[00:00] <UNIm95> Bashing-om: But which packet is affected? Xorg?
[00:02] <Bashing-om> UNIm95: I would expect xorg to be acceptable -  else the triage team will correct.
[00:17] <RoseBus> what's the difference between available memory and free memory
[00:19] <metbsd> it takes long time to install like half an hour
[00:19] <metbsd> i dont know what went wrong
[00:22] <Bashing-om> !ram
[00:22] <Bashing-om> RoseBus: ^^ also: A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html
[00:23] <metbsd> what a piece of crap is ubuntu
[00:23] <Psi-Jack> Troll elsewhere?
[00:23] <metbsd> it got stucked at installation
[00:24] <metbsd> it says cron cd / run parts --report cron hourly
[00:24] <metbsd> forever
[00:25] <metbsd> lenovo y530
[00:26] <timypcr> https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops-Knowledge-Base/Installing-Ubuntu-on-the-Legion-Y530/ta-p/4187251
[00:27] <metbsd> so its not supported?
[00:27] <metbsd> 20.02something is what i have now
[00:28] <metbsd> is this a joke
[00:29] <timypcr> out of the box it assume it's only going to need to install windows and the bios presets are in place to accommodate  a win 10 install only from the way I'm reading it
[00:29] <timypcr> Did you buy it to run ubuntu on it or was this an after thought
[00:31] <timypcr> not sure your Hardware confiration but based on the price range I'm seeing you could have found laptop on system76.com that alliened with its pricing model and just have a laptop shipped direct to you with Ubuntu pre-installed
[00:32] <timypcr> plus all those systems support windows 10 in case you needed to switch for what ever reason https://system76.com/laptops
[00:32] <metbsd> no it came with windows 10 x64 home
[00:32] <timypcr> I know
[00:32] <metbsd> an after thought
[00:32] <timypcr> I was wondering if you purchase it just to install Ubuntu on it?
[00:32] <metbsd> any linux works on this laptop at all
[00:32] <timypcr> got yea
[00:33] <timypcr> you have to do some research
[00:34] <timypcr> but I would think that any distro you tried would have the same problem unless you changed the settings suggested in the article I posted.
[00:35] <metbsd> it's the kernel problem?
[00:35] <metbsd> the laptop too new?
[00:35] <timypcr> metbsd if you read it, it does not say its not supported or wont work at all you just have to jump though hoops to get it working
[00:35] <timypcr> secure boot
[00:36] <timypcr> this is not uncommon on laptops which pretty much all shop with EFI firmware these days rather than the traditional bios - this all came about once OEMs started shipping win 10
[00:36] <metbsd> bios setting?
[00:37] <metbsd> i got it on good deal
[00:37] <Bashing-om> !uefi | metbsd
[00:37] <timypcr> your laptop uses EFI not bios
[00:37] <timypcr> read a book https://www.howtogeek.com/56958/htg-explains-how-uefi-will-replace-the-bios/
[00:38] <metbsd> so i need a linux uefi?
[00:38] <timypcr> no you need to read the instructions I sent you if you want to install linux
[00:39] <timypcr> did you read it https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Gaming-Laptops-Knowledge-Base/Installing-Ubuntu-on-the-Legion-Y530/ta-p/4187251 ?
[00:39] <timypcr> read it / follow it step by step and if you run into any problems check back in with us
[00:40] <metbsd> do you think other distro will work?
[00:40] <timypcr> if you follow those instructions yes
[00:41] <metbsd> but i need to dual boot. the page said i will lose existing os
[00:41] <timypcr> than install windows first
[00:42] <timypcr> accutally the ubuntun unstall does or use to have a method that would shrink the windows partition
[00:42] <metbsd> i already created 30gb ssd for it
[00:42] <timypcr> one sec
[00:43] <metbsd> looks like i already disabled secure boot
[00:44] <timypcr> https://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-dual-boot-mode-windows/
[00:46] <timypcr> I would backup / clone your hard drive before proceeding but follow the instucations in the first post about adjusting secure boot any any other UEFI settings and than follow the dualboot instructions
[00:47] <timypcr> but backup, backup, backup this is your first time dual booting and following / reading instructions does not seem to be your main competency
[00:49] <timypcr> sometimes those secure boot options are under different menus but the first forum post I provided was written specifically for your model laptop.
[00:49] <timypcr> Its really not hard to dual boot windows with ubuntu there are options if you use the live boot option to do so
[00:50] <timypcr> but again if you have anything of importance on that laptop or don't feel like reinstalling windows 10 backup the system!
[00:50] <timypcr> best to clone it if you have room some are to store the image
[01:01] <linelevel> Hello! I just upgraded a server to Ubuntu 20.04. Now, when I ssh in to the server, it says "403 packages can be updated.", but when I run `sudo apt update`, it says "All packages are up to date." -- Any idea what's going on?
[01:02] <linelevel>  In case it's relevant, the first `do-release-upgrade` brought from from 16.04 -> 19.10, and it failed the first time so I had to do some weird stuff to get it back on track. Then, I ran `do-release-upgrade` again to get from 19.10 -> 20.04, with no issues.
[01:05] <metbsd> timypcr: im using windows image bacup
[01:06] <linelevel> The command I ran that got things back on track after my dist upgrade failed was `sudo apt-get --reinstall dselect-upgrade`
[01:06] <linelevel> So that may be related to my current problem.
[01:14] <Bashing-om> linelevel: In ecah instance what are you booting into: lsb_release -a ?
[01:24] <linelevel> Bashing-om: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS - is there another piece of info you're looking for?
[01:25] <linelevel> Oh, I understand why you're asking. The dist upgrade to 20.04 was successful.
[01:26] <Bashing-om> linelevel: linelevel The thought I had was that you had a dual boot situation - booting different installs. what results ' sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?
[01:26] <linelevel> Bashing-om: I'm booting into an AWS EC2 instance.
[01:26] <linelevel> SSH'ing into, I mean
[01:26] <linelevel> That is the server in question.
[01:27] <Bashing-om> linelevel: Sorry - no experiemce there - will have to await those with greater skills than I :(
[01:28] <linelevel> I don't think the underlying cloud infrastructure is relevant to this issue, but no problem.
[01:29] <linelevel> Bashing-om: Regarding your earlier message: `sudo apt -f install` gives what you would expect if everything is up-to-date (0 everything), and `sudo dpkg -C` exited with no output.
[01:29] <Bashing-om> linelevel: Sure that you know better here than I :D
[01:31] <linelevel> I still need to finish re-enabling the apt sources that were disabled during the dist upgrade, so I guess I'll see where I'm at after doing that.
[01:33] <Bashing-om> linelevel: PPAs will require verifying that there is support in 20.04.
[01:45] <vihari> um, hey guys i broke ubuntu
[01:46] <vihari> laptop died while it was on... now won't boot right
[01:47] <Munsko> vihari, it doesnt turn on(and see the splash image) or just dont start ubuntu?
[01:48] <vihari> it goes to black screen, with a blinking curson Munsko
[01:48] <Munsko> But u see the image of the mark of the pc?
[01:48] <vihari> yeah the lenovo logo shows
[01:48] <Munsko> Nice
[01:48] <vihari> and a live usb boots fine
[01:49] <Munsko> So the problem is just grub
[01:49] <Munsko> Your grub dont load
[01:49] <Munsko> Thats a clue
[01:49] <vihari> ah
[01:49] <vihari> so repair grub
[01:49] <vihari> maybe
[01:49] <Munsko> Try search about it, i dont have idea of that
[01:49] <Munsko> sorry
[01:49] <Munsko> askubuntu.com
[01:49] <Munsko> You can find info about that there
[01:55] <hemebond> Can someone please explain to me how the dependency "chromium-browser (>= 4.0.203.0~)" maps to the package version "Package: chromium-browser (81.0.4044.138-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 and others)"?
[02:02] <vihari> boot-repair doesn't seem to do the trick...
[02:04] <vihari> i kind of think checking the disk for errors might make sense
[02:04] <vihari> but that sounds like it would take a while
[02:04] <Munsko> vihari, i dont think that the problem is disk
[02:04] <Munsko> Looks more like you grub got corrupted
[02:04] <Munsko> You cant solve that with the disk check i think
[02:05] <Munsko> If you have the pendrive and dont waste time, log in the livecd
[02:05] <vihari> well i did use boot repair from the live usb
[02:05] <Munsko> dont want waste time*
[02:05] <Munsko> you could backup your files
[02:05] <vihari> so it reinstalled grub
[02:05] <Munsko> and worked?
[02:06] <vihari> well... it succeeded but it still wont boot
[02:06] <Munsko> oh
[02:06] <Munsko> You can enter in safe mode either?
[02:06] <Munsko> cant*
[02:06] <vihari> there isn't a safe mode option... that i can see
[02:06] <Munsko> Oh, nvm
[02:06] <Munsko> I thought you booted it sucefully
[02:07] <Munsko> As i was saying
[02:07] <Munsko> if u have the livecd and dont want to waste time
[02:07] <vihari> lemme back up to 5.03 kernel...
[02:07] <Munsko> You could try backup and formate
[02:07] <vihari> or whatever it is...
[02:07] <Munsko> format*
[02:07] <vihari> yeah that sounds like tons of fun O.o
[02:07] <Munsko> It will not solve the problem per se
[02:08] <Munsko> But you will be able to enter again on ubuntu
[02:08] <Munsko> And use it
[02:08] <vihari> i would like to save the system if possible
[02:08] <Munsko> oh, i see
[02:08] <Munsko> It will be difficult i think, need to find exactly what is the problem
[02:11] <Munsko> good luck
[02:11] <vihari> yeah, it's right after an upgrade to 20.04 too, which makes the potential problems go up
[02:17] <linelevel> Bashing-om: I think you're right. 20.04 might just be too new.
[02:19] <Bashing-om> linelevel: !ppa | linelevel Thing is, PPAs are "personal" and maintained by such
[02:20] <Bashing-om> !ppa | linelevel
[02:20] <Bashing-om> vihari: Can you boot as far as the login screen ?
[02:21] <linelevel> Bashing-om: Yeah, I'm not blaming Canonical. I meant that because of how new 20.04 is, some of the PPAs I'm using haven't released support yet.
[02:21] <vihari> Bashing-om, sadly no
[02:21] <vihari> would like some verbose output
[02:22] <vihari> as to what is happening... i thought removing quiet from boot parameters would do that
[02:22] <Bashing-om> linelevel: :D As 20.04 is LTS there is hope that they will be worked over at some point.
[02:27] <Bashing-om> vihari: Can you now boot to the grub menu ? Maybe here we can boot you to terminal ?
[02:39] <nick__> Hi - I was wondering if someone was available to help me with a problem?
