[00:00] <travism> not sure what packaging stuff it takes to compile i686 on x86_64
[00:02] <jpmh> I would like to add setting of color into the PS1 prompt.  So, I added \e[1;33m before my normal prompt - all looks GREAT unless I have a line that is 40 or more characters and I try and edit it, I do use set -o vi, so I want vi style editing.  Seems like the editr gets confused when the line is long and the prompy has color setting.  What am I missing here?
[00:14] <Deano59> how do I remove all languages except english/uk?
[00:14] <travism> is there such a thing as a language pack?
[00:14] <Deano59> yes.
[00:18] <travism> i have a blur effect on my windows
[00:18] <travism> its um kde
[00:34] <Sven_vB> in one of my notebooks, Ubuntu xenial has problems interpreting the touchpad input. is there a way to ignore mouse movements that hit a certain speed limit, or even undo them once they become faster than allowed?
[00:37] <Sven_vB> most incidents of the problem are that while I try to drag and drop, the cursor suddenly accelerates in another direction. one way to reliably avoid it is to use a touchpad pen (fake finger for when wearing gloves in winter), but I'd like to use my normal fingers most of the time.
[00:38] <Sven_vB> the touchpad usually goes back to sane within a few seconds after I lift my finger, but I have to restart the drag and drop action, that's annoying.
[00:42] <RoseBus> in terminal i am typing echo with a double quote, then i shift+insert from my clipboard to paste.  but instead of pasting multiple lines, it is trying to execute the lines in the shell terminal
[00:42] <RoseBus> like this, echo "shift+insert
[00:42] <RoseBus> am i doing something wrong?
[00:44] <Bashing-om> RoseBus: In the paste is a new line ?
[00:44] <RoseBus> yes it's several lines
[00:45] <Sven_vB> RoseBus, does the first line include a double quote?
[00:46] <RoseBus> Sven_vB, that's the first thing I looked for, no it does not.  It's a signed PGP message
[00:46] <Sven_vB> RoseBus, depending on what you're trying to do, it might be more failsafe to just run a command that prints clipboard contents.
[00:47] <RoseBus> cool i'll try xsel
[00:48] <Sven_vB> if you're planning on doing that operation more often, consider making a shell script, too.
[00:50] <RoseBus> ty
[00:50] <RoseBus> xsel worked
[00:51] <RoseBus> but i dont know why it wasn't picking up the whole thing as a continuous string when I had a double quote in there
[00:51] <RoseBus> i guess it doesn't matter that much
[02:05] <Sir_Leto> screen cannot find sessions running when I try to join them, they show up when you run screen -ls, but then screen says the session can't be found when you try to join it
[02:05] <Sir_Leto> I think my s/o tried to make the screen session shareable
[02:05] <Sir_Leto> and know the state is listed as (unkown)
[03:04] <tripelb> My Ubuntu create startup disk will not recognize my Manjaro...
[03:04] <tripelb> Iso
[03:50] <Ascavasaion> Rhythmbox music player/collection manager.  HOw can I get it to refresh the playlist when I add music?  I can do it manually, but then it creates duplicated etc.  All I need is for it to check... how often does it check?  Any ideas?
[04:33] <SynfulAck> ssh has the ~. [enter] hotkey to break out of a unresponsive terminal. Is there something like that for everything else? ctrl+c didnt do anything or ctrl+d.
[04:33] <Saeid> Hello, I'm in kubuntu 20.04, nvidia is installed via additional software (nvidia 440 for rtx2070), the problem is: in kde Display Configuration I can't see my laptop monitor, I just can see my external HDMI monitor, I also can't turn off my laptop monitor, my purpose is to just have HDMI monitor turn on and laptop be turn off, output of xrandr is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2PnrYGtF3z/
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> Saeid: did you try a driver switch yet?
[05:02] <Saeid> I don't have my laptop monitor connected in xrandr, what should I do? I just have HDMI monitor connected and ok, but laptop monitor is disconnected but is also turn on always (freezing on a tty screen)
[05:17] <mr_lou> Hello
[05:18] <th4ntis> o7
[05:18] <mr_lou> I seem to have a problem with USB drivers I think. The USB device I plug into my Intel Compute Stick to play video files from it, randomly gets remounted, causing VLC to crash after some hours.
[05:18] <mr_lou> When installing Windows 8 it doesn't happen.
[05:19] <mr_lou> Only on Ubuntu (18.04)
[05:19] <mr_lou> Is there any known USB driver issues like that?
[05:32] <mr_lou> Related to autosuspend perhaps?
[06:00] <Saeid> How can I save current dispaly settings in KDE? when I reboot they revert
[06:22] <dreamon> hello. bought a new thinkpad E15. /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/scaling_max_freq and scaling_min_freq both outputs 4900000. CPU uses normally 1.8GHz. what can I do?
[07:34] <basalt> hi, if i connect with 19_10 to a 5ghz wlan i always be disconnected after a random time, even cannot ping default gateway, but with 2.4ghz connection to same router its working, any hints ?
[07:41] <chuuna> I upgraded from ubuntu 18,04 to 20.04 and now the double tap to click dont work for some reason, anyone know how to solve this? Btw, im running i3wm
[07:42] <chuuna> (double tap to click, touchpad)
[08:25] <tamarind> hey guys, been using ubuntu 18.04 and when i try to open the "endless sky" game it says your system needs open gl 3.0. then i follow multiple instructions online the latest being this one https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/8tpq05/how_can_update_my_display_driver_to_opengl_33/
[08:26] <tamarind> and it took a long time to complete the dist upgrade and so. but at the end when i execute the last comment it still says "OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 20.0.7 - kisak-mesa PPA
[08:26] <tamarind> "
[08:26] <tamarind> can some one here help me with this please ?
[08:40] <tomreyn> tamarind: hi there. can you post the output of    cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:42] <Gwalenn> Hi, I try to install Ubuntu. I want Windows on a raid 0 hdds and Ubuntu on another hdd (no raid). If I set my motherboard on raid 0 for Windows, I can not see any drive on Ubuntu installer.
[08:42] <tatertots> Gwalenn: that's expected
[08:43] <tomreyn> !fakeraid
[08:43] <tatertots> Gwalenn: your windows/fake raid controller driver is windows only...
[08:45] <tomreyn> if this is intel fakeraid you could actually make it work on ubuntu, too, i think, but i don't know if grub supports it, so you may not be able to boot off it.
[08:45] <Gwalenn> tatertots: my goal is windows on raid 0 and Ubuntu on a standard drive
[08:46] <Gwalenn> and I its amd motherboard
[08:47] <tatertots> Gwalenn: doesn't really mattere if CPU is intel/AMD...Linux won't see drives with sata mode set to its current state in bios
[08:48] <Gwalenn> tatertots: ok. It is impossible to Ubuntu to see other drive on sata if I have two drive in raid 0 on my 4 hdd hardware ?
[08:51] <tatertots> Gwalenn: you'd have to change BIOS sata mode to AHCI/SATA if you want drives to be seen by Linux
[08:53] <Gwalenn> tatertots: but If i come back to AHCI after installed windows on raid 0, what 's happened ?
[08:53] <Gwalenn> I will losse my win installation, no ?
[08:53] <tatertots> Gwalenn: that would nullify your raid of course
[08:54] <Gwalenn> in reallity I can't do this : Windows on raid and Linux on normal hdd. Anyway, I give up
[08:55] <tatertots> Gwalenn: you could buy a hardware raid card if you really want
[08:56] <tatertots> Gwalenn: all the LSI chipset based hardware raid controllers have good linux support or a Dell PERC controller
[08:56] <Gwalenn> tatertots: no thanks :-D I have enough hardware...
[09:00] <tomreyn> Gwalenn: this explains how you can keep your existing windows installation: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-installation-on-computers-with-intel-r-rst-enabled/15347
[09:02] <OERIAS> Hi, I have an issue with sound on the budgie desktop
[09:02] <OERIAS> When I plug in a headset or headphones it does not play sound to the said headphones
[09:02] <OERIAS> I have to go to go to the sound settings to and change microphone to headset
[09:02] <OERIAS> is there a way for the system to automatically set the sound output to the headset/headphones?
[09:06] <hansh> Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-0ubuntu9) ...
[09:06] <hansh> Error: Timeout was reached
[09:06] <hansh> its running on a very slow (virtual) harddrive, that's know
[09:06] <hansh> n
[09:06] <hansh> should i be worried?
[09:06] <OERIAS> ping
[09:07] <tomreyn> !patience | OERIAS
[09:07] <tomreyn> hansh: which ubuntu version are you running there?
[09:08] <hansh> tomreyn, 20.04 headless "netinst"
[09:08] <tomreyn> hansh: by "netinst" you mean that you installed using mini.iso? or pxe bootstrapped? also, which command did you run that created this output?
[09:09] <tomreyn> ...and what's the full output (on a pastebin, see /topic)
[09:09] <hansh> i installed it from a 18.04 running wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/linux http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/pxelinux.0 && echo OK
[09:11] <hansh> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CHFgxFy6vJ/
[09:12] <hansh> the command was: apt-get install eatmydata
[09:13] <frad> I logged in ubuntu 20.04 and now the nm-applet icon and the mouse while running vlc now look different. why?
[09:14] <Gwalenn> tomreyn: I red it, but not sure this works for me
[09:15] <tamarind> tomreyn, thanks for replying https://termbin.com/le3n
[09:18] <tomreyn> hansh: hmm, not sure then. have you tried cancelling?
[09:19] <hansh> ah no, it apparently finished after printing that message (it was the very last line it printed though), the program seems to be successfully installed
[09:19] <hansh> ctrl+c wasn't required, it stopped on its own
[09:20] <tomreyn> hansh: ah good, so it just took a while.
[09:23] <tomreyn> tamarind: try removing the kisak-ppa PPA, then upgrade to !ltse
[09:24] <tomreyn> !ltse | tamarind
[09:26] <tomreyn> you're on the vanilla 18.04.0 / .1 kernel - which isn't wrong, but it may not be new enough to make the i915 driver work with higher GL profile (i'm not sure which GL version it can reach, though)
[09:30] <amprxc> Hello ! When I run "ps -aux", some users have a "+" at the end of their names. Like "systemd+". What does it mean ? Thanks
[09:31] <tomreyn> tamarind: actually this kernel image you have installed is from 2018?!
[09:31] <tomreyn> tamarind: actually no, that's not what you run now.
