[00:16] <kc2bez> Oh hey that is better. I think I am getting somewhere. Had to do a little changelog foo to get apt-ghetto's automirror fix in there. And futz with the ubuntu-studio translation stuff but I have a package now.
[00:42] <Eickmeyer> kc2bez: \o/
[00:56] <kc2bez> Ok I have it built locally Eickmeyer . I need @tsimonq2 's help though. It looks like he broke phab for me XD. I can't seem to push it.
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Ok I have it built locally Eickmeyer . I need @tsimonq2 's help though. …], Waaat?
[00:58] <kc2bez> "You do not have permission to push to this repository."
 On it
[00:58] <kc2bez> Ok, thanks.
 I see lubuntu builds for: … architectures: amd64 armhf arm64 ppc64el s390x riscv64 … (source: meta)
 arch:all build
 Does Ubuntu Cinnamon need to have these or do they just need amd64
 @tsimonq2 [arch:all build], also why is debootstrap needed as a dep for your meta?
 @ItzSwirlz [Does Ubuntu Cinnamon need to have these or do they just need amd64], You can just have amd64 if you want
 @tsimonq2 [You can just have amd64 if you want], whatever is easier :P
 LM is 64-bit only
 But you'd be surprised at how many arches people use flavors on
 @ItzSwirlz [also why is debootstrap needed as a dep for your meta?], It's needed to regen the seeds. Seed updates aren't done manually
 @tsimonq2 [But you'd be surprised at how many arches people use flavors on], This is going to sound blatant-but just tell me. What arches do I need.
 @ItzSwirlz [This is going to sound blatant-but just tell me. What arches do I need.], !(i386)
 In the long run it simply doesn't matter
 @tsimonq2 [!(i386)], yeah no lol
 All packages are built for all arches anyway
 So by having built packages and no meta you're robbing yourself
 @tsimonq2 [All packages are built for all arches anyway], even if they say just amd64?
 @tsimonq2 [So by having built packages and no meta you're robbing yourself], we got meta-we just want to bump compat from 7 to 11 which you already did
 @ItzSwirlz [even if they say just amd64?], I'm willing to bet all of Cinnamon is built for more than amd64, or will be
 so I'm looking at it right now
 @tsimonq2 [I'm willing to bet all of Cinnamon is built for more than amd64, or will be], let the virtual machines be the judge
 well if you say so :/
 (Photo, 157x41) https://i.imgur.com/KsinEtL.jpg
 Yeah. Every package we build builds for all architecture
 I would say Debian builds for a handful of 64-bits-they support:
 amd64 … arm64 … armel … armhf … mips64el … mipsel … ppc64el … s390x
 And I will TOTALLY pretend I understood all of that.
 correction-do not build armel
 or..-
 It targets old 32-bit devices. Lubuntu seems to love arm so I'll take it
 @ItzSwirlz [amd64 … arm64 … armel … armhf … mips64el … mipsel … ppc64el … s390x], All of these are 64-bit
 I don't think having like-4 or 6 files or whatever is necessary-I think a script should automatically create them by copying the file and renaming-THEN building. Just my idea.
 Of course I'll have do so some testing but it's the least of my worries
 For now, lets fix this garbage: … https://github.com/Ubuntu-Cinnamon-Remix/ubuntucinnamon-spices/tree/master/debian
 This is my trash project that contains like-65 MB of Cinnamon Applets, Desklets, and Extensions (combined total) and it's debian packaging will make you all want to die
 @ItzSwirlz [For now, lets fix this garbage: … https://github.com/Ubuntu-Cinnamon-Remix/ubuntuc …], I've seen worse
 @tsimonq2 [I've seen worse], you sure
 mine is so dirty xD
 Yes
 Absolutely I have
 do i want to see it
 or will i loose brain cells
 @ItzSwirlz [or will i loose brain cells], This
 ;-;
 @ItzSwirlz [or will i loose brain cells], I already have :3
 ^
 @tsimonq2 [^], are you referring to the lumina packaging
 @ItzSwirlz [are you referring to the lumina packaging], I am referring to everything, icluding packaging
 mostly Calamares is biting my butt
 right now at least
 @KaiLoveLinux [mostly Calamares is biting my butt], that's literally you all the time
 i'd help you but i'm stuck with cinnamon 4.6
 it just got released on github and i've opened like 7 merge requests on salsa for one package series update
 @ItzSwirlz [are you referring to the lumina packaging], I think he is @q5sys, because it's so easy to package /s
 well i clicked it did that :/
 @tsimonq2 [I think he is @q5sys, because it's so easy to package /s], why do you disturb my slumber?
