[00:03] <Mr_Cyclops> Hi, looking for a VPS where I can install my own instance of an Ubuntu LTS and is fast+Economic. Any suggestions please?
[00:16] <oerheks> basicly, any VPS service offered with ubuntu is heavily tweaked
[00:18] <oerheks> no, we have no wiki with best rates or security testing
[00:19] <Mr_Cyclops> oerheks, Ok, well not a wiki but like .... I was wondering from your own experience
[00:22] <oerheks> why renting a vps if you want to setup one yourself?
[00:23] <Mr_Cyclops> Well, my main reason is to store about a TB of data on the cloud, but I want my own VPS so that I have more control
[00:24] <sarnold> that's probably enough that you'll need to figure out what your traffic and use patterns will look like, and check out the pricing calculators offered by the various services
[00:25] <Mr_Cyclops> Thanks sarnold
[00:26] <oerheks> nextcloud will do.
[00:27] <Mr_Cyclops> oerheks, next cloud is just a s/w, it still needs a server/location to host it on
[02:09] <leftyfb> Mr_Cyclops: I like prgmr.com
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:13] <joelcrump> morning/evening/afternoon
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> hey joelcrump
[06:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:16] <ducasse> good morning
[09:01] <marcoagpinto> Heya
[09:06] <marcoagpinto> knock, knock, who is there?, the cola demon
[09:39] <GR1M0R4CL3> hello
[09:40] <marcoagpinto> hey
[09:40] <GR1M0R4CL3> damn it. someone is alive here.
[10:42] <marcoagpinto> I am still alive
[10:42] <marcoagpinto> >:) <- cola demon
[10:46] <MuertoLives> good morning, its a beautiful rainy morning in Orlando
[10:46] <GR1M0R4CL3> Sun over France and Paris. not a single cloud
[13:29] <MuertoLives> oooooo
[13:39] <zmagii> Sven_vB: Hi, not sure if you have time for this question. I am just wondering if you have other reasons for using Xfce than the ones I have.
[14:09] <leftyfb> GR1M0R4CL3: what have you been helping nbusrone with this whole time?
[14:15] <GR1M0R4CL3> yup
[14:15] <GR1M0R4CL3> he used some tar commands and broke his /sbin/init
[14:15] <GR1M0R4CL3> we have been able to mount in rw his /, chroot to it
[14:16] <GR1M0R4CL3> but we have not been able to reinstall the package for 12.04 that contains /sbin/init
[14:16] <leftyfb> you do realize 12.04 isn't supported here anymore right?
[14:16] <leftyfb> This is hours worth of work to limp along an unsupported OS
[14:17] <leftyfb> it would have been quicker for them to install 18.04 and re-install their apps and restore from backup
[14:17] <GR1M0R4CL3> perhaps his machine does not support something more recent :/
[14:17] <leftyfb> it's a VM
[14:18] <GR1M0R4CL3> most recent ubuntu might require a vm upgrade (of the vm soft)
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> good excuse to troll maybe
[14:31] <GR1M0R4CL3> well i gave him links and info to keep using 12.04 and advice to move to 18.04 or 20.04
[14:32] <GR1M0R4CL3> what he does from now on... his/her choice.
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> keep using 12.04 is not the greatest idea GR1M0R4CL3
[14:32] <zmagii> their choice if you like the neutral pronoun
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> zmagii: 12.04 is not supported anymore, not the users choice anymore to get support
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> GR1M0R4CL3: own compiling is also not supported, would be good if you didnt proceed with advising users after other volunteers already pointed them to the maintainer
[14:40] <GR1M0R4CL3> well we advised to move to a security-fixes available LTS
[14:41] <GR1M0R4CL3> sometimes people have to shoot their own foot to learn
[15:26] <Sven_vB> is a Raspi with Ubuntu a good equipment for watching movies in VLC and browsing the web in Firefox, at the same time?
[15:49] <daftykins> i would have to wonder why you would limit yourself to such a device and still want to do those things
[15:51] <Sven_vB> I searched for a new netbook for hours and wasn't satisfied with the offers, so I thought maybe if I mix and match components separately, I could make a better combination.
[15:52] <daftykins> that's a conflicted comparison because 'netbooks' to me were portable basic laptops, then you've mentioned a Pi which is very much not
[15:53] <Sven_vB> oh? then maybe the mini computer I've seen recently wasn't a Pi.
[15:53] <daftykins> it would make more sense to buy a capable old generation laptop off ebay, £120+ can get you a ThinkPad with a 4th generation i5 with 8GB RAM and more
[15:53] <Sven_vB> I'd add a small screen and a portable power supply of course.
