:23] <pi0> working out the details
[06:23] <pi0> on sec
[06:23] <pi0> under the package i should type kernel?
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> pi0: do you even read what i say?
[06:24] <pi0> i did
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> pi0: <lotuspsychje> pi0: apport will collect your kernel version already
[06:24] <pi0> sorry i mean for this question, In what package did you find this bug?
[06:24] <pi0> i would assume leave it as linux
[06:25] <pi0> since i do not know which actual package that would be
[06:25] <pi0> sorry still learning all this
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> pi0: ok tnx to file bug #1879124
[06:32] <pi0> yes
[06:35] <pi0> lotuspsychje: wow that report is really invovled
[06:37] <pi0> what was really quick finding the bug number are you reviewing what i submitted?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> pi0: we have a channel where new ubuntu bugs are filed
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> pi0: is your BT integrated or a dongle?
[06:39] <pi0> dongle, also what is the name of the channel
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> pi0: #ubuntu-bugs-announce
[06:39] <pi0> https://www.ebay.com/i/202829855881?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=202829855881&targetid=883484275562&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9031062&poi=&campaignid=9343999134&mkgroupid=101452701304&rlsatarget=pla-883484275562&abcId=1139336&merchantid=118934776&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn6eC8aS66QIVMgnnCh11tQFNEAQYASABEgJ-QfD_BwE
[06:41] <pi0> that is the actual device
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> pi0: try to change your bugs description a bit better, and explain whats happening exactly as a story
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> pi0: your dmesg logs shows your bios is from 2012, maybe its time to see if there are updates on the asus website
[06:44] <pi0> yep this is a handed down laptop, i changed the hd
[06:44] <pi0> can you update firmware via linux
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> !biosupdate | pi0
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> pi0: depends on the brands, model, age of the device
[06:47] <pi0> thank you i will check it out
[06:51] <abhi_> hello
[06:53] <mr_lou> Any suggestions on how to make Ubuntu automatically reboot when it freezes? I've tried editing /etc/sysctl.conf adding kernel.panic=10 and edited /etc/default/grub/ adding "panic=10 oops=panic" according to https://askubuntu.com/questions/409337/how-do-i-set-my-computer-to-restart-on-crash
[06:54] <mr_lou> But no reboot happens when it freezes.
[06:54] <mr_lou> (And yes I did do sudo update-grub) ;-)
[06:54] <mr_lou> Any other ways of automatically rebooting the system when it freezes?
[06:55] <OERIAS> hey, is there a channel for the budgie desktop environment?
[07:04] <pi0> lotuspsychje: are you there?
[07:11] <abhi_> hi
[07:12] <abhi_> I am new to ubuntu.Have tried 18.04 and now 20.04 but the brightness control is not working
[07:12] <abhi_> using amd rysen 5 2400g
[07:12] <mbuf> fakeroot debian/rules binary gives "II: Checking modules for generic...previous or current modules file missing!" - How should this be fixed?
[07:18] <abhi_> Have been using ubuntu 20.04. But not be able to control the brightness. Using AMD ryzen 5 2400g with integrated vega 11 graphics
[07:24] <guiverc> OERIAS, #ubuntu-budgie if you're talking about Ubuntu Budgie (& Budgie Desktop); do a channel search if desktop specific
[07:33] <clarkk> I asked lots of times here, and haven't received much of a response so far.  Please could someone tell me whether the notifications in the notification panel of Ubuntu 18.04 look like the one shown in the screenshot - truncated and, pretty much, useless?  They are not fit for purpose. Doesn't it bother anyone?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/eulcao73yuqitox/Menu_471.png?dl=0   Is this is how it's _supposed_ to be? Is there any way to see the full message,
[07:33] <clarkk> via some other package or via the terminal? Btw, my screen resolution is 1920x1080
[07:44] <juanonymous> good day i am getting this error when im trying to update
[07:44] <juanonymous> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gWUoNoWW/
[07:47] <juanonymous> can you help me to correct this, so that i can successfully update ubuntu. im currently running the latest version.
[07:50] <guiverc> juanonymous, had you asked that on askubu?
[07:51] <juanonymous> nope, what or who is askubu?
[07:52] <guiverc> juanonymous, i gave my thoughts on a askubuntu.com question also on ph.archive.ubuntu.com ; I can't find the question as I'd offer same advice
[07:52] <pi0> which server is jabber on
[07:52] <pi0> or provider
[07:53] <guiverc> juanonymous, I'd switch to archive.ubuntu.com (drop the ph.) as https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors an shows issues with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.pregi.net-archive ..
[07:54] <guiverc> it appears to be functional for precise & tursty (ESM), but not (standard) support releases for some reason
[07:58] <juanonymous> how do i do that guiverc?
[08:00] <guiverc> juanonymous, if using a desktop you can maybe follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu (first picture shows tab where you can select new mirror), if using server (or my preference) just etc /etc/apt/sources.list directly
[08:01] <juanonymous> thank you for you answer. ill do that then
[08:01] <guiverc> that link contains detailed info for manually editing too (see Managing Repositories from the Command Line)
[08:02] <guiverc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine  (but link was in prior link)
[08:06] <OERIAS> guiverc, thank you
[08:08] <makara> hi. I can't login after suspend. It hangs after pressing enter with correct password. I recently did distrib upgrade to 20.04
[08:11] <makara> the only weirdness is that I added some logic to /etc/rc.local to disable acpi wakeup from USB
[08:11] <echoSMILE> Hi. I'm using hibernation (with luks) eveything works fine. My doubt is, I will start using an external hard drive that will be always connected to the system. How do I set the new drive to be active from boot and everything to not screw the hibernation booting ?
[08:11] <makara> when is rc.local invoked?
[08:18] <ducasse> makara: rc.local is not present by default in 20.04, not sure if it is sourced if you create it
[08:26] <makara> ducasse: maybe I did. It had this before I edited it recently `rfkill block bluetooth`
[08:28] <makara> basically I need to run a simple command at startup `echo "XHC" > /proc/acpi/wakeup` (in an if statement to check)
[08:28] <clarkk> PLEASE would someone, ANYONE, who is running Ubuntu 18.04, tell me whether your notification panel looks like this, with the notifications truncated so there's no way to see the full message?
[08:28] <clarkk> https://www.dropbox.com/s/eulcao73yuqitox/Menu_471.png?dl=0
[08:28] <makara> i can't use .zshrc or .profile because not root
[08:30] <makara> and i haven't figured out how to do that with systemd
[08:43] <ducasse> makara: you could create a crontab job that runs at the timespec @reboot
[08:48] <makara> ducasse: that doesn't sound very mainstream. I'll give it a go
[08:49] <makara> so are you saying rc.local isn't executed by systemd?
[08:50] <ducasse> i'm not sure if it is in 20.04, you'll need to test
[08:52] <makara> ducasse: how would I see the output though?
[08:52] <ducasse> the crontab approach is more hacky than creating a systemd service, but it's quick and works
[08:52] <ducasse> echo something to a file, for instance
[08:54] <makara> then i'll only know when it works. Every time I change the script it could mess it up and i'd only know next time I reboot
[08:54] <makara> i want to see all the output for startup scripts everywhere
[08:54] <ducasse> you can only see what is logged
[08:55] <makara> thats annoying
[08:57] <makara> in a docker container all stdout is captured and available. Its so convenient
[09:04] <frad> I want to sudo tune2fs -m 0.5 /dev/sda1 being currently in /dev/sda1. Am I doing it right?
[09:17] <frad> the filesystem is luks encrypted. Can a luks filesystem be tune2fs'ed?
[09:17] <ducasse> frad: if it's an ext filesystem i should think so
[09:18] <frad> do yo know how I should edit the command? sudo tune2fs -m 0.5 /dev/sda1
[09:19] <frad> should I follow this? https://serverfault.com/questions/394902/resizing-a-luks-encrypted-volume and yes, it is ext4
[09:20] <emx> I just updated from 19.04 to 19.10. I can't connect to a Wifi access-point that was accessible by 19.04.
[09:21] <emx> Interestingly 19.10 can connect to my phone hotspot. Where shall I start debugging.
[09:24] <zeorin1> Hi all, I've just updated from 19.04 and I can no longer boot. I just get a black screen. If I try a recovery option in Grub. I see "Loading initial ramdisk..." and no further activity
[09:24] <zeorin1> I have an HP Spectre x360 13-ae000ni, it has an Intel i7-8550U processor.
[09:25] <zeorin1> Secureboot is disabled in the BIOS. I've tried the dis_ucode_ldr boot flag already
[09:25] <zeorin1> I've tried the mitigations=off boot flag also
[09:25] <zeorin1> These have not helped
[09:26] <zeorin1> I have several kernels listed in my Grub: 5.3.0-53-generic, 5.0.0
[09:27] <zeorin1> I have several kernels listed in my Grub: 5.3.0-53-generic, 5.0.0-38-generic, 5.0.0-37-generic, and 4.18.11-041811-generic, none of which will let me boot
[09:28] <zeorin1> I have tried booting with the TPM module set to "hidden" in the BIOS, which has also not helped.
[09:35] <fl0_id> hey, when compiling autoconf from source - when make check fails, but some failures are expected - anybody know where to check which failues are to be expected / normal and which are not
[09:35] <fl0_id> ?
[09:49] <zeorin1> Booting from a 20.04 live usb also doesn't work
[11:21] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:29] <ichernev> Hi. I'm running 18.04 LTS on an arm NAS board. Out of the blue, the raid10 array stopped working, and now, when I try to "mdadm --assemble" the array it shows "mdadm: /dev/sdX is busy - skipping" for all 4 drives. I tried lsod, I tried fuser, I searched mtab -- nothing.
[11:32] <tomreyn> ichernev: what about dmesg?
[11:32] <tarelerulz> I'm just starting program like  , never got past like chapter one really basic , what a good ide to start with?
[11:33] <ichernev> tarelerulz, what programming language?
[11:33] <tarelerulz> c ++
[11:33] <nelgin> https://www.thegeekdiary.com/mdadm-cannot-open-dev-sda1-device-or-resource-busy/
[11:33] <nelgin> Check that out.
[11:34] <tarelerulz> I tried code block
[11:34] <ichernev> tarelerulz, at this point I don't think the IDE is as important as you think.
[11:34] <ichernev> tomreyn, nelgin let me have a look, thanks!
[11:35] <tarelerulz> I thought maybe there was one that is good for people just starting
[11:35] <nelgin> See if any multipathing software has control.
[11:35] <nelgin> IDE? Real programmers use vim :)
[11:36] <tarelerulz> how about , anjuta
[11:37] <ichernev> nelgin, I found this article BTW :) dmsetup tables shows nothing
[11:38] <ichernev> nelgin, I don't have multipathd, is there any other "multipath" software?
[11:39] <tomreyn> ichernev: start by sharing some output: cat /proc/mdstat    and  mdadm --detail for each device.
[11:40] <ichernev> tarelerulz, you can use any IDE really. Just try to focus on the language, and not on the IDE. IDEs get useful when you have bigger projects. For learning, you rarely have more than a few files. I do use vim for big projects as well, but not that often. But it's not really an IDE
[11:40] <ichernev> tomreyn, I shall use pastebin or sth>
[11:40] <tomreyn> /topic says "Pastes to https://paste.ubuntu.com/"
[11:43] <ichernev> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bpGhCB8DHc/
[11:43] <ichernev> tomreyn, dmesg doesn't have anything ... weird
[11:45] <ichernev> tomreyn, to be fair, before this problem, one of the disks, looks like its out of the array. But the other 3 were working normally. I restarted, and now it is like that. That is why the last drive shows Array State AAAA, and the rest show AAA.
[11:45] <ichernev> blkid shows all devices. I was trying to run some smartctl
[11:47] <frad> what's the safest way to rename a ssd without damagingthe data?
[11:49] <ichernev> frad, can you be more specific? Is it external?