[09:32] <tomreyn> i was thinking this was your post, and it was recent, only noticed now it's a year old: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/8tpq05/how_can_update_my_display_driver_to_opengl_33/
[09:32] <EtherMan> Anyone that could tell me how I can set the Config password for the slapd package? dpkg-reconfigure lets me set the admin and rootDS, but not the config pw :/
[09:33] <tomreyn> amprxc: that the actual value did not fit the width of this column, i.e. it was abbreviated
[09:33] <hansh> the command "apt purge unattended-upgrades" does not stop this process:     665 ?        00:00:00 unattended-upgr
[09:34] <hansh> im guessing it's supposed to?
[09:34] <nibzAU> hello all :) i was wondering if anyon has experience with xampp and ubuntu.. i am new to ubuntu and installed xamp and tried changing my document root folder ut getting a access forbidden error
[09:34] <amprxc> hansh oooooooooooh ! And how can I expand the column ?
[09:34] <hansh> amprxc, dunno, someone else here might though
[09:35] <amprxc> hansh ok thanks
[09:36] <tomreyn> amprxc: see its !man page (ps(1)), and the --columns and -o options there,
[09:36] <tomreyn> also -w / w
[09:36] <tomreyn> hansh: hmm, yes, it probably should have, that's strange.
[09:37] <hansh> tomreyn, at least it stops the process from starting after a reboot
[09:38] <amprxc> tomreyn no prob. I found : "ps ax o user:16,pid,pcpu,pmem,vsz,rss,stat,start_time,time,cmd"
[09:39] <tomreyn> hansh: so it's no longer listed in ps now? you could have run "ps ef PID" replacing "PID" by the processes PID, and then looked for its full path on the file system, to see whether there were any leftovers after uninstalling the package.
[09:39] <tomreyn> amprxc: so you used 'o' :)
[09:43] <hansh> tomreyn, well find / -iname "*unattended*"  didn
[09:44] <hansh> didn't find anything so guess it's gone (and sorry about the accidental enters.. using a 14" laptop with a 13" chassis and small keyboard x.x)
[09:44] <hansh> (and the enter button is right below the ' button)
[09:44] <tomreyn> hehe
[09:45] <tomreyn> 14" laptop with a 13" chassis? i hope you didn't have to split the mainboard.
[09:53] <hansh> erm, the exact claim from the manufacturer is: 14" display in 13" chassis   - https://i.imgur.com/wmF3Hep.png
[09:53] <hansh> guess "screen" is important
[09:54] <tomreyn> this makes no sense to me, but fortunately it's not an ubuntu issue. ;)
[09:55] <russkel> Hi all, is there any known issues with rpi3b ubuntu server crashing on 18.04.4 / 20.04 when the board tries to clock down the CPU? https://github.com/ROBOTIS-GIT/turtlebot3/issues/593
[09:56] <russkel> there's a serial console output there, and it shows cpu frequency change errors and hardware interrupt errors etc
[09:56] <k_sze> Anybody has this problem where they install apt install torbrowser-launcher, but Tor Browser doesn't actually launch?
[09:58] <tomreyn> russkel: cat /proc/version     reports what?
[09:59] <tomreyn> k_sze: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/torbrowser-launcher/+bugs
[10:00] <k_sze> ugh... sounds like that package hasn't ever really worked. lol
[10:02] <hansh> why is rsyslogd still running after `service rsyslog stop` ?
[10:02] <russkel> tomreyn, Linux version 5.4.0-1011-raspi (buildd@bos02-arm64-055) (gcc version 9.3.0 (Ubuntu 9.3.0-10ubuntu2)) #11-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 8 07:43:33 UTC 2020
[10:02] <russkel> good place to start
[10:02] <hansh> (running the same command on debian10 stops rsyslogd from running)
[10:03] <russkel> oh hmm 1011? why not 1023
[10:03] <k_sze> hansh, you're sure you don't have a custom instance of rsyslog, right?
[10:04] <k_sze> cuz it's definitely possible to define more than the default instance. We're done that at my last company.
[10:04] <russkel> nevermind there is no 1023, that must have been 18.04
[10:04] <k_sze> *We've
[10:04] <barnex> Hello, I'm having a display setting issue. Every time my displays go to sleep they wake up in an incorrect configuration (with panning enabled). I think it's gnome doing it, cause the same happens if I just change my settings through control center. Here's what I set in control center: https://i.imgur.com/4ZYzT40.png here's what is actually set: https://i.imgur.com/mg5MZXx.png
[10:04] <hansh> i haven't customized rsyslog in any way, it's just what's installed from  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot
[10:04] <hansh> but i need to remount / as ro, and i can't do that because rsyslogd  1434           syslog    7w   REG    8,2  1391006     75 /var/log/syslog
[10:04] <funnybunny2> My FnLock key is lit up when function keys are enabled. Shouldn't it be the opposite?
[10:05] <barnex> I can go to advanced in nvidia and disable panning (0x0), but after the displays go to sleep it'll rever to whatever gnome wants again.
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> barnex: ubuntu version and graphics card chipset?
[10:05] <funnybunny2> Oh, nvm. I guess I'm supposed to hold Fn to type a function key
[10:06] <barnex> lotuspsychje: thanks, yeah: Ubuntu 19.10; nvidia-driver-440
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> barnex: how are both displays connected?
[10:08] <hansh> rsyslogd keeps auto-restarting very fast if killed too,
[10:08] <hansh> killall -w rsyslogd -s KILL ; mount / -o remount,ro
[10:08] <hansh> mount: /: mount point is busy.
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> !who | hansh
[10:08] <tomreyn> !info linux-image-raspi focal
[10:08] <barnex> lotuspsychje: both are directly connected to graphics card, one via display port, other via hdmi cable.
[10:09] <tomreyn> ubottu: you're a liar
[10:09] <hansh> lotuspsychje, i'm not really talking to anyone in particular, i'm hoping someone knows how to stop rsyslogd in 20.04
[10:09] <tomreyn> russkel: 5.4.0-1011-raspi would indeed be the latest according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=focal-updates&arch=arm64&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image-raspi
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> barnex: ok tnx, could you try to: journalctl -f and systemsleep and come back, then pastebin the output?
[10:10] <russkel> yeah I got confused, tomreyn
[10:10] <barnex> lotuspsychje: fwiw it all started after I switched my DP display to 4:3 mode with bars - instead of getting a correct resolution the panning has started, and even though I've came back to native 16:9 it never went. Re your last message I'll try that, thanks.
[10:10] <InnovAnon-Inc> try: systemctl stop rsyslogd
[10:12] <InnovAnon-Inc> !hansh there's something restarting it. probably it's systemd or equivalent. less commonly, it could be restarted in inittab. if you didn't add it to inittab yourself, then forget I mentioned it
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> barnex: could you check if bug #1573345 affects you?
[10:16] <tomreyn> russkel: so i think you may want to report a bug against linux-meta, or see if there's one already
[10:17] <russkel> on bugs.launchpad ?
[10:17] <tomreyn> yes, but using the "ubuntu-bug" software
[10:17] <tomreyn> !bug | russkel
[10:17] <russkel> will do. thanks tomreyn
[10:19] <tomreyn> russkel: be aware ports are not fully supported, though, so this is 'best effort'
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> russkel: can you tell us more about your pi3's firmware version?
[10:23] <hansh> figured out how to stop rsyslogd: chmod -x /usr/sbin/rsyslogd ; service rsyslog stop; killall -w rsyslogd -g -s KILL ; chmod +x /usr/sbin/rsyslogd;
[10:23] <russkel> tomreyn, okay understood
[10:23] <russkel> lotuspsychje, is that something that can be upgraded?
[10:23] <tomreyn> hansh: that's not what you'd normally do, no
[10:24] <funnybunny2> How can I get dark mode for Chrome?
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> russkel: im reading threads related to overclocking and DVFS firmware
[10:24] <tomreyn> hansh: why are you trying to stop it in the first place instead of either deactivating the service or uninstalling it?
[10:24] <russkel> lotuspsychje, stock, haven't touched it
[10:24] <funnybunny2> Windows and Mac OS have a system setting for dark/light. Does Ubuntu have this?
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> funnybunny2: there's a handy addon for browsers called 'dark reader' if you want
[10:25] <funnybunny2> Wondering if I can get the official dark mode for Chrome
[10:25] <tomreyn> hansh: ah you tried to stop the service using the "service" command. i hadn't noticed all that you wrote above. which ubuntu release is this?
[10:25] <dreamon> having issue playing audio. pavucontrol only device is dummy,no sound. I found out, aplay wavefile as root is playing audio, well. as normal user no audio is there. But no error. (maybe helpful ..)
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> funnybunny2: https://darkreader.org/
[10:26] <tomreyn> hansh: probably still 20.04, it's what you said previously. but i suspect your installation did not go well, or you have a read-only file system.
[10:26] <hansh> 20.04, and i want to mount / -o remount,ro ; but it keeps saying "mount: /: mount point is busy."  , and the command lsof / | awk '$4 ~ /[0-9].*w/' prints processes which is keeping it busy, rsyslogd was 1 of those processes (along with atop and 1 other service)
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> russkel: you can also try the !arm channel if they know about overclocking + firmware or an existing/new !bug as tomreyn adviced
[10:27] <tomreyn> hansh: well if you're running the active OS off this file system then most certainly it'll be busy
[10:27] <funnybunny2> lotuspsychje: This is pretty cool. It doesn't work for the Google home page though
[10:27] <funnybunny2> (When I open a new tab)
[10:27] <hansh> it's running, but not doing anything other than running.. and running an SSH server
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> funnybunny2: it does for me on FF
[10:28] <funnybunny2> I'm using Chrome
[10:28] <tomreyn> hansh: reboot to recovery, that's the only sane way you can boot *this* system so that you can have / r-o
[10:28] <hansh> do i have a network connection in recovery?
[10:28] <russkel> !arm
[10:28] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> funnybunny2: well we cant really support chrome, try chromium instead or firefox
[10:28] <russkel> lotuspsychje, good tip, I'll check out that channel now
[10:28] <hansh> ill try recovery mode, thanks
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> good luck russkel
[10:29] <tomreyn> hansh: no, you have either network connectivity or r-o /
[10:29] <russkel> thanks lotuspsychje
[10:30] <tomreyn> hansh: maybe discuss what you are really trying to achieve there
[10:30] <funnybunny2> lotuspsychje: I installed a dark theme for Chrome which fixed it. Now everything is dark. Cool
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> enjoy funnybunny2
[10:31] <funnybunny2> ty
[10:31] <tomreyn> !xy | hansh
[10:31] <funnybunny2> lol
[10:31] <funnybunny2> Classic
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> funnybunny2: ?