 @q5sys [why do you disturb my slumber?], b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶f̶u̶n̶-̶
 @tsimonq2 [I think he is @q5sys, because it's so easy to package /s], Fun fact, I never change anything else but changelog with packaging. While I can make it less hot garbage, it works so I am going to not fck with it until I am done with my required focus points
 @ItzSwirlz [are you referring to the lumina packaging], We dont package Lumina... that's up to the PKG maintainers
 #balme_someone_else
 lol
 So JT, Cinnamon 4.6 got released ~1 week ago and I've been importing it to Salsa debian. I saw a bunch of cool makefile stuff and I look back at my packaging and it's garbage
 and we talked about lumina desktop (very messy)
 @q5sys [#blame_someone_else], I prefer to #bame_simon
 @q5sys [We dont package Lumina... that's up to the PKG maintainers], tbh it'd be better if i could get like the trueos sourcecode or something
 or their pkg folder or whatever
 @q5sys [I prefer to #bame_simon], #blame_kai #also_bame
 i have no idea who's in charge of the debian package
 to see exactly the steps are how they built it
 that would be better
 @q5sys [i have no idea who's in charge of the debian package], It's a game of hot potato honestly
 lmao
 @ItzSwirlz [tbh it'd be better if i could get like the trueos sourcecode or something], what do you mean?  It's all open source... what do you want.
 @ItzSwirlz [It's a game of hot potato honestly], That hot potato is on this hot mess
 currently
 if i understood .pkg packaging i would know the infrastructure on how they build lumina-desktop
 so then i can translate it to debian
 transifex.com/pkg-to-deb
 lol
 ive been trying to get pkgers to reach out to me and let me know if I can fix things upstream... but none of them reply.
 @ItzSwirlz [if i understood .pkg packaging i would know the infrastructure on how they build …], you realize TrueOS is dead right?  And the TrueOS Desktop ceased being a thing in Mid 2018... hence Project Trident being started.
 @q5sys [ive been trying to get pkgers to reach out to me and let me know if I can fix th …], I am running stable editions for the reason of I really want to knock out the dummy thicc crap I need to deal with
 @q5sys [you realize TrueOS is dead right?  And the TrueOS Desktop ceased being a thing i …], or that yeah
 does trident at least maintain lumina?
 @ItzSwirlz [if i understood .pkg packaging i would know the infrastructure on how they build …], `makepkg` is how we made the package for TrueOS
 Yeah. They do use lumina
 @ItzSwirlz [does trident at least maintain lumina?], You need to stop crossing streams.  Trident is a Distro that uses Lumina.  Trident doesn't "Maintain" the desktop.
 Yeah. The thing is-
 Lumina dev happens outside of Trident, Trident uses the latest version.
 lets be honest we don't know who does smh
 The same people are involved in both, but they treat it like two different projects... because the are.
 https://github.com/lumina-desktop/
 @ItzSwirlz [lets be honest we don't know who does smh], Ken Moore and myself.
 They got it all here-but I've learned a lot through my Salsa experience
 Project Trident uses Lumina, Lumina develops lumina
 its an open source repo... you can see who the top contributors are.
 https://github.com/lumina-desktop/
 By the way guys-try to keep it quick here-this is Lubuntu Development not Lumina talk
 Sorry Simon.