[02:39] <Bashing-om> !ask | nick__
[02:40] <nick__> I am having problems with tearing/not refreshing on my screen Ubuntu 20.04
[02:41] <nick__> when I load a rtsp stream in vlc I get a blank screen and when I load a VM in virtualbox I get screen tearing in the VM
[02:41] <nick__> Ive tried installing the real NVidia driver 440 but no go
[02:42] <nick__> and I installed Cinnamon just in case it was the WM but that didn't work either
[02:45] <vihari> oh, Bashing-om, i can get into the grub menu
[02:45] <vihari> but so far nothing to do for it
[02:47] <nick__> oh all in one line - I am having problems with tearing/not refreshing on my screen Ubuntu 20.04. when I load a rtsp stream in vlc I get a blank screen and when I load a VM in virtualbox I get screen tearing in the VM. Ive tried installing the real NVidia driver 440 but no go and I installed Cinnamon just in case it was the WM but that didn't work either. Any help appreciated.
[02:47] <Bashing-om> vihari: Try and see what results with adding the boot parameter " systemd.unit=multi-user.target " - replacing quiet splash with this term.
[02:48] <vihari> k
[02:54] <vihari> well Bashing-om, that seems to have not worked
[02:58] <Bashing-om> vihari: Now we have something to work from :) Now let's see what we can find out - ' cat var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' . The result is a URL back in terminal - pass that link back here so we see that log file.
[02:59] <vihari> wait Bashing-om, i would have to boot from a live usb on that computer and do all that
[03:00] <Bashing-om> vihari: NO - we wqant to boot the problematic install - to grub menu and substitute the boot parameter.
[03:05] <oct4v1a> Hi All, I have a thinkpad with external VGA monitor connection. I have been using this same setup with an old 1280x1024 monitor for a while, even earlier today. For some reason now it won't enable. I see it in the gui display manager and xrandr, but tryinng to enable gives: xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed ; what can I try to fix this?
[03:07] <Bashing-om> oct4v1a: Have you ruled our loose connections or bent pins ?
[03:08] <oct4v1a> I don't have any other VGA machines here to test with, but the pins look fine, and it has not really been moved at all.
[03:13] <Bashing-om> oct4v1a: As a poke ' xrandr --listproviders ' give any hints ?
[03:14] <oct4v1a> I am not sure exactly how to interpret it: https://bpa.st/XK2A
[03:20] <davido_> Does this channel discuss issues with the Snap system, or is that elsewhere?
[03:21] <Bashing-om> davido_: Dpends on the situationl there is also:
[03:22] <Bashing-om> !snappy | davido_
[03:22] <Fevix> Laptop wifi not turning back on when opened. Occasionally, Airplane Mode will be enabled, but usually it's just the wifi remains turned off
[03:23] <davido_> My situation is that when I try to snap refresh or snap install I get invalid credentials
[03:23] <davido_> If I snap login, and enter my credentials, it says 'Login successful', but a subsequent snap refresh fails with the same message.
[03:24] <Bashing-om> davido_: I can not help you there - perhaps others in the channel can assist.
[03:26] <vihari> oh Bashing-om https://termbin.com/xdlr
[03:27] <vihari> i was able to boot into terminal with the boot parameter "3"
[03:28] <Bashing-om> vihari: Yay - looking ^ .
[03:32] <Bashing-om> vihari: Yukkie " nsupported discrete card vendor: 10de" see what we can find out from ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ' ( is th4e card turned off in the firmware ??) ?
[03:35] <vihari> says the kernel driver 'nvidia' is in use
[03:35] <vihari> Bashing-om,
[03:36] <Bashing-om> vihari: Log says there are 2 cards - we are looking for that other graphic's card that appears non-functional.
[03:37] <vihari> ohhh... this might be something about me messing with the graphics drivers and optimus hybrid stuff
[03:37] <Fevix> Laptop wifi not turning back on when opened. Occasionally, Airplane Mode will be enabled, but usually it's just the wifi remains turned off
[03:39] <Bashing-om> vihari: Yup - I can accept that the Intel driver is messed up.
[03:40] <vihari> hmmm, how to revert?
[03:41] <Bashing-om> vihari: see what we can find out - termbin ' sudo slhw -C display ' please.
[03:43] <vihari> slhw command not found
[03:44] <vihari> hehe oh ls
[03:44] <vihari> https://termbin.com/wic0
[03:44] <Bashing-om> vihari: s/b ' lshw -C display ' :( .. tired .
[03:44] <vihari> hehe you are a legend
[03:47] <Bashing-om> vihari: Ouch on me - twin Nvidia cards - no experience here at all, no idea of a best approach. I was not aware even that we supported twin cards.
[03:47] <vihari> oh Bashing-om i think i tried using optimus-manager on an ubuntu install
[03:48] <vihari> when the documentation clearly seems to suggest only arch based are supported currently
[03:49] <Bashing-om> vihari: Perhaps others here can advise - Never been there, never done that myself :D
[03:50] <vihari> you have narrowed it down
[03:51] <Bashing-om> vihari: Well. we know now is not a grub nor a kernel issue.
[03:54] <vihari> yeah how to fix the mess i made now
[03:55] <Bashing-om> vihari: For my info - did you ever have ubuntu working with twin Nvidia cards ?
[03:57] <nick__> fyi i am running dual nvidia 1080s so yes it does work
[03:58] <vihari> Bashing-om, i thought i did
[03:58] <Bashing-om> nick__: Thanks ! We (ubuntu) make progress :D
[04:00] <nick__> hey bashing is there a way i can check which files got upgraded (so i can find the culprit of this issue)
[04:02] <Bashing-om> nick__: nick__ see: /var/log/dpkg.log .
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Out of time guys - gots to go :(
[04:04] <funyun> hi. i was moving files and my server froze. when i try to reboot i am taken to aptio setup utility. my nvme drive is not being recognized. someone told me my filesystem got screwed up when i was moving files. now i have created a flash drive with a new ubuntu install. can anyone help me fix my nvme drive from this new ubuntu boot drive?
[04:07] <nick__> funyun - the first issue you have is if you have GPT or MBR
[04:08] <nick__> do you know which one it was?
[04:10] <funyun> nick__: no
[04:10] <nick__> ok that may be an issue - can you boot from the usb?
[04:10] <funyun> Yes
[04:11] <nick__> ok can you open a terminal?
[04:11] <funyun> Yes
[04:11] <nick__> cool
[04:11] <nick__> have you installed gparted?
[04:11] <nick__> sudo apt install gparted
[04:14] <funyun> nick__: sorry for the delay. after a restart, now i'm having issues booting into the usb
[04:15] <funyun> i think it's loading now. just very slow
[04:15] <nick__> ok
[04:18] <funyun> nick__: gparted is installed
[04:19] <nick__> cool so type: sudo gparted
[04:19] <nick__> and you should see all the drives
[04:19] <nick__> on the top right are the physical disks nvme etc
[04:20] <nick__> mine is /dev/nvme0n1
[04:20] <funyun> only shows me one drive in the top right
[04:20] <funyun> current usb drive
[04:20] <nick__> how many do you have?
[04:20] <funyun> this + the nvme
[04:20] <nick__> hmm
[04:20] <nick__> ok select the nvme
[04:21] <nick__> can you see the partitions on it?
[04:21] <funyun> only option for me is /dev/sda
[04:21] <funyun> nvme isn't showing up
[04:22] <nick__> and /dev/sda is the usb?
[04:22] <funyun> yes
[04:22] <nick__> damn
[04:22] <nick__> quit gparted please
[04:22] <funyun> done
[04:24] <nick__> type: dmesg |grep -i mount
[04:24] <nick__> in the terminal please
[04:24] <nick__> can you see the nvme mounting point?
[04:26] <cgi>  E: Unable to locate package curl -> apt-get install -y curl - anyone knows whats wrong?
[04:27] <cgi> perhaps a missing apt update - checking
[04:27] <nick__> yep could be it cgi
[04:44] <funyun> nick__: sorry. i got disconnected
[04:44] <funyun> still around?
[05:00] <clarkk> PLEASE would someone, ANYONE, who is running Ubuntu 18.04, tell me whether your notification panel looks like this, with the notifications truncated so there's no way to see the full message?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/eulcao73yuqitox/Menu_471.png?dl=0
[05:06] <funyun> hi. i was moving files and my server froze. when i try to reboot i am taken to aptio setup utility. my nvme drive is not being recognized. someone told me my filesystem got screwed up when i was moving files. now i have created a flash drive with a new ubuntu install. can anyone help me fix my nvme drive from this new ubuntu boot drive?
[05:09] <BlueShark_> clarkk: that looks ugly as fuck.
[05:09] <nick__> hey funyun - yep back
[05:09] <clarkk> BlueShark_, agreed.  Do you have an 18.04 system?
[05:09] <BlueShark_> Yes.
[05:10] <clarkk> in what way is mine and yours different?
[05:13] <BlueShark_> clarkk: I use Ubuntu MATE.
[05:13] <BlueShark_> Much prefer that over GNOME.
[05:15] <funyun> nick__: hey
[05:16] <funyun> the last message i've seen of your was to close gparted
[05:18] <clarkk> BlueShark_, ok, thanks
[05:18] <sorcerer> how do i make a NTFS hard drive accessible to all users and not just the user who mounted it?
[05:19] <clarkk> PLEASE would someone, who is running Ubuntu 18.04 with Gnome, tell me whether your notification panel looks like this, with the notifications truncated so there's no way to see the full message?  https://www.dropbox.com/s/eulcao73yuqitox/Menu_471.png?dl=0
[05:33] <bracham> clarkk: does it show the rest of the notification if you hover over it with the mouse?
[05:34] <clarkk> bracham, that would be a good solution, but sadly a tooltip does not appear showing the whole message, no
[05:52] <ejr> after installing a program with snap, can i delete the "snap" folder with its content, which was created after the installation of the program?
[06:01] <kaleido> ejr: snap remove?
[06:05] <ejr> kaleido: from what i understand, that would remove the installed package. i just want to get rid of the snap folder in my home folder, not remove the programs
[06:06] <totalnoob> Anyone have any clue why the GNOME extension 'System Monitor' is enabled, but doesn't show up in my tool bar? I installed the dependencies and it shows that it's enabled.
[06:07] <totalnoob> Actually, it's not enabled and doesn't let me enable it, but I can go into its settings?
[06:12] <ThinkT510> ejr: why?
[06:13] <ejr> ThinkT210: i dont want it to be in my home folder, it bothers me there.
[06:15] <ThinkT510> ejr: the short answer is no. if you want snaps installed then that is where they go
[06:16] <wajideus> I think the package maintainers screwed up x11proto-dev
[06:17] <wajideus> I've spent the last hour trying to compile xorg-server, and it can't find X11/X.h
[06:18] <wajideus> google search says it's supposed to be in xproto, which doesn't exist on ubuntu. there's only x11proto
[06:19] <wajideus> I've installed pretty much any relevant X11 dev package I could find in apt-cache trying to find this file to no avail
[06:19] <jbg> I need to install libnvidia-gl-418, but the package in the official repo actually installs the v430 library. there is a PPA called graphics-drivers which has a libnvidia-gl-418 package that really does install v418, but apt seems to choose the official package of the same name instead of the one from the PPA. how can i force the one from the PPA to be installed?
