| Mr_Cyclops | Hi, looking for a VPS where I can install my own instance of an Ubuntu LTS and is fast+Economic. Any suggestions please? | 00:03 |
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| === Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB | ||
| oerheks | basicly, any VPS service offered with ubuntu is heavily tweaked | 00:16 |
| oerheks | no, we have no wiki with best rates or security testing | 00:18 |
| Mr_Cyclops | oerheks, Ok, well not a wiki but like .... I was wondering from your own experience | 00:19 |
| oerheks | why renting a vps if you want to setup one yourself? | 00:22 |
| Mr_Cyclops | Well, my main reason is to store about a TB of data on the cloud, but I want my own VPS so that I have more control | 00:23 |
| sarnold | that's probably enough that you'll need to figure out what your traffic and use patterns will look like, and check out the pricing calculators offered by the various services | 00:24 |
| Mr_Cyclops | Thanks sarnold | 00:25 |
| oerheks | nextcloud will do. | 00:26 |
| Mr_Cyclops | oerheks, next cloud is just a s/w, it still needs a server/location to host it on | 00:27 |
| leftyfb | Mr_Cyclops: I like prgmr.com | 02:09 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning | 03:12 |
| joelcrump | morning/evening/afternoon | 03:13 |
| lotuspsychje | hey joelcrump | 03:15 |
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| lordievader | Good morning | 06:16 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:16 |
| === GR1M0R4CL3_ is now known as GR1M0R4CL3 | ||
| marcoagpinto | Heya | 09:01 |
| marcoagpinto | knock, knock, who is there?, the cola demon | 09:06 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | hello | 09:39 |
| marcoagpinto | hey | 09:40 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | damn it. someone is alive here. | 09:40 |
| marcoagpinto | I am still alive | 10:42 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) <- cola demon | 10:42 |
| MuertoLives | good morning, its a beautiful rainy morning in Orlando | 10:46 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | Sun over France and Paris. not a single cloud | 10:46 |
| MuertoLives | oooooo | 13:29 |
| zmagii | Sven_vB: Hi, not sure if you have time for this question. I am just wondering if you have other reasons for using Xfce than the ones I have. | 13:39 |
| leftyfb | GR1M0R4CL3: what have you been helping nbusrone with this whole time? | 14:09 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | yup | 14:15 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | he used some tar commands and broke his /sbin/init | 14:15 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | we have been able to mount in rw his /, chroot to it | 14:15 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | but we have not been able to reinstall the package for 12.04 that contains /sbin/init | 14:16 |
| leftyfb | you do realize 12.04 isn't supported here anymore right? | 14:16 |
| leftyfb | This is hours worth of work to limp along an unsupported OS | 14:16 |
| leftyfb | it would have been quicker for them to install 18.04 and re-install their apps and restore from backup | 14:17 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | perhaps his machine does not support something more recent :/ | 14:17 |
| leftyfb | it's a VM | 14:17 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | most recent ubuntu might require a vm upgrade (of the vm soft) | 14:18 |
| lotuspsychje | good excuse to troll maybe | 14:22 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | well i gave him links and info to keep using 12.04 and advice to move to 18.04 or 20.04 | 14:31 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | what he does from now on... his/her choice. | 14:32 |
| lotuspsychje | keep using 12.04 is not the greatest idea GR1M0R4CL3 | 14:32 |
| zmagii | their choice if you like the neutral pronoun | 14:32 |
| lotuspsychje | zmagii: 12.04 is not supported anymore, not the users choice anymore to get support | 14:33 |
| lotuspsychje | GR1M0R4CL3: own compiling is also not supported, would be good if you didnt proceed with advising users after other volunteers already pointed them to the maintainer | 14:34 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | well we advised to move to a security-fixes available LTS | 14:40 |
| GR1M0R4CL3 | sometimes people have to shoot their own foot to learn | 14:41 |
| Sven_vB | is a Raspi with Ubuntu a good equipment for watching movies in VLC and browsing the web in Firefox, at the same time? | 15:26 |
| daftykins | i would have to wonder why you would limit yourself to such a device and still want to do those things | 15:49 |
| Sven_vB | I searched for a new netbook for hours and wasn't satisfied with the offers, so I thought maybe if I mix and match components separately, I could make a better combination. | 15:51 |
| daftykins | that's a conflicted comparison because 'netbooks' to me were portable basic laptops, then you've mentioned a Pi which is very much not | 15:52 |
| Sven_vB | oh? then maybe the mini computer I've seen recently wasn't a Pi. | 15:53 |
