[00:00] <SirTalksAlot> Okay
[00:00] <oerheks> and seet hat page; sudo thelounge add $USER
[00:00] <oerheks> etc
[00:02] <SirTalksAlot> Okay then
[00:02] <oerheks> :-)
[01:43] <BlackSalmon> I know it's not really have to do with ubuntu but have a question
[01:44] <BlackSalmon> https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus based on this, if GT 730 is 2.1CC when it's GDDR3 *and* 128bit or GDDR3 or 128bit?
[01:54] <mullerjones> hey guys, I have a weird and specific problem I'd like to ask for help with. I'm trying to turn an old laptop whose display broke into a desktop pc by using an external display and installing ubuntu on it. The problem is I can't complete the installation process since the installer is showing stuff on the main screen, which is broken. How can I get
[01:54] <mullerjones> around this?
[01:55] <mullerjones> I've thought about using the screen reader to go through the installation and then use it to change the main display to the second one and turning the first one off, but I'm terrible at using it. I thought I could use the terminal as I managed to make it show up on the second screen but I couldn't figure out how to finish the installation through
[01:55] <mullerjones> it
[01:56] <mullerjones> I also tried some shortcuts to change things from the first to the second display so I could see the installation window but no luck there either
[02:00] <rfm> mullerjones, if you can get the console (terminal) to show up on the second screen you should be able to run the network (mini) install image which does the install in console mode (no gui)
[02:01] <mullerjones> rfm i got the terminal to show up but how do I do that?
[02:01] <rfm> mullerjones, download the mini install image and boot that instead of the full live installer
[02:04] <mullerjones> @rfm
[02:04] <mullerjones> rfm gonna try it, thanks
[02:07] <rfm> mullerjones, good luck; I can't find the 20.04 mini cd/network installer, but this page has the 18.04  one: https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[02:10] <mullerjones> rfm I found that one, I'm making the USB stick to try installing it
[02:10] <mullerjones> how do I upgrade it later?
[02:16] <fevix> I've set up a network folder on my UBuntu computer and successfully accessed it from one Windows device, however no other Windows devices can even see the Ubuntu machine. All four devices (My Ubuntu, my Windows that can access, and the two Windows that can't even see it) are on the same network.
[02:17] <fevix> Is there some limit to only one user at a time? If so, how can I raise this? Is it because I'm currently uploading to the drive?
[02:24] <fevix> Anyone?
[02:24] <fevix> Literally any and all help is appreciated
[02:38] <bytesafari> fevix: It sounds like it could be an issue with your windows machines. Make sure you have sharing and discovery on
[03:29] <gulo> I had posted this on the Ubuntu forums a couple of days ago as well, but I have a problem where some applications are not being drawn properly in my fluxbox GUI on 20.04. One example is OBS when I open it, it mirrors all of the bottom controls more than once depending on the size of the window. I have this problem in a CAD application that I use as well. How would I go about troubleshooting this?
[03:30] <specter> gulo: You'll probably want to /join #fluxbox first...
[03:32] <specter> !ubuntu
[03:33] <lestac> the journey going stable here
[03:34] <gulo> specter, Thanks, I will try in there as well. I am pretty sure it is some dependency I am missing, I just have no clue how to troubleshoot it. I think it might have to do with QT, but I don't know. I've also posted on the OBS forums to see if they have seen this issue at all.
[04:29] <bigLITTLE> How can I enable hibernation on my Ubuntu 20.4 FF
[04:47] <lestac> good night!
[05:35] <AugustusCaesar24> is there a way to download the sound effect for ubuntu so i can replace it with windows?
[05:35] <AugustusCaesar24> i hate windows alert sound when something goes wrong and love ubunutus alert sound so i wanted to download the ubuntu sound effect and put it in windows
[05:54] <rud0lf> i guess
[05:54] <rud0lf> i think it just .wav in windows / media
[05:54] <rud0lf> AugustusCaesar24:
[05:55] <AugustusCaesar24> where would i download ubuntu sound effects?
[05:55] <AugustusCaesar24> i been looking for them for a few minutes and whatever i tried i couldnt find it. kept finding how to disable them instead of download them
[05:56] <rud0lf> do you have ubuntu?
[05:56] <rud0lf> you can look then i think /usr/share/sounds
[05:56] <rud0lf> in windows 10, you can open control panel and navigate to change system sounds
[05:57] <rud0lf> AugustusCaesar24: i think there /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/
[05:57] <rud0lf> i have xUbuntu so i'm not sure of gnome version
[05:57] <AugustusCaesar24> ok thank you
[05:57] <rud0lf> you're welcome
[06:15] <ocean> AugustusCaesar24: https://www.gnome-look.org/ should have sounds, and themes with sounds
[06:16] <AugustusCaesar24> awesome! thank you!
[06:17] <ocean> AugustusCaesar24: hmm, it seems that searching that site is a bit of a pain actually. Here is an example (including a howto install) https://www.debugpoint.com/2018/08/how-install-sound-themes-ubuntu-linux/ (have not personally read/used it)
[06:18] <ken_q> I'm unable to locate a package that says it's there. I'ved apt update the system with still no avail. Any suggestions?
[06:18] <ocean> ken_q: little bit more detail would help. What package, what error message?
[06:18] <AugustusCaesar24> apt update and apt upgrade and dist-upgrade usually does all the updates
[06:19] <ken_q> ocean: "E: Unable to locate package libsdl2"
[06:19] <AugustusCaesar24> i found this that i thought was similar to ubuntu and i thought thats the closest ill get   https://freesound.org/people/ecfike/sounds/135125/
[06:20] <ocean> !info libsdl2
[06:20] <ocean> ken_q: what do you mean saying "a package that says it's there"
[06:21] <ken_q> ocean, there is also one called libsdl2-2.0-0 that is identical to libsdl2 ..... but i get error when trying to compile.
[06:21] <ken_q> ocean:  the package is coming up in the package list with apropas
[06:22] <ken_q> nvm doesn't come up with apropos
[06:22] <ocean> !info libsdl2.2
[06:23] <ocean> So it is in the universe repo. If you wish to install, you should have universe enabled
[06:23] <ken_q> ocean:  i have it installed
[06:52] <raddy> Hello
[06:52] <raddy> What is the correct way to find out the uncompressed size of gunzip files in GB
[06:53] <raddy> zcat and gzip -l shows different sizes, what is the reason ?
[06:55] <m1dn1ght5un> Hi. I've just installed 20.4 but am unable to set resolution higher than 1366x768. I have the proprietary nvidia driver installed. Anyone know what I'm missing?
[07:01] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: your laptops display or a DVI/HDMI connected external monitor?
[07:06] <AnimalFarmPig> Hey guys, this is kind of a weird question-- how do I send email with a 20.04 desktop install? I see that via "Online Accounts" I can link to a gmail account and specify to use it for mail; however, I don't see a way to check or compose mail. Since I don't see Evolution or Thunderbird installed, I assumed that they had been replaced with some gnome core application. Was I wrong, and 20.04 just doesn't ship with a mail client?
[07:08] <AnimalFarmPig> I'm not averse to installing an email client. It's just that I never particularly liked Evolution or Thunderbird, so if there's some new client that ships with 20.04, I would love to give it a try. And, if there isn't something new, I find it kind of weird to ship the OS without an email client.
[07:09] <ThinkT510> AnimalFarmPig: thunderbird is installed by default
[07:09] <ThinkT510> AnimalFarmPig: as for gmail you'd open a browser to use it
[07:11] <AnimalFarmPig> hmm... weird, I think I did a standard desktop install, but Thunderbird didn't get pulled in. That solves that mystery. Thanks.
[07:14] <AnimalFarmPig> re: gmail, I mentioned that mail account because when I try to connect to my normal imap email account via "Online Accounts" menu, it tells me "HTTP proxy connection not allowed". I can clearly see the CONNECT to my proxy server and data flowing through, but :shrug: I guess it doesn't want to work with a proxy in the middle
[07:20] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, It's a laptop - Acer F15
[07:21] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: are you chatting from the laptop now
[07:22] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, Yep
[07:22] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[07:23] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: follow instruction in terminal to install if it appears
[07:23] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link..say so
[07:25] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, thanks - installing now
[07:27] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, https://termbin.com/gmj6
[07:33] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: in terminal>    xrandr|nc termbin.com 9999
[07:34] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, https://termbin.com/engx
[07:37] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: in terminal>    nvidia-smi|nc termbin.com 9999
[07:38] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, https://termbin.com/01vk
[07:41] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: you will need to create a modeline for 1080
[07:42] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: i'll see if i can find a guide or instructions for you
[07:42] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, thank you - I appreciate it.
[07:43] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[07:44] <chull>  Does anyone know how to find Thunderbird support?
[07:45] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, so 'xrandr --addmode S-video 1920x1080' would be the correct command?
[07:50] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: you don't have a physical "S-video" connector/interface on your laptop so you would only want to use interfaces that show up in xrandr output
[07:50] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: eDP in your case, or HDMI
[07:52] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: your xrandr https://termbin.com/engx
[07:52] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: it shows eDP-1-1 connected primary 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 194mm
[07:53] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: eDP-1-1
[07:54] <Aryan> Hi
[07:54] <Aryan> /etc/network/interfaces is not in ubuntu 20.04
[07:55] <Aryan> how can i configure my interfaces
[07:55] <Aryan>  ?
[07:56] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, Success!
