[01:29] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:18] <ducasse> good morning
[08:29] <Deano59> good morning. :)
[08:33] <akem> Heya.
[14:16] <leftyfb> hggdh: I didn't know you were into the Occupy movement :)     hggdh (~hggdh@141.98.opp.jzq) has joined #occupyboston
[14:54] <oerheks> sudo apt install new-keyboard
[14:54] <oerheks> ..or snap?
[15:44] <hggdh> leftyfb: I am not :-) Just another user with the same nick
[15:44] <hggdh> I am also guessing this is not on Freenode
[15:55] <leftyfb> hggdh: it's not even a real user, it's a bot. They seem to copy nicks from other networks I'm on.
[15:56] <leftyfb> been doing this for at least a year now
[17:01] <marcoagpinto> The demon!!!
[17:02]  * daftykins runs
[17:04]  * oerheks opens a bottle of pepsi
[17:06] <marcoagpinto> I have been away very busy with the projects
[17:06] <marcoagpinto> I have been able to implement the CIRCUMFIX Hunspell flag into my tool
[17:06] <marcoagpinto> :)
[17:06] <marcoagpinto> after years working on it
[19:26] <marcoagpinto> is anyone there?!
[19:27] <marcoagpinto> >:) <-
[19:28] <oerheks> hi anyone
[19:29] <sarnold> hi nobody
[19:31] <coconut> hi few
[19:34] <marcoagpinto> oerheks!
[19:34] <marcoagpinto> sarnold!
[19:34] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[19:34] <sarnold> hey marcoagpinto :)
[19:35] <marcoagpinto> damn VirtualBox 6.1.7 damaged the Extras CD
[19:35] <marcoagpinto> I can't remember the name
[19:35] <marcoagpinto> now 18.04 gets a login screen with 640x480 or so
[19:35] <marcoagpinto> very small
[19:35] <marcoagpinto> and 20.04 desktop gives an error regarding maximising the screen
[19:35] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:35] <marcoagpinto> guest additions*
[19:37] <GR1M0R4CL3> yup i had the same problem
[19:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> i had to stay on a previous virtualbox version
[19:38] <marcoagpinto> :(((((((
[19:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> you can downgrade the guest part
[19:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> you can download the iso, mount it and build a previous guest additions and see what happens
[19:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> keeping your current virtualbox version
[19:39] <marcoagpinto> :(
[19:39] <GR1M0R4CL3> if that doesnt work, downgrade one notch the virtualbox
[19:39] <daftykins> i'd have thought the lesson would have been learnt by now
[19:39] <GR1M0R4CL3> they had to fix a problem and edit that part
[19:40] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: what lesson?
[19:40] <GR1M0R4CL3> and their forum has a post about it as the problem affected fedora too
[19:40] <daftykins> updating
[19:40] <GR1M0R4CL3> and they work fat better with Xorg than Wayland
[19:40] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: that is why I don't install betas on my new laptop
[19:40] <marcoagpinto> I became conservative
[19:40] <marcoagpinto> but VirtualBox 6.1.7 was a final release
[19:41] <GR1M0R4CL3> me too. work requires us to use a windows 10 with a pulse client
[19:41] <marcoagpinto> so, I downloaded and installed it
[19:41] <GR1M0R4CL3> and we run a virtualbox on top of it with all the development environment
[19:41] <GR1M0R4CL3> i am very very cautious about any upgrades..
[19:41] <GR1M0R4CL3> breaking the display when you have a fix to code and a release to do, no fun
[19:41] <marcoagpinto> yes
[19:42] <marcoagpinto> :((((((
[19:42] <marcoagpinto> When LibreOffice 7.0 is released in August, I will wait an extra month for 7.0.1
[19:42] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:42] <marcoagpinto> conservative I am getting
[19:42] <marcoagpinto> :p
[19:43] <GR1M0R4CL3> i got a 1 tb hard disk. i copy the 100 gb vdi to it before any upgrade then i upgrade
[19:43] <GR1M0R4CL3> and i always have a previous vdi in case something breaks and i need to work :D
[19:43] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:43] <marcoagpinto> I am taking a Unity course
[19:43] <marcoagpinto> :p
[19:43] <marcoagpinto> I updated Unity today and it took 20 GB of my HDD
[19:43] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:43] <daftykins> marcoagpinto: and what was wrong with what you had before?
