[00:59] <shinobi>  I cannot ping the interface for my 20.04 machine. UFW shows inactive. Outbound traffic is fine. The pinging machine says "host unreachable". Both machines are on the same subnet and I can ping another machine on the subnet.
[01:02] <sarnold> tcpdump or tshark on both machines?
[01:10] <shinobi> sarnold: I was trying to ping my ubuntu machine from a windows laptop. No Dice. Then I tried pinging the windows laptop from Ubuntu and it worked. I tried pinging Ubuntu from my windows laptop again and now it works.
[01:11] <sarnold> shinobi: oh very strange :/
[01:12] <shinobi> indeed
[01:12] <sarnold> shinobi: do you have 'managed switches' between them? or wifi? sometimes wifi routers will do some "don't let wireless contact wired" things..
[01:12] <shinobi> sarnold: Yes, I have a wifi router between the two
[01:13] <shinobi> Is that a setting or an undocumented feature
[01:14] <sarnold> shinobi: it's usually marketed as a feature, one you can opt in to
[01:14] <ptgolden> hi, I was hoping someone might have a tip for ubuntu ignoring my lock-on-suspend prefs since upgrading to 20.04. I've set the 'Lock on suspend' preference in 'Settings > Privacy > Lock screen', and verified that `gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.screensaver ubuntu-lock-on-suspend` is true, but.. when I suspend my computer (closing the lid, or pressing the power button), the screen is not locked when I
[01:14] <ptgolden> resume. this is new since updating last month. any ideas?
[01:18] <sarnold> ptgolden: might be best to file a bug, ubuntu-bug gnome-shell, and describe what you're seeing
[01:25] <ptgolden> sarnold: thanks, will do
[01:48] <trollboy> I've got a software raid10 partion w/ 1 out of the 4 drives dead.  I've got a same sized disk on /dev/sde and /dev/sdc.  Can I adjust my raid settings to use one of those as the replacement for the dead /dev/sdb?
[02:21] <tatertots> trollboy: reconfiguring is "destructive" do you have a backup?
[02:22] <tatertots> trollboy: if you have a back up, reconfigure away
[02:36] <AppAraat[m]> hi, so I'm on Ubuntu 18.04, and still have my ~/.steam/ dir. What's the best way to install Steam and preserve whatever is inside there?
[02:54] <p0a> Hello
[02:55] <p0a> why does my 19.10 get stuck on shutdown when I run `sudo halt'?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> p0a: Maybe because it is now systemd - what results now with ' systemctl halt ' ? ( no sudo required)
[03:44] <p0a> I will have to test it, thank you
[04:17] <ra> p0a, i use: shutdown now
[04:17] <p0a> thanks ra
[04:17] <p0a> I Will try hsutdonw
[04:17] <p0a> seems easier to remember
[04:43] <bolovanos> hithere - I have extended partition under which I have free space https://pasteboard.co/Jag8XRD.png. How one creates from this free space primary partition (move it form under extended partition)?
[04:50] <geeeeeeze> hey everyone-please-what command on terminal will supply me with the ip address i need to use to make ssh connection
[04:51] <geeeeeeze> google is giving me varied results and i know some didnt work last time i got it working
[04:54] <p0a> geeeeeeze: what do you have?
[04:54] <p0a> a domain name?
[04:55] <p0a> you can use `host domain-name.com'
[05:14] <INeedAHandle> is there a way to add a virtual interface under netplan? so far the internet is saying no. if that's the case, how do I add one?
[05:15] <SynfulAck> Does ubuntu have repos that provide kmods for drivers not included in default installs?
[05:26] <geeeeeeze> p0a thanks for your reply, was fully zoned out sorry; i ended up getting it working with two commands "ifconfig" lols, and "hostname -I"
[05:27] <geeeeeeze> lol i hadnt enable the service on the rasperypi 3b(you asked earlier) either and when i did all worked
[05:35] <BT40> Hi. Everytime I open another partition, ubuntu 20.04 says Authentication required twice. Even during copying data it appears and asks for authentication. Earlier ubuntu versions didn't behave such.
[05:36] <BT40> In betweenpasting data, same dialog box appears.
[05:36] <BT40> In nautilus, top side it is written administrator root
[05:36] <BT40> How to fix this
[05:36] <BT40> please help
[05:40] <BT40> This is screenshot of both.    https://pasteboard.co/JagwiWD.png               https://pasteboard.co/JagwLDe.png
[06:59] <`mist> hey guys, somehow i've messed up my dns resolution by trying to install resolvconf. Now i can't seem to figure out how to get it working again. Running Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS \n \l
[07:17] <wiml> Apport and ubuntu-bug fail for me with "The problem cannot be reported: This problem report is damaged and cannot be processed. PermissionError(13, 'Permission denied')"  ... Any hints on how to diagnose? Or how to report this bug in the bug-reporting software?
[08:10] <avri> I have two disks - one of them hdd the other ssd. On the hdd I used to have windows installed, so it has the old windows ntfs filesystem there. On the ssd I have Ubuntu  installed. For some reason I had several partitions on this 256gb drive, the first was a small efi boot partition, the second and third were both 256gb partitions, but only the
[08:10] <avri> third was the actual partition with the filesystem. When booting, I had to hit F12 and select the SSD drive - otherwise grub would load up (could not find a way to configure the bios to boot directly from the SSD - it would list several 'ubuntu' options, none of which worked, but not the SSD drive which is primary master). I was able to boot from
[08:10] <avri> grub, by typing: 'linux (hd0,msdos5)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb5' followed by: 'initrd (hd0,msdos5)/boot/initrd.img' and 'boot'
[08:11] <avri> After booted into Ubuntu, I deleted what I though was a bad partition, the first 256gb partition of the SSD
[08:11] <avri> now I can't boot to Ubuntu even by typing the above commands in grub rescue (normal grub does not load)
[08:12] <avri> grub rescue complains: "error : no such device: ...UUID..." and "error : unknown filesystem."
[08:13] <avri> ls shows (hd0) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1)
[08:13] <avri> is this recoverable? if so, how?
[08:13] <EriC^^> avri: are you using encryption?
[08:13] <avri> nope
[08:13] <EriC^^> avri: ok, type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[08:14] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[08:14] <avri> no sudo
[08:14] <avri> I am in grub rescue
[08:14] <EriC^^> do you have a live usb?
[08:14] <avri> yes
[08:14] <EriC^^> boot it
[08:16] <avri> hmmm seems like boot-repair installed grub also on my connected flash drive with Ubuntu installation - so now it also goes into grub rescue mode :/
[08:16] <avri> I have a dvd installation - will try that
[08:17] <EriC^^> avri: i think it's not booting it, still booting ubuntu
[08:17] <avri> yes, because I told boot-repair to install grub on all disks
[08:17] <avri> and the usb drive was connected and had an OS on it...
[08:18] <avri> ok - it's booting from Ubuntu installation dvd
[08:19] <eliyahutbr> morning folks. don't know if anyone from 12 hours ago is around. I did an ISO install of LTS and needed to import a .crt from my ISP into my root, so I did this, and then my a-certificates.conf was link this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qhQDhtzVks/ but when I try to run snap, i get this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WFBdP4Gm6h/ . Any suggestions on what steps I can take next?
[08:19] <eliyahutbr> i left out the first paste bin
[08:19] <eliyahutbr> so I did this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xDJTshqPtc/
[08:27] <vlt> eliyahutbr: Even on a 16.04 LTS machine I just tested on the ssl connection to canonical-bos01.cdn.snapcraft.io (cert by LetsEncrypt from 2020-05-18) works fine.
[08:29] <ocean> eliyahutbr: from https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xDJTshqPtc/ it seems that your added "extra/myca.crt" did not get imported (as it clearly states 0 added, 0 removed)
[08:30] <eliyahutbr> i then ran https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6zV93tNG95/ and it says at the bottom 1 added, 0 removed; done.
[08:31] <avri> https://termbin.com/9kp7
[08:32] <avri> it seems I deleted all partitions in /dev/sdb
[08:33] <eliyahutbr> ahh. "rehash: warning: skipping myca.pem,it does not contain exactly one certificate or CRL
[08:33] <eliyahutbr> " is that the problem? and what do I do to address it?
[08:33] <EriC^^> avri: yeah, do you have an old pastebin of your partition table or any fdisk/parted output?
[08:33] <avri> nope :/
[08:34] <EriC^^> avri: ok, you can install testdisk from the universe repo and it might be able to retrieve the lost partitions locations
[08:34] <EriC^^> sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install testdisk
[08:39] <avri> ok - Analyze finds them
[08:40] <eliyahutbr> how can I view/edit a .pem file?
[08:41] <avri> I restored the EFI boot partition but how do I restore the other following 2 deleted partitions?
[08:42] <avri> they are marked as D (deleted) - how to I "undelete"?
[08:42] <avri> s/to/do
[08:46] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zyTvZ4DHHw/ my work on "rehash: warning: skipping myca.pem,it does not contain exactly one certificate or CRL" any suggestions? I'm still stuck
[08:48] <EriC^> avri: use the arrow keys to make them P/L etc
[08:48] <EriC^> avri: pastebin the testdisk results
[08:51] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VCmJWCyqC3/ a summary of what my problem is and where I'm at. Once I solve the issue, i want to turn this into a tutorial for other people who have the same issue (and I'm sure that other people do, see https://scikcd.blogspot.com/2017/09/install-internet-rimon-root-certificate.html)
[08:57] <ThinkT510> eliyahutbr: just a minor suggestion from your paste: if you are planning to make it into a tutorial you may want to suggest nano rather than vi for editing a file. most who would require a tutorial of that sort probably are not familiar with vi keybindings
[08:58] <eliyahutbr> i'm the other way around. I know vi, but not nano
[08:58] <eliyahutbr> from like a decade ago when I used ubuntu
[08:59] <eliyahutbr> but when I get the issue actually solved, i'll take your advice
[08:59] <eliyahutbr> already updated the "guide"
[08:59] <eliyahutbr> any suggestions as to how to proceed?
[09:00] <eliyahutbr> Based on something I read in a forum I tried "foo@foo-ubuntu-lts~$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssl" without any success
[09:02] <ThinkT510> i've never had to delve into handling certificates so i'm not going to be of much help sorry
[09:07] <eliyahutbr> Hopefully this will get some traction https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2444235&p=13960623#post13960623
[09:09] <osse> When I run xfreerdp it shows with an icon in the sidebar. I cannot find that icon anywhere on my system. Is the sidebar able to show icons embedded into an executable? If not, any tips on how to locate it?