 @ItzSwirlz [Sorry Simon.], No need to apologize... one of these days he'll switch to Lumina. ;)
 and he wont even have to change the distro name
 lol
 But... but
 @q5sys [No need to apologize... one of these days he'll switch to Lumina. ;)], One day I was literally looking through the lumina source files
 I already told him as much at SELF a while ago.
 Startup sound: So peaceful.
 Shutdown sound: Also peaceful
 THEN THE LOW BATTERY SOUND:
 @q5sys [No need to apologize... one of these days he'll switch to Lumina. ;)], but the lumina remix is my job
 (BIG DRUM HITTING)
 battery sound go BOOM
 oooh telegram has markdown
 yay
 *thonk*
 awa
 Calamares go brrrrr?
 I have been completely useless in this convo
 @Eickmeyer [Calamares go brrrrr?], brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 @q5sys [battery sound go BOOM], 0:15 in vid
 @Eickmeyer [Calamares go brrrrr?], Calamares is gonna need me to wait for a graphic designer to finish their amazing work that they were kind enough to offer
 @ItzSwirlz [0:15 in vid], you can change those with lumina-conig
 @q5sys [you can change those with lumina-config], conig
 hehe
 if you want
 sorry
 it's weird
 but yeah
 I use the W95 startup and shutdown sounds.
 tbh
 i feel like an idiot
 just because at confernces it freaks people out
 why have i not packaged this for you @KaiLoveLinux
 @KaiLoveLinux Oh, I'm already done configuring for Studio.
 @Eickmeyer [@KaiLoveLinux Oh, I'm already done configuring for Studio.], Oh did studio switch to calamares?
 @Eickmeyer [@KaiLoveLinux Oh, I'm already done configuring for Studio.], I haven't even done 20.04 :D
 Studio did! They are an older flavor, so lets trust them rather than Lubuntu-
 jk
 studio was either 2nd or 3rd to come out iirc
 @ItzSwirlz We're gonna have to. I can't count on the Ubuntu Foundations team to fix ubiquity-kde at anything faster than a glacier's pace.
 @Eickmeyer [@ItzSwirlz We're gonna have to. I can't count on the Ubuntu Foundations team to …], KDE's Ubiquity is sort of weird.
 It's like calamares but sort of isn't
 it's a mix of both
 Studio was technically 4th behind Kubuntu, Edubuntu, and Xubuntu.
 ***yes, lubuntu can't be trusted***
 @ItzSwirlz ubiquity-kde is hardcoded to be Kubuntu.
 hm
 Erich do you want me to setup a quick studio fork for you?
 although its.. 10:25 pm
 I'm already way ahead of you.
 The work on the Studio config is done.
 Until I can test, that is.
 @Eickmeyer [I'm already way ahead of you.], https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih9zBLDr_ro
 You:
 YES! HAHAHAHA!
 i thought you'd like that
 cookie?
 twitch.tv/the8bitdrummer uses that all the time when he does his stretch breaks.
 @Eickmeyer [twitch.tv/the8bitdrummer uses that all the time when he does his stretch breaks.], Oh i know it from this stream: … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ngQb5FYXnc
 Okay lets stop with the furret now
 Haha
 i am still doing good job with ubuntu lumina at least
 @kc2bez I take it you got calamares-settings-* to build?
 I did.
 Excellent. Did @tsimonq2 happen to... uh... upload it?
 hey the calamares thing is what I currently work on
 I just need to git push when Simon gives me the go ahead @Eickmeyer
 Roger that.
 I can upload after that.
 @kc2bez Ok, sounds good. I'm just twiddling my thumbs at the moment.
 Scratch that. I've been working on Fedora Jam.
 Sorry for that. I fixed up a couple of other Lubuntu->Studio things too.
 Awesome. Probably language-related stuff because ERR:NoTranslations
 I think the only translation is for the desktop file but that should be good now.
 Excellent.