[19:43] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: wrong with what?
[19:44] <daftykins> the prior virtualbox version
[19:44] <daftykins> 20GB for the desktop, i don't think so
[19:44] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: the 20.04 desktop window didn't get full screen
[19:44] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: Unity for all platforms
[19:44] <marcoagpinto> I installed it all
[19:44] <marcoagpinto> except the chinese languages and such
[19:44] <GR1M0R4CL3> i got a 20.04 with full screen workin
[19:44] <GR1M0R4CL3> i can check which vb and which guest im using
[19:45] <GR1M0R4CL3> need the info ?
[19:45] <marcoagpinto> GR1M0R4CL3: It would only use the full screen after we streeched and then maximised the VB window
[19:45] <marcoagpinto> so, I thought 6.1.7 would fix it
[19:45] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:45] <marcoagpinto> but I was wrong
[19:45] <GR1M0R4CL3> yup
[19:45] <GR1M0R4CL3> i got that currently
[19:45] <daftykins> hang on are you talking about Unity the game engine etc?
[19:46] <GR1M0R4CL3> im still waiting for a fix. on each boot i have to reduce/maximize
[19:46] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: yes
[19:47] <marcoagpinto> damn course is 30+ hours... I am watching 30 minutes videos per day
[19:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> the vb team has a forum
[19:47] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> go there and check the "linux clients" part
[19:47] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:47] <daftykins> you're quite clearly making a common mistake that others do online, version chasing i call it - it makes no sense to keep chasing the latest releases solely for the sake of being 'on top' of release events
[19:48] <GR1M0R4CL3> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=98d5e9ca3e7127b6b82990ab2a248403
[19:48] <GR1M0R4CL3> there has been a discussion there: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=97686
[19:48] <marcoagpinto> "Ubutnu 16.04 guest login screen is 800x600 with GA (6.1.8 r137981)"
[19:48] <marcoagpinto> 6.1.8?
[19:48] <GR1M0R4CL3> i was using a fedora when this happened. moved to a ubuntu since
[19:48] <marcoagpinto> I have 6.1.7?
[19:49] <marcoagpinto> where did .8 come from?
[19:49] <GR1M0R4CL3> you can download previews of more recent vb and guests
[19:49] <marcoagpinto> ahhhhhh
[19:49] <GR1M0R4CL3> in the forums you have posts where they give links to the daily guest compiled
[19:49] <GR1M0R4CL3> sometimes it works with those
[19:49] <marcoagpinto> ahhhhhhh
[19:49] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:49] <marcoagpinto> good to know
[19:50] <daftykins> but even better is not being in a rush to update
[19:50] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: I am always in a rush
[19:50] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:50] <daftykins> you need to learn to behave differently
[19:50] <marcoagpinto> when I near 50?
[19:50] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:50] <marcoagpinto> now it is too late
[19:50] <marcoagpinto> I am*
[19:50] <GR1M0R4CL3> test builds : https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Testbuilds#Latest6.1.xtestbuilds
[19:51] <GR1M0R4CL3> you either go back to what worked by downgrading. or you try the most recent stuff but you have to spend some time playing with it
[19:52] <sarnold> daftykins: hey now, someone needs to file the bug reports when updates break things :)
[19:52] <sarnold> daftykins: otherwise how will the breakages be found before folks like us get around to upgrading? :)
[19:52] <daftykins> lol, that's a fair point - but i imagine you'd prefer more useful responses rather than ":(" everywhere? ;)
[19:53] <sarnold> why yes, pastebins of what was tried and what error messages came back would be a good start :)
[19:53] <daftykins> that's just not the demon's way!