[09:19] <EriC^> avri: any luck?
[09:20] <avri> EriC^^: still scanning /dev/sdb
[09:20] <avri> 37%
[09:21] <avri> doing a deep scan
[09:38] <OnceMe> hi someone on linux having issue with thunderbird not showing/displaying unread messages on an icon?
[09:39] <GR1M0R4CL3> hello
[09:46] <mihael> I'm using Ubuntu 18 server, ufw, how do I configure port forwarding for specific IP Addresses?
[09:48] <MuertoLives> mihael: https://askubuntu.com/questions/660972/port-forwarding-with-ufw
[09:50] <mihael> MuertoLives: thanks, I'll give it a read
[09:51] <kieto> Hi! Did anyone here try to setup a windows10 VM with KVM/Qemu in Ubuntu 20.04?
[09:51] <kieto> I would like to get some pointers or a guide, because I tried to set it up just following my instinct, and I failed
[09:56] <mihael> MuertoLives: tried this one, it gives me Bad argument `*filter`.
[09:59] <ThinkT510> kieto: perhaps using a gui like aqemu might make things more straightforward
[10:01] <OnceMe> hi someone on linux having issue with thunderbird not showing/displaying unread messages on an icon?
[10:06] <kieto> ThinkT510: thing is, right now I'm following a guide, but no disk is detected https://imgur.com/ELbTagd
[10:08] <ThinkT510> kieto: did you create a disk? i'm guessing that is a separate prerequisite step before trying to install. aqemu would have walked you through that process
[10:09] <kieto> ThinkT510: yes, sorry, now I say it in the guide section that I forgot to do that
[10:16] <mihael> Tried insert nat rules on ufw, doesn't seem to show up when I run iptables command to display firewall rules
[10:41] <eliyahutbr> hey guys
[10:42] <eliyahutbr> https://fossies.org/linux/WhatWeb/plugins/internet-rimon-filter.rb
[10:42] <eliyahutbr> could someone explain what that is and how it might (or not) help me w/ the issue I'm having installing my ISP cert as root?
[10:43] <akik> isp cert for what?
[10:44] <akik> .rb is ruby language
[10:45] <akik> eliyahutbr: i would be really suspicious if my isp wanted me to install their cert in my system
[10:52] <alguien> i ran update-manager -d, but I was not offered to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu (I am on 19.10), why is that? The update manager only offered to update ubuntu base and a couple of other packages.
[10:52] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:55] <alguien> Sorry, restarted. Still stuck on 19.10. Anyone say anything perhaps?
[10:59] <arm1e> hello
[11:00] <arm1e> I cannot connect my wbfs partition to 20.04 since it no longer has qt4 libraries and therefore the wbfsmanagers will not install
[11:00] <arm1e> I have installed wit, but the wfuse command is not recognised.
[11:01] <ncuxo> Hello is nvidia driver 304 supported in 20.04LTS?
[11:03] <alguien> nvm i guess I had to update my sources or something
[11:03] <alguien> not that I did that explicitly, but I think that's what happened when I went to the software center and checked for updates there
[11:14] <eliyahutbr> duplicity restore --no-encryption --no-compression file:/// HOW DO I INSERT A MOUNTED GOOGLE DRIVE HERE ~/holding_folder/
[11:15] <Kniaz> test
[11:15] <eliyahutbr> pass
[11:18] <syrax> \quit
[11:18] <alguien> fail
[11:20] <alguien> eliyahutbr, I dono't know, where did you mount it, /mount/elias/google_drive? If so, then I reckon you add /mount/elias/google_drive onto your "file://" if indeed you need the file (protocol) part. I don't know duplicity.
[11:20] <spectrezh> Hi.. Anyone managed to enable hibernation on popos? Ive gottens o far as to getting system to hibernate and wake up correctly with command line. But popos doesnt use grub so I dont know where to add those entries from the tutorials.. and Also there is no option for hibernate in the GUI
[11:28] <eliyahutbr> alquien i mouted it from the GUI
[11:29] <eliyahutbr> is there a graphic pastbin?
[11:29] <eliyahutbr> https://pasteboard.co/JaiODss.png
[11:52] <ubufan> Hi, searched through forum as need help - it is easy to move files with specific extensions to another folder with find and xargs - but what if I have MP4 folder and want to move every folder which contains any *mp4 to MP4 folder? Like if folder1 and folder2 contain any *mp4, move those two folder to MP4 - can that be done with find and xargs or with loops?
[11:57] <ikonia> yes,
[11:57] <ubufan> or nvm, will do that with find an exec
[12:14] <nbusrone> hi , I am having problem after restoring ubuntu into .vdi or virtualbox . UUID error Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bcSDHbsM9k/
[12:17] <nbusrone> I had run  fsck -f /dev/sda1
[12:17] <nbusrone> but doesn't work
[12:24] <GR1M0R4CL3> seems the partition with /sbin is not mounted
[12:24] <GR1M0R4CL3> have any idea how the contents of the vdi were partitioned ?
[12:25] <GR1M0R4CL3> you are using windows + ubuntu inside a virtualbox ?
[12:26] <GR1M0R4CL3> and why the restore, did something went wrong, if so, what ?
[12:27] <GR1M0R4CL3> what does : VBoxManage showhdinfo <path/to/your/file.vdi>
[12:27] <GR1M0R4CL3> does show ?
[12:27] <nbusrone> I boot to recovery at boot menu to run for a fix but all command I type is not found. (initramfs) /bin/sh: not found
[12:28] <gryffus> Hello, is there some documentation specifying possible values for a preseed.cfg parameters? I need specifically "partman-auto/init_autimatically_partition"
[12:30] <GR1M0R4CL3> well you can download gparted.iso and boot it in an additional VM and have the .iso as boot in CD + the hard-disk from your VM as disk so you can look inside
[12:30] <GR1M0R4CL3> i would do that to make a backup to some USB key or something before doing anything else  : start with a backup
[12:30] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : I make it simple , I did a tar follow this instruction https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 and untar into a .vdi partition sda1.After that I run boot-repair on a live CD to fix the grub.But the result is UUID error Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[12:32] <GR1M0R4CL3> the untar was done on the same vdi or in a new one in a separate virtualbox machine ?
[12:33] <GR1M0R4CL3> do you have data inside that vdi you need to preserve ?
[12:34] <GR1M0R4CL3> download the ubuntu .iso for livecd
[12:34] <GR1M0R4CL3> select it as bootable iso for your virtualmachine and boot from the ISO
[12:35] <GR1M0R4CL3> once you are inside the LiveCD, a first step is (1) backup and (2) check he contents of the hard-disk (contents of the vdi)
[12:35] <GR1M0R4CL3> especially, I'd start with a fsck on each partition to see if they have been unmounted properly or if any error is there
[12:37] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : tar from old partition 12.04 , create a .vdi with partition table sda.Boot at live cd untar into sda1.Repair with boot-repair.Reboot and I get this problem
[12:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> go have a look of what your vdi does contain using livecd
[12:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> go check if you have a /sbin and if so, if it does contain the /sbin/init or not
[12:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> just have a look inside without touching anything to see if the file is there, or not, and if the reported error message really tells us what's happening
[12:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> i directly use ubuntu on machines so i am no expert on virtualbox :)
[12:39] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : he .vdi sda1 partition contain  /sbin/init
[12:39] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : the .vdi sda1 partition contain  /sbin/init
[12:42] <GR1M0R4CL3> ok
[12:42] <GR1M0R4CL3>  / is mounted at boot
[12:42] <GR1M0R4CL3> so i guess your / does not itself contain /sbin and /sbin is on a separate partition ?
[12:43] <GR1M0R4CL3> we can reinstall it
[12:43] <GR1M0R4CL3> we boot the livecd. mount in rw the partition in .vdi
[12:44] <GR1M0R4CL3> drop a valid dns in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:44] <GR1M0R4CL3> and then you use apt-get install init
[12:44] <GR1M0R4CL3> followed by update-initramfs -u
[12:46] <GR1M0R4CL3> i insist on doing a backup before trying anything..
[12:46] <GR1M0R4CL3> boot the livecd. mount your /dev/sda1 /mnt
[12:46] <GR1M0R4CL3> chroot /mnt
[12:46] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : I already tar it so it's already backup
[12:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> you can drop the google dns in resolv in etch by doing : unlink /etc/resolv.conf && echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf
[12:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> followed by re-installation of the init program : apt-get install init && update-initramfs -u
[12:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> do not forget the chroot
[12:48] <leftyfb> GR1M0R4CL3: etch?
[12:48] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : chroot ? not sudo ?
[12:49] <GR1M0R4CL3> yup chroot
[12:49] <GR1M0R4CL3> you will be already root or should be root once you booted the livecd
[12:49] <GR1M0R4CL3> you remount as read-write the dev/sda1 by doing : mount -rw -o remount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[12:50] <GR1M0R4CL3> if you properly attached the vdi as hard disk to a new virtualmachine booting the livecd this should give us write access to sda1
[12:50] <GR1M0R4CL3> before doing the mount in write mode, I would fsck the partition to check it
[12:51] <GR1M0R4CL3> a fsck -N so it does nothing but report to us
[12:51] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : chroot  /mnt /dev/sda1 chroot: cannot change root directory to 'mnt' : operation not permitted
[12:51] <GR1M0R4CL3> change to root
[12:51] <GR1M0R4CL3> sudo su -
[12:51] <GR1M0R4CL3> should do
[12:52] <GR1M0R4CL3> sda1 is mounted as read only or write too ?
[12:52] <GR1M0R4CL3> a mount | grep sda
[12:52] <GR1M0R4CL3> should tell us /dev/sda1 is mounted, and you will have a rw after the first ( if write mode is enabled
[12:53] <GR1M0R4CL3> on my system. dev/sda1 is /boot/efi and my / is mounted at /dev/sda5
[12:53] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : I already mention already untar the tar file into .vdi
[12:54] <GR1M0R4CL3> ok
[12:54] <GR1M0R4CL3> once root you do : chroot /mnt
[12:54] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : Actually I am confuse , what should I do now ?