[11:50] <frad> ichernev, inside slot, ssd with a luks partition. Data is simply text audio and video files, no OS involved. My first option was gparted
[11:50] <tomreyn> ichernev: what'S the output of     sudo mdadm --assemble --scan --verbose
[11:52] <frad> or maybe 'sudo e2label /dev/sda SSD'
[11:52] <frad> ?
[11:52] <ichernev> tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QBcX4GSsty/
[11:53] <ichernev> frad, may I ask why do you want to label it? You want to see the label in the File Manager when it is mounted or something?
[11:54] <frad> ichernev, exactly. Now its name is a 30 charachter long mix of numbers and letters
[11:55] <ichernev> e2label shows existing label too -- you can verify it is the 30 characters you see. Your data is safe with e2label
[11:55] <ichernev> tomreyn, the important part is the "busy" for the drives involved
[12:00] <piraye> hello
[12:01] <ichernev> piraye, hi
[12:02] <piraye> I have problem with filesystem root, it has only 413,5 MB free space
[12:02] <piraye> what should I do?
[12:03] <ichernev> what is the output of df -h
[12:04] <piraye> ichernev, https://paste2.org/YDcEPYJI
[12:06] <ichernev> piraye, it looks like you have a one drive setup. What about `du -sh ~` from your normal (non root) user
[12:06] <ichernev> piraye, just the number, not the error log lines (if any)
[12:07] <piraye> ichernev, 19G	/home/sevilay
[12:08] <ichernev> tomreyn, here's smartctl -a on all devices -- I didn't find anything fishy. Not even for the "bad" drive: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cch7ctdC4b/
[12:09] <Tankburn> hey, is this the right channel to ask advice on for Ubuntu server?
[12:09] <Ben64> there's also #ubuntu-server but go for it
[12:09] <ichernev> piraye, hm, so you have 20G in your home and ~20G outside. When I have to clean up space I start baobab (it's an UI application) that scans the whole disk and shows stuff that is big. Easy to find forgotten stuff laying around
[12:11] <Tankburn> ater install I have no internet as wifi is disabled by default and is my only option here. Was wondering how to enable it... been through a guide to put the wifi details into /etc/netplan/*.yaml but it didnt work and not I have a systemctl issue were it it hangs on starting a job
[12:12] <Tankburn> now*
[12:12] <Ben64> server on wifi?
[12:12] <Tankburn> yeah
[12:12] <Ben64> just install desktop version then
[12:12] <ichernev> Tankburn, do you have networkmanager? (nmcli from the cmdline)
[12:13] <Tankburn> unfortunately it is not installed
[12:13] <piraye> ichernev, how can I clean up space in IU applications?
[12:13] <ichernev> if you don't have any way to wire it for setup ... (like usb - ethernet dongle or sth), it will be rough. Better to reinstall as Ben64 suggested
[12:14] <tomreyn> ichernev: sorry, got distracted
[12:14] <Tankburn> Hey Ben64 I would like to but I dont want a gui to hinder the performance of this old scruffy machine :P
[12:14] <ichernev> piraye, you can just figure out where it is. You can delete it anyway you like :) command line, file manager etc
[12:14] <piraye> okay
[12:15] <ichernev> Tankburn, well, then you can have a separate ubuntu box, figure out the needed packages, transfer them via USB and install them
[12:15] <piraye> ichernev, thank you
[12:15] <Ben64> Tankburn: something like lubuntu would be super light
[12:15] <Ben64> or i mean, don't use wifi since wifi is bad
[12:16] <ichernev> Tankburn, does the machine NOT have ethernet port, or you don't have ethernet cable. Usually old stuff has ports...
[12:17] <ichernev> if it does, you can give it internet from a newer machine (with port), you can install the wireless tools, and connect to wifi
[12:17] <Munsko> If the machine dont have ethernet port you could give it internet with a phone
[12:17] <Munsko> And a usb cable
[12:17] <Munsko> Almost all phones have that option now
[12:18] <Tankburn> all good. Ive done it before using the standard install b4, just cant find the article for it. Yea wifi is bad, but the router is not accessible here.
[12:18] <Munsko> Its called USB modem or something like that
[12:18] <Tankburn> I'll let you know how I did it when I find the answer, thanks for the suggestions though
[12:19] <Tankburn> thanks Munsko I'll give thata try too
[12:19] <tomreyn> ichernev: does this return more than 4 devices? ls -lah /dev/dm-*
[12:20] <tomreyn> ichernev: more or less than, rather. and are there exactly 4 symlinks in /dev/mapper/ ?
[12:23] <tomreyn> ichernev: rephrasing (sorry): are there exactly four devices returned by     ls -lah /dev/dm-*     as well as by    find /dev/mapper -type l -ls
[12:23] <ichernev> tomreyn, I don't have any /dev/dm-* in /dev/mapper there is only `control`
[12:24] <ichernev> tomreyn, I ran --assemble with strace, it comes from the kernel directly `openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/sdd", O_RDONLY|O_EXCL|O_DIRECT|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 EBUSY (Device or resource busy)`
[12:26] <tomreyn> ichernev: i'm not suggesting this for now, but would rebooting be an option?
[12:26] <ichernev> tomreyn, well then -- there are 0 (zero) devices /dev/dm-* and no symlinks in /dev/mapper (only control, which is not a symlink)
[12:27] <tomreyn> ichernev: try this: https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts/blob/master/rescan_scsi
[12:28] <rapidwave> Anyone know why, when I reboot, I have to do so twice because the first time there is no internet?
[12:28] <tomreyn> ichernev: that's IF rebooting is an option
[12:29] <ichernev> tomreyn, but my drives are SATA?
[12:32] <ichernev> tomreyn, I echoed the dashes manually to all 4 scsi devices -- nothing.
[12:33] <ichernev> currently I'm connected via usb serial, i tried to enable ssh but it says "system is booting". How can I fix this (force it)
[12:34] <ichernev> I mean the ssh server is running, but when connecting it drops me with "system is booting" message
[12:36] <tomreyn> ichernev: ah, so the system didn't reach the default systemd target when booting
[12:36] <tomreyn> do you have a GUI installed there?
[12:36] <diverdude> When i boot my machine, my grub loader looks like this: https://i.ibb.co/ZzLRm4X/20200517-142601.jpg   The entry called `Ubuntu` points to the 20.04 installation. I dont want this to be the top (default). Top(default) should be the `Ubuntu 18.04` option. So i have installed grub-customizer to change the list...but i dont see anything called 18.04 in there (see https://i.ibb.co/G9bq7YP/20200517-142952.jpg)  How on earth do i then make 18.04 defa
[12:36] <diverdude>  the grub loader?
[12:37] <ichernev> tomreyn, no. But this messed up, because it was a remote server, and I had to go get it, because it refused to start ssh due to the raid not being loaded. It is in /etc/fstab, but doesn't mount on /. It is non-essential to system boot but prevents normal system boot
[12:38] <ichernev> if I can fix this at least I'll have a sane terminal (this picocom over usb is pretty trash)
[12:40] <Ben64> diverdude: why does it matter the order
[12:40] <diverdude> Ben64: because when i restart the machine i want it to boot into 18.04
[12:41] <Ben64> ok so the order doesn't matter
[12:41] <ichernev> diverdude, you can specify which line should be the default
[12:41] <ichernev> (that is, the one that would boot if you don't touch it)
[12:41] <diverdude> ok but which line corresponds o 18.04 ?
[12:41] <Ben64> you could either change the default, or set it to boot the last booted one (what i do on my dual boot systems)
[12:41] <diverdude> o=to
[12:42] <diverdude> Ben64: ok - change default to 18.04. how do i do that?
[12:42] <tomreyn> ichernev: if the root file system is on the raid then this would explain why some services didn't start up fully. systemctl status   may hint on what's missing for a full start.
[12:42] <diverdude> there are no lines in the grub-customizer that says anything with 18.04
[12:43] <Ben64> i could tell you how to have it remember the last choice
[12:43] <diverdude> i can do that also...but thats not so good
[12:43] <ichernev> tomreyn, it is not on the raid. The root is on an mmc. The raid is not essential whatsoever. It is mounted under /mnt
[12:43] <diverdude> because sometimes its booting into windows and i dont want that to happen next time
[12:43] <diverdude> so by default it should always boot into 18.04
[12:44] <diverdude> unless otherwise instructed
[12:44] <Ben64> looks like it's in /etc/default/grub
[12:44] <diverdude> so which entry in grub-customizer is ubuntu 18.04?
[12:45] <Ben64> dunno what grub-customizer is. the file you need to edit seems to be /etc/default/grub
[12:45] <diverdude> Ben64: ok and what do i write there?
[12:46] <ichernev> tomreyn, systemctl status --> maintenance
[12:46] <ichernev> tomreyn, is there a way to hint in fstab that something is non-essential? Like even if it doesn't mount -- continue?
[12:47] <Ben64> "Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS (18.04)" or more or less of that line, or a number
[12:47] <ichernev> diverdude, well, first put the existing contents in a paste so we can see what is in there
[12:49] <diverdude> Here: https://dpaste.org/Y3iL
[12:49] <tomreyn> ichernev: according to section5 of the fstab man page (fstab(5)): "nofail do not report errors for this device if it does not exist."
[12:50] <ichernev> diverdude, the GRUB_DEFAULT line -- you need to change 0 to something else (like the correct line). Or 'saved' to use the last option
[12:51] <rapidwave> No one knows why I have to reboot twice to have internet?
[12:51] <tomreyn> ichernev: i'll have to leave shortly (for an hour or so)- i think massaging systemd to fully start up *could* be key to getting the drives out of busy state in mdadm's sense, but not really sure there - it could also be unrelated issues.
[12:52] <diverdude> ichernev: ok...what is "something else" ?
[12:53] <ichernev> 0 means the first line, 1 means the second line...
[12:54] <diverdude> ichernev: ok and how do i know which linenumber to choose?
[12:54] <ichernev> tomreyn, I just removed the line from fstab and now it boots normally.
[12:54] <tomreyn> ichernev: those disks are old and not in the smartmontools DB, but their critical indicators look fine. so i think the failure to start the raid is purely a logical one. make sure the contents (especially the ARRAY lines) of /etc/mdadm are sound, including the "names" pointing to the hostnames recorded when the arrays were created. in the end you may need to --assemble --force (but be very carefu about it, it can be destructive)
[12:55] <ichernev> tomreyn, thank you for the help!
[12:55] <diverdude> ichernev: can i see a list of the possible lines somehow, so that i know what number to write?
[12:56] <ichernev> diverdude, the way the lines are assembled depends on configuration in /etc. A simple thing to do is just see the current list of lines in grub, and choose the right one
[12:57] <ichernev> you can see the list when you run grub. Also the compiled list should be under /boot/grub.cfg or similar. It should be a big file starting with /etc/default/grub and continuing with the actual options
[12:57] <ichernev> look for a text file under /boot that has grub in the name
[12:58] <ichernev> (sorry, I don't run grub on my machines :))
[12:58] <diverdude> ichernev: ok so my grub looks like this: https://i.ibb.co/ZzLRm4X/20200517-142601.jpg   if i want `Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS... ` to be default should i then just set GRUB_DEFAULT="4" ?
[12:58] <diverdude> sorry, i mean 3
[12:58] <diverdude> because it starts on 0
[12:59] <ichernev> diverdude, yep
[13:00] <ichernev> you also have to regenerate the actual grub file (grub-mkconfig)
[13:02] <diverdude> ichernev: arrrg it did not work :/ nothing changed
[13:04] <diverdude> ichernev: i ran sudo update-grub after i had updated 0->3. Should i in addition also run grub-mkconfig ?
[13:07] <diverdude> ichernev: absolutely nothing changed. I changed 0->3. I ran sudo update-grub and i also ran sudo grub-mkconfig but it still boots into 20.04 by default. What am I missing now?
[13:08] <jeremy31> diverdude: GRUB_DEFAULT=4 or "4"
[13:08] <felco> My computer crash/hang for third time in 20.04
[13:09] <diverdude> jeremy31: ok, should it be 4 and not 3?
