| gulo | Installing build-essential | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| westor | apt install build-essentials ? | 00:00 |
| gulo | apt install build-essential | 00:01 |
| westor | ok that fixed the issue, thanks, an other issue is that OpenSSL is installed on the system but the new user cannot install the program because it says i need to install openssl | 00:02 |
| gulo | What command are you running for the OpenSSL? | 00:03 |
| westor | i checking via : openssl version | 00:03 |
| westor | it has 1.1.1f | 00:03 |
| gulo | Does sudo openssl version work? | 00:04 |
| gulo | You can do which openssl to find the path, and then ls -alh of that path to determine if that user has permissions. | 00:05 |
| westor | which openssl => /usr/bin/openssl | 00:06 |
| westor | on the new user | 00:06 |
| gulo | My openssl is in /usr/bin and has 751 for the permissions. | 00:06 |
| westor | so now i use: ls -alh /usr/bin/openssl ? | 00:06 |
| gulo | ls -alh /usr/bin/openssl | 00:06 |
| gulo | Yes | 00:06 |
| westor | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 736K Apr 20 13:53 /usr/bin/openssl | 00:07 |
| gulo | That's correct. | 00:08 |
| gulo | What happens in you just do /usr/bin/openssl version | 00:08 |
| westor | OpenSSL 1.1.1f 31 Mar 2020 | 00:08 |
| gulo | echo $PATH | 00:09 |
| westor | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games | 00:09 |
| gulo | I haven't seen that problem before, your path is correct, and you're able to run it using your full path to the executable, and it works with sudo, and the permissions look correct. I'm not sure on that one. | 00:11 |
| gulo | Someone else may be able to help you though. | 00:11 |
| westor | appreciated mate :) thanks for your time | 00:11 |
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| westor | that's the error i got from new user when i try to install the program https://pastebin.com/477FkpVj | 00:13 |
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| gulo | But it works when you run /usr/bin/openssl | 00:15 |
| westor | that's their git https://github.com/unrealircd/unrealircd/blob/unreal50/Config | 00:16 |
| nick__38 | Hi all, what timezone does cron follow in ubuntu 20.04. I have a cron job that should run at 6.25 but it is running at 16.25. I confirmed with date command, time shown is in AEST but cron runs on UTC | 00:24 |
| nick__38 | Also ssh logs are based on UTC | 00:25 |
| gulo | I had posted this on the Ubuntu forums a couple of days ago as well, but I have a problem where some applications are not being drawn properly in my fluxbox GUI on 20.04. One example is OBS when I open it, it mirrors all of the bottom controls more than once depending on the size of the window. I have this problem in a CAD application that I use as well. How would I go about troubleshooting this? | 00:29 |
| analogical | what command do I use to format a drive from the terminal? | 01:09 |
| gulo | mkfs | 01:10 |
| gulo | So something like mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx4 | 01:11 |
| oerheks | find the device name first | 01:12 |
| analogical | thanks | 01:12 |
| oerheks | shred -v /dev/sdX | 01:13 |
| oerheks | grinn | 01:13 |
| gulo | lol | 01:14 |
| analogical | oh by the way I use Manjaro :D | 01:16 |
| gulo | Blasphemy? | 01:19 |
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| bigfluff | I've tried and been very happy with Manjaro, but as a long-time LTS user it's hard for me to see switching to rolling-release | 01:22 |
| analogical | gulo, heresy would be more precise | 01:24 |
| gulo | analogical, thanks for the clarification :) | 01:24 |
| analogical | bigfluff, I must say that Manjaros somewhat delayed rolling (not bleeding edge like Arch) is part of what appeals to me about it. I've found it to be very stable and it also uses less system resources than Ubuntu which is particularily nice on a laptop. | 01:28 |
| bigfluff | analogical: I'm looking at getting a second machine in the not-too-distant future, Manjaro is along the lines of what I have been thinking | 01:30 |
| bigfluff | analogical: is there a Manjaro room here on FN? I'd love to discuss further but would of course prefer to remain on-topic for the channel. | 01:31 |
| Bashing-om | 1alis | bigfluff | 01:33 |
| Bashing-om | !alis | bigfluff | 01:33 |
| ubottu | bigfluff: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" | 01:33 |
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| pinpenguin2 | I downloaded the ubuntu server and set it up - forgot the password to login. Is there a way to reset it? | 02:09 |
| bigfluff | Did you set up an additional user with sudo access? | 02:11 |
| pinpenguin2 | No - there is only one user on it. | 02:12 |
| bigfluff | https://itsfoss.com/how-to-hack-ubuntu-password/ | 02:13 |
| bigfluff | Just read that through, should do the trick for you :) | 02:13 |
| Bashing-om | pinpenguin2: 2) Here are easy instructions to reset your password in Ubuntu: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword . | 02:16 |
| wedr_ | Does Ubuntu have a nifty system freeze feature where the screen literally freezes over? Kind of like this? https://i.redd.it/fnxbwer0ts051.gif | 02:23 |
| wedr_ | I remember there were some fun gadget type of things that demonstrates screen overlay art on Ubuntu | 02:23 |
| bigfluff | Ice, ice baby! | 02:24 |
| wedr_ | That GIF is caused by Nvidia drivers enabling the "Sharpening" feature | 02:24 |
| wedr_ | It "oversharpens" the screen, thus it has this ice effect. | 02:25 |
| snadge | i just updated ubuntu to 20.04, and whenever i hit the test button in the audio settings, the "front left / front right" always comes out the speakers | 02:35 |
| snadge | and never my headset, or my onboard audio when i select those devices, like it used to | 02:35 |
| robertparkerx | will fail2ban include protection against brute force by setting default rule | 02:44 |
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| gulo | I had posted this on the Ubuntu forums a couple of days ago as well, but I have a problem where some applications are not being drawn properly in my fluxbox GUI on 20.04. One example is OBS when I open it, it mirrors all of the bottom controls more than once depending on the size of the window. I have this problem in a CAD application that I use as well. How would I go about troubleshooting this? | 03:34 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | I'm trying to run doomsday client and it's giving me this error: libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast and then it segfaults. How would I go about troubleshooting this? | 03:44 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | it pops up with a splash before crashing | 03:45 |
| gulo | InnovAnon-Inc, sudo ldconfig -p | grep -i gl.so | 03:45 |
| gulo | Are you using nvidia driver and mesa driver? | 03:46 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | I think nvidia-340 | 03:47 |
| gulo | If you check you ldconfig, do you see a mesa pointer in there? | 03:47 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | it shows: libwayland-egl.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwayland-egl.so.1 libGL.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 libEGL.so.1 (libc6,x86-64) => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL.so.1 | 03:50 |
| gulo | Are you running opengl? | 03:51 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | not that I know of | 03:51 |
| giaco | I've just upgraded to ubuntu 20.04. I'm reading here and there that it officially supports wireguard and I also read that networkmanager has a gui for wireguard since v 1.16, and ubuntu 20.04 comes with 1.22, but I can't find it | 03:52 |
| giaco | I'm an happy user of wireguard command line since 2018, so it is not a read deal, but I wonder if I'm missing something | 03:53 |
| gulo | InnovAnon-Inc, Everything that I am reading about this problem has to do with mesa driver stepping on the nvidia driver. | 03:54 |
| gulo | One possible fix is to try and use the nvidia-settings to see if that builds a proper xorg config | 03:56 |
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| InnovAnon-Inc | I'm trying ubuntu-drivers autoinstall | 04:15 |
| gulo | Try doing ubuntu-drivers devices to see what devices there are and what drivers are recommended. | 04:15 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | nvidia-340 and xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | 04:17 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | still segfaulting, but the error messages went away :/ | 04:41 |
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| m1dn1ght5un | Hi. I've just installed 20.4 but am unable to set resolution higher than 1366x768. I have the proprietary nvidia driver installed. Anyone know what I'm missing? | 05:07 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | ok I finally managed to run nvidia-settings. It's saying Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused ERROR: The control display is undefined; please run `nvidia-settings --help` for usage information. | 06:17 |
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| pi0 | is there a way to install older kernels? | 07:28 |
| pi0 | i install linux-generic | 07:29 |
| pi0 | but i am not getting a selection menu at boot | 07:29 |
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| pi0 | i think i figured it out | 07:31 |
| m1dn1ght5un | Hi. I've just installed 20.4 but am unable to set resolution higher than 1366x768. I have the proprietary nvidia driver installed. Anyone know what I'm missing? | 07:37 |
| PCatinean | Hello everyone, I have a question about networking that I'm quite confused about, which is why the question might not be very clear, apologies for that. | 08:01 |
| PCatinean | I am trying to use ubuntu 20.04 as a node in a kubernetes cluster inside a datacenter. I am trying to configure a floating IP to work on any of the 3 nodes which is why I have to configure a new interface. I am doing this with netplan like this -> https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Cloud_floating_IP_persistent/en | 08:03 |
| PCatinean | But once I do that, any node that does not have that floating ip assigned to it basically causes issues in the cluster. It's like it's trying to take over that ip and that ip only and kills the rest of the interfaces or something... | 08:04 |