[12:54] <GR1M0R4CL3> assuming the partition is mounted at /mnt
[12:54] <GR1M0R4CL3> so /mnt becomes our new / and commands we will run will use /mnt as /
[12:55] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : At live CD , I cam mount the partition other locations 46GB
[12:55] <GR1M0R4CL3> yup mount the partition somewhere and chroot to it
[12:55] <GR1M0R4CL3> by being root and using : chroot /where/you/mounted/the/partition
[12:56] <GR1M0R4CL3> chroot will mask the livecd / and the mounted partition becomes our new /
[12:56] <GR1M0R4CL3> so we can work inside of it without trying to touch the livecd part
[12:57] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : done
[12:57] <ph88> how can i enable third party sources when doing a dist upgrade ?  https://bpa.st/FYHQ
[12:57] <GR1M0R4CL3> ok now we need internet access
[12:58] <GR1M0R4CL3> unlink /etc/resolv.conf
[12:58] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : root@ubuntu: /#
[12:58] <GR1M0R4CL3> echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /etc/resolv.conf
[12:58] <GR1M0R4CL3> so we put google's dns as our dns to have apt-get work
[12:59] <ocean> GR1M0R4CL3: can you please address who you are speaking to by starting the line with the other persons nick? (otherwise it might be confusing for whoever you are answering to)
[13:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> talking to nbusrone
[13:00] <Sven_vB> hi! using Xenial, is there a way to virtually split my screen? I'd like to operate the right side normally with lightdm/xfce/xrandr, but have the left side be a virtual console that always runs my script. or run an X with xterm and my script.
[13:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: once the 8.8.8.8 dns is installed, we will try to reinstall init using apt-get
[13:00] <ocean> ph88: see here: https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-repositories/
[13:01] <Sven_vB> the idea is that the script shall not be interrupted by lightdm login/logout
[13:06] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : It looks like things are different here , the resolv.conf is not in /etc/ but in /etc/ppp/resolv.conf and /etc/init/resolvconf.conf .Most of the command you post not found.Is it due to different old distro file location ?
[13:06] <ocean> ph88: I might have misunderstood your question. During a release upgrade (which is not the same as a dist-upgrade) all 3rd party repos are disabled. Only after the release upgrade is finished you can re-enable 3rd party repos by editing the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[13:07] <GR1M0R4CL3> if you look at the mounted sda1, it does contain your machine etc ?
[13:07] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : Will it be much easier if I just sudo nautilus and go to the partition and gedit the .conf ?
[13:07] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: we need to know where the current /etc is
[13:08] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: could you show us the output for : sudo fdisk -l | grep sda
[13:08] <GR1M0R4CL3> so we see all partitions available on the /dev/sda device ?
[13:12] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FrWkYdbZwH/
[13:13] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: your sda1 does contain everything. so it should contain an etc at its root
[13:13] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : Sorry , it takes a lot of time , I can't copy text from live CD booted in Vbox guest and copy to host irc here. I need to manually trype the link out so it takes a bit of time
[13:13] <GR1M0R4CL3> after doing the chroot /mnt/where/sda/is/mounted the new / should be where your sda1 etc is
[13:13] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: you have done the chroot so a ls / | grep etc should show us your sda1 etc contents : does that work ?
[13:14] <GR1M0R4CL3> does ls -l /etc/resolv*
[13:14] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: show anything ?
[13:15] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: the chroot launched a new shell. so doing an "exit" will drop you out of the chroot if you need
[13:15] <conjo> can someone tell me how to clear out all my ssh setups (think they are called keys) i want to connect to a pi and have reinstalled the os and pihole software now cant ssh in cuz of warning about remote host id changed(its the reinstall that has caused it
[13:16] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: they are all stored inside your ~/.ssh
[13:16] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: look for a known_hosts file
[13:16] <conjo> so if i delete the contents of that all will be good to start over (this is all i use ssh for)
[13:16] <conjo> the pi
[13:17] <GR1M0R4CL3> it will redisplay the fingerprint of SSH servers you connect to and ask for a "yes"
[13:17] <GR1M0R4CL3> makes it forget known SSH Servers by removing their fingerprint you previously recorded from them
[13:18] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: do an exit to get out of the chroot. then check that ls /mnt/where/sda/is/mounted does show your sda1 etc folder contents
[13:18] <conjo> delete em all yeah (i have been trouble shooting)
[13:19] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[13:19] <conjo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DsN4skjY47/
[13:19] <conjo> nice thank you
[13:19] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: you either remove the whole file, or edit it and remove the line for the server.
[13:20] <conjo> how would i check a fingerprint against a key
[13:20] <conjo> like the warning was talking about
[13:20] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: you need to ask the server admin for the fingerprint, then connect and compare
[13:21] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: if you do not you assume you are talking to the proper server securely, which is maybe not the case
[13:21] <conjo> i was supplied a finger print when i tried to connect to the pi
[13:21] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: then, each following ssh connection will report if the fingerprint changes. if it changes, it means you are not talking to the previously known server
[13:21] <conjo> prolly very basic setup as i dont know what im doing i will tell you the commands i used now
[13:21] <conjo> on a pastebin
[13:21] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: your first ssh should display a messages showing the fingerprint and ask for a "yes" confirmation
[13:22] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BSWpsVtg9x/
[13:22] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : is this chroot
[13:23] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" > /media/ubuntu/9da59c61-4857-4017-a29a-860d749f5a4c/etc/resolv.conf
[13:23] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: this should put a resolv.conf with the dns for google's first dns
[13:23] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: just cd to /media/ubuntu/9da59c61-4857-4017-a29a-860d749f5a4c/etc/
[13:23] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: then do the echo command to put a proper resolv.conf file
[13:24] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: then we do the chroot and get-apt to reinstall init
[13:25] <conjo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5G7jqMSCVp/
[13:26] <conjo> i did get that in the past then i did a fresh install on the pi and my pc had old ssh keys/fingerprints and the hostname hadnt changed(pi) so i think the conflict is there (am i correct)
[13:26] <leftyfb> conjo: first off, do not use sudo when calling your ssh client
[13:26] <conjo> just learning ssh
[13:27] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: yup. sudo should not be used when using ssh
[13:27] <conjo> i thought i was going to be told that and thanks for the warning good to know
[13:27] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: ssh uses your current username to log to distant servers when used
[13:27] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: if you put a sudo in front of it, it will try to ssh as root which is usually forbidden
[13:27] <conjo> k
[13:27] <zmagii> Is there any major differences if I used Xfce over Gnome?
[13:28] <conjo> yes xfce looks like something else
[13:28] <zmagii> I've used Ubuntu Studio, which uses Xfce, and am wondering if maybe I should just switch to Xubuntu while I am at it.
[13:28] <leftyfb> GR1M0R4CL3: yes, but he did specify a user, so the biggest difference with using sudo at that point is it not using any local ssh private keys for the user
[13:28] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: if the user on the distant server is blabla then ssh command becomes : ssh blabla@ip
[13:28] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : Done creating a resolv.conf with nameserver 8.8.8.8 google
[13:28] <conjo> cool thank you
[13:28] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: ok now we have to chroot properly
[13:28] <conjo> very much
[13:29] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: chroot /media/ubuntu/9da59c61-4857-4017-a29a-860d749f5a4c/
[13:29] <GR1M0R4CL3> so the mounted sda contents become our new /
[13:29] <zmagii> conjo: In Gnome, can you for example hide the window bar completely? In Ubuntu Studio it's easy to do.
[13:29] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: to check do : cat /etc/resolv.conf
[13:29] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: should display our new resolv.conf file
[13:31] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: we do this so the apt-get command will install the init binary at the right place
[13:32] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : already have the file.  cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8
[13:33] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : how to install the init binary
[13:33] <Sven_vB> zmagii, in Xubuntu 14.04 I had bluetooth driver problems. I solved them by installing the regular Ubuntu, then installing xfce and uninstalling gnome.
[13:33] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: after the chroot is done you do this :
[13:33] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt-get install init
[13:33] <GR1M0R4CL3> this will reinstall the package with the /sbin/init file and what it needs
[13:34] <GR1M0R4CL3> once done, doing a ls -l /sbin/init should show us a newly installed file
[13:34] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: if it doesnt want to install the file you can try : apt-get reinstall init
[13:36] <zmagii> Sven_vB: Do you prefer Xfce in general, and why?
[13:36] <lotus|NUC> !discuss | zmagii
[13:37] <zmagii> lotus|NUC: Can you hide the bar on top of the menubar completely in Gnome?
[13:37] <conjo> GRIM0R4CL3-that all worked a treat thank you for teaching me about that it was driving me nuts
[13:38] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: ssh is very strict about rights over .ssh
[13:39] <GR1M0R4CL3> conjo: if you get some weird errors messages check the .ssh and evevything inside is chroot 700 (read-write only for your user)
[13:40] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : not installing  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jSQ4RppNJZ/
[13:41] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: ok we need to find the proper package name
[13:41] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt-get update
[13:41] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: that works right ?
[13:42] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: init is inside the package upstart i think
[13:42] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : i did update before hand , maybe it is not at chrootenviroment
[13:42] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt-get install upstart
[13:42] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: if I trust packages.ubuntu.com the /sbin/init file is stored inside the "upstart" package
[13:44] <Sven_vB> zmagii, I prefer xfce because it seems to have lower graphics requirements.
[13:44] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : not installing  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wxKjnSgSwF/
[13:44] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: init is systemd. when systemd runs it is as PID 1 as /sbin/init
[13:46] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt search init
[13:46] <conjo> cheers again
[13:46] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: does that report something ?
[13:46] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : the init is in /sbin/init
[13:47] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : It's clearly show when i search using nautilus search not in command
[13:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: init is a meta-package that ensures a init system is installed
[13:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt install init
[13:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: don't use apt-get. use apt
[13:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt install init
[13:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt install init
[13:47] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: this should repair the /sbin/init missing thing
[13:48] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : not installing  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XwPHXhCzMh/
[13:49] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: seems you have apt-get but not apt
[13:50] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt-get install -y init
[13:50] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : the last line is apt install init
[13:51] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: it seems it says it cannot find the "init" meta package
[13:51] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: what ubuntu version are you using ?
[13:51] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : let me guess one thing , most of the pkg already outdate or prge from main because of old OS 12.04
[13:52] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : even I try to install synaptic is not successfully
[13:52] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : most are being remove
[13:52] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: the apt-get update should have fetched the list of available packages for our 12.04 version. assuming you are also using a 12.04 livecd
[13:52] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : ??? nope, I am using 18.04 live cd
[13:53] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : will it be the cause ?