[13:09] <ichernev> diverdude, at least when you change the 0 to something else, something else should boot
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> felco: check /var/crash whats it about
[13:09] <jeremy31> diverdude: I would think GRUB_DEFAULT=3 should boot 18.04
[13:10] <felco> lotuspsychje didnt know about that, but the last file is from yesterday
[13:12] <diverdude> Ok - i changed "4"->"3" and ran `sudo grub-mkconfig`   but still, absolutely nothing changed. Why is nothing changing?
[13:13] <ichernev> grub-mkconfig -- you might have to do 'sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg'
[13:13] <ichernev> but update-grub is supposed to do that already
[13:14] <diverdude> i already tried running sudo update-grub
[13:14] <ichernev> diverdude, it is possible that you're not changing the real boot partition, but instead another one, which is not used
[13:14] <diverdude> it does not change anything
[13:14] <diverdude> ichernev: hmm ok. how can i find out which one is used then?
[13:15] <jeremy31> diverdude: did you use 3 or "3" in the GRUB_DEFAULT line?
[13:15] <jp29> testing testing 123
[13:15] <jeremy31> I don't think quotes are needed
[13:16] <diverdude> jeremy31: i used "3"....i did that because the value was initially "0"
[13:16] <ichernev> diverdude, I'm not very fluent with grub, haven't had to fix it for like 8 years now. If you're using UEFI boot, you should be able to boot directly from bios (with the right configuration). For BIOS (legacy) boot, the situation is different
[13:17] <jeremy31> diverdude: post URL from terminal for>  cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> jp29: we see you
[13:19] <diverdude> jeremy31:  Here: https://termbin.com/jz3b
[13:20] <jeremy31> diverdude: try it without the quotes around the number
[13:20] <diverdude> ok, brb
[13:21] <echoSMILE> I have ubuntu 19.10 installed with luks (I follow a guide with manually steps for this). Now the system is says that has a new version of ubuntu 20... is safe to do a upgrade for the new version ?
[13:25] <jp29> how do i leave a channel?
[13:26] <ichernev> jp29, /part ?
[13:27] <ichernev> echoSMILE, if you've done it the manual way you should know which step "unlocks" it. So then you can just make sure this step is set up the same way under 20.04
[13:27] <b1ackandwh1te> how do i leave a chanell with a custom goodby message?
[13:28] <felco> /part message
[13:28] <b1ackandwh1te> :) thanks
[13:28] <echoSMILE> ichernev: Hum, I just follow a ubuntu guide they have in wiki
[13:30] <ichernev> echoSMILE, can you send a link to the guide?
[13:30] <jp29> thats useful... is there a list of this beyong the /help
[13:30] <echoSMILE> ichernev: right now I can't, but later I will.
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> jp29: the freenode irc help is at #freenode this is ubuntu support here
[13:31] <echoSMILE> Btw, I just exec "cp -R /from /to" and in another term I just did "du -sh /to" but the du seems to be freeze, I already try to kill the process but no luck. Any way to stop the du ?
[13:31] <mr_lou> What am I missing? :-(  I've added all of these in my /etc/sysctl.conf - but still my system doesn't reboot when it hangs. https://www.supertechcrew.com/kernel-panics-and-lockups/
[13:32] <ichernev> echoSMILE, other than kill -9 ... not many options, esp if it's stuck in the kernel
[13:32] <echoSMILE> It seems the "cp" and "du" processes are labeled as "D" at htop, not sure what this means, but for sure they are not doing nothing has the "df" shows the exact free resources
[13:33] <DaniG2k> Hello all. I'm trying to upgrade my Ubuntu 18.04 DigitalOcean droplet to 20.04
[13:33] <DaniG2k> Every time I try to do  sudo do-release-upgrade -d I am getting an error
[13:33] <echoSMILE> ichernev: esp ?
[13:33] <DaniG2k> Invalid package information
[13:33] <DaniG2k> After updating your package information, the essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' could not be located. This may be because you have no official mirrors listed in your software sources, or because of excessive load on the mirror you are using. See /etc/apt/sources.list for the current list of configured software sources. In the case of an overloaded mirror, you may want to try the upgrade again later.
[13:33] <DaniG2k> anyone know how I can fix this?
[13:33] <ichernev> mr_lou, I have no experience with that, but if you think about it, if the kernel is really hard stuck, nothing can make it reboot. Unless it's a hardware watchdog or sth. All these settings are "best effort" :)
[13:34] <ichernev> echoSMILE, esp --> especially
[13:34] <echoSMILE> ichernev: so reboot is needed ?
[13:34] <ichernev> echoSMILE, is your system frozen?
[13:35] <echoSMILE> ichernev: the system not
[13:35] <ichernev> echoSMILE, just because one command misbehaves .. You can kill the shell
[13:35] <echoSMILE> ichernev: how?
[13:35] <ichernev> how to kill the shell, or how to do kill -9 on du?
[13:35] <echoSMILE> the shell, the kill -9 I already tried before
[13:36] <ichernev> the shell is the graphical thing you run command in (unless you run them in the ctrl-alt-123 tty)
[13:36] <ichernev> it has a X button or whatever, depending on your graphical interface
[13:36] <echoSMILE> I'm using native console
[13:36] <echoSMILE> no X at the moment
[13:36] <ichernev> you can switch to a new console then :)
[13:37] <ichernev> alt-left/right ?
[13:37] <EoflaOE> DaniG2k: Is your system amd64 or i386? Because the i386 repos for focal doesn't have ubuntu-minimal package.
[13:37] <echoSMILE> ichernev: sure, but I want to stop the du process
[13:38] <EoflaOE> If you scrolled down on this page: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/ubuntu-minimal, you will see that there is no "i386" download.
[13:38] <DaniG2k> EoflaOE: x86_64 not sure which one that is
[13:39] <echoSMILE> ichernev: I can switch over consoles, but like you said, I want to kill the terminal where the du process is running without stop
[13:40] <EoflaOE> DaniG2k: You can check to see if your system is running amd64 by "uname -a"
[13:40] <DaniG2k> EoflaOE: Linux basho 4.15.0-50-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 6 18:46:08 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:41] <DaniG2k> so it's not possible to install focal on x86?
[13:42] <ichernev> echoSMILE, the terminal is running under a process -- if you find it (with ps auxf) you can kill that instead
[13:43] <EoflaOE> DaniG2k: You can't install focal in i386. Even if you get it to install, you will miss a lot of programs since they will be deleted during the upgrade. Pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.
[13:44] <DaniG2k> EoflaOE: https://pastebin.com/1iMeEMVC
[13:44] <echoSMILE> ichernev: ps auxf | grep du give me: "root 5143 0.0 0.0 8140 772 pts/1 D+ 12:56 0:00 | \_ du -sh ..."
[13:45] <DaniG2k> EoflaOE: I've had this droplet for ages, maybe it's on an old architecture
[13:47] <echoSMILE> ichernev: I kill the terminal, but the process still going on
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> pj29: please choose a nick and stick with it
[13:47] <echoSMILE> *killed
[13:48] <EoflaOE> DaniG2k: Yes, it might be. Actually, you have the droplet since 12.04 i386.
[13:49] <DaniG2k> yeah :(
[13:49] <ViperXL75> I've been having this strange behaviour since I installed a newer Linux on my very old hardware. Regularly, the GUI interface (gdm3) will freeze up and not respond anymore to any mouse clicks. I can move the mouse around though. But if I ssh into the machine and kill gdm3, it relaunches gdm3 and I can continue to use it without a problem. Where do you start to check what's actually crashing?
[13:49] <rapidwave> echoSMILE: Any idea why I have to reboot twice everytime because hte first reboot won't have internet?
[13:50] <echoSMILE> rapidwave: no idea, but that seems odd
[13:50] <ViperXL75> rapidwave: When you don't have Internet, can you check if you got any IP addresses on ur network card?
[13:51] <rapidwave> Last time I checked, it would give a 169
[13:51] <rapidwave> Just a default ip when there is no connection
[13:51] <echoSMILE> it seems a dhcp issue
[13:51] <ViperXL75> with default u mean 169 address? LIke 169.254.bla.bla  ?
[13:51] <rapidwave> No, it would end in 169
[13:52] <ViperXL75> but what does it start with?
[13:52] <ViperXL75> Also 169?
[13:52] <rapidwave> I don't remember
[13:52] <ViperXL75> okay.  For the sake of ruling out DHCP.. just put those IP addresses in there manually.
[13:53] <ViperXL75> Like go look now what the IP addres... Netmask(probably 255.255.255.0) and standard gateway is. And put them in the machine manually. And for DNS, just put 8.8.8.8 or whatever number that your gateway is.
[13:53] <ViperXL75> See if it still happens.
[13:53] <rapidwave> I'll try that later. This is the machine it happens with
[13:53] <ViperXL75> xD
[13:53] <ViperXL75> gotcha
[13:54] <ViperXL75> I don't remember the command to just manually bring down a Network card. But you could try next time to find out which command will disable (and ofcourse enable) your network card. Next time the issue happens. Just bring your network card Down and then Up. Maybe that can help too.
[13:56] <ViperXL75> Found it.
[13:56] <ViperXL75> rapidwave: https://www.2daygeek.com/enable-disable-up-down-nic-network-interface-port-linux-using-ifconfig-ifdown-ifup-ip-nmcli-nmtui/
[13:59] <ViperXL75> I've been having this strange behaviour since I installed a newer Linux on my very old hardware. Regularly, the GUI interface (gdm3) will freeze up and not respond anymore to any mouse clicks. I can move the mouse around though. But if I ssh into the machine and kill gdm3, it relaunches gdm3 and I can continue to use it without a problem. Where do you start to check what's actually crashing?
[13:59] <michagogo> Hi, I see there’s a package with a bug involving a service-side change breaking functionality that was opened about a month ago, and the next day there was a reply with simple patches to the versions of the package in bionic, eoan, and focal. However, nothing’s happened since then - what would be the best way to get this looked at and fixed?
[14:00] <michagogo> The bug in question is #1872819
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> bug #1872819
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: there's a few tricks to get more attention to bugs, find more users that can affect your bug, test things yourself and add new test descriptions to your bug
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: but as debian already patched it, it surely is a matter of time till ubuntu will get it also
[14:05] <ikonia> it really shouldn't take this long though
[14:05] <ikonia> try to find out / get access to the people who maintain the packages, these are basic things to fix breaking changes
[14:05] <ikonia> work with them if possible to understand if there is a reason they have not picked up the change yet
[14:07] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: looks like G already has it fixed
[14:08] <michagogo> The question is regarding getting it fixed in B/F/E, which AIUI is purely an Ubuntu-side procedure
[14:09] <cyveris> Which package owns /etc/passwd?
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: find yourself a second user affected, and your bug gets auto confirmed
[14:10] <michagogo> lotuspsychje: I just became that second user
[14:10] <michagogo> Hm, how come some bugs list individual ubuntu versions as being affected or not and some just say “ubuntu”?
[14:11] <michagogo> And does that have any implications?
[14:13] <ikonia> cyveris: noreutils normally
[14:13] <ikonia> core
[14:13] <ikonia> michagogo: bugs sometimes only impact specific versions
[14:13] <cyveris> Something in the focal install process is creating duplicate entries for root and nobody in /etc/passwd.
[14:14] <cyveris> I've confirmed this across multiple systems, all installed via live-server media.
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: think your best bet is now indeed as ikonia states, get involved with the maintainers
[14:14] <ikonia> cyveris: what do you mean ?
[14:14] <ikonia> cyveris: you have 2 uid 0 accounts
[14:14] <cyveris> Specifically "root," and "nobody."
[14:15] <cyveris> Well, let me just show you.
[14:15] <ikonia> cyveris: can you pastebin /etc/passwd please
[14:17] <cyveris> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yc4tQPvqnV/
[14:18] <cyveris> So, what I'm actually seeing now that I look closer. /etc/passwd has the correct data, but getent passwd is appending an extra root and nobody account to the results.
