[01:02] <callmepk> good morning
[05:26]  * ricotz mumbles about initramfs
[06:01] <jibel> hi all
[06:35] <didrocks> good morning
[06:39] <duflu> Hi jibel and didrocks 
[06:39] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[07:18] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[07:23] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:27] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson, salut oSoMoN 
[07:28] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[07:45] <duflu> Morning marcustomlinson and oSoMoN 
[07:50] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, marcustomlinson 
[07:52] <marcustomlinson> hey didrocks oSoMoN and duflu
[08:07] <Laney> moin
[08:07] <Laney> realised I forgot to write my status yesterday and did that before saying hi :>
[08:08] <oSoMoN> hey Laney 
[08:10] <seb128> hey Laney, oSoMoN, marcustomlinson, duflu, didrocks, how are you?
[08:10] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:10] <seb128> Laney, you still beat Trevinho and jamesh :)
[08:11] <Laney> hey oSoMoN seb128 duflu 
[08:11] <Laney> yeah good, nice and sunny
[08:12] <duflu> Surely jamesh is just too focused for this IRC fluff
[08:14] <Laney> mayube if we say jamesh some more then jamesh will come and say hi to us
[08:16] <oSoMoN> hello jamesh :)
[08:17] <jamesh> hi everyone :-)
[08:17] <duflu> Hi Dr James
[08:47] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney seb128 and jamesh
[08:47] <marcustomlinson> seb128: doing alright thanks, you?
[08:48] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I'm fine thanks
[08:52] <GunnarHj> Good morning!
[08:53] <luna_> hi
[08:53] <GunnarHj> seb128: You may want to sync ibus from Debian.
[08:53] <GunnarHj> Hey luna
[08:53] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, k, I trust you and just sync right? ;)
[08:54] <GunnarHj> seb128: I think you can trust me in this case, yes. :)
[09:54] <ricotz> good morning desktopers
[10:04] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you today?
[10:13] <ricotz> seb128, good, and you? :)
[10:13] <ricotz> I am hoping for a day without regressions ;)
[10:14] <ricotz> although already got bitten by initramfs
[10:15] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[10:15] <seb128> :)
[10:15] <seb128> oh?
[10:17] <ricotz> I got welcomed with a kernel panic this morning
[10:17] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/0.137ubuntu2
[10:19] <oSoMoN> ouch
[10:19] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz 
[10:24] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hey
[10:33] <Laney> I mean we do tell people not to run devel-proposed
[10:48] <ricotz> still it is the pocket to build test things against
[12:25] <Trevinho> eh, I wrote the status yesterday... but didn't finish and now... latop turn off and firefox didn't restore it :(
[12:32] <oSoMoN> blame firefox!
[12:35] <mgedmin> the new "the dog ate my homework"! ;)
[12:46] <oSoMoN> yeah, except it's not a dog, it's a fire fox :)
[13:25] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: well not really firefox issue, more discord one  I suppose
[13:28] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, I was just kidding… I personally tend not to trust web apps to save drafts for me, and when I mess up and they did their job correctly, I'm pleasantly surprised (but for anything longer than one sentence, I almost always have a backup in a text file, just in case)
[13:30] <seb128> k, let's do it
[13:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-05-19
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May 19 13:30:17 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:30] <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel (out), kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:30] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:30] <kenvandine> o/
[13:30] <marcustomlinson> o/
[13:30] <Trevinho> o/
[13:31] <seb128> I hope everyone is doing fine! let's get starte
[13:31] <seb128> d
[13:31] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
[13:31] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:31] <hellsworth> o/
[13:31] <seb128> no desktop section
[13:31] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <seb128> bug #645404
[13:32] <seb128> ok, that's probably not a new one, but I subscribed our team to software-properties
[13:33] <seb128> it's mostly UI and include things we work on like drivers install and livepatch
[13:33] <Laney> yeah sounds like notfixing
[13:33] <didrocks> agreed, I don’t think this is where our priorities live nowdays
[13:33] <seb128> +1 from me
[13:34] <seb128> k, that's it for bionic
[13:34] <didrocks> (that was a +1 on our -1? :))
[13:35] <seb128> (yes, sorry :p)
[13:35] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
[13:35] <Trevinho> whishlist IMHO, but, do we use it anyway?