[07:57] <m1dn1ght5un> tatertots, Might need to resize the font in my chat client now - much smaller :).Thank you very much for your help
[08:00] <ThinkT510> chull: tried here?: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/thunderbird
[08:03] <tatertots> m1dn1ght5un: no problem
[08:13] <eliyahuTBR> hey guy. I upgraded to LTS a couple of days after it was released and my computer hasn't been happy since. I want to do a fresh install from a flash drive. how can I compile a list of all the programs/packages I have installed so I can reinstall them easily after I do a new install? Also a good FAQ about installing from a flash draive would be appreciated.
[08:15] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: you can dd the iso to the usb stick to create a bootable usb to install from. you need to be certain you select the correct device.
[08:17] <eliyahuTBR> thanks ThinkT510
[08:17] <eliyahuTBR> How do I get a list of my current installed programs?
[08:19] <illuminated> is there a cli way to force your computer to turn off the monitor for like power save?
[08:19] <ThinkT510> !clone | eliyahuTBR
[08:22] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: for the dd command: "sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdc status=progress" < make absolutely sure /dev/sdc is the usb stick
[08:23] <btp> ^ only make that mistake once though
[08:24] <ThinkT510> backups are always prudent
[08:26] <akik> lsblk -o +TRAN <- that would show usb
[08:28] <eliyahuTBR> i'm using the gnome make startup disk GUI
[08:30] <eliyahuTBR> i'm using the gnome make startup disk GUI
[08:37] <eliyahuTBR> should i be worried https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mvk42RH2p9/ ?
[08:41] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: what is the output of "sudo apt-get update"?
[08:45] <eliyahuTBR> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pDsH7kCBfD/
[08:45] <eliyahuTBR> i ended up creating a backup w/o the propriatry (spelling) packages
[08:46] <eliyahuTBR> I can manually install zoom
[08:52] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: this upgrade was from 18.04 to 20.04?
[08:52] <eliyahuTBR> yup
[08:52] <eliyahuTBR> broke my sound and half the time when I boot I get grub
[08:53] <eliyahuTBR> i've spent hours and hours trying to fix my sound
[08:54] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: some packages are snaps by default in 20.04 so you could try: "sudo snap refresh" and see if that updates anything
[08:54] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: i think that may be why there are gnome mismatches
[08:55] <StatelessCat> Hi guys
[08:56] <eliyahuTBR> trying that Think.
[08:56] <eliyahuTBR> hey stateless
[08:56] <akik> eliyahuTBR: is that a dell computer?
[08:56] <eliyahuTBR> ah oh. how did you know that akik?
[08:56] <akik> eliyahuTBR: you have some dell packages installed. i think they have their own repository for those
[08:57] <eliyahuTBR> sudo snap refresh - error: cannot communicate with server: timeout exceeded while waiting for response
[08:57] <bird_icbm> why is x11 recognized as bad as internet explorer
[08:57] <ThinkT510> there are several oem packages in the paste
[08:57] <akik> bird_icbm: it's not
[08:57] <eliyahuTBR> think, how can I differriante that?
[08:57] <eliyahuTBR> thos
[08:57] <eliyahuTBR> e
[08:58] <bird_icbm> it might be because they have x11 colors in common
[08:58] <bird_icbm> alice blue
[08:59] <eliyahuTBR> @think https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4NcPfDwsGw/
[08:59] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: sounds like what akik said, they have a repo that was set up with 18.04 and when you upgraded to 20.04 that repo got removed. I'm guessing you bought the computer from Dell with 18.04 installed?
[09:00] <eliyahuTBR> exactly
[09:00] <bird_icbm> one has to question which is more evil, x11 drawing functions or winos drawing functions'
[09:00] <eliyahuTBR> let me google 20.4 dell repository
[09:02] <eliyahuTBR> not the first person to deal with this
[09:05] <ThinkT510> bird_icbm: do you have a support question?
[09:05] <zmagii> What is the difference between $EDITOR and $PAGER?
[09:19] <kieto> Hi! I was wondering, what software is better to run windows 10 on a VM in ubuntu?
[09:21] <eliyahuTBR> so guys, seeing as my system is messed up, do you recommend a new LTS install OR should I install 18.04 (or whatever) and leave the dell respository?
[09:21] <lapion> Hello, has anyone alse been having abnormally show ntfs wrting seepds with long pauses ?
[09:21] <lapion> speeds even
[09:24] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: a fresh 20.04 install would be best i reckon
[09:24] <eliyahuTBR> thats my gut call also
[09:24] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: the most important things you may want to back up are settings in your home directory
[09:26] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: i tend to have a separate storage partition for files so all i have to do is make sure it's mounted on a new install so the only thing i need to worry about is anything in the downloads folder and any settings from applications
[09:28] <eliyahuTBR> I'm using Déjà Dup Backup Tool to backup everything to the cloud
[09:29] <ThinkT510> eliyahuTBR: that is another way to do it
[09:30] <eliyahuTBR> i'm less technical, more GUI. However, I do like learning how to do things from the command line. It feels more authentic
[09:30] <lapion> I just have a separate partition for the home dir
[09:31] <lapion> And I make a backup of the system partition and of course use apt-clone and then always do upgrades
[09:32] <no-n> Hi. I'm thinking of getting a GT 1030 graphics card. Does Ubuntu 20.04 support this gpu well, or should I look at an alternative?
[09:33] <lapion> It's supported in nouveau and as a blob from nvidia i guess..
[09:34] <no-n> all right, thanks
[09:35] <lapion> I have been folding at home with a gtx 560 and a gtx 650
[09:36] <no-n> :)
[09:36] <lapion> The 560 is much faster then the 650..
[09:39] <lapion> I wonder if the 560 is faster then the 1030..
[09:42] <lapion> no-n,  google amd-radeon-rx-560-vs-nvidia-geforce-gt-1030-ddr4 and select translate page if you cannot read german..
[09:42] <lapion> the 560 scores 51 while the 1030 score 41
[09:45] <miguel2013> what app can I use in ubuntu mate to check if a process is copying files to my sd card? I just cached downloaded 1GB using steam downloaindg csgo and my sd card destition of installation got really slow. I wanna know if steam still copying files to it
[09:46] <akik> miguel2013: iotop maybe
[09:48] <miguel2013> akik: yea that did it
[09:55] <tatertots> the GT 1030 is kinda weak...it has DDR4 memory where mainstream cards have DDR5 or even DDR6
[09:56] <no-n> there's a GDDR5 and a DDR4 version
[09:57] <tatertots> nvidia wanted to sell the silicone that didn't pass QA so that gave birth to the gt 1030
[09:58] <tatertots> if a 1030 is all you can afford it's fine but if you can afford better...get better
[10:00] <no-n> it's all i can afford *for now*
[10:00] <mohnish> Hi, after I installed nvidia graphics driver 340.107, and rebooted, the resolution of the tty sessions and the ubuntu logo was decreased, this is how it looks now https://imgur.com/a/2e5m5oG but the resolution of my x session, that is my DE, appears fine
[10:00] <no-n> I will get something better sooner or later
[10:00] <no-n> maybe I should just wait idk :)
[10:01] <mohnish> How can I get their resolution back to normal? as it appeared in the live cd of ubuntu? I'm using ubuntu MATE 19.10
[10:01] <tatertots> stop using the nvidia driver..it'll return to how it was before
[10:02] <mohnish> tatertots:  but it offers better 3d and 2d acceleration than nouveau
[10:02] <tatertots> but you care more about a logo and font so..
[10:03] <mohnish> No, I never said that, but I'd really prefer if it gets back to.normal
[10:04] <mohnish> *to normal
[10:04] <tatertots> normal was using nouveau ..you can't have both
[10:04] <mohnish> I know I can't have both, but can't I change to resolution???
[10:04] <mohnish> of the logo and the tty session?
[10:08] <mohnish> is installing nouveau the only way??
[10:08] <akik> mohnish: you can affect the virtual console resolution with video= kernel parameter
[10:09] <akik> mohnish: for example i have a 1920x1080 display but i can set video=640x480-16 and get a lower resolution
[10:09] <mohnish> oh, okay. How do I edit that?
[10:11] <akik> mohnish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup "Configuring GRUB 2"
[10:11] <akik> lol that page mentions "Administrator"
[10:11] <mohnish> Thanks akik , I'll see if that works
[10:12] <akik> mohnish: for the login screen, you can probably change the resolution by writing a xorg config snippet but that's more difficult
[10:13] <mohnish> no, the login screen works fine
[10:13] <mohnish> its just the logo, and tty sessions
[10:19] <mohnish> akik:  thanks, I managed to change it to a higher value :)
[10:20] <akik> mohnish: i tested it on my laptop and it wasn't consistent
[10:20] <mohnish> oh
[10:20] <akik> mohnish: during boot the resolution changed but after boot i get the lower resolution
[10:20] <mohnish> let me shut down and see
[10:22] <mohnish> akik:  It works fine for me
[10:22] <mohnish> even after the boot
[10:23] <akik> good
[10:23] <mohnish> Thanks :)
[10:27] <james_brown> i was sent this link "https://some-website/download-params?token=xtncgRSyrLWq&email=some.email%40gmail.com" which contains a file I that I need to download on my Ubuntu server machine.  When I use curl, im getting this error:  {"id":"missing_request","status":400,"title":"Bad request","detail":"Request body is missing mandatory parts."}.     I
[10:27] <james_brown> guess it has to do with the token?
[10:32] <james_brown> anyone?
[10:34] <ajrs> How do I disable root login from ssh?