[13:53] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: maybe. you should use the livecd in the same version as the contents of the vdi
[13:53] <zmagii> Sven_vB: Thanks---I think that is more of a priority for me as well, and hence a sensible use case. I'll try it out and see...
[13:53] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : i will need to download it since I don't think i still keep the .iso 12.04 around .
[13:55] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: we need to find which package did contain /sbin/init in 12.04 (precise pangolin)
[13:55] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : If everything not working , will try and clone .I prefer to tar the OS itself because I can exclude some media directory and conserve space.
[13:55] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt search systemd-sysv
[13:55] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt search upstart-sysv
[13:55] <CaffeineGuy> Good morning folks-- any reiserfs wizards in here? I've had --rebuild-tree fail twice, wondering what the next step is. (I've run a smartctl -tlong on both drives of my raid1, and done a raid1 --check)
[13:55] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: does your apt find one of those packages ?
[13:56] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : command crash
[13:56] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt-cache search systemd-sysv
[13:59] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : command crash https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VzkRnSNqJ3/
[14:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: seems it doesnt find anything but it does not look like a crash. unless it spits out an error message
[14:00] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: does your /etc/apt/sources.list point to the old-releases.ubuntu.com servers ?
[14:01] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: 12.04 is precise pangolin, so we should see in the sources.lst lines with : http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise ....
[14:01] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : If I use a a file browser nautilus I can find systemd in /etc and /lib
[14:02] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: so you may be using upstart instead of systemd
[14:02] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: apt-cache search upstart-sysv
[14:03] <forgotmynick> i have chroot sftp setup and works great but there is a subdirectory that i don't want accessible by the user but i need readable by the users process. how can i do this?
[14:03] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/
[14:03] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: all the images and iso can be found there if you need
[14:03] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: because it is an old LTS we need to be sure your /etc/apt/sources.list does point properly to the old-releases now
[14:04] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: example of proper sources.list here : https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/precise
[14:04] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: ignore the french parts and look at the gray box with the sources.list contents
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> 12.04 is eol..
[14:04] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : I goto the source.list at /etc/apt/sources.list and it 12.04  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pt3PgYcrMV/
[14:06] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: i dont know if contents are ok or not. since that LTS is now very old the contents should be found at old-releases.ubuntu.com now
[14:07] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: it is possible all the packages have been moved to old-releases and your sources.list is not up to date with this change
[14:07] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : I know , that is why I plan to remove and format the partition but there are some application which stop support in late 18.04 or 20.04 .I plan to tar the whole file and paste on the .vdi to access it
[14:07] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: might explain why we cant find the package we need
[14:08] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : I really thanks for the help , really appreciate the time you spend for the help , it's more than an hour for your precious time.
[14:08] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: you can make a backup. then download the 12.04 iso and reinstall
[14:08] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : I would try not to tar it but to clone it again using clone zilla and restore on a vdi
[14:08] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: then put back your files :)
[14:09] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: and once done, you should make a backup of the sources.list file, edit it to point to the old-releases.ubuntu.com and see
[14:09] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: use the sources.list gray content @ https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/precise
[14:10] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: latest 12.04.4 @ old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.4
[14:10] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: if you go up you will find 12.04.3, 12.04.2, 12.04.1 and 12.04 folders too
[14:10] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: there, you can find all the .iso files you might need for 12.04
[14:11] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: that tar might have damaged more than sbin :/
[14:12] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: so i would first backup my home folder + /etc and re-install the 12.04 (ideally, 12.04.4)
[14:12] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : Will try it out that way , now finding the archive of old 12.04 .Sometimes application like old open office only works on old release which had stop support.
[14:12] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: then boot it, mv sources.list sources.list.old and install a new sources.list targetting old-releases.ubuntu.com
[14:12] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: do a update + upgrade and put back my data
[14:13] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : I had tar the whole OS and home mostly are in it .
[14:13] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: by targeting old-releases.ubuntu.com you still have access to all the packages that 12.04 used
[14:13] <ph88> what's the difference between a dist upgrade and a release upgrade ?
[14:14] <GR1M0R4CL3> upgrade never removes any packages
[14:14] <GR1M0R4CL3> upgrade will add or update packages, never remove anything
[14:14] <GR1M0R4CL3> dist-upgrade will remove anything it thinks needs to go for a new package installation
[14:14] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : I will try do a proper way by cloning it but size would be large since I cannot exclude some directory.
[14:15] <GR1M0R4CL3> dist-upgrade *may* remove some packages
[14:15] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : Unlike tar which I can exclude some media folder
[14:15] <BluesKaj> a dist upgrade just upgrades the current OS packages,  release upgrade upgrades to the next release if there is one
[14:16] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : really appreciate for an hour of help
[14:18] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : just wonder , some application are install through deb which are not save at sources.list , how do I update those application install through deb ?
[14:18] <leftyfb> nbusrone: can I ask, why don't you just re-install with an OS that is still supported? (12.04 is EOL)
[14:19] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: your current sources.list should contain everything you need. but since 12.04 is no longer supported, its packages have been moved to old-releases.ubuntu.co
[14:19] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: grab a copy of the sources.list and you might need to add the missing iines in your reinstall
[14:19] <GR1M0R4CL3> moving to a newer LTS would be better
[14:20] <GR1M0R4CL3> 18.04 or 20.04
[14:20] <GR1M0R4CL3> 18.04 good until 2023 (+ security updates for a few years more). 20.04 = latest LTS
[14:20] <leftyfb> 20.04 would be the way to go
[14:21] <GR1M0R4CL3> my 18.04 is looking at you :p
[14:21] <leftyfb> nbusrone: Is there any good reason you shouldn't just install 20.04?
[14:22] <GR1M0R4CL3> nostalgia :D
[14:22] <leftyfb> I said "good" reason
[14:23] <nbusrone> leftyfb : Some Application are not make into 20.04 at ppa where 18.04 is available.
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: every ubuntu version has packages incoming and leaving..
[14:25] <nbusrone> leftyfb : Old extension browser works on older browser firefox which new 20.04 will not install old firefox build due to old  dependencies
[14:25] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: if that vm is connected to internet or bring files from there, moving to 18.04 which contains security updates (or 20.04) is advised for your system's security
[14:25] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: 12.04 is no longer receiving security fixes
[14:26] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: your openoffice will be there, but named "libre office" if you are thinking of it
[14:27] <Bey0ndB1nary> Hi
[14:27] <leftyfb> nbusrone: there's a reason those old applications and browser extensions aren't available on newer released. It usually means they are unsupported and insecure and you should stop using them
[14:29] <Bey0ndB1nary> I am trying to install "Termite" in Ubuntu 20.04 and when compiling getting this error -->   https://pastebin.com/m4FHQ8xw
[14:29] <Bey0ndB1nary> Could someone check and suggest?
[14:29] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: perhaps use 2 VMs. one with 12.04 with your firefox and extension. and for everything else, a modern secure 20.04
[14:30] <leftyfb> Bey0ndB1nary: you'll have to contact the "Termite" project for support
[14:30] <GR1M0R4CL3> Bey0ndB1nary: tried : https://computingforgeeks.com/install-termite-terminal-on-ubuntu-18-04-ubuntu-16-04-lts/ ?
[14:31] <Bey0ndB1nary> @leftyfb , do they have channel here in IRC?
[14:31] <leftyfb> Bey0ndB1nary: I do not know. Check where you downloaded it from
[14:31] <Bey0ndB1nary> GR1M0R4CL3:YES< I've tried the smae link you've mentioned.
[14:32] <GR1M0R4CL3> Bey0ndB1nary: contacting them with that info is the next move :)
[14:32] <Bey0ndB1nary> GR1M0R4CL3: Tried the same link.
[14:32] <GR1M0R4CL3> Bey0ndB1nary: they have a git : open an issue there perhaps ?
[14:32] <Bey0ndB1nary> GR1M0R4CL3: is that a discontinued project ?
[14:33] <GR1M0R4CL3> Bey0ndB1nary: well if it's discontinued.. you might have to either do it yourself, or find someone that might help :/
[14:33] <leftyfb> Bey0ndB1nary: please seek https://github.com/thestinger/termite for support with termite
[14:33] <Bey0ndB1nary> GR1M0R4CL3: Yes, i will go ahead and open a Bug / Issue there and see if i get some support.
[14:33] <GR1M0R4CL3> Bey0ndB1nary: their latest release is 26 april 2019
[14:34] <Bey0ndB1nary> leftyfb: Thanks will check with them. Thanks.
[14:34] <GR1M0R4CL3> Bey0ndB1nary: go to https://github.com/thestinger/termite/issues and ask for help there
[14:35] <GR1M0R4CL3> Bey0ndB1nary: they have an issue opened for 18.04 with a response. check it.
[14:42] <Bey0ndB1nary> Thanks for the information. Logged a issue with their Git  ::    https://github.com/thestinger/termite/issues/740
[14:43] <Bey0ndB1nary> GR1M0R4CL3: i will check that response and see if it helps. Thanks.
[14:43] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : Finish downloaded 12.04 , will try it out another day on VM.I am not particularity need to go online on 12.04 , just some application need to be use.Open office is one of them , downloaded email POP archive are save into old email client evolution.To read it at 20.04  migration or conversion needed , config application that had been done at wine on 12.04 software, really takes a lot of time , imagine 4 years of apps & config done need to
[14:43] <nbusrone>  restart again.Maybe the best option is 12.04 upgrade to 14.04 and to 18.04 ? I wonder it works in that way in VM.Really thanks for help GR1M0R4CL3 :D learn something new.
[14:44] <Bey0ndB1nary> GR1M0R4CL3:  Could you point me that specific issue on 18.04 you've mentioned earlier. I am also checking.
[14:44] <leftyfb> nbusrone: the best option is to install 20.04 from scratch
[14:45] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: make backups. then try to upgrade and see if everything works as you go. backup to protect yourself.
[14:45] <jiffe> when new versions of ubuntu come out, who determines what version of packages are included in the repository?
[14:45] <GR1M0R4CL3> Bey0ndB1nary: you have been pointed to the github repository. only the program maintainer can help now.
[14:46] <Bey0ndB1nary> Thanks.
[14:49] <nbusrone> leftyfb : Currently will be using 18.04 , maybe will start from scratch when I tested most of the application installed at 18.04 works on 20.04.