| Hamilton | For adding my custom systemd-timer, I should move stuff to /etc/systemd ? Isn't it a weird path? Shouldn't it be a user-based path? | 08:12 |
| frad | I want my 20.04 not to show the splash screen. To do that I'm using plymouth from the command line. Am I doing this right? | 08:44 |
| m1dn1ght5un | Hi. I've just installed 20.4 but am unable to set resolution higher than 1366x768. I have the proprietary nvidia driver installed. Anyone know what I'm missing? | 08:44 |
| frad | if I go to /usr/share/plymouth/themes/ and manually delete xubuntu-logo, will my machine automatically run xubuntu-text instead? | 08:51 |
| tatertots | m1dn1ght5un: your laptop display or a DVI/HDMI connected monitor? | 09:11 |
| Deano59 | frad: I'd like to know that too. :D | 09:12 |
| konrad__ | Hey, linux newbie here :) when I set something in the /etc/profile, this should be visible for **all** users, right? I have this - https://pastebin.com/cXyj6P77 - I have `export blah='si';` there, but when I open a new konsole window, it's not visible, why is that? Am I supposed to restart the pc or what? | 09:52 |
| ocean | konrad__: reading of /etc/profile happens at login. When you start/open a (new) konsole window it probalby just spawns "from under" your current login. (so there is no new actual login to read /etc/profile). Try running "bash --login" in the konsole window (and then echo $blah) | 10:02 |
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| konrad__ | ocean, thanks, it works, but only for this one console window, am I really supposed to restart the pc? | 10:06 |
| geirha | konrad__: restart isn't necessary, it will take effect next time you log in | 10:09 |
| konrad__ | geirha, thanks, trying... | 10:10 |
| cluelessperson | That's it, I'm installing Ubuntu on my desktop | 10:11 |
| cluelessperson | I've had it with Windows. | 10:11 |
| cluelessperson | total trash | 10:11 |
| kieto | Good for you :) | 10:12 |
| konrad__ | geirha, ocean - thank you very much, re-logging in worked:) | 10:15 |
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| shachaf | I upgraded to 20.04 today and python-gtk seems to be gone -- is that intentional? | 10:43 |
| shachaf | I see, it's no longer a Python package for GTK 3. | 11:01 |
| ztane | do-release-upgrade hangs on Checking for a new Ubuntu release | 11:21 |
| ztane | how to debug? | 11:21 |
| PCatinean | How does one assign to ip addresses to the same interface with netplan? | 11:25 |
| lotuspsychje | ztane: your ubuntu release? upgrading to wich release? apt errors gives what? | 11:44 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 11:58 |
| konrad__ | Hello and good morning. When rsyncing the whole system, (/) which directories/files should be (can be) excluded? I guess /run and /proc but what else? | 12:14 |
| konrad__ | I am making a backup script | 12:15 |
| BlackSalmon | Can i downgrade python3.8 on my ubuntu 20? | 12:20 |
| BlackSalmon | To 3.7 | 12:20 |
| ph88 | i'm trying a dist upgrade but something is going wrong https://bpa.st/YVPA what can i do about it ? | 12:25 |
| ocean | ph88: there are errors for two (separate) repositories: (I did not look into the details, but:) apt.postgresql.org seemed to have dropped 32-bit support, and the debian.neo4j.org most likely has a new gpg key (by now) | 12:38 |
| Dan20200525 | Completely new. Have access to a 16gb usb drive, a working old macbook, and a windows vista pc I am trying to vet for a migration to ubuntu. I want to format the usb drive on the mac to exFAT, place an ISO disk on the USB drive, and boot the Vista machine from the ubuntu ISO on the usb drive. Will this work? | 12:39 |
| Ben64 | Dan20200525: no, you just write the iso to the drive | 12:41 |
| Dan20200525 | Ben... thank you for the response! The USB is second hand and I want to format it before use to reduce chances of infection. Does the ISO writing process automatically reformat the drive? | 12:44 |
| BlackSalmon | Can i downgrade python3.8 to 3.7 on my ubuntu 20? | 12:45 |
| BlackSalmon | Cause I can't install tensorflow 1.14 on my machine due "ERROR: tensorflow_gpu-1.14.0-cp37-cp37m-manylinux1_x86_64.whl is not a supported wheel on this platform." | 12:46 |
| Dan20200525 | Second line of questioning. Remember, completely new. Will 16gb be enough space for barebones Ubuntu install capable of connecting to the internet, browsing, and downloading a foldingathome client? | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | Dan20200525, 16GB is enough for the OS, but will probly leave only about 10-11GB for stgorage unless you have another partttion or drive for that | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | scuse thepoor spelling | 12:52 |
| Dan20200525 | BluesK... Thank you for your response! I think my immediate storage needs will be modest, I just need the OS, browser, space for a small client, and some room for log files. Will Ubuntu recognize the unused harddrive space on the WindowsVista machine? | 12:55 |
| Ben64 | Dan20200525: uh you can't boot and install to the same drive though | 12:55 |
| Dan20200525 | Ben... just to clarify, my hope is to create the ISO image on the MacBook, store it on the USB drive, move the USB drive to the Vista machine, and boot the Vista machine from the USB drive. | 12:57 |
| Ben64 | but you were asking if 16GB was enough, like you were planning to install it onto the usb | 12:58 |
| Ben64 | unless the vista machine only has a 16GB hard drive, but that seems unlikely | 12:58 |
| Dan20200525 | I want to see if I can run Ubuntu on the machine currently running Vista from a USB drive. Perhaps I am missing the key subtleties of the terminology? I think this may be something called a live linux disc or something like this? | 13:02 |
| lotuspsychje | persistent ubuntu usb? | 13:04 |
| akik | Dan20200525: just write the iso image on the usb stick. macos has dd but use of=/dev/rdisk/nnn as the target. it'll be slower than using a ssd but everything should work the same | 13:08 |
| akik | Dan20200525: there are some things that need tweaking but you'll see if you need them | 13:08 |
| Dan20200525 | Thank you ak..! | 13:09 |
| akik | Dan20200525: what processor does it have? | 13:10 |
| unRheal | I haven't used Linux regularly for a while.. one used to compile the kernel after installing, but I presume that's useless now with the module stuff(?) | 13:12 |
| Dan20200525 | It is really old. The target device is quite old, I think it is a 32 bit. One of the last. | 13:12 |
| akik | Dan20200525: ok maybe i was a bit optimistic. have you tried searching if somebody's been able to do it? | 13:12 |
| Dan20200525 | I have done some preliminary research, and so far most indications are that while it would not be optimal, it would be doable. | 13:15 |
| akik | Dan20200525: what processor does it have? | 13:15 |
| lotuspsychje | unRheal: compiling kernels is not really supported here, use the official kernel instead and !mainline | 13:15 |
| konrad__ | Hi, am I correct that cron jobs are started as sudo? I mean scripts in e.g. /etc/cron.daily/ ? | 13:16 |
| lotuspsychje | !cron | konrad__ | 13:16 |
| ubottu | konrad__: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto | 13:16 |
| konrad__ | lotuspsychje, ok, thanks, reading | 13:17 |
| unRheal | lotuspsychje: thank you, I'll check there, it's not that I'm having trouble compiling it, I was just wondering if people just didn't do it any more, because it's not necessary or useful.. but I should ask that over there too? | 13:18 |
| ph88 | ocean, what can i do about these errors ? | 13:18 |
| lotuspsychje | unRheal: i didnt say people dont do it anymore, the ubuntu support channel just dont support it | 13:19 |
| lotuspsychje | unRheal: feel free to join #ubuntu-discuss to talk about it more | 13:19 |
| Dan20200525 | ak...Processor: Intel Core Duo T2080 | 13:20 |
| akik | Dan20200525: ok wish you good luck | 13:22 |
| Dan20200525 | ak... thank you for the response. Are you hopeful or doubtful that this will work? | 13:23 |
| konrad__ | Just to make sure, if I have 25 6 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) in my crontab then all the scripts there will be executed as root, right? | 13:25 |
| akik | Dan20200525: a bit doubtful. which model macbook is it? | 13:25 |
| akik | Dan20200525: ubuntu comes with gnome 3 which on older hw might not be such a good experience | 13:27 |
| Dan20200525 | the macbook is not the target at this time, but I have a macbook 2008 dual core machine. The target machine is a toshiba satellite. | 13:28 |
| Dan20200525 | ak... I am sure that the user experience will be suboptimal, I am just hoping to give the machine a bit more life and support the foldingathome project. | 13:29 |
| akik | Dan20200525: oh right. i misunderstood completely :) | 13:30 |
| Dan20200525 | i actually think that the macbook will perform better, but I am not ready for that migration just yet. | 13:32 |
| Dan20200525 | lotuspsych... thank you for your response. Yes, live linux with persistent storage on usb. | 13:36 |
| ocean | ph88: are you on amd64 architecture? (as per https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt - pgdg indeed did drop i386 support. If you are on amd64 (run command dpkg --print-architecture) you can add that to the sources.list | 13:42 |
| ocean | ph88: as for the key error you can read here what to do: https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j/issues/12326 (where it reads The key is now updated. You can redo...) | 13:42 |
| BlackSalmon | Can i downgrade python3.8 to 3.7 on my ubuntu 20? Cause I can't install tensorflow 1.14 on my machine due "ERROR: tensorflow_gpu-1.14.0-cp37-cp37m-manylinux1_x86_64.whl is not a supported wheel on this platform." | 13:46 |
| BlackSalmon | please help | 13:46 |
| Dan20200525 | I have done some additional reading, it is looking like I will partition the USB such that it has one partition for live lunix, and one partition for persistent storage. Am I understanding things correctly? | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | a separate partition for storage is an option, but not necessary | 14:01 |
| artistsvoid | BlackSalmon: have you tried https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59549829/how-do-i-downgrade-my-version-of-python-from-3-7-5-to-3-6-5-on-ubuntu the most common way to have various versions of python side by side on ubuntu seem to be virtual environments | 14:06 |