[06:20] <ThinkT510> !pin | jbg
[06:21] <ejr> not being able to have the snap folder anywhere i want to seems kind of retarted to me, but oh well...
[06:21] <jbg> i know about pinning, didn't realise it could be used for which repo it comes from as well as which version. cool, thanks!
[06:23] <bracham> clarkk, i'm running 20.04 with gnome now, and i'm not sure how notifications show up. however, i seem to recall that i had the same issue with 18.04 that you're saying. it was annoying at times.
[06:23] <wajideus> anyone have any clue which package X11/X.h is in?
[06:25] <ejr> actually, i will just use that annoyance as an incentive to uninstall the package i had installed with snap (chromium) and use the OBS repo for ungoogled-chromium instead. seems more worthwhile in any case, and then i can get rid of snap entirely.
[06:26] <ocean> wajideus: dpkg -S X.h (it says x11proto-dev)
[06:27] <wajideus> *sigh* so I guess the package is broken then...
[06:27] <wajideus> thanks anyway tho, ocean
[06:27] <ocean> wajideus: broken?
[06:27] <wajideus> yeah. I've already installed x11proto-dev
[06:29] <clarkk> bracham, thanks for the feedback.  Is anyone else running 18.04 to confirm they see the same?
[06:31] <makara> hi. Any help with this https://serverfault.com/questions/1017577/profile-d-script-permission-denied
[06:46] <ThinkT510> wajideus: why are you trying to compile xorg-server?
[06:48] <wajideus> @ThinkT510 I'm building custom linux distro for learning purposes
[06:51] <ThinkT510> wajideus: tried looking into linux from scratch?
[06:52] <jbg> i think there's something i don't understand about PPAs. in the list of packages at https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa there is `nvidia-graphics-drivers-418`, but running `add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && apt -y update && apt -y install nvidia-graphics-drivers-418` fails with "E: Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-418"
[06:53] <wajideus> yeah. what I'm doing right now is a suckless base build on musl
[06:53] <wajideus> so lfs isn't going to work for what I'm doing
[06:57] <ThinkT510> wajideus: while it is off-topic here might i suggest void linux as a better starting place than ubuntu, they provide packages with musl
[06:57] <ducasse> jbg: 418 seems to only be available for <=19..04
[06:57] <wajideus> I actually have void linux installed on my 3rd laptop :p
[06:59] <jbg> ducasse: ah, ok, thanks. how did you determine that?
[07:00] <ducasse> jbg: i looked at the list of packages
[07:01] <jbg> what does the one with version `418.74-0ubuntu1` with no ubuntu version in the version string mean?
[07:01] <iKarus987> guys do i need to install node js?
[07:01] <iKarus987> i mean it is with ubuntu right?
[07:02] <wajideus> rn, I'm really just trying to create a "base" image of my typical arch setup (using dwm as my wm). I'm wanting to use suckless and musl because they're tiny and you can compile & install ~167 of the basic Linux utilities in ~6 seconds
[07:02] <ducasse> jbg: not entirely sure, as you can see it is also a different minor version
[07:03] <iKarus987> is there a diffrence between unpacking and extracting?
[07:04] <Shako557> iKarus987: you need to install node.js in ubuntu
[07:04] <Shako557> iKarus987: sudo apt-get install nodejs
[07:11] <wajideus> I think I've got the ghist of how xorg-server needs to be compiled now
[07:12] <wajideus> looks like pretty much everything that's server-side has "proto" in the name
[07:15] <messerting> Hi, I came halfway through "do-release-upgrade" from 16.04 to 20.4. The screen session crashed(?) during a subshell session to resolve a conflict.
[07:15] <SarunInt>  Hi, I'd like to know why getty is not starting on tty1? tty1 continues to show boot messages, but tty[2-6] does show the login prompt normally.
[07:15] <messerting> How, can I reset the process and restart it?
[07:15] <iKarus987> Shako557 i am trying to fallow this tutorial :(  https://pastebin.com/zGSmGtJ4  could u plz help me understand. I have the files extracted and they are there. I cd to that location where the automatic.sh file is then i do 'node automatic.sh '  i am talking about the line on 32 to 35
[07:16] <Shako557> messerting: I dont think an ubuntu upgrade has ever worked. better off copying your files and starting with a fresh install
[07:16] <iKarus987> i get an error saying ' Missing dependencies. INstall a version with dependncies ( not ' download repository') or use npm install
[07:16] <messerting> Shako557: Well, I though is would work as great as on Fedora
[07:17] <messerting> I've successfully upgraded several releases there...
[07:17] <iKarus987> shako557 this was a zip file that i extracted to a folder :(
[07:17] <messerting> I'm doing it on a server with multiple users, so it not that easy to just move files. Argh..
[07:18] <messerting> Can I try to just do "apt upgrade", or will that kill the system now?
[07:18] <messerting> All sources point at the new release
[07:20] <ducasse> messerting: try 'dpkg --configure -a' and 'apt install -f'
[07:20] <messerting> ducasse: thanks, will try!
[07:21] <Shako557> messerting: I never had a successful upgrade with ubuntu. better to reinstall, it's a nightmare. Your system is mostly all screwd up and apt install -f and all that will just make everything worst
[07:21] <Shako557> messerting: you should try it tho
[07:21] <messerting> Shako557: okay, sh*t...
[07:21] <ducasse> it's worth a shot to see if it can be rescued
[07:21] <messerting> It is connected to AD via PBIS and all, so it will take time to get it online again I guess...
[07:23] <sweb> hi i cant add multiple address to my server:
[07:23] <sweb> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MBzb9ygX2c/
[07:23] <iKarus987> shako557 :<
[07:23] <Shako557> iKarus987: if you are on ubuntu (not windows/mac). open a terminal type: apt-get install nodejs
[07:23] <sweb> ubuntu 16.04
[07:23] <iKarus987> already done that
[07:23] <iKarus987> it is installed
[07:24] <iKarus987> yet i get that error :<
[07:24] <Shako557> iKarus987: okay the download the latest zip in a new folder https://bitbucket.org/jessecar/backpack.tf-automatic/downloads
[07:24] <iKarus987> ye i have the latest
[07:24] <iKarus987> not the repostory
[07:24] <Shako557> iKarus987: then unzip the zip in a folder
[07:25] <iKarus987> unzip same as extract
[07:25] <iKarus987> yes?
[07:25] <iKarus987> because i done that, then i did 'node automatic.sh '
[07:25] <iKarus987> once i was inside that folder
[07:25] <Shako557> unzip same as extract yeah
[07:25] <Shako557> the command is
[07:26] <Shako557> node automatic
[07:26] <iKarus987> ye i did that :(
[07:26] <Shako557> no .sh
[07:26] <iKarus987> its same i get that error, i am not happy with the emoji
[07:26] <iKarus987> i am looking more like a sadface xD
[07:27] <Shako557> it's really node automatic
[07:27] <Shako557> not node automatic.sh
[07:27] <Shako557> it's different
[07:27] <iKarus987> ye i get that error :(
[07:28] <iKarus987> 'Missing dependencies. Install a version with dependencies ( not ' download repository') or use npm install
[07:30] <iKarus987> hmm i will show the actual file
[07:30] <iKarus987> the code that i am trying to run hold on
[07:30] <Shako557> iKarus987: you'll need the dependencies for the script
[07:31] <iKarus987> https://pastebin.com/iKDYTLYs
[07:31] <Shako557> iKarus987: use npm install
[07:31] <Shako557> iKarus987; and install all that https://pastebin.com/29SmizAg
[07:31] <iKarus987> as u can see this line on 10 gets executed
[07:31] <ducasse> iKarus987: installing software from outside the repos is not supported here, especially not when the software in question is no longer supported
[07:33] <iKarus987> ahh very sad
[07:33] <Shako557> iKarus987: read my last post, install the dependencies and you'll be allright
[07:34] <iKarus987> k installed npm
[07:36] <iKarus987> Shako557 how do i apply that file
[07:36] <iKarus987> you sent me
[07:36] <iKarus987> do i just create a text file and paste those lines in?
[07:38] <Shako557> iKarus987: no. for each line of the text file; axios, colors, moment, etc
[07:39] <Shako557> iKarus987: in a terminal you write: npm install <name of dependency>
[07:39] <iKarus987> thats what i am saying
[07:40] <iKarus987> paste those lines in a text file then run it
[07:40] <iKarus987> with npm install that-file
[07:40] <iKarus987> ?
[07:41] <Shako557> no it's better to do it by hand, one by one that way you can make sure they all successfully install
[07:42] <iKarus987> ahh so like this
[07:42] <iKarus987> npm install ---line 1----
[07:42] <iKarus987> npm install -line 2--
[07:42] <iKarus987> ...
[07:43] <Shako557> no just the name, the left side of each line. the text that's inside the double quotes like first line. would be npm install axios
[07:44] <iKarus987> i am so confused :-( so create 9 text files?
[07:44] <iKarus987> this emoji sucks
[07:45] <Shako557> iKarus987: pretty sure installing this script is out of your depth level
[07:45] <iKarus987> well i have to start somewhere
[07:45] <iKarus987> sorry man
[07:45] <wajideus> holy cow, the xorg server is big.
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> wajideus: can we help you?
[07:47] <wajideus> naw. I think I got it. I'm just recompiling xorg-server over and over to get a list of all the dependencies from all the missing header errs it throws at me
[07:48] <wajideus> I've had to compile and install about 15 packages so far. seems like it's pretty much everything in the /proto directory on their website
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> wajideus: please only use this channel for ubuntu support issues, tnx
[07:53] <iKarus987> ohh well shako557 gave up
[07:53] <iKarus987> i feel ashamed
[07:55] <Shako557> it's hard to explain. but basically you need to open a terminal. no txt file, just write: npm install axios
[07:55] <Shako557> press enter
[07:55] <Shako557> wait for it to finish. then write at the terminal. npm install colors
[07:56] <Shako557> so on and so forth. for each name of each line of the pastebin
[07:56] <iKarus987> hmm
[07:56] <iKarus987> even tho i get ' no such file or directory, open '/home/jim/Downloads/package.json'
[07:58] <iKarus987> ahh
[07:58] <iKarus987> ok sorry
[07:58] <iKarus987> works now
[07:58] <iKarus987> doing next
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> iKarus987: please dont use this channel to describe every step you are doing
[08:00] <iKarus987> ok sorry
[08:07] <iKarus987> Shako557 i dont all that still i get 'missing dependencies'
[08:08] <iKarus987> i done#
[08:10] <micrex22> Isn't it kind of a grey line which could be considered 'ubuntu' or not considering ubuntu relies on so many other packages?