[19:53] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[19:54] <marcoagpinto> why can't Ubuntu bring all packages required by VirtualBox guestadditions and VMWare whatever?
[19:54] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:54] <marcoagpinto> wouldn't it be easier?
[19:54] <marcoagpinto> we have to install Perl by hand and such
[19:54] <marcoagpinto> it could come with Ubuntu out of the box, right?
[19:54] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[19:55] <marcoagpinto> "Insert GuestAddition CD" -> "done!"
[19:55] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:56] <oerheks> hahaha... wait, you still have a cd drive?
[19:56] <marcoagpinto> oerheks: virtual
[19:56] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:56] <marcoagpinto> VirtualBox has a guest additions CD .iso to make it fully compatible with OSes
[19:57] <marcoagpinto> for example, sharing clipboard and shared folders between guest and host
[19:57] <oerheks> yes, i got that part
[19:57] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:57] <marcoagpinto> but, yes, I also have an external drive
[19:57] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:58] <marcoagpinto> I was converting my audio CDs to FLAC but then got bored
[19:58] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:58] <akem> Can be usefull for ripping DVDs too ;)
[19:58] <marcoagpinto> and my DVD-Videos to .iso
[19:58] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:58] <akem> Try .mp4 or .avi instead of .iso!
[19:58] <akem> :P
[19:59] <marcoagpinto> akem: it doesn't matter... 8 GB isn't much now-a-days
[19:59] <marcoagpinto> :)
[19:59] <marcoagpinto> so, I would rather have it 100% like the original
[19:59] <akem> Yeah, if you want it like the original...i understand.
[19:59] <marcoagpinto> I can't copy blu-rays... 50 GB :(
[20:00] <marcoagpinto> or 100 GB :(
[20:00] <akem> I prefer to have video format instead, so i stick them in my playlist.
[20:00] <marcoagpinto> it would fill my HDD quick
[20:00] <oerheks> oh, do you need hdd's?
[20:00] <marcoagpinto> it is SSD
[20:00] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[20:00] <marcoagpinto> but I called it HDD
[20:00] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:01] <akem> SSD are still expensive. Good old mechanical HDD, i got 4 TB for 90 Euros.
[20:01] <marcoagpinto> akem: it came with the laptop
[20:01] <marcoagpinto> 1 TB
[20:01] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:02] <marcoagpinto> but I have also external ones
[20:02] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:02] <marcoagpinto> 4 TB
[20:02] <marcoagpinto> it would be filled if I created .iso's of 100 GB each
[20:02] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:04] <akem> Waste of space.
[20:04] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[20:04] <akem> I never download larger than 1080p RIPs. I don't have anything 4K anyway.
[20:05] <marcoagpinto> I have some adult clips in 4K
[20:05] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:06] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaaaa.... on Tuesday I almost retired... I hit 4 numbers + 1 star in the EuroMillions... 100 EUR... one more number would give me 400 000 EUR
[20:06] <marcoagpinto> :(
[20:06] <marcoagpinto> I was close this time
[20:06] <akem> Too bad :X
[20:07] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[20:07] <marcoagpinto> I know
[20:07] <marcoagpinto> 400 000 EUR should be more than 100 years of work at the supermarket
[20:07] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:08] <marcoagpinto> so close, young apprendice
[20:08] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:08] <daftykins> SSDs really are not that expensive :P
[20:08] <daftykins> you don't create ISOs of blurays, silly
[20:08] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: why not?
[20:08] <daftykins> you dump the titles to matroskas
[20:08] <daftykins> 'cause it's the wrong tool for the job
[20:08] <sarnold> also, no way 400K EUR is enough to retire on ..