| artistsvoid | BlackSalmon: and btw is that your issue https://github.com/deepmind/open_spiel/issues/166 ? | 14:09 |
| PCatinean | Can someone help me configure the same ubuntu 20.04 server from netplan to ifupdown? | 14:15 |
| BluesKaj | PCatinean, not using NM? | 14:16 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: I ran into an issue with Tensorflow2 as well - my CPU cam out about 8 months before the new Intel CPUs came with a new instruction set, so I'm going to have to re-compile Tensorflow2 with that instruction set disabled in the compiler. | 14:16 |
| PCatinean | BluesKaj, sorry? | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | PCatinean, network manager | 14:19 |
| PCatinean | it's ofr ubuntu server | 14:34 |
| unRheal | Anyone.. have any idea why I installed Ubuntu 18.04 LTS 3 times, and no problem with my network in the settings app, but then I went to 20.04, and my network just doesn't show up in the settings app - all I see is the VPN and Network Proxy. | 14:37 |
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| goddard | anyone know why qt creator has no kits setup by default? | 15:03 |
| shardulc | the audio on my laptop stopped working yesterday, out of the blue. I tried following the usual instructions about unmuting, restarting pulseaudio and alsa, etc. to no avail. | 15:11 |
| shardulc | described the full problem here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1243359/yet-another-no-sound-in-ubuntu-18-04 | 15:11 |
| shardulc | how can I get my audio to work again? | 15:11 |
| jeremy31 | shardulc: All I can think of is something stuck in audio jack | 15:15 |
| goddard | shardulc: does it work on a live image? | 15:16 |
| goddard | might just wanna make sure it isn't hardware failure | 15:16 |
| BluesKaj | shardulc, if you recently updated/upgraded maybe the default automute in alsamixer is enabled | 15:16 |
| shardulc | jeremy31: you mean the physical audio jack I plug headphones etc. into? | 15:16 |
| jeremy31 | shardulc: yes | 15:16 |
| shardulc | goddard: good idea, I'll try that | 15:16 |
| shardulc | jeremy31: not sure how I would test that. but if I plug in my headphones, they show up in the sound options, and if I take them out they go away | 15:17 |
| jeremy31 | shardulc: That should tell us the audio jack isn't the issue | 15:17 |
| shardulc | BluesKaj: I checked it, it's disabled | 15:17 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 15:18 |
| shardulc | I just tried booting from a live image and the audio worked fine (@ goddard) | 15:32 |
| ioria | shardulc, i'd check also if you have any ~/.pulse* hidden folders in home (and mv/remove them) | 15:33 |
| shardulc | ioria: yes, I removed those | 15:34 |
| ioria | shardulc, now or before ? | 15:34 |
| shardulc | before | 15:34 |
| ioria | OK | 15:34 |
| shardulc | I also checked for .asound and .cache/pulse | 15:35 |
| gulo | I had posted this on the Ubuntu forums a couple of days ago as well, but I have a problem where some applications are not being drawn properly in my fluxbox GUI on 20.04. One example is OBS when I open it, it mirrors all of the bottom controls more than once depending on the size of the window. I have this problem in a CAD application that I use as well. How would I go about troubleshooting this? | 15:37 |
| shardulc | (sorry, did I miss anything?) | 15:41 |
| shardulc | since the audio works if I boot from a live image, is there any way to restore the entire pulseaudio/alsa config to the version that works? | 15:44 |
| ioria | shardulc, try to comment 'load-module module-suspend-on-idle' in /etc/pulse/default.pa (and restart pulse); if to no avail, reverse it | 15:49 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | So currently on 18.04lts, everyhting fully updated- I tried 20.04, but had horrible stuttering issues so I'm waiting on the first point release | 15:54 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | I can't seem to side scroll anywhere | 15:54 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | Does something need tweaked with my mouse driver or input settings to enable this? | 15:55 |
| EtherMan | Hi. I'm trying to install Prometheus on a 20.04 server but I can't get it working. Netstat does say it's listening. I can even connect from the local machine. But I cannot get anything remotely, even though it's bound on a public interface (I'm just trying to get it working for now, will change to private later). | 15:56 |
| EtherMan | Is there some setting I need to set to get it to accept remote requests? | 15:56 |
| ph88 | thanks ocean . Yes i'm on amd64 . Where can i find the current definition where it uses i386 ? i don't see postgresql in sources.list | 16:00 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | In an unrelated question, how hard would it be to make some live-usb images with my selection of packages added and all updates applied? | 16:01 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | I'm not after a persistant usb stick so much as one that saves me a bunch of setup work and 1.5gb of downloads each time. | 16:02 |
| ph88 | i found in /etc/apt/sources.list.d the files pgdg.list pgdg.list.distUpgrade pgdg.list.save which one should i change to amd64 ? | 16:04 |
| delinquentme | Hi all. Im attempting to get the default USB-tethering working on Bionic 18.04. My phone device shows up when using $ lsusb and claims "network tethering" but Im unable to pull up a website like youtube. | 16:09 |
| ph88 | What can i do about bad repository signature ? https://bpa.st/4EBQ | 16:11 |
| DocMors | ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 2048 | 16:28 |
| DocMors | grr ww | 16:29 |
| giaco | Hello! Ubuntu 20.04 here. I'm testing the wifi hotspot feature. It somehow works not I think not in the indended way: it creates an hidden wifi without asking and the connected clients doesn't get internet connection | 16:32 |
| kartikay | Hello! I want to put /tmp on a tmpfs, but I'm worried about big tmp files crashing my system. Is there a way to use the tmpfs so that if the RAM is filled by a big file it can write it to disk? | 16:33 |
| tomtiger11 | giaco: on your point about clients not getting an internet connection, your device must have a separate connection than the wifi device being used to provide the hotspot. (ie an ethernet connection, or another WiFi NIC) | 16:35 |
| giaco | tomtiger11: yes, I know. I'm on a laptop and I'm getting Internet connection via wired ethernet connection (and it works nicely, I'm talking using that) | 16:36 |
| mbeierl | kartikay, I think you can make tmpfs as large as RAM+swap, and it will swap as any other process: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt | 16:37 |
| tomtiger11 | giaco: then you may well have a valid issue! see if anyone else can assist with that on here, or there might already be an open bug on the tracker about the issue | 16:37 |
| giaco | tomtiger11: thanks. I quite used to manual fiddling with nmcli, but never used hotspot and I'd happy to use it via gui | 16:39 |
| kartikay | mbeierl: would my system be just as fast with tmpfs if it starts swapping as it would be with normal RAM not swapping and a /tmp on disk? or would there be any disadvantage? | 16:41 |
| tomtiger11 | giaco: just to check, are you using GNOME to configure and turn on the hotspot? | 16:42 |
| giaco | tomtiger11: yes, I'm using 100% gnome gui for both wired and hostspot setup. But I can also provide feedback from nmcli/nm connection profile/nm-connection-editor if it would help | 16:46 |
| tomtiger11 | giaco: I'll be honest, I'm absolutely not a gnome expert, and even more so not an expert on the way the hotspot functionality works, but it can't hurt to put it in a paste.ubuntu.com and me/anyone else in the channel can take a look | 16:48 |
| giaco | tomtiger11: I thank you, but I don't know what should I paste. I'll wait for some further help. Thanks | 16:52 |
| tomtiger11 | giaco: Apologies, I thought you had an error log or something! Hope you get it sorted :) | 16:53 |
| giaco | tomtiger11: no errors, wifi hostspot goes up, I can connect to it only if I set it as hidden SSID on clients (tried android phone), once connected they can ping each other (DHCP works) but android can't reach internet | 16:56 |
| Smashcat | Anyone know how to stop ubuntu from changing the /etc/resolv.conf file very boot? It keeps breaking the dns server setting | 17:00 |
| Deano59 | can anyone tell me what fwupd fwupd-signed does? | 17:01 |
| ocean | ph88: sorry, have been away. Hope you solved it by now? | 17:02 |
| tomtiger11 | giaco: do you have a file named 'Hotspot.nmconnection' in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections ? | 17:02 |
| giaco | tomtiger11: I've just found out something strange. The connection profile that describe the hotspot I'm using is /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/jolly. But connection.id: gollum. So it seems that ubuntu creates a one for all hotspot profile | 17:06 |
| giaco | I've never selected "jolly" as name. I've just been asked ssid (gollum) from gnome gui | 17:07 |
| giaco | so ubuntu created a jolly file name with connection.id: gollum | 17:07 |
| methodize | so, i can share folders over my network on my ubuntu machine via the "right clicking on the folder> local network share method" and it works. Now i have hooked up external hard drive and gone through the same steps and the hard drive is visible but not accessible as the other folders are. when i try to access it on my windows machine it says | 17:12 |
| methodize | "Windows cannot access \\192.168.x.x\Seagate". hope someone can point me in the right direction, thanks. | 17:12 |
| goddard | the gnome applications menu is messed up with its little popup boxes | 17:14 |
| goddard | it cuts off the last line icon text | 17:14 |
| goddard | should let you scroll down about 10 pixels more | 17:14 |
| frad | !question | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 17:14 |
| BlackSalmon | I can't boot ubuntu. While I was installing nvidia drivers I got error "E: Write error - write (28: No space left on device)" so I just rebooted it and It wont start | 17:15 |
| BlackSalmon | I'm mad af | 17:15 |
| IpSo | Anyone know why systemd-resolved is returning inconsistent lookup results for the same domain when there is only a single DNS server specified? On the same command I can do a dig, then a ping, then a dig again, and the 1st dig returns one IP, the ping a different IP, and the 2nd dig the same as the ping. | 17:16 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: sorry, I have like a half dozen spare 1TB drives lying around.. | 17:16 |