[10:31] <barnex> lotuspsychje: sorry it took so long, I've had some issues with not knowing how to use my terminal: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c4gCtmwyrq/. Also the problem seems to only happen when the monitors actually shut down, just blanking the screen causes no issue. I'll read the bug now.
[10:31] <funnybunny2> "XY problem"
[10:33] <barnex> lotuspsychje: the "Creative Technology Ltd Sound Blaster Play! 2 Consumer Control" device is connected via monitors USB hub, so it's a good way to track on/off
[10:34] <tomreyn> hansh: the "service" command is and i think has always been just a wrapper around the commands provided by the init system in use. all currently supported ubuntu releases use the systemd init system, so i would recommend you familiarize yourself with its commands and use those directly. systemctl is the service control command there.
[10:35] <akik> hansh: "sudo systemctl stop rsyslog; sudo systemctl mask rsyslog" does that work?
[10:37] <barnex> lotuspsychje: and after more investigation it's not that bug. Just cycling power of the monitors reenables panning for me
[10:39] <barnex> lotuspsychje: weird thing is I can't fix it with "xrandr --output DVI-D-0 --off --panning 0x0 --output HDMI-0 --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0 --rotate left --output DVI-I-1 --off --output DVI-I-0 --off --output DP-1 --off --output DP-0 --primary --mode 1920x1080 --pos 1080x376 --rotate normal --panning 0x0", have to actually go into nvidia settings
[10:44] <barnex> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2t3td9qDtR/ so weird, I must not be understanding something
[10:50] <barnex> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VrbSHBtXKQ/ am I using xrandr wrong? I'd expect it to not add panning and in that case actually not change the configuration at all
[10:51] <Simooon> I have a drive from an old computer, with a "lvm2 pv" partition, so as far as I can read this means that there are sub partitions in this partition. Does anyone know how to access these partitions? I can not remember what is on the drive, but I'd like a look before I reformat it.
[10:54] <hansh> when i enter recovery mode, it stops at "loading initial ramdisk ..." - hmm, i remember the same issue on another system, where the solution was kernel boot parameter dev=ttyS1
[10:56] <hansh> i want to make an image of /dev/sda on a VPS, i do not have access to the hypervisor, and recovery mode stops at "loading initial ramdisk ...", and if i try in normal mode to run mount / -o remount,ro  it says "mount: /: mount point is busy." , any suggestions?
[10:57] <tomreyn> Simooon: use lvmdiskscan or pvscan
[10:59] <tomreyn> Simooon: and once those detect it you'll work with pvs, vgs, lvs, and possibly want to   lvchange -ay SOMEVG/SOMELV    and then mount the file system (assuming there is one) on that LV.
[11:00] <tomreyn> hansh: cat /proc/version    reports what?
[11:01] <Simooon> tomreyn, okay will tryt that, thanks for the tip :-)
[11:01] <tomreyn> you're welcome :)
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> russkel: thank you to report bug #1880388
[11:09] <russkel> lotuspsychje, thanks for your help :)
[11:10] <russkel> also forwarded the bug to the turtlebot3 manufacturer so they can get involved and fix their product ;)
[11:13] <Austin__> i have a fresh 20.04 install on a fresh nvme drive, but my BIOS can't detect it (PCIe, old-ish MoBo). How can i move /boot/ to a usb stick (detectable by BIOS) safely?
[11:13] <echoSMILE> Hi. I installed ubuntu in one raspberry pi 3b plus, but the screen nothing shows on screen, from leds things seems to be loading. Any issue related ?
[11:17] <hansh> tomreyn, nevermind, seems there's something wrong with the hypervisor, because now the VM can't be booted at all (not even to the bios screen)
[11:19] <echoSMILE> Already boot (but only after reboot)
[11:19] <echoSMILE> The default ubuntu for raspberry don't bring desktop environment ?
[11:21] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: if you installed this https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi then the headline says "Ubuntu Server" and that comes without a GUI by default.
[11:21] <echoSMILE> tomreyn: oh ok
[11:21] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: you can, of course, install one, though
[11:22] <tomreyn> (as explained on the tutorial linked there)
[11:24] <tomreyn> Austin__: it's not just about moving /boot, you'll also need to update the grub configuration located there, the initrd located there, and, moreover, ensure this system can boot in bios mode (i.a. it is not an uefi installation) and grub is available to the firmware.
[11:24] <tomreyn> Austin__: did you create the installation on the nvme while it was connected to a different computer then?
[11:25] <Austin__> tomreyn: thats exactly what im unfamiliar with. have been doing a lot of reading but feel very out of my depth
[11:25] <Austin__> i can boot to a live usb, and install to the nvme as it is detected by the kernel no problem
[11:26] <Austin__> just pre-kernel, im relying on the motherboard, and it's too old (2014/15) to support booting from an nvme
[11:27] <tomreyn> Austin__: did you spot the last question i asked, too?
[11:27] <Austin__> no, the nvme has only ever been in one machine
[11:28] <Austin__> ^in answer to above
[11:28] <tomreyn> ah so you installed to the nvme while booting the same computer from an ubuntu installer usb stick or something?
[11:28] <Austin__> exactly
[11:28] <Austin__> then intend to move /boot to a usb
[11:28] <tomreyn> and the old mainboard can't switch between bios / uefi booting, yet?
[11:29] <Austin__> it has functionality for both
[11:29] <tomreyn> and have you tried booting off the nvme using either mode?
[11:29] <Austin__> neither support nvme unfortunately
[11:29] <Austin__> and no updates from OEM to enable it...
[11:29] <tomreyn> ok, it seemed worth discussing it
[11:29] <Austin__> :)
[11:29] <Austin__> understandably, it's be a lot easier that way :)
[11:30] <Austin__> it'd*
[11:30] <akik> Austin__: have you tried installing grub+kernel+initramfs on the usb stick?
[11:30] <Austin__> im not sure how, my google-fu is a little off as i'm so unfamiliar with this
[11:31] <tomreyn> this would need to be a different usb stick than the one the installer / live image is running from, i guess.
[11:31] <Austin__> yep, i have two sticks for that reason
[11:33] <tomreyn> do you prefer bios or uefi booting then?
[11:33] <Austin__> lets go uefi
[11:34] <tomreyn> gpt partition table on the usb, a 250 mb efi system partition (with the corresponding partition flag) and a vfat file system on it
[11:35] <Austin__> i'll just do that now, bear with me
[11:36] <Austin__> just reflashing nvme to correct anything i might have changed prior to now
[11:37] <tomreyn> by "reflashing" you mean you'll install ubuntu to it in uefi mode?
[11:38] <Austin__> yea
[11:38] <tomreyn> good :)
[11:39] <tomreyn> when you did, don't reboot just after the installation completes, yet
[11:39] <Austin__> ok, ready
[11:41] <tomreyn> Austin__: you just installed ubuntu using the ubuntu installer in *one* minute? nvme's are fast, but... this seems too fast?
[11:41] <Austin__> it was already running when i started talking to you ;)
[11:41] <hansh> maybe he paired it with i9-10900k
[11:42] <Austin__> if i had a cpu that new this wouldnt be an issue... :(
[11:42] <tomreyn> Austin__: which ubuntu version are you instlling actually (sorry if you already told)?
[11:43] <Austin__> 20.04
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> barnex: 2 more ideas crossing my mind, is testing this on the 435 driver as a compare test, or jumping to 20.04 before 19.10 going eol
[11:43] <Austin__> srver
[11:43] <tomreyn> ah right i just spotted it, sorry
[11:43] <tomreyn> oh server, ok, good to know
[11:43] <Austin__> so, new gpt on usb, 1G size, + boot flags?
[11:44] <Austin__> 1G size partition + boot flags
[11:44] <Austin__> i'll add vfat fs after
[11:44] <tomreyn> 1 GB might be too large for an ESP with an old mainboard. also, you'll definitely not need that much.
[11:45] <Austin__> ah ok
[11:45] <Austin__> 512M did you say before?
[11:45] <tomreyn> Austin__: do you have other fixed storages installed ont his system, or do you plan to have any?
[11:45] <Austin__> no
 gpt partition table on the usb, a 250 mb efi system partition (with the corresponding partition flag) and a vfat file system on it
[11:46] <tomreyn> Austin__: or you could just make it the same size the installer makes it on the nvme
[11:47] <adrian_1908> I want to install Ubuntu as a Desktop OS but with a different window manager like i3. Is the Server image suitable for that, or does it contain domain-specific packages and configs that one wouldn't want on the Desktop?
[11:48] <adrian_1908> p.s. Don't want the default applications of the Gnome DE either
[11:48] <mesaboogie> adrian_1908: server will work. the installer should ask you what services you want to run anyways.
[11:48] <adrian_1908> Ok, thanks!
[11:48] <Austin__> tomreyn: done, 512M, and vfat added
[11:49] <tomreyn> adrian_1908: you may want to install network-manager and use that for managing your network connection and caching resolver rather than cloud-init, netplan and systemd-networkd (which would be the server default)
[11:50] <tomreyn> Austin__: and you tagged it as esp, too?
[11:50] <tomreyn> Austin__: "it" -> the partition which will be the efi system partition
[11:50] <Austin__> tomreyn: no...
[11:51] <tomreyn> glad i asked!
[11:52] <echoSMILE> whats the password of root by default ?
[11:52] <tomreyn> !root | echoSMILE
[11:53] <Austin__> tomreyn: tagged as in, a label?
[11:53] <Austin__> or something else?
[11:53] <Austin__> im googling...
[11:53] <tomreyn> Austin__: a partition flag
[11:53] <tomreyn> stored in the gpt
[11:53] <echoSMILE> tomreyn: tks
[11:53] <tomreyn> fdisk -l      will show the same for the nvme
[11:58] <Austin__> ok, i'll check the nvme
[11:58] <Austin__> and duplicate
[11:59] <tomreyn> Austin__: i'll be gone for about 15 minutes. once you're ready, you can just unmount what you have at /boot/efi now, then mount the new file system you created on the usb attached storages' esp there, and update fstab to point to this file systems' UUID (as seen on blkid)
[12:00] <Austin__> ok
[12:01] <tomreyn> Austin__: then mount it into /target/boot/efi, then chroot /target, then "apt install --reinstall" the existing linux-* packages (dpkg -l | grep '^ii  linux'), update-grub, grub-install
[12:03] <Austin__> thank you :)
[12:03] <echoSMILE> where I can set a static ip for wired interface from cli ?