[10:34] <Deano59> how can I install a package from focal on bionic but make sure nothing else gets upgraded?
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> !mix | Deano59
[10:50] <Deano59> lol k
[11:05] <Deano59> lotuspsychje, do you know all ubottu's commands? lmao
[11:05] <Deano59> !mix | lotuspsychje
[11:05] <Deano59> hahahaha
[11:06] <Deano59> I hate you, ubottu.
[11:12] <legreffier> Deano59: be careful, i know his dad :P
[11:24] <zmagii> How is vim-nox different from vim?
[11:24] <zmagii> I mean from "VIM Huge", the one you get with sudo apt install vim on Ubuntu.
[11:25] <ajrs> google it
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | zmagii
[11:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:33] <doomlist3> i installed gnome-software-plugin-flatpak now how to lauch flatpak GUI?
[11:47] <deltreey> on ubuntu 20.04, I am having a lot of trouble getting virtualbox to work with secure-boot enabled.  Any tips?  I came across this: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=91160 but he seems to have more of it working than I do because I'm getting vboxconfig command not found
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> deltreey: did apt give you errors while installing virtualbox?
[11:50] <deltreey> no
[11:51] <deltreey> and I have tried installing it via apt and via the snap store
[11:51] <deltreey> no difference
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> deltreey: did you reboot after install?
[11:52] <deltreey> no, let me try that
[11:55] <deltreey> no dice
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> deltreey: could you pastebin your dmesg please
[11:57] <deltreey> how much of it?
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> all please
[11:59] <deltreey> https://pastebin.com/PD3jFFjT
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> deltreey: seems like you are nouveau, not sure if related
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> deltreey: secureboot enabled 'can' influence some hardware components, that might perhaps influence virtualbox too
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> deltreey: did you try if it works with secureboot off?
[12:05] <ioria> deltreey,  try  to ' apt install --reinstall virtualbox-dkms  ' and restart   (might be another Lockdown: modprobe: unsigned module loading is restricted issue)
[12:07] <ajrs> apt install anarchism doesn't work, says restricted by government
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> ajrs: lets keep the bad jokes out please
[12:10]  * DocMors ajrs forgot sudo
[12:12] <DocMors> wasn't there an botto command to show packages or better their content?
[12:12]  * DocMors buys another u
[12:20] <FManTropyx> ubottu, will you be my pal?
[12:20] <FManTropyx> I see... well, I tried
[12:27] <deltreey> reinstalling virtualbox-dkms worked.  I guess I must've failed to correctly enroll the MOK for my secureboot
[12:57] <raub> So I am trying to install ubuntu server in a supermicro box. Using its web ipmi interface, I mounted the iso image.
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> raub: check #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers
[13:25] <goddard> the gnome applications menu is messed up with its little popup boxes
[13:25] <feodoran> Is it intended that a "minimal installation" of ubuntu first installs everything and then removes a whole bunch of packages? What is the point of this?
[13:25] <goddard> it cuts off the last line icon text
[13:25] <goddard> should let you scroll down about 10 pixels more
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> goddard: this is not the complaints channel, keep it support related please
[13:56] <ballin> do you need to forward ports for ssh use im getting the following error and have got ufw enabled with defaults block incoming allow outgoing (ufw enable)
[14:13] <Hugh> Good afternoon
[14:15] <Hugh> I've got a weird 'lag' issue with lirc_dev / rc-core, not sure where to direct the question.
[14:20] <gulo> I had posted this on the Ubuntu forums a couple of days ago as well, but I have a problem where some applications are not being drawn properly in my fluxbox GUI on 20.04. One example is OBS when I open it, it mirrors all of the bottom controls more than once depending on the size of the window. I have this problem in a CAD application that I use as well. How would I go about troubleshooting this?
[14:20] <gulo> Here is a link to an image of what is happening: https://pasteboard.co/J8S0uYM.png
[14:23] <Hugh> @gulo does it continue to 'mirror' the controls when you make changes, or are the upper controls 'stuck' like a screenshot of what they were at that time?
[14:24] <gulo> Hugh, It mirrors the controls, so if I highlight Start Recording on the top controls section, it highlights it on the bottom section. If I go full screen it starts to create a 3 set of controls.
[14:25] <gulo> So far it makes the applications unusable, as the mouse is never where it is supposed to be in the app.
[14:26] <Hugh> That's pretty weird. I'm not an Ubuntu representative, but IME I'd suspect a compositor or driver bug. Are you using a discrete GPU, e.g. Nvidia/AMD?
[14:26] <wodencafe> Sorry that CTCP-VERSION was an accident Hugh.
[14:26] <Hugh> np wodencafe, if we outlawed curiosity the world would be in a pretty sad place!
[14:28] <wodencafe> It was just me being barely awake, accidentally right clicking you and then accidentally clicking version instead of clicking away from the context menu.
[14:28] <wodencafe> :P
[14:28] <Hugh> Yeah, sure! I bet you were doing a whois ;)
[14:28] <gulo> Hugh, I have an nvidia 1080 TI and I am using the nvidia-driver. I also tried it without the nvidia driver installed, and I had the same problem.
[14:29] <wodencafe> :P
[14:29] <ioria> gulo, does it happens only on fluxbox ? have you tried another wm ?
[14:30] <Hugh> Good question. If you don't want anything heavyweight you could install lxde, it uninstalls pretty cleanly too.
[14:30] <gulo> I haven't installed another WM to try yet. But I am able to get it to work on my exact same build inside a VM on this computer. I use Ansible for my install, so I create a bunch of identical VMs on my computer for different tasks.
[14:31] <gulo> Inside those VM's I do not have the problem that I have on my main desktop.
[14:32] <gulo> So I think that it is related to my graphics driver, but I'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting.
[14:32] <Hugh> So you need to change what you're doing on your main desktop by trying a different wm in the first instance
[14:32] <gulo> I would have to install and configure another WM. I am running Ubuntu mini, so it's pretty empty.
[14:33] <Hugh> sudo apt install lxde
[14:33] <Hugh> not that hard
[14:34] <gulo> Okay, give me a sec, let me try that.
[14:35] <dirtwash> anyone know when search in resolv.conf gets ignored?
[14:37] <Minall> Hello Ubuntu community!
[14:37] <Hugh> Hello
[14:38] <Minall> I want to test the latest Ubuntu 20,04, and use it as my general desktop for playing and programming, I already tried it but came back to windows 10, however, I do want to use Ubuntu again, here are my questions:i
[14:39] <Minall> 1 - The gaming performance in windows 10 is better than on Ubuntu, there's a difference of 15 fps at least and stability... Is there another driver I can install on Ubuntu for better performance on Intel HD graphics?
[14:39] <Minall> 2 - In what is ubuntu faster of better than windows 10 than you can tell personally?
[14:39] <Hugh> 1 - Nope, you're going to have to invest in a discrete GPU.
[14:40] <Minall> 3 - Does Ubuntu have disk encryption?
[14:40] <Minall> Hugh What do you mean by a discrete GPU?
[14:40] <Hugh> An Nvidia or AMD card.
[14:41] <FurretUber> The Chromium browser no longer updates on 18.04?
[14:41] <Hugh> I've got a GT 710 in our HTPC £28 on Amazon
[14:42] <Hugh> 3 - Yes, Ubuntu has FDE.
[14:43] <Hugh> 2 - The easy answer is It Depends. And unfortunately It Depends on how the software is coded (and what it does) and whether it can take advantage of the Linux kernel's superior scheduler, disk cache, and so forth. In most cases it probably won't be noticably faster.
[14:45] <Minall> Hugh Why do u personally use Ubuntu instead of other like Manjaro, Arch or like, Solus?
[14:45] <Minall> 1 - The problem is that, this is my main laptop, since it's a laptop, I can't upgrade to another graphics card
[14:45] <TheFu> FurretUber, Chromium browser has changed to snap packages for distribution.  Use the snap install command.
[14:45] <Hugh> Because Ubuntu is well supported by "non-free" proprietary vendors, like Nvidia, AMD, Steam, even Microsoft (since they partnered with Canonical)
[14:47] <TheFu> Minall, I use Ubuntu for new-enough, but not bleeding-edge, stable code. Did my bleeding edge time in the 1990s.
[14:47] <Hugh> Bleeding is what you'll be doing from your ears if you try to use the latest latest latest. I remember that one time there was a bug in the kernel that silently ate BTRFS filesystems, including mine.
[14:48] <TheFu> UbuntuForums has this question asked and answered probably 50 times.
[14:48] <Minall> Hugh Lol
[14:48] <Hugh> TheFu we get it all the time on the LinuxGaming FB group too. Which one is "best" for gaming? Well IMO, the most supported.
[14:48] <Minall> TheFu Right... I'll keep gathering more information about Ubuntu... I still don't know why is 'hated
[14:48] <Minall> in the community
[14:49] <TheFu> Ubuntu isn't hated, but it isn't the best answer for all uses either.
[14:49] <Minall> Hugh Then, the best for gaming is windows 10, since It is best supported... However, we don't have much freedom here in Windows 10
[14:49] <TheFu> Pick the right tool, for the right job.
[14:49] <Minall> I'll hop by the forums and see what I can get... Thanks!
[14:49] <Hugh> Yeah but that answer's not appropriate for a group titled Linux Gaming...
[14:50] <TheFu> Minall, if you ask that same question, it will be put into "reoccurring discussions" pretty quickly.