[08:11] <micrex22> (usually the x.org IRC channel is a graveyard with nobody who can answer anything, anyways)
[08:14] <Shako557> iKarus987: some scripts just sucks. when they become unsupported they require dependencies that they don't list. you'd need to track them by reading the code if you'd really wanted =/
[08:15] <iKarus987> k
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> Shako557: please mind your language in the ubuntu channels
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | micrex22
[08:19] <dckusr> funny (?) docker story from yesterday https://github.com/tzickel/docker-trim/issues/1#issuecomment-629840844
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> dckusr: hows that related to ubuntu support?
[08:38] <toffe> Hi guys! I have a problem I've had a while now. When starting a software like IntelliJ my two external monitors craps out. Using CTRl+ALT+F3 to enter a TTY they come back. If i kill -9 all intellij processes then go back to ctrl+alt+f2 it works again. Any idea on where to start? Last time I fixed it by upgrading to 20.04, but after a while i started happening the exact same way as 19.10 was.
[08:39] <toffe> Only my two external screens goes black, the last (laptop screen) is still working. And it seems like the desktop are there when I try to share desktop in Slack I can share the two screens that are black
[08:39] <toffe> but they say "Signal missing"
[08:41] <iKarus987> Thanks alot Shako557 i made it work :) ok enough about this
[08:42] <artistsvoid> using virtualbox, I try to fully capture keyboard (windows key for exapmle opens menu in both the virtual OS and kubuntu at the same time) (auto-capture keyboard setting doesn't help) - been told in ##vbox it's a linux problem and there's nothing I can do, so trying here (w/ little hope)
[09:06] <BlueShark_> lotuspsychje: just out of curiosity, what was the foul language that was used above?
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> BlueShark_: come to #ubuntu-discuss we can talk about it
[09:18] <hetii> Hi.
[09:19] <hetii> Guys could someone explain me why the hell each ubuntu release after some time have invalid urls in apt source?
[09:20] <hetii> Why on each time I need to take care and change links or do other stuff in CI/CD cause links are expired?
[09:21] <ThinkT510> hetii: LTS releases are supported for 5 years. the releases inbetween are only supported for 9 months.
[09:22] <hetii> But who cares about this. The links should be still valid and offer lattes packages that was build till end of the life of current release.
[09:23] <schykle> You're experiencing this on a current release?
[09:23] <DJones> hetii: Which version of Ubuntu is this happening on
[09:24] <hetii> Sorry I talk about each of release, that I touch. Today for eg force that issue when recreate farm of the servers that need to spin up in the same version that was before, and now I need to fix those apt links
[09:25] <hetii> for single use it's not an issue but if you keep case about infrastructure then its really annoying thing
[09:25] <ThinkT510> hetii: are you using an LTS release for your setup?
[09:26] <hetii> For most of my setup if I can.
[09:27] <hetii> But the issue is not in that what I use but in that in after some time images are corrupted by invalid links and I love to see immutable images with valid link even they are 10 years old :)
[09:29] <ThinkT510> hetii: the support timeframes are very clear. as an administrator of your systems you should be aware of these timeframes and plan necessary transitions.
[09:35] <toffe> Hmm
[09:40] <schykle> I wasn't aware IRC connections got closed for inactivity O_o
[09:40] <luna_> schykle: only if you use irccloud
[10:03] <Perfec7> morning guys
[10:03] <luna_> morning
[10:03] <dckusr> hetii: you can make a server which auto redirects
[10:06] <hetii> ehh sure I can use bunch of differen workarund but this is not the way how this should be fixed. The main issue is in ubuntu itself. There are plenty of scenarios where changing those links brake something.
[10:07] <hetii> sometimes guys work partialy on some project, some other time they have limited access
[10:07] <dckusr> hetii: I persume they do it on purpose so you don't rely on it by accident
[10:07] <hetii> and can just recreate machine by CI/CD pipelines
[10:08] <hetii> I just show that sometime it's not easy to use fresh image or even allowed.
[10:08] <hetii> thats why internal links should not expired
[10:08] <dckusr> hetii: you can do a local apt mirror, it's not a big issue
[10:08] <dckusr> that way you never have issues like this
[10:09] <hetii> AS I said before, this is a workound and not a real fix. I work for multiple companies over the world and believe me this can be an real issue.
[10:12] <hetii> This behavior is like with windows 10 updates, you must do because "ubuntu" know better then final user what he need ignoring all user corner cases.
[10:12] <ocean> hetii: It seems that you know what the issue is, and don't have an actual support question. In that case, #ubuntu-discuss is better suited for the kind of discussion you are trying to have
[10:14] <hetii> I just say loud that such managing of apt urls should be changed, and maybe, just maybe someone here who have enough power will raise it on some meeting and change it :)
[11:02] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:02] <luna_> morning
[11:04] <dckusr> how are those messages related to ubuntu support ? :)
[11:05] <Perfec7> dckusr, morning! o/
[11:24] <asdfgh> hello everybody
[11:24] <asdfgh> i would like to upgrade my ubuntui 18.04 to 20.04, how can i create a bootable udb?
[11:24] <asdfgh> usb
[11:30] <RattleBattle79> asdfgh: How did you make a bootable USB for Ubuntu 18.04? What is the problem exactly?
[11:30] <asdfgh> RattleBattle79, do you believe? i do not remember :D
[11:30] <asdfgh> ahaha
[11:30] <Aattas> Hi asdfgh, you can use the "Startup Disk Creator" application which should already be available on your version of ubuntu. You will also need the ISO for 20.04
[11:31] <asdfgh> Aattas, yes i have download the iso
[11:31] <asdfgh> Aattas, bingo
[11:32] <asdfgh> found it thanks
[11:34] <Aattas> you're welcome
[11:41] <asdfgh> wow easy and fast
[11:48] <dckusr> when will it be possible to upgrade ubuntu X.X to Y.Y without formatting ? :(
[11:50] <b1ackandwh1te> apt upgrade dont need formatting
[11:52]  * vlt has a machine that was upgraded from 6.06 all the way to 16.04 without formatting
[11:53] <dckusr> basically all my attempts and my friends to upgrade from one version to another always results in complete borkness, or pretty complete borkness
[11:53] <dckusr> so dunno....
[11:55] <asdfgh> dckusr, every two years i clean all the bull...t i have accomulated during the period so i will do a clean install then re-load my work with git
[11:55] <asdfgh> but i think is possible
[12:40] <user0x> Hi
[12:45] <ejr> i would like to disable the auto-creation of folders like Desktop, Documents, Videos etc... i have set all XDG folder variables in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs to $HOME so that they all point to ~/. The media folders are not created anymore, but ~/Desktop and ~/Downloads still are. Why?
[12:52] <Zajt> I am trying to use openconnect to connect to a VPN but get "Failed to obtain WebVPN cookie" but if it works to connect to it if I use a client on my Windows host
[13:08] <yolan> Hello
[13:08] <yolan> How to install libcrypto ?
[13:10] <ejr> yolan: sudo apt-get install libcrypto++6? or whatever package you need from the library
[13:12] <yolan> Well i'm trying to install PacketTracer
[13:12] <yolan> it needs libcrypto.so.1.0.0
[13:12] <yolan> I can't find a way to install it
[13:14] <ejr> libcrypto.so is usually part of firefox, isnt it?
[13:14] <leftyfb> yolan: what version of ubuntu?
[13:14] <yolan> I have firefox but not libcrypto
[13:14] <yolan> 20.04
[13:15] <ejr> anyway, check if you have libcrypto.so in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[13:15] <ejr> (in case you're on 64 bit)
[13:15] <yolan> I have libcrypto.so.1.1.0
[13:15] <yolan> not 1.0.0
[13:15] <yolan> it is dum
[13:15] <ocean> yolan: dpkg -S libcrypto.so, says it is in package libssl1.0.0:amd64
[13:16] <yolan> ocean Yes I saw this too
[13:16] <yolan> but I could not find nor install libssl
[13:17] <ocean> yolan: type apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0
[13:17] <ejr> hmm, i dont know what packettracer is any why it needs a lower version of libcrypto, but if it's not in the official repos i would be careful with downgrading libcrypto. maybe someone else in here knows more about that though
[13:17] <leftyfb> yolan: you have a newer version. The PacketTracer isn't made to work with the newer version. You'll need to contact Cisco for support with PacketTracer.
[13:17] <yolan> dang
[13:17] <yolan> :(
[13:18] <ocean> that's not really the case
[13:18] <leftyfb> ocean: yes, that is really the case
[13:18] <sazawal> Hi all, the LibreOffice on my new Ubuntu 20.04 with Gnome Xorg/Wayland takes a long to start, more than 2 minutes or so. How do I find out the problem? I tried running it from terminal but still no error log.
[13:19] <ocean> I run new versions, but still libssl is providing the needed libcrypto.so.1.0.0
[13:20] <ocean> (and no problems installing latest .deb from cisco)
[13:21] <EriC^^> !info libssl1.0.0 focal
[13:21] <EtherMan> Can I somehow turn off the readding of 127.0.1.1 <hostname> into /etc/hosts every boot? It's interfering with how Gluster works when hostname is the same name as the hostname that gluster uses.
[13:22] <DolphinDream> howdy
[13:23] <DolphinDream> in ubuntu 20.. (on a mac) when i tap command key it brings up a “search” poortal showing me the opened windows . how do i turn this off?
[13:23] <leftyfb> ocean: yolan: the file, libcrypto.so.1.0.0 is not part of any package in ubuntu 20.04 in any way that is properly usable for PacketTracer. You'll need to contact Cisco for support
[13:30] <akik> yolan: somebody is writing here that libssl1.0 ubuntu package installs on 20.04 https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-viber-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[13:36] <dckusr> you can also use docker to run older versions of that libssl
[13:38] <Nothing4You> any idea why an azure 18.04 vm claims to not find 20.04 via do-release-upgrade?
[13:39] <legreffier> Nothing4You: maybe they use some custom repository and didn't mirror the last version (yet)
[13:40] <ikonia> if you're running an azure vm, it would make sense to destroy and replace
[13:40] <ikonia> rather than upgrade
[13:40] <Nothing4You> azure.archive.ubuntu.com is configured there
[13:40] <Nothing4You> unfortunately there is no official 20.04 image yet
[13:41] <Nothing4You> actually now that i'm searching again there is
[13:41] <legreffier> Nothing4You: do-release-upgrade won't work with the image.
[13:41] <Nothing4You> i'm confused :o
[13:43] <legreffier> do-release will just modify you sources.list so it will fetch package in the newer version
[13:43] <goddard> Nothing4You: could just use your own image
[13:44] <Nothing4You> legreffier: why wouldn't it work? i'll rebuild the VM with the 20.04 image now that i found it but i'm curious
[13:44]  * goddard watches openstack cry in the corner as Nothiung4You ignores her
[13:45] <funyun> hi. i was moving files and my server froze. when i try to reboot i am taken to aptio setup utility. my nvme drive is not being recognized. someone told me my filesystem got screwed up when i was moving files. now i have created a flash drive with a new ubuntu install. can anyone help me fix my nvme drive from this new ubuntu boot drive?