[14:18] <tds> cyveris: what does your nsswitch.conf look like?
[14:19] <cyveris> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8cFjF73VXx/
[14:19] <cyveris> Default install.
[14:19] <tds> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/15160
[14:20] <cyveris> Huh.
[14:20] <cyveris> Thanks.
[14:22] <michagogo> ikonia: yeah, I know - but in some cases, such as the aforementioned bug, the page doesn’t indicate any versions at all, one way or the other
[14:22] <tomreyn> ichernev: were you able to solve the raid problem, yet?
[14:22] <michagogo> What I’m wondering is what might cause a particular bug to be broken down into versions or not
[14:24] <ichernev> tomreyn, no. But I see some issues (possibly) under dmesg. Here's the relevant sections: https://termbin.com/h4v5
[14:24] <ichernev> tomreyn, I ran smartctrl -t short on all drives and they reported fine.
[14:25] <ichernev> but during boot at least it looks pretty scary
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> michagogo: i think you are over-analyzing it
[14:27] <ichernev> tomreyn, just search for "err"
[14:27] <tomreyn> ichernev: what's this kernel?
[14:27] <tomreyn> you don't seem to be running ubuntu
[14:29] <ichernev> tomreyn, armbian
[14:29] <ichernev> but the OS is ubuntu
[14:29] <tomreyn> ichernev: this channel is about ubuntu
[14:30] <tomreyn> ichernev: user space is part of a distro, but without the right kernel patches you're not on ubuntu
[14:32] <tomreyn> ichernev: ion the future, please don't state you're running Ubuntu 18.04 when you're not running its kernels.
[14:33] <ichernev> tomreyn, sorry. I wasn't aware. I set this up a long time ago, now I run lsb_release -a and it said Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[14:34] <tomreyn> ichernev: ok, try getting helpin ##linux
[14:34] <akem> Well you still can install the packages from 18.04 even if you build your own kernel, so you're still using 18.04, just need to explicitly tell you got your own kernel.
[14:35] <akem> Ha it's not Ubuntu here, nm then.
[14:35] <cyveris> ichernev: There are ubuntu releases specifically for ARM hardware.
[14:37] <ichernev> cyveris, I can have a look there as well, I have a few spare sd cards.
[14:37] <ichernev> tomreyn, i'll try, thanks again!
[14:43] <pj29> where are there general chats on IRC?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> !alis | pj29
[14:58] <echoSMILE> When I plug a SSD by USB I get this messages at terminal: "[472.xxxxxx] sd 4:0:0:0 [sdb] Asking for cache data failed" and "[472.xxxxxxx] sd 4:0:0:0 [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through" <- what this means ?
[15:05] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: that the disk does not do write caching itself, or does not need the operating system to treat it specially for doing any (more likely the latter).
[15:09] <echoSMILE> tomreyn: so that output is just an information? The disk sometimes does appear at the fdisk -l, other times it doesn't. I already add a entry at /etc/fstab
[15:14] <tomreyn> "Asking for cache data failed" is not normal, i'd say. i don'T know whether it points to a problem. combined with what you just said, i'd look into replacing / cross testing any wires and connectors you use there to attach this disk.
[15:15] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: which ubuntu release and kernel version is this?
[15:16] <tomreyn> which ssd model?
[15:16] <echoSMILE> ubuntu and kernel: 19.10, 5.3.0-51-generic, ssd model: crucial mx500 1TB
[15:17] <echoSMILE> Probably is the connector I am using, is quite old.
[15:20] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: that's actually an internal ssd, so you'll have some (s)ata to usb translation layer there.
[15:23] <echoSMILE> tomreyn: yep, a connector that converts (s)ata to usb
[15:24] <tomreyn> this is probably where the OS request to the drive to discuss what kind of caching it uses, or the replay from the drive to the Os, is dropped.
[15:25] <tomreyn> you'll be fine with it falling back to write-through, though, it's not a performance loss with this drive, i think.
[15:25] <echoSMILE> tomreyn: the thing is, if I unplug and plug and that messages doesn't appear, then the ssd already appears in fdisk -l and can be used
[15:26] <goddard> my logs program says I have limited acccess to my log files, it then suggests I read a help file.  I read the help file and it says I may be a user and not an "administrator".  What does this really mean and how can I solve it?
[15:26] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: probably because the OS realizes it quried this drive before and doesn't need to do it again.
[15:28] <ducasse> !sudo | goddard
[15:28] <goddard> i get the error on gnome logs even when using sudo
[15:29] <echoSMILE> tomreyn: I don't think so, because all the times and unplug/plug the messages appears and the drive never appear at fdisk -l
[15:29] <tomreyn> goddard: the first system user ubuntu creates when installing is a member of the "sudo" system group. sudo is a mechanism enabling otherwise normal, restricted users, to occasionally "do" things as the "superuser" (su), that's why it's called sudo.
[15:30] <tomreyn> goddard: what you're saying seems to suggest that your user account is not part of this group, thus can't run programs as the superuser. the default superuser is "root".
[15:31] <goddard> i am apart of the sudoers group
[15:31] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: and does it show up in     dmesg -w   then?
[15:31] <goddard> output of the groups command has my username and sudo listed
[15:33] <tomreyn> goddard: hmm, i think the "logs" graphical log viewer (which i assume you were referring to) is a snap application on ubuntu 18.04, and maybe this impacts its abilities to access some log files. which ubuntu release are you running? this would tell:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)
[15:36] <kenperkins> anyone able to assist me in getting my fans to report speed in ubuntu?
[15:37] <echoSMILE> tomreyn: I unplug and plug, check the last messages about sdb at dmesg -w: https://pastebin.com/bVZLSnDV
[15:39] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: this looks normal to me.
[15:40] <goddard> tomreyn: snap list doesn't list gnome logs
[15:41] <goddard> tomreyn: im on 20.04
[15:44] <ducasse> goddard: gnome-logs is an apt package on 20.04
[15:44] <tomreyn> goddard: i see, so my theory there doesn't apply, it'll be some other reason which i can't think of right now. if you're part of the sudo group and run the default graphical desktop (gnome-shell) you should be able to start the "settings" application, then navigate to "users" (may be in a "details" submenu), and click the "Unlock" button on the menu bar.
[15:44] <ducasse> the snap is the same version afaict
[15:46] <tomreyn> different default restrictions apply to a snap than to an apt package, that's where i was coming from. and i think on 18.04, gnome-logs was a snap.
[15:46]  * tomreyn bbl
[15:47] <Psi-Jack> Big Black Lesbians?
[15:47]  * Psi-Jack ducks and runs.
[15:48] <kenperkins> @Psi-Jack did I mention I installed 20.04 on the thinkpad and it more-or-less worked perfectly
[15:49] <Psi-Jack> kenperkins: I can neither confirm nor deny that you had.
[15:50] <dex1983> hi
[15:50] <dex1983> can someone help me with VPN @ Ubuntu when Ubuntu runs in a virtualbox as guest?
[15:51] <dex1983> How I can do that?
[15:51] <Psi-Jack> But, if that is true, then eggcelent! I got 20.04 onto my Laptop and Desktop pretty nicely.
[15:53] <kenperkins> fwiw, I'm trying out pop instead of ubuntu proper
[15:53] <kenperkins> I love that there are no snaps
[15:54] <BluesKaj> one can run 'buntu just fine without snaps
[15:55] <kenperkins> @BluesKaj, when I installed 20.04 on my test device, I saw a good ~10 snaps on by default; you saying those are easily removed?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> kenperkins, you must have some installed from the previous OS you upgradaded from
[15:57] <BluesKaj> I'm testing Gorilla 20.10 and not a snap in sight
[15:57] <BluesKaj> upgraded even
[15:58] <kenperkins> it wasn't an upgrade
[16:00] <BluesKaj> well, not having used any snaps I'm not sure how they're managed package-wise
[16:00] <kenperkins> not trying to rag on ubuntu, I hate popos's tiling so far, much prefer ubuntu's window management
[16:00] <kenperkins> just don't love snaps
[16:08] <SpangBab> Alright
[16:08] <Munsko> Hey
[16:08] <Munsko> Nice
[16:08] <Munsko> Well, we can help you more easy
[16:09] <Munsko> I would suggest you to check in the log-in screen the desktops enviroments that u have avaiable
[16:09] <SpangBab> yeah this is very helpful
[16:09] <Munsko> I mean, go to the menu, put log-off and check in the upper bar
[16:09] <Munsko> You will see something called openbox and Lubuntu i think
[16:09] <Munsko> But maybe is something more there
[16:10] <Munsko> Check it, just to be sure that the problem is lxqt
[16:10] <SpangBab> wait so, i logout?
[16:10] <Munsko> Yes, check that thing and come back, please
[16:10] <SpangBab> okay i'll come back in a bit then
[16:10] <Munsko> nice
[16:11] <Munsko> If somebody have idea, hes trying to solve on error in the desktop(check: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1240430/desktop-wont-work-on-lubuntu"
[16:11] <Munsko> "failed to execute child process lxsession-default directory (no such file or directory)" thats the error
[16:20] <SpangBab> i'm back
[16:20] <Munsko> Well
[16:20] <Munsko> What u have in that tab?
[16:20] <SpangBab> i tried the other sessions
[16:20] <SpangBab> i have
[16:21] <SpangBab> lubuntu, openbox and lxqt-sessions or wahtever it's called
[16:21] <SpangBab> whatever*
[16:21] <Munsko> Well, you tried the last one?
[16:21] <Munsko> Or just checked its names
[16:22] <SpangBab> well
[16:22] <SpangBab> ther eare only 3
[16:22] <SpangBab> there are*
[16:22] <SpangBab> i tried all of them
[16:22] <SpangBab> on the lxqt one
[16:22] <SpangBab> it would do the same
[16:22] <SpangBab> as on lubuntu
[16:22] <SpangBab> but on the openbox session
[16:22] <SpangBab> it would just not load at all
[16:22] <Munsko> Openbox is no GUI
[16:22] <SpangBab> ah alright
[16:22] <Munsko> well, i found on more thing
[16:23] <Munsko> Go to the menu bar, an search "LXQT configuration center"
[16:23] <SpangBab> what thing?
[16:23] <SpangBab> alright
[16:23] <Munsko> Enter there and then in the "desktop" icon that is there
[16:23] <SpangBab> yeah that's the thing
[16:23] <SpangBab> the desktop icon wouldn't work
[16:23] <Munsko> Well
[16:23] <Munsko> go to advanced tab
[16:23] <SpangBab> it wouldn't open it
[16:23] <SpangBab> alright
[16:23] <Munsko> oh
[16:23] <Munsko> Try it
[16:24] <SpangBab> desktop icon?
[16:24] <Munsko> no
[16:24] <Munsko> i mean,yes
[16:24] <Munsko> the icon there
[16:24] <SpangBab> yeah it doesn't work
[16:24] <SpangBab> it doesn't open
[16:24] <SpangBab> it just doesn't give me anything
[16:24] <Munsko> well
[16:24] <Munsko> search "Desktop" instead
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> easy on the enter button SpangBab Munsko
[16:24] <Munsko> in the menu bar
[16:24] <SpangBab> Sorry
[16:24] <SpangBab> Okay
[16:24] <Munsko> its the same
[16:25] <SpangBab> do i open just desktop?
[16:25] <Munsko> Yes
[16:25] <SpangBab> cause there are 3 options
[16:25] <Munsko> click that one
[16:25] <SpangBab> yeah same thing, it wouldn't open anything
[16:25] <Munsko> hmmm
[16:25] <Munsko> well, i think that there should be a way to open it via openbox
[16:26] <Munsko> let me search it
[16:26] <Munsko> just a second
[16:26] <Munsko> brb
[16:26] <SpangBab> alright
[16:30] <jpmh_> I have a 20..4 instance that recently upgraded from 19.10 - I want to install gimp - when I do apt-get install gimp I get the error Some packages could not be installe ... - what do I need to do to fix the missing packages
[16:31] <SpangBab> hmm
[16:31] <SpangBab> I really don't know man, I'm here to get help from someone
[16:31] <SpangBab> welcome back
[16:31] <Munsko> Well
[16:31] <Munsko> I cant enter openbox
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: can you pastebin the apt errors please
[16:31] <SpangBab> so?
