| sharky_pi | Hi folks, anyone up for a quick chat about fstab docs? | 17:42 |
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| sharky_pi | ok well in case people circle back to this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab | 17:46 |
| sharky_pi | 1. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#Pass_.28fsck_order.29 | 17:46 |
| sharky_pi | Pass: I feel it would be good to add a line of context to guide users on how and when to use pass. This is already begun, ("In practice...") but could be completed by giving a bit more info about whether one SHOULD fsck drives. The impression I get is that the value should be 2 for ext2/3/4 drives, and 0 for ntfs drives. But I'm not confident about | 17:48 |
| sharky_pi | that. | 17:48 |
| sharky_pi | 2. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#Options | 17:49 |
| sharky_pi | Common options, 9: "user" - in all the examples below and elsewhere on the web, the nearest term used is "users". Is "user" therefore a typo, or are these different things? | 17:50 |
| sharky_pi | 3. Options 3.1 "I advise" doesn't mention uid or gid, perhaps it should given they're in the examples? | 17:51 |
| sharky_pi | 4. Examples, gid=100 is given but gid=1000 is the norm, as I understand it. Again, is 100 a typo when it should be 1000 in the examples? | 17:51 |
| sharky_pi | 5. For 20.04 and feasibly prior versions, should one install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config before editing fstab? This is advised in old fstab guides but I don't know if it's now moot or if these are included in the OS by default | 17:54 |
| sharky_pi | 6. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#New_Technology_File_System_.28NTFS.29 | 17:54 |
| sharky_pi | For ntfs, explaining how to get locales is helpful. It might be nice to also add a line of context explaining why one might want to set these, e.g. from ArchWiki | 17:57 |
| sharky_pi | "Locales are used for rendering text, correctly displaying regional monetary values, time and date formats, alphabetic idiosyncrasies, and other locale-specific standards." | 17:58 |
| sharky_pi | 7, finally: on the contact y'all page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Contact) the URL for this chat is http://java.freenode.net//index.php?channel=ubuntu-doc but that timed out & failed for me. Might work for others. But perhaps the https://webchat.freenode.net/ would be better? | 17:59 |
| pleia2 | sharky_pi: everything under /community is a wiki, so you can edit it yourself if you join the wiki editors team, let me get the link | 18:02 |
| pleia2 | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors | 18:03 |
| sharky_pi | certainly happy to do so but wanted to bounce some of this off others first, as a MASSIVELY don't want to make edits which are wrong! haha | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | others can't update it for you, since we're not experts on everything :) | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | your edits do seem reasonable though | 18:03 |
| sharky_pi | totally fair enough. just wondering if anyone would mind looking at these proposals and | 18:03 |
| sharky_pi | yeah exactly that, just seeing if i'm getting completely the wrong end of the stick somewhere | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | these were just written by folks who have a bit of time, so there's always room for improvement | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | details aren't ommitted intentionally | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | thanks for your help! | 18:05 |
| sharky_pi | thanks pleia. I'll sign up with the link (thanks again) | 18:06 |
| pleia2 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide has more information about contributing and how things are organized | 18:08 |
| pleia2 | I'll warn you, it's sometimes a little tricky to log in and sometimes you have to clear caches to get rid of the Immutable Page link once you're re-logged in after you're added to the team | 18:09 |
| pleia2 | a lot of protections had to be put in due to bad spam :( | 18:09 |
| sharky_pi | interesting, i'm literally looking into that issue now | 18:12 |
| sharky_pi | completely fresh system, any time i go to login.ubuntu.com I get the ubuntuOne signin page which prepopulates with my old email & password, then flashes to my new email, then old, about 10X in 1 second, then stops at my old email. This isn't stored in firefox, the new working details are stored in lastpass, so I have no idea how the old details | 18:14 |
| sharky_pi | remain, and subsequently I frrequently can't login and typically give up | 18:14 |
| sharky_pi | (I try populating with new details manually or using lastpass but upon clicking submit, it's overwritten by the old info) | 18:14 |
| pleia2 | it sometimes takes me a few tries to log in, but usually I am facing timeout issues x_x | 18:15 |
| sharky_pi | can you think of who might be responsible for this section of the site? I've been bamboozled by this behaviour for years now | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | the folks in #canonical-sysadmin | 18:17 |
| sharky_pi | I figure it *HAS* to be stored within the site itself, since I have an empty firefox password manager and a blank cache | 18:17 |
| sharky_pi | ooh, is that a freenode channel? thansk! | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | they're very aware of the problem, but there is no investment or resources for improving the situation | 18:18 |
| sharky_pi | *thanks | 18:18 |
| sharky_pi | ahaa. Boo. | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | it's been like this for a few years | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | the real solution is switching to wiki software that can handle the scale of the wiki, MoinMoin wasn't built to be as big as the Ubuntu wikis go | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | t | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | but that's a massive project :( | 18:18 |
| sharky_pi | yup. alas :( | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | sorry to be a downer! | 18:20 |
| sharky_pi | hey not at all - MUCH rather get confirmation of bad news than continue in ambiguity! I'm asking the sysadmin channel now, so fingers crossed they can tweak it on the backend | 18:22 |
| pleia2 | I think a large chunk of the team is in the UK, so hopefully you can get someone's attention | 18:23 |
| pleia2 | if you strike out, you can also submit a ticket to them via rt@ubuntu.com | 18:23 |
| sharky_pi | great stuff, will do, thanks again | 18:23 |
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