[13:46] <leftyfb> funyun: if your drive isn't being detected, your issue is a hardware issue. Buy a new drive and restore from backup
[13:46] <legreffier> Nothing4You: i meant that do-release-upgrade just download/install packages and won't use a full-blown image.
[13:47] <Nothing4You> ah ok that's what i was expecting
[13:48] <Nothing4You> does it technically do anything besides replacing the sources.list entries or is it really just that?
[13:48] <legreffier> it's really just that
[13:52] <akik> legreffier: are you saying do-release-upgrade wouldn't upgrade the vm Nothing4You is running on azure?
[13:54] <legreffier> akik: well Nothing4You said it wouldn't. I don't have much more informations
[13:55] <dckusr> leftyfb: huh ? nvme can be becaus of bios settings, etc....
[13:55] <leftyfb> dckusr: bios settings don't just change on their own
[13:56] <Nothing4You> akik: didn't work for me: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kJ7QR4C9qx/
[13:57] <akik> why is it that if i umount a ext3 partition and then start fdisk on that disk where the partition is located, the partition is automatially mounted back?
[13:57] <dckusr> true, but "buy a new drive" is so....
[13:59] <leftyfb> dckusr: The PC rebooted when accessing the drive, pc came back up with the drive not being detected. That is 100% a hardware issue. If the drive is the cause (more than likely), don't put important data onto a faulty drive. That's begging for data loss.
[14:01] <Munsko> dckusr, some days ago i found that you can use the pc in the "cloud", you just need a USB with a live CD and dropbox or something like that
[14:01] <Munsko> If u have problems with the disk you could try to use that thing
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !u | Munsko
[14:02] <john_rambo>  Which mode is the most secure ? WPA-PSK or WPA2-PSK or WPA/WPA2-PSK mixed ? https://ibb.co/TgfQKpQ
[14:02] <Munsko> oh, sorry
[14:02] <leftyfb> !ot | john_rambo
[14:03] <john_rambo> leftyfb, Okay
[14:38] <fgould> Is it possible to install iTunes on Ubuntu 20.04? I'm having a problem with wine32 install that says libwine replaces it but when I run `wine --version` it says wine32 is missing.
[14:38] <ikonia> it's not something I'd suggest you do
[14:38] <fgould> Oh, that's install on RPi4B.
[14:38] <ikonia> that's also arm
[14:38] <fgould> right
[14:38] <ikonia> wine is x86 isn't it ?
[14:39] <fgould> it didn't say, just "Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-arm64/Packages' as repository"
[14:39] <ikonia> it tunes is not an arm binary
[14:39] <ikonia> it's x86
[14:39] <fgould> gotcha. Thanks!
[14:40] <ikonia> it feels like the worst possible setup/use case for wine and itunes
[14:40] <fgould> Here's where I found install notes: https://vitux.com/how-to-install-and-use-itunes-on-ubuntu/
[14:41] <ikonia> that's not on arm
[14:42] <fgould> How can I tell when it's not on arm?
[14:44] <fgould> Is there an alternative for arm like Rhythmbox?
[14:44] <ikonia> what do you mean how can you tell ?
[14:45] <fgould> In these articles, they just say Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. Does that mean i386 somehow?
[14:45] <ikonia> most things will work on all archs
[14:45] <ikonia> but if you're doing something that is a basic form of emulation....a bit of common sense kicks in
[14:46] <fgould> gotcha. This is new to me. Are there alternatives to iTunes like Rhythmbox?
[14:46] <ikonia> loads of music apps
[14:47] <ikonia> search the software center
[14:47] <fgould> okay, thanks.
[14:55] <Munsko> Hello, some time ago i was having freezing problems in my lubuntu during high ram consuming games(and sometimes when afk). Now i have anothr problem: sometimes my keyboard stops suddenly, and i was looking in internet about the 2nd problem and i found that sometimes is related to a lack o ram. My question is if my ram is having problems(dont working correctly) because i never reak the 10% of ram usage when i had those problems, but looks like
[14:55] <Munsko> they are linked to ram anyways
[14:55] <Munsko> reach the 100%*
[14:56] <Munsko> The problem of the keyboard goes normal after log off and log in, any idea of what could be the problem?
[15:02] <Perfec7> Munsko, sup?
[15:40] <oli_b> Hi All
[15:41] <oli_b> Does anyone know about the conflict between gnome-shell v3.36.2 and gnome-tweaks?
[15:41] <oli_b> My gnome-shell has upgraded from 3.36.1 to 3.36.2 and gnome-tweaks package disappeared because of conflict...
[15:41] <oli_b> Will the gnome-tweaks be updated to match up with gnome-shell v3.36.2 as well?
[15:42] <goddard> oli_b: check for a flatpak of gnome tweaks
[15:44] <ioria> oli_b, how come you have  3.36.2 ?
[15:47] <oli_b> ioria: apt info gnome-shell says:
[15:47] <oli_b> Version: 3.36.2-1ubuntu1~20.04.1
[15:47] <ioria> !ing gnome-shell focal
[15:47] <ioria> !info gnome-shell focal
[15:48] <ioria> oli_b, 3.36.1 ^
[15:48] <ioria> oli_b,  -2 is in  --proposed
[15:48]  * Warped installs AI plugin into ubottu bot's programming
[15:48] <oli_b> ioria: i have checked all 4 boxes: main, universe, restricted, multiverse
[15:49] <ioria> oli_b,   apt-cache policy gnome-shell
[15:50]  * Warped also installs do-as-I-meant-not-as-I-typed plugin into ubottu
[15:50] <oli_b>   Installed: 3.36.2-1ubuntu1~20.04.1
[15:50] <ioria> oli_b,  and the repo ?
[15:50] <oli_b> ioria: I don't want to flood pasting here all 12-15 rows
[15:50]  * ikonia requests Warped stops with the /me commands
[15:51] <oli_b>  *** 3.36.2-1ubuntu1~20.04.1 500
[15:51] <oli_b>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-proposed/main amd64 Packages
[15:51] <ioria> oli_b,   i simply asked you the first repo ; but ok  ....  apt-cache policy gnome-shell | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:51] <ioria> oli_b,  ok.. as you see you have proposed enabled
[15:51] <oli_b> ioria: yep....
[15:52] <ioria> oli_b,  really not good if you don't even know what that is
[15:52] <oli_b> ioria: in the focal and focal-updates there is only 3.36.1
[15:52] <ioria> ok
[15:52] <oli_b> ioria: i have 3.36.2 only in the focal-proposed
[15:54] <oli_b> ioria: I will switch off the "proposed" checkbox from the software sources, no problem
[15:54] <oli_b> I didn't think it will "break" something.... I know it is for experimental purposes
[15:55] <sruli> I have 3 sounds cards (built in analogue, usb and hdmi) I want to be able to select the card to use for output from command line, been for hours on the www most articles are so ooold, i tried with amixer and with pacmd/pactl but am not succeeding to change the output on the fly, any ideas? (ubuntu 18.04)
[15:56] <legreffier> sruli: I do it with pacmd.
[15:57] <arooni> any advice if chrome isn't launching on ubuntu 18.04?  tried from the terminal and there's *no* output
[15:58] <sruli> legreffier: how exactly? "pactl set-default-sink 'alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo'" i get no error but nothing chnages
[15:59] <akik> sruli: pacmd list-cards followed by pacmd set-card-profile 0 output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo (that is one of the profile names)
[16:01] <legreffier> sruli: do you have some bash basics skills or nah ?
[16:02] <sruli> legreffier: i am pretty good with bash
[16:03] <legreffier> here's the bash function it calls when I switch card : https://pastebin.com/tqrnZkLb
[16:04] <sruli> legreffier: last line "move_sinks_to_new_default" what is that?
[16:05] <sruli> legreffier: i mean is that a command? i dont see its setting a var
[16:06] <RoseBus> how can i monitor my cpu usage
[16:07] <ikonia> top ?
[16:08] <RoseBus> top chows 291% CPU
[16:08] <RoseBus> shows*
[16:08] <akik> move_sinks_to_new_default is probably another function that's not in the paste
[16:08] <RoseBus> how is that ecen possible
[16:11] <sruli> akik: legreffier: thats what i am trying to figure out .. "pacmd set-default-sink $default_sink" this seems to be the only command here the rest just gets the hw info, when i try this command on this own it does not change anything
[16:12] <akik> sruli: you tried the commands i pasted ?
[16:12] <sruli> akik: i did not see ur paste
[16:12] <akik> sruli: pacmd list-cards followed by pacmd set-card-profile 0 output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo (that is one of the profile names)
[16:17] <legreffier> sruli: it's another function
[16:17] <sruli> akik: card 2 is my hdmi, "pacmd set-card-profile 2 output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo" does not change the output.
[16:18] <legreffier> akik: it will only work with stereo stuffs :(
[16:21] <legreffier> sruli: https://pastebin.com/h1ccYJ8A here's the code
[16:21] <sruli> legreffier: set-default-sink does not change the source for me
[16:21] <legreffier> yeah it just set the output
[16:21] <legreffier> the other function is in charge of syncing the input to the new default sink
[16:22] <akik> sruli: use 0 instead of 2
[16:22] <sruli> akik: No such profile: output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo
[16:22] <akik> sruli: pacmd list-cards followed by pacmd set-card-profile 0 output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo (that is one of the profile names)
[16:22] <legreffier> exactly what i said earlier ^^
[16:23] <akik> sruli: my computer is not like computer. they don't have the same profile names
[16:23] <akik> like your computer
[16:23] <legreffier> why would you need to modify the profile ? the defaults are usually just working for 90% use-cases
[16:24] <akik> legreffier: because that works
[16:24] <legreffier> profiles are unrela.ted
[16:24] <legreffier> akik: obviously it doesn't.
[16:24] <akik> why do you question it?
[16:24] <akik> legreffier: of course it works. why would i paste a non-working solution?
[16:24] <legreffier> I'm questioning anything.
[16:24] <legreffier> not questioning.
[16:25] <akik> sruli just pasted the commands without reading what they do
[16:25] <akik> my profile names didn't match his profile names
[16:25] <legreffier> why are we talking about profiles ?
[16:26] <akik> legreffier: that's how you can change the audio output with pacmd
[16:26] <legreffier> akik: no.
[16:26] <akik> legreffier: yes
[16:26] <legreffier> it set a profile for a sound card.
[16:26] <akik> legreffier: are you for real?
[16:26] <sruli> this is the output of my list-sinks https://termbin.com/jlx13
[16:26] <legreffier> it doesn't choose a sound card.