[13:35] <oSoMoN> re that software-properties bug, should we review ddstreet's MR ?
[13:35] <Trevinho> a see a rejected, but didn't go further
[13:35] <seb128> would be nice if someone wants to do it, but probably not a priority atm
[13:36] <seb128> anyway, we can discuss that after the meeting if we want, moving on
[13:36] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:36] <seb128> I cleaned most of the list but still some tiding up to do, sorry
[13:36] <seb128> bug #1859308
[13:36] <seb128> I tagged that one, it comes often enough
[13:37] <seb128> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/477114653/additionaldrivers.png
[13:37] <Trevinho> yeah, I'm removing few champagne I suppose to clean those addressed
[13:37] <seb128> screenshots are better than long description :p
[13:37] <didrocks> yeah, sounds worth fixing
[13:38] <didrocks> the UI is otherwise confusing
[13:38] <seb128> ^ that screenshot show the issue; the hardware is working and it's unclear why other items aren't selectable
[13:38] <seb128> also it has an greyed out option selected
[13:38] <oSoMoN> definitely something that should be investigated
[13:38] <hellsworth> +1 for fixing
[13:39] <seb128> oSoMoN, can you add it to your backlog since you started poking to software-properties in the focal cycle?
[13:39] <seb128> assuming it's a yes and moving on :p
[13:39] <seb128> next one is in the same category
[13:39] <seb128> bug #1878553
[13:40] <seb128> easier to reproduce since it's not hardware depending
[13:41] <seb128> not major but I think another one that might be nice to fix
[13:41] <seb128> could be the same logic error/bug than the previous one
[13:41] <hellsworth> a lot of new users use virtual box and quickly find the addons. it would be frustrating to hit this.
[13:41] <didrocks> yeah, could be the same
[13:41] <seb128> I vote +1 
[13:41] <Trevinho> +1
[13:41] <seb128> oSoMoN, you can get a combo for the same price, lucky! :p
[13:41] <seb128> k, deal :)
[13:42] <seb128> next, bug #1876510	
[13:42] <oSoMoN> seb128, yeah, I'll take those
[13:42] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks!
[13:43] <seb128> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/477982627/Screenshot%20from%202020-05-02%2020-34-56.png shows the buttons still half visible, I expect they would be clickable
[13:43] <hellsworth> yeah the print dialog in LO seems pretty problematic. i think my 14" laptop has this screen size
[13:43] <seb128> so on that basis I'm leaning toward -1 for nomination
[13:44] <hellsworth> i suppose you're right. you can still half see the buttons
[13:44] <seb128> 768 is low, my 10 years latitude on the same factor is 1920x1080
[13:44] <kenvandine> i think as long as you can tell they are there
[13:44] <hellsworth> that puts me in the -1 camp
[13:44] <kenvandine> -1
[13:45] <seb128> k, would still be worth reporting upstream and fixing but let's rls-ff-notfixing then
[13:45] <hellsworth> i'll take the action to report upstream
[13:46] <kenvandine> 1366x768 is the dominate screen resolution though
[13:46] <kenvandine> https://gs.statcounter.com/screen-resolution-stats/desktop/worldwide
[13:46] <seb128> thx
[13:46] <kenvandine> but as long as it's clear the buttons are there, i'm -1
[13:46] <seb128> right
[13:46] <seb128> if they would be missing or not clickable I would be +1
[13:46] <seb128> let's move on
[13:46] <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
[13:46] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:47] <seb128> leftovers and things we discussed there
[13:47] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:47] <seb128> things being handled that were not untagged, I'm doing that now
[13:48] <seb128> sorry, that report is fine :p
[13:48] <seb128> k, that's it for bugs
[13:48] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:48] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:48] <oSoMoN> I said I would look into gdk-pixbuf and I didn't, sorry about that
[13:49] <seb128> gdk-pixbuf is carded and assigned
[13:49] <seb128> no worry, you still can do that :)
[13:49] <oSoMoN> yeah, of course I'll do
[13:49] <seb128> pulseaudio started failing a test on riscv, anyone, i will talk to people
[13:49] <seb128> (same with the focal SRU :/)
[13:49] <seb128> appstream depends on libjs-highlight.js now it seems
[13:50] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/appstream/0.12.11-1
[13:50] <seb128> we could revert the change if needed but probably best to try to MIR it
[13:50] <seb128> I'm also unsure why it's a runtime depends?
