[00:03] Hi, looking for a VPS where I can install my own instance of an Ubuntu LTS and is fast+Economic. Any suggestions please? === Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB [00:16] basicly, any VPS service offered with ubuntu is heavily tweaked [00:18] no, we have no wiki with best rates or security testing [00:19] oerheks, Ok, well not a wiki but like .... I was wondering from your own experience [00:22] why renting a vps if you want to setup one yourself? [00:23] Well, my main reason is to store about a TB of data on the cloud, but I want my own VPS so that I have more control [00:24] that's probably enough that you'll need to figure out what your traffic and use patterns will look like, and check out the pricing calculators offered by the various services [00:25] Thanks sarnold [00:26] nextcloud will do. [00:27] oerheks, next cloud is just a s/w, it still needs a server/location to host it on [02:09] Mr_Cyclops: I like prgmr.com [03:12] good morning [03:13] morning/evening/afternoon [03:15] hey joelcrump === Katnip is now known as katnip [06:16] Good morning [06:16] good morning === GR1M0R4CL3_ is now known as GR1M0R4CL3 [09:01] Heya [09:06] knock, knock, who is there?, the cola demon [09:39] hello [09:40] hey [09:40] damn it. someone is alive here. [10:42] I am still alive [10:42] >:) <- cola demon [10:46] good morning, its a beautiful rainy morning in Orlando [10:46] Sun over France and Paris. not a single cloud [13:29] oooooo [13:39] Sven_vB: Hi, not sure if you have time for this question. I am just wondering if you have other reasons for using Xfce than the ones I have. [14:09] GR1M0R4CL3: what have you been helping nbusrone with this whole time? [14:15] yup [14:15] he used some tar commands and broke his /sbin/init [14:15] we have been able to mount in rw his /, chroot to it [14:16] but we have not been able to reinstall the package for 12.04 that contains /sbin/init [14:16] you do realize 12.04 isn't supported here anymore right? [14:16] This is hours worth of work to limp along an unsupported OS [14:17] it would have been quicker for them to install 18.04 and re-install their apps and restore from backup [14:17] perhaps his machine does not support something more recent :/ [14:17] it's a VM [14:18] most recent ubuntu might require a vm upgrade (of the vm soft) [14:22] good excuse to troll maybe [14:31] well i gave him links and info to keep using 12.04 and advice to move to 18.04 or 20.04 [14:32] what he does from now on... his/her choice. [14:32] keep using 12.04 is not the greatest idea GR1M0R4CL3 [14:32] their choice if you like the neutral pronoun [14:33] zmagii: 12.04 is not supported anymore, not the users choice anymore to get support [14:34] GR1M0R4CL3: own compiling is also not supported, would be good if you didnt proceed with advising users after other volunteers already pointed them to the maintainer [14:40] well we advised to move to a security-fixes available LTS [14:41] sometimes people have to shoot their own foot to learn [15:26] is a Raspi with Ubuntu a good equipment for watching movies in VLC and browsing the web in Firefox, at the same time? [15:49] i would have to wonder why you would limit yourself to such a device and still want to do those things [15:51] I searched for a new netbook for hours and wasn't satisfied with the offers, so I thought maybe if I mix and match components separately, I could make a better combination. [15:52] that's a conflicted comparison because 'netbooks' to me were portable basic laptops, then you've mentioned a Pi which is very much not [15:53] oh? then maybe the mini computer I've seen recently wasn't a Pi. [15:53] it would make more sense to buy a capable old generation laptop off ebay, £120+ can get you a ThinkPad with a 4th generation i5 with 8GB RAM and more [15:53] I'd add a small screen and a portable power supply of course. [15:54] i don't think that's worth it [15:55] I'm a bit afraid of used computers though. the latest two notebooks I obtained used, lived for only a few months. [15:56] any clues as to why that was? how did they fail and where were they sourced? [15:56] ThinkPads are great choices for both Linux compatibility and the availability of parts [15:57] one just randomly died tonight while I slept. woke up and the screen was black, power switch no longer has any effect. it still consumes about 14W, seemingly for heating its battery. :D [15:57] yeah I use Thinkpads as well and like them, but I only found them in 14" or larger. [15:58] sensible sizes imo, though there are plenty of 12.5" models, the X2#0 range [15:58] i'd have a go at repairing that one, but that's what i'm into [15:58] what died tonight was an Acer Switch, I'd recommend to not buy them anyway. I only got that one for free because the previous owner dismissed it in favor of a shinier product. [16:00] ah i'm not a fan of hybrid form factor things [16:04] i've had plenty of good luck from ebay devices anywho, you can get some really nice machines for cheap [16:04] there are also refurb companies who give a warranty with theirs, costs more though of course [16:05] do you know good german ones? [16:06] nah [16:06] let's see what ebay has though - https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xthinkpad+x240.TRS0&_nkw=thinkpad+x240&_sacat=0 [16:08] the 12.5" models commonly have 1366x768 resolution LCDs which i can't stand :) [16:24] oh indeed I need more height in pixels. [16:24] at least 800, better 900 [16:25] a client had an X240, he broke the LCD once and i put in a 1920x1080 one - but it's too high res to use 1:1 in a 12.5" imo [16:47] would a Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 10 3rd Gen 20L3000L be able to run Ubuntu? not liking it, but I should check the basics at least. [16:49] i would highly recommend avoiding it [16:50] thanks. :) [17:01] maybe a Lenovo D330? [17:02] you seem to be keen to have a trashy hybrid form factor device [17:07] just checking what's cheap enough that I might consider buying it without being happy about the specs. :) [17:09] back again. :) [17:11] this shop's cheapest offer for a serious one would be a Lenovo ThinkPad X280 [17:13] I wonder what "color range: Gamut 50%" means for the display though. [17:22] nothing too important, that's very new so real money [17:22] they cost more than they're worth new, imo [17:25] it's refurbished, on offer for about 730 EUR, about 800 USD [17:55] meh, a Thinkpad X280 is physically too large for where I want to store it most of the time. what problems would I have to expect with the trashy hybrids? [17:56] I guess mostly it's either VLC or Firefox? [17:57] meaning too weak to run both at the same time reasonably [17:59] to compare, for the past few years I was kinda happy with my Acer Aspire One D255 and D260. they couldn't run both at the same time either, so that limit would be just a non-upgrade. acceptable for the cheapness. [18:01] your requirements seem too strict, why does a storage spot have any bearing o0 [18:02] I need a small travel companion. can be a bit weak if it has to. for occasions where large is acceptable, I have enough full size Thinkpads, fortunately. :) [18:03] i don't think a full 'buntu is really a good fit, then [18:04] oh, of course I remove lots of cruft by default, change to lightdm+xfce etc. [18:04] hopefully that saves battery, too. [18:06] very much doubt it [18:07] i meant a full x86 OS isn't really fitting, there [18:09] I need it to run wine for one of my important travel apps. are there other OS options then? [18:10] https://snapcraft.io/install/wine-platform-4-stable/ubuntu [18:10] maybe that snap is only for other snaps.. [18:10] you keep moving the goalposts so that's me out of this topic :) [18:11] sorry, didn't mean to. should I have listed the entire requirements catalog upfront? :D [18:12] absolutely [18:12] still, could you elaborate on your "highly recommend avoiding it"? [18:12] no