[16:27] <sruli> legreffier: i am trying to understand the functions, the first function i am supposed to call witht eh card number?
[16:27] <akik> legreffier: i can change my audio output between the laptop speakers and hdmi audio with that
[16:27] <akik> legreffier: did you even try it?
[16:27] <legreffier> sruli: you're supposed to call the 1st function I gave
[16:28] <sruli> legreffier: and where is the card i want specified?
[16:28] <legreffier> maybe juste put : [1st pastebin] [2nd pastebin] + "set_default_playback_device_next" at the very end. in a bash script
[16:29] <sruli> legreffier: still trying to understand, this is supposed to change the output, where do i specify which output to select?
[16:29] <legreffier> sruli: it calculates to pick next card ... (it there's no next card, it will pick previous one)
[16:30] <legreffier> sruli: you don't :)
[16:31] <sruli> legreffier: i am so confused, i have 3 cards, i want to change now fro 2nd to first, how does this script do that?
[16:31] <legreffier> this function is called when i right-click the loudspeaker icon ... it just switch to next interface..
[16:31] <legreffier> you run it twice :)
[16:32] <legreffier> you want me to annotate the function ?
[16:33] <sruli> legreffier: i get it, i was under the impression i can specify the card, i guess wont be too hard to amend for that. works, many thanks
[16:34] <sruli> legreffier: my end goal is to exec the script to switch to hdmi when i connect eh hdmi cable
[16:40] <legreffier> sruli: https://pastebin.com/R7aYT2s2
[16:40] <legreffier> yeah you can easily adapt it to your needs :)
[16:42] <sruli> legreffier: thanks, still learning it.. just a small comment so far.. instead of num_devices= use "${#sink_arr[@]}"
[16:45] <legreffier> sruli: yes
[16:45] <legreffier> I think the script tried be sh-compliant at some point
[16:46] <legreffier> but you are right.
[17:23] <DolphinDream> how to deactivate the SUPER key from triggering the Activities .. what dev thougth this was a smart idea was not thinking clearly .on mac i use the SUPER=CMD key all the time to copy/paste etc.. and i trigger Activities inadvertently all the time.
[17:24] <DolphinDream> that is in ubuntu 20
[17:38] <DolphinDream> anyone knows how to disable the SUPER (CMD on mac) key to not trigger the Activities in ubuntu 20?
[17:38] <oli_b> ioria: You gave me a hard time with this :-)
[17:39] <oli_b> ioria: what I figured out: the "proposed" checkbox is "on" by default, because I did not change on a fresh install but it was on.
[17:40] <oli_b> ioria: Secondly: I could not switch it off with the GUI (!) , I could only change between the "checkmark" and the "minus" sign. To be able to turn it off I had to go into /etc/apt and edit files manually
[17:41] <oli_b> ioria: then I had to manually downgrade the gnome-shell as apt did prefer the higher version by any settings , even if it was not available any more...
[17:42] <oli_b> ioria: Now I am back to 3.36.1, and re-installed gnome-tweaks as well as all necessary extensions
[17:44] <sruli> legreffier: you still around?
[17:44] <ioria> oli_b, sorry to tell you this, but  i doubt  the 'the "proposed" checkbox is "on" by default'  thing might be true
[17:45] <oli_b> ioria: I swear I did not turn it on, but it was on. AND I was not able to turn it off, there were only 2 states of the check box:  "checked" and then the "minus sign" - which means some kind of "partially" or "limited". But there was no such state that the box is empty
[17:46] <sruli> legreffier: i re-wrote is for when wanting to specify the device, https://termbin.com/hr7y2 works very well, thanks for your help
[17:46] <ioria> oli_b, ok
[17:47] <oli_b> ioria: And in /etc/apt/sources.list.d there was only the proposed.list file
[17:47] <oli_b> I edited it manually: removed the "-proposed" after "focal" and the checkbox disappeared
[17:49] <ioria> oli_b, out of curiosity :   cat /var/log/installer/media-info ?
[17:49] <oli_b> Ubuntu 20.04 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Release amd64 (20200503)
[17:53] <ioria> oli_b, if it's really the case, that should be a bug, i remember something similar on trusty 14.04
[17:53] <EtherMan> Can I somehow turn off the readding of 127.0.1.1 <hostname> into /etc/hosts every boot?
[17:54] <ioria> oli_b,  but it was for the testing iso, not the released one
[17:54] <EtherMan> Setting +i on the file doesn't really sound like the "appropriate" way to do it, even if it technically works :)
[17:54] <oli_b> ioria: I still have the installer USB stick. I plugged it in into the other desktop computer I have, and booted from the USB stick. I selected "Try Ubuntu", and then went into the Software Source settings
[17:54] <oli_b> ioria: And it has the Proposed checkmark ON
[17:54] <ioria> oli_b, when you downloaded the iso ?
[17:55] <oli_b> ioria: file date is 4th May, 8am
[17:55] <oli_b> ioria: May the 4th be with You....
[17:56] <oli_b> ioria: so exactly 2 wks ago
[17:56] <ioria> oli_b, then it's a bug
[17:57] <oli_b> ioria: no problem, now I unchecked it manually from file, and I am back to 3.36.1 gnome-shell
[17:58] <ioria> oli_b,  yep, ok but the problem might be also for other people
[17:58] <oli_b> ioria: I am wondering that now as I installed gnome-shell with:  "apt install gnome-shell=3.36.1"  , so I am wondering if apt did remember that I wanted 3.36.1 and won't update it any more?
[17:58] <ioria> !nope
[17:58] <ioria> !bug oli_b
[17:59] <ioria> !bug | oli_b
[18:00] <frad> how do I sudo e2label a luks encrypted ssd?
[18:00] <frad> ext4
[18:00] <oli_b> okay, so in case of a more recent update apt will automatically update the package gnome-shell too? (not influenced by the fact that I manually forced the downgrade from 3.36.2 to 3.36.1) ?
[18:06] <vlt> frad: You `cryptsetup luksOpen your_target` it, then do your thing on /dev/mapper/your_target.
[18:13] <johnjay> how to get a show desktop icon in ubuntu 20.04?
[18:13] <johnjay> the only ones i can see are for 12.04 and 16
[18:15] <leftyfb> johnjay: go to https://extensions.gnome.org/ and search for "show desktop"
[18:17] <johnjay> thanks that worked leftyfb
[18:20] <johnjay> very weird.
[18:20] <johnjay> when i disable the ctrl-super-d shortcut in preferences to hide windows it also disables ctrl-alt-d doing the same thing
[18:21] <johnjay> i guess it's fine either way but still that is odd.
[18:27] <oli_b> ioria: bug number 1879373
[18:28] <oli_b> ioria: funny thing is that in the syslog file attached to the bug it appears on several locations that the focal-proposed repo can not be reached because of network unavailable. So the installer tried to reach it already during installation...
[18:29] <ioria> oli_b,  thanks for the report.
[18:30] <oli_b> ioria: I thank YOU for all the help!
[18:35] <DouglasK> I have a headless machine that keeps locking up with high CPU usage (going by the fan speed).  When locked, ssh, telnet do not work, they just time out.  What could I use to figure out which process is hogging the CPU and log it to disc or external log server?
[18:39] <tripelb> Update says Your machine is up to date. --> sudo apt update followed by > sudo apt upgrade  works hard and does several minutes of work. -- 20.04 Ubuntu has been a constant headache.
[18:40] <messerting> Shako557, ducasse: FYI, I did manage to get the system back in a good state after manually merging some config files etc. Thanks for your help.
[18:44] <DouglasK> Currently machine is at 19.04, I've not upgraded it, thinking I should fix the lockup issue before doing a major update.  Thoughts?
[18:49] <ThinkT510> !eol | DouglasK
[18:50] <mgedmin> DouglasK: do upgrade, maybe that'll fix your problem ;)
[18:51] <mgedmin> DouglasK: so usually when a machine is heavily busy and not responding, I suspect it ran out of memory and is so busy swapping pages in and out of disk that it can't do any useful work
[18:51] <ikonia> it's pretty hard for a machine to run out of resource that much it locks
[18:51] <DouglasK> First, I misspoke... just checked and it's at 19.10.  Second, doing a release upgrade when you have a freezing issue needing a hard reboot seems like a risky proposition.
[18:51] <mgedmin> DouglasK: anyway, tools I've used to debug such incidents are collectd and atop
[18:52] <ikonia> a machine will only lock due to a kernel panic, or a hardware failure
[18:52] <DouglasK> Ok... I'll look those up and go from there.  Thank you.  Knowing what to google is a real help!
[18:52] <mgedmin> collectd collects various system metrics (cpu usage, ram usage, free disk space, number of processes, number of forks etc) into RRD files you can then graph and look at at a latter time
[18:53] <iKarus987> Hi what program are there that helps me record my ingame ? something like fraps or shadowplay from nvidia
[18:53] <tripelb> 20.04 I want a (old gnome style) taskbar (and panel tyvm). I put the word taskbar into tweaks and it just sat there.
[18:53] <iKarus987> is there such program ? in ubuntu
[18:53] <mgedmin> atop collects various system metrics (running processes, cpu usage, free ram, disk i/o etc) every 10 minutes and logs them to a log file in /var/log you can then view with sudo atop -r
[18:53] <mgedmin> it's very like the interactive top command (in fact it is an interactive top command, in addition to this logging/viewing feature)
[18:54] <mgedmin> you can jump around in time with t/T and see what was happening around the time the machine became non-responsive
[18:54] <x00F> iKarus987: obs
[18:54] <tripelb> My machine locks often. [11:52:05] <ikonia> a machine will only lock due to a kernel panic, or a hardware failure
[18:54] <mgedmin> with atop you may need to let it spin there for a while (30 minutes maybe?), in case it delays writing the captured stats
[18:55] <DouglasK> mgedmin, that works... it's normally a low utilization server... runs HomeAssistant and mosquitto mostly.
[18:55] <mgedmin> otherwise all you might see is a big blank lack of information around the time of the crash
[18:55] <mgedmin> which is not very informative
[18:57] <mgedmin> ikonia: when I first upgraded my laptop from 2 to 8 gigs of RAM a few years ago, I tried to disable my swap partition, to prolong SSD life; this resulted in Chrome eating up all my RAM and failing rather badly with this sort of swap storm that made the machine utterly unusable for several minutes
[18:57] <mgedmin> like 98% of cpu time spent in system, paging executables in and out
[18:57] <ikonia> mgedmin: that's very different than a lock
[18:58] <mgedmin> frozen display, no reaction to keyboard input for several minutes, seemed like a lock to me
[18:58] <mgedmin> although yeah, it was just very very slow, not actually frozen
[18:59] <mgedmin> so you're technically correct
[18:59] <mgedmin> I was offering possibilities for the described symptoms "locking up with high CPU usage (going by the fan speed)"
[19:05] <tripelb> Words are hard. That's why different search terms are useful. (What a particular word may particularly mean to a particular group.) Langagage is picky. {This is meant as a supportive message. I feel you, dude}
[19:07] <tripelb> Meanwhile my hexchat messes up and takes up the entire screen with no navigation shown -- that means no menu bars and no dock) -- recommend an IRC client please.