[14:50] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : thanks for the advice , have a nice day ,bye :D stay safe
[14:50] <GR1M0R4CL3> nbusrone: i keep my systems up to date, will be :D
[14:54] <westor> hello, i have a question i have a vps that had 'libargon2-1' installed by default, but when i create a new user and trying to add a program that requires that lib it says that cannot found that lib, how can i fix this?
[14:57] <nbusrone>  GR1M0R4CL3 : I may not be that good to keep too update.In the previous years ,using 14.04 .Scanner driver was not found but 12.04 is there since I cmake it before at 12.04.Due to New dependence cmake old driver crash and no guide for it.Maybe sometime will drop by asking how to remake old driver into 20.04 again :D
[14:59] <nbusrone> GR1M0R4CL3 : thanks ,bye :D
[15:15] <leagris> I have annoying issue with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. Using gnome-fallback  When I take screenshot with CTR+ALT+PrntScr, most of the time it causes crash of the Input rfkill: input handler disabled then enabled,. I can'type anything and the audio device gets siwtched from internal analog stereo to HDMI output
[15:16] <adgtl> echo $FILENAME
[15:16] <adgtl> Regid-Timestamp-BucketName-Foldername.webm
[15:16] <adgtl> A=$(cut -d"." -f4 <<<"$FILENAME")
[15:16] <adgtl> I want cut -d but with '.'
[15:16] <adgtl> A=$(cut -d'.' -f4 <<<"$FILENAME")
[15:16] <adgtl> and that's not working
[15:17] <leagris> The only solution I have when the Input crash is go to the text console and reboot
[15:18] <Squarism> In ubuntu 18.04 it seems chrome can steal media keys even if you have the chrome:://flags setting to Disabled. I think this is fixed in 19+. Is there some way I can clean the association whenever it happens manually?
[15:18] <Squarism> basically : dbus-send --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus  /org/freedesktop/DBus org.freedesktop.DBus.ListNames | grep org.mpris
[15:18] <Squarism> ...will show that an instance of chrome hogs them
[15:22] <rfm> adgtl, what do you want to get?  that FILENAME string only has 2 fields if the delim is dot
[15:22] <adgtl> rfm yeah
[15:27] <arm1e> Help needed please, trying to mount wbfs partition
[15:27] <arm1e> on 20.04
[15:28] <Sven_vB> arm1e, what seems to be the problem? do you get an error message?
[15:29] <arm1e> Sven_vB, No, I can't find how to mount it. I installed wit and tried wfuse, but wfuse is not found. Gui's won't install as 20.04 removed qt4
[15:30] <Sven_vB> arm1e, does it work in command line at least
[15:30] <Sven_vB> ?
[15:30] <arm1e> Sven_vB, wit installs but the command wfuse is not found
[15:32] <arm1e> Sven_vB, wit is in the repo, and on the focal site it says that wfuse is included, but the command is not found
[15:33] <Sven_vB> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/disco/man1/wdf.1.html sounds like wfuse should have been installed in the wit package. maybe try reinstalling wit?
[15:34] <Sven_vB> oh sorry right, I confised the version names.
[15:34] <Sven_vB> however, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/wdf.1.html looks the same.
[15:34] <arm1e> Sven_vB, That's what I thought but still doesnt work.
[15:35] <Sven_vB> even after reinstalling the package?
[15:36] <arm1e> I have reinstalled several times
[15:37] <mikkeloscar> Hi, I'm reading this announcement https://ubuntu.com/blog/introducing-the-ubuntu-aws-rolling-kernel-2 and trying to build our Ubuntu based AMIs with the lts kernel. I have applied the suggestion from the post "sudo apt install linux-aws-lts-18.04" But this doesn't actually work because the grub config will still point to the 5.3 kernel and boot that. How can I be sure that the linux-aws-lts-18.04
[15:37] <mikkeloscar> kernel is used in grub?
[15:38] <Sven_vB> arm1e, what CPU platform do you use?
[15:38] <arm1e> intel
[15:38] <arm1e> i5
[15:39] <Sven_vB> mikkeloscar, one way would be to rename all other kernels. assuming you have a recovery mode to rename them back if it fails to boot.
[15:39] <Sven_vB> mikkeloscar, after you renamed them, sudo -E update-grub2
[15:39] <arm1e> if I boot into a 19.10 install I can access the files by installing a GUI tool, but the qt4-network dependency is now missing in focal
[15:39] <Sven_vB> arm1e, sorry I meant dpkg-wise, i.e. i386 or amd64
[15:40] <mikkeloscar> Sven_vB: What does rename mean in this case? Rename the initrams or?
[15:41] <Sven_vB> mikkeloscar, I meant to rename the kernel, but it probably won't hurt to rename (or move to a backup directory) its companion files as well.
[15:41] <Sven_vB> ,er
[15:41] <Sven_vB> kernel image to be correct
[15:41] <eliyahutbr1> got my backup issues sorted (to anyone who has been around for a few hours)
[15:42] <eliyahutbr1> I also took the time to update some rather insecure passwords
[15:42] <eliyahutbr1> (15 of em)
[15:42] <eliyahutbr1> and now, the google drive i have mounted in my GUI needs the new password. How do I do that?
[15:43] <Sven_vB> arm1e, not answered yet but maybe the comments help. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1234786/qt4-libqt4-in-ubuntu-20-04
[15:44] <ewomer> Is the grapics-driver ppa broken on Focal?
[15:44] <Sven_vB> arm1e, seems to me like you might have to compile qt4 yourself. I consider this a bug in the wit package. if it bothers you, consider reporting it to the maintainers.
[15:44] <arm1e> Sven_vB, how can I report it?
[15:44] <eliyahutbr1> sorted. just had to update my online accounts
[15:47] <Sven_vB> arm1e, I couldn't quickly find a bug report site. the website however is https://wit.wiimm.de/ .
[15:48] <leagris> Can you help with rfkill: input handler disabled and then enabled and loosing keyboard input?
[15:48] <Sven_vB> arm1e, maybe it's a bug in Ubuntu's packaging, then you can use the ubuntu-bug tool.
[15:49] <Sven_vB> !bug > arm1e
[15:53] <mr_lou> I have a problem playing video from a USB stick. After 12-24 hours the whole system freezes. There's no problem if I play from internal storage. And no problem either, if I install Windows 8 on the same hardware and play from the same USB. Then it played fine continuesly for a whole week. But not with Ubuntu. I added usbcore.autosuspend=-1 in grub. Anyone has any other ideas what to do?
[15:53] <mr_lou> Nothing in journalctl -b -1 -e
[15:53] <mr_lou> Last entry was from before the crash.
[15:53] <mr_lou> Nothing in /var/crash either
[15:59] <arm1e> Sven_vB, thanks. I have got it working! I installed the version from the Wiimms website instead!
[15:59] <arm1e> Thanks
[16:00] <Sven_vB> arm1e, :) good to hear
[16:13] <p4r4kovsky> guys is it impossible to permanently lock caps lock as home under gnome on ubuntu right
[16:16] <echoSMILE> Hi. I'm quite sure I follow this manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019 , so my question is, can I update the ubuntu 19.10 for the last version ?
[16:17] <echoSMILE> s/update/upgrade
[16:18] <echoSMILE> Other question related with that manual, how can I change the passphrase ?
[16:20] <wedr> My impression is that all ubuntu kernels, except for LTS versions, can only be reinstalled to be updated to those versions, right? I have never heard of anyone trying to update to each version through other means.
[16:23] <yozem55> hello everybody, i have some problem with 20.04 on my asus zenbook. if i use external display everything is good, but i cant do nothing with my built in screen. i have mx150 nvidia video card and i am using nvidia drivers. any suggestion?
[16:24] <rr123> sometimes I have two IPs tied to the same interface, 192.168.1.216 192.168.1.217, both are reachable, what is causing this
[16:32] <ewomer> Is there anywhere I can install the nvidia 440.82 drivers without having to manually do it?
[16:36] <AgeOfAsparagus> Hey folks, can anyone help me figure out how to configure an Automated Server Install to only ask for the hostname during the install process? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1243679/ask-only-for-hostname-in-an-automated-server-install/1243703?noredirect=1#comment2097320_1243703
[16:39] <ewomer> Never mind, found the solution, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/gghi2r/nvidia_44082_on_ubuntu_2004/fq22an2/?context=3
[17:46] <mr_lou> So apparently one can add rules in /etc/rules.d like this: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="045e", ATTR{idProduct}=="0040", TEST=="power/control", ATTR{power/control}="on"
[17:47] <mr_lou> Telling Ubuntu to stop autosuspending a specific USB device.
[17:47] <mr_lou> Can I omit idProduct and idVendor to make such a rule for all USB devices?
[17:53] <JoeLlama> LAUNCH!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjb9FdVdX5I&feature=youtu.be
[18:02] <l1ge> hi, since i upgraded to 20.04 the screenshot dont work anymore when i do Shit+printscreen to only screenshot an area
[18:03] <l1ge> i can select an area like before but no screenshot appear in the picture folder
[18:03] <l1ge> am i the only one?
[18:03] <l1ge> if i screenshot the whole screen with just "printscreen" key it works
[18:29] <geirha> l1ge: Works for me ...
[18:30] <geirha> print screen, alt+print screen and shift+print screen work as expected and they all appear in the pictures folder
[19:03] <dtseiler> I'm trying to build pgagroal from source on Ubuntu LTS. Installing 'cmake' wants to install 'gcc-7'. I've already installed 'gcc-8'. I'm not a wiz when it comes to compilers and such.
[19:03] <dtseiler> 18.04 LTS
[19:03] <dtseiler> pgagroal requires gcc-8, fwiw
[19:04] <lapion> Does anyone else have problems with windows jumping away from the mousecursor when moving past display boundaries in tripple/dual screen configurations ?
[19:11] <tomreyn> !details | lapion
[19:11] <leftyfb> dtseiler: you'll have to use https://github.com/agroal/pgagroal for support with getting pgagroal compiled. As for cmake, install it and let it install gcc-7 as needed
[19:12] <ioria> dtseiler, or use focal...
[19:12] <tomreyn> lapion: Ubuntu version and hardware information specifically
[19:17] <TRS^> Hey guys!
[19:17] <luna_> hi
[19:17] <ikonia> isn'tpgaroal in the ubuntu repo already
[19:19] <TRS^> How can I install geoip-database-extra on ver20?
[19:19] <ikonia> is there a package for it ?