[14:50] <Hugh> Minall you're probably going to be stuck with poor gaming performance unless you get a new machine. I'm using a 5 year old laptop, but it's got a GPU. Intel code the drivers for the Linux kernel (so it's the best you're going to get) but they don't build their graphics chipsets for gaming, so they also don't optimise for it.
[14:51] <Minall> Hugh I do play for time to timie, but it's not all, I think I care more about being comfortable with my desktop
[14:51] <TheFu> A $350 desktop can provide amazing performance. Then add whatever GPU level you want.
[14:51] <TheFu> Plus, a desktop can be upgraded fairly easily when sales happen, unlike most laptops.
[14:51] <Minall> Makes senses
[14:52] <TheFu> My laptop is a minimal system with the main goal being a remote system into my real computers at home or work over the internet.
[14:52] <Hugh> Personally, I left Windows 10 about 3 or 4 years ago because: 1. I hate Cortana and MS seem to have built integral bits of Windows with dependencies on it, 2. I don't want all the bloatware, especially Windows Store, 3. I installed updates once and Candy Crush Saga had been installed - that's NOT COOL, 4. The final straw was an update asking if I wanted Targeted or Non-Targeted advertising.
[14:53] <TheFu> Hugh, I've never touched Win8 or later.  With Win7, rather than accept the EULA which was full of not-so-nice additions, we disconnected it from the internet, stopped patching.  That's at home.
[14:54] <TheFu> If you have to work and use Windows there, chances are you don't have an choice.
[14:54] <Minall> Hugh: Yep, its all about advertising here in windows 10, they even ask me to ave a personal ID that will ''allow them'' to have better advertising for me
[14:54] <Hugh> Yeah, that also was on my Not Cool list. I don't want a Microsoft account, I shouldn't need one to log in to my "Personal" computer.
[14:55] <Minall> I do have to work with some word documents but, that I cam make it live in microsoft like wordpad, or libreoffice
[14:55] <sruli> wahts microsoft?
[14:55] <Hugh> TheFu professionally I have to touch Windows but I try to keep my distance.
[14:56] <Minall> The compatibility is the best of it, but I have like outlook, skype and cortana in the background, which I don't want... They don't give much performance problems but, not nice
[14:56] <TheFu> Minall, for me, it was the EULA saying they could look at your storage or connected storage and might report you to law enforcement. I've not had an MSFT accounts. My small business used to have an MSDN Universal subscription, but that was to help clients, not for our use.
[14:56] <Minall> sruli lol
[14:56] <sruli> whats an EULA?
[14:56] <Hugh> Oh yeah, also adverts on the lockscreen when you select the slideshow type. I like the slideshow but I hate the ads.
[14:56] <sruli> am i in the wrong channel?
[14:56] <Minall> sruli Like the license
[14:56] <Hugh> sruli unless you're a hardcore Free Software fanatic, you're still going to have EULAs...
[14:57] <Minall> I just hop into Ubuntu, work a little there, and if I don't like the desktop I can just change it
[14:57] <sruli> Hugh, dont recall the last time i had to "accept"
[14:57] <TheFu> F/LOSS all have licenses too - and we are expected to follow them. Legally mandated, actually.
[14:57] <Hugh> sruli pay more attention ;) Steam has an EULA that has to be accepted
[14:57] <sruli> i only respect licenses that respect me...
[14:57] <Hugh> (for example)
[14:57] <TheFu> By using the Linux kernel, we all "accept" the GPLv2 license.
[14:58] <sruli> whats steam ;-)
[14:58] <TheFu> If you don't. Stop using Linux kernels.
[14:58] <Minall> TheFu right... Which only says that we can use the project, but if we made any changes, to report them... Is Open Source basically
[14:58] <Minall> sruli l
[14:58] <Hugh> Well OK then, enjoy Tux Racer
[14:58] <Minall> sruli lé gaming platform
[14:59] <sruli> AFAIK GPLv2 license has nothing do do with use only with changes
[14:59] <Minall> And GPLv3 saying that everything should be free, but not thinking about open source
[14:59] <sruli> Tux racer, thats some old memories
[14:59] <TheFu> Minall, The GPL only requires sharing of changes if you distribute the code with changes.
[14:59] <FurretUber> How do I make set the managed Chromium snap? The snap is ignoring /etc/chromium-browser/managed/
[14:59] <sruli> yes, GPL license is for changes not for use
[15:00] <sruli> way off topic here
[15:00] <Hugh> FurretUber you'll probably have to uninstall and reinstall Chrome. It should do it automatically for you, but that doesn't seem to have happened for some reason.
[15:01] <TheFu> I was trying to get chromium to start yesterday and it refused.  Snap package on 20.04. My home directory is on NFS storage. Seems NFS isn't supported by snaps.
[15:02] <Hugh> NFS shouldn't matter
[15:02] <FurretUber> And the mouse cursor is messed. Which snap fixes that?
[15:02] <ogra> FurretUber, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1714244
[15:03] <TheFu> Hugh, people keep saying that, but it does. Our HOMEs are mounted at login via autofs.
[15:03] <ogra> it is being worked on ... (you'll likely be able to put stuff into /var/snap/chromium-browser/current/ soon)
[15:04] <shinobi> UFW is showing inactive but I cannot ping my machine. Is this normal?
[15:04] <ogra> TheFu, i told you before yu should go to #snappy or https://forum.snapcraft.io ... just complaining in the support channel for the distro wont help :)
[15:04] <FurretUber> This bug was known since 2017 and nothing was done yet, but the transition was done?
[15:06] <TheFu> ogra, not intending to complain. A question above was asked about the Chromium snap. Thought it might be relevant, but don't really understand what "make set the managed Chromium snap" means.
[15:07] <ogra> you can drop stuff into /etc/chroimum usually
[15:07] <ogra> and indeed the snap wont have access to that dir by default
[15:08] <ogra> (a fix is relatively trivial (simply having the app look at /var(snap/<snapname>/current instead), but has not been implemented)
[15:08] <FurretUber> Is the chromium-ffmpeg snap required to make video playback work in the Chromium snap?
[15:09] <ogra> no
[15:09] <TeleGhost> Which software is good for video editing?
[15:09] <ogra> that snap is for *other* browsers to have the same codecs available if they want to ... chromium includes it
[15:10] <TeleGhost> and simple to install?
[15:11] <BootScout> hello I just bought a domain name and I would like to use it for this program: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Network_Settings I followed those indications but seem to be very old moreover they don't explain how to use the domain but only the dyndns trick...could please someone help me?
[15:11] <Hugh> TeleGhost a friend of mine uses Olive which is available on flathub
[15:11] <FurretUber> What is the package that provides the mouse cursor theme? Chromium has a black normal cursor and a strange left pointing hand on links
[15:12] <TeleGhost> Hugh, thanks.
[15:13] <ogra> FurretUber, gtk-common-themes ... if you want to file a bug: ... https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gtk-common-themes/issues
[15:13] <Hugh> TeleGhost she said it was easy to install and she's not a nerd, so it probably is.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> TeleGhost, or check this site for which app suits your needs https://ubuntufy.com/2018/08/28/top-video-editing-software-ubuntu-1804/
[15:13] <FurretUber> It seems that package isn't installed
[15:14] <ogra> cant be ... its auto-installed by chromium normally
[15:15] <ogra> check with: snap list|grep themes
[15:16] <FurretUber> It has gtk-common-themes and gtk2-common-themes
[15:17] <ogra> righ, so they are installed (chromium wouldnt run without it installed anyway ... snapd cares for pulling it in)
[15:21] <FurretUber> I think I found the problem
[15:25] <ogra> for the chroimum snap that is gtk-common-themes as i said above
[15:25] <ogra> err, oops
[15:25] <ogra> ignore me 😛
[15:25] <FurretUber> Yes, I found it. If I set the default cursor theme, it uses that strange cursor
[15:25] <TeleGhost> BluesKaj, I installed ShotCut.
[15:25] <FurretUber> But if I set DMZ (White), which is the same as the default, then the snap uses DMZ (White) too
[15:26] <ogra> FurretUber, then most likely the cursor theme you use isnt included in the themes snap ...
[15:26] <FurretUber> It is, but it doesn't find it if I let "default" as the chosen option
[15:27] <ogra> ah, sounds like a bug to me
[15:27] <BluesKaj> TeleGhost, ok good, hope it works for you
[15:28] <FurretUber> Let me see if it affects 20.04
[15:29] <ogra> doesnt for me
[15:29] <ansivirus> I've got a Dell XPS 13 7390 Developers Edition with Ubuntu 18.04. This morning it updated the kernel to 4.15.0-1082-oem and wifi adapter no longer shows. i booted to 4.15.0-1081-oem and it works just fine. Any suggestions?
[15:29] <ogra> (but IIRC 20.04 doesnt use the "default" name anymore but points straight to "Yaru")
[15:30] <ogra> ansivirus, try #ubuntu-kernel ... sounds like a regression they missed
[15:31] <FurretUber> If I set to default, it also makes the mouse look strange on 20.04
[15:31] <ansivirus> ogra, thanks. Will try there
[15:31] <FurretUber> I did this test on Xfce
[15:31] <ogra> ah
[15:32] <ogra> it works fine with the default install (GNOME)
[15:33] <FurretUber> I don't know what is set on a clea Xubuntuu 20.04 install, as this /home is here since 14.04 😅
[15:33] <ogra> haha
[15:35] <FurretUber> On Xfce, the mouse theme is set in the file ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml
[15:35] <FurretUber> I should start a live session and see how it's set normally
[15:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to setup a jupyter service without creating a virtual environment.