[13:51] <seb128> who wants to investigage that one?
[13:51] <didrocks> if we want to MIR it, I can pre-check if needed
[13:51] <Laney> put appstream-doc in universe
[13:52] <didrocks> or that, if it’s only doc related
[13:52] <seb128> k, that solution works for me :)
[13:52] <seb128> Laney, thx
[13:52] <kenvandine> +1
[13:53] <seb128> other things are candidate or grey/new so let's see if they are still there next week
[13:53] <seb128> and that's it for this section
[13:53] <seb128> #topic  AOB
[13:53] <seb128> anything else?
[13:54] <didrocks> nothing for me
[13:54] <Trevinho> all clear here
[13:55] <seb128> k, seems like it's a wrap then!
[13:55] <hellsworth> thanks!
[13:55] <seb128> thanks!
[13:55] <oSoMoN> thanks
[13:56] <seb128> #endmeeting
[13:56] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue May 19 13:56:05 2020 UTC.  
[13:56] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-05-19-13.30.moin.txt
[13:56] <Laney> those software-properies ones should be accepted right?
[13:58] <Trevinho> at least one is in Olivier's plate, while the other may be related too.
[13:59] <Laney> well it's currently sitting with incoming still, if not fixed we will end up coming back to it next week
[14:04] <oSoMoN> accepted
[14:05] <Laney> thanks
[14:06] <Laney> but needs targetting too (done)
[14:06] <ricotz> are there reports about performances problems of the desktop (gnome-shell) recently?
[14:10] <seb128> Laney, oSoMoN, thanks, I stopped fighthing launchpad during the meeting but oten fails to do it directly after and forgot, I need to find a better way to deal with those
[14:10] <seb128> ricotz, duflu would know better, nothing major from what I saw from daily triaging though
[14:11] <ricotz> could be an issue with accessing the SSD here too :\
[14:12] <ricotz> which would cause any kind of slow down
[14:36] <tintou> Hi everyone, one very annoying issue when developing in Focal is the criticals warnings that are thrown by libproxy in the GNOME environment, is there any plan to backport the patches for it (they are in Debian and I belive in Groovy given the version number)? I couldn't find anything in update_excuses or in the backport repo
[14:39] <Laney> tintou: you mean 29c908647eec8e05674ba1c298d4f1c565d9f872 ?
[14:40] <tintou> exactly
[14:41] <Laney> no plans atm, if you have some time / inclination then filing a bug according to the template https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#SRU_Bug_Template would help a lot
[14:45] <seb128> tintou, bug #1875558 is in progress
[14:45] <seb128> but Laney's commit is another one
[14:45] <seb128> ah, sorry, different vcs I guess
[14:45] <seb128> if that's the one you are talking about that's the bug reference ^
[14:46] <Laney> it's the same commit, bug needs adjusting as I said
[14:46] <tintou> Yeah it's the same commit, okay then, I can change the bug report to match the SRU template if that makes your life easier though :)
[14:46]  * Laney thinks tintou knows about the LP bug
[14:46] <Laney> ;-)
[14:47] <seb128> tintou, if you could update if for SRU compliance it would be nice indeed
[14:47] <seb128> it's on my backlog but didn't to it yet
[14:47] <seb128> I subscribed sponsors but everyone is busy
[14:47] <tintou> Okay, will do, thanks for the update anyway :)
[14:47] <seb128> np!
[14:48] <Laney> good to re-confirm what I said ...
[19:31] <lool> Hi! I'm trying to display gdm greeter on an arm board, but it seems to launch a wayland session instead of a Xorg one
[19:32] <lool> Xorg works if I launch it manually, if I look in the list of processes, I see /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session on the board
[19:32] <lool> (on my x86 desktop, I see /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session)
[19:34] <lool> Hmm I se WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf, let's ese