[12:05] <adrian_1908> echoSMILE: `ip a`  or  `ip a | grep wlan0`
[12:05] <echoSMILE> one guide days that /etc/netplan/00-installer-config.yaml is the default file, but it donºt exist
[12:06] <adrian_1908> or however your interface is called
[12:06] <echoSMILE> s/days/says
[12:07] <adrian_1908> ah sorry, I read "where can I get", you meant set. My bad.
[12:08] <adrian_1908> echoSMILE: If you don't have a file in your netplan dir, you can simply create one. E.g. /etc/netplan/config.yaml
[12:11] <adrian_1908> echoSMILE: I don't have wifi set up right now, but something like this might work: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/thnsF78zkV/
[12:14] <adrian_1908> echoSMILE: Or rather: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KMCrZDDcXV/
[12:15] <echoSMILE> adrian_1908: tks. how to disable ipv6 btw ?
[12:17] <Austin__> tomreyn: you there?
[12:17] <adrian_1908> echoSMILE: Afaik you can't do that via netplan. Do you want to disable the IPv6 stack entirely (all the time) on your system?
[12:17] <TheFu> Is there a way to disabled the directory confinement for snaps? The default confinement is breaking our workflow.
[12:18] <echoSMILE> adrian_1908: yes
[12:21] <adrian_1908> echoSMILE: For that I would probably add a file, e.g. `/etc/sysctl.d/60-disable-ipv6.conf` and inside add the lines `net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1`. Also add 3-4 lines like that one, replacing ‘default’ with ‘all’, ‘lo’, ‘wlan0‘ to be sure.
[12:21] <echoSMILE> Tks
[12:22] <adrian_1908> This way IPv6 should be disabled on your machine entirely. You should see this if you run `ip a` and get no more `inet6` property in there.
[12:25] <adrian_1908> echoSMILE: You can also query these properties (after reboot) via `sysctl net.ipv6.conf.{all,default,lo,wlan0}.disable_ipv6`
[12:25] <adrian_1908> Should then all print `= 1`
[12:28] <Austin__> tomreyn: should i not be updating fstab after chroot?
[12:32] <pragomer> I got a serious and urgent network-issue with a new laptop: the laptop is a "HP 6hm83es",  Eth-Controller is: Realtek RTL8111/8169/8411, Wifi-Controller is: Realtek RTL 8821CE
[12:32] <pragomer> Wifi does not work at all (needs extra driver which I cannot install)
[12:33] <pragomer> LAN works but with strange dns -issues (I think so...): some websites work (google, ubuntuusers), some sites dont.... apt and software-center have NO internet
[12:33] <pragomer> any ideas? please I need help
[12:34] <vlt> pragomer: To begin: `ip a`, `ip r` and  `cat /etc/resolv.conf`
[12:37] <pragomer> vlt: thank you for taking your time for me. I will post the outputs as photo-screenshots... as I cannot get on internet on THAT laptop,ok?
[12:37] <Austin__> tomreyn: when i'm booted into the usb stick, /boot/efi is not present. think im missing something
[12:37] <Austin__> the live usb stick*
[12:37] <pragomer> ip a: https://i.imgur.com/tD4mboV.png
[12:38] <pragomer> ip r: https://i.imgur.com/tkngLTU.png
[12:38] <pragomer> resolv.conf: https://i.imgur.com/V1gJoz5.png
[12:40] <vlt> pragomer: There’s no IPv4 address on your device eno1 (and I have zero IPv6 experience). Is there a DHCP server present?
[12:41] <pragomer> vlt: yes, you are right... hostname -I only shows me a ipv6 address ...
[12:41] <pragomer> dhcp server is there... as 5 other computers in this house work properly with my fritzbox
[12:42] <vlt> pragomer: You could run `sudo journalctl -f` in a separate terminal to see what’s going on when you then try `sudo dhclient eno1`.
[12:43] <pragomer> I think its a driver issue because its a low budget discounter laptop (399 euro)... I think when I could get ubuntu to work with ipv6 for installing software I could get the "additional drivers" to work... and fix the problem
[12:43] <echoSMILE> why I can't login over ssh ? I already checked and I have the "PasswordAuthentication Yes"
[12:43] <pragomer> can I set ubuntu to work with ipv6 ?
[12:45] <pragomer> ok, setting up a manual ipv4 address seemed to work temporary...
[12:45] <TheFu> echoSMILE, sometimes, the sshd_config needs an option after ipv6 is removed.  Sec.  I'll check.
[12:45] <pragomer> vlt: thanks for the tip with "no ipv4" did oversee this..
[12:46] <echoSMILE> TheFu: I didnºt disabled ipv6 yet
[12:46] <TheFu> add "AddressFamily inet" to the sshd_config
[12:46] <TheFu> That setting isn't always needed.
[12:47] <TheFu> To troubleshoot ssh ... try ssh -vvv user@server
[12:47] <echoSMILE> Tks
[12:51] <echoSMILE> TheFu: hum, locally it worked, but from other host, the password is denied
[12:51] <echoSMILE> s/password/permission
[12:55] <tomreyn> Austin__: sorry, this took a while longer
[12:56] <Austin__> tomreyn: no worries :)
[12:56] <tomreyn> updaing fstab after chroot: does not matter, but it needs to be the fstab of the target system
[12:57] <Austin__> i havent really done anything since you last wrote, just googling
[12:57] <Austin__> ah ok, thats where i was confused, i was editing it on the live USB
[12:57] <Austin__> but never saved anything as i thought it wasnt right
[12:57] <tomreyn> Austin__: if /boot/efi is not present after boot from usb stick, then you didn'T boot in efi mode, i would think. to check:  echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[12:59] <TheFu> echoSMILE, check that the permissions on the ~/.ssh/ directory and all files inside are correct.  Usually, they need to be 700/600 except the public keys where 644 works.
[12:59] <lapion> I am wondering has haswell support been removed from ubuntu va-driver ?
[13:00] <Austin__> tomreyn: uefi...
[13:00] <TheFu> echoSMILE, perhaps if you posted the output showing the failures?
[13:00] <tomreyn> Austin__: so you have no file system mounted at /boot/efi, but does this directory exist?
[13:00] <Austin__> no, doesnt exist
[13:01] <echoSMILE> weird, now worked
[13:01] <Austin__> no, sorry, it's there
[13:01] <echoSMILE> tks
[13:01] <TheFu> echoSMILE, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2421268 has some troubleshooting ideas.
[13:01] <Austin__> i have no idea why umount /boot/efi didnt work earlier
[13:02] <tomreyn> Austin__: okay, just make sure that that ESP which is on the usb stick which you'll later want to boot from is mounted at /target/boot/efi
[13:02] <Austin__> yea ok
[13:02] <tomreyn> Austin__: there would have been an error message hinting on it
[13:03] <echoSMILE> TheFu: you don't wanna know why I got danied :x
[13:06] <Austin__> tomreyn: so, when you sau mount my usb vfat part to /target/boot/efi, should i have already mounted my nvme system partition to /target?
[13:06] <Austin__> say*
[13:06] <tomreyn> Austin__: umm, yes, i think this would be mounted there already after you installed.
[13:06] <Austin__> ah, i rebooted :S
[13:06] <tomreyn> interesting :)
[13:07] <Austin__> whoopsie
[13:07] <Austin__> i can just mount it there now and continue on?
[13:07] <tomreyn> yes
[13:07] <Austin__> ty
[13:08] <tomreyn> you'll need to mount the virtual file systems, too, before you chroot
[13:10] <tomreyn> for directory in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount --bind $directory /target$directory; done
[13:11] <Austin__> and the apt command...
[13:11] <tomreyn> "the apt command"?
[13:11] <Austin__> tomreyn: apt-install --reinstall $(dpkg -l......)
[13:11] <Austin__> ?
[13:11] <tomreyn> oh, so did you chroot, yet?
[13:11] <Austin__> yep
[13:11] <Austin__> updated fstab on target
[13:12] <tomreyn> and you did mount these virtual file systems before you started the chroot?
[13:12] <Austin__> mounted usb boot part to /boot/efi
[13:16] <tomreyn> Austin__: if everything's mounted in place then you can check which kernel packages are installed (apt list --installed 'linux-*'), and "apt install --reinstall ..." them
[13:17] <Austin__> 5.4.0-31
[13:17] <frad> how do I print a whole page as an image? it is too big for screenshot
[13:17] <frad> webpage
[13:18] <Austin__> base, firmware, headers
[13:18] <Austin__> oh so just step through each and --reinstall?
[13:18] <tomreyn> Austin__: actually reinstalling the kernel images is not strictly needed because the kernel will remain on /boot which is on the nvme. this is just to trigger having the initrd's (which are also in /boot, so also on the nvme) to be updated.
[13:19] <tomreyn> you can supply all the package names in one step <Austin__> oh so just step through each and --reinstall?
[13:19] <Austin__> gotcha
[13:20] <tomreyn> frad: there are web browser addons which offer this functionality. actually, i think both firefox and chromium have this integrated nowadays
[13:20] <frad> tomreyn, where in firefox?
[13:21] <tomreyn> frad: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-screenshots
[13:21] <hansh> frad, i ususally use the "Fireshot" addon to do that - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fireshot/
[13:21] <Austin__> tomreyn: when i chroot'd, my console changed, can i swap back to bash easily?
[13:21] <tomreyn> Austin__: just run /bin/bash
[13:21] <hansh> o neat, firefox has native support for it now?
[13:21] <felco> my computer is freezing after the lock screen, just happened again
[13:21] <tomreyn> Austin__: you can usually add this as an extra argument to the chroot command
[13:22] <hansh> awesome
[13:27] <Austin__> tomreyn: after i've chroot'd, i cant get web access
[13:27] <Austin__> apt install fails as a result
[13:28] <tomreyn> Austin__: is this a symbolic link? where to?    ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[13:29] <Austin__> yea
[13:29] <Zenyatta> @felco - try checking your power settings. Some hardware doesn't  take well to the Linux sleep mode and just hangs.