[15:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am sligtly confused.
[15:39] <stonks7903> quit
[15:40]  * mgedmin is interested in ToAruShiroiNeko's situation
[15:42] <nbusrone> Does anyone know which application can clone or image an OS in other 2nd partition sda2 while running Ubuntu OS at sda1 ? or I can just dd into image ?
[15:44] <mgedmin> you can dd into a file (be sure to specify a block size with bs=1M or something; dd is slow when it uses the default block size of 512 bytes)
[15:45] <Hugh> mgedmin, I think he's talking about a shadow-copy of the live FS
[15:45] <Hugh> You'd want at least to mount it rw first
[15:46] <Hugh> Sorry, ro
[15:50] <echoSMILE> Some days ago the message appears to update from 19.x to 20.x but I did remind me later. How do I do it manually ?
[15:51] <nbusrone> mgedmin , Hugh : Actually I had an ubuntu OS on other sdc partition , I plan to convert it into virtual p2v. I was thinking of an easy way such as even tar.bz2 the whole partition then paste it at a created .Vdi VM.
[15:51] <nbusrone> mgedmin , Hugh : not sure it works
[15:51] <Hugh> nbusrone, you can point at VM at a physical partition
[15:51] <Hugh> *physical disk
[15:51] <Hugh> You'll want to dd the whole disk if you want to use the OS in a VM
[15:52] <ogra> ToAruShiroiNeko, use the snap https://snapcraft.io/jupyter
[15:52] <Hugh> If you're using virt-manager you'd just enter /dev/sdc as the storage device path
[15:53] <Hugh> ("Select or create custom storage" when adding the device)
[15:54] <nbusrone> Hugh : I want to free some space from the HD , so old OS like 12.04 , 14.04 will be likely clone and convert into VM so if I some application not develop on newer OS , I can use VM to run it again.
[15:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> let me check that. All I want is for jupyter to start when the ubuntu server starts
[15:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I do not wish to deal with a virtual environment.
[15:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> all I need is a service to start jupyter.
[15:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I already installed it with apt-get
[15:56] <nbusrone> Hugh : remove those old OS free HD space and convert to VM or .vdi , save at external hard disk the vdi.
[15:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> is there a simple way to do this? I am really confused.
[15:56] <Hugh> dd will just give you a raw image, you'll need some other software to convert to vdi
[15:56] <ogra> ToAruShiroiNeko, then read up about how to create systemd units
[15:56] <ToAruShiroiNeko> docs force virtual environment and I do not want to deal with it
[15:56] <Hugh> But yeah, if you unmount /dev/sdc you can just dd it into a file
[15:57] <Hugh> I did it with Windows and had SMB shares between guest and host.
[15:58] <Hugh> (You could dd it while it's mounted, but why?)
[15:58] <mgedmin> ToAruShiroiNeko: which docs are you talking about?
[15:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Ah, I found one.
[15:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> https://naysan.ca/2019/09/07/jupyter-notebook-as-a-service-on-ubuntu-18-04-with-python-3/
[15:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> probably I can achieve what I want by following this.
[15:59] <nbusrone> Hugh : what is dd extension ?
[15:59] <Hugh> nbusrone, what do you mean?
[15:59] <mgedmin> ToAruShiroiNeko: you can adapt it to not use a virtual environment; all that'll change is the ExecStart= line in the jupyter.service file
[15:59] <nbusrone> Hugh : I tested in VM if the raw image is in .aa or .img , using clonezilla able to restore into VM.
[16:00] <mgedmin> ToAruShiroiNeko: all you need is ExecStart=/usr/bin/jupyter-notebook --notebook-dir=/home/naysan/my-notebooks
[16:00] <Hugh> nbusrone, at this point I have no clue what you're talking about. All you need to do is clone the disk using dd (dd if=/dev/sdc of=~/newimage.img bs=1M status=progress) and then attach that new image to a new VM.
[16:00] <Hugh> Then start the VM
[16:01] <alazy> If my terminal emulator doesn't support an escape sequence, can one generally "teach" it by messing with termcap/terminfo or related tools, or would I have to add the feature in source code? The former might be within reach, the latter, gimme 10 years.
[16:01] <nbusrone> Hugh : dd into .img .Create a .vdi partition using virtualbox larger than current dd img size.Use clonezilla restore the dd image into the vdi.
[16:01] <Hugh> Why not just convert the raw image to vdi?
[16:02] <Hugh> https://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2012/04/29/virtualbox-convert-raw-image-to-vdi-and-otherwise/
[16:02] <mgedmin> alazy: the latter, unfortunately
[16:02] <mgedmin> alazy: terminfo is for teaching _programs_ about what escape sequences the terminal emulator already supports
[16:04] <Hugh> Need to go out, back soon
[16:04] <Hugh> (essential journey, don't report me :P)
[16:05] <nbusrone> Hugh : I tested convert raw image to vdi but not able to boot because the conversion doesn't create a mbr boot for grub.
[16:07] <alazy> mgedmin: Then I'm not sure which case applies actually. I'm using vim in tmux in fbterm in the VT (without X). Vim's cursor won't change to a line in insert mode if I use fbterm. It does if I ssh in or otherwise take fbterm out of the setup (I'd still like to use it).
[16:07] <nbusrone> Hugh : The only way is create .vdi , boot a live ubuntu CD and gparted the .vdi to create a sda1 partition.Then restore using clonezilla.
[16:10] <mgedmin> alazy: yeah, no idea about fbterm, I prefer gnome-terminal
[16:12] <Hugh> nbusrone, OK, crack on then.
[16:13] <nbusrone> Hugh : I will test it out first , nothing to loss. thanks
[16:17] <kn0rki> 888888888888
[16:18] <sarnold> akik: nice find with jpmh's TERM problem :D
[16:44] <SupaYoshi> Heya, anyone an idea how I can expand this file sytem?
[16:44] <SupaYoshi> https://prnt.sc/so7zrb
[16:45] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, output from "lsblk -e 7 -o name,size,type,fstype,mountpoint" would be clearer
[16:46] <TheFu> and sudo parted -lm
[16:48] <SupaYoshi> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cy7kChr7GD/
[16:48] <SupaYoshi> here you go
[16:58] <mgedmin> no answers for SupaYoshi?  because I'm curious myself
[16:58] <mgedmin> it's an LVM physical volume inside an encrypted LUKS device
[16:59] <mgedmin> to expand it you'd need to grow LUKS, then grow the LVM PV, then grow the LVM logical volume, then grow the ext4 filesystem, in that order
[17:00] <mgedmin> unless there are maybe tools that make this a bit less manual?  gnome-disks?  gparted?
[17:00] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, sorry, stepped away.
[17:01] <Hamilton> I use a couple of apps but they are outdated in 18.04. What's the worst that could happen if I build them from source? (picom and zathura)
[17:02] <TheFu> I'd simply backup the data, do a fresh install onto larger storage, selecting FDE + LVM.  Then I'd reduce the root LV to something reasonable, perhaps 25G and create other LVs for other needs.
[17:02] <mgedmin> Hamilton: https://xkcd.com/349/ is maybe a bit of an exaggeration
[17:02] <mgedmin> Hamilton: I would check if newer versions of the apps are available as snaps first
[17:03] <Hamilton> mgedmin, they are not. And snaps apps are slower compared to apt releases
[17:03] <mgedmin> Hamilton: but, generally speaking, installing apps into /usr/local should be mostly harmless; installing into ~/.local/ even more so
[17:03] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, For example, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2425709&p=13883277#post13883277
[17:04] <TheFu> Last time I tried to manually shrink an encrypted LUKS container, it was manual for all the math.
[17:04] <Hamilton> mgedmin, does make install or ninja or cmake install, just move the binray from /build/ to /usr/local?
[17:05] <TheFu> Since the / is involved, somethings the boot issues make just doing a 10min re-install+restore the easiest answer.
[17:06] <TheFu> For a straight data PV, You can setup a new LUKS container, and use pvmove from the old to the new.
[17:06] <mgedmin> Hamilton: depends on the app, really; e.g. I use a self-compiled vim without installing it (but I have to use a wrapper script that sets VIMRUNTIME to where it can find its runtime files)
[17:06] <TheFu> Not sure of all the details necessary to fix the boot stuff after the fact, however.
[17:06] <mgedmin> Hamilton: './configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && sudo make install' is the traditional recipe, but it assumes the app uses autoconf
[17:08] <mgedmin> Hamilton: you could use checkinstall (apt install checkinstall) to wrap the 'sudo make install', it'll produce Debian packaging metadata for you, so you'll be able to uninstall the app later
[17:08] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, the cryptab will need to be altered correctly along with the fstab.  Most other things really don't care about the encryption or not. Provided the end result has the data showing up where it belongs in the file system. Everything under the file system like mounts and encryption don't matter to the running OS.  Boot stuff cares, however.
[17:08] <mgedmin> as for what could possibly break... I once broke gdm by installing a newer libgtk (or libglib?  don't remember) into /usr/local
[17:08] <mgedmin> so building apps from source should be safe, but don't do that with system libraries
[17:12] <etronik> Hi all, how do I find the owner or user for apache webserver ?
[17:13] <etronik> Hi all, how do I find the owner or user for apache webserver ?