[19:07] <ikonia> irssi
[19:07] <tripelb> I need an irc client that will do logging, nick completion, copy from backscroll,  comment history, and HIGHLIGHT my nick. Pixel3a.+ It's ok to leave me a direct message because it will persist and not vanish in the backscroll.  Thanks friend.
[19:08] <tripelb> OK I will look for. That one.
[19:09] <tripelb> I can't get your nick iknoia it won't nick-complete.
[19:11] <tripelb> Not getting a HIGHLIGHT on my nick in a busy channel aka here makes finding a reply almost impossible -- I am on Android. Oh sorry that comment above was for looking for an ANDROID IRC client. I got mixed up.
[19:18] <tripelb> Aha!! Discovery report. In TWEAKS a taskbar is called a Window List at the bottom of the screen. (And it is filed under Extensions, not Appearance.)
[19:21] <tripelb> But... The dock conflicts and hides it. Oh for gnome, very old simplicity of screenview.
[19:24] <tripelb> New discovery.. the windows list is on workspace 1 and the dock on workspace 2. (Now if I just can get a different background on different workspaces. That will give me instant visual identification.)
[19:45] <RoseBus> xdg-open isn't launching applications from chromium
[19:45] <RoseBus> halp
[19:46] <RoseBus> ubuntu 20.04
[19:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> <- using 18.04 - hides in a corner
[19:47] <mgedmin> RoseBus: how do you mean?
[19:47] <oerheks> oh dear, does it not open magnet linka
[19:47] <oerheks> :-D
[19:47] <mgedmin> ah, this
[19:47] <artistsvoid> RoseBus: afaik chromium is a snap package? so that might be it?!
[19:47] <RoseBus> i get a prompt from chromium with a button "launch xdg-open" and i click launch but the application never opens (zoom in this case)
[19:47] <tripelb> I can't get a search option in Ubuntu software. 20.04 headache edition.
[19:47] <oerheks> save the link, then open, known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1853008
[19:50] <RoseBus> i dont like snap
[19:50] <RoseBus> nothing was wrong with apt
[19:51] <tripelb> "I have looked left right and center" how do I find what version my hexchat is, if it is from snap, (and where my logs are stored <=no one answers from #hexchat)
[19:51] <mgedmin> saving the link might be hard for magnet: and similar fake protocols
[19:51] <RoseBus> tripelb, help->about
[19:51] <mgedmin> right-click, copy address, alt-f2 xdg-open, paste - might work, seems tedious
[19:52] <oerheks> some snaps give options; softwarecenter > installed > snapname > permissions
[19:52] <oerheks> but i see no xdg-open stuff. see it as safety.
[19:54] <GR1M0R4CL3> great. gnome starts to crash again on my 18,04 with complete freezes and i lose all running apps
[19:59] <akem> GR1M0R4CL3, If everything is frozen it may not be gnome but the graphic driver or something else, are running Intel graphics chipset?
[19:59] <GR1M0R4CL3> brand new dell xps 2020
[20:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> it freezes. mouse still can move. after 10 seconds, im back at the login screen
[20:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> all opened apps, all are closed. everything not saved lost
[20:00] <RoseBus> GR1M0R4CL3, did you update your bios from windows before installing ubuntu?
[20:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> happened to me 3 times already. machine is a week old....
[20:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> latest bios up.
[20:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> latest bios, all updates
[20:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> machine came with ubuntu. no windows at all here
[20:01] <RoseBus> nice i didnt know dell pumps out native linux builds
[20:01] <GR1M0R4CL3> dell xps developer editions
[20:01] <GR1M0R4CL3> theh have been selling those with loaded ubuntu for over 10 years
[20:01] <RoseBus> haha
[20:02] <GR1M0R4CL3> having everything freeze and being sent back to login screen is not very good user experience for a 2000 euro brand new machine
[20:02] <RoseBus> definitely sounds like video card driver issues
[20:02] <GR1M0R4CL3> May 18 21:53:34 asgard kernel: [ 3772.120054] WARNING: CPU: 4 PID: 5160 at /build/linux-oem-osp1-JJcJwF/linux
[20:02] <GR1M0R4CL3> -oem-osp1-5.0.0/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_runtime_pm.c:308 hsw_wait_for_power_well_enable.isra.8+0x4c/0x50 [
[20:02] <GR1M0R4CL3> i915]
[20:02] <GR1M0R4CL3> this could be it
[20:02] <GR1M0R4CL3> 21:53 is when all did freeze
[20:03] <metbsd> i can't connect my bluetooth speaker
[20:04] <RoseBus> GR1M0R4CL3, does it have a dedicated video card?
[20:04] <RoseBus> or is it on-board
[20:05] <GR1M0R4CL3> it think the video card is inside the cpu or something like that
[20:06] <GR1M0R4CL3> https://www.dell.com/fr-fr/shop/ordinateurs-portables-dell/nouveau-xps-13/spd/xps-13-9300-laptop/cnx93013
[20:06] <GR1M0R4CL3> this is the laptop
[20:06] <GR1M0R4CL3> sometimes it works fine for hours. at other times i only got intellij loaded and it freezes and back at login
[20:06] <GR1M0R4CL3> hopefully for me, intellij does auto save every few seconds so i dont lose much
[20:07] <metbsd> do you guys know how to?
[20:07] <metbsd> connect bluetooth speaker
[20:07] <dresseress> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05hTBAOnDQE  can anyone help me with this?
[20:08] <GR1M0R4CL3> im creating a ubuntu account to report this problem
[20:09] <GR1M0R4CL3> perhaps there's some log file i can upload so someone can fix this I hope :)
[20:10] <GR1M0R4CL3> mmm got launchpad but no idea how to report a bug
[20:12] <frad> what music library for large libraries (60,000 items) should I use? rhythmbox only allows for one source (I have 4), neither deadbeef nor clementine doesn't allow to mass rename files or edit metadata like gmusicbrowser did
[20:14] <Munsko> What you want to do? reproduce them randomly?
[20:14] <thelounge9820> Got an issue where my OS will have HDMI as the only available audio output. Unable to switch back to built-in laptop speakers (or plugged in headphones). Unplugging HDMI results in 'Dummy Output'. Reboot is the only solution so far.
[20:14] <Munsko> You could reproduce a folder if u want
[20:15] <Munsko> but not 60k
[20:15] <Munsko> i think
[20:16] <frad> well, sort em by tree structure, set several ssd as source for the files (3), mass editing the metadata (year, track number, artist...), don't crash after loading 60k files...
[20:17] <GR1M0R4CL3> created a bug report. that ubuntu-bug program is very nice :)
[20:20] <GR1M0R4CL3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1879389
[20:20] <GR1M0R4CL3> yup that one
[20:20] <GR1M0R4CL3> seems to happen much more frequently when using intellij.
[20:20] <frad> gmusicbrowser mastered all this. I don't know why is discontinued
[20:20] <GR1M0R4CL3> no idea why. perhaps it does something weird with xorg
[20:22] <GR1M0R4CL3> machine is new so i guess such little things can happen :p
[20:28] <DouglasK> mgedmin, On watching mem usage, cups was claiming more and more memory. it was up to 31GB after about 2 hours.  As I don't print from that box, cups is now disabled.
[20:28] <DouglasK> Now to update to 20.04.
[20:29] <Neeknaim> Hello
[20:29] <tfam> I have ~20 laptops I’m going to image with Ubuntu. I also have a disk cloner. if I do my setup on one then clone the disk will I be able to just stick the cloned disks back in and be up and running?
[20:29] <oerheks> tfam, no.
[20:29] <Neeknaim> I've messed up grub while trying to install kubuntu 20.04 on a different drive. Can someone give me a lead how I can sort this?
[20:30] <oerheks> you need to adjust fstab with the new UUIDs.
[20:30] <Neeknaim> I had a kubuntu 18.04 on sda (encrypted). I installed kubuntu 20.04 on sde now (also encrypted), but now I can't load kubuntu 18.04 (on sda). When I select the drive in the boot menu I get either a "dead" grub screen saying "gnu grub version 2.04. Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible commands..." or when I select a different drive I get  this message saying: "reboot an select proper
[20:30] <Neeknaim> boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key". I've lost the screen where I type my password on sda. How can I start fixing this?
[20:30] <DouglasK> tfam: No.  At a bare minimum they need unique hostnames and fstab uuids.
[20:30] <tfam> so if I update the fstab and hostname then I’ll be okay?
[20:31] <tfam> didn’t even think of fstab tbh
[20:31] <DouglasK> tfam, I'd advise against it.  Look on the Ubuntu site for corporate rollouts.  They'll have the info you need.
[20:31] <DouglasK> I do corp rollout stuff for my paid job, but that's on the software side, not the OS side... and I'm not working today. :P
[20:32] <tfam> shame it’s not a good idea for me
[20:32] <tfam> hahah thanks for the help 😁
[20:34] <DouglasK> tfam, welcome.  My normal reason for popping in here is "I canna figure out what to google to fix my challenge".
[20:34] <DouglasK> tfam, this might help: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxadmin/comments/7ze92w/best_tools_to_deploy_ubuntu_desktop_on_200/
[20:55] <CarlFK> where can I get an SD image for raspberry pi?
[20:57] <oerheks>  pi server images , https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
[20:58] <CarlFK> thanks
[20:58] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi
[20:58] <oerheks> there is a mention of kubuntu-desktop... too heavy for Pi2/3/4
[21:08] <hogdog> hello, the sound used to work on my laptop and suddenly quit.  I did many things with alsamixer and other random answers and the steps here and haven't gotten anywhere.  What should I try next?
[21:09] <younder> meet the one liner df uncluttered: df -h | grep -Ev '^/dev/loop|^tmpfs|^udev' | awk '{printf "%-10s %5s %5s %5s %5s\n", $6, $2, $3, $4, $5}'   It shows a df -f withot device and removes tmpfs and loop devices introduced by snap.
[21:10] <ecdhe> hogdog: boot ubuntu from a USB stick or DVD to check if the sound works in an uncorrupted software environment
[21:10] <hogdog> I have dual boot windows and it still works there when I boot into it
[21:11] <oerheks> younder, nice one..
[21:12] <akem> hogdog, Can you change the volume in alsamixer, do you see PCM, microphone etc? The vertical bars. With F6 you can select the sound device, it could be set to HDMI or something. But booting a live Ubuntu on USB may tell if an update broke the sounds maybe...
[21:13] <akem> Like hogdog said.