[16:31] <Munsko> i dont hav eidea why
[16:31] <Munsko> You entered sucefully there?
[16:31] <SpangBab> where does it not open
[16:31] <SpangBab> in the sessions?
[16:32] <Munsko> in log-in screen
[16:32] <SpangBab> in the logging in menu?
[16:32] <SpangBab> ah
[16:32] <Munsko> yes
[16:32] <SpangBab> yeah same thing for me it wouldn't open
[16:32] <Munsko> You cant enter openbox either?
[16:32] <SpangBab> yeah i can't either
[16:32] <SpangBab> it's the only thing i can't open
[16:32] <Munsko> oh
[16:33] <Munsko> and th lxqt sessions is the same that lubuntu?
[16:33] <Munsko> i didnt tried that one
[16:33] <SpangBab> as i said i had to force restart
[16:33] <SpangBab> to get back to the log-in screen
[16:33] <Munsko> With the other 2?
[16:33] <SpangBab> i tried the other 2
[16:33] <SpangBab> yeah it's the same
[16:33] <Munsko> oh
[16:33] <Munsko> damn thing
[16:33] <SpangBab> in lxqt session
[16:34] <Munsko> let me find how i can open that option
[16:34] <SpangBab> alright
[16:34] <SpangBab> i'll look for it too
[16:34] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: pasted at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DGbN3zvRJW/
[16:35] <Munsko> You can use the terminal,right?
[16:36] <SpangBab> yes
[16:36] <SpangBab> ofc
[16:36] <SpangBab> i can using anything
[16:36] <SpangBab> except the desktop
[16:36] <SpangBab> and desktop settings
[16:36] <Munsko> ok
[16:36] <Munsko> Let me search how is the command
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: you have external ppa's installed on your system?
[16:37] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: no
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: pastebin: uname -a && lsb_release -a
[16:38] <SpangBab> Munsko alright
[16:38] <Munsko> SpangBab, Run "/usr/bin/lxqt-config"
[16:38] <Munsko> Tell me if that thing opens you the menu
[16:38] <SpangBab> okay on sec
[16:38] <SpangBab> one*
[16:39] <SpangBab> wait are you looking for openbox settings?
[16:39] <SpangBab> or the session
[16:39] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: pasted at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xpwxWxjCQv/
[16:39] <Munsko> no
[16:39] <Munsko> I try to force to open the thing about desktop
[16:39] <SpangBab> it said that there is no such file or directory
[16:40] <Munsko> Because one guy solved the problem unmaking one option there
[16:40] <Munsko> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1144623/lubuntu-1810-failed-to-execute-child-process-lxsession-default-no-such-file
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: hmm ok, lets try sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:40] <SpangBab> oh
[16:40] <Munsko> but you cant enter there
[16:40] <Munsko> Lets try this
[16:40] <SpangBab> yeah i can't
[16:40] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: standby
[16:41] <Munsko> put "cd /usr/bin/"
[16:41] <Munsko> and then "ls"
[16:41] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: as I sort of expeced: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:42] <SpangBab> do you mean
[16:42] <SpangBab> oh nvm
[16:42] <SpangBab> i'll see
[16:42] <Munsko> in temrinal
[16:42] <Munsko> a lot of names
[16:42] <SpangBab> yes yes
[16:42] <Munsko> try search the lxqt part
[16:42] <SpangBab> yeah a lot
[16:42] <SpangBab> okay
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: maybe we are looking at a bug then, not sure wich yet
[16:43] <Munsko> You see lxqt-config there?
[16:43] <SpangBab> yes i do
[16:43] <ioria> jpmh_, apt-cache policy libgimp2.0
[16:43] <Munsko> pk
[16:43] <Munsko> ok*
[16:43] <Munsko> now write "lxqt-config"
[16:43] <Munsko> it should open it
[16:43] <SpangBab> alright
[16:44] <jpmh_> ioria: what do you mean?
[16:44] <SpangBab> it said this "(0x7ffcf386be50) Warning: Icon theme "elementary" not found."
[16:44] <ubuntutr> hi
[16:44] <fgould> b3lt3r Were you able to install 20.04 and run correctly? I have it running on RPi4B but have some problems I can't resolve. Was going to ask here.
[16:44] <ioria> jpmh_,  can you paste   'apt-cache policy libgimp2.0' ?
[16:45] <Munsko> but it open of not?
[16:45] <ubuntutr> http://52.250.22.112/
[16:45] <SpangBab> Well
[16:45] <SpangBab> the configuration center opens
[16:46] <Munsko> Yes
[16:46] <SpangBab> and then a windows pops up for like 3-5 seconds
[16:46] <SpangBab> and closes
[16:46] <SpangBab> blank window
[16:46] <Munsko> You can do something there?
[16:46] <ubuntutr> I installed plesk but nameserver is not working
[16:46] <SpangBab> the center yes but the desktop still doesn't work, the window that popped up closed and it didn't show anything on it
[16:47] <Munsko> oh
[16:47] <Munsko> Well, i dont know what to do
[16:47] <Munsko> You have something important in the SO?
[16:47] <SpangBab> In the lubuntu aprtition?
[16:47] <jpmh_> ioria: the paste is at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s3XVvJ3vRH/
[16:47] <SpangBab> partition*
[16:47] <Munsko> I really suggest you make a backup in the cloud and then format
[16:47] <Munsko> Yes
[16:48] <SpangBab> I don't think I need to make a backup
[16:48] <SpangBab> i think i owuld only
[16:48] <Munsko> Ok
[16:48] <Munsko> https://lubuntu.me/downloads/
[16:48] <SpangBab> back up the stuff inside the
[16:48] <SpangBab> downloads
[16:48] <SpangBab> and sednd it to another
[16:48] <SpangBab> partition
[16:48] <SpangBab> and then reinstall
[16:48] <SpangBab> i have lubuntu on a flash disk ready
[16:48] <SpangBab> so i can install it anytime i want
[16:48] <Munsko> But
[16:48] <Munsko> theres a problem with it
[16:48] <ioria> jpmh_, you can see by yourself, right ?
[16:48] <SpangBab> yeah you're right
[16:48] <Munsko> Because u have that bug
[16:48] <Munsko> Downlaod it again
[16:49] <SpangBab> the problem didn't come upat first you know
[16:49] <Munsko> form the official site and make the livecd again
[16:49] <SpangBab> i explained how it happened in the forum
[16:49] <jpmh_> ioria: and lotuspsychje what is weird about ths is that all my other 20.4 instances are having no issue - but they started ats 18.4 not 19.10
[16:49] <Munsko> Oh, yes
[16:49] <Munsko> You could try use that one so
[16:49] <SpangBab> I'll probably download a new version though ngl
[16:49] <ioria> jpmh_,  i guess your sources.list needs a revision maybe
[16:49] <SpangBab> from lubuntu site
[16:49] <jpmh_> ioria: and lotuspsychje actually scrub that - all my others are either NEW 20.4 or existing 18.4
[16:49] <SpangBab> it's better that way to be safe
[16:49] <Munsko> Yes
[16:49] <SpangBab> it'll take some time again, but it's worth it
[16:49] <SpangBab> i'll just remember
[16:50] <Munsko> You actualized 18.04 to 20.04?
[16:50] <SpangBab> not to try to change something in the settings
[16:50] <SpangBab> without clearing ram
[16:50] <Munsko> or how get the 20.04
[16:50] <SpangBab> i actually
[16:50] <SpangBab> downloaded the 20.04
[16:50] <SpangBab> from the site
[16:50] <SpangBab> itself
[16:50] <Munsko> oh
[16:50] <jpmh_> ioria: sorry to be dumb, but I don't understand what you mean by "you can see by yourself, right ?"
[16:50] <SpangBab> and used that to install
[16:50] <SpangBab> yeah i kept changing distros to see which one suited me
[16:50] <SpangBab> this one is the best one by far
[16:50] <Munsko> Try boot that pendrive so
[16:50] <Munsko> and delete every partition of linux
[16:50] <Munsko> not windows, only from linux
[16:51] <ioria> jpmh_,  you are on focal ; check the version here : 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan/universe amd64 Package
[16:51] <Munsko> so you asure yourself of a clean instalation
[16:51] <ioria> jpmh_,  'eoan'
[16:51] <SpangBab> wait should i delete the partitions from windows?
[16:51] <SpangBab> is that okay?
[16:51] <Munsko> no
[16:51] <Munsko> You cant delete form windows
[16:51] <Munsko> You should do that work from the livecd
[16:51] <Munsko> Windows dont recognize linux partitions
[16:51] <SpangBab> i'm pretty sure i can delete the partition though
[16:51] <SpangBab> i mean
[16:51] <Munsko> oh,yes
[16:51] <SpangBab> it doesn't say that it's ext4
[16:51] <Munsko> I get it now
[16:52] <SpangBab> but i can delete the partition
[16:52] <Munsko> You ca, right
[16:52] <SpangBab> eaither way
[16:52] <jpmh_> ioria: OK - yep - I see that - so why is it using that and not focal and how do I fix it?
[16:52] <Munsko> Try delete them and boot
[16:52] <SpangBab> soo, i delete from windows?
[16:52] <SpangBab> alright
[16:52] <Munsko> You could do that,yes
[16:52] <Munsko> Remember answer your question after that
[16:52] <SpangBab> what do you recommend, should i redownload a new iso file or use the one in the pendrive
[16:52] <Munsko> So if anyone have the problem know what u do
[16:52] <Munsko> Try the pendrive one, if this one have the rror, download again
[16:53] <Munsko> You dont lost anything in that way
[16:53] <SpangBab> yeah you're right
[16:53] <SpangBab> i'll backup the stuff in downloads
[16:53] <ioria> jpmh_,  i guess your sources.list needs a revision maybe
[16:53] <SpangBab> and that's it, thanks for the help
[16:53] <Munsko> Try do that if u can
[16:53] <SpangBab> very much
[16:53] <Munsko> Np
[16:53] <SpangBab> you've been very helpful and i learned a lot
[16:53] <Munsko> You can use irc to get help too
[16:54] <Munsko> We have #lubuntu channel and this one
[16:54] <jpmh_> ioria: I have NOT made any changes - the reason I love ubuntu is that it JUST works - what do I need to do
[16:54] <SpangBab> yeah alright
[16:54] <Munsko> Is more efficient to explain problems here
[16:54] <SpangBab> yeah i know
[16:54] <SpangBab> and it's way faster
[16:54] <Munsko> So i recommend it, askubuntu is for fast searchs
[16:54] <ioria> jpmh_,  paste /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:55] <SpangBab> alright, and again, thank you for the help
[16:55] <SpangBab> sorry if i ever wasted your time or anything
[16:57] <funyun> hi. i have an odroid h2 (like raspberry pi) with nvme drive. i was moving some files and my h2 froze. after unplugging and rebooting, now it boots into aptio setup utility. in here when i check under nvme, it says no nvme device found. does this mean my drive is dead? or some other issue? any ideas?
[16:57] <jpmh_> ioria: pasted at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p4jBS2Nrzs/ - and BTW, thanks for being patient with me
[16:57] <jpmh_> ioria: I do note a number of eoan in there and NO focals
[16:57] <Munsko> No problem, just tried to help
[16:58] <SpangBab> have a good day
[16:58] <ioria> jpmh_,  that is eoan 19.10 not focal 20.04
[16:58] <jpmh_> ioria: OK - so what you are telling me is that for some reason the upgrade did NOT update that file.  YES?
[16:59] <jpmh_> ioria: no error were reported
[16:59] <jpmh_> ioria: can I just grab the sources.list from a working 20.4?