[17:13] <etronik> ups sorry
[17:13] <mgedmin> Hamilton: there's also the option of backporting a package from a newer ubuntu release; apt install ubuntu-dev-tools; pull-lp-source picom focal; cd focal-* && debuild -i
[17:13] <mgedmin> but often that ends up with a slog of it requiring newer versions of dependencies and so on
[17:14] <mgedmin> (then again, building from source can also fail if your libraries are too old)
[17:14] <mgedmin> (building a snap might be easier)
[17:14] <Hamilton> mgedmin, Thanks. Some people suggest against make installing on /usr/local . why?
[17:14] <ioria> !info picom
[17:14] <mgedmin> it's not very reliable, especially if the person doing it is not an experienced unix developer/sysadmin
[17:15] <SupaYoshi> TheFu:
[17:15] <SupaYoshi> TheFu: Any idea, how to do that then in a easy way?
[17:17] <mgedmin> Hamilton: also you don't get updates for stuff manually installed in /usr/local so now it's your responsibility to watch for security vulnerability reports
[17:18] <mgedmin> Hamilton: also manually installed stuff tends to break on OS upgrades (because your system libraries are now all different versions) so you have to recompile and reinstall
[17:18] <mgedmin> I mean, it's ok _if you know what you're doing_, but people who know what they're doing tend not to ask questions like "is it a good/bad idea"...
[17:19] <Hamilton> mgedmin, yes I'm n00b. So overall I think my best bet is creating a deb file and `apt install ./new_deb.deb`  or building and moving the binary to ~/bin
[17:19] <Seaspeed> how to install json in ubuntu
[17:20] <mgedmin> Seaspeed: json is a file format, not an application?  what do you mean?
[17:20] <etronik> Who should be owner of wordpress install on Apache virtualHost placed under my user's home directory ? my user or www-data ? TIA
[17:21] <mgedmin> Hamilton: BTW what is this picom thing you spoke of?  there's no package named 'picom' in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS; the closest thing is some NVIDIA CUDA library for picture compression?
[17:21] <Hamilton> mgedmin, It's a compositor. It was called compton then someone forked it to picom. I actually use Xubuntu +i3
[17:22] <Hamilton> mgedmin, But the more important thing is the pdf reader Zathura :\
[17:22] <Seaspeed> "package require json"
[17:22] <Seaspeed> mgedmin
[17:23] <Hamilton> Seaspeed, Is it a script you are running? perl/python?
[17:23] <Seaspeed> nope
[17:23] <mgedmin> python has json in the standard library
[17:23] <Seaspeed> in root i need to install
[17:23] <oxek> what should be the sources.list for 18.04? Mine is messed up.
[17:23] <mgedmin> "package require json" sounds like Tcl?
[17:23] <ogra> Seaspeed, you want "jq"
[17:24] <Seaspeed> mgedmin correct
[17:24] <ogra> oh, tcl
[17:24] <mgedmin> oxek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D4nzy6JmZz/ is what I have in my bionic lxc container
[17:24] <ogra> tcl should also have json in its std lib
[17:25] <Seaspeed> json.tcl i got
[17:26] <oxek> mgedmin: thanks
[17:34] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, People always want to do non-trivial things the easy way.  What is it exactly that you want to do?
[17:34] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, multiple ideas were posted above.
[17:35] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, and i don't know how to do all of them.
[17:36] <TheFu> At least not 100%
[17:39] <SupaYoshi> TheFLu, I want to expend the main volume (20gb) to 40gb
[17:42] <TheFu> i've never done that in place. The easiest way i know is to create new storage sized how you want, do a fresh install there, then use your restore procedures to put data, settings, and programs back.
[17:43] <TheFu> Basically, the normal backup/restore just above the file system level.
[17:46] <TheFu> Let me think about something for a sec.  if encryption wasn't used, then you could just make another LVM PV on the unused storage them add that new PV into the VG already existing.
[17:46] <SupaYoshi> Hmmm
[17:47] <SupaYoshi> So... lol
[17:47] <alehander92> so
[17:47] <alehander92> i updated to 20.04
[17:47] <SupaYoshi> I can disable the encryption?
[17:47] <TheFu> May be possible to create a new crypt container in the new storage, put that PV inside ...
[17:47] <alehander92> thank you! a great version
[17:48] <SupaYoshi> Okay.. Would be great trying it out cus its a VM anyway
[17:48] <alehander92> just wondering, if getting a failed to open nvenc
[17:48] <alehander92> coded can be somehow related to it
[17:48] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, i don't know how to remove encryption in place. Sorry.  cryptsetup manpage may have ansewrs?
[17:48] <alehander92> it seems i use nvidia-driver-440 already
[17:49] <ohmyfromage> I have a script that connects me to a vpn. How can I change the script so that as long as I am connected to the VPN, there is some kind of visual indicator on the screen?
[17:49] <ohmyfromage> I want to do this because I often forget that I am connected to the VPN
[17:49] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, perhaps you can move everything to the new unencrypted storage - pvmove can do that ...
[17:51] <TheFu> then wipe the existing encrypted stuff, create a new PV in that old area and add it to the existing VG, then you can create or extend LVs as desired.......
[17:52] <TheFu> But by the time you do all this, a backup and restore to large storage would be faster.  My restore process takes just 30-45 minutes and that includes a fresh OS install.
[17:53] <SupaYoshi> TheFu, I have some custom settings set to the Arc Menu, some Gnome settings and so.
[17:53] <SupaYoshi> and a user account setup, how can I "backup" and transfer that?
[17:53] <SupaYoshi> Cus I am fine doing that, But I do't want to set that up again. :P
[17:54] <TheFu> That's kinda the point for backups.   UbuntuForums have some backup scripts that you'd customize for your needs.
[17:57] <TheFu> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2422831&p=13935233#post13935233 has one using LVM snapshots
[17:59] <TheFu> What to backup / restore: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2389631&p=13757986#post13757986
[18:00] <TheFu> SupaYoshi, all personal settings should be in the HOME.  No clue what Arc menu is and i don't use Gnome.
[18:00] <mgedmin> ohmyfromage: what sort of VPN?  maybe you could use NetworkManager to connect to it, it then shows a status icon while you're connected
[18:11] <nbusrone> hi , does anyone know how to check ubuntu OS whether it's running 64bit or 32 bit on other partition ?
[18:11] <TheFu> uname -a
[18:11] <mgedmin> os-prober, maybe?
[18:11] <nbusrone> is there any log file confirm ?
[18:12] <nbusrone> TheFu mgedmin : I mean from other partition
[18:12] <mgedmin> no man page, no --help, that is not a tool meant for interactive use
[18:12] <mgedmin> mount the other partition and cat /mnt/sdc3/etc/os-release?
[18:13] <mgedmin> crud, that doesn't mention architecture
[18:13] <EriC^^> nbusrone: type "arch"
[18:13] <TheFu> nbusrone, sudo file /path/to/kernel
[18:13] <EriC^^> oh, other partition
[18:14] <nbusrone> mgedmin : nope , os-release doesn't show 64 or 32bit
[18:14] <EriC^^> nbusrone: look for /mnt/lib64
[18:15] <TheFu> For example:  $ sudo file /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-99-generic
[18:15] <mgedmin> not on ubuntu
[18:16] <mgedmin> cat /mnt/var/lib/dpkg/arch ?
[18:16] <mgedmin> on x86-64 this prints two lines: amd64 and i386
[18:16] <nbusrone> EriC^^ : it does have lib64 folder but only 1 file .so
[18:17] <mgedmin> this would assume the other os is debian or a derivative
[18:17] <mgedmin> oh hey /lib64 exists nowadays, I'm old
[18:17] <EriC^^> nbusrone: yeah, it seems to be 64bit
[18:17] <nbusrone> mgedmin : I am doing some backup on old os 12.04
[18:18] <mgedmin> I'm guessing /lib64 is meant for compatibility with redhat-like distros?
[18:18] <nbusrone> Just want to confirm it's 64 or 32bit
[18:18] <mgedmin> so that binaries compiled elsewhere can find ld.so
[18:18] <TheFu> every compiled program says what it is when asked for "file" .../bin$ file ls
[18:18] <TheFu> ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
[18:19] <mgedmin> very old ubuntu releases might not have /var/lib/dpkg/arch
[18:19] <TheFu> That 'ls' example is from a 12.04 Ubuntu.
[18:20] <nbusrone> TheFu : I found the etc/kernel but how to verify 64 or 32bit ? somehow just want to double confirm
[18:20] <TheFu> Use "file" command.
[18:20] <nbusrone> mgedmin :  /var/lib/dpkg/arch doesn't have arch
[18:20] <TheFu> $ file /bin/ls
[18:22] <nbusrone> TheFu :  ELF 64-bit LSB  executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=35d6cd3799517f5855400489f9bf3a6227200039, stripped
[18:22] <TheFu> Should work on any Unix-like OS.
[18:22] <TheFu> nbusrone, seems pretty clear - x86-64
[18:23] <nbusrone> TheFu :  Thanks :D
[18:23] <nbusrone> TheFu :  Somehow , the fastest way is to check by this command file ls ?
[18:24] <nbusrone> TheFu :  So it's 64bit , I though 32bit way a long.
[18:26] <TheFu> On a 32-bot, looks lke "ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386,"
[18:27] <TheFu> mips, arm, powerpc would all say those CPUs.
[18:27] <TheFu> nbusrone, fastest way?  For what purpose?
[18:28] <TheFu> nbusrone, if i needed to check 1000 systems, i'd use ansible.