| BlackSalmon | unRheal: It's not about space, but I can't boot ubuntu | 17:17 |
| IpSo | BlackSalmon, are you using btrfs? | 17:17 |
| BlackSalmon | IpSo: btrfs? I hosted it on vmware workstation | 17:18 |
| BlackSalmon | idk what btrfs is | 17:18 |
| goddard | :D | 17:20 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: duckduckgo search: Btrfs, an abbreviation for b-tree file system, is a file system based on the copy-on-write principle, | 17:20 |
| BlackSalmon | unRheal: I google it too but it tells me nothing at all | 17:20 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, the question is - when the Ubuntu VM was installed on VMware workstation, a filesystem would have been chosen. Depending on the type of filesystem, the recovery is different | 17:21 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, so, if you don't remember, that probably means the default. In order to know the default, we probably need to know what version and flavour of Ubuntu was installed. | 17:22 |
| BlackSalmon | How do I can know this? I just install the file from main site of ubuntu, put .iso into VMWare and vu ala | 17:22 |
| BlackSalmon | 20.04 | 17:22 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, was this the site that you downloaded from? https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ | 17:23 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: I dunno "no space left on device" usually means it's something about space...(?) | 17:23 |
| mbeierl | In VMware workstation, what size of disk did you give to the VM? | 17:23 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: how do you mean it tells you nothing? It explains the b-tree file system quite a bit.. | 17:26 |
| BlackSalmon | mbeierl: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop and this cute big download button. I gave 20GB for this VM | 17:27 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, thanks. I understand your frustration, but I am just trying to help give you useful answers. | 17:27 |
| mbeierl | So one thing to note, BlackSalmon is that it recommends 25GB of disk space. 20 might not have been enough. Is there data on this VM that you need to recover? | 17:28 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: Did you put it on your E: drive, which is full? (if you selected to not pre-allocate the drive space for your VM) | 17:29 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, so many questions for you, hope you don't mind: Is VMware Workstation running on Windows or Linux? | 17:29 |
| azi` | say I leave my ubuntu laptop open over night. will it suspend at some point? | 17:29 |
| mbeierl | unRheal, good point! I missed that. Ok, so inferring from that single statement: E is a Windows drive, and it is Windows that ran out of space when trying to allocate more disk for the Virtual Machine | 17:30 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, from what I understand now, you are running Windows and your Windows machine ran out of disk. I will politely back out of the conversation now as I don't really know much about Windows. | 17:31 |
| artistsvoid | azi`: go to power settings and check | 17:33 |
| BlackSalmon | mbeierl: Ok, so shitty situation. I thought that I couldn't install 20GB of files in 1 days but actually I might did that. 18,9/20 GB is filled as the VM says | 17:33 |
| corshmock | Hi I'm trying to format an sd card for a nextbase webcam | 17:34 |
| gulo | BlackSalmon, did you check to make sure that you partitions are the size that you think they are? I have noticed something with the LVM builder on 20.04 that it doesn't always use the whole disk, sometimes it only builds an LVM that is around 4 GB in size. | 17:34 |
| corshmock | lsblk tells me - sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom | 17:35 |
| corshmock | mmcblk0 179:0 0 29.2G 0 disk | 17:35 |
| corshmock | └─mmcblk0p1 179:1 0 29.2G 0 part /media/corshmock/NEXTBASE | 17:35 |
| gulo | What does df -h tell you? | 17:35 |
| gulo | Sorry, wrong person :) | 17:36 |
| gulo | corshmock, mkfs is how you format something. But you need to know what to format it to for your webcam. | 17:36 |
| corshmock | This might look at bit better - df -h tells me - /dev/mmcblk0p1 30G 29G 451M 99% /media/corshmock/NEXTBA | 17:36 |
| corshmock | gulo: thanks very much mate | 17:37 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: Which is why I have the extra terabyte drives, and 11TB installed on the PC | 17:37 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, I get it. Silly question - why are you installing nvidia drives in the VM? | 17:37 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, and is it the Windows E: drive that is full? That was the error that you posted from what I re-read | 17:38 |
| unRheal | isn't there an option in BIOS to let the VM directly access the hardware..? Hyper-v or something? | 17:38 |
| BlackSalmon | mbeierl: I want to play with AI, which requires nvidia drivers. | 17:38 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, ok, and you have an nvidia card, I would guess :) | 17:38 |
| BlackSalmon | I have ~55GB left on my C: partition in windows. | 17:38 |
| mbeierl | What about the E: partition? | 17:39 |
| BlackSalmon | I don't have E: drive | 17:39 |
| unRheal | and an Nvidia card, and it has to be the CUDA drivers. I've just set up that say dev environment 4 times.. | 17:39 |
| mbeierl | Then where did you get the "E: Write error - write (28: No space left on device)" error appear? | 17:39 |
| corshmock | sudo mkfs.vat -F32 -v /dev/nmcblk0p1 | 17:39 |
| corshmock | sudo: mkfs.vat: command not found | 17:39 |
| BlackSalmon | I have both nvidia and amd gpu, nvidia card is waaay waaaay older than my amd card | 17:40 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: when you got the E: Write error, was it from the VM or from the host OS? | 17:40 |
| BlackSalmon | in VM | 17:40 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, the VM, as in the Ubuntu Desktop gave you that error? Or VMware Workstation did? | 17:41 |
| unRheal | My nvidia card is just about the lowest card you can use with CUDA drivers, and I got it about 6 or so years ago, for $1100 | 17:41 |
| BlackSalmon | I get that in console while I was installing the nvidia drivers, so ubuntu | 17:41 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, OH! "E: " = error, not "E:" drive | 17:42 |
| unRheal | plus, you have to have a CPU that allows you to turn on the option that allows VM's to directly access hardware, or it just won't work anyway. | 17:42 |
| unRheal | I dunno... "E: Write error - write (28: No space left on device)" looks like a drive to me | 17:43 |
| BlackSalmon | i5-9400f will work? | 17:43 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, so, what you are looking to experiment with is GPU for AI. You are trying to use a VM, but that might be a challenge. See, your nVidia GPU is real hardware, and it is in use running your real desktop in Microsoft Windows | 17:43 |
| unRheal | but hey, hard to say not being there. ;) | 17:44 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, so the first question we might need to answer is "is it possible for Microsoft Windows to pass the GPU to a VM when it is already in use?" | 17:44 |
| unRheal | mbeierl: just what I've been saying, the CPU has to support the option, and it has to be turned on in BIOS | 17:46 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, and unfortunately, the answer seems to be no: https://superuser.com/questions/1472124/gpu-passthrough-from-windows-10-to-ubuntu-on-vmware-player | 17:46 |
| mbeierl | unRheal, correct ^ VMware claims no. | 17:46 |
| BlackSalmon | Ugh | 17:47 |
| mbeierl | unRheal, and I think the "E: Write error" is also normal output for dpkg or apt | 17:47 |
| unRheal | mbeierl: you'd know better than me | 17:48 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: the spec sheet at: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/190883/intel-core-i5-9400f-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html | 17:48 |
| mbeierl | unRheal, it just "looks" familiar now that I look at it again | 17:48 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: says it does support Virt. Tech for directed IO VT-d | 17:49 |
| unRheal | find it in your bios and turn it on | 17:49 |
| corshmock | Got the sd card formatted with gparted. Thanks for your help gulo | 17:49 |
| gulo | corshmock, you're welcome. | 17:50 |
| mbeierl | unRheal, BlackSalmon would need a second nvidia card, one that the operating system does not touch, and then a virtualization produce (VMware vSphere) that would allow GPU PCI passthrough. It's not just CPU virtualization passthrough here. | 17:51 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: but I'd check that spec sheet and look at the VT-x which links to the hardware that's supported - it's possible your graphics card isn't.. I don't have a clue. | 17:51 |
| mbeierl | ya, it's more than VT-x - it's PCI passthrough | 17:52 |
| methodize | how come i can't see my external drive on my network? all other shared files are visible. browsing with windows. | 17:52 |
| mbeierl | Which the "relatively cheap" Workstation will not support | 17:52 |
| unRheal | I agree, there's a lot more to it than *just* turning it on in BIOS. | 17:52 |
| mbeierl | methodize, it is possibly due to the mount permissions - they might be preventing the external drive from being read/written by the samba/cifs processes | 17:53 |
| gulo | mbeierl, Is it a permissions issue? How are you sharing the drive? | 17:53 |
| Psil0Cybin | hey guys i have a question anyone here use RKHUNTER or any kind of tools like this to check for malware on linux machines? | 17:54 |
| mbeierl | gulo - it's methodize :) but we're both answering the same, I think | 17:54 |
| methodize | sharing with samba | 17:54 |
| methodize | i have enabled guest access | 17:54 |
| gulo | mbeierl, lol my bad. | 17:54 |
| mbeierl | methodize, but you plugged in the external drive and it is mounted by Linux | 17:54 |
| unRheal | I agree with mbeierl | 17:54 |
| mbeierl | methodize, what is the mount point of the external drive on your linux machine? | 17:55 |