 @Eickmeyer [Calamares go brrrrr?], HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 @tsimonq2 [HAHAHAHAHAHAHA], teen in car thinks funny-
 @kc2bez [I just need to git push when Simon gives me the go ahead @Eickmeyer], Oh shoot, got sidetracked
 @tsimonq2 [Oh shoot, got sidetracked], FBI OPEN UP
 (cough) sorry
 @tsimonq2 [Oh shoot, got sidetracked], No worries.
 Worries = NULL. All good
 @KaiLoveLinux dm
 WHAT
 IS THAT PROFILE PIC-
 @ItzSwirlz [IS THAT PROFILE PIC-], Pardon?
 Kai is a little bit loosing her mind.
 (look at her profile pic)
 Oof
 @ItzSwirlz [Kai is a little bit loosing her mind.], Loosing my mind is an understatement
 uhh
 kai has brain damage?
 Seems legit.
 Ok, gotta play video games with my son. He's more important than all of you.
 @Eickmeyer [Ok, gotta play video games with my son. He's more important than all of you.], Fair
 :D
 @Eickmeyer [Ok, gotta play video games with my son. He's more important than all of you.], have fun
[09:50] <tsimonq2> Hey everyone.
[09:51] <kc2bez> o/
[09:52] <tsimonq2> I'll be around for the day.
[09:53] <kc2bez> Cool. I am getting ready for work unfortunately. 
[09:54] <tsimonq2> Aw.
[10:04] <tsimonq2> Merged https://phab.lubuntu.me/D95 - thanks apt-ghetto.
[10:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Fix ModuleNotFoundError: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D95
[10:06] <tsimonq2> Triggered a nightly. No publisher maintenance so it should be over with fairly shortly.
[10:07] <tsimonq2> What I'll probably start working on is moving the stable and unstable templates to Metadata and declaring some sort of semver-style formatting there.
[10:07] <tsimonq2> Once that's done, I'll spin up a test server and try bootstrapping with some minimal packages.
[10:08] <tsimonq2> Once that nightly is done, I'm going to make Lintian return 1 on warnings too and re-trigger another nightly.
[10:08] <kc2bez> Can you poke at my git access? Then I can upload cala settings for studio. 
[10:08] <tsimonq2> Oh, right.
[10:09] <tsimonq2> I think it has something to do with the project shuffling I did the other day.
[10:09] <tsimonq2> Done. Thanks for following up.
[10:10] <kc2bez> Makes sense. I will give it try momentarily. 
[10:11] <tsimonq2> Sounds good.
[10:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCI73939dc9b5f6: Fix ModuleNotFoundError] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCI73939dc9b5f6
[10:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS394dc4f0688a: Adjust studio's translations.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS394dc4f0688a
[10:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS2f179e636f33: Drop d/compat switch to debhelper-compat.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS2f179e636f33
[10:22] <kc2bez> ok cool. uploaded and building. thanks tsimonq2 
[10:22] <tsimonq2> Nice, thanks.
[10:31] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: calamares-settings-ubuntu [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1:20.10.1] (lubuntu)
 @Eickmeyer looks like you should have something to test ^
 you have an oem install now?
[10:42] <tsimonq2> How do you mean that?
[10:43] <tsimonq2> We haven't implemented it in Lubuntu yet but it's possible.
[10:43] <tsimonq2> Currently I'm fixing a Lintian bug and then I can look into that?
 Neon are likely to use calamares for their 20.04 rebase, and I think sitter has done some work on oem
[10:44] <tsimonq2> Nice.
 oem is one of the things I don't want to lose for Kubuntu
[10:45] <tsimonq2> Agreed.
[10:45] <tsimonq2> We want it for Lubuntu as well.
[11:52] <tsimonq2> https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/merge_requests/310
[11:57] <tsimonq2> Oh yeah, do y'all remember https://discourse.phabricator-community.org/t/wrong-column-type-everywhere-other-errors-on-fresh-db-upgrade/3872 ?
[11:58] <tsimonq2> It's been causing a lot of noise on our Phab upgrades and I was able to reproduce it on a fresh install.