[21:14] <hogdog> ok I'll make a live stick
[21:14] <algid> anyone know how i can reset my bluetooth without rebooting repeatedly
[21:14] <akem> I mean ecdhe.
[21:15] <akem> hogdog, Also try to see if the modules are loaded with something like: lsmod | grep -i snd
[21:15] <algid> if my headphone charge goes out or if i use the headphones on my phone, or sometimes just randomly, if i want to reconnect them i have to remove the device and then reboot twice (unplug and remove the battery) before it will connect again
[21:15] <ecdhe> algid: rebuild kernel with bluetooth as module, then rmmod and modprobe it to reset it
[21:15] <b3lt3r> younder: Outstanding! Thank you
[21:15] <PaowZ> hi there ! how can I know what udev rule is run when I plug an USB thumb into the system ?
[21:16] <algid> cool, how likely do you think that is to work?
[21:16] <ecdhe> algid: I have the same issue as you on a laptop I use.  I haven't checked if the bluetooth driver is already built as a module or not, but this would be my strategy
[21:16] <akem> You can't ask people to rebuild the kernel on #ubuntu...
[21:16] <algid> based on the crazy routine i have to follow now
[21:16] <algid> is that a dell laptop by any chance?
[21:16] <ecdhe> algid: how did you know?
[21:16] <algid> crazy
[21:17] <algid> does this solution work for you ?
[21:17] <ecdhe> dell picks the cheapest stuff, windows doesn't even ship with drivers for half of the cheap chips Dell picks
[21:17] <algid> or you haven't tried it
[21:17] <ecdhe> algid: like I said, I haven't gotten there yet, but I have another thing to try
[21:18] <ecdhe> algid: on my HP laptop, the wifi was going out from time to time, I couldn't get it back with rfkill then rfunkill
[21:18] <Jordan_U> algid: Bluetooth is a module on Ubuntu kernels already.
[21:18] <ecdhe> I opened the case, removed the wifi card, cleaned the contacts, and replaced it... my wifi stopped going out
[21:18] <hogdog> akem, if I see an entry for snd_hda_intel, that means it loaded, right? I'm a beginner
[21:19] <algid> Jordan_U: this is 16.04, not sure if that makes a dif
[21:19] <akem> hogdog, You should see more than 1 line, many entries snd_*
[21:20] <ecdhe> algid: if your laptop has any age, it is possible it just needs to be
[21:20] <ecdhe> reseated
[21:20] <ecdhe> I fixed an intermittent wifi issue on the dell laptop the same way
[21:21] <algid> ecdhe the thing about this is that the condition is not erratic or intermittent in any way, it works exactly the same way every time
[21:21] <akem> hogdog, Something like that: https://pastebin.com/Zz7RyQgz
[21:21] <ecdhe> algid: sounds good
[21:21] <algid> i simply have to cold reboot twice
[21:21] <algid> that is not good though
[21:22] <algid> not even good for the laptop probably
[21:22] <hogdog> akem: https://pastebin.com/S41R1MCz
[21:22] <hogdog> what does one learn from this
[21:23] <ecdhe> algid: have you tried rfkill to modulate the enablement of your peripheral?
[21:23] <akem> hogdog, It looks good, it means the sound drivers are loaded.
[21:24] <hogdog> akem is output from lspci useful or should I just make the boot stick?
[21:25] <akem> hogdog, Yeah try with Live USB Ubuntu, i suggest 20.04.
[21:28] <SomethingGeneric> Hi guys! I'm having some trouble with Minecraft on Ubuntu. Strangely, the latest version of the game works fine, but when I try to change to older versions for mods, it doesn't work. Any version below 1.15.2 won't load
[21:40] <oerheks> SomethingGeneric, so it is not a minecraft issue, but a mod problem? nothing we can do about that, contact the mod maintainer?
[21:41] <SomethingGeneric> oerheks, haven't added forge or the mod though. The older version of the stock game won't load
[21:41] <SomethingGeneric> So I can't even *try* to mod it
[21:42] <Jordan_U> algid: Now might be a good time to do a fresh install of Ubuntu 20.04, after testing that it works reliably with your headphones in a LiveUSB environment.
[21:45] <eelstrebor> i really hate these conflicts between snap, synaptic and the software installer app - i ended up with 2 versions of vlc (1 from synaptic, the other  from software installer) which caused a lot of problems with vlc - the vlc that comes from snap doesn't function at all (looks like some kind of permissions issue)
[21:47] <oerheks> some snaps give options; softwarecenter > installed > snapname > permissions
[22:06] <SomethingGeneric> Nevermind, a simple re-install fixed the issue.... :/
[22:44] <Neeknaim> I've messed up grub while trying to install kubuntu 20.04 on a different drive. Can someone give me a lead how I can sort this?
[22:44] <Neeknaim> I had a kubuntu 18.04 on sda (encrypted). I installed kubuntu 20.04 on sde now (also encrypted), but now I can't load kubuntu 18.04 (on sda). When I select the drive in the boot menu I get either a "dead" grub screen saying "gnu grub version 2.04. Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible commands..." or when I select a different drive I get  this message saying: "reboot an select proper
[22:44] <Neeknaim> boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key". I've lost the screen where I type my password on sda. How can I start fixing this?
[22:45] <Neeknaim> I have a backup from a few days ago (before latest update). I'm wondering if I can just copy the backup to the /boot partition
[22:47] <oerheks> both encrypted.. is this an UEFI machine?
[22:49] <Neeknaim> yes
[22:50] <Neeknaim> I detached the HD with the kubuntu 20.04 now. I don't want to have a mixup. Just want to save the 18.04 one
[22:51] <Neeknaim> oerheks: Any idea what I can do?
[22:52] <oerheks> if it still fails after removing sde, try bootrepair ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:52] <Munsko> Have you tried run a livecd and enter to your 18.04 folder or that isnt possible?
[22:52] <oerheks> the encrypted part worries me
[22:53] <Munsko> Oh
[22:54] <Munsko> I think the problem is that grub the "new grub" doesnt recognize the old instalation because was encrypted
[22:54] <Munsko> Or something like that
[23:07] <Steven_M> Hi, what's the best way to set the default umask in Ubuntu 20.04?
[23:11] <oerheks> Steven_M, i think in your ~/.profile  or /etc/profile systemwide
[23:12] <Steven_M> oerheks: cool, thanks. :-)
[23:15] <pyzozord> hey I have this weird vertical bar/stripe. It looks like a glitch but I can move it around like a window. But can't close it. It looks like this https://paste.pics/f011940acefb01ed1d991c622e55e2ba
[23:16] <pyzozord> what is it and how do I get rid of it?
[23:17] <kaleido> got a runaway window? looks like a scroll bar.
[23:17] <oerheks> good spot, kaleido
[23:21] <Jordan_U> pyzozord: Run "xwininfo" then click the mysterious scroll bar.
[23:23] <hogdog> akem - I booted from the live disk and sound worked perfectly.  I'm still on 18, would upgrading solve the issue do you think?
[23:25] <hogdog> ecdhe - I loaded from live usb and the sound worked, what does that tell us
[23:25] <Neeknaim> Munsko: I also think it doesn't recognize the old one because of encryption.
[23:25] <akem> hogdog, Yeah i would try updating then upgrading.
[23:26] <akem> I had a freezing issue with my intel graphic drivers, and upgrading fixed the issue.
[23:26] <hogdog> akem ok cool thank you
[23:30] <Jordan_U> Neeknaim: Shouldn't be too hard to add an entry for booting into 18.04 from your 20.04 install. Does your 18.04 install use a separate /boot/ partition or is /boot/ also encrypted? (Most likely, you have a separate /boot/ partition).
[23:30] <pyzozord> Jordan_U: it's ibus-ui-gtk3
[23:31] <Jordan_U> pyzozord: Do you use ibus for typing in Chinese or other languages?
[23:31] <Neeknaim> Jordan_U: 18.04 was installed to sda. sda1 was the boot partition (AFAIK), when doing 'fdisk -l' it showed "EFI System". sda3 was the encrypted root of 18.04
[23:33] <Jordan_U> Neeknaim: Your EFI System Partition is not the same as your /boot/ partition. My guess is that sda2 is an unencrypted ext4 partition. Is that correct? (Or, please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo blkid").
[23:33] <Neeknaim> Jordan_U: From my investigation it seems that now sda1 has only an "EFI" directory, and all the files that were in sda1 (initrd, vmlinuz...) are gone
[23:33] <pyzozord> Jordan_U: no. I only use polish and english.
[23:34] <Neeknaim> Jordan_U: I'm checking again
[23:39] <Neeknaim> Jordan_U: You need blkid with the sde 'kubuntu 20.04' mounted on the pc or it can be detached?
[23:40] <Neeknaim> Jordan_U: (because it's currently not connected)
[23:45] <Neeknaim> Oh, It seems that I've lost Jordan_U
[23:47] <Neeknaim> Does anyone know what was the direction for the solution he was aiming to? I think he was correct with his assumptions
[23:48] <Neeknaim> Jordan_U: Are you back?
[23:50] <Fevix> I just installed Ubuntu on a new machine, but it doesn't seem to be outputting video. Is there some way, with an existing UBuntu install, to remote into the other computer to see if it's actually running properly
[23:50] <Jordan_U> Neeknaim: Yes. Mostly right now I'm interested in info about sda, but eventually we'll want to configure things on sde as well.
[23:51] <Neeknaim> ok, can I send you the pastebin link in pm?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> Fevix: Did you get video output during installation?
[23:51] <akem> Fevix, You need to have sshd installed at least.
[23:51] <Jordan_U> Neeknaim: It shouldn't have anything you need to keep secret, but you may PM me the link if you'd like.
[23:52] <Fevix> THe drive was prepared on another machine and migrated into its current machine
[23:52] <Neeknaim> thanks
[23:53] <Neeknaim> Jordan_U: I think you're correct with the assumption that that sda2 in an unencrypted ext4 partition
[23:54] <Neeknaim> Jordan_U: btw, I'm now using a liveUSB of kubuntu 18.04 in order to get this data from the machine. (I thought it might be important to mention that I'm not using a kubuntu 20.04 liveUSB, in case we wish to install kernels using it)
[23:58] <Jordan_U> Neeknaim: I've written a custom.cfg file for you. It contains the UUID of your /boot/ partition, which is in no way secret information. Do you mind if I post the link to it in the channel?
[23:58] <Neeknaim> I don't understand how sda1 which says (TYPE="vfat" PARTLABEL="EFI System Partition") is the boot partition, while sda2 which is ext4 is the "EFI" partion (while it's not called that way). But I'm a layman here.
[23:58] <Neeknaim> Jordan_U: Can you pm me the link?
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Neeknaim: sda2 is not the EFI partition, it's the /boot/ partition. They're two different things. In a normal Ubuntu install, the /boot/ partition is mounted to /boot/ and the EFI System Partition is mounted to /boot/efi/ .
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Neeknaim: Sure.