| BlackSalmon | mbeierl, unRheal: So it's about having 2 GPU (one for passthru) and right settings in BIOS for CPU? | 17:55 |
| methodize | ive given it 755 permissions through the cli | 17:55 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, yes, a good start. The next step is to find a product other than Microsoft Windows and VMware Workstation that will allow for GPU passthrough | 17:55 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, typically GPU in a VM is in the domain of VMware ESXi, which is its own operating system. And it does not have a "desktop". It's pretty much a black box appliance which dedicates itself to running VMs exclusively | 17:56 |
| methodize | mount point is /media/mike | 17:57 |
| mbeierl | methodize, ok, so let's start with "mount | grep /media/mike" | 17:57 |
| mbeierl | methodize, that should tell us the mount options, and show what permissions it is mounted with | 17:58 |
| mbeierl | methodize, is the external drive formatted with NTFS, or what type of filesystem? | 17:58 |
| unRheal | mbeierl: you mean hypervisor, or something else? | 17:58 |
| mbeierl | unRheal, yes, hypervisor. VMware workstation is a hypervisor that runs as a process on an existing operating system, such as Windows. So it is at the mercy of Windows when it comes to hardware access | 17:59 |
| mbeierl | unRheal, with ESXi, it is the operating system and the hypervisor, so it can do what it wants | 17:59 |
| mbeierl | KVM is similar, but I don't know anything about PCI passthrough on KVM | 18:00 |
| unRheal | workstation is a hypervisor? | 18:00 |
| mbeierl | yes, technically it is | 18:00 |
| methodize | mbeierl, /dev/sda1 on /media/mike/Seagate Portable Drive type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2) | 18:00 |
| mbeierl | just like Hyper-v | 18:00 |
| unRheal | Hypervisor runs before the OS loads | 18:01 |
| mbeierl | Not always. | 18:01 |
| gulo | unRheal, I might be able to help with a KVM passthrough. I ran one for a couple years. | 18:01 |
| methodize | it is formated ntfs | 18:01 |
| mbeierl | unRheal, type 1 and type 2 hypervisors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervisor :) | 18:01 |
| mbeierl | gulo, it's BlackSalmon that is trying to learn AI using GPU from nVidia in a VM :) | 18:02 |
| unRheal | One of the ones I tried a few installs ago did.. I think box or X something? had an option for hypervisor, and it loaded before the OS. Maybe some don't, again, you probably know a lot more than me about it | 18:02 |
| gulo | Wow, I am just striking out today. I should probably go take a nap or something. | 18:02 |
| mbeierl | gulo, but you have the right answers! | 18:03 |
| mbeierl | just unRheal and I are having such lively conversations | 18:03 |
| giaco | could you please tell me what "type iptables" gives on your ubuntu 20.04 box? | 18:03 |
| ph88 | What can i do about bad repository signature ? https://bpa.st/4EBQ | 18:03 |
| mbeierl | methodize, let me see if I can recall how that works again. When you mount NTFS, you are mounting it as the user, and all files written to it are written as that user. In your case, that user might be you, but I think it might be root (user_id=0,group_id=0). | 18:04 |
| mbeierl | methodize, if it is root, then perhaps the samba processes cannot access the files in the mount point? | 18:05 |
| gulo | BlackSalmon, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF That was the document I followed when I built mine. At the time I was running Arch, but I did something similar in Ubuntu. I used KVM to run a Windows box with SteamVR on my Linux box. | 18:05 |
| mbeierl | methodize, what does "ls -al '/media/mike/Seagate Portable Drive'" show as the owner of '.'? | 18:06 |
| methodize | mbeierl, yes, i feel like its a mount point issue, it's just that i have a few things pointing to the current mount point, im trying to avoid changing it if possible. | 18:06 |
| unRheal | we don't even know if his GPU is capable .. he said he has an Old nvidia and a newer AMD. If his Nvidia card is too old, installing CUDA drivers will be impossible even without a VM | 18:07 |
| giaco | could you please tell me what "type iptables" gives on your ubuntu 20.04 box? | 18:07 |
| mbeierl | methodize, fair enough. NTFS is a difficult beast to work with when it comes to permissions, as it assumes there is only 1 user running the operating syste, | 18:07 |
| BlackSalmon | I have RX 570 nitro+ (AMD) and GT 730 (nvidia) | 18:08 |
| unRheal | ya, if it's NTFS, the whole drive could have permissions to just a UUID or whatever, if it's from another machine/OS | 18:08 |
| gulo | BlackSalmon, I did mine with some crappy Intel card, and a nvidia 980 TI at the time. | 18:08 |
| unRheal | ya, I don't think the intel card helped, but I have the nvidia 980 Ti as well, and am setting up with it. | 18:09 |
| methodize | mbeierl, it's reading 'mike' as the owner of '.' | 18:09 |
| ayjay_t | am i right to think that packing libraries is much more complicated than packaging single binaries for use with apt? | 18:09 |
| methodize | mbeierl, if it helps any it says 'root' is the owner of '..' | 18:10 |
| gulo | BlackSalmon, It's pretty much the exact same steps either way. You have to blacklist the video card, but first you have to verify if they belong to their own IOMMU groups. | 18:10 |
| gulo | These are my totally work appropriate notes: #Verify that the two video cards are in different IOMMU groups. If not, you're screwed modinfo vfio-pci #If not error, you're good, if error, you're screwed | 18:11 |
| BlackSalmon | I thought it will be 1-2 day job to run that out. But it looks like few days now :/ | 18:11 |
| mbeierl | methodize, might be outdated by now, but this was my recollection of how I did this years ago with my NTFS external drive: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=190021 | 18:11 |
| gulo | I had originally started out with 2 nvidia cards, but they were in the same IOMMU, so I switched to some junk Intel card I had laying around. | 18:11 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, oh, of course, the machine that you are running this on needs a Linux install, not Microsoft Windows | 18:12 |
| BlackSalmon | That's why I'm trying to do that on ubuntu. Or you mean the host machine? | 18:13 |
| gulo | Oh, I didn't know you were running Windows. I haven't tried this with virtual box, or HyperV yet, or VMWare workstation. | 18:13 |
| mbeierl | methodize, bottom line: force user = username in smb.conf or the equivalent | 18:13 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, yes, the HOST machine :( | 18:13 |
| BlackSalmon | :| | 18:13 |
| mbeierl | gulo, will not work with VMware workstation - GPU passthrough is NOT supported | 18:13 |
| BlackSalmon | I think I'll just pass and don't try it on my PC if it's more than a problem with ubuntu. I'll just try install linux on my old PC and stick nvidia card there | 18:14 |
| gulo | BlackSalmon, Looks like Server 2016 Hyper-V supports hardware passwthrough. The call it DDA (Discrete Device Assignment) | 18:15 |
| mbeierl | I'm pretty sure it is not possible to tell Windows to ignore hardware in the physical host, but instead to just pass it through to a guest process such as a type-2 hypervisor | 18:15 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: I think more than a few days, I don't think you can do CUDA AI stuff with only 1 or 2 GB on your Nvidia card.. I think you need like 5 or more GB | 18:15 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, that is why Linux is used for this type of research more than Windows... things like this are more possible | 18:15 |
| mbeierl | gulo, that is interesting. It's huge improvement if it DDA works as expected! | 18:16 |
| methodize | mbeierl, i am indebted to you! thanks, it worked like a dream. i can now see all my files, write to and read from on my windows machine. very much appreciated. | 18:16 |
| unRheal | Though the specs on Nvidia site says it supports CUDA and has x CUDA cores (depending on which card you have: he GT 730 DDR3 128-bit GT 730 DDR3 64-bit GT 730 GDDR5) | 18:16 |
| mbeierl | methodize, some things don't change :) !! Woot! Congratulations | 18:16 |
| gulo | mbeierl, Yeah, I haven't used it before, I just Googled it though. I always hated Hyper-V :) | 18:17 |
| BlackSalmon | Should I keep pushing to try running this on virtual machine or swap to my old crap pc and install there a linux? | 18:17 |
| mbeierl | gulo, it's the underlying OS that I cannot figure out :) | 18:17 |
| pizzaburger | Hi! I'm having a constant static sound through external speakers when a AUX cable is connected to my laptop. The static sound disappears when sound is being played. It's also only present when I have USB-C cables plugged in. The issue is not present when I "try Ubuntu", but right after I install it it gives me the static sound. Running 20.04 LTS. | 18:17 |
| pizzaburger | Any suggestions? Thanks! | 18:17 |
| methodize | mbeierl, (y) | 18:17 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, direct use of linux will simplify your life greatly. You won't have to troubleshoot the virtualization passthrough problems that way | 18:17 |
| gulo | It kind of depends on the actual AI stack that you're using as to how well it will run. There are cheap devices that you can buy from Intel to start playing with it. Or there are cloud offerings, or there are CPU bound or GPU bound ones. | 18:18 |
| unRheal | I'd definitely bail on the VM, it's hard enough to set up an AI dev env., I've done at least 4 ubuntu reinstalls over the last couple weeks trying to get it right.. | 18:19 |
| giaco | could you please open a terminal and tell me what command "type iptables" returns on your ubuntu 20.04 box? | 18:19 |
| gulo | I think Hackaday had an article a week or so ago about setting up AI on a Pi 4+ | 18:19 |
| mbeierl | giaco, who are you asking that of? | 18:19 |
| gulo | giaco, iptables is /usr/sbin/iptables | 18:19 |
| mbeierl | gulo, thanks. I don't have 20.04 at the moment :) | 18:20 |
| BlackSalmon | mbeierl, unRheal: what problem would I meet anyway if it's so hard if i wouldn't choose working with VM | 18:20 |
| BlackSalmon | ? | 18:20 |
| unRheal | iptables says type -h for more info | 18:20 |
| AlmarShenwan | how to merge uefi partition and system partition (windows)? | 18:21 |
| AlmarShenwan | i read that is not possible cause of ntfs and fat32 | 18:21 |