[18:28] <nbusrone> TheFu :  Thanks , I mean easiest method to check 32 or 64bit
[18:28] <TheFu> You need something easier?
[18:28] <nbusrone> TheFu :  easier like just open a text file from log ?
[18:29] <TheFu> idk.
[18:29] <TheFu> Logs are different on every system.
[18:30] <TheFu> Compiled programs are fairly standard.  'ls' is likely on every Unix system that isn't extremely embedded.
[18:31] <TheFu> i suppose you could do a file on file - $ /usr/bin/file /usr/bin/file
[18:34] <TheFu> Cleaned up: $ /usr/bin/file /usr/bin/file |sed -e 's/^.*ELF($1)/$1/' -e 's/,.*$//'
[18:34] <mgedmin> this discussion went places
[18:34] <mgedmin> if you want to check the arch of a running system, use uname -m
[18:35] <mgedmin> if you want to check the arch of a Linux OS in a different partition, use file /mnt/usr/bin/ls (or any other executable)
[18:36] <mgedmin> using file to check the arch of a running system is just ... why
[18:37] <TheFu> agreed.   but having a consistent way could be useful for non-running system files.
[18:37] <nbusrone> TheFu mgedmin : beginner here , so i know less on command to check the version on other partition .Thanks now .
[18:44] <eliyahutbr> well guys, i did. fresh install from iso to LTS. need some hand holding as I'm a relative novice.
[18:44] <eliyahutbr> I could have left out relative
[18:45] <ThinkT510> eliyahutbr: well done
[18:46] <sarnold> eliyahutbr: nice :) welcome aboard
[18:48] <eliyahutbr> 1st and biggest issue at the moment is the my ISP requires a .crt in root and I've tried the suggestions in https://askubuntu.com/questions/73287/how-do-i-install-a-root-certificate but I still get https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XM6VBtvBcf/ when i try to do a snap install
[18:49] <ohmyfromage> eliyahutbr: that seems ver sketchy
[18:50] <eliyahutbr> 2nd issue, and also kinda huge, I made sure to back up my stuff via the Deja Dup backup GUI, but now (on my phone's hotspot which doesn't need a .crt) when I try to connect to restore the back up, it just says "Checking for Backups". I can see the backups in my google drive. Any suggestions?
[18:50] <eliyahutbr> ohmyfromage it is. I'm happy to explain if you want to learn a weird little bit of niche culture / life
[18:51] <eliyahutbr> cause you never know who you'll meet on IRC
[18:51] <eliyahutbr> Thanks ThinkT510 and sarnold.
[18:53] <ohmyfromage> eliyahutbr: why would you want your ISP to be able to MITM your network traffic?
[18:53] <TheFu> eliyahutbr, that's just scary. None of your HTTPS is private.  Ouch!
[18:54] <eliyahutbr> glad you asked that ohmyfromage. I am an Orthodox Jew living in Israel. I choose to use a filtered internet service to keep smut out of my house. (with no disrespect for those who enjoy smut. each their own.)
[18:55] <FManTropyx> lol
[18:55] <eliyahutbr> true story
[18:55] <sarnold> oh wow, interesting approach to get there
[18:55] <sarnold> at least you've opted into it :)
[18:55] <eliyahutbr> will i get booted if i reference illegal drug usage?
[18:55] <FManTropyx> are you into it?
[18:55] <sarnold> probably not, eliyahutbr
[18:55] <eliyahutbr> could very well be...
[18:55] <leftyfb> eliyahutbr: it's irrelevant, please move onto ubuntu support topics
[18:55] <TheFu> illegal doesn't apply everywhere.
[18:56] <eliyahutbr> so, this orthodox jew in israel is gonna spark his jay and continue his quest to get his backups restored to his machine. Lchaim. (to life!)
[18:57] <TheFu> is the deja dup backups all locally encrypted?
[18:58] <TheFu> BEFORE you sent them to google?
[18:58] <ohmyfromage> eliyahutbr: not only is it filtered, it is also surveilled. is your privacy not a holy thing as well?
[18:59] <eliyahutbr> https://scikcd.blogspot.com/2017/09/install-internet-rimon-root-certificate.html its a real thing
[19:00] <eliyahutbr> TheFu, how big of a fool would i be if I said no to your question?
[19:00] <sarnold> https://golang.org/src/crypto/x509/root_unix.go
[19:01] <sarnold> it looks like go's going to be looking through /etc/ssl/certs ... to find the system CA pool..
[19:01] <TheFu> No bigger than i for some not-so-smart things i've done and sometimes still do. ;)
[19:01] <venmx> hi, if i am correct dhcpcd isn't installed by default and normally dhclient.conf is where you can configure dhcp functionality, if i install dhcpcd, configure a static address, that works, then purge it, it should fall back to the config in dhclient.conf. is this correct?
[19:01] <eliyahutbr> ohmyfromage my man, i live in israel. _everything_ is surveilled. all the time. all of it.
[19:01] <sarnold> eliyahutbr: hmm, which instructions on that page did you follow? do you still have the commands you ran and output in scrollback?
[19:02] <eliyahutbr> still in scrollback
[19:02] <eliyahutbr> i can dump it all into  a paste
[19:02] <eliyahutbr> (at least the commands, if not all the output)
[19:02] <sarnold> eliyahutbr: excellent :) please do, I'll give it a quick look
[19:02] <sarnold> yeah, some of it might be  afew thousand lines long..
[19:02] <sarnold> but it might still be useful. wel'll see ;)
[19:03] <eliyahutbr> this is gonna take a few moments
[19:07] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xDJTshqPtc/ first bit of what i have.
[19:07] <leftyfb> venmx: dhcpd is a dhcp server. It doesn't sound like that is what you're looking for. What are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[19:08] <venmx> leftyfb: well, i am actually trying to find a way back into my machine which i stupidly rebooted after purging dhcpcd5
[19:09] <venmx> its dhcpcd not dhcpd... the client daemon
[19:09] <leftyfb> venmx: This is a remote machine? Why did you have dhcpcd installed?
[19:09] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qhQDhtzVks/
[19:10] <lord4163> Why isn't there a metapackage for lamp-server?
[19:10] <ohmyfromage> eliyahutbr: in this case it's the ISP doing the surveillance, not the state of Israel.
[19:10] <venmx> i initially installed dhcpcd so that i could set a static ip address for it
[19:10] <ohmyfromage> eliyahutbr: can you point me to some kind of rabbinic rule that allows this kind of violation of privacy?
[19:10] <sarnold> eliyahutbr: aha!
[19:11] <eliyahutbr> i like that!
[19:11] <sarnold> eliyahutbr: oh you did the /etc/ca-certificates.conf changes too, most people forget those, heh
[19:11] <sarnold> eliyahutbr: well, it's better to just use the /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/ directory instead, it's more reliable and doesn't require that step..
[19:12] <leftyfb> venmx: you do not need dhcpcd to set a static ip in ubuntu. Network Manager (if a GUI desktop), ifupdown and netplan all let you set static ip addresses without needing to install anything
[19:12] <eliyahutbr> it was on the page. i wouldn't have know to do that
[19:12] <venmx> leftyfb: if i am right, by default, out of the box it gets its lease from dhcp server via the dhclient.conf (or whatever client app that configures)
[19:12] <ohmyfromage> eliyahutbr: this is interesting, thanks for the info
[19:12] <sarnold> that's the trouble with stackoverflow ;( sometimes you get someone who knows very well what they're doing, and sometimes you get someone giving bad advice, and it's hard to tell which is which
[19:12] <leftyfb> venmx: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:12] <eliyahutbr> i can cp foo.crt to /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/ and everything should be fine?
[19:12] <Hamilton> If I make install from source, what would happen to manpages or .desktop icons of the app?
[19:13] <sarnold> eliyahutbr: yes, try that; after copying it in place, re-run sudo update-ca-certificates -v
[19:14] <eliyahutbr> and TheFu, assuming those backups are sitting unencrypted on my google drive. how could I get them back (preferably via command line)?
[19:14] <venmx> leftyfb: another secret, this particular machine is a raspian... i am using ubuntu now, but i thought i'd ask here as it might be quite similar (its based on debian buster)
[19:14] <leftyfb> venmx: ask in #raspberrypi
[19:14] <leftyfb> venmx: the answers are not similar
[19:14] <venmx> i have it's not so active
[19:15] <venmx> leftyfb: gotcha, thanks all the same :)
[19:15] <leftyfb> venmx: you'll have to wait. We cannot support rasbian here
[19:15] <venmx> np
[19:16] <TheFu> eliyahutbr, sorry, i don't know.  We block most google services at the network layer. Hopefully, someone else can help.
[19:22] <adac> With two disks in a raid 1, how can I see if the bootloader is installed on both disks?
[19:24] <TheFu> boot-info script?   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info   but there have to be easier ways.
[19:24] <eliyahutbr> thanks guys. seems the .crt issue is sorted. @sarnold in particular.
[19:24] <eliyahutbr> the back up issue is going to have to wait until tomorrow
[19:25] <eliyahutbr> layla tov (good night in hebrew) from Israel. Peace out.
[19:26] <sarnold> eliyahutbr: woot!
[19:26] <sarnold> eliyahutbr: shalom!
[19:29] <ohmyfromage> eliyahutbr: tishmor al atzmecha vehapratiyut shelcha
[19:31] <adac> TheFu, is there also some command line method?
