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EickmeyerOvenWerks: I did something for you (and me): switched the default menu to something like Xfce's *old* default, which I think is the menu you prefer. I believe the menu is called "Kicker".01:56
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EickmeyerOvenWerks: Scratch that, it didn't work. It's not as default-configurable as Kickoff.04:19
OvenWerksEickmeyer: the default plasma menu is pretty close to whisker, which a lot of people has liked05:35
OvenWerksthough the win95 style menu does provide a search box too05:36
OvenWerksI think it would have to be set as part of the panel05:50
OvenWerksit says kicker is the panel... ok05:51
OvenWerksit may be the applications launcher that needs to be configured.05:57
OvenWerksthe problem is... I don't seem to be able to find either the kicker/panel/whatever or application launcher config in my home directory.. so no hint where to look in the system05:58
OvenWerksthere is no nice plasma directory in /etc/xdg/ like xfce has05:59
EickmeyerOvenWerks: Yeah, the thing is that Plasma uses a different configuration for the way its menus are configured specifically while still honoring XDG for the menus themselves. Either way, it's not a huge issue, it was just an experiment. Easy commit to revert.14:40
OvenWerksEickmeyer: Ardour 6.0 is official.16:52
Eickmeyer\o/17:01
EickmeyerNow we just wait for Debian... but I might come up with a plan B if Feature Freeze starts creeping up.17:02
OvenWerksEickmeyer: RWT headphones, I was going to offer options on plugin in/out. switch, mute speakers only (leave headphone levels up), nothing. 17:18
OvenWerksEickmeyer: I am trying to think what the user "expects". In the case where PCH is not even in use right now.17:19
OvenWerksfor example.17:19
* OvenWerks is thinking out loud17:23
OvenWerksIf someone plugs in phones, they expect to hear audio in them. And I think they expect audio from the speakers to vanish too.18:42
EickmeyerOvenWerks: Yeah, I think you've mentioned this before.18:50
OvenWerksyeah, So... I think I will leave the phones level alone and the speaker level alone but use the mutes to switch.19:14
OvenWerksThat way the levels will remain. However, if the phones level is -inf, then I think we need to set it to -10 on plug.19:17

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