[19:19] <TRS^> for ver18
[19:19] <TRS^> says not for 20
[19:21] <ikonia> where are you getting it ?
[19:21] <ikonia> is it from an external repo ?
[19:26] <lapion> Ubuntu 20.04; intel HD 4th gen graphics laptop with 3 displays, left 1080p ( hdmi ), center 1440p ( dp ), right 1080p ( dfp )
[19:27] <lapion> tomreyn...
[19:30] <tomreyn> lapion: hmm, maybe 3 monitors is a buit much for this gpu. or the driver is just buggy. or both. you could report a !bug.
[19:30] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | TRS^
[19:30] <lapion> tomreyn, the problem is rather recent.. since 20.04
[19:32] <tomreyn> lapion: check that your system is fully updates, too.
[19:32] <lapion> the gpu is rather flexibel what with I have run allmost 8k at 30fps across all 3 displays with a stretched youtube window.
[19:32] <ikonia> running resolution and powering monitors are two different things
[19:32] <ikonia> lapion: test it with a single monitor
[19:32] <ikonia> then scale out
[19:33] <ikonia> as in single laptop screen then scale out, not laptop + monitor
[19:33] <ikonia> (I'm assuming perhaps wrongly it's a laptop)
[19:33] <lapion> ikonia, that was just an experiment in the past to test the full capabilities of the intel HD igd
[19:34] <lapion> the problem is with dragging windows from one display to the other..
[19:35] <ikonia> lapion: ok, so try it with one additional display at a time
[19:35] <ikonia> eg: the hdmi one
[19:35] <ikonia> then just the dp one
[19:35] <S3xyL1nux> please consider changing nautilus's default script editor colors while launching as root
[19:35] <lapion> the windows shifts almost halfway away from the display boundary but remains attached to the cursor
[19:35] <ikonia> once individual displays are ruled out work through combinations
[19:35] <lapion> ikonia the multi-display is not the problem..
[19:35] <ikonia> S3xyL1nux: please consider not launching it as root
[19:36] <ikonia> lapion: you just said it is, when dragging windows between monitors
[19:36] <S3xyL1nux> we could'nt change the default color while root as you know already
[19:36] <lapion> it's the moving of windows across display boundaries
[19:36] <ikonia> S3xyL1nux: you can change the colour
[19:36] <ikonia> lapion: so that's multi monitor
[19:36] <ikonia> screen boundaries = multiple monitors
[19:36] <ikonia> or do you mean something else ?
[19:36] <S3xyL1nux> not while on root
[19:36] <ikonia> S3xyL1nux: ??? you're not making sense
[19:36] <S3xyL1nux> its just not responding
[19:37] <ikonia> what's not responding ?
[19:37] <S3xyL1nux> changing the font colors
[19:37] <lapion> the windows will shift while the cursor continues and the display moves slightly ajar of the cursor when corssing the boundary but continues following the cursor..
[19:37] <ikonia> S3xyL1nux: pretty sure you can change them
[19:37] <ikonia> lapion: when swapping monitors or just in general
[19:37] <lapion> ikonia yes
[19:37] <S3xyL1nux> couldn't see shit while in gnome dark mode
[19:37] <ikonia> S3xyL1nux: tone down the language please
[19:37] <S3xyL1nux> no i can't
[19:38] <ikonia> lapion: so work through the combinations - test each monitor first to see if it's a port/display specific issue, and then scale out
[19:38] <lapion> ikonia when passing a windows past the display boundary to the next
[19:38] <kenwoodfox> Hey ubuntu, i have two nfs shares mapped to an ubuntu machine, one works and the other is not, and i cant figure out why https://gist.github.com/KenwoodFox/7e72a6f635e1c854eb3659da36d40a0f
[19:38] <kenwoodfox> where should i start?
[19:38] <ikonia> lapion: work through the variations to find out when / where the problem starts and where it's stable
[19:38] <kenwoodfox> does not*
[19:39] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: who runs the remote host ?
[19:39] <kenwoodfox> ikonia: A FreeNAS machine,
[19:39] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: who runs it though ?
[19:39] <kenwoodfox> ikonia: Oh, I do,
[19:39] <lapion> ikonia it's not reproducible everytime.. so I will have to wait till the next time it happens and analyse under what circumstances it happens
[19:39] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: is the working NFS mount on the same remote host ?
[19:39] <ikonia> lapion: it's reproducable every time with one additional monitor ?
[19:40] <kenwoodfox> ikonia: Yes, and as far as i can tell they are the same, same protocol, same auth
[19:40] <kenwoodfox> ikonia: just pointing to different datasets
[19:40] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: that's odd, it's not a synology is it by any chance ?
[19:40] <kenwoodfox> ikonia: No its FreeNAS,
[19:40] <ikonia> damn, there is a known bug with synology
[19:41] <kenwoodfox> Darn...
[19:41] <kenwoodfox> Its so weird, why does one work and not the other
[19:41] <ikonia> are you automounting or putting it in the fstab ?
[19:41] <kenwoodfox> fstab,
[19:41] <lapion> ikonia, I caught it, it has to do with the mouse cursor hitting the top of the current screen while moving on to the next
[19:41] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: can you share the fstab
[19:41] <kenwoodfox> Sure thing ikonia
[19:42] <lapion> so I guess it has to do with the auto-full-screen upon pushing a windows towards the top of the current viewport
[19:43] <ikonia> lapion: I honestly have no idea
[19:43] <ikonia> does it do it if you are only using a single additional monitor ?
[19:43] <kenwoodfox> https://gist.github.com/KenwoodFox/ba6479034f146759689f0d9e9d963c25
[19:44] <S3xyL1nux> i need to install pulseaudio volume control ......... apt install ... ?
[19:44] <S3xyL1nux> name ?
[19:44] <kenwoodfox> It was working befoe :/
[19:44] <kenwoodfox> Sorry it took a moment to upload,
[19:45] <lapion> ikonia it's a effect of the window auto-resizing int he current viewport due to the mouse cursor pushing against the top of the screen and at the same time the mouse moving to the next viewport
[19:45] <S3xyL1nux> nm pavucontrol
[19:46] <ikonia> lapion: yeah you said
[19:46] <lapion> try it out..
[19:47] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: looks basic enough
[19:47] <kenwoodfox> ikonia: Anything stand out?
[19:47] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: if you unmount th working mount and mount it again, does it work straight away ?
[19:47] <ikonia> as maintaining a mount is different than starting a mount
[19:47] <kenwoodfox> Let me try, umount right?
[19:47] <S3xyL1nux> bug with the new gnome terminal ,,, while pressing ctrl+c , it does't shut down the tap as fast as before ,,, there is a bit delay and i dislike this
[19:48] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: correct
[19:48] <ikonia> S3xyL1nux: can you stop talking into the air please
[19:48] <ikonia> S3xyL1nux: if you have bugs - log them, if you want help, ask for help
[19:48] <S3xyL1nux> ikonia ?
[19:48] <kenwoodfox> Here you go ikoniahttps://gist.github.com/KenwoodFox/10f092a7db8cecea1591d640fa161f9e
[19:49] <S3xyL1nux> ikonia i am not giving you my lolliloop
[19:49] <el> S3xyL1nux: you seem to be rattling off grievences that you could be filing bugs for. this is a support channel not a way to open grievence with the devs as your comments have seemed to be
[19:49] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: clean and tify
[19:49] <ikonia> tidy
[19:49] <ikonia> S3xyL1nux: please stop - either ask for help and we can try to help you, or log a bug
[19:50] <kenwoodfox> ikonia: What does that mean?
[19:50] <S3xyL1nux> ikonia calm down
[19:50] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: it means I'm surprised one mount worked again and the other one didn't,
[19:50] <kenwoodfox> ikonia: Yeah, me too,
[19:50] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: do you have any options on the share from the nas
[19:50] <ikonia> eg: ip restrictions
[19:50] <kenwoodfox> I do but its configured to allow all ips
[19:51] <kenwoodfox> I do all my blocking in the router,
[19:51] <ikonia> as that looks like it's not even trying a protocol hand shak
[19:51] <Scriptonaut> I'm running a node script with nohup, like: nohup node server.js &. However every time I kill it, there's immediately another process that took its place
[19:51] <ikonia> shake even
[19:51] <Scriptonaut> how do I kill a node process started with nohup?
[19:51] <Scriptonaut> I've tried kill with -QUIT and -9, doesn't seem to matter
[19:51] <ikonia> Scriptonaut: depends what that process is doing
[19:51] <ikonia> Scriptonaut: does it fork a child ?
[19:51] <Scriptonaut> I don't think so
[19:51] <ikonia> check
[19:52] <Scriptonaut> oh wait, yes it does
[19:52] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: manually mount it, see if it respond different
[19:52] <kenwoodfox> I downgraded the permisisons, and, it.
[19:52] <kenwoodfox> idk what its doing
[19:52] <kenwoodfox> its popping in and out of being mounted and not being mounted
[19:52] <ikonia> really ?
[19:52] <ikonia> how are you seeing this ?
[19:53] <kenwoodfox> If i use the file mannager on the machine, and do ctrl + r on the mounted folder
[19:53] <kenwoodfox> they appear and disapear every so often
[19:53] <kenwoodfox> but, now it says it is mounted
[19:53] <kenwoodfox> `/mnt/Zinc/mark           : already mounted`
[19:53] <ikonia> Hmmm
[19:54] <kenwoodfox> Very interesting
[19:54] <kenwoodfox> I should save some logs
[19:54] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: totally use
[19:54] <ikonia> I'd be curious
[19:54] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: next time it drops - manually mount it, see what it says
[19:55] <ikonia> I'm wondering if something is conflicting with it like an automounter (which is why I asked at the start) or if the mount command is timing out due to a stale legacy mount
[19:55] <ikonia> but that's pretty reaching as your other mount is fine
[19:55] <kenwoodfox> Sure ill write that down, when/if it does it again ill let you know
[19:55] <ikonia> please do
[19:55] <kenwoodfox> its weird, :/ I only have fstab, no exports or anything
[19:55] <ikonia> you have my interest
[19:55] <kenwoodfox> Of course, thanks for your help ikonia :)
[19:55] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: keep in mind there are other mounters too, systemd for example, autofs, automountd etc etc
[19:56] <ikonia> so something could be fighting you that you don't expect
[19:56] <kenwoodfox> ikonia: Gotcha, ill keep an eye out for those then,
[19:56] <ikonia> kenwoodfox: if you have a conflict (doubtful) manually mounting it will give a better output
[20:11] <geodb27> People : hi ! Is tehere any reason why I can't upgrade my kubuntu -18.04-LTS laptop to 20.04-LTS ?