[13:29] <jalt> Hi, on default xenial (16.04) installs. is /tmp mounted as tmpfs (in RAM)? Additionally, if /tmp is indeed tmpfs, is that sufficient to guarantee that it is stored in RAM (ignoring swap)?
[13:30] <Austin__> ..run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf
[13:30] <hansh> jalt, that's not default 16.04 behaviour, no, but /tmp is cleared on every reboot by default iirc
[13:30] <tomreyn> Austin__: and this target exists?
[13:30] <tomreyn> Austin__: and does it look fine, too?
[13:31] <jalt> hmm, i am on xubuntu xenial and mount reports: tmpfs on /run/user/1000 type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=3282740k,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=1000)
[13:31] <Austin__> it's empty, but it exists
[13:31] <Austin__> the interface has no ip address FYI
[13:31] <jalt> it's unlikely but not impossible that i made it tmpfs myself many moons ago
[13:32] <tomreyn> Austin__: weren't you online before you started the chroot?
[13:32] <Austin__> yes
[13:32] <Austin__> if i exit, i'd get network access...
[13:32] <tomreyn> Austin__: and you mounted all the virtual file systems as i suggested?
[13:33] <tomreyn> jalt: i think (not 100% sure though) that tmpfs was only default since 18.04 LTS
[13:33] <tomreyn> jalt: xubuntu xenial is EOL, though
[13:34] <Austin__> tomreyn: i'll list the one's i mounted: /boot/efi from usb stick, /target from /dev/nvmen0p2 (/)
[13:34] <Austin__> that's it
[13:34] <Austin__> just had a bit of scrollback and dint see any others :S?
[13:35] <Austin__> didn't*
[13:35] <jalt> i'm trying to find an authoritative source that demonstrates if tmpfs is guaranteed to be in ram, since i am sure my /tmp is tmpfs (whether it was default or not was mere curiosity)
[13:35] <Austin__> balls, just spotted it
[13:35] <Austin__> brb
[13:35] <tomreyn> Austin__: <tomreyn> for directory in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount --bind $directory /target$directory; done
[13:36] <tomreyn> Austin__: i even asked to make sure, you just didn't answer :)
[13:36] <jalt> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
[13:37] <Austin__> sorry, i assumed you meant just boot and rootfs, i completely missed the line you just quoted
[13:38] <tomreyn> Austin__: no problem, but please point it out when something i say seems strange or you're not sure about it, such as "virtual file systems"
[13:39] <tomreyn> Austin__: so you'll need to unmount anything you may have mounted from within the chroot, then exit the chroot, then mount the virtual file systems, then chroot again, then see if you can access the internet
[13:39] <tomreyn> ping -c1 1.1.1.1
[13:39] <tomreyn> ping -c1 one.one.one.one
[13:40] <tomreyn> jalt: did you read it, yet, and did it answer your question?
[13:41] <jalt> posted it before reading it, as i was confident it would answer my question, and now that i read it, indeed it did :)
[13:41] <Austin__> tomreyn: theyre installed now :)
[13:41] <tomreyn> jalt: hmm then i should read it again, too.
[13:42] <tomreyn> Austin__: what's installed?
[13:42] <jalt> tmpfs is usually RAM but can be swapped and grown/shrunk, so not quite the usual definition of ramdisk. yet it works for me and my /tmp is indeed tmpfs, so all is good
[13:42] <Austin__> logs showing it's generated initrd.img and added boot menu entry etc
[13:42] <tomreyn> jalt: thanks, that's what i expected.
[13:43] <Austin__> tomreyn: the reinstall step after exiting chroot and mounting vfs' as you said
[13:43] <jalt> i probably went through the same process a long time ago, which is why i ended up setting tmp to tmpfs if xenial did not default to it, but alas, forgot about it and now had to refresh
[13:43] <Austin__> there's a chroot in there before the reinstall obv
[13:43] <tomreyn> Austin__: very well. and your chroot's fstab was already updated to point to the ESP?
[13:44] <tomreyn> Austin__: you reinstalled what exactly outside the chroot? i'm not sure i'm following, sorry.
[13:44] <Austin__> tomreyn: yes, fstab was pointing /boot/efi to the usb stick's UUID
[13:45] <tomreyn> Austin__: maybe by "reinstall" you are referring to mounting file systems.
[13:45] <tomreyn> Austin__: reinstalling the kernel packages would need to be done from *within* the chroot
[13:45] <Austin__> yep, thats what i did. sorry if i'm being confusing with incorrect terminology
[13:46] <tomreyn> jalt: why are you wondering about tmpfs is guaranteed not to be swapped, is this to prevent sensible info from being swapped to disk?
[13:46] <tomreyn> Austin__: okay, glad we verified this. :)
[13:47] <Austin__> so i should be good to reboot and select the new usb stick now?
[13:48] <jalt> tomreyn, no, swapping (when appropriate) is not a problem for my usage, i simply could not find anything on tmpfs that categorically described it always residing on RAM (as opposed to residing on ram if certain conditions were met, etc.)
[13:49] <tomreyn> Austin__: you need to grub-install, yet, unless you already did?
[13:49] <Austin__> nope, was waiting
[13:50] <Austin__> done, no errors reported
[13:50] <jalt> for the record i will be using /tmp to hold the contents of mounted loopfs ISOs temporarily, in order to edit and build custom ISOs, so using RAM made more sense than using a hard drive, and was trying to ensure that my /tmp was already setup that way (which is was)
[13:51] <jalt> *it was
[13:51] <tomreyn> Austin__: so, inside the chroot, you now should see "mount" repoorting that the usb stick's ESP is mounted at /boot/efi and an ls on this should show an EFI subdirectory containing an "ubuntu" subdirectory, and that should contain grub.cfg and grubx64.efi - is this so?
[13:52] <Austin__> yes, all as described
[13:52] <tomreyn> jalt: i see. you may want to play with swapiness and the other swap configurations if this is going to be a configuration you'll be using "in production", i.e. regularly.
[13:53] <jalt> been there done that :)
[13:54] <Austin__> tomreyn: although, in grub.cfg, it's searching for a disk with UUID that matches the nvme
[13:54] <Austin__> shouldnt that match the USB?
[13:54] <tomreyn> Austin__: not if you want the kernel and initrd to reside on the nvme
[13:54] <nbusrone> hi , for some reason , setting cannot cannot be access.Once I select System setting but nothing show up and my CPU spike to full load for gnome-control-center. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9zT4wqXDR8/
[13:54] <tomreyn> Austin__: either is possible. i assumed you wanted as much on the nvme as possible, and as little as possible on the usb
[13:55] <Austin__> tomreyn: that's true, so what is on the USB right now?
[13:55] <tomreyn> Austin__: what i'm assuming here is that grub will be able to find the nvme and load its configuration file and the kernel from it
[13:56] <Austin__> i dont think that will work. if it did, i would be able to just install 20.04 to the nvme and be done with it?
[13:56] <Austin__> im not making an assertion, just querying
[13:57] <tomreyn> Austin__: this may or may not work. when you tried booting directly off the nvme *in uefi mode* originally, did you get a "OS not found" like message from the firmware, or did you get a grub console?
[13:57] <Austin__> grub console
[13:57] <tomreyn> then it should work as it is now
[13:57] <Austin__> ok :)
[13:57] <Austin__> just so i know, whats on the USB right now?
[13:58] <Austin__> grub + kernel + initrd?
[13:58] <tomreyn> your efi system partition, including the 'grub shim'
[13:58] <tomreyn> the full grub and kernel and initrd are on the nvme
[13:59] <Austin__> ok
[13:59] <Austin__> thank you, should help me a lot when gooling all of this later
[14:00] <Austin__> shall i try a reboot?
[14:00] <tomreyn> jalt: :) did you see my note regarding xubuntu 16.04 being EOL?
[14:00] <tomreyn> Austin__: yes i think you're good to go, just make sure the mainboard firmware will boot in uefi more from the usb
[14:00] <nbusrone> I think i fix it by disable 3D a vb after looking at the gnome-control-center -v
[14:00] <Austin__> ok
[14:01] <jalt> yeah, i may be porting my iso builders to 20.04, but due to subiquity i am still considering my options
[14:02] <Austin__> tomreyn: i'm at a grub console
[14:03] <Austin__> tomreyn: i can see the usb stick, and see the efi subdir etc
[14:04] <Austin__> tomreyn: but that is the only disk that is returned when i "ls"
[14:09] <tomreyn> Austin__: :-/ sorry
[14:09] <Austin__> it's fine :) everything is fresh, so nothing to break :)
[14:09] <stevendale> sudo apt-get -f install
[14:10] <Austin__> it's my understanding that i need initrd including kernel on the usb to then mount the root partition from the nvme
[14:12] <tomreyn> Austin__: so you'll need to boot off the usb stick again, mount te nvme's root file system to /target, mount the virtual file systems, chroot /target /bin/bash, then create a new ~1 GB partition on the "boot" usb stick next to the ESP, create an ext4 file system on this new partition, mount that to the target's /boot
[14:13] <nbusrone> I feel ubuntu takes 10 second longer to load after i did a boot-repair , how to remove the 10 second ?
[14:14] <tomreyn> then update fstab to point to this /boot file system, and update-initramfs -k all -u, and update-grub
[14:14] <tomreyn> Austin__: ^ and i agree you seem to need to have at leats the initrd (and for ese of handling, also the kernel) on the "boot" usb
[14:14] <nbusrone> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TqCHzGgwWd/
[14:15] <Austin__> tomreyn: is what you just said in addition to everything we've done so far? (if i was starting again completely from scratch)
[14:16] <tomreyn> Austin__: you don't need to completely start from scratch, so what i just said was based on the situation you're in now.
[14:17] <Austin__> yea, understood, i'm trying to keep a mental note of what is happening so i can write this up for my own notes for future
[14:18] <Austin__> ok, i'll get cracking
[14:22] <nbusrone> Sorry , i fix it again by edit grub #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT="0" . I though the bug still continue.
[14:24] <jackhum> recently my firefox have started eating lot of cpu , it works good when i  use private window , anyone here have any knows about this issue ?
[14:25] <tomreyn> Austin__: good luck. my food is done here, so i'll be back in another hour roughly.
