[13:59]  * RikMills tries calamares on studio
[14:39] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: I'm running a rebuild now. The version you have likely doesn't have the fixes I made.
[14:40] <Eickmeyer> Unfortunately, even with the LGW builders back online, looks like it will be a while.
[14:41] <Eickmeyer> Oh! It's building. Roughly 30 minutes.
[14:42] <RikMills> I updated the settings package before I started from the one now in release
[14:42] <Eickmeyer> Good call. :)
[14:42] <RikMills> Install suceeded!
[14:42] <Eickmeyer> \o/
[14:44] <RikMills> sddm is a black screen :/
[14:44] <Eickmeyer> I might have to fix that, it shouldn't be.
[14:44] <OvenWerks> black is the new orange ...
[14:54] <Eickmeyer> Right now, the default sddm theme is pointing to a symlink, so it might be that the path must be explicitly stated. Not too hard, just a PITA in the future.
[15:42] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: sddm looks fine in the live session. I'll try an install, but I don't know how it didn't translate into the install for you.
[15:57] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Fresh install, no issues with sddm. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[15:57] <RikMills> weird
[15:58] <Eickmeyer> Granted, I'm using a different ISO build than you are, so maybe that might have something to do with it?
[16:03] <Eickmeyer> Overall, I'm very pleased with how this turned out.
[16:16] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: If you want to switch to Calamares, you could probably do everything I did and just Kubuntu-ify it.
[16:47] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: pondering it. I want OEM install mode though, so want to see how that gets on
[16:47] <Eickmeyer> Calamares has an OEM install mode, but I don't know how well it works or what it takes.
[16:48] <Eickmeyer> That's a question for tsimonq2, for sure, or really anyone ese in l-d.
[18:11] <tsimonq2> Eickmeyer: Basically, XDG layering.
[18:11] <tsimonq2> That's on my TODO list for today actually.
[18:53] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: Cool!
[18:53] <Eickmeyer> BTW, I'm typing this from my brand new Groovy install.
[19:00] <tsimonq2> Nice.
[19:26] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: So, I noticed that after install, it left an extra file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dvd.list. Any way to get Calamares to remove that?
[19:29] <tsimonq2> Er, wat?
[19:30] <tsimonq2> Looking.
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> that dvd.list might be a Studio-only thing from eons ago.
[19:30] <tsimonq2> before_bootloader_context.conf
[19:30] <tsimonq2> That was what my instinct told me.
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> Ok, just put a "rm ..." line in there?
[19:30] <tsimonq2> No, not exactly.
[19:31] <tsimonq2> First, test if it's an Ubuntu Studio-ism
[19:31] <Eickmeyer> I know that dvd is, because Studio was the first to require a DVD-ROM.
[20:06] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: Adding this: "command: if [ -f /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dvd.list ]; then; rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dvd.list; fi" with a timeout: 10
[20:09] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: (minus the ; after then)
[20:16] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[21:10] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: https://discourse.ardour.org/t/anyone-encountering-rt-jack-issues-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-20-04-lts/103477/25
[21:10] <OvenWerks> I guess this is something we may have to look at in the future
[21:11] <OvenWerks> it seems to be unique to gnome-shell or perhaps wayland
[21:11] <OvenWerks> more than one person has had this problem.
[21:13] <OvenWerks> He say no running wayland
[21:13] <Eickmeyer> Hmmmm....
[21:14] <Eickmeyer> (page it taking forever to load)
[21:14] <OvenWerks> anyway, my son wants help with school
[21:14] <Eickmeyer> That is mine usually.
[21:18] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: I can't read that page, but 20.04 uses X by default. I don't see the relevant comment where they're using Wayland, I only see where they didn't have lowlatency installed.
[21:19] <Eickmeyer> Rather, I finally got to that page.
[21:48] <OvenWerks> down lower they had to manipulate c-groups
[21:49] <OvenWerks> It seems that systemd was giving them rt in a different cgroup than jack was running
[21:49] <OvenWerks> wayland is not the problem
[21:50] <OvenWerks> And it seems it is only "some systems" which makes no sense at all
[22:08] <OvenWerks> the problem on the ardour forums is that people say "Ubuntu" which may mean any flavour.
[23:35] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: There's no real way of knowing. Also, 20.04.1 is due out in a couple months, and we *know* from past experiences that LTS releases get better with time and that they're *never* great day of release.
[23:36] <Eickmeyer> For instance, stuff with lilv that we ran into. We fixed it, and it will be part of 20.04.1.