[02:49] <Shirubio> hello
[02:49] <Shirubio> im have a problem with headphones
[14:00] <PanParadox> Hello there, I'm having a problem. After installing the newest update of Ubuntu Studio 20 the headphone jack stopped working. I'm using a Dell Latitude E5470. I searched on the internet for a fix but nothing worked. When I type "alsactl restore" into terminal, here's what I get: alsactl: state_lock:125: file /var/lib/alsa/asound.state lock error:
[14:00] <PanParadox> File existsalsactl: load_state:1683: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for reading: File existsFound hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC3235" "HDA:10ec0293,102806de,00100003 HDA:80862809,80860101,00100000" "0x1028" "0x06de"Hardware is initialized using a generic method
[14:03] <OvenWerks> PanParadox: do you use Jack for some of your rpojects?
[14:05] <PanParadox> Nope, just the normal sound system usage
[14:05] <OvenWerks> pulse would normally detect and raise the level of your head phones. If jack is running, then pulse does not see the headphone events
[14:06] <PanParadox> when I go to Ubuntu Studio Controls I see that Jack is stopped
[14:06] <OvenWerks> ok
[14:10] <OvenWerks> can you open that file manually? cat /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[14:10] <OvenWerks> should give a screen of text
[14:14] <OvenWerks> also does pavucontrol show headphones as an option for output from any applications?
[14:15] <PanParadox> Ah, problem solved. I installed a new update just now and it works. Looks like the support team works really fast. Thank you sir for your time, I was really worried the last two days ;-)
[14:15] <OvenWerks> ah great.
[14:16] <OvenWerks> our support for headphones while jack is running is in the works... but it is not there yet. But support while jack is not rynning should just work.
[15:33] <nf9c> Through refind I have spotted 2 icons that both load UbuntuStudio 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla). What I want to know is, why does clicking on one of them show me the boot up process whith a standard white text label of Ubuntu Studio,  and the other icon I can click on to launch Ubuntu Studio, doesn't show me the bootup process just the white text confirming what Linux distro I'm booting into that has a blueish glow surrounding the letters.  Pleaase
[15:33] <nf9c> note that I realize that this is a pre alpha release and that at least to me I don't see this as a bug for reFind but quite possibly has to do with an efi configuration file of which maybe there is 2 different versions??? I don't know, which is why I am asking this question here
[15:36] <OvenWerks> nf9c: what is refind?
[15:36] <PLC> hi' there :)
[15:37] <nf9c> sorry um refind is nothing but a graphical bootloader
[15:37] <Eickmeyer> nf9c: Per this, refind by default looks for both kernels and .efi files in the ESP (EFI System Partition). Beyond that, I have no clue. Here's the documentation for refind. As I have said before, we don't support refind. Rule of thumb, if it's not in the repos, it's not supported. :)
[15:37] <Eickmeyer> nf9c: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[15:38] <OvenWerks> The ISO menu also has two entries, one with graphics and one without
[15:38] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: That doesn't even matter in this case.
[15:38] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: refind is basically a replacement for grub.
[15:40] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I am guessing it solves some short coming in grub?
[15:41] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Not exactly. It's just "pretty".
[15:41] <OvenWerks> so shortcoming = ugly
[15:41] <Eickmeyer> It's mostly for Apple Mac computers.
[15:41] <nf9c> um well It also allows my to see all 12 of my distros
[15:42] <nf9c> Grub for whatever reason won't
[15:42] <OvenWerks> grub seems to be able to have rather large menus as well.
[15:42] <OvenWerks> I have not tried 12 though
[15:42] <OvenWerks> half that maybe.
[15:43] <OvenWerks> with pretty dense menus
[15:43] <Eickmeyer> nf9c: look in http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/configfile.html, pay attention to the "scanfor" area. That should answer your question. Other than that, we can't help.
[15:44] <OvenWerks> Each entry has it's default plus two entries for each kernel.
[15:44] <Eickmeyer> I stand corrected. Looks like refind is in the repos.
[15:44] <Eickmeyer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/refind
[15:46] <Eickmeyer> (last time I checked it wasn't)
[15:47] <nf9c> Eickmeyer: I  appreciate the info
[15:48] <nf9c> Eickmeyer: I  appreciate the info
[15:48] <nf9c> why do my entries show up that way here when referring to someone?
[15:48] <nf9c> never mind
[15:49] <nf9c> just being dumb
[15:49] <Eickmeyer> nf9c: It's all good. :)
[16:54] <nf9c> Eickmeyer: I know this is message to you is a bit long but please read all the way to the end.  oh ok again I stand corrected and I really didn't mean to be asking in the wrong spot earlier.   Sorry sorry a few last things about this, Aside from what someone else already suggested about there possibly being a "Silen Kernel" option which I would like to ask is there such an an option/code that could be partly what's going on?  Again I'm brand
[16:54] <nf9c> spanking new to the whole world of Linux.   Are you aware of the Blueish glow logo/lettering that I am speaking of, in either case I guess I would like to add somethining that I thought my be helpful...  I get the blue glow text when I select the option though reFind that sends me to a "custom grub bootlader???" To select from Ubuntu Studio with that option being listed at the top among other distros to choose from...which is what produces
[16:54] <nf9c> the results previously mentioned with the Blueish glowing White text logo for Ubuntu Studio that doesn't show the boot up process at all.    With the other option that I found to click on that boots up Ubuntu Studio, it boots straight into launching Ubuntu Studio showing the entire bootup process of loading kernels, mounting stuff, etc...   I didn't want to leave today without throwing out there what I have just asked as I feel like maybe I
[16:54] <nf9c> might have been leaving out something important that you as a developer of this project if you are a developer of this project that might be able to help you to better answer my question.
[16:56] <nf9c> sorry guys didn't mean to post that here for all to read
[16:56] <Eickmeyer> nf9c: We don't even use refind by default. We use grub as our bootloader. Use of refind is completely outside of our scope and the use of refind is up to the person configuring it (you).
[16:58] <Eickmeyer> That bluish-glowing white text logo is our default splash while loading. It's expected.
[16:58] <Eickmeyer> So, that tells me that one option loads the kernel directly, while the other goes through grub.
[16:58] <Eickmeyer> Completely outside of anything we can configure on our end, nf9c .
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> That is 100% in your refind configuration.
[17:00] <nf9c> Eickmeyer: ok thanks! That's all I really wanted to know.  If I could mark my question as "Solved" like you would on message boards I would! THanks
[17:01] <Eickmeyer> nf9c: You're welcome.
[17:09] <OvenWerks> las the jist of my comment was that no matter who you chose, someone(s) would label them evil.
[17:10] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: ?
[17:11] <OvenWerks> opps wrong channel or mistaken up key not sure.
[17:11] <Eickmeyer> That said, I agree with the comment. :)
[17:12] <OvenWerks> it was in regard to the choice of paypal.
[17:12] <Eickmeyer> Heh
[17:13] <OvenWerks> they have the best (least) cost for "micro payments"