[17:00] <ioria> jpmh_,  if that file is not updated, you can't get 20.04, so i don't understand how can you have the focal kernel
[17:01] <Munsko> SpangBab, remember answer the results in your question of askubuntu, i just send the link and the possible solution(format)
[17:01] <jpmh_> ioria: I upgarded last week using the do-release-upgrade and this is how I got to be where I am
[17:02] <ioria> jpmh_,  i don't think you upgraded, sy
[17:03] <jpmh_> ioria: it took some time and said it did - and you will note that uname -a and lasb_release both say that I upgraded - but I do see your point
[17:03] <jpmh_> ioria: and if I ha dnot really upgraded then why does then install of gimp nt work as it would ahve done on 19.10 anyway?
[17:03] <SpangBab> Munskoofc
[17:03] <SpangBab> Munsko ofc
[17:03] <ioria> jpmh_,  dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:04] <jpmh_> ioria: I don't have the nc installed - do you want me to get it?
[17:04] <ioria> jpmh_, it's installed by default
[17:05] <jpmh_> ioria: ignore my comment on nc - I was on the wrong terminal there
[17:05] <jpmh_> ioria: the output is https://termbin.com/ck24
[17:07] <ioria> jpmh_,  apt list --installed | grep -i focal  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:07] <jpmh_> ioria: output is: WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. - NOTHNG else other than a couple of blank lines
[17:08] <ioria> jpmh_,    ls /var/lib/apt/lists/  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:08] <SpangBab> Munsko how do i mark it as answered?
[17:09] <jpmh_> ioria: output is https://termbin.com/ra6y
[17:10] <SpangBab> nvm i think i figured it
[17:10] <SpangBab> out
[17:10] <ioria> jpmh_,    apt-cache policy gimp   | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:10] <Munsko> Hmm
[17:11] <Munsko> le me see
[17:11] <jpmh_> ioria: https://termbin.com/1ae4
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> !info gimp focal
[17:12] <ioria> lotuspsychje, he's not on focal, he's on eoan but with the focal kernel
[17:12] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: am I supposed to glan someting from that - if so, please realize I do not know what
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yeah, i was comparing his gimp version
[17:13] <Munsko> Looks liek you found it
[17:13] <Munsko> like*
[17:13] <ioria> jpmh_,    apt-cache policy linux-image-5.4.0-29-generic  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:13] <jpmh_> so, ioria and lotuspsychje I guess what you are saying is that the upgrade did not really work.  Is there a way I can cause it to happen?
[17:14] <ioria> jpmh_,    apt-cache policy linux-image-5.4.0-29-generic  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:15] <jpmh_> ioria: https://termbin.com/diif
[17:16] <ioria> jpmh_,   does make no sense, but ok .... reboot with the linux-image-5.3.0-51-generic  kernel
[17:17] <jpmh_> ioria: you mean just reboot now?
[17:17] <ioria> jpmh_, you are on eoan, you should use the eoan kernel....
[17:18] <jpmh_> ioria: how do I do that - I am used to just rebooting and everything working
[17:18] <ioria> jpmh_,  you can do it from grub -> advanced options
[17:18] <jpmh_> ioria: this is a KVM so I do not have access to grub, or at least I do not know how
[17:19] <ioria> jpmh_,  edit /etc/default/grub or use grub-reboot
[17:20] <ioria> jpmh_,  or simply remove the focal kernel
[17:20] <jpmh_> ioria: got it - thank you - and to you and lotuspsychje thank you so much for your patience
[17:20] <ioria> jpmh_,  try this : dpkg -l|grep linux-image-[0-9]|grep ^ii|awk '{print $2}'|sort -r| cat -n; echo "select kernel : "; read line; sudo  grub-reboot "1>$(($line+1))"
[17:22] <jpmh_> ioria: my choices are only      1  linux-image-5.4.0-29-generic      2  linux-image-5.3.0-51-generic
[17:22] <NickShades> I have some questions about setting up my Linux desktop as a fileserver for the rest of the house; mostly for the android devices and tablets we have.
[17:22] <ioria> jpmh_,  reboot with the linux-image-5.3.0-51-generic  kernel
[17:22] <ioria> jpmh_,  enter the number
[17:22] <dontlook> hello I'm install 20.04 on a new server with a perc raid card, with the desktop installer I can select the drive which shows up as /dev/sda ... but on the server installer it is greyed out
[17:22] <dontlook> A quick google doesn't get me anything and for some reason I am having trouble with the virtual console
[17:22] <ioria> jpmh_,  the 'line' number
[17:23] <jpmh_> ioria: so, I entered the number, do you want me to re-boot now
[17:23] <ioria> jpmh_,  what you mean ? why not ? you have other issues ?
[17:24] <jpmh_> ioria: I can just scrub and re-install if necessary - this is one, and as far as I know the only one of hundreds of instances with an issue
[17:25] <ioria> jpmh_, i mean, is it the first time you have to reboot after that 'upgrade' to focal  ?
[17:26] <jpmh_> ioria: no - I rebooted after the upgrade and certainly at least one other time
[17:26] <NickShades> Could someone please point me in the right direction for the following: I am interested in using my Linux Desktop to host files for the rest of the computers, but MOSTLY, android tablets and phones throughout the house. Specifically, I want to be able to serve streaming movies from my Linux Desktop to just about any device, mostly Android tablets throughout the house.
[17:26] <ioria> jpmh_, why don't myou just remove the focal kernel for now ?
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: you recall wich command you upgraded?
[17:27] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i think he said 'do-release-upgrade'
[17:27] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: ugraded with do-release-upgrade if that's what you mean
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: and you didnt notice issues during upgrade?
[17:28] <ioria> thta is the weird part ...
[17:28] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: NO, it said all was good
[17:28] <ioria> jpmh_,  are you sure you pasted the correct sources.list ? ls /etc/apt/
[17:28] <frad> 20.04, screen turns black every 30 minutes. I have tweaked every energy configuration and screensaver setting I can think ofbut apparently I am doing something worng. What?
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: or did you play with tools like ukuu or mainline kernels?
[17:29] <jpmh_> ioria: yes - and I just checked again /etc/apt/ sources.list - has NO focal and a load of eoan
[17:29] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: absolutely not - I have no idea what they are
[17:30] <ioria> jpmh_,  apt-forktracer
[17:31] <NickShades> sorry. I accidently lgged out of iRc right after I asked my question, and had to log back in, etc.
[17:32] <jpmh_> ioria: command not found
[17:33] <ioria> jpmh_,  install it
[17:33] <NickShades> Could someone please point me in the right direction for the following: I am interested in using my Linux Desktop to host files for the rest of the computers, but MOSTLY, android tablets and phones throughout the house. Specifically, I want to be able to serve streaming movies from my Linux Desktop to just about any device, mostly Android tablets throughout the house.
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> NickShades: please dont repeat questions to fast
[17:34] <akem> NickShades, I do this. Install and setup Samba shares.
[17:34] <akem> Then on your android client Total commander with LAN plugin and VLC.
[17:35] <NickShades> Total COmmander... Very cool.
[17:36] <NickShades> Now, do you think that using those same setups, I would be able to also access my webcam remotely?
[17:36] <NickShades> or will I need to likely setup a different client/server package
[17:36] <akem> NickShades, No, not the webcam.
[17:37] <Casper26> Motion for webcam
[17:38] <jpmh_> ioria: I think that the two of you have persuaded me that somehow something went wrong with the upgrade and so it is best for me to just re-install the OS - easy enough to do, we have backups of all data
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: i rather want to understand how this happened
[17:38] <ioria> jpmh_,  as you wish ... do you have problem with apt-forktracer ?
[17:38] <NickShades> Thank you Akem, casper
[17:38] <Casper26> Anytime
[17:38] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: if you do I can stick with this  - I would sort of like to , also
[17:39] <ioria> jpmh_,  do you have problem with apt-forktracer ?
[17:40] <jpmh_> ioria: and lotuspsychje no - forktrace is installed now
[17:40] <ioria> jpmh_,  run 'apt-forktracer'
[17:40] <jpmh_> remind me what you want to filter its output with
[17:40] <ioria> jpmh_,  paste the output
[17:41] <ioria> jpmh_,  on a clean system should be almost empty
[17:42] <jpmh_> ioria: the output is 609 lines
[17:42] <ioria> jpmh_,  paste the output
[17:43] <dontlook> ok I got a console on the installer, the server installer doesn't show /dev/sda so it must be coming up as something else?
[17:43] <jpmh_> ioria: sory to be so dump but how do I do that.  I'm connected to the server though a terminal - so not obvious to me how to get all 609 lines
[17:45] <ioria> jpmh_,  run 'apt-forktracer | nc termbin.com 9999'
[17:45] <jpmh_> https://termbin.com/1vhs
[17:46] <jpmh_> ioria: and while it is not pastebin - the entore 609 lines are at http://another12.jphurst.com/temp.ft.txt
[17:48] <cgi> I am creating a deb file that is not public. How do I distribute it to only certain machines?
[17:49] <ioria> jpmh_,  apt-cache policy nano  | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:50] <jpmh_> ioria: https://termbin.com/p8rh
[17:51] <ioria> jpmh_, you have focal packages installed
[17:52] <jpmh_> ioria: OK - so we have the focal kernel and focal packages, but you say U am really eoan - I have no idea what this means
[17:53] <ioria> jpmh_, that the system has been reverted at some point in the process ... i guess
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> jpmh_: maybe your terminal history or dpkg logs can enlighten what all happened?
[17:54] <jpmh_> ioria: and ... - how about doing a do-release-upgrade -d ?
[17:54] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: wahy too much happened on that server for the history still to be there
[17:55] <ioria> jpmh_, this one please :  apt-cache policy apt | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> ioria: did he mention kvm or qemu?
[18:03] <ioria> kvm
[18:03] <ioria> lotuspsychje, there's a bug ?
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> reading some stuff on upgrading from 19.10 on the 20.04 releasenotes
[18:03] <ioria> ho
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> ioria: not my candy :p https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QemuKVMMigration#Upgrade_machine_type
[18:08] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i used kvm, but never did a do-release-upgrade on it
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> weirdy case
[18:10] <ioria> yep, especially because a dru leaves some files behind  /etc/apt directory lotuspsychje
[18:10] <ioria> *in
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> ioria: i recently had a mixed kernel case like this, but the user messed with mainline a lot
[18:12] <ioria> i see
[18:17] <davido_> Can anyone suggest how to fix "Authentication error" when installing or refreshing snaps?
[18:17] <davido_> I've tried signing out and back in again.
[18:21] <x00F>  davido: sudo?
[18:21] <oerheks> davido_, can you pastebin the output when you try?
[18:27] <oerheks> yes?
[18:40] <jpmh_> lotuspsychje: and ioria I lost connection to this server and did not realze it - did you guys have any unput on my updating the sources.list file and everything seeming OK now
[18:49] <vidal72[m]> hi, is /bin symlink to /usr/bin on new installation of ubuntu 20.04?
[18:52] <akik> hi, why is it that if i umount a ext3 partition and then start fdisk on that disk where the partition is located, then quit fdisk, the partition is automatially mounted back?
[18:54] <ioria> jpmh_, is it ok ?
[18:54] <akik> it's mounted back right at the time i _start_ fdisk
[18:55] <jpmh_> ioria: as far as I can tell EVERYTHINS is NORMAL and GOOD - I took the sources list from a good 20.4 and installed it instead of the one that was there - ran apt updat, apt upgrade and all seems good
[18:55] <ioria> ok
[18:55] <frad> is gmusicbrowser no longer supported under 20.04?
[18:56] <jpmh_> ioria: not a good solution since we still do not know what went wrong oin the frst place
[18:56] <ioria> jpmh_, only the logs can tell /var/log/dist*
[18:58] <frad> if gmusicbrowser is no longer supported, what music library can I use to list 60k audio files?
[19:12] <duncan-nz> I've lost the use of my THinkPad USB Dock since upgrading to 20.04. Idea sfor what I should investigate?