[14:25] <tomreyn> jackhum: see the "energy impact" column at about:performance
[14:26] <Austin__> tomreyn: thanks so much, drop me some paypal details and i'll buy you a beer
[14:27] <tomreyn> Austin__: hehe, thanks, but this wasn't good enough. ;-)
[14:27] <vlt> jackhum: (Some) extensions get disabled in private mode. Maybe look also there.
[14:27]  * jackhum tomreyn: active tab shows highest energy usage
[14:27] <Austin__> tomreyn: your call. thanks :)
[14:28] <jackhum> vlt: any tool which can help me to see which extensions use most cpu cycles
[14:30] <Austin__> tomreyn: should i mount the efi partition on the usb to /boot/efi before doing update initramfs and update grub?
[14:31] <tomreyn> Austin__: yes, just like the new /boot file system (and partition) you'll create on the usb stick goes to /boot first of all.
[14:31] <Austin__> so fstab will need a /boot mount and /boot/efi mount?
[14:31] <tomreyn> jackhum: there's https://profiler.firefox.com/ but this is getting pretty advanced and i'm not able to guide.
[14:32] <tomreyn> Austin__: correct.
[14:33] <tomreyn> Austin__: bbl, sorry...
[14:38] <Smashcat> Hi, anyone know if I can still get mysql 5 for Ubuntu 20.04? The version they have in apt is mysql 8.0 which is broken (doesn't even install correctly)
[14:41] <hansh> Smashcat, idk but i had no problem installing mariadb-server on 20.04 at least.. but how did mysql install fail?
[14:42] <Smashcat> hansh: Some kind og dpkg failure. It doesn't create the config dirs etc properly, so it can't be started or configured. I'll try maria :)
[14:44] <filifunky> hi all, I had a python script that connected to a mysql database through a module mysqldb.  I updated my ubuntu to the latest LTS 20.04 and the script no longer works.  I get an ImportError: No module named MySQLdb.  I try to install it through sudo apt-get and I get package 'python-mysqldb' has no installation candidate.  All answers I see online say that I should install python pip but everytime I try to do that it says that "unable to locate package
[14:44] <filifunky> python-pip"  Any ideas for what is wrong here?  Thanks!
[14:46] <Austin__> tomreyn: i had to re-do the apt install steps as update-initramfs exited immediately and made no changes to /boot
[14:46] <Austin__> boot/ now looks as i'd expect
[14:47] <Austin__> and grub-install
[14:48] <Austin__> now grub.cfg is searching for the 2nd part on the usb
[14:48] <Austin__> gunna reboot
[14:49] <Smashcat> hansh: Must be some problem when upgrading from Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04. Neither mysql or mariadb work. I'll have to install from source :)
[14:50] <Austin__> no dice
[15:02] <davido_> Can anyone explain what is going wrong with this snap refresh, and how I can fix it? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6gHQYwXbdv/
[15:02] <davido_> It happens on both my laptop and desktop system running 20.04.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> davido_, don't post your email addreses, not secure practice
[15:04] <hansh> Smashcat, what happens when you try to install it? can you pastebinit?
[15:07] <Smashcat> hansh: It installs fine, but after install it doesn't launch as it can't find config files or directories. I guess that Ubuntu adds those directories by default in the 20.04 install, but the installer for mariadb doesn't
[15:08] <hansh> Smashcat, can you show us the errors?
[15:08] <Smashcat> hansh: I'll just reinstall it to get the output again. I'll be installing from source code for this, as need to get it working
[15:09] <Austin__> tomreyn: i'm in. after a spelling mistake in fstab i think i'm sorted now
[15:11] <Smashcat> hansh: Here's the log with errors: https://pastebin.com/RWGfpKLB
[15:15] <hansh> Smashcat, what do you get from namei -l /var/lib/mysql/ib_buffer_pool
[15:15] <Smashcat> hansh: No such file or directory
[15:16] <hansh> as in "namei" wasn't installed or
[15:16] <ice9> is it safe to upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04?
[15:16] <Smashcat> root@ike:/etc/apparmor.d# namei -l /var/lib/mysql/ib_buffer_pool
[15:16] <Smashcat> f: /var/lib/mysql/ib_buffer_pool
[15:16] <Smashcat> drwxr-xr-x root  root  /
[15:16] <Smashcat> drwxr-xr-x root  root  var
[15:16] <Smashcat> drwxr-xr-x root  root  lib
[15:16] <Smashcat> drwx------ mysql mysql mysql
[15:17] <Smashcat> ice9: I did that today - a few problems. Mostly in my case, mysql and mariadb do not install or start
[15:18] <Smashcat> hansh: Not sure if you saw the paste there - I have namei installed. The file named "ib_buffer_pool" was not found
[15:18] <hansh> Smashcat, i saw.. im guessing 50%, of that, can you PM it? or pastebinit
[15:20] <Smashcat> hansh: https://pastebin.com/41xRstbd
[15:24] <Smashcat> hansh: I should also mention it also couldn't find /etc/mysql/conf.d until I symlinked that to /etc/mysql/mariadb.conf.d (which it DID create during install)
[15:24] <hansh> Smashcat, with a bit of luck, apt purge "*mysql*";  apt purge "*mariadb*"; rm -rfv /var/lib/mysql /etc/mysql /etc/default/mysql /usr/share/mysql /usr/share/mysql-common;     and *finally*:  apt install mariadb-server;
[15:25] <hansh> errr dont do that if you actually have some databases you need from an old broken installation though
[15:26] <Smashcat> hansh: The dbs are safe - they're not in the standard location. I usually configure the new datadir after installing
[15:29] <Smashcat> hansh: Heh, no it's even worse than before https://pastebin.com/1DF2iSfh - seems like the installer expects mysql to already have created all the directories it needs.
[15:30] <Smashcat> I think the package maintainer just hasn't tested it at all on a new system.
[15:30] <hansh> Smashcat, ups, yeah you're running apt from a folder that no longer exist, i don't think apt likes that
[15:30] <hansh> cd out of there
[15:31] <hansh> cd /
[15:31] <hansh> or something
[15:32] <hansh> and.. check it
[15:32] <Smashcat> hansh: Yes, I removed the dirs again, purged it, reinstalled, and same error as before.
[15:32] <hansh> ouch
[15:33] <hansh> still the "/var/lib/mysql/ib_buffer_pool doesn't exist" error?
[15:33] <Smashcat> Yep, it can't find any of its config files
[15:33] <hansh> or do you mean still the "sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory" error?
[15:33] <hansh> hmm ok.. and i'm stumped
[15:34] <Smashcat> First error. The output from /var/log/mysql/errors is the same as before
[15:35] <Smashcat> I've got a Windows server that can run mysql for now, and the Linux server can connect to it. In the meantime I'll build from source on the linux server, as the packages are clearly broken :)
[15:37] <barnex> lotuspsychje: re jumping to 20.04 - yeah, that was my plan all along and I think I'll try that, was going to do anwyay. Thanks for all the help
[15:41] <doublem> Hi there, I installed 20.04 LTS with LVM2 + LUKS and was thrown into initramfs busybox, any idea what is missing?
[15:50] <activedecay> how would I got about writing a clipboard manager program from scratch? i sort of remember there being a "dbus" thing that other clipboard managers listen to.
[15:51] <activedecay> the shell i'm using is gnome, and gtk_clipboard_wait_for_text seems like a good starting point
[15:52] <akem> You can script it, using xclip IIRC.
[15:53] <activedecay> i'm looking for a c library call that, when i run my program as a daemon, gives me the last thing copied to the clipboard
[15:54] <akem> Check xclip source code then.
[15:54] <akem> It's a command line interface to the clipboard.
[15:55] <activedecay> will do
[16:07] <TheFu> Is there a way to disable the directory confinement for snaps? The default confinement is breaking our workflow.
[16:14] <lestac> hello, today i go to install linux at my desktop device, for terms of security and optimal work, at present is best ubuntu, lm, or another distribution? thanks!
[16:14] <ogra> TheFu, nope ... the packager can extend it through various interfaces though
[16:15] <ogra> TheFu, so best is to ask the packager of the software you use to extend file access capabilities if there is anything that breaks the app for you
[16:26] <Smashcat> Ah cool, found a spare SSD, I can install 16.04 on it, to get the server up and running again after mistakenly upgrading to 20.04 :)
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> lestac: we are in the ubuntu support channel, we advice ubuntu :p
[16:48] <dreamon> having issue playing audio. pavucontrol only device is dummy,no sound. I found out, aplay wavefile as root is playing audio, well. as normal user no audio is there. But no error. (maybe helpful ..)
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: please if you ask a question provide a bit more details like ubuntu version and kernel so volunteers can debug a better way
[16:51] <dreamon> xubuntu 20.04, Linux mydreamon 5.4.0-31-generic,Audio Conexant CX8070
[16:51] <Intelo> Which version of vim does ubuntu 20.x LTS has?
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> thank you dreamon, can you check if your soundcards driver is loaded please, sudo lshw -C sound
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> !info vim | Intelo
[16:52] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J32p2gmBsY/
[16:53] <dreamon> I use a Thinkpad E15
[16:53] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, which ubuntu version/
[16:53] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, how can i get vim 8.2?
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: lets test creating a second user on your system and check if sound works there?
[16:55] <Intelo> oh its focal
[16:56] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, how can i get vim 8.2?
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: sudo snap install vim-editor
[16:58] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, Ok start login.. one moment
[16:58] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, would this be better or snap one ? sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jonathonf/vim
[16:58] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, if I use either, do I have to uninstall old vim? or will my old settings/packages fade away?
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: apt and snap dirs are not mixed, you can use both independent from each other
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: we dont support and advice external ppa's, adviced to stick with the apt/snap repos
[17:01] <Intelo> lotuspsychje,  so after installing vim from snap, if I type vim, which one will launch? also, in my home/me/.vimrc , which one will it read to?
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: i did not test the vim snap myself, i suspect its gonna be in the /snap dir
[17:03] <Intelo> hm
[17:03] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, made a testuser reboot, logged in. Only dummy device in pavucontrol
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: ok tnx for testing that, so this issue is systemwide
[17:04] <nova> how can someone get vim 8.2 on ubuntu without compiling source? I dunno if they upgraded from 18.04LTS or not yet
[17:05] <nova> I guessed vim-gtk would be 8.2, but it's not
[17:05] <Intelo> nova, I already asked that :)
[17:05] <nova> greetings.