[20:11] <geodb27> I've followed what's related here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FocalUpgrades/Kubuntu
[20:12] <Scriptonaut> isn't nohup supposed to detach the process from the terminal that launched its process?
[20:12] <Scriptonaut> how do I run something and just have it be completely detached
[20:12] <geodb27> Yet, at step "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop" The only output I get is "Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[20:12] <geodb27> There is no development version of an LTS available.
[20:12] <geodb27> To upgrade to the latest non-LTS develoment release
[20:12] <geodb27> set Prompt=normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades."
[20:13] <geodb27> Scriptonaut: have you checked screen ?
[20:13] <Scriptonaut> screen would do the opposite of what I want wouldn't it?
[20:13] <oerheks> geodb27, wait for the 20.04.1 releae
[20:13] <oerheks> ... i would
[20:14] <oerheks> !ltsupgrade
[20:14] <Scriptonaut> I'm launching a process from the terminal, I don't want it tied to the parent process
[20:14] <geodb27> Not sure. With screen, a process can continue to run even if you "detach" from screen's terminal and logout...
[20:14] <Scriptonaut> my issue is, I am trying to launch a process, and every time I kill it, the parent process revives it
[20:14] <Scriptonaut> it's literally impossible to kill
[20:14] <Scriptonaut> unless I bring it to the foreground and then send it a SIGKILL
[20:14] <geodb27> Oh, all right, thanks for your help oerheks !
[20:15] <Scriptonaut> I basically want to daemonize this thing
[20:17] <sarnold> Scriptonaut: best answer is to write a systemd service file for your thing so you can manage it with systemctl start / stop, enable / disable, etc etc
[20:18] <Scriptonaut> I'm already using monit to manage it
[20:20] <sarnold> apparently not ;)
[21:39] <buru> sorry to bother you again, but does anyone else experience a 30second delay on grub menu?
[21:39] <buru> Seems to be related to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1814403
[21:41] <buru> where GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT takes precedence over default always.
[21:41] <thavlik> Hey folks! I just installed a 128gb memory kit. What should I do to ensure it is utilized as much as possible? Specifically, I'm looking for that sort of in-memory disk caching where writes to the actual disk occur in the background
[21:41] <Solifugus> Anyone know how to export X display, so can use X410 X Server on windows to remote use Unbuntu apps
[21:42] <Solifugus> Every stinking google search brings up WSL and X410
[21:43] <sarnold> thavlik: you could use libeatmydata on programs where you don't need the flushes to wait for confirmation from the disk..
[21:44] <akik> Solifugus: login from windows using putty using x11 tunneling to ubuntu server. then you can open programs on ubuntu and they shop up in x410
[21:44] <akik> Solifugus: use localhost:0 in putty as the display name/number
[21:45] <sarnold> Solifugus: it's been ~25 years since I used a remote X terminal, but probably you "just" need the XAUTHORITY environment variable or ~/.Xauthority file configured with the token from the server, and set DISPLAY= to the hostname and port
[21:48] <thavlik> sarnold thanks! I'll look into that
[21:48] <thavlik> Do you know of anything system-wide?
[21:50] <imi> can I select in an sqlite file like in mysql?
[21:52] <Sven_vB> imi, you need other software, but you can run the same queries.
[21:52] <imi> ok what software do I need?
[21:52] <Sven_vB> well, mostly. all usual queries should work.
[21:53] <Sven_vB> imi, I'd try http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man1/sqlitebrowser.1.html
[21:56] <Sven_vB> thavlik, what do you mean with system-wide? are you running multiple X servers?
[21:58] <Sven_vB> thavlik, sorry, I mixed up the messages
[21:59] <Cache_Money> I have an old server (Ubuntu 14.04.2) with a Rails app running on it. I need to upgrade my SSL certificate generator (LetsEncrypt via Certbot) but it appears that I might not be able to upgrade to the newest version of Certbot because of how old my Ubuntu instance is. I've never upgraded Ubuntu before, so I'm wondering if that will impact my Rails app at all?
[22:00] <thavlik> No worries :)
[22:00] <Sven_vB> solarliner, you could also use xvnc to launch an X server that can be used via VNC.
[22:01] <Sven_vB> gnarf
[22:01] <Sven_vB> oh, Solifugus left
[22:03] <Cache_Money> If I would like to upgrade my Ubuntu version and I'm running 14.04 -- how would you recommend I do that?
[22:03] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, upgrade to the next LTS until you reach the current one. so 16.04, 18.04, 20.04
[22:04] <Cache_Money> Sven_v8: Okay. This is my first time doing this. I won't lose any files or how my web server / Rails app / LetsEncrypt projects are configured, correct?
[22:04] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, however, fixing everything that breaks, might be more effort than making ansible recipes for all important stuff and starting fresh.
[22:04] <solarliner> I have been freed from my bottle!
[22:05] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, if you use Apache, it will be horror. (my personal opinion.)
[22:05] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: I'm using Nginx
[22:05] <Sven_vB> solarliner, :) yeah sorry, HexChat isn't as smart as I'd hope it would be.
[22:06] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, your files should mostly be safe, but config has probably evolved a lot in 6 years,
[22:06] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: since I'm planning on taking Thursday thru Sunday off.. I should probably wait to tackle that!
[22:07] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, setting stuff up with modern technologies might be more enjoyable, and maybe even quicker, than fixing all the bugs that would arise from the upgrade.
[22:08] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, however, upgrading to Xenial could work rather well, and then at least you get supported kernels.
[22:08] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: true. Do you happen to have any experience with Lets Encrypt? I have an old version of Certbot -- which I use to generate a new SSL cert for my Rails app -- that needs to get upgraded. I came across this discussion but I'm afraid I won't be able to upgrade to the newest version since I'm on 14.04
[22:08] <h110hawk> Hi! I have a semi-repeatable crash on my Lenovo X1 running 20.04 when the screen goes to sleep. It never wakes up and kern.log becomes a wasteland of WARN's. I've tried various things to try and induce a panic (namely: sysctl kernel.panic_on_warn=1) but it doesn't seem to want to do that. Not sure where to go to report it, or if anyone even wants a report. :) This log is long, and only ends because I long-press the power button to force the laptop
[22:09] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, I have a xenial webserver, and certbot works fine there. no idea about Rails if it is involved.
[22:09] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: you think upgrading to just 16.04 (Xenial) would be relatively easy (in terms of config problems)?
[22:10] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, in the worst case you'd have to stop nginx for a while and run certbot in standalone webserver mode.
[22:11] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: How long do you think it'll take for my server to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[22:11] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, depends on what programs you used. for my desktop computers it was fine (had to re-pair all bluetooth though) and my apache/mysql/php/couriermail/qmail servers were fine as well.
[22:11] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: I have an EC2 instance on AWS
[22:12] <h110hawk> Cache_Money: destroy it and remake it
[22:12] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, ah sorry, no idea about EC2.
[22:12] <h110hawk> 15 minutes tops
[22:13] <Cache_Money> h110hawk: What do you mean destroy / remake it? I don't want to lose anything on it
[22:13] <h110hawk> Cache_Money: It's on EC2 - the mode to upgrade is to destroy the instance and remake it, if you do not want to lose things you need to offload them to other storage and configuration management
[22:13] <Cache_Money> I've never upgraded a server (obviously!), so this is new territory for me
[22:13] <h110hawk> apt-get dist-upgrade or whatever on EC2 is not going to work how you want it to
[22:14] <Cache_Money> Gotcha
[22:14] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, usually it's better to start a new server, migrate your apps/websites/whatever, then kill the old server.
[22:14] <h110hawk> so make a new upgraded server, transfer your stuff, destroy the old one
[22:14] <h110hawk> use this as a moment to get it into config management
[22:14] <h110hawk> I would jump to latest LTS while you're at it
[22:15] <Cache_Money> And that's why I would want to use something like Ansible to help with the config management?
[22:15] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, for config management, I recommend ansible. I tried to upgrade my Xenial puppet recipes and had to give up.
[22:15] <Cache_Money> That all sounds great except I need to upgrade Certbot by June 1st so that I can keep my website running until I get a new server running/configured (facepalm!)
[22:16] <h110hawk> So spin up a t1.micro, run certbot, copy the cert, destroy it, kick the can down the road
[22:16] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, you could run any certbot anywhere, and either forward the web port, or use the DNS verification method (I recommend), or use manual mode with any webserver that you can upload textfiles to.
[22:17] <h110hawk> also you are on borrowed time if your webserver is not stored elsewhere, is on a VERY old version of ubuntu, and you do not have a path to upgrade
[22:19] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, certbot isn't black magic. at the core it just arranges a certain text file to be hosted on a particular URL.
[22:21] <Cache_Money> h110hawk: what do you mean stored elsewhere? I take images nightly, so I'll have that in case it crashes
[22:22] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: So, you're saying I can run some type of command manually if I'm not able to upgrade to the newest version of Certbot (using crontab to generate new SSL certs)?
[22:23] <waddles> I am trying to exec a script with a curl command `curl -m 2 http://127.0.0.1:6666` from udev rule: `ACTION=="add", ATTRS{idVendor}=="090c", ATTRS{idProduct}=="1000", RUN+="/home/pi/curl_test.sh"` and just listen with `nc -nlvp 6666` - I get a connection with nc when udev is executed while `sudo /lib/systemd/systemdudevd --debug &` is running, but
[22:23] <waddles> when it is not running I do not get any connection. I think it is a permissions issue, does anyone have any advice?
[22:24] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, probably, you can. try installing certbot on the machine you use for IRC, run manual mode, it should generate a text file you need to upload to some path (I think your.ser.ver/.well-known/acme/xxxxxxxxx), you should be able to renew your cert even before upgrading. it's a fully separate issue.
[22:24] <Sven_vB> or at least it _should_ be two separate issues.
[22:26] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: right now I have my crontab setup like so: 30 3 */2 * * sudo certbot renew
[22:26] <Sven_vB> waddles, redirect stdout and stderr from your curl command to a logfile
[22:28] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, for how to use certbot in manual mode and whether you have to copy secrets from your old server, please ask the Let's encrypt support or read their docs.
[22:28] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: will do!