[11:58] <tsimonq2> That got upstream's attention and it's been fixed.
[11:58] <tsimonq2> https://secure.phabricator.com/rPf86d822a37ea2c3cb174d03be538c3752f304021 specifically.
[11:58] <tsimonq2> Once that hits the stable branch, I'll upgrade it and test.
[12:01] <tsimonq2> Hm, looks like that's tomorrow. Cool.
[14:06] <tsimonq2> kc2bez, Eickmeyer, apt-ghetto: Looks like it's in the release pocket now: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/1:20.10.1
[14:06] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: Do you need me to put on my DMB hat and add it to your packageset?
[14:08] <kc2bez> tsimonq2: lobby for lubuntu-update-notifier to get added to our packageset too. I did that a while back but I don't think it got added.
[14:08] <tsimonq2> Affirmative.
[14:09] <kc2bez> Thanks Simon.
[14:10] <tsimonq2> No worries.
[14:17] <tsimonq2> $ ./edit-acl -P lubuntu add -S groovy -s lubuntu-update-notifier
[14:17] <tsimonq2> Added:
[14:17] <tsimonq2> lubuntu-update-notifier
[14:17] <tsimonq2> $ ./edit-acl -P lubuntu add -S focal -s lubuntu-update-notifier
[14:17] <tsimonq2> Added:
[14:17] <tsimonq2> lubuntu-update-notifier
[14:20] <tsimonq2> Yep, can confirm that LP sees it.
[14:44] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Added lubuntu-update-notifier to lubuntu in focal
[14:44] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Packageset: Added lubuntu-update-notifier to lubuntu in groovy
[14:47] <kc2bez> Awesome! I think there is an update I can land in groovy tonight.
[14:47] <tsimonq2> Sweet.
 Gr8
[15:12] <tsimonq2> https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/merge_requests/311
[15:32] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: If you wouldn't mind, having calamares-settings-ubuntu in my packageset would be awesome.
[15:32] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: You're about an hour behind me dude. ;)
[15:33] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: I just woke up and got through my emails. :P
[15:33] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: Check #us-devel
[15:34] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: Thanks :)
[15:34] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: No worries. :)
 https://www.asaps.it/69932-_decreto-legge_rilancio__salta_la_proroga_al_31_luglio_per_il_pagamento_scontato.html
[17:22] <wxl> @tsimonq2: so github pull requests automatically get mirrored on phab? or do we need to do something else? i suspect we need to upload regardless, too, no?
[17:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: GitHub pull requests are pretty isolated.
[17:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: There's no sync with Phab.
[17:23] <wxl> @tsimonq2: eh. maybe we should turn them off?
[17:23] <tsimonq2> wxl: We'd need to merge manually and when it syncs to GitHub it should automatically close the PR.
[17:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: Nah, we've had a few drivebys that way. Useful for one-off contributors who don't wanna learn Phab.
[17:24] <wxl> @tsimonq2: so we need to essentially steal the diff, run it through phab like normal, upload it, and that will resolve everything?
[17:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yep.
[17:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: Or don't even worry about Phab.
[17:25] <wxl> i see
[17:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: Apply it as if it was a regular Git patch.
 @tsimonq2 CI ate all the CPU on the host and its memory
 i had to force-kill it
[17:32] <tsimonq2> ughhhhhhhhhhhh
 to return stability to the farm
[17:32] <tsimonq2> Not again
 well this time the CPU wasn't the factor
 memory was
[17:33] <tsimonq2> hm
 CPU fluctuated per the set limits I set
 this time it hard OOM'd
 once it OOM'd it pegged CPUs constantly in a renice/oomkiller cycle
[17:34] <tsimonq2> Thanks.