[19:21] <dany666> hello people....i need help ...im in poop
[19:22] <Biessie> Random question.. Does anyone here ever dabbed into cs1.6 servers using AMXModX?
[19:23] <dany666> anyone here dealt with ..grub problems normal.mod not dound?
[19:24] <Psi-Jack> dany666: I recommend getting out of the bathroom. Quickly.
[19:24] <duncan-nz> dany666, here you just say what you're problem is, don't ask for permission to ask.
[19:25] <dany666> im sorry.....i think its been over 8 years since i used ubuntu and back then got something like "dont ask juet ask" XD
[19:26] <Psi-Jack> Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[19:26] <duncan-nz> dany666, of the many grub problems I've had I don't recognise that one. what does the old and ever wise internet search say?
[19:26] <dany666> so had an older version on my pc (ubuntu wasnt working anymore)...was doing dual boot(win7) and wantednto get rid of windows for good
[19:28] <dany666> tried the instalation...deleted everything eslse except the ntfs part with my files...picked boot picked / installer was going fine but it crashed....me not being patient shut the pc restart it and i get
[19:28] <dany666> error /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found
[19:31] <dany666> duncan-nz Found something but didnt work for me
[19:31] <dany666> duncan-nz: i dont thing anyone just thought....hmm its frozen...lets shut it down and tur it back on again
[19:33] <dany666> would apr. if someone could help...out of dual booting on windows now i cant even install Ubuntu found a blank dvd to buy very hard on a sunday
[19:35] <ioria> dany666, are you at the grub rescue > prompt ?
[19:36] <dany666> yes
[19:36] <ioria> dany666, ls
[19:37] <dany666> hd0,msdos 2,4,5,6
[19:37] <dany666> tried something earlier and it says 2 and 5 are ext2
[19:38] <ioria> dany666, and there's no '1' ?
[19:38] <dany666> so before trying to installet i basically modified everything deleted all partitions excepting the ntfs one where i had my music
[19:38] <ioria> dany666,  just one disk ?
[19:39] <dany666> yeah im not even sure anymore i thought i had two but guess not
[19:39] <ioria> dany666,  ls (hd0,msdos1)
[19:40] <dany666> no such partition
[19:40] <ioria> dany666,  ls (hd0,msdos2)
[19:40] <dany666> ext2
[19:40] <ioria> dany666,  ls (hd0,msdos3)
[19:41] <dany666> same doesnt find it
[19:41] <ioria> dany666,  ls (hd0,msdos4)
[19:41] <dany666> unknown filesystem
[19:41] <ioria> dany666,  ls (hd0,msdos5)
[19:42] <dany666> @ioria filesys. unkn.
[19:43] <ioria> dany666,  ls (hd0,msdos6)
[19:43] <dany666> ioria ext2
[19:44] <ioria> dany666,  idk, let's try : set root=(hd0,msdos2)
[19:45] <dany666> ok
[19:45] <ioria> dany666,   set prefix=(hd0,msdos2)/boot/grub
[19:45] <dany666> tried something similar last time ..maybe i didnt end it the right way
[19:45] <dany666> k did those two so far so good
[19:46] <ioria> dany666,   insmod normal
[19:47] <dany666> file .....i386-pc/normal.mod not found
[19:47] <ioria> dany666,   try the same with (hd0,msdos6)
[19:48] <dany666> hmm with 2 was boot/grubi.....mod not found
[19:48] <dany666> withbthis one its only /i365-pc/normal.mod not found
[19:50] <ioria> dany666,  3 options: Super Grub disk; Livecd ; clean install (considering that win7 is out of support)
[19:51] <dany666> i mean thats what im trying to do but it doesnt boot frok the cd which is still in...it goes straight to this grub rescue...prompt or wtv its called..
[19:51] <ioria> dany666, what release are you installing ?
[19:51] <dany666> 18.04
[19:52] <ioria> dany666, are 64 bit ?
[19:52] <dany666> yea
[19:52] <ioria> dany666, why don't oyu use a usb device ?
[19:53] <dany666> umm...dont ...have one?
[19:53] <dany666> :(
[19:53] <goddard> my logs program says I have limited acccess to my log files, it then suggests I read a help file.  I read the help file and it says I may be a user and not an "administrator".  What does this really mean and how can I solve it?
[19:54] <ioria> dany666, sy, have to leave; i suggest you burn it again
[19:54] <goddard> i get the error on gnome logs even when using sudo
[19:54] <duncan-nz> goddard, so are you opening your logs as a super user?
[19:55] <goddard> duncan-nz: no
[19:55] <goddard> i get the error on gnome logs even when using sudo
[19:55] <duncan-nz> i think that's your answer then
[19:55] <goddard> no it isn't
[19:55] <goddard> i get the error on gnome logs even when using sudo
[19:56] <duncan-nz> oh, I get it
[19:56] <goddard> :D
[19:57] <duncan-nz> goddard, what's the exact text of the error message? what does the internet suggest when searching that error?
[19:57] <goddard> say unable to read system log
[19:58] <goddard> not very helpful
[19:58] <duncan-nz> same error here
[19:58] <goddard> one previous ubuntu versions I didn't have this issue
[19:59] <duncan-nz> what version you on?
[19:59] <goddard> 20.04 now fresh install
[20:00] <duncan-nz> same here (but not fresh) https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=866171
[20:00] <goddard> i was one fedora 32 and didn't have that issue
[20:00] <goddard> on my system i upgraded from 18.10 it didn't have this issue
[20:01] <goddard> which log is the "system" log
[20:01] <goddard> "hardware" log
[20:01] <duncan-nz> right but the most recent report there is april, so maybe it's back. i'm just guessing here.
[20:01] <goddard> those are the logs that show nothing
[20:01] <goddard> journalctl shows everything
[20:02] <goddard> ya
[20:03] <duncan-nz> ... why is there a Fedora issue reported in the Debian bug tracker?
[20:03] <duncan-nz> ... oh it's a gnome bug.
[20:03] <duncan-nz> sorry I don't think I've got anything useful to add.
[20:04] <goddard> maybe to verify it is an upstream bug
[20:04] <duncan-nz> goddard, know anything about installing python modules?
[20:04] <goddard> uh ya use pip in a virtualenv
[20:06] <duncan-nz> yeah, that virtual env is where i'm tripping up i think. i'll keep reading
[20:09] <captainfantastic> Hey guys. How do I set modesetting instead of intel driver on Ubuntu? I tried deleting intel driver but it's still showing i915 with inxi -G command
[20:14] <duncan-nz> goddard, for a module not already installed I should be okay installing it right, I mean without the virtual environment?
[20:15] <duncan-nz> i just watt ot be careful upgrading the modules already in use - right?
[20:16] <goddard> yeah use a virtualenv
[20:16] <goddard> less painful
[20:17] <goddard> its simple
[20:18] <duncan-nz> ok, more reading then. cool, been meaning to rtfm for setting up a python development environment. thanks.
[20:20] <goddard> duncan-nz: its a known bug
[20:21] <goddard> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-logs/-/issues/52
[20:21] <goddard> fixed 5 days ago
[20:21] <cgi> when distributing a deb file, I want to compile my c code with single executables optimized for multiple CPU architectures - how can i do this? where can i get help for this?
[20:34] <goddard> duncan-nz: its basically 2 commands it is really easy
[20:35] <goddard> cgi: people usually use cmake
[20:40] <duncan-nz> goddard, cool, i just want to understand consequences and how users/system/env are separated. in this case i just installed the numpy module directly (i think) since an extension to blender needed it.
[20:41] <goddard> if you don't wanna use a virtualenv some popular python packages are in the repos
[20:42] <goddard> just use apt search python numpy
[20:42] <goddard> or whatever
[20:42]  * goddard off to reboot
[20:55] <alfatau> Hi, I want to install Ubuntu desktop 20.04 on a RAID1 array (mdraid), then use LVM for partitioning...
[20:56] <alfatau> ... the installer appers not allowing the choice for this custom setup. Am I wrong?
[20:58] <tomreyn> alfatau: i don't think the desktop installer supports raid, you may need to use the server installer.
[21:00] <alfatau> Ok, thank you!
[21:01] <tomreyn> alfatau: i'm just trying to confirm it give me a minute.
[21:02] <alfatau> No problem, than you!
[21:02] <goddard> how long does it usually take for ubuntu to pull in fixes from upstream?
[21:03] <tomreyn> alfatau: yes, confirmed, the desktop installer doesn't do raid
[21:04] <alfatau> Ok, anyone can confirm using server installer and selecting "Ubuntu desktop" task (tasksel) is the same as running the installation from the desktop installer?
[21:04] <tomreyn> goddard: somewhere between a few hours and indefinitely. i'm not sure a serious answer is possible.
[21:05] <goddard> tomreyn: so the process isn't automated
[21:05] <goddard> i see
[21:06] <tomreyn> goddard: it usually involves backporting fixes, so cannot be automated.
[21:06] <goddard> if you trust the source which is upstream then it could?
[21:07] <tomreyn> goddard: upstream will often just provide patches for the latest release, whereas ubuntu needs to provide patches which apply on the earlier releases which are in ubuntu, and on top of the patches already applied there.
[21:08] <tomreyn> !latest
[21:14] <|izzie> hi... sometimes when i close my laptop it goes to sleep, other times, it suspends.. when it goes to sleep, i can wake it by holding the Fn key for a couple of seconds, but the only way i can get out of suspend is by powering down.. is there another option?
[21:17] <goddard> tomreyn: looks like the flatpak and snap packages are fixed already
[21:18] <tomreyn> goddard: snaps updates may actually be fully automated.
[21:18] <tomreyn> because they are whatever is packaged, not following a general policy.
[21:19] <goddard> thats cool
[21:23] <emiel> |izzie dell xps?
[21:33] <|izzie> emiel: lenovo t420
[21:34] <|izzie> i wouldn't care, except that i found a fix for sound and if the computer goes into suspend i have to do a double reboot to get sound working again.
[21:36] <|izzie> ah, which brings a second question... what actions differentiate between sleep and suspend... it seems all i do is shut the laptop andthe computer makes a random decison
[21:39] <fl0_id> |izzie sleep is just a diff name for suspend
[21:39] <fl0_id> the other thing is hibernation
[21:39] <fl0_id> anyone got any idea what the best way to install official docker on focal fossa is?
[21:39] <fl0_id> distributed docker does weird things
[21:45] <|izzie> fl0_id: thanks, i meant hib... ah, you read my mind...
[21:48] <fl0_id> there might be rules set dep on how low battery is etc... not sure where though
[21:50] <|izzie> fl0_id: thanks fro the suggestion, but mostly it's always plugged in.
[21:51] <fl0_id> which ubuntu flavour?
[21:55] <dany666> hi just did a fresh install on a Lenovo pc....did the automatic instal where i formatted my whole hdd ...instalation went perfect...pull thedvd...hit enter for reboot and i get error 1962
[21:55] <Psi-Jack> Hazelnut!
[21:55] <erts> Hi there, I have a device with a microsd card reader, and the reader seems to be detected, but when I insert an sd card (or even if I boot with one inserted), it's not detected by the system. All I get is "mmc1: SDHCI controller on ACPI [80860F14:01] using ADMA" on boot and that's it. I know it's compatible with Linux because on Fedora (versions 30 and 31 at least) it's working flawlessly. I'm on 20.04 but also tried 18.04 with HWE. Any ideas? Thanks!
[21:56] <oerheks> dany666, set boot to the hdd again?
[21:57] <dany666> it doesnt do anything...without anything in the rom..i even remove the rom and still get the error
[21:57] <dany666> googled around and keep finding something to set  bios to something but that option does not exist
[21:59] <usr123> I upgraded from 18.04 to 20.04 and brave stopped working, after a few seconds I see the "Aww, Snap!" screen
[21:59] <usr123> also my trackpad suddenly stops working and works fine after rebooting
[22:01] <hegemoOn> hello
[22:01] <oerheks> ERROR 1962 Lenovo – No Operating System Found .. so it is a bios setting to the right hdd/uefi perhaps?