| daftykins | it would make more sense to buy a capable old generation laptop off ebay, £120+ can get you a ThinkPad with a 4th generation i5 with 8GB RAM and more | 15:53 |
| Sven_vB | I'd add a small screen and a portable power supply of course. | 15:53 |
| daftykins | i don't think that's worth it | 15:54 |
| Sven_vB | I'm a bit afraid of used computers though. the latest two notebooks I obtained used, lived for only a few months. | 15:55 |
| daftykins | any clues as to why that was? how did they fail and where were they sourced? | 15:56 |
| daftykins | ThinkPads are great choices for both Linux compatibility and the availability of parts | 15:56 |
| Sven_vB | one just randomly died tonight while I slept. woke up and the screen was black, power switch no longer has any effect. it still consumes about 14W, seemingly for heating its battery. :D | 15:57 |
| Sven_vB | yeah I use Thinkpads as well and like them, but I only found them in 14" or larger. | 15:57 |
| daftykins | sensible sizes imo, though there are plenty of 12.5" models, the X2#0 range | 15:58 |
| daftykins | i'd have a go at repairing that one, but that's what i'm into | 15:58 |
| Sven_vB | what died tonight was an Acer Switch, I'd recommend to not buy them anyway. I only got that one for free because the previous owner dismissed it in favor of a shinier product. | 15:58 |
| daftykins | ah i'm not a fan of hybrid form factor things | 16:00 |
| daftykins | i've had plenty of good luck from ebay devices anywho, you can get some really nice machines for cheap | 16:04 |
| daftykins | there are also refurb companies who give a warranty with theirs, costs more though of course | 16:04 |
| Sven_vB | do you know good german ones? | 16:05 |
| daftykins | nah | 16:06 |
| daftykins | let's see what ebay has though - https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xthinkpad+x240.TRS0&_nkw=thinkpad+x240&_sacat=0 | 16:06 |
| daftykins | the 12.5" models commonly have 1366x768 resolution LCDs which i can't stand :) | 16:08 |
| Sven_vB | oh indeed I need more height in pixels. | 16:24 |
| Sven_vB | at least 800, better 900 | 16:24 |
| daftykins | a client had an X240, he broke the LCD once and i put in a 1920x1080 one - but it's too high res to use 1:1 in a 12.5" imo | 16:25 |
| Sven_vB | would a Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 10 3rd Gen 20L3000L be able to run Ubuntu? not liking it, but I should check the basics at least. | 16:47 |
| daftykins | i would highly recommend avoiding it | 16:49 |
| Sven_vB | thanks. :) | 16:50 |
| Sven_vB | maybe a Lenovo D330? | 17:01 |
| daftykins | you seem to be keen to have a trashy hybrid form factor device | 17:02 |
| Sven_vB | just checking what's cheap enough that I might consider buying it without being happy about the specs. :) | 17:07 |
| Sven_vB | back again. :) | 17:09 |
| Sven_vB | this shop's cheapest offer for a serious one would be a Lenovo ThinkPad X280 | 17:11 |
| Sven_vB | I wonder what "color range: Gamut 50%" means for the display though. | 17:13 |
| daftykins | nothing too important, that's very new so real money | 17:22 |
| daftykins | they cost more than they're worth new, imo | 17:22 |
| Sven_vB | it's refurbished, on offer for about 730 EUR, about 800 USD | 17:25 |
| Sven_vB | meh, a Thinkpad X280 is physically too large for where I want to store it most of the time. what problems would I have to expect with the trashy hybrids? | 17:55 |
| Sven_vB | I guess mostly it's either VLC or Firefox? | 17:56 |
| Sven_vB | meaning too weak to run both at the same time reasonably | 17:57 |
| Sven_vB | to compare, for the past few years I was kinda happy with my Acer Aspire One D255 and D260. they couldn't run both at the same time either, so that limit would be just a non-upgrade. acceptable for the cheapness. | 17:59 |
| daftykins | your requirements seem too strict, why does a storage spot have any bearing o0 | 18:01 |
| Sven_vB | I need a small travel companion. can be a bit weak if it has to. for occasions where large is acceptable, I have enough full size Thinkpads, fortunately. :) | 18:02 |
| daftykins | i don't think a full 'buntu is really a good fit, then | 18:03 |
| Sven_vB | oh, of course I remove lots of cruft by default, change to lightdm+xfce etc. | 18:04 |
| Sven_vB | hopefully that saves battery, too. | 18:04 |
| daftykins | very much doubt it | 18:06 |
| daftykins | i meant a full x86 OS isn't really fitting, there | 18:07 |
| Sven_vB | I need it to run wine for one of my important travel apps. are there other OS options then? | 18:09 |
| oerheks | https://snapcraft.io/install/wine-platform-4-stable/ubuntu | 18:10 |
| oerheks | maybe that snap is only for other snaps.. | 18:10 |
| daftykins | you keep moving the goalposts so that's me out of this topic :) | 18:10 |
| Sven_vB | sorry, didn't mean to. should I have listed the entire requirements catalog upfront? :D | 18:11 |
| daftykins | absolutely | 18:12 |
| Sven_vB | still, could you elaborate on your "highly recommend avoiding it"? | 18:12 |
| daftykins | no | 18:12 |
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