[19:32] <Hugh> adac you could compare the first bytes of each physical device? Boot sector is 512 bytes, then it's on to the boot partition which will probably be on both disks. cmp -n 512 /dev/sda /dev/deb
[19:32] <Hugh> I'd be worried if the boot partition was not mirrored.
[19:33] <Hugh> deb? sdb!!
[19:33] <sarnold> heh
[19:36] <TheFu> i just keep a few flash drives around with the different OSes needed to boot.  Once in about a decade, one of those has been needed to boot and run the OS until a maintenance period.
[19:38] <adac> Hugh, ok thanks!
[19:39] <adac> Yes I'm indeed a bit afraid :)
[19:49] <goddard_> how can i start a flatpak app from the command line?
[19:51] <goddard_> like with which
[19:51] <goddard_> i wanna find the path
[19:51] <goddard_> is that even possible?
[19:52] <pjs> What does everyone use to suspend/sleep their laptops? I have a thinkpad x1c6 and for a while just closing my lid worked. Lately the laptop goes to sleep (at least the tp light pulses) but at some point it "wakes up" and the battery is draining or worse, when I open it, I can't get the screen to activate.
[19:52] <pjs> Annoying. I'm wondering if I should be trying zzz or suspend or something before I close the lid
[19:53] <TheFu> goddard_, Try $ /usr/bin/flatpak  run com.author.package.binary $@
[19:54] <TheFu> So, to run vidcutter ... /usr/bin/flatpak  run com.ozmartians.VidCutter {options} {inputs}
[19:54] <goddard_> TheFu: how can i get the path of that flatpak app
[19:54] <goddard_> is that impossible?
[19:55] <TheFu> pjs, I use pm-suspend or just close the lid.
[19:55] <TheFu> goddard_, 'find', but it isn't needed to run it.
[19:55] <goddard_> TheFu: im looking for the path
[19:55] <TheFu> goddard_, or you can use locate, assuming you have the updatedb working.  or ...
[19:56] <pjs> TheFu, thanks. I'll look into that and see about just adding the command when the lid closure event is triggered
[19:57] <TheFu> pjs,  think it is controlled by systemd.  /etc/systemd/logind.conf ... has some settings.  The manpage for logind.conf probably explains.
[19:58] <pjs> TheFu: is the pkg named powernap that contains pm-suspend?
[20:02] <TheFu> pjs, IDK and can't check now.
[20:03] <TheFu> The manpage is here or on your system: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/pm-action.8.html
[20:04] <pjs> TheFu, thank you. Sorry, turns out I already had it installed. Maybe it's standard
[20:04] <TheFu> goddard_, looks like flatpaks get installed somewhere under /var/lib/flatpak ... then it gets murky.
[20:05] <TheFu> pjs, don't know. Not on my 20.04 system. Perhaps different flavors have it as extra stuff?  I always choose the "minimal" install when given the choice.
[20:05] <TheFu> Plus, most are "servers" that don't get suspended, ever.
[20:06] <pjs> TheFu, right, I think I installed Ubuntu Desktop when I setup this laptop but it's been a couple of years so I honestly don't remember. Anyway, thanks for the help!
[20:08] <TheFu> sudo apt search pm-utils   # appears to be it. There's a way to ask APT which package any specific file was installed from.  dpkg-query?  I don't recall.
[20:09] <sarnold> dpkg -S /path/to/thing
[20:09] <pjs> TheFu: yea, dpkg-query -L pm-utils shows that is the pkg
[20:09] <sarnold> but note that /lib -> /usr/lib symlink breaks dpkg -S
[20:10] <sarnold> alll those symlinks break dpkg -S
[20:22] <adac> Hugh, your method works!
[21:03] <waddles> I'm trying to create a udev rule to run a script when I plug in a USB dev to my raspberry pi, this is my rule: `ACTION=="add", ATTRS{idVendor}=="090c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1000", RUN+="home/pi/test.sh"` and my script: `#! /bin/bashecho "TESTING" > test.log` but I do not see anything happening. What would be the best way to go about this?
[21:04] <sarnold> waddles: it's probably not a good idea to rely upon udev to have a specific current working directory -- give the full explicit path to your script
[21:05] <sarnold> waddles: same thing goes for your test.log file -- give an explcit path for it
[21:06] <webmind> hi, I need to get into someone's session, I am root. Usually I'd kill their screensaver, but that doesn't seem to be an option in ubuntu 20.04. Anyone got another way of doing that?
[21:06] <sarnold> webmind: use passwd to force the user's password to one of your choosing, then use that
[21:06] <webmind> ldap system
[21:07] <webmind> but I can't kill a process that does the locking?
[21:08] <sarnold> it depends on the screenlocker in question, I'm not sure what the gnome shell uses, but I really wouldn't be surprised if it's part of the gnome-shell thing these days, and thus killing it would kill everything
[21:08] <webmind> yeah, me neither :(
[21:08] <webmind> that's why I decided to ask here :)
[21:10] <webmind> hehe, I created a local user with the same name, but same uid as mine
[21:10] <sarnold> lol
[21:11] <sarnold> clever :)
[21:11] <webmind> now it renamed it to my name? but doesn't accept my password
[21:11] <sarnold> aw :(
[21:11] <webmind> so figuring out the name of the user is a different system than the authentication
[21:12] <EriC^^> why do you not have the password or the person just unlock his account?
[21:13] <EriC^^> sounds sketchy
[21:13] <webmind> it's sketchy if you have admins that ask users for their password imo
[21:14] <EriC^^> well why do you need to access their locked desktop session, and cant ask them to unlock it, give password temporarily?
[21:14] <webmind> another way I use it to let them unlock, but with things as they are, the nunmber of people allowed in our office are rather limited
[21:14] <webmind> we'd have to be in the small office at the same time, and we couldn't keep 1.5m distance
[21:15] <JJ214> Would anyone have a few to help me configure my linux server properly? Using 18.04, wanting to software raid 6 my 6 drives. I THINK I have it correct, but before I hit that final install button I wnated to run it by someone to make sure it's configured properly
[21:15] <webmind> and I need to unlock it, because for some reason after upgrading to 20.04 certain network mounts stop working
[21:17] <webmind> well, killing gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-password] gets rid of the session alright :(
[21:18] <sarnold> :/
[21:29] <webmind> seems like ubuntu 20.04 doesn't like connecting to old samba 3 servers (and samba4 is a problem with ldap)
[21:29] <webmind> but problems seems solved for now (got in the user by creating an entry in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow)
[21:32] <sarnold> webmind: we raised the minimum smb protocol version somewhere along the way
[21:33] <sarnold> webmind: I don't know which versions of samba can speak which versions of the protocol, but samba 3 sounds *ancient*, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's running a too-low SMB version
[21:33] <TheFu> Didn't Win10 stop netbios too?
[21:36] <webmind> sarnold: yeah v1
[21:36] <webmind> it is ancient, still maintained by Redhat though, kinda
[21:37] <webmind> but samba4 is just a whole nother piece of software which doesn't seem to like to play with a seperate LDAP server
[21:37] <sarnold> "SMB1 disabled by default: can still be enabled via a /etc/samba/smb.conf config change; "  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes  -- sadly not a whole lot of detail on *how* to make the change, but it's possible
[21:38] <webmind> yeah, I think I fixed it by creating that file and adding some stuff
[21:49] <webmind> Is there a network link you can give yo virt-manager for installing an ubuntu machine btw?
[21:49] <webmind> or do I have to download the iso?
[21:53] <sarnold> webmind: there's a uvt that can download the cloud images and run them in libvirt, but it's not really seen much attention lately -- it's less popular than more featured tools like lxd, microstack, or full openstack installs
[21:53] <sarnold> webmind: or multipass..
[22:03] <webmind> sarnold: too bad, I like kvm for testing stuff
[22:03] <webmind> thnx
[22:04] <TwistedBlizzard> Hi all, I just installed updates for the first time since my fresh install a week ago and immediately Samba crashed. I then restarted and after logging in was notified that Nautilus has crashed. I submitted the reports but I was wondering if this is normal.
[22:04] <sarnold> webmind: all of lxd, microstack, openstack, etc will use kvm under the hood; they just don't use libvirt
[22:32] <webmind> sarnold: hmm, I thought lxd was just cgroup based containers?
[22:32] <sarnold> webmind: lxd also does VMs now
[22:33] <webmind> ah
[22:33] <sarnold> https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/t/trying-lxd-virtual-machines/6182 -- this blog post is a few months old, but it was a useful starting point for me
[22:35] <FManTropyx> "dpkg: too many errors, stopping"
[22:57] <Saviq> webmind: Multipass can actually drive libvirt, just use `multipass set local.driver=libvirt`
[22:58] <sarnold> interesting, thanks Saviq
[22:58] <bigLITTLE> how can I enable hibernation on ubuntu 20.4 FF
[23:00] <sarnold> bigLITTLE: check out the logind.conf(5) manpage, it has some options around hibernate / suspend
[23:01] <webmind> Saviq: uhm, but I have a setup with virt-manager. I don't even see a package for multipass
[23:01] <webmind> I really don't want to switch vm enviroment -again-
[23:07] <bigLITTLE> not easy to follow
[23:14] <oeuvre> hello friends
[23:21] <oeuvre> anyone here?
[23:22] <sarnold> oeuvre: folks come and go..
[23:22] <pavlos> oeuvre: yes
[23:22] <oeuvre> ok
[23:22] <oeuvre> FREE ANASTASIUS
[23:24] <milehigh-> FREE ANASTASIUS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5BU3w-2FGs