| AlmarShenwan | any tricks? | 18:21 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, Getting the host operating system to virtualize the second GPU and ensure that it is fully functional could be a couple days of work | 18:21 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, running Linux directly on the hardware eliminates that work | 18:21 |
| unRheal | First, I don't think you have a graphics card (nvidia anyway, dunno if you can use amd instead) that is capable. Go to the invidia site, and look into installing CUDA drivers for your card, and check the rest of the bits, somewhere I'm pretty sure there's a min. spec for RAM on your GPU that's over 5, yours is only 1 or 2, depending on which you have | 18:23 |
| ThinkT510 | AlmarShenwan: uefi will require a separate small fat32 partition to use as the efi system partition. you don't want to merge that with windows. | 18:26 |
| BlackSalmon | https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus#compute It is capable, 3.5 whatever is its | 18:26 |
| dreamon | hello. I bought a thinkpad and copied my hdd 1:1 .. it works but cpu frequency is wrong shown. and it consume >27Watt without running somethin or charging .. | 18:33 |
| mbeierl | BlackSalmon, and this is what I mean by doing the tests with Linux on the hardware eliminates some days of work: What if it does not work, is it the card for sure, or is it the virtualzation layer preventing the card from being used. | 18:33 |
| dreamon | playing a movie it jumps up to 46Watt.. wondering.. | 18:37 |
| pavlos | dreamon: model ? | 18:38 |
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| giaco | gulo: thanks | 18:39 |
| kristian_on_linu | erm, in KeePassXC, I accidentally clicked "Don't save this site" or what it's called when it asks if it can recognize a page in the future | 18:40 |
| kristian_on_linu | what can I do? | 18:40 |
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| dreamon | pavlos, thinkpad E15 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz | 18:41 |
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| dreamon | pavlos, I dont know whats the right scaling driver for this CPU | 18:44 |
| pavlos | dreamon: why do you say cpu freq is wrongly shown? | 18:44 |
| pavlos | dreamon: grep 'model name' /proc/cpuinfo will give you 1.80GHz | 18:46 |
| unRheal | BlackSalmon: Just because you can load CUDA drivers, and it has CUDA cores, people talk about min 5GB ram if you *don't* want to do any training, if you're going to use Tensorflow.. you probably want a lot more.. there's a reason my GTX 980 Ti 6GB cost $1100 when it came out, and even new online now it's in the $500 range.. and 6GB is still really not enough. unless you're using other software | 18:47 |
| dreamon | pavlos, /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq shows 4900000 .. and cpu info shows me > 4.xxGHz .. but cpu only uses 1.8GHz max | 18:47 |
| An_Onion | I am having a lot of problems getting the Ubuntu installer to see my Windows 10 install so I can dual boot. Everything is GPT, secureboot is off, but I can't get os-prober to see it at all | 18:48 |
| An_Onion | also, 5GB for Real Computing on CUDA? That's not nearly enough | 18:49 |
| An_Onion | I agree | 18:49 |
| unRheal | dreamon: wattage doesn't sound bad.. | 18:49 |
| dreamon | pavlos, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cvj7dqDVKB/ → cpu MHz: 4656.907 ??? | 18:49 |
| An_Onion | wait, cudo on nvidia, or on xeon phi? | 18:50 |
| An_Onion | cuda* | 18:50 |
| unRheal | An Onion: I know, it's just till I can buy a better card, then I'll have the dev env set up. payday is friday | 18:50 |
| gulo | I had posted this on the Ubuntu forums a couple of days ago as well, but I have a problem where some applications are not being drawn properly in my fluxbox GUI on 20.04. One example is OBS when I open it, it mirrors all of the bottom controls more than once depending on the size of the window. I have this problem in a CAD application that I use as well. How would I go about troubleshooting this? | 18:50 |
| giaco | can any of you tell me if /sbin is a symlink to /usr/sbin in your ubuntu 20.04 box or is a normal folder? | 18:50 |
| dreamon | unRheal, I bootet Windows 10 on this thinkpad .. saw 5Watt.. by doing nothing. Ok I insert a second hdd .. (2.5") but its 5 times more. | 18:51 |
| unRheal | I "think" I could even spend the $500 and SLI them together..(?) not sure.. if that'll give me 12GB? | 18:51 |
| An_Onion | anyone else had problems getting the installer or os-prober to see Win10? | 18:51 |
| An_Onion | I've done a ton of googleing, and everything I've seen I've tried | 18:52 |
| pavlos | dreamon: your cpu is 1.80GHz, I need to find a page that explains all these fields in /proc/cpuinfo | 18:52 |
| unRheal | dreamon: check how much power your HD uses, I've never looked, despite using hundreds of drives.. | 18:52 |
| dreamon | pavlos, i want to scale it down.. powersave. but dont know how. | 18:52 |
| dreamon | I didnt found out how to scale it down .. I think it running in performance mode? | 18:53 |
| pavlos | dreamon: are you on 20.04? there should be a cpufrequtils to install | 18:54 |
| dreamon | pavlos, yes 20.04 .. | 18:54 |
| dreamon | cpufreq-info shows me scaling 400 MHz - 4.90 GHz :)) | 18:56 |
| An_Onion | should I use the uefi boot area on the Windows disk? | 18:57 |
| An_Onion | Is that the problem? | 18:58 |
| unRheal | dreamon: I just looked at a couple drives lying around and they are about 5-6 watts.. | 18:59 |
| dreamon | intel_pstate Intel Core i Prozessoren Sandy Bridge and newer | 19:00 |
| dreamon | acpi-cpufreq new AMD Prozessors Athlon 64, Opteron and Phenom Serien (WIKI) | 19:00 |
| pavlos | dreamon: there is a pm-utils pkg | 19:01 |
| gulo | giaco, It is a symlink to /usr/sbin | 19:03 |
| dreamon | unRheal, | 19:03 |
| An_Onion | omfg I am completely retarded | 19:03 |
| unRheal | dreamon: depends on the volts, too.. I put a cable tester on mine, and ran an intense GPU tester (with warning they're not responsible because it may cook your card) and had my PC jump a few times to ~20Amps.. it must have been very brief as it didn't blow any fuse or the powerbar | 19:04 |
| An_Onion | you have to boot the installer in efi mode to install an efi mode os | 19:04 |
| * An_Onion bands head on desk | 19:04 | |
| dreamon | pavlos, tlp is also a tool.. but its hard to handle. there must be a way to scale it down. | 19:05 |
| giaco | gulo: thanks. Now I see a problem. In my ubuntu box, /sbin is not a simlink | 19:05 |
| gulo | giaco, You're welcome. | 19:05 |
| unRheal | my two sbin's are identical | 19:05 |
| dreamon | dreamon is rebooting | 19:08 |
| An_Onion | the installer is so much faster in efi mode ._. | 19:12 |
| giaco | do you have any idea why upgrade frm 18.04 to 20.04 took me to this /sbin that is not symlink to /usr/sbin situation? | 19:16 |
| unRheal | 20.04 is still real buggy, IMHO | 19:17 |
| pavlos | giaco: my 20.04 shows /sbin -> usr/sbin/ | 19:18 |
| giaco | pavlos: thanks for the feedback. I'm usure if I should move /sbin and symlink manually. If feels like a dangerous | 19:21 |
| shardulc | update: the audio issue was a known kernel bug. I was able to get my sound working again and posted an answer to https://askubuntu.com/questions/1243359/yet-another-no-sound-in-ubuntu-18-04 | 19:21 |
| unRheal | giaco: I think no prob.. just rename and make link.. can always kill link and rename back if stuff goes bezerk, but I think no worries | 19:23 |
| unRheal | IMHO ;) | 19:23 |
| giaco | unRheal: just did that. Trying reboot, wish me luck | 19:24 |
| NetTerminalGene | hello. is gnome animations not laggy on 20.04 with intel hd 630 gpu? | 19:24 |
| NetTerminalGene | it is laggy here on debian gnome 3.30 | 19:24 |
| NetTerminalGene | my cpu is i5 7400 | 19:25 |
| dreamon | pavlos, unRheal I started liveusb and it was only 20Watt instead of > 27Watt. and it was scalling sown to 700MHz | 19:26 |
| dreamon | scaling driver was INTEL_PSTATE | 19:27 |
| giaco | unRheal: well it went REALLY bad. Missing /sbin/init :) had to boot with init=/bin/bash and restore _sbin | 19:41 |
| giaco | now I want to figure out the differences between the two | 19:41 |
| unRheal | giaco: diffutils | 19:59 |
| giaco | unRheal: yeah I've just merged the two, they were perfectly splitted, no overlaps. Rebooting now, rewish me luck | 20:00 |
| unRheal | luck | 20:01 |
| IAEON | what version are you running? | 20:11 |
| unRheal | Linux workgroup-agi-ad 5.4.0-32-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 15 11:08:00 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 20:15 |
| giaco | unRheal: it worked out nicely | 20:19 |
| Deano59 | can someone take a look at my dmesg logs and tell me why I can't restart/shutdown without waiting like 10 minutes? I have to force press the power button! -.- | 20:21 |
| Deano59 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mnn4mkSQ4y/ | 20:21 |
| akem | Deano59, Do you see a count down when shutting it off? | 20:24 |
| Deano59 | akem: nope. just a black screen, no screen output/signal. | 20:24 |
| unRheal | You should be able to use a terminal and sudo shutdown -h now (or -r for reboot -h == halt) | 20:26 |
| Deano59 | even shutting down doesn't work -.- I try to and I can hear my hdd's turn off but that's it; system stays on. | 20:27 |
| pavlos | Deano59: can you post the /etc/fstab? something is mounted and takes long to umount | 20:28 |
| Deano59 | unRheal: shutdown -r now turns off my hdd's and system stays on too. | 20:29 |
| Deano59 | 1sec pavlos | 20:30 |
| Deano59 | pavlos: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BqnDWBB4nM/ | 20:30 |
| unRheal | wait.. your hard drives power off but your system stays on? | 20:30 |
| Deano59 | yes. | 20:31 |
| Deano59 | hdd's power off... ssd presumably stays on because the system never shuts down or restarts. | 20:31 |
| unRheal | you feel the HD's stopping, is that how you know they're powering down? | 20:31 |
| Deano59 | I can hear them turn off... | 20:31 |
| unRheal | sorry, if you're running shutdown as root (or sudo) then I have no clue, that's worked for me since I started using Linux in 92 | 20:33 |
| younder | Deano59, Which Ubuntu version do you use? | 20:33 |
| Deano59 | 18.04.4 | 20:34 |
| Deano59 | 20.04 is too buggy | 20:34 |
| gulo | Has anyone seen this problem in GUI apps before: https://pasteboard.co/J8S0uYM.png I have some apps that will duplicate their settings bars, it is a complete mirror, meaning that if I highlight something in the top setting, it also highlights it in the bottom setting. | 20:36 |