 @tsimonq2 i reduced the CPUs to 4 as well again to not bomb out the cluster
 if it continues exploding I may have to put in a request for additional hardware - a refurb'd workstation PC that would be repurposed to become part of the cluster.
 but that's donw the road
 for now i'm just going to adjust your limits
[20:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3cf2755d4c08: write jpeg out] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3cf2755d4c08
[20:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc11651dcd92b: write jpeg out] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc11651dcd92b
[20:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcb83360d29d9: write jpeg out] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcb83360d29d9
[21:05] <Eickmeyer> Ok, so calamares works except I screwed-up the loghelper file, and I made changes there. The only issue I'm having now is: how do I get the install icon to show on the desktop?
[21:14] <wxl> ugh this was annoying
[21:14] <wxl> let me see if i can remember
[21:14] <Eickmeyer> I'd do /etc/skel except that would result in the first user having a useless icon on the desktop.
[21:15] <wxl> it's in casper https://git.launchpad.net/~wxl/ubuntu/+source/casper/commit/?h=ubuntu/devel&id=ad2283696ad96ffa681a23fc8559c9c82ec31530
[21:16] <wxl> i did switch that to our specific one though https://git.launchpad.net/~wxl/ubuntu/+source/casper/commit/?h=ubuntu/devel&id=b6faf8f7440165f2c468ccfa289a2d679f30b9a7
[21:16] <Eickmeyer> Ohhh... fudge.
[21:16] <wxl> so you'll want to make another one to what i expect would be /usr/share/applications/ubuntustudio-calamares.desktop
[21:17] <wxl> fairly easy all things considered
[21:17] <Eickmeyer> Yup. And then ping someone to actually accept the MR.
[21:17] <wxl> i forgot who i had to harass to get it to happen
[21:17] <wxl> you'll see there's no MR associated with it
[21:17] <Eickmeyer> My guess is vorlon, his name was on that.
[21:18] <wxl> quite possibly but i feel like it was someone else
[21:18] <wxl> anyways good luck with that XD
[21:19] <Eickmeyer> Ha! Thanks. I can always add it to the default favorites, and it'll get ignored if it doesn't exist, which it shouldn't after install anyhwo.
[21:22] <wxl> btw Eickmeyer we made some progress (well @guiverc did) making Cala-specific testcases but we don't have them fully employed yet. we should probably put all of our heads together one that one
[21:23] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that's definitely something to talk about. In my case though, getting it to not have an error at the end is, well, let's say "priority". lol
[21:24] <wxl> heh
[21:24] <wxl> you'll get there fairly easily i think
[21:24] <wxl> cala has honestly been a real pleasure to work with
[21:24] <Eickmeyer> I'm literally a commit away.
[21:25] <Eickmeyer> Unfortunately, ERR:SonHomeSchool
[21:25] <wxl> the only problems i have ever had with it are these real goofy partitioning edgecases
[21:25] <wxl> and in those cases it's almost always an upstream issue
[21:25] <Eickmeyer> Well, considering how new Cala is compared to Ubiq, yes.
[21:25] <wxl> and i've had like totally fubar'd problems get reported on irc and like fixed in less than 24h
[21:26] <Eickmeyer> Which is amazing. Means there are people dedicated to making it work.
[21:26] <Eickmeyer> As opposed to: *submit pull request* *wait* *wait some more* *ping #u-r* * wait more* *ping #u-r* *rinse* *repeat*
[21:27] <wxl> yepppp
[21:27] <wxl> and not only that, the code makes sense
[21:27] <Eickmeyer> Even the config files are a breeze.
[21:27] <wxl> ubiquity is a nightmare 
[21:28] <wxl> i mean i'll be fair, it doesn't seem to me that canonical has a general requirement to make code incredibly approachable

[21:28] <Eickmeyer> I couldn't, in my head, figure out a way to de-Kubuntu-ify ubiquity-frontend-kde that wouldn't have taken weeks.