[22:28] <waddles> Sven_vB output `  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:--  0:00:01 --:--:--     0`
[22:28] <waddles> + `curl: (28) Connection timed out after 2001 milliseconds` as expected
[22:29] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: So, just for the record I should create a new EC2 instance running Ubuntu 20.04 and configure it with my Nginx web server, Rails app, and certbot instead of trying to upgrade my current EC2 instance?
[22:29] <Sven_vB> waddles, I've no idea about udev, but if you describe what you're trying to actually do, I might have an idea for other strategies.
[22:30] <Sven_vB> Cache_Money, yeah I'd recommend that.
[22:30] <waddles> basically I would like to be able to trigger a script to run when I plug in a usb stick. This script needs to be able to make http requests
[22:30] <Cache_Money> Sven_vB: And there's no way to take an Ubuntu 14.04 image (from my current EC2 instance) and use it to populate a new instance running 20.04?
[22:31] <Sven_vB> waddles, I had the same issue and made a program for that. I'll write you the link in private.
[22:31] <waddles> Sven_vB thank you!!
[22:32] <Sven_vB> waddles, oh maybe it's even easier. is it a thumb drive disk, and does it have a partition whose name or GUID you could trigger on?
[22:32] <Sven_vB> *UUID
[22:32] <waddles> Sven_vB my current issue isn't the triggering - that part is working. The issue is sending the HTTP requests
[22:33] <TJ-> waddles: the quickest way would be a UDEV rule, but running times of executables launched that way is limited and they are liable to be killed. Proper way os a systemd unit that is triggered by device discovery
[22:33] <Sven_vB> waddles, yeah, I'd hope that if you use systemd for triggering, you can tell it what privileges to give your curl
[22:34] <Solifugus> Anyone know how to make X410 work??  I purchased it from the Windows store, installed it, installed WSL 2 with Ubuntu, installed xfce4... and when I start x410, it just says its running... nothing to see though.  When I try to start xfce4, it shows text like its started but no GUI..   Even xclock..
[22:34] <Solifugus> It just acts like its showing but there is nothing showing.
[22:34] <waddles> Sven_vB TJ- okay, so I could write a systemd unit that specifies permissions needed to make the requests?\
[22:35] <Sven_vB> waddles, running the curl command from systemd might even work by default.
[22:36] <waddles> Sven_vB would it be possible for you to send a sample command? Ideally I would like to be able to trigger a shell script to then run a python script which will make the requests when a USB stick is plugged in.
[22:36] <Sven_vB> waddles, it would be possible as commercial support, but people in #systemd might be able to refer you to examples for free. :)
[22:37] <Solifugus> I see.. its' because i was root
[22:37] <waddles> Sounds good, thank you for your help Sven_vB
[22:40] <egm1991> Can someone please help me find Ubuntu 18.04 drivers for this, preferably ones I don't have to compile? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MYvx8I7L/USB%20Wifi%20adapter.png
[22:40] <sarnold> what does lsusb say it is?
[22:41] <egm1991> Bus 010 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
[22:42] <TJ-> egm1991: try again :)
[22:42] <egm1991> Not really sure which one it is.
[22:42] <Sven_vB> egm1991, unplug it, run lsusb; plug it in, repeat, compare.
[22:43] <egm1991> I hope I get this right eventually.  https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/uxB0aoOk/lsusb%20output%20for%20%40custom
[22:43] <TJ-> egm1991: "sudo dmesg -C" then "dmesg -w" and plug the device in
[22:44] <egm1991> hanging on dmesg -w
[22:44] <TJ-> egm1991: yes, it is 'w'aiting for kernel messages
[22:44] <TJ-> egm1991: press Ctrl+C to exit
[22:44] <egm1991> Should I CONTROL+C?
[22:44] <Sven_vB> egm1991, still no output when you plug in the USB device?
[22:45] <Sven_vB> it should report at least *something*
[22:45] <egm1991> trying again https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OJgyfWkX/2nd_try
[22:45] <egm1991> Is it one of the "linux foundation" ones?
[22:47] <jeremy31> egm1991: Looking for wifi?  You might need the rtl88x2bu from github
[22:47] <Sven_vB> egm1991, all devices that are discovered when you plug it in. the idea is to watch what happens when the device registers itself with your computer.
[22:47] <TJ-> why does irccloud need 19 scripts just to show some text?
[22:47] <egm1991> I tried this from GitHub, but I couldn't get it to work. https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu
[22:47] <Sven_vB> TJ-, I wondered the same. probably the IRC cloud devs are clouded.
[22:48] <jeremy31> egm1991: Is Secure Boot disabled?
[22:48] <akik> TJ-: surveillance capitalism
[22:48] <egm1991> ~sven@gateway/tor-sasl/svenvb/x-98888234 The light doesn't even come on when I plug it in.
[22:48] <TJ-> Sven_vB: I have them blocked so nice blank page for me :)
[22:48] <egm1991> Yes. Secure boot is off.
[22:48] <jeremy31> egm1991: Might need to find a newer version for 20.04
[22:48] <egm1991> I can't rmember how to @ ppl.
[22:48] <egm1991> Im on 18.04.
[22:48] <TJ-> egm1991: the main issue is to check what the kernel messsages are, using dmesg
[22:49] <TJ-> egm1991: if you're trying and failing to get a driver to work, usually there'll be some clues reported by the kernel that will help figure it out
[22:49] <Sven_vB> egm1991, if your root hub re-appears, it might be an electrical problem with the device. no idea what happens though, as I can't see your messages. maybe post them on the ubuntu pastebin?
[22:49] <egm1991> dmesg output https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Yg9pQ3Xl/dmesg
[22:51] <TJ-> egm1991: show us "pastebinit < <( dmesg )"
[22:51] <Sven_vB> egm1991, not sure if you're even seeing that you pasted a link to IRCcloud. some folkes here (e.g. TJ- and me) can't read that page.
[22:51] <Sven_vB> *folks
[22:52] <jeremy31> egm1991: what about result for>  rfkill list | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:53] <egm1991> TJ- i think i did
[22:53] <akik> egm1991: 88x2bu module has support for that vid/pid "alias:          usb:v0BDApB812d*dc*dsc*dp*icFFiscFFipFFin*"
[22:54] <jeremy31> egm1991: That github source compiles without error on 20.04, check terminal for> rfkill list
[22:57] <egm1991> I tried that yesterday. I couldn't get the raspbian stuff to install on Ubuntu 18.04.
[22:58] <sarnold> probably best to not mix raspbian and ubuntu packages on one system
[22:58] <TJ-> especially if they're different architectures!
[22:59] <drfeelgoojun> hi
[22:59] <drfeelgoojun> Hi. Kernel 4.9 builds failed for AMD64 https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.9.225/
[22:59] <drfeelgoojun> how can I report this please?
[23:00] <sarnold> drfeelgoojun: probably #ubuntu-kernel is the place for that
[23:00] <egm1991> Indeed. Not sure what to do then.
[23:00] <drfeelgoojun> thanks mr Sarnold
[23:02] <drfeelgoojun> also, can I decrease the size of the left icons on Ubuntu 18.04?  GNOME Tweak lacks it I'm afraid
[23:03] <egm1991> Found it! I hope this works. http://www.cudytech.com/wu1200_software_download
[23:08] <h110hawk> ugh my laptop went to sleep while plugged in and crashed, again
[23:09] <h110hawk> Not sure why I set screen timeout to never
[23:13] <Sven_vB> h110hawk, maybe power management in /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[23:14] <Sven_vB> h110hawk, you can use systemd-inhibitor to make systemd try and keep your computer awake. it
[23:14] <Sven_vB> 's used by CD burning software and similar.
[23:16] <h110hawk> thanks
[23:22] <egm1991> I couldn't get the install.sh to run. I will try again tomorrow.
[23:34] <Sven_vB> using Xenial, is there a way to virtually split my screen? I'd like to operate the right side normally with lightdm/xfce/xrandr, but have the left side be a virtual console that always runs my script. or run an X with xterm and my script. the idea is that the script shall not be hidden or interrupted by lightdm login/logout.
[23:39] <sarnold> Sven_vB: you could do something a bit gross with xserver-xephyr and nest several X11 servers together..
[23:39] <sarnold> Sven_vB: but it sounds like something that'd be easy enough to do with a tiled window manager like i3wm or notion and just not obscure your window
[23:44] <dTal> Sven_vB: If it's the same screen you're going to want to have a single X server running that covers both halves, and for performance you don't want to nest anything
[23:45] <dTal> ergo, you need to do the split at the window manager level
[23:45] <Sven_vB> is a window manager limited to a login session?
[23:46] <dTal> Not intrinsically, but the login session usually starts the window manager
[23:47] <dTal> actually, I'm reading now that acceration works with Xephyr
[23:47] <dTal> unless you use proprietary nvidia drivers.
[23:47] <sarnold> getting it running is probably not great fun though
[23:47] <Sven_vB> looks like there's no elegant way to do it then. :( except maybe with that movie OS software whose name I forgot.
[23:52] <dTal> Hm, there must be a way
[23:52] <dTal> I wonder if you can configure two "screens" in xorg.conf, one for each half of the monitor
[23:52] <sarnold> the "easy" way is to buy a 5k monitor that requires being driven by two hdmi cables, one for each half, they look like two screens.. :)
[23:52] <Sven_vB> :D
[23:54] <dTal> you can specify a "virtual" screen resolution that's larger than the physical screen resolution
[23:54] <Sven_vB> does anyone remember the name of that totally hackable window (or display?) manager that can use any window as a video source and exposes window properties as a virtual filesystem?
[23:54] <dTal> I wonder if you can make one that's smaller
[23:55] <Sven_vB> dTal, I'm willing to try. :)
[23:55] <dTal> well I'm not futzing with *my* xorg.conf so let me know how it goes :p
[23:55] <dTal> I guess try and piece something together from this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[23:56] <Sven_vB> yeah I'm trying to figure out what to put where, so if you have ideas already, feel free to guide me :)
[23:56] <Sven_vB> will do
[23:56] <sarnold> dTal: hah I forgot about that, back in the bad old days, people would sometimes run a 1600x1200 X screen but their 1280x1024 screen forced them to pan around a small portion of it. WHY. WHY.
[23:58] <Sven_vB> dTal, wouldn't I need "Monitor" sections instead of  "Screen" sections?
[23:59] <Sven_vB> and how would I set the position of the small Monitor within the hardware screen?