[17:05] <Intelo> !info vim | nova
[17:05] <Intelo> lotuspsychje> Intelo: sudo snap install vim-editor
[17:06] <dreamon> Yesterday I did somethin like this (Im not sure anymore) sudo alsa force-reload → and sound was there.. but today no luck anymore
[17:06] <Intelo> lotuspsychje> Intelo: we dont support and advice external ppa's, adviced to stick with the apt/snap repos
[17:06] <Intelo> !info vim-gtk
[17:06] <nova> rust in pupperoni ubuntu stoopid bye have a great time. cool bot name, though.
[17:07] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, I already tried this → https://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[17:08] <Intelo> so after installing vim from snap, if I type vim, which one will launch? also, in my home/me/.vimrc , which one will it read to?
[17:08] <Intelo> Anyone else can give a clue ^?
[17:10] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, snap "vim-editor" is not available on stable but is available to install on the following
[17:10] <Intelo>        channels:
[17:10] <Intelo>        beta       snap install --beta vim-editor
[17:10] <Intelo>        edge       snap install --edge vim-editor
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: choose one?
[17:13] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, ya which has which version? How to check
[17:13] <oerheks> why not uninstall the other vim?
[17:14] <oerheks> or which vim would give some info
[17:14] <Intelo> oerheks, sounds fair. but how can I get info about the above 2
[17:14] <Intelo> oerheks, why not go with sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jonathonf/vim
[17:14] <Intelo> \
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: i already said why
[17:15] <Intelo> lotuspsychje, ya, maybe I was curious on more details
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: you can try one of these https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/06/fix-no-sound-dummy-output-issue-in.html
[17:16] <Intelo> ok, uninstalling old vim and installing beta
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: beta is 8.2.788
[17:16] <Intelo> how can I get info about the above 2
[17:17] <Intelo> which version of snap has what
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: snap info vim-editor
[17:18] <Intelo> thanks!
[17:19] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, OK
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: did you test your audio card on a liveusb as a test?
[17:20] <Intelo> am.. .I removed vim with apt purge vim but I still get old vim when I type 'vim'
[17:22] <Intelo> Is there something wrong?
[17:24] <Intelo> When I install a package with snap. E.g vim. Where do I put .vimrc?
[17:24] <TheFu> ogra, that's too bad.  We have TB of NFS storage and cannot change where it mounts.
[17:27] <ogra> TheFu, well, prehaps someone on https://forum.snapcraft.io has other ideas ... i'd start a discussion over there
[17:27] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, We are getting closer! I made "options snd-hda-intel model=generic" on alsa-base.conf and reboot → still dummy output only. so made → sudo alsa force-reload → sound is back!!!
[17:28] <ogra> you could surely use bind mounts if you just need to point there from somewhere else
[17:28] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, but after reboot its gone, again.
[17:28] <TheFu> bind mounts didn't work.
[17:28] <dreamon> Now I make → sudo alsa force-reload → after reboot it sound is good
[17:28] <ogra> well, better ask on the forum then
[17:28] <TheFu> Nor did symbolic links
[17:29] <ogra> yeah, links are known to not work
[17:29] <ogra> bind mounts should though
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: did your sound work on a liveusb 20.04?
[17:30] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, I think so.. I tried one time.
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: do you recall when things got scrambled up?
[17:31] <cryptopsy> how can i pass a PS1 to chroot so tht the chroot has a different PS1 than the one in the .bashrc it loads?
[17:33] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, sorry englisch is not my main language. what does "scrambled up" mean?
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: when your sound was not working anymore
[17:34] <cryptopsy> be nice
[17:34] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, OK.. till now I have to make this "sudo alsa force-reload" to do each boot..
[17:36] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, Thank you very much for your Help
[17:36]  * Intelo cannot trace .vimrc location for snap based vim
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> Intelo: did you check the /snap dir?
[17:41] <Intelo> yes
[17:44] <TheFu> ogra, these are NFS mounts.  cannot open path of the current working directory: Permission denied
[17:45] <TheFu> did a bind mount under the HOME and still got the permission denied.
[17:46] <ogra> well, the guys knowing about the underlying filesystem issues are on the forum,  i know technically bind mounts work for nearly everything but probably you need some special setup if the backend is NFS, not sure
[17:58] <TheFu> ogra, thanks.  My searches seem to say that NFS isn't supported by snaps due to the way the constraints are setup that doesn't allow NFS. Seems it is called an upstream issue.  Which is why disabling the constraints or repackaging appears to be the only possible answer.
[18:01] <ogra> TheFu, NFS is definitely not supported for homedirs and i doubt you'd be ableto put the snaps themselves onto an NFS share, but if accessing data on NFS doesnt work this is likely a bug (again. ask the forum, i cant really tell (i havent touched NFS in a decade personally)
[18:06] <akik> ogra: "NFS is definitely not supported for homedirs" you mean with ubuntu?
[18:17] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, I found the problem. but dont unterstand how to fix it.
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: whats happening
[18:18] <dreamon> There is a process → timidity /usr/bin/timidity -Os -iAD → after killing it sound is back.
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: that sounds a lot of a bug i found about that
[18:19] <dreamon> i saw "sudo alsa force-reload" is killing some process IDs and looked before and killed it manually.. Sounds back
[18:19] <TheFu> akik, No, we are talking about snaps.  Ubuntu supports NFS for HOME.
[18:20] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, here I found someone with same issue.. → https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=316720&start=20
[18:20] <TheFu> ogra, I've moved on to the "repackaging" effort.  It is working so far. Love the flexibility of Unix-like systems!
[18:21] <dreamon> what is this process /usr/bin/timidity for?
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: bug #1793640
[18:26] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, cool, thanks I remove timidity ;)
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: would have been much easier, if you mentioned timidity at your start question..
[18:28] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, I didnt knew about this.. after you info i searched for people that have to start alsa after each reboot.. so found this information
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: your sound got broken after installing timidity?
[18:32] <dreamon> no.. I after changing hardware .. bought a thinkpad and copied hdds
[18:33] <TheFu> Well, the chromium-browser snap doesn't work with a user's HOME on NFS. But ....
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> dreamon: ah, you cloned an existing ubuntu install with timidity installed already on a new HD in another system?
[18:33] <TheFu> but running /snap/chromium/current/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chrome directly, does work.
[18:34] <TheFu> For a browser, I really want the constraints for security.  Don't think a video editor has the same risks, however.
[18:35] <dreamon> lotuspsychje, yes. I must tell you. I do this since years ( about 8years ). everybody is telling me not to upgrade, but after a few days of hard work, it runs fine
[18:35] <dreamon> you brought my sound back. Im happy.. ;)
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> enjoy dreamon
[18:35] <jpmh> I like to have my PS1 variable set the color but find that when I do, and lines in bash are long the set -o vi (use vi style edit) gets confused as to where the cursor is.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[18:40] <dreamon> Ok removing timidity works!! sound after reboot.
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> !yay | dreamon
[18:42] <dreamon> I have one more thing. on xubuntu i can see cpu speed. it shows 4.48GHz .. but my cpu is only 1.8GHz fast. maybe I can fix it anyhow?
[18:42] <buru> Hi I recently installed Ubuntu server, and I'm having a problem at boot where the screen is completely black (I think this is where grub menu should be presented)
[18:43] <buru> Tried changing the grub config from hidden to menu, and giving it a little more time but there's still no menu after reset.
[18:44] <tripelb> Makdaame startup disk won't see my manjaro~~.iso
[18:45] <tripelb> In 20.04  Make startup disk won't see my manjaro~~.iso
[18:47] <filifunky> hi all, I had a python script that connected to a mysql database through a module mysqldb.  I updated my ubuntu to the latest LTS 20.04 and the script no longer works.  I get an ImportError: No module named MySQLdb.  I try to install it through sudo apt-get and I get package 'python-mysqldb' has no installation candidate.  All answers I see online say that I should install python pip but everytime I try to do that it says that "unable to locate package
[18:47] <filifunky> python-pip"  Any ideas for what is wrong here?  Thanks!
[19:00] <mattfly> how to i reduce gama or do any color correction on ubuntu 20.04?
[19:21] <tricky> hey guys can anyone help me with virt-manager and spice?
[19:22] <frad> why does the locate command only work for a local ssd and not for external ssds?
[19:22] <frad> I cd'ed to the external ssd and locate only finds results in the internal drive
[19:23] <Sbur3> HI. Anyone wanna walk me through troubleshooting video problems?
[19:24] <Intelo> !info browsh
[19:24] <Intelo> seriously?
[19:25] <Sbur3> Looks like someone unplugging and replugging the monitor on a relatively but not totally regular basis
[19:26] <Sbur3> It feels deliberate
[19:28] <giaco> is it possible to switch workspace using mouse wheel + key combination? Problem is that I like fullscreen terminal in workspace, and this blocks access to application bar on the left, so standard scolling using lower left spot is not working
[19:28] <giaco> I'm using ctrl+alt+up/down now
[19:31] <tricky> my problem is with virt-manager i run a linux mint vm and connect to it with remote-viewer, i saw on forums it can do multiple display to the vm but mine only shows one
[19:34] <gulo> I had posted this on the Ubuntu forums a couple of days ago as well, but I have a problem where some applications are not being drawn properly in my fluxbox GUI on 20.04. One example is OBS when I open it, it mirrors all of the bottom controls more than once depending on the size of the window. I have this problem in a CAD application that I use as well. I don't even know what to Google for to troubleshoot. How would I go about
[19:34] <gulo> troubleshooting this?
[19:36] <Smashcat> This upgrade from 16.04 -> 18.04 -> 20.04 has fucked my system so badly I'm going to use Docker for all my services :)
[20:08] <yuta> Hi, When I did apt update, There are some updates.but autoupdates shows nothing.Is this usual habite?
[20:27] <GR1M0R4CL3> you do apt update
[20:27] <GR1M0R4CL3> then followed with apt upgrade
[20:27] <GR1M0R4CL3> update grabs info about what is available. but doesnt do updates itself
[20:27] <GR1M0R4CL3> after using apt update it will tell you if you have upgrades available, and what command to type to see them
[20:31] <tomreyn> Austin__: sorry for not responding earlier - i had to leave there. i'm glad you made it, though! :)
[20:32] <yuta> GR1M0R4CL3, I mean auto updates GUI shows nothing.