[15:54] <daftykins> i don't think that's worth it
[15:55] <Sven_vB> I'm a bit afraid of used computers though. the latest two notebooks I obtained used, lived for only a few months.
[15:56] <daftykins> any clues as to why that was? how did they fail and where were they sourced?
[15:56] <daftykins> ThinkPads are great choices for both Linux compatibility and the availability of parts
[15:57] <Sven_vB> one just randomly died tonight while I slept. woke up and the screen was black, power switch no longer has any effect. it still consumes about 14W, seemingly for heating its battery. :D
[15:57] <Sven_vB> yeah I use Thinkpads as well and like them, but I only found them in 14" or larger.
[15:58] <daftykins> sensible sizes imo, though there are plenty of 12.5" models, the X2#0 range
[15:58] <daftykins> i'd have a go at repairing that one, but that's what i'm into
[15:58] <Sven_vB> what died tonight was an Acer Switch, I'd recommend to not buy them anyway. I only got that one for free because the previous owner dismissed it in favor of a shinier product.
[16:00] <daftykins> ah i'm not a fan of hybrid form factor things
[16:04] <daftykins> i've had plenty of good luck from ebay devices anywho, you can get some really nice machines for cheap
[16:04] <daftykins> there are also refurb companies who give a warranty with theirs, costs more though of course
[16:05] <Sven_vB> do you know good german ones?
[16:06] <daftykins> nah
[16:06] <daftykins> let's see what ebay has though - https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xthinkpad+x240.TRS0&_nkw=thinkpad+x240&_sacat=0
[16:08] <daftykins> the 12.5" models commonly have 1366x768 resolution LCDs which i can't stand :)
[16:24] <Sven_vB> oh indeed I need more height in pixels.
[16:24] <Sven_vB> at least 800, better 900
[16:25] <daftykins> a client had an X240, he broke the LCD once and i put in a 1920x1080 one - but it's too high res to use 1:1 in a 12.5" imo
[16:47] <Sven_vB> would a Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 10 3rd Gen 20L3000L be able to run Ubuntu? not liking it, but I should check the basics at least.
[16:49] <daftykins> i would highly recommend avoiding it
[16:50] <Sven_vB> thanks. :)
[17:01] <Sven_vB> maybe a Lenovo D330?
[17:02] <daftykins> you seem to be keen to have a trashy hybrid form factor device
[17:07] <Sven_vB> just checking what's cheap enough that I might consider buying it without being happy about the specs. :)
[17:09] <Sven_vB> back again. :)
[17:11] <Sven_vB> this shop's cheapest offer for a serious one would be a Lenovo ThinkPad X280
[17:13] <Sven_vB> I wonder what "color range: Gamut 50%" means for the display though.
[17:22] <daftykins> nothing too important, that's very new so real money
[17:22] <daftykins> they cost more than they're worth new, imo
[17:25] <Sven_vB> it's refurbished, on offer for about 730 EUR, about 800 USD
[17:55] <Sven_vB> meh, a Thinkpad X280 is physically too large for where I want to store it most of the time. what problems would I have to expect with the trashy hybrids?
[17:56] <Sven_vB> I guess mostly it's either VLC or Firefox?
[17:57] <Sven_vB> meaning too weak to run both at the same time reasonably
[17:59] <Sven_vB> to compare, for the past few years I was kinda happy with my Acer Aspire One D255 and D260. they couldn't run both at the same time either, so that limit would be just a non-upgrade. acceptable for the cheapness.
[18:01] <daftykins> your requirements seem too strict, why does a storage spot have any bearing o0
[18:02] <Sven_vB> I need a small travel companion. can be a bit weak if it has to. for occasions where large is acceptable, I have enough full size Thinkpads, fortunately. :)
[18:03] <daftykins> i don't think a full 'buntu is really a good fit, then
[18:04] <Sven_vB> oh, of course I remove lots of cruft by default, change to lightdm+xfce etc.
[18:04] <Sven_vB> hopefully that saves battery, too.
[18:06] <daftykins> very much doubt it
[18:07] <daftykins> i meant a full x86 OS isn't really fitting, there
[18:09] <Sven_vB> I need it to run wine for one of my important travel apps. are there other OS options then?
[18:10] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/install/wine-platform-4-stable/ubuntu
[18:10] <oerheks> maybe that snap is only for other snaps..
[18:10] <daftykins> you keep moving the goalposts so that's me out of this topic :)
[18:11] <Sven_vB> sorry, didn't mean to. should I have listed the entire requirements catalog upfront? :D
[18:12] <daftykins> absolutely
[18:12] <Sven_vB> still, could you elaborate on your "highly recommend avoiding it"?
[18:12] <daftykins> no