[20:08] <marcoagpinto> sarnold: for me is
[20:08] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:09] <marcoagpinto> because I work in part-time
[20:09] <akem> Depends how and where you live :P
[20:09] <marcoagpinto> ahhhh
[20:09] <marcoagpinto> right
[20:09] <daftykins> you do? i had a feeling you just murdered cola and worked on that PhD perpetually :)
[20:09] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: I am on medical leave
[20:09] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:10] <marcoagpinto> and I have spent a week searching for "Human and Social Dynamics" and when I was about to give up, I found the material
[20:10] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:10] <marcoagpinto> there was tons of material, but all useless
[20:10] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:11] <marcoagpinto> yes, two chapters left in the thesis
[20:11] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:11] <marcoagpinto> tomorrow I will research about Bernoulli... I need more information about him
[20:13] <marcoagpinto> I only have two or three pages about each scientist :(
[20:15] <sarnold> marcoagpinto: 400K EUR provides roughly ~16K EUR per year in retirement income, given historical trends
[20:15] <marcoagpinto> sarnold: so, my income is 5K year
[20:15] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:16] <sarnold> oof :)
[20:17] <marcoagpinto> well, I live with mum and dad
[20:17] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:17] <marcoagpinto> otherwise, I would need to have a normal jo
[20:17] <marcoagpinto> otherwise, I would need to have a normal job
[20:18] <oerheks> haha i make €15k year
[20:18] <sarnold> I don't want to be too dark but you should probably not plan on your parents surviving through your entire retirement..
[20:18] <marcoagpinto> I know :(
[20:23] <marcoagpinto> ahhhh... regarding the video .iso's: years ago I bought a film at the supermarket, and when I was analysing it, it had no Portuguese subtitles
[20:23] <marcoagpinto> it was very strange
[20:23] <marcoagpinto> how come no one complained'
[20:23] <marcoagpinto> ?
[20:24] <akem> Maybe because it was a bad movie anyway :P
[20:24] <marcoagpinto> sometimes we had promotions of DVD-Videos at 1 or 2 EUR
[20:24] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:25] <marcoagpinto> at the supermarket
[20:25] <sarnold> you bought it even without the subtitled, right? :)
[20:25] <marcoagpinto> good for .iso
[20:25] <akem> Maybe they got few DVDs that are not supposed to be sold in PT supermarkets, hence no subs.
[20:25] <marcoagpinto> akem: it had the Portuguese seal
[20:25] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:25] <marcoagpinto> so, it is sold here
[20:25] <akem> Ok.
[20:25] <marcoagpinto> I can't remember the name of the film
[20:26] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: maybe I should MKV some blu-rays
[20:26] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:26] <daftykins> makemkv is freely available and can handle this easily
[20:27] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[20:27] <akem> Or Handbrake i guess.
[20:27] <akem> I don't know makemkv.
[20:27] <marcoagpinto> I would prefer Handbrake
[20:27] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:27] <daftykins> you would have to look at the tools and learn that they mostly do different things, to start with
[20:27] <marcoagpinto> but blu-rays are sensible to fingerprints
[20:28] <daftykins> handbrake is mostly geared towards transcoding, which is a waste of time and cycles - makemkv can let you just dump the contents of a DVD or bluray 1:1
[20:28] <marcoagpinto> I tried to copy one weeks ago and all files were giving errors
[20:28] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:28] <daftykins> probably because the files are encrypted, you don't just copy them off the disc
[20:28] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: it was a data blu-ray
[20:28] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:29] <daftykins> so are film and TV series ones :P
[20:29] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:29] <marcoagpinto> AnyDVD rings a bell?
[20:29] <daftykins> antiquated solution yes
[20:31] <marcoagpinto> anyway, damn DVDs only transfer at maximum 20 MB/sec
[20:31] <marcoagpinto> :(
[20:31] <marcoagpinto> it takes ages to convert to .iso
[20:32] <marcoagpinto> that is why I want them all in .iso... to avoid getting damaged and for faster access
[20:33] <daftykins> there's no point converting the entire disc contents to an image, just take the film - it's quicker
[20:34] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: what about the scenes and such?