[20:33] <mesaboogie> yuta: it will pick it up soon enough
[20:33] <mesaboogie> hit refresh if you are impatient
[20:35] <mesaboogie> yuta: default is every 10 minutes for the update manager to check for updates
[20:36] <mesaboogie> yuta: after the 10 mintues first, then it goes to every 2 hours so yeah, soetimes if you check with apt it could be the update manager has not picked it up yet. patience.
[20:38] <mesaboogie> yuta: and the update manager only gets refreshed when the update manager is closed ( unless you manually hit refresh, of course) so that is the daily update manager tips.
[20:48] <ACHLO> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGtN_xwRZcg
[20:53] <yuta> mesaboogie, Thanks :)
[20:53] <yuta> I will wait.
[21:00] <Mmike> So, I managed to start the upgrade - I just needed to plant modified meta-file for new releases, which doesn't have artful disabled. It pulls stuff from old-releases.ubuntu.com, and installs artfull packages.
[21:00] <Mmike> When this is done I'll revert /etc/update-manager/meta-release file to original version and upgrade to bionic
[21:00] <Mmike> in case anyone ever runs into this
[21:01] <Mmike> I'd update the wiki, but I'm no longer with Canonical so I don't have the access, let me know if you want me to write the sumup to just paste into the wiki.
[21:04] <kristian_on_linu> cheers
[21:04] <yuta> Mmike, I should learn more thanks :)
[21:05] <mesaboogie> yuta: turns out I though I was talking in #linuxmint so I described the wrong info for you. turns out ubuntu's software updater only checks for updates "Daily" by default.
[21:05] <mesaboogie> yuta: this can be changed in prefs.
[21:05] <Mmike> yuta, not sure if you had the context , just ralized I might be typing into wrong channel :) so, the issue was upgrading from zesty to most recent LTS, at least
[21:06] <yuta> mesaboogie, ok Thanks :)
[21:06] <mesaboogie> Mmike: I just did the same thing.
[21:08] <mesaboogie> yuta: plus the software updater checks for updates as soon as you run it.
[21:28] <iowaneasfan> hello
[21:34] <wholesum> Good sunday :)
[21:34] <wholesum> BASH question: inside an LXC container, i want to redirect script output to a custom device (/dev/myscript) so that /dev/myscript can be read from the host. Is this possible?
[21:41] <cknoettg> Ubuntu Server 18.04 running in Azure - simple Minecraft server. I have the minecraft server running in a separate screen using the screen command. When I run "top" - I see that java is running, but I can't confirm that this is definitely the minecraft server running. Does top display running services from a different screen? Also, is there a way to
[21:41] <cknoettg> run top from inside the screen itself? When I connect to that screen, it takes me to the running server log, not a prompt where I can issue commands.
[21:46] <GR1M0R4CL3> sorry was busy
[21:46] <GR1M0R4CL3> well typing "sudo apt update" will immediatly show updates
[21:47] <yuta> mesaboogie, Thanks , I am ubuntu newbie , I will learn :)
[21:48] <cknoettg> Whenever I ask server questions, I feel like the guy who posts in forums "I am a new sysadmin, and I am just stuck on one thing: I need you to tell me the exact DNS settings to enter for my private server." :-)
[21:51] <EriC^^> cknoettg: ctrl+a then 'c' creates a new session
[21:51] <EriC^^> cknoettg: ctrl+a n/p switches between them
[21:54] <cknoettg> Whenever I connect to the existing screen, it does bring me to the bash prompt - it just brings me to the server output...Sometimes the simple things escape me. I suppose that since it is bringing me to the server logs, then ipso facto, it must be running. Wow, I've had a long day :-)
[21:54] <cknoettg> *doesn't
[21:56] <cknoettg> I haven't read it in many moons, but the newest edition of the Linux and Unix System Administration Handbook is on its way in the mail. Looking forward to dusting off the cobwebs.
[21:56] <CoDeAmRo> hey guys
[21:56] <CoDeAmRo> i am new here can anyone help me
[21:57] <GR1M0R4CL3> ask and people shall try
[21:58] <CoDeAmRo> i need help with hexchat and ubuntu os
[22:01] <gulo> CoDeAmRo, Depends, what is your actual question?
[22:01] <CoDeAmRo> i am using ubuntu for 11 years and i have 7 laptops and one of my laptops got intel hd vga card how to get the driver for 18.4 ... is it mesa or something else
[22:03] <CoDeAmRo> can i use nvidia even if its not supported
[22:05] <gulo> CoDeAmRo, nvidia is supported on Ubuntu.
[22:05] <gulo> I am running an nvidia 1080 TI right now.
[22:05] <CoDeAmRo> can you help me with the best driver for intel integrated
[22:06] <CoDeAmRo> the laptop that i use dont have nvidia inside just intel hd
[22:07] <gulo> CoDeAmRo, Have you ever used ubuntu-drivers-common before?
[22:07] <CoDeAmRo> yes but it says no drivers
[22:08] <gulo> ubuntu-drivers devices comes back with no driver recommendations?
[22:09] <CoDeAmRo> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall .... you mean that
[22:09] <Bashing-om> CoDeAmRo: Intel (and AMD) graphic's drivers are included in the kerenl. What is your present issue with the driver ?
[22:09] <gulo> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[22:10] <gulo> That will give you recommendations. I'm going AFK for a bit, I'll be back to help if someone else hasn't helped by then.
[22:11] <CoDeAmRo> thanks alot
[22:11] <CoDeAmRo> so mesa drivers is not needed ?
[22:12] <oerheks> intel is standard supported in the kernel, for years now
[22:13] <oerheks> lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA -A 12 # should give i915 ?
[22:13] <Bashing-om> CoDeAmRo: For Intel the kernel provides all .
[22:13] <CoDeAmRo> yes i have lagging issue when i play games like ps1 emulator
[22:13] <oerheks> depending what gen intel, it is not a racemonster.
[22:14] <CoDeAmRo> my laptop is 6th gen 2016
[22:14] <oerheks> give intel as much as possible shared mem in the bios.
[22:14] <oerheks> and be happy
[22:15] <CoDeAmRo> how to do it
[22:16] <oerheks> boot, press the special key to get into the bios, and read the manual?
[22:17] <oerheks> too many biosses, to know them all. and check for a bios update, for a start
[22:19] <OERIAS> Hi, I have an issue with sound on the budgie desktop
[22:19] <OERIAS> When I plug in a headset or headphones it does not play sound to the said headphones
[22:19] <OERIAS> I have to go to go to the sound settings to and change microphone to headset
[22:19] <OERIAS> is there a way for the system to automatically set the sound output to the headset/headphones?
[22:20] <catbeard> hi all
[22:20] <catbeard> are there any binary package updates RE: cve-2020-12662 for bionic
[22:22] <oerheks> catbeard, i see none, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unbound
[22:23] <cryptopsy> post your ubuntu dsktop, here's mine: https://i.imgur.com/lJdj6N7.png
[22:24] <oerheks> cryptopsy,
[22:24] <oerheks> that is kinda offtopic here, post this on the forum, more readers and responce
[22:26] <cryptopsy> what can i do with rtx?
[22:26] <catbeard> can anyone here bother the maintainer contact for that project to update it please?
[22:26] <oerheks> catbeard, one can file a SRU
[22:26] <oerheks> !sru
[22:27] <oerheks> i think only security fixes make it to LTS versions like bionic
[22:28] <catbeard> it would most certainly be a security fix
[22:28] <oerheks> oke, then you would have a valid argument :-)
[22:49] <gulo> I had posted this on the Ubuntu forums a couple of days ago as well, but I have a problem where some applications are not being drawn properly in my fluxbox GUI on 20.04. One example is OBS when I open it, it mirrors all of the bottom controls more than once depending on the size of the window. I have this problem in a CAD application that I use as well. How would I go about troubleshooting this?
[22:50] <catbeard> oerheks: would one be able to file on on my behalf
[22:51] <catbeard> and let me know a link to get updates if any
[22:55] <cronolio> hello, what the way for ubuntu 18.04 to use iptables as nftables transparently?
[22:55] <CoDeAmRo> use ip tool
[22:56] <oerheks> catbeard, no, please file the sru yourself?
[22:57] <catbeard> not at all familiar with the process for filling one, nor the particulars of what i'd file it under, i could source compile but boss won't let me :|
[22:57] <oerheks> cronolio, 2 different frameworks? interesting, tell us more why?
[22:58] <cronolio> oerheks: iptables deprecated ?
[23:00] <oerheks> nftables is default in debian now. https://wiki.debian.org/nftables
[23:01] <cronolio> but docker still use iptables. so i need to get same thing in ubuntu 18.04 like in debian buster is done
[23:02] <oerheks> ubuntu too, ufw framework that uses iptables
[23:02] <oerheks> so, i wonder why you want 2 frameworks
[23:03] <cronolio> i don't need 2 framework. i want to call iptables but use nftables
[23:06] <cronolio> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man8/iptables-nft.8.html looks like it is available in 20 lts
[23:35] <eelstrebor> why doesn't scp have a update switch rather than over-writing everything everytime? trying to get rsync to work is a real pain also.
[23:36] <catbeard> rsync > scp
[23:36] <catbeard> man rsync # you gotta tell it exactly with flags what you want it to do, lots of backup systems are based off of rsync flags
[23:39] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: what trouble are you having with rsync?
[23:45] <westor> after i create a new user and trying to install something i get :: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables :: any idea why that is happening? maybe the new user doesn't have the required access? (ubuntu 20.04)
[23:47] <gulo> westor, What command are you running? And yes, that sounds like they don't have permissions to create the executable.
[23:47] <westor> i used "adduser name"
[23:48] <eelstrebor> leftyfb, it complains that port 22 isn't open even though i gave it an alternate port for ssh
[23:48] <westor> how can i give the new user full permissions ?
[23:49] <gulo> Try using sudo adduser name
[23:49] <westor> i was already logged in as 'root' when i executed
[23:49] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: how are you specifying the port? Also, it might be easier to just specific a host in your ~/.ssh/config
[23:52] <gulo> westor, if you cat /etc/passwd is your new user in there?
[23:52] <westor> newuser:x:1000:1000:,,,:/home/newuser:/bin/bash
[23:53] <gulo> Okay so it created the user. I wonder if you killed binutils. Try doing sudo apt-get install --reinstall binutils
[23:54] <westor> ok done let me try again
[23:54] <westor> same error again
[23:58] <westor> i don't know what else to do now
[23:59] <gulo> It looks like you are missing some packages. From what I am googling, you can try installing build-essentials