=== tds4 is now known as tds [01:29] good morning [06:18] good morning [08:29] good morning. :) [08:33] Heya. [14:16] hggdh: I didn't know you were into the Occupy movement :) hggdh (~hggdh@141.98.opp.jzq) has joined #occupyboston [14:54] sudo apt install new-keyboard [14:54] ..or snap? [15:44] leftyfb: I am not :-) Just another user with the same nick [15:44] I am also guessing this is not on Freenode [15:55] hggdh: it's not even a real user, it's a bot. They seem to copy nicks from other networks I'm on. [15:56] been doing this for at least a year now [17:01] The demon!!! [17:02] * daftykins runs [17:04] * oerheks opens a bottle of pepsi [17:06] I have been away very busy with the projects [17:06] I have been able to implement the CIRCUMFIX Hunspell flag into my tool [17:06] :) [17:06] after years working on it [19:26] is anyone there?! [19:27] >:) <- [19:28] hi anyone [19:29] hi nobody [19:31] hi few [19:34] oerheks! [19:34] sarnold! [19:34] >:) [19:34] hey marcoagpinto :) [19:35] damn VirtualBox 6.1.7 damaged the Extras CD [19:35] I can't remember the name [19:35] now 18.04 gets a login screen with 640x480 or so [19:35] very small [19:35] and 20.04 desktop gives an error regarding maximising the screen [19:35] :) [19:35] guest additions* [19:37] yup i had the same problem [19:38] i had to stay on a previous virtualbox version [19:38] :((((((( [19:38] you can downgrade the guest part [19:38] you can download the iso, mount it and build a previous guest additions and see what happens [19:38] keeping your current virtualbox version [19:39] :( [19:39] if that doesnt work, downgrade one notch the virtualbox [19:39] i'd have thought the lesson would have been learnt by now [19:39] they had to fix a problem and edit that part [19:40] daftykins: what lesson? [19:40] and their forum has a post about it as the problem affected fedora too [19:40] updating [19:40] and they work fat better with Xorg than Wayland [19:40] daftykins: that is why I don't install betas on my new laptop [19:40] I became conservative [19:40] but VirtualBox 6.1.7 was a final release [19:41] me too. work requires us to use a windows 10 with a pulse client [19:41] so, I downloaded and installed it [19:41] and we run a virtualbox on top of it with all the development environment [19:41] i am very very cautious about any upgrades.. [19:41] breaking the display when you have a fix to code and a release to do, no fun [19:41] yes [19:42] :(((((( [19:42] When LibreOffice 7.0 is released in August, I will wait an extra month for 7.0.1 [19:42] :) [19:42] conservative I am getting [19:42] :p [19:43] i got a 1 tb hard disk. i copy the 100 gb vdi to it before any upgrade then i upgrade [19:43] and i always have a previous vdi in case something breaks and i need to work :D [19:43] :) [19:43] I am taking a Unity course [19:43] :p [19:43] I updated Unity today and it took 20 GB of my HDD [19:43] :) [19:43] marcoagpinto: and what was wrong with what you had before? [19:43] daftykins: wrong with what? [19:44] the prior virtualbox version [19:44] 20GB for the desktop, i don't think so [19:44] daftykins: the 20.04 desktop window didn't get full screen [19:44] daftykins: Unity for all platforms [19:44] I installed it all [19:44] except the chinese languages and such [19:44] i got a 20.04 with full screen workin [19:44] i can check which vb and which guest im using [19:45] need the info ? [19:45] GR1M0R4CL3: It would only use the full screen after we streeched and then maximised the VB window [19:45] so, I thought 6.1.7 would fix it [19:45] :) [19:45] but I was wrong [19:45] yup [19:45] i got that currently [19:45] hang on are you talking about Unity the game engine etc? [19:46] im still waiting for a fix. on each boot i have to reduce/maximize [19:46] daftykins: yes [19:47] damn course is 30+ hours... I am watching 30 minutes videos per day [19:47] the vb team has a forum [19:47] :) [19:47] go there and check the "linux clients" part [19:47] :) [19:47] you're quite clearly making a common mistake that others do online, version chasing i call it - it makes no sense to keep chasing the latest releases solely for the sake of being 'on top' of release events [19:48] https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewforum.php?f=3&sid=98d5e9ca3e7127b6b82990ab2a248403 [19:48] there has been a discussion there: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=97686 [19:48] "Ubutnu 16.04 guest login screen is 800x600 with GA (6.1.8 r137981)" [19:48] 6.1.8? [19:48] i was using a fedora when this happened. moved to a ubuntu since [19:48] I have 6.1.7? [19:49] where did .8 come from? [19:49] you can download previews of more recent vb and guests [19:49] ahhhhhh [19:49] in the forums you have posts where they give links to the daily guest compiled [19:49] sometimes it works with those [19:49] ahhhhhhh [19:49] :) [19:49] good to know [19:50] but even better is not being in a rush to update [19:50] daftykins: I am always in a rush [19:50] :) [19:50] you need to learn to behave differently [19:50] when I near 50? [19:50] :) [19:50] now it is too late [19:50] I am* [19:50] test builds : https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Testbuilds#Latest6.1.xtestbuilds [19:51] you either go back to what worked by downgrading. or you try the most recent stuff but you have to spend some time playing with it [19:52] daftykins: hey now, someone needs to file the bug reports when updates break things :) [19:52] daftykins: otherwise how will the breakages be found before folks like us get around to upgrading? :) [19:52] lol, that's a fair point - but i imagine you'd prefer more useful responses rather than ":(" everywhere? ;) [19:53] why yes, pastebins of what was tried and what error messages came back would be a good start :) [19:53] that's just not the demon's way! [19:53] >:) [19:54] why can't Ubuntu bring all packages required by VirtualBox guestadditions and VMWare whatever? [19:54] :) [19:54] wouldn't it be easier? [19:54] we have to install Perl by hand and such [19:54] it could come with Ubuntu out of the box, right? [19:54] >:) [19:55] "Insert GuestAddition CD" -> "done!" [19:55] :) [19:56] hahaha... wait, you still have a cd drive? [19:56] oerheks: virtual [19:56] :) [19:56] VirtualBox has a guest additions CD .iso to make it fully compatible with OSes [19:57] for example, sharing clipboard and shared folders between guest and host [19:57] yes, i got that part [19:57] :) [19:57] but, yes, I also have an external drive [19:57] :) [19:58] I was converting my audio CDs to FLAC but then got bored [19:58] :) [19:58] Can be usefull for ripping DVDs too ;) [19:58] and my DVD-Videos to .iso [19:58] :) [19:58] Try .mp4 or .avi instead of .iso! [19:58] :P [19:59] akem: it doesn't matter... 8 GB isn't much now-a-days [19:59] :) [19:59] so, I would rather have it 100% like the original [19:59] Yeah, if you want it like the original...i understand. [19:59] I can't copy blu-rays... 50 GB :( [20:00] or 100 GB :( [20:00] I prefer to have video format instead, so i stick them in my playlist. [20:00] it would fill my HDD quick [20:00] oh, do you need hdd's? [20:00] it is SSD [20:00] >:) [20:00] but I called it HDD [20:00] :) [20:01] SSD are still expensive. Good old mechanical HDD, i got 4 TB for 90 Euros. [20:01] akem: it came with the laptop [20:01] 1 TB [20:01] :) [20:02] but I have also external ones [20:02] :) [20:02] 4 TB [20:02] it would be filled if I created .iso's of 100 GB each [20:02] :) [20:04] Waste of space. [20:04] >:) [20:04] I never download larger than 1080p RIPs. I don't have anything 4K anyway. [20:05] I have some adult clips in 4K [20:05] :) [20:06] Buaaaaaaaaa.... on Tuesday I almost retired... I hit 4 numbers + 1 star in the EuroMillions... 100 EUR... one more number would give me 400 000 EUR [20:06] :( [20:06] I was close this time [20:06] Too bad :X [20:07] >:) [20:07] I know [20:07] 400 000 EUR should be more than 100 years of work at the supermarket [20:07] :) [20:08] so close, young apprendice [20:08] :) [20:08] SSDs really are not that expensive :P [20:08] you don't create ISOs of blurays, silly [20:08] daftykins: why not? [20:08] you dump the titles to matroskas [20:08] 'cause it's the wrong tool for the job [20:08] also, no way 400K EUR is enough to retire on .. [20:08] sarnold: for me is [20:08] :) [20:09] because I work in part-time [20:09] Depends how and where you live :P [20:09] ahhhh [20:09] right [20:09] you do? i had a feeling you just murdered cola and worked on that PhD perpetually :) [20:09] daftykins: I am on medical leave [20:09] :) [20:10] and I have spent a week searching for "Human and Social Dynamics" and when I was about to give up, I found the material [20:10] :) [20:10] there was tons of material, but all useless [20:10] :) [20:11] yes, two chapters left in the thesis [20:11] :) [20:11] tomorrow I will research about Bernoulli... I need more information about him [20:13] I only have two or three pages about each scientist :( [20:15] marcoagpinto: 400K EUR provides roughly ~16K EUR per year in retirement income, given historical trends [20:15] sarnold: so, my income is 5K year [20:15] :) [20:16] oof :) [20:17] well, I live with mum and dad [20:17] :) [20:17] otherwise, I would need to have a normal jo [20:17] otherwise, I would need to have a normal job [20:18] haha i make €15k year [20:18] I don't want to be too dark but you should probably not plan on your parents surviving through your entire retirement.. [20:18] I know :( [20:23] ahhhh... regarding the video .iso's: years ago I bought a film at the supermarket, and when I was analysing it, it had no Portuguese subtitles [20:23] it was very strange [20:23] how come no one complained' [20:23] ? [20:24] Maybe because it was a bad movie anyway :P [20:24] sometimes we had promotions of DVD-Videos at 1 or 2 EUR [20:24] :) [20:25] at the supermarket [20:25] you bought it even without the subtitled, right? :) [20:25] good for .iso [20:25] Maybe they got few DVDs that are not supposed to be sold in PT supermarkets, hence no subs. [20:25] akem: it had the Portuguese seal [20:25] :) [20:25] so, it is sold here [20:25] Ok. [20:25] I can't remember the name of the film [20:26] daftykins: maybe I should MKV some blu-rays [20:26] :) [20:26] makemkv is freely available and can handle this easily [20:27] >:) [20:27] Or Handbrake i guess. [20:27] I don't know makemkv. [20:27] I would prefer Handbrake [20:27] :) [20:27] you would have to look at the tools and learn that they mostly do different things, to start with [20:27] but blu-rays are sensible to fingerprints [20:28] handbrake is mostly geared towards transcoding, which is a waste of time and cycles - makemkv can let you just dump the contents of a DVD or bluray 1:1 [20:28] I tried to copy one weeks ago and all files were giving errors [20:28] :) [20:28] probably because the files are encrypted, you don't just copy them off the disc [20:28] daftykins: it was a data blu-ray [20:28] :) [20:29] so are film and TV series ones :P [20:29] :) [20:29] AnyDVD rings a bell? [20:29] antiquated solution yes [20:31] anyway, damn DVDs only transfer at maximum 20 MB/sec [20:31] :( [20:31] it takes ages to convert to .iso [20:32] that is why I want them all in .iso... to avoid getting damaged and for faster access [20:33] there's no point converting the entire disc contents to an image, just take the film - it's quicker [20:34] daftykins: what about the scenes and such? [20:34] :) [20:34] 8 GB isn't much now-a-days [20:34] i recently dumped my Star Trek TNG bluray set all to disk, 1.5TB now [20:34] daftykins: makemkv? [20:34] scenes, you mean chapter selections? [20:34] sarnold: yip [20:34] daftykins: yes [20:34] :) [20:35] daftykins: niiiiice. I've got a big pile of columbo discs that I really want to do something with. discs just seems so fragile. [20:35] marcoagpinto: it's all built into blurays, that's how it comes off the disc using makemkv [20:35] I also converted my SPECIAL EDITION of Star Trek return to Earth and disc 2 had errors [20:35] using what method showed errors o0 [20:35] daftykins: how do you 'consume' the end results? any chance you know if you can convince a chromecast to view them? :) [20:36] daftykins: AnyDVD said it had bogus cells [20:36] :) [20:36] right, software limitation [20:36] but I could swear that I copied it 10 or 15 years ago and no errors [20:36] sarnold: Kodi on spare devices usually, i never owned a chromecast - can they do anything with UPnP servers o0 [20:36] daftykins: probably not.. [20:37] always felt they were too limited those things [20:37] marcoagpinto: likely some protection is just too good for that ghetto software, makemkv'd do it i'm sure [20:38] daftykins: but I already paid ~100 EUR for AnyDVD [20:38] :( [20:38] l o l [20:39] and