[20:34] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:34] <marcoagpinto> 8 GB isn't much now-a-days
[20:34] <daftykins> i recently dumped my Star Trek TNG bluray set all to disk, 1.5TB now
[20:34] <sarnold> daftykins: makemkv?
[20:34] <daftykins> scenes, you mean chapter selections?
[20:34] <daftykins> sarnold: yip
[20:34] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: yes
[20:34] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:35] <sarnold> daftykins: niiiiice. I've got a big pile of columbo discs that I really want to do something with. discs just seems so fragile.
[20:35] <daftykins> marcoagpinto: it's all built into blurays, that's how it comes off the disc using makemkv
[20:35] <marcoagpinto> I also converted my SPECIAL EDITION of Star Trek return to Earth and disc 2 had errors
[20:35] <daftykins> using what method showed errors o0
[20:35] <sarnold> daftykins: how do you 'consume' the end results? any chance you know if you can convince a chromecast to view them? :)
[20:36] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: AnyDVD said it had bogus cells
[20:36] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:36] <daftykins> right, software limitation
[20:36] <marcoagpinto> but I could swear that I copied it 10 or 15 years ago and no errors
[20:36] <daftykins> sarnold: Kodi on spare devices usually, i never owned a chromecast - can they do anything with UPnP servers o0
[20:36] <sarnold> daftykins: probably not..
[20:37] <daftykins> always felt they were too limited those things
[20:37] <daftykins> marcoagpinto: likely some protection is just too good for that ghetto software, makemkv'd do it i'm sure
[20:38] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: but I already paid ~100 EUR for AnyDVD
[20:38] <marcoagpinto> :(
[20:38] <daftykins> l o l
[20:39] <daftykins> and so running a free program will break the bank further? xD
[20:39] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: I could swear that years ago makemkv was commercial?
[20:39] <marcoagpinto> I can't remember
[20:40] <daftykins> why remember when you can visit the site and discover that you can pay if you want or not
[20:40] <marcoagpinto> ahhhhhhhhhh
[20:40] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:40] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[20:47] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: https://www.makemkv.com/buy/
[20:47] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:47] <marcoagpinto> €61.50
[20:48] <daftykins> when i just a moment ago mentioned you could visit the site and learn you can pay or use it free, why do i need to be linked and told?
[20:48] <marcoagpinto> because it says only the beta is free
[20:48] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:49] <marcoagpinto> after 30 days it costs 50 EUR + VAT
[20:51] <daftykins> it has been many, many years
[20:52] <daftykins> so for all intents and purposes it's essentially free
[20:52] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:55] <marcoagpinto> I also want to convert a conference I recorded many years ago to blu-ray
[20:55] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:56] <marcoagpinto> but I am scared to connect the camcorder to the computer
[20:56] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:56] <marcoagpinto> it is an old camcorder
[20:56] <marcoagpinto> I can't remember how I did it when I created DVD-Videos of it
[20:57] <marcoagpinto> I need to read the manaul
[20:57] <marcoagpinto> manual*
[20:57] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:57] <marcoagpinto> RTFM
[20:57] <marcoagpinto> 1280x720p instead of 572p (more bitrate)
[20:57] <marcoagpinto> :)
[20:58] <marcoagpinto> 576p*
[20:59] <daftykins> resolution doesn't automatically translate to bitrate shifts due to codec changes
[21:08] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: because it was minitapes? digital?
[21:08] <marcoagpinto> so, a higher bitrate would get more quality than DVD quality?
[21:10] <daftykins> you're not really making a lot of sense there
[21:10] <marcoagpinto> If I well remember I had Pinnacle Studio 8 or 7 back in 2001 or 2002?
