/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/05/25/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

callmepkgood morning01:08
dufluMorning callmepk 01:27
callmepkmorning duflu 01:27
pieqhi duflu , callmepk !02:35
dufluHey pieq 02:35
callmepkhi pieq 02:54
pieqSo my desktop is still on 18.04. /home is on a different partition from /. What are the odds that I completely destroy everything if I install 20.04 and just replace / ? :D02:55
pieq(if I remember correctly, there is a "format" checkbox that is unticked by default, so if I point /home to my current home partition and leave this checkbox unticked, I should get all my files and configs back after the install, right?)02:56
RAOFpieq: You should keep your *user* configs and files (although backups are recommended, always!), but is there any particular reason not to just use `do-release-upgrade`? (You'll need to pass an option to make it consider 18.04→20.04 before we release 20.04.1)03:03
pieqRAOF, good question. A vague feeling of "it's cleaner this way". Also, last time I tried this (16.04 → 18.04), the laptop I tried it on miserably failed (a bad graphics driver issue I guess, I had no more X.org so it was very hard to recover)03:05
pieqRAOF, When is 20.04.1 due? Beginning of August?03:05
RAOFhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule says “End of July”03:08
pieqRAOF, OK. I might just try the do-release-upgrade and see, then. It's a desktop with an AMD GPU and nothing too fancy (no wireless, no BT, ...), it shouldn't be too bad in terms of support03:09
RAOFMy understanding is that `do-release-upgrade` is expected to *work* now, but we let the release see the first round of SRUs and soak for a bit.03:10
RAOFIf you have any problems, please file bugs 😀03:10
pieqRAOF, I will, don't worry (I'm a QA engineer, filing bug is my passion! :D )03:11
pieqfiling bug*s*03:11
pieqRAOF, I found some pulseaudio issues when upgrading another laptop from 19.10 to 20.04, but yeah, it was on a laptop, I don't expect to see this kind of issues on a desktop (but you never know! :))03:12
pieqRAOF, anyway, thanks for your answers!03:12
didrocksgood morning06:14
dufluHi didrocks 06:17
didrockshey duflu 06:18
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:41
oSoMoNhappy Monday!06:41
dufluHi oSoMoN. Happy Monday06:55
oSoMoNhey duflu, how are you?06:55
dufluoSoMoN, going well. You?06:58
oSoMoNduflu, yeah, I'm good and very relaxed after a 4 day week-end07:14
didrockssalut oSoMoN !07:23
jibelhi all07:29
didrockssalut jibel 07:30
jibelsalut didrocks, ça va bien?07:31
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, jibel 07:33
didrocksjibel: ça va, et toi ?07:34
jibeldidrocks, bien, toujours l'été ici, on en profite d'autant plus que les touristes ne sont pas là07:35
jibelnatation et rando pour rattrapper le retard dû au confinement07:35
didrockscertes :)07:35
dufluHi jibel 08:16
jibelgood afternoon duflu 08:16
Saviqdidrocks, jibel: hey folks, one thing just came to mind re: zsys - think it'd be possible to annotate the snapshots with what caused them? like what `apt` command was being run, stuff like that?14:16
didrocksSaviq: it’s an idea we had but we didn’t capture that on a bug report, mind doing so? (I’m afraid on a stable release that most of them will be "do-release-upgrade" and won’t really help though)14:20
juliankdidrocks: I just setup a fully encrypted zfs laptop by hacking around the zsys ubiquity script, that was easy. need to play around with it more, but looking good14:25
juliankdidrocks: The updating grub menu at apt install end is a bit slow14:25
juliankThe installer experience was odd - it first formatted sda2 as / (ext4), and created a swapfile in it, before reformatting it as swap (sda3 was bpool, sda4 rpool)14:26
juliankJust to give you my impressions :)14:26
juliank(write speed seems to be about 60 MB/s in encrypted rpool, vs 100 MB/s in the unencrypted bpool; but they also have different recordsize [I increased recordsize to 512K in rpool])14:27
didrocksjuliank: we need to test recordsize impact. The installer experience is unfortunately hackish, but normal users won’t see the trick ext4 then ZFS14:28
jibeljuliank, we couldn't bypass partman, so we let it do it's thing then overwrite with our layout. That's weird indeed but didn't find a better way.14:28
jibelits*14:28
didrockswhich is unfortunate due to how ubiquity does with partman14:29
juliankack14:29
didrocksjuliank: which encryption did you use?14:29
juliankdidrocks: aes-256-gcm14:29
didrocksack, the next default one :)14:29
juliankyeah14:29
didrocksjust checking you didn’t shoot in your feet :)14:29
Saviqdidrocks: no worries, will log :)14:50
didrocksthx!14:51
=== ijohnson is now known as ijohnson|lunch
=== ijohnson|lunch is now known as ijohnson
=== Mike[m]7 is now known as mikeinspace

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!