| gulo | It pretty much makes the app unusuable. Currently it is happening in OBS and Ares Commander. | 20:36 |
| younder | Deano59, This new releases usually are. I usually change with a .1 version when it is more. stable | 20:36 |
| Deano59 | Indeed. | 20:37 |
| Deano59 | I give up. | 20:37 |
| gulo | Or have any suggestions on what to Google to start off, maybe a lot file I could check? | 20:38 |
| Deano59 | Still will not shutdown or restart. Unmounted the HDDs and still nope. | 20:38 |
| pavlos | Deano59: what filesystem for B01 and B02? | 20:38 |
| Deano59 | Ext4 | 20:39 |
| pavlos | Deano59: lines 968- say it has trouble with keyring | 20:40 |
| giaco | I think I've found a bug in gnome-control-center. "nmcli c up hotspot" works, but "Turn On Wi-Fi Hotspot" is always grayed out | 20:40 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: did you try pressing esc to see behind the splash screen? | 20:40 |
| Deano59 | EriC^^: there is no splash screen | 20:42 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: it shows the text of what its doing? | 20:42 |
| Deano59 | NO... | 20:42 |
| EriC^^ | pressing esc might show stuff | 20:42 |
| Deano59 | Screen is completely off | 20:42 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: ah | 20:42 |
| Deano59 | No input or signal | 20:43 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: can you upload the /var/log/syslog? | 20:43 |
| EriC^^ | the dmesg you uploaded is only 15secs long, not very useful | 20:43 |
| Deano59 | back, what was the dir EriC^^ ? | 20:44 |
| pavlos | Deano59: to sum up: 18.04, you press shutdown, screen goes blank, system takes 10 min to turn off (with or w/o those two disk mounted | 20:44 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: cat /var/log/syslog | 20:44 |
| Dan20200525 | I have a usb drive, a working macbook, and a target pc currently running windows vista. I want to create a live linux usb drive with persistent storage that will allow me to test drive the pc as a ubuntu machine. Do I need to partition the usb drive such that there is one partition that is completely dedicated to the Ubuntu os and a second that can | 20:44 |
| Dan20200525 | be used for storage? | 20:44 |
| EriC^^ | Dan20200525: lots of live usb creators can create a persistent usb for you | 20:45 |
| unRheal | u can partition it as you desire, just give enough space for your linux part | 20:45 |
| EriC^^ | Dan20200525: if you have 2 usb's you could just install ubuntu to the other usb and get a feel for the 'real deal' | 20:45 |
| Deano59 | EriC^^: where to upload it to? | 20:46 |
| EriC^^ | e.g you could update kernels and everything as an ordinary os, just slower and more prone to fs corruption cause usb will die sooner | 20:46 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: any pastebin will do | 20:46 |
| pavlos | Deano59: cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:47 |
| Deano59 | https://termbin.com/wsxc | 20:47 |
| Dan20200525 | EriC... and unRhe... thanks for the responses! I have only one usb drive at the moment and I want to keep this as simple as possible...though I am not sure that partitioning the drive is very simple. But, am I correct in understanding that the boot disk holding ubuntu cannot also be used for storage...there would either need to be a partition or a | 20:49 |
| Dan20200525 | separate usb drive involved? | 20:49 |
| Deano59 | none of that even makes sense to me. lol | 20:49 |
| Deano59 | pavlos: yes that's even if the system actually does shutdown restart. | 20:50 |
| Deano59 | s/restart/or restart | 20:50 |
| unRheal | yikes, 1;50PM little past bedtime.. caio | 20:50 |
| younder | Deano59, The only Linux system I know that won't out of the box restart fully is a RasPI. | 20:51 |
| Deano59 | welcome to the new era then. | 20:51 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: hmm if you look at May 25 21:17:11 lubuntu systemd[1]: Stopping NordVPN Daemon.. it looks like it is shutting down | 20:52 |
| Deano59 | 21:17 was nearly an hour ago. it's 21:52 now and it's worse. | 20:52 |
| younder | EriC^^, Doesn't NordVPN only work on Windows? | 20:54 |
| pavlos | Deano59: it umounts B01 not B02 May 25 21:17:11 lubuntu systemd[1]: Unmounting /mnt/500GB01... | 20:54 |
| rud0lf | nordvpn for linux is buggy | 20:54 |
| younder | EriC^^, try unistalling NordVPN and then see if it works. | 20:55 |
| Deano59 | No younder | 20:55 |
| Deano59 | Works on all... | 20:55 |
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| Deano59 | SSH connection from a mobile also fails. I'm sitting here with a no signal screen. Ha | 20:57 |
| Deano59 | Let me try disable Nord. | 20:57 |
| pavlos | Deano59: I would suggest, comment out the 3 disks in fstab and see if it shuts/restarts normally, then add one disk at a time and test | 20:57 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: i dont know what to make of it honestly, it seems like it's shutting down at that point, then it's suddenly starting services up again, then the kernel line and 0.0 time | 20:58 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: i'd try what pavlos is suggesting, also try to shutdown/restart, making note of current time, then we can take a look at the end of the syslog and see what happened | 20:59 |
| Deano59 | Before it shuts down it says squid is waiting to stop, 5 minutes | 21:00 |
| Deano59 | Maybe that? | 21:00 |
| EriC^^ | could be, try to disable the service manually and see what happens | 21:00 |
| Deano59 | Sec | 21:00 |
| EriC^^ | although i'm thinking maybe it's some acpi problem because the screen shutting off seems odd for a hung service to cause it | 21:00 |
| Deano59 | Acpi? | 21:01 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: yeah, it's related to power, there is a kernel parameter you can use to trick the bios into thinking it's windows so it might work with that | 21:01 |
| Deano59 | How? Ha | 21:01 |
| EriC^^ | try sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | 21:02 |
| EriC^^ | take note of the latest windows version there | 21:02 |
| Deano59 | paste that again please eric^ | 21:03 |
| Deano59 | EriC^^: | 21:03 |
| EriC^^ | sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | 21:03 |
| Deano59 | what now? | 21:04 |
| EriC^^ | what's the latest windows line there | 21:04 |
| Deano59 | 2015 lol | 21:04 |
| EriC^^ | ok, type "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" | 21:04 |
| Deano59 | yeah... | 21:04 |
| pavlos | Deano59: grep TimeoutStop /etc/systemd/system.conf ... is the value 90s ? | 21:04 |
| Deano59 | yeah pavlos | 21:05 |
| Deano59 | #DefaultTimeoutStopSec=90s | 21:05 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: add "acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\"" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX | 21:06 |
| Deano59 | acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\" ? | 21:06 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 21:06 |
| Deano59 | just running update grub | 21:06 |
| Deano59 | reboot now? | 21:07 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 21:07 |
| Deano59 | Still no input | 21:08 |
| Deano59 | Damnit | 21:08 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: it'll affect the next boot up | 21:08 |
| Deano59 | Power off with the button? | 21:08 |
| EriC^^ | you could try alt+prntscrn "s" then "u" then "b" | 21:08 |
| Deano59 | Oh dear... Just a black screen now. | 21:10 |
| p0a | Hello | 21:10 |
| p0a | I have broken my mousepad and I am trying to install a browser extension to be able to use a web browser with the keyboard | 21:10 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: did you reboot fresh? | 21:11 |
| Deano59 | Powered off with the button and now the screen is on and stuck 🙈 | 21:11 |
| EriC^^ | i mean from grub etc | 21:11 |
| p0a | but I can't click the 'do you want to install this extension' dialogue | 21:11 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: ok, hold shift to get grub | 21:11 |
| Deano59 | Done | 21:12 |
| Deano59 | Now? | 21:12 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: press 'e' to edit it | 21:12 |
| Deano59 | Yep? | 21:12 |
| Deano59 | EriC^^: ^ | 21:13 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: what's the linux line look like after "ro" part? | 21:13 |
| Deano59 | Acpi_osi=! | 21:14 |
| EriC^^ | quiet splash vt.handoff=1 acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" ? | 21:14 |
| Deano59 | No | 21:15 |
| Deano59 | No VT | 21:15 |
| EriC^^ | ok, but the rest is the same? | 21:15 |
| Deano59 | Picture sec | 21:15 |
| Deano59 | https://i.postimg.cc/Ght44yjX/20200525-221632.jpg | 21:17 |
| Deano59 | EriC^^: | 21:17 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: ok, it looks right | 21:17 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: anyways, try to remove the acpi_osi stuff we added | 21:18 |
| EriC^^ | then press F10 to boot | 21:18 |
| faLUCE | hello. I have a very low wifi signal (on 18.04) . How can I fix it? | 21:18 |
| younder | faLUCE, not here. It is not a OS problem | 21:19 |
| faLUCE | younder: yes, it is. | 21:20 |
| faLUCE | because with another device I don't have that issue | 21:20 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | It's only low on ubuntu? | 21:20 |
| faLUCE | on the same router | 21:20 |
| faLUCE | InnovAnon-Inc: yes | 21:20 |
| faLUCE | I don't know where to start | 21:20 |
| younder | faLUCE, What do you mean with another device. What device? | 21:20 |
| faLUCE | younder: with my cellphone | 21:21 |
| faLUCE | my laptop is very close to the router. but the signal is low | 21:21 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | me either. I'd try looking at the wpa_supplicant configs, but I think that's more of a BSD thing. try messing with your network-manager settings | 21:21 |
| younder | faLUCE, Connectet to the Wifi or conected to Cell Network? | 21:21 |
| Deano59 | back on the desktop EriC^^ | 21:21 |
| faLUCE | younder: ? | 21:21 |
| faLUCE | It's connected to a router through wifi | 21:22 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: great, try "tail -200 /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999" | 21:22 |
| Deano59 | EriC^^: https://termbin.com/1drl | 21:23 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: thought it'd give more | 21:24 |