[21:10] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:10] <marcoagpinto> and it sucked in the video settings?
[21:10] <marcoagpinto> even the text I added got all pixelised
[21:12] <marcoagpinto> so, I just need to transfer the video from the minitapes and create a blu-ray with it with the maximum bitrate
[21:12] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:12] <marcoagpinto> if the minitapes still work :p
[21:12] <oerheks> set auto
[21:13] <marcoagpinto> oerheks: auto?
[21:13] <oerheks> keep the resolution from the original file
[21:13] <marcoagpinto> oerheks: can I store DVD-Video resolution into a blu-ray format?
[21:13] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:13] <marcoagpinto> record a blu-ray with a DVD-video?
[21:13] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:14] <oerheks> no, that would be impossible
[21:14] <marcoagpinto> 720x576
[21:14] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:14] <oerheks> oh wait
[21:14] <marcoagpinto> 4:3
[21:14] <oerheks> sure, any format will do
[21:14] <marcoagpinto> ohhhhhh....
[21:15] <oerheks> one can make a BR-data disk
[21:15] <marcoagpinto> do you mean, I just select 720x576 and target: "blu-ray"?
[21:15] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:15] <oerheks> woppa
[21:15] <oerheks> mouse, drag & drop
[21:15] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaa
[21:15] <marcoagpinto> then it won't play in the stand-alone players
[21:15]  * daftykins shakes his head
[21:15] <marcoagpinto> :(
[21:16] <daftykins> i would not target optical formats at all
[21:16] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: but I wanted to add menus
[21:16] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:17] <daftykins> stuff nobody wants? ah ok
[21:17] <marcoagpinto> the conference was 4-hours long
[21:17] <marcoagpinto> I wanted to organise it by speecher
[21:18] <marcoagpinto> a photo of each speecher in the scenes
[21:21] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[21:21] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: you made me meditate
[21:21] <marcoagpinto> maybe I could have one file per speecher
[21:21] <marcoagpinto> conference.1.name1
[21:21] <marcoagpinto> conference.2.name2
[21:22] <daftykins> just calm down, it's obvious you haven't looked at the basics of DVD or bluray authoring
[21:23] <marcoagpinto> don't I just need to create the menus and select the target format?
[21:23] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:24] <marcoagpinto> I have processed several YouTube videos using Nero
[21:24] <marcoagpinto> resolution -> bitrate -> audio -> target?
[21:25] <daftykins> a sane person would take the original source material and split that into titles to start with, then those'd be linked from a menu
[21:25] <daftykins> but it all sounds like a waste of effort to be honest
[21:25] <marcoagpinto> I have several minitapes
[21:25] <marcoagpinto> I first need to transfer them to the disk
[21:26] <marcoagpinto> I no longer know how the camcorder works
[21:26] <marcoagpinto> :(
[21:26] <marcoagpinto> I need to RTFM
[21:28] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbW8oK1vezM&
[21:28] <marcoagpinto> it is all pixelised
[21:28] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:28] <marcoagpinto> Pinnacle Studio back in 2001 or 2002 sucked
[21:28] <marcoagpinto> I converted from DVD-Video and exported to YouTube
[21:29] <daftykins> yes you probably used trash tools that transcoded and degraded the source
[21:30] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: what could one expect 20 years ago?
[21:30] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:30] <daftykins> no you're just blaming the tools now
[21:30] <marcoagpinto> I just hope the tapes are still okay
[21:31] <marcoagpinto> bitrate -> target
[21:31] <marcoagpinto> :)
[21:31] <marcoagpinto> Pinnacle Studio 20 years ago
[21:55] <daftykins> why would you use the same thing o0
[22:00] <marcoagpinto> :)
[22:00] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: I am leaving to bed... I will return in the morning
[22:00] <marcoagpinto> take care dear ones
[22:00] <marcoagpinto> the cola demon