[22:01] <hegemoOn> i have some difficulties to connect riscv ucontroller
[22:01] <hegemoOn> with focal
[22:02] <fl0_id> hegemoOn wrong chnannel imo
[22:02] <fl0_id> usr123 reinstall brave?
[22:02] <hegemoOn> fl0_id:i dont think
[22:02] <fl0_id> dany666 try disabling secure boot?
[22:02] <hegemoOn> was working great with 18.02
[22:03] <hegemoOn> since upgrade both my riscV longan nano are not able to be detected
[22:03] <fl0_id> hegemoOn it's very specialized. riscv people probably can help you better.
[22:03] <dany666> oerheks  i have no idea what just happened...was in the live cd cuz i wanted to try something....i reboot try f1 f2 f 12 and cant even get intio bios what the hell
[22:03] <usr123> fl0_id, correct me if I'm wrong, sudo apt-get purge brave-browser && sudo apt-get autoremove and then install brave?
[22:04] <fl0_id> usr123 you don't need autoremove iirc
[22:05] <fl0_id> try launching from terminal if there is a useful message. check if repo for brave is set properly for focal
[22:05] <cgi> All machines ubuntu 18.04lts - I've a key pair that  I have copied on two machines X and Y (they try to clone a repo from Z). When I use git clone from one machine - it works. When I use it from another maching, it does not. Any ideas on what could be wrong?
[22:06] <fl0_id> cgi try to connect with ssh and -vvv and check what the difference is
[22:06] <cgi> Permission denied (publickey). is what i am getting
[22:07] <|izzie> fl0_id: NAME="Ubuntu"
[22:07] <|izzie> VERSION="18.04.4 LTS (Bionic Beaver)"
[22:07] <fl0_id> one reason can be one machine has too many other keys already, they get tried first, then the proper one cannot be tried cause too many tries
[22:07] <cgi> fl0_id, k - I'm root on both X and Y - when I clone, I get the same error now. But in a docker container where i mount the .ssh keys, one works, the other does not. Interesting problem.
[22:07] <fl0_id> |izzie i meant like kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu... cause depending on that other settings etc might apply
[22:08] <fl0_id> cgi if you mount the ssh keys, the same applies, probably
[22:09] <|izzie> ubuntu
[22:09] <fl0_id> |izzie do battery settings in gnome have sth about htat? cannot check atm
[22:11] <dany666> anyone have any idea whats the issue with lenovos and error 1962
[22:12] <dany666> did a fresh install 18.04 and it gives the error
[22:14] <fl0_id> dany666 which lenovo?
[22:14] <fl0_id> it matters
[22:14] <dany666> h430
[22:17] <dany666> i know its old i see here bios if from 2012
[22:17] <fl0_id> dany666 I would also suggest changing boot mode which you say is not there. maybe you need to set to advanced mode before it is shown
[22:18] <dany666> how do i do that....change it to advanced?
[22:18] <fl0_id> see where it says advanced mode in bios and change it
[22:19] <dany666> there is an Advanced tab but Execute Disable Bit, Intel speedstep tech, intel virtualization and Core multi processong are all enabled
[22:24] <fl0_id> dany666 none of those matter for this. dunno, maybe make a picture of all the bios screens
[22:25] <fl0_id> or is there a startup tab?
[22:25] <dany666> i cant even get into bios sometimes it gets straight to the error even thk i push f12 ,1 and 2
[22:26] <fl0_id> dany666 if you have fast boot enabled and just reboot, that can be normal, the time to press will be very short
[22:28] <dany666> https://ibb.co/s6J4NWP
[22:29] <dany666> heres a link
[22:29] <dany666> https://ibb.co/s6J4NWP
[22:34] <dany666> a little help pls fresh installed ubuntu 18.04 on a "old" lenovo and getting 1962 error...i dont have many options in the bios
[22:34] <dany666> had 16.04 installed before that and had no problem
[22:36] <fl0_id> dany666 just wondering, why did you install 18.04 now when 20.04 just came out?
[22:37] <dany666> i googled the sys req and i have only 2 g ram and bad proc
[22:37] <dany666> that was the closest and it has lts till 2023
[22:38] <Munsko> If u have low specs, you could try Lubuntu,Kubuntu or Xubuntu
[22:38] <Munsko> They have versions that are supported
[22:38] <dany666> yeah but i did a fresh install with no problems at all
[22:38] <Munsko> And are oriented to low specs
[22:38] <dany666> and after first reboot i get this
[22:39] <dany666> 1962
[22:39] <fl0_id> like I said, doesn't matter if it worked before, show what bios options you have
[22:39] <Munsko> https://askubuntu.com/questions/796255/error-1962-no-operating-system-found
[22:39] <Munsko> Check that
[22:39] <dany666> i did https://ibb.co/s6J4NWP
[22:39] <Munsko> Looks like a corruped instalation or something
[22:40] <fl0_id> dany666 what does it show on startup and security?
[22:41] <Munsko> In the topic they say: check if you have your architecture version(if u are x32 dont use 64), try disable safety mode on bios
[22:41] <slyrus_> Upon updating to 20.04 I'm having DNS issues. I have a local bind9 server running (should I remove that?) and things seem to work, except for searches looking up my local domain.
[22:41] <Munsko> dany666, Looks like architecture problem
[22:41] <slyrus_> I can't even seem to find where my local domain is specified, but NetworkManager knows about it somehow.
[22:41] <dany666> i can go to the order of the devices and outside is Quick boot, rapid boot(cant disable), boot up num lock status, keyboardless operation
[22:42] <RoseBus> i accidently stopped my vim job with crtl+z trying to 'undo' like an idiot
[22:42] <Munsko> You know if u processor is x32 or x64?
[22:42] <slyrus_> To compound the problem, I have multiple network interface cards and only want to use one of them. If I use them all, my DNS problems go away.
[22:42] <RoseBus> how can i get my unsaved work bacK?
[22:42] <dany666> security just admin. pass .. power on pass. set adm. pass and set power on passs
[22:42] <Munsko> dany666, check your processor specifications
[22:43] <dany666> sys summary
[22:43] <RoseBus> who i got it back with 'fg'
[22:43] <fl0_id> slyrus_ this might be related to systemd changes. but either way, if you do not really really need bind9, def remove it
[22:43] <dany666> intel celeron cpu g530 @ 2.40
[22:44] <Munsko> Architecture?
[22:44] <Munsko> Try check in bios what says(it could be x32, 64 or says x86)
[22:44] <Munsko> I think the problem should be that your processor is x32, and new ubuntu OS are x64
[22:45] <dany666> it doesnt say...its dual core
[22:45] <Munsko> Ok, check the iso that you used
[22:45] <dany666> its x64
[22:45] <Munsko> dany666, the iso or th eprocessor is 64?
[22:46] <dany666> no the dvd image
[22:46] <Munsko> oh
[22:46] <Munsko> Theres th eproblem
[22:46] <Munsko> You cant use x64 distros in x32 pc
[22:46] <dany666> i dont honestly know i had win7 x64 so...im thinkijng its x64
[22:46] <Munsko> It just dont recognize it
[22:47] <dany666> well maybe thats it
[22:47] <Munsko> Yes
[22:47] <dany666> too bad i erased the windows side
[22:47] <Munsko> You need install other one
[22:47] <Munsko> Oh, what a pity
[22:48] <Munsko> You have another pc?
[22:48] <Munsko> to put in a usb the so
[22:48] <Munsko> os*
[22:48] <Munsko> https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads ; https://lubuntu.net/downloads/
[22:48] <dany666> not really no
[22:48] <Munsko> You have some ISO that are 18.04 there
[22:49] <Munsko> THe problem is burn it somewhere
[22:49] <fl0_id> google says g530 is 64 bit. it's a low end chip but that doesn't matter
[22:49] <dany666> yeah ill search for them......its late...anyway thank you...deleted most of my music anyway meh
[22:50] <Munsko> fl0_id, you are right
[22:50] <Munsko> Try reinstall the OS
[22:50] <Munsko> Maybe it works
[22:50] <dany666> so you say its x64 or?
[22:50] <Munsko> The processor is x64
[22:50] <Munsko> That says Intel
[22:51] <Munsko> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/53414/intel-celeron-processor-g530-2m-cache-2-40-ghz.html
[22:51] <fl0_id> yeah. but wiht such low ram I would def use 32...
[22:51] <slyrus_> fl0_id: Ok, one variable removed. bind9 is now gone. Problem persists. systemd-resolve --status knows my DNS domain, but I'm not sure how.
[22:51] <Munsko> fl0_id,  he could try install that one and then change to x32 distro
[22:51] <fl0_id> yeah
[22:51] <Munsko> Or just install one flavour of ubuntu
[22:52] <Munsko> Im running lubuntu with only 500mb at startup
[22:52] <Munsko> And its x64
[22:52] <Munsko> dany666,  try install again
[22:52] <dany666> ok ill try it.....thank you for the help guys see you
[22:52] <Munsko> If u have the opportunity, try install having the internet conection avisable
[22:53] <Munsko> Sometimes the setup need some files
[22:53] <dany666> it always was
[22:53] <fl0_id> slyrus_ /etc/systemd/resolved.conf /etc/sytemd/resolved/* or maybe it knows form your router
[22:53] <Munsko> Nice, so, good luck
[22:55] <slyrus_> fl0_id: no, not there. possible, but unlikely it knows it form the router. But why would DNS only fail for queries to that domain?
[22:57] <blahboybaz> I have a problem with my audio. Sometimes the volumen will not go up enough to hear it over other sounds at the time - chewing something crunchy being one example  ;).   I tried alsa mixer but I dont' think it's supposed to look or behave the way it is. https://imgur.com/yGrhlUg
[22:57] <blahboybaz> * is that what alsamixer is supposed to look / act like? And is there a soln for my problem?
[23:10] <oerheks> blahboybaz, hit F6; select soundcard, and see
[23:38] <Biessie> finally updated my ubuntu to 20.04!
[23:38] <bigongst> Hi folks, I'm wondering if anyone would mind spending a little time with me correcting some networking issues I'm experiencing on 20.04 in VMWare Workstation.
[23:38] <Biessie> worked well.
[23:39] <bacarrdy> Hello, May be some one knows any tool to store with possibility to review traffic info like src, dst, port, proto? i`m using nfsen to collect from net devices, so want to do same, but for local interface and now i`m reading manuals and cant find collector for local interface for nfsen so i think it doesnt support it, so may be anyone can advice?
[23:41] <bigongst> bacarrdy - Sounds like a job for Wireshark perhaps.
[23:47] <orlock> 20.04 seems to be mussing some python modules for python 2
[23:49] <Munsko> orlock,  i think that python is in 3.6 or something like that
[23:50] <Munsko> maybe they are deprecated or dont hav emore support
[23:51] <orlock> Which seems weird, as apt-get install python automatically installs python2
[23:52] <Munsko> Well, i have python3 in my repositories
[23:52] <Munsko> The python2 is there too
[23:53] <Munsko> But looks like have less packages
[23:53] <Munsko> Try find if ur package is in pyhton 3
[23:54] <orlock> It is, but right now i'd rather just use  my working code, and the python 2-3 translator doesn't fix my serial issues
[23:55] <orlock> I'll just try pip
[23:56] <Munsko> Try search it on the ubuntu page
[23:56] <Munsko> Maybe you find the package
[23:56] <Munsko> And install it manually
[23:56] <Munsko> (use the official repository list)
[23:57] <Munsko> https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[23:58] <slyrus_> Why would I end up with two different nameserver/search sections in my /etc/resolv.conf file? One tells me that it is coming from resolvconf, and one from NetworkManager. Seems like I only need one or the other.
[23:59] <UNIm95> Hi. I found strange bug with video cards  in 20.04. If display is with Polaris|Oland video  card is set to primary, video card works in powersave mode.
[23:59] <UNIm95> Where and how i should report this bug?
[23:59] <Bashing-om> !bug | UNIm95