[18:28] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: is our iso supposed to be borked? (downloaded at 7am)
[18:29] <OvenWerks> The boot screen doesn't seem to have any menu... or at least any text on the menu.
[18:29] <OvenWerks> when it did boot it seems to have decided to use safe graphics mode.
[18:29] <OvenWerks> does not believe I have two displays.
[18:30] <OvenWerks> Anyway trying an install.
[18:30] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: That's a known issue in gfxboot at the moment, xnox and vorlon have been working on it.
[18:30] <OvenWerks> k
[18:31] <Eickmeyer> UEFI boot looks as expected.
[18:31] <OvenWerks> I expect it would want to install as uefi as well then?
[18:31] <Eickmeyer> You can give it a shot. It installs however it was booted.
[18:32]  * OvenWerks is not sure what that would do to his partition table
[18:32] <Eickmeyer> It's not possible if you're using MBR still.
[18:32] <OvenWerks> hu time to restart.. back in a minute or ten
[18:49] <OvenWerks> startup features non-pymouth streaming of logs :) that may be because of how I did grub, this is not the first entry.
[18:50] <OvenWerks> for some reason plasma figured out how to put the panel on thge main screen, but wants to open all applications on second screen
[18:51] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, I've got no clue on that one.
[18:51] <OvenWerks> but at least it believes I have two screens
[18:51] <Eickmeyer> Plasma is pretty good at remembering where you put windows too.
[18:51] <OvenWerks> Konsole has vanished from favourites
[18:51] <Eickmeyer> That might have been my doing.
[18:51] <Eickmeyer> ctrl-alt-T is nice though.
[18:52] <Eickmeyer> (can fix)
[18:52] <OvenWerks> :)
[18:52]  * OvenWerks is not good at remembering keyboard short cuts
[18:54] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: the one complaint I have about the installer... it seems to think all Canadians have french canaian keyboards by default. The old US keyboard is probably correct for most canadians. (it chooses keyboard by IP)
[18:56] <OvenWerks> None of the computer stores (that I am aware of) even sell french canadian keyboards... the only one I have ever seen is an old one they were throwing out at Canada Post
[18:57] <OvenWerks> I think they have to be secially ordered... or maybe they are common in Quebec (pronouced Kabek by those who live there)
[19:01] <Eickmeyer> tsimonq2: ^
[19:02] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: I'm not sure that's something we can fix.
[19:02] <OvenWerks> It is an anoyance to 80% (at least) of all Canadians
[19:03] <Eickmeyer> Probably file an issue: https://github.com/calamares/calamares
[19:03] <OvenWerks> The old installer has it right
[19:03] <Eickmeyer> I cant fix the branding in the old installer.
[19:03] <OvenWerks> I know.
[19:03] <OvenWerks> I am not suggesting going back
[19:04] <Eickmeyer> The Calamares developers are pretty open to bug reports and seem to be responsive.
[19:04] <Eickmeyer> The Ubuntu Foundations team is less than responsive when it comes to anything that doesn't affect Desktop, Server, Cloud, or IoT.
[19:05] <OvenWerks> There are 128 open issues
[19:06] <Eickmeyer> Most of those are feature requests.
[19:07] <Eickmeyer> And all of them have been responded to.
[19:30] <OvenWerks> zynsubaddfx... the alsa version is no longer in the menu but the OSS version is?
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that seems odd. On my to-do list.
[19:42]  * Eickmeyer has the feeling the .desktop files changed names again.
[19:43] <OvenWerks> I am not sure if we should only show the jack version or both jack and alsa
[19:43] <OvenWerks> The alsa version will block the device unless it connects to the pulse default device.
[19:50] <Eickmeyer> I've been working on getting mudita24 into Fedora this morning. Package was reviewed last week but no further info. I finally got someone to work on it this week.
[19:55] <OvenWerks> Oh and I get the real time warning... I think you mentioned that
[20:00] <Eickmeyer> Yep, but I fixed that. I didn't get that issue in my latest test install.
[20:01] <Eickmeyer> I know the real time warning exists for the live session.
[20:18] <OvenWerks> no this was after install, so maybe fixed on todays? (I downloaded at 7am so maybe before todays iso was spun
[20:29] <Eickmeyer> It was fixed the other day. I'll do another test run and see what's up.
[20:45] <OvenWerks> it could have something to do with the bad ISO boot to live too
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, could be.
[20:49] <Eickmeyer> I'll investigate later. I'm knee-deep in Fedora stuff today.
[20:49] <OvenWerks> no rush, big job switching installer, de, etc.
[20:50] <Eickmeyer> It only took me a month. :P
[20:50] <OvenWerks> Thats why we started now
[23:11] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Yep, just tested a fresh install, did not encounter the real time warning you did.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[23:11] <Eickmeyer> ERR:CouldNotReproduce
[23:13] <Eickmeyer> I'll be digging deeper though. It's very possible that, since the "hack" to get it working is based on the bios install method, it might be limited to legacy boot.
[23:30] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Figured it out: Calamares was applying the "hack" to UEFI, but not to BIOS. I had to fix it so it will do both.