so running a free program will break the bank further? xD [20:39] daftykins: I could swear that years ago makemkv was commercial? [20:39] I can't remember [20:40] why remember when you can visit the site and discover that you can pay if you want or not [20:40] ahhhhhhhhhh [20:40] :) [20:40] >:) [20:47] daftykins: https://www.makemkv.com/buy/ [20:47] :) [20:47] €61.50 [20:48] when i just a moment ago mentioned you could visit the site and learn you can pay or use it free, why do i need to be linked and told? [20:48] because it says only the beta is free [20:48] :) [20:49] after 30 days it costs 50 EUR + VAT [20:51] it has been many, many years [20:52] so for all intents and purposes it's essentially free [20:52] :) [20:55] I also want to convert a conference I recorded many years ago to blu-ray [20:55] :) [20:56] but I am scared to connect the camcorder to the computer [20:56] :) [20:56] it is an old camcorder [20:56] I can't remember how I did it when I created DVD-Videos of it [20:57] I need to read the manaul [20:57] manual* [20:57] :) [20:57] RTFM [20:57] 1280x720p instead of 572p (more bitrate) [20:57] :) [20:58] 576p* [20:59] resolution doesn't automatically translate to bitrate shifts due to codec changes [21:08] daftykins: because it was minitapes? digital? [21:08] so, a higher bitrate would get more quality than DVD quality? [21:10] you're not really making a lot of sense there [21:10] If I well remember I had Pinnacle Studio 8 or 7 back in 2001 or 2002? [21:10] :) [21:10] and it sucked in the video settings? [21:10] even the text I added got all pixelised [21:12] so, I just need to transfer the video from the minitapes and create a blu-ray with it with the maximum bitrate [21:12] :) [21:12] if the minitapes still work :p [21:12] set auto [21:13] oerheks: auto? [21:13] keep the resolution from the original file [21:13] oerheks: can I store DVD-Video resolution into a blu-ray format? [21:13] :) [21:13] record a blu-ray with a DVD-video? [21:13] :) [21:14] no, that would be impossible [21:14] 720x576 [21:14] :) [21:14] oh wait [21:14] 4:3 [21:14] sure, any format will do [21:14] ohhhhhh.... [21:15] one can make a BR-data disk [21:15] do you mean, I just select 720x576 and target: "blu-ray"? [21:15] :) [21:15] woppa [21:15] mouse, drag & drop [21:15] Buaaaaaaa [21:15] then it won't play in the stand-alone players [21:15] * daftykins shakes his head [21:15] :( [21:16] i would not target optical formats at all [21:16] daftykins: but I wanted to add menus [21:16] :) [21:17] stuff nobody wants? ah ok [21:17] the conference was 4-hours long [21:17] I wanted to organise it by speecher [21:18] a photo of each speecher in the scenes [21:21] Buaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [21:21] daftykins: you made me meditate [21:21] maybe I could have one file per speecher [21:21] conference.1.name1 [21:21] conference.2.name2 [21:22] just calm down, it's obvious you haven't looked at the basics of DVD or bluray authoring [21:23] don't I just need to create the menus and select the target format? [21:23] :) [21:24] I have processed several YouTube videos using Nero [21:24] resolution -> bitrate -> audio -> target? [21:25] a sane person would take the original source material and split that into titles to start with, then those'd be linked from a menu [21:25] but it all sounds like a waste of effort to be honest [21:25] I have several minitapes [21:25] I first need to transfer them to the disk [21:26] I no longer know how the camcorder works [21:26] :( [21:26] I need to RTFM [21:28] daftykins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbW8oK1vezM& [21:28] it is all pixelised [21:28] :) [21:28] Pinnacle Studio back in 2001 or 2002 sucked [21:28] I converted from DVD-Video and exported to YouTube [21:29] yes you probably used trash tools that transcoded and degraded the source [21:30] daftykins: what could one expect 20 years ago? [21:30] :) [21:30] no you're just blaming the tools now [21:30] I just hope the tapes are still okay [21:31] bitrate -> target [21:31] :) [21:31] Pinnacle Studio 20 years ago [21:55] why would you use the same thing o0 [22:00] :) [22:00] daftykins: I am leaving to bed... I will return in the morning [22:00] take care dear ones [22:00] the cola demon