| Deano59 | no idea if this helps EriC^^ but when I try and use clonezilla/ubuntu mini... I have to edit and do "vga=normal" is that causing this? | 21:24 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: try "tail -600 /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999" | 21:25 |
| Deano59 | EriC^^: https://termbin.com/r1o3 | 21:25 |
| EriC^^ | i dont think so, not sure | 21:25 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: still not far back enough unfortunately | 21:27 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: try to paste the whole contents of "cat /var/log/syslog" in http://paste.ubuntu.com if possible | 21:29 |
| EriC^^ | hopefully it doesnt have a line limit like termbin | 21:29 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: or try "tail -900 /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999" that might do it and be easier | 21:30 |
| Deano59 | EriC^^: could encryption of home cause it? | 21:39 |
| Dan20200525 | Does the ubuntu iso come with any applications? I am hoping for at least a browser | 21:39 |
| Deano59 | I'm pulling at strings here | 21:39 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: i doubt | 21:39 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | depends which iso you're using. the livecd should be a full desktop environment if I remember correctly | 21:39 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: if alt+prntscrn + s then u then b, doesnt work, it means the kernel is unresponsive | 21:40 |
| Deano59 | It didn't :( | 21:41 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: either something is happening in that the kernel is becoming unresponsive, or it is actually shutting down, just not powering off/restarting at the last step, due to maybe some different acpi used by the bios | 21:41 |
| EriC^^ | i'm leaning towards the latter, as you said the hdd's stop spinning and everything is basically shut down | 21:42 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: which pc model is it exactly? | 21:42 |
| EriC^^ | Deano59: you know, i wonder if right now while it's running | 21:43 |
| Deano59 | Thanks for trying EriC^^ | 21:43 |
| EriC^^ | try pressing alt+prntscrn + s, wait a little, then "u", then "b' (to reboot) | 21:43 |
| Deano59 | Ryzen 3200g | 21:43 |
| EriC^^ | i want to see what will happen | 21:43 |
| EriC^^ | (keep holding alt+prntscrn for all 3 letters) | 21:44 |
| Deano59 | I'm installing windows right now but I'll dual boot in about an hour | 21:44 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | did bash get moved from /bin/bash to /usr/bin/bash? | 22:05 |
| leftyfb | InnovAnon-Inc: yes | 22:06 |
| InnovAnon-Inc | thanks | 22:06 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | Hrm, I've installed a package, ubuntu-defaults-builder, and can't figure out how to launch it | 22:25 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | it's command isn't it's name, and it didn't make a programs menu entry I can find | 22:26 |
| oerheks | and what did you find about that iso creator tool? | 22:28 |
| oerheks | old; maybe helpfull ; https://askubuntu.com/questions/154533/how-do-i-include-the-latest-package-updates-in-a-customized-livecd | 22:28 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | https://askubuntu.com/questions/339874/create-a-customized-ubuntu-live-usb | 22:30 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | this one mentions a graphical application that'd let me use synaptic, but the code isn't a trustworthy source and the link is dead anyways | 22:31 |
| oerheks | i see, pretty old info, uck is dead. | 22:31 |
| oerheks | nowadays there is Cubic, a more graphical tool | 22:31 |
| oerheks | https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image | 22:32 |
| oerheks | also easy to crash if you have no clue what you are doing :-D | 22:32 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | Hrm, looks like I have to use apt to add/remove/update everything? | 22:34 |
| buru | I cannot achieve to show Grub menu on boot, I have edited GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE to menu and added some seconds to GRUB_TIMEOUT without success. I added nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE thinking it was maybe a video issue at boot | 22:36 |
| jeremy31 | buru: did you run> sudo update-grub | 22:38 |
| buru | yes | 22:38 |
| jeremy31 | buru any other Linux OS installed? | 22:39 |
| buru | To avoid XY problem, whenever i boot there's a blank screen where grub menu should be | 22:39 |
| buru | Which is really long | 22:39 |
| pavlos | buru: esc or shoft does not trigger a menu? | 22:39 |
| buru | no | 22:40 |
| buru | No other linux installed, ubuntu alone | 22:40 |
| jeremy31 | buru: post URL from terminal for> cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 | 22:41 |
| artistsvoid | buru: have you tried GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet" | 22:41 |
| buru | No | 22:41 |
| pavlos | is the system up now, can you give up that grub file? | 22:42 |
| buru | yep | 22:42 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | what's the commant for apt to upgrade all upgradable packages? | 22:42 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | er update updatable | 22:43 |
| pavlos | sudo apt upgrade | 22:43 |
| buru | also 30_osprobe seems to revert timeout to 10 when it's 0 | 22:44 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | pavlos: ty | 22:47 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | Well, I already locked cubic up | 22:47 |
| buru | @jeremy31: termbin.com/a2cg | 22:47 |
| CrazyLikeAFox | I updated everything, grabbed xubuntu-restricted-extras, now it's displays the ms fonts EULA, and I can't figure out how to accept or decline | 22:48 |
| artistsvoid | buru: I can't promise but try 'splash quiet' it fixed a blank screen issue I was having | 22:49 |
| pavlos | did it pop a window, scroll down | 22:49 |
| buru | artistsvoid: gonna try tat | 22:49 |
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| jeremy31 | buru: try a GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 | 22:49 |
| buru | I tried with 20 | 22:49 |
| buru | that's not the issue | 22:49 |
| pavlos | 10 seconds is reasonable | 22:50 |
| buru | artistsvoid: nothing | 22:50 |
| CoDeAmRo | hey guys i need help | 22:50 |
| buru | Grub works | 22:51 |
| pavlos | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" and sudo update-grub | 22:51 |
| buru | Because I can select options | 22:51 |
| buru | and stop the countown pressing a key | 22:51 |
| buru | quiet splash the only thig was giving me the "UBUNTU" with violet background instead of the systemd log | 22:51 |
| pavlos | you can remove quiett so you can see the boot process | 22:52 |
| buru | the only thing it did* | 22:52 |
| CoDeAmRo | hey guys i need help | 22:52 |
| buru | but grub is still not showing | 22:52 |
| pavlos | CoDeAmRo: ask a question, then wait | 22:52 |
| artistsvoid | buru: I think I got something mixed up, sorry | 22:53 |
| buru | ok setting GURB to console did the work | 22:53 |
| buru | Of course I lost the graphical interface, but nothing I wanted in first place | 22:53 |
| buru | #GRUB_TERMINAL=console | 22:54 |
| buru | Which is weird is it's waiting 30 seconds, not respecting the GRUB_TIMEOUT i set | 22:54 |
| CoDeAmRo | i am using ubuntu for many years and its my fav os how can i reduce ram usage and speed it up little bit | 22:54 |
| artistsvoid | CoDeAmRo: a lot of things, extreme case you could use the minimal install iso, set up a lightweight Desktop environment or window manager yourself, that would help | 22:55 |
| artistsvoid | minimal ubuntu install w/ lxqt maybe takes 200 M ram after boot up | 22:55 |
| bytesafari | CoDeAmRo: You may also want to check out Lubuntu or Xubuntu for a lighter weight installation, if you don't want to install a minimal system and DE or WM | 22:56 |
| CoDeAmRo | and i could not find increase vram from bios is there a way to increase it from the os itself or a tool | 22:57 |
| Ben64 | CoDeAmRo: reduce ram usage by running less things simultaneously, you can increase your total amount of ram by going out and buying more | 22:58 |
| IAEON | what kind of ram does he need to buy | 22:59 |
| buru | Ok, this is weird but if I reset (sudo reboot) seems to set the countdown timr to 30 based on 00_header. While setting it to 0 for other cases seems to set it to 10 as of 30_os-prober | 23:01 |
| buru | Anyway, without graphic menu but it's showing now and can fix the times! THank you | 23:01 |
| Aryan | Hi | 23:09 |
| Aryan | i'm having problem with my shortcut stufffs | 23:10 |
| Aryan | can anybody help me | 23:10 |
| Aryan | when i click on them, they apears on a text editor, gedit | 23:10 |
| Aryan | i'm with ubuntu 20.04 | 23:11 |
| Aryan | what if i wanna execute the m ? | 23:11 |
| Deano59 | yo EriC^^ you still around? made some developments. ;P | 23:19 |
| Deano59 | I went through each app I had installed one by one... only two I've not installed is nordvpn and squid and shutting down/restarting is fine. | 23:20 |
| Deano59 | hdd's are also mounted too. so it has to be one of them and I'm guessing it's squid because it moans about taking 5 mins to stop the service. | 23:21 |
| oft_gegong | so is it true that newer ubuntu releases require secure_boot_on_BIOS_enabled=true? | 23:29 |
| Deano59 | oft_gegong, don't think so.... why? | 23:29 |
| oft_gegong | Deano59: because I've read people having problems when they upgrade their kernel in ubuntu | 23:30 |
| Deano59 | news to me. ;P | 23:31 |
| oft_gegong | One of the releases of ubuntu kernels were rigged with anti-secure-boot codes..I think | 23:34 |
| Deano59 | you think? | 23:37 |
| Deano59 | might want to show proof before stating stuff like that oft_gegong... | 23:38 |
| SirTalksAlot | Okay | 23:55 |
| SirTalksAlot | I need help | 23:55 |
| SirTalksAlot | Anyone here use thelounge? | 23:55 |
| SirTalksAlot | If so please pin me! | 23:55 |
| SirTalksAlot | I need help with the download | 23:56 |
| SirTalksAlot | I need help with the download | 23:57 |
| oerheks | howcome? | 23:59 |
| oerheks | https://snapcraft.io/install/thelounge/ubuntu | 23:59 |
| SirTalksAlot | It gives me the error | 23:59 |
| oerheks | after install, check out; softwarecenter > installed > theounge > permissions | 23:59 |
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