 Bingo
[21:28] <wxl> hey they can take your diffs and just s/Ubuntu Studio/Kubuntu/ and they'll be running cala too XD
[21:29] <Eickmeyer> Hahaha
[21:29] <wxl> i think having studio on it will be very compelling
[21:30] <wxl> especially given your default de is in fact kde
[21:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGSd671e9203909: Fix for logs-helper looking in wrong folder] Eickmeyer (Erich Eickmeyer) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGSd671e9203909
[21:30] <Eickmeyer> Well, I know RikMills is watching closely and learning from my mistakes, which are corrected ^ there
[21:30] <kc2bez> Oops, I missed one I see ^
[21:30] <Eickmeyer> kc2bez: Yep, just one.
[21:31] <kc2bez> Wow, not bad
[21:31] <Eickmeyer> I'm going to push that and rebuild the ISO.
[21:31] <kc2bez> cool
[21:32] <wxl> then after we're all using it, we can keep working on all the others :)
[21:32] <kc2bez> Eickmeyer: @tsimonq2 has done a swell job with our CI infrastructure so we have builds for Calamares there too.
[21:33] <Eickmeyer> Cool, but that doesn't help me with studio iso builds and tests.
[21:34] <kc2bez> no but if you find an issue that you think the newer versions of cala address you can use it for testing. Also we can apply patches that won't impact the archive.
[21:34] <Eickmeyer> True.
[21:35] <kc2bez> The unstable ci branch is from the tip of the git master.
[22:16] <Eickmeyer> Ok, I'll bite. Why does the cala settings package have a 1: epoch?
[22:16]  * Eickmeyer blames tsimonq2
[22:18] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/macro/view/4/
[22:19] <Eickmeyer> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[22:20] <Eickmeyer> That needs to be a ! command for ubottu.
[22:21] <wxl> it is a macro on phab so you can introduce it in a conversation anywhere you want :)
 It rolls right off the cut and paste. XD
[22:21] <Eickmeyer> Hahahaha
 @wxl [<wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/macro/view/4/], PMSL
[22:22] <Eickmeyer> Oof, phab account required.
[22:23] <wxl> @RikMills you darn brits. why can't you rofl like everyone else?
[22:23] <wxl> oh lemme get you one Eickmeyer 
[22:24] <wxl> errr
[22:24] <wxl> looks like you signed up for one and got approved?
[22:25] <wxl> yes, you did
[22:25] <wxl> hmmmmmmmm
 @wxl [<wxl> @RikMills you darn brits. why can't you rofl like everyone else?], We have a more finely developed sense of humour
[22:27] <wxl> yes, because "pissing" is more finely developed than "rolling"
[22:27] <wxl> oh man my eyes are hurting from rolling in the back of my head
 @wxl [<wxl> yes, because "pissing" is more finely developed than "rolling"], I didn't specify the direction of the refinement
[22:29] <wxl> hm
[22:30] <Eickmeyer> wxl: No, I thought @RikMills didn't have one, but I guess I'm wrong.
 Americans accuse brits of being up toght
[22:30] <wxl> yeah i guess when they report a natural disaster, they often refer to it as a "developing story"
[22:30] <wxl> soooo
[22:31] <wxl> if there's one thing we always say, it's that brits are so darn up toght
[22:31] <Eickmeyer> I didn't know what PMSL meant. Now I do. TIL PMSL = ROFL but dirtier because British.
 But you have your own set of social nonos
[22:33] <wxl> i just think brits have an obsession with pissing
[22:34] <wxl> they're either getting pissed or pissing
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> Or piss dunk.
[22:34] <wxl> of course, i'd be pissed too if i had to call my chips crisps and my fries chips
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> And your cookies biscuits and your biscuits muffins.
[22:35] <wxl> oh and let's not forget the boot
 Not our fault you made silly other names for things
 Anyway, this channel logged so perhaps stop now
 ^ What was this ? 😂😂
 PS. A few lxqt packages needed rebuilds for qt 5.14. Don't let me forget to sync that to vcs
[23:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIERf2b85758af30: Bump standards version and debhelper version] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIERf2b85758af30
[23:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIERf2460f2e3965: Upload to groovy.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIERf2460f2e3965