[02:00] <callmepk> good morning
[02:00] <sarnold> hey callmepk
[02:01] <callmepk> hi sarnold 
[06:07] <didrocks> good morning
[06:12] <duflu> Hi didrocks 
[06:12] <duflu> Also hi callmepk 
[06:14] <jibel> hi all
[06:14] <didrocks> hey duflu, salut jibel 
[06:14] <callmepk> Hi didrocks duflu jibel 
[06:14] <duflu> Hi jibel 
[06:14] <didrocks> hey callmepk 
[06:54] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[06:55] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[07:14] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson 
[07:18] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:18] <oSoMoN> happy Friday!
[07:23] <didrocks> joyeux vendredi oSoMoN !
[07:28] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[07:36] <marcustomlinson> hey duflu didrocks oSoMoN
[07:36] <oSoMoN> hey marcustomlinson 
[07:42] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[07:42] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[07:49] <luna_> morning
[07:51] <pieq>  Morning desktoppers!
[07:52] <pieq> Seb is not here, but maybe oSoMoN, duflu, marcustomlinson or didrocks would know:
[07:52] <pieq> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/issues/832#note_511010
[07:52] <pieq> It's an issue I raised a while ago (I ran into it a few days ago again while upgrading my desktop from bionic to focal)
[07:53] <oSoMoN> morning luna_ 
[07:53] <oSoMoN> salut pieq 
[07:53] <pieq> There seems to be a fix that's gonna land soon. Do you think we could pick up this fix for 20.04.1?
[07:53] <pieq> (assuming it works, gets merged, etc.)
[07:53] <pieq> (I mean merged in Pulseaudio)
[07:55] <duflu> pieq, yes I commented in your bug about that this week. I'm not in a hurry personally though. I would prefer to see a whole version number from upstream. But I'm not against anyone patching it either
[07:56] <duflu> Milestones don't really matter in this case -- it's not an install time issue and can get fixed in any update
[07:58] <pieq> duflu, it's just that 20.04.1 is the version that's gonna trigger the "Do you want to upgrade your 18.04 to 20.04?", so I assume a lot of people will upgrade at that moment, and since this issue is all about upgrading (it doesn't happen on a fresh install)...
[07:59] <duflu> pieq, fair point. Still, I personally don't have a strong opinion. Anyone who does can release the fix
[08:00] <Laney> moin
[08:01] <oSoMoN> hey Laney 
[08:01] <duflu> Morning Laney and luna_ 
[08:02] <didrocks> hey pieq 
[11:16] <ogra> tjaalton, poke ... 
[11:18] <ogra> tjaalton, my zoom snap seems to be very sluggish on a focal desktop with i915 ... i was wondering how forward/backward conpatible mesa is ... i.e. zoom ships based on core18 ... so it uses mesa 19.x while my desktop in focal uses mesa 20.x ...
[11:19] <ogra> i was wondering, if i'D move the zoom snap to a core20 base so it uses mesa 20.x ... would that be backwards compatible to i.e. not cause issues wen run on a 16.04 desktop with old mesa ?
[11:20] <tjaalton> ogra: shouldn't matter, but I doubt that's causing the sluggishness, or would fix it
[11:21] <tjaalton> but you'll have 20.0.x in bionic soon
[11:22] <tjaalton> it's in proposed
[11:22] <ogra> i saw there are some issues with kaby-lake i915 and Qt on certain kernels  ... but zoom seems to be the only sluggish app here ... other Qt apps and snaps seems to not expose that behaviour ... and it worked fine on 18.04 desktops as well as on 16.04 
[11:22] <ogra> also we seem to be several versions ahead of that kernel version ... (5.3 was the one with issues iirc)
[11:23] <ogra> s/worked/works/
[11:24] <ogra> ah, great ... i'll re-build the zoom snap once it landed in bionic, then i can at least rule out mesa 
[11:25] <ogra> it is really irritating ... zoom runs qtdiag on startup it it looks all fine (same output on all desktops) ... yet it behaves like molasses ... (even forcing LLVM via env variable makes it feel faster)
[13:26] <xnox> Laney:  do we expect snap-store snap to be seeded during early boot of the live session? and i.e. block showing "maybe ubiquity" screen?
[13:26] <xnox> also do we need to run tracker-store.service in live session?
[13:26] <xnox> those things seem to eat all of my CPU and RAM when trying to boot ubuntu desktop live session in a VM
[14:12] <Laney> I think fixing CPU and RAM eating bugs is more worthwhile, the live session is expected to be more or less full featured
[14:22] <KGB-2> mutter signed tags 9d69fbe Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.36.2-3ubuntu1 * mutter Debian release 3.36.2-3ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ij8OV
[14:22] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 459fbed Marco Trevisan * pushed 10 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iJhg
[14:22] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master a8da4fb Jeremy Bicha debian/libmutter-6-0.symbols * debian:libmutter-6-0.symbols: mark another Wayland symbol as Linux-specific * https://deb.li/4lvx
[14:22] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 5bc3213 Daniel van Vugt debian/patches/ series backend-x11-Reintroduce-XInitThreads.patch * Add backend-x11-Reintroduce-XInitThreads.patch * https://deb.li/3y2Lc
[14:22] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master d52cded Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/5So1
[14:22] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 463d293 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Finalise changelog * https://deb.li/3XsrN
[14:23] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/master 2650f22 Simon McVittie debian/ rules with-temp-xdg-runtime-dir * d/rules, d/with-temp-xdg-runtime-dir: Create temporary XDG_RUNTIME_DIR * https://deb.li/mcUR
[14:24] <Laney> |o/
[14:24] <Laney> \o|
[14:46] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:47] <luna_> heya
[14:47] <hellsworth> hi there luna_ 
[14:58] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[14:58] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN :)
[15:18] <KGB-2> mutter signed tags ad824ed Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.36.2-1ubuntu1_20.04.2 * mutter Debian release 3.36.2-1ubuntu1~20.04.2 * https://deb.li/3XDPM
[15:18] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/focal 150d220 Daniel van Vugt debian/patches/ series backend-x11-Reintroduce-XInitThreads.patch * Add backend-x11-Reintroduce-XInitThreads.patch * https://deb.li/JDB1
[15:18] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/focal 14b2e08 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Update changelog * https://deb.li/3m8KN
[15:18] <KGB-2> mutter ubuntu/focal d63f6fb Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/changelog * Finalise changelog * https://deb.li/3UJ3V