[00:06] I notice that my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server is using ssl 1.0.0. Does Canonical provide support for ssl that the openssl team doesn't? [00:06] yes [00:07] sarnold: Are there public notes on what exactly has (or hasn't) been patched in Canonical's version of ssl 1.0.0? [00:07] plujon: for example, you got this fix in the last ~two days, give or take timezones https://usn.ubuntu.com/4376-1/ [00:08] plujon: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/openssl.html [00:08] sarnold: Ah, thanks. Hmm. [00:09] If there's a bug in OpenSSL 1.0.0 that causes intermittent failures over https for Windows clients, would that kind of bug be handled by Canonical or would that be left as-is and only fixed in future OpenSSL versions (e.g. 1.1)? [00:10] I.e., it's not a security problem; it's a bug. [00:12] plujon: it's a bit hard to say; if there's a nice simple fix for the issue in upstream source control system then there's a decent shot it can be addressed through this process https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [00:12] plujon: if it just happened to be fixed by nature of a big rewrite, then it's less likely [00:19] could .. or just someone else's computer [00:20] ignore, blup. [00:20] plub [00:23] sarnold: Ah, thanks. I have a few Ubuntu server instances, and I think they contain such a bug. But it's rather awkward to verify. [00:24] plujon: heh, yeah, the whole point of tls is to make it difficult to inspect the traffic.. [00:24] The test case is a libcurl request from a Windows 8.1 machine over https. [00:25] The failure doesn't occur in Windows 10, presumably because Microsoft fixed their ssl libraries to handle the unexpected response from certain servers. [00:25] you've at least got a fair chunk of debugging done already [00:27] Yeah, curl_easy_perform sometimes fails with SEC_E_BUFFER_TOO_SMALL or SEC_E_MESSAGE_ALTERED. About 1/40 times in Windows 8.1 x64. [00:28] But it only fails with some servers. One of them being my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. === BromaxSux1 is now known as BromaxSux [01:16] hey [01:27] hey [01:29] lawr3nce: welcome [01:29] thx [01:29] what's up [01:37] hey === zbenjamin is now known as Guest94435 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:04] hello [02:05] I recently upgraded to 20.04 LTS coming from 16.04 LTS, and am finding GNOME 3 a little annoying. Anyone else have this issue coming from Unity? [02:24] luiserebii, install gnome-tweak-tool, to have more fun [02:24] !info gnome-tweak-tool [02:24] gnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweaks): adjust advanced settings for GNOME - transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.34.0-2ubuntu1 (focal), package size 1 kB, installed size 12 kB [02:24] Yup, yeah, I have it installed [02:25] There's some behavior that I've managed to correct through some extensions like "NoAnnoyance" and "Start Overlay in Application View" [02:25] There's something that I do want to change that I'm having trouble describing, though [02:26] In Unity, if you have an application with multiple windows, and you click the icon in the sidebar twice [02:26] It'll show you all of the open windows and allow you to pick between them [02:27] In GNOME, the behavior is similar, but it shows you the screens in small boxes, and it's harder to differentiate between the window you want [02:27] Alt-Tab is nice, but you kind of have to open the window to see it, if that makes any sense [02:28] I think that Unity would kind of show it in the background before you actually swap to it if you hover over it, so you can see the window you're about to use before swapping [02:32] Yo where's synaptic...? Without using the command line, how do I search packages in ubuntu [02:33] !info synaptic | seanicus [02:33] seanicus: synaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.84.6ubuntu5 (focal), package size 606 kB, installed size 3300 kB [02:34] is there a replacement for it in the newest version of ubuntu? [02:34] I understand i can downloaded, and i just did [02:34] im just wondering if there's another program that took its place [02:37] seanicus: There is none that replaces synaptic :) . there is on a desktop install "software center"- but, not as versitile as synaptic. [02:37] That is a strange choice. Why would canonical do that? [02:37] I couldn't figure out software center at all. Wasn't even a search bar [02:39] seanicus: I don't think I'm following. What did they "do"? Synaptic has always been an optional install, and it's still in the universe repo as always [02:40] I wonder if I misremember it being on ubuntu by default in earlier versions? [02:40] I feel like it should be something that's on by default, to help newer users who don't really understand packages that well [02:40] personally i just find it really convenient, more convenient than apt-cache search [02:46] if i want to install ubuntu onto a logical volume in lvm, do I need a dedicated /boot volume or just a root volume? === oneGun is now known as btp [02:58] how big is the drive, how is the machine booting? [02:58] Does someone know a good definition of "system user"? [03:04] is it conceptually the same as "non-interactive"? [03:18] is there a way to get unattended-upgr to spit out a progress bar? to see, for instance, how many packages are left to be upgraded? === erich is now known as Eickmeyer === leaftype2 is now known as leaftype [03:39] hey guys, anyone able to help me with a mounting issue? drive mounts fine, desktop shows files, but when i use terminal, there are no files in the mount point :| [03:40] adammm: What is the mount point? [03:40] mounted it in /home/adam/backup [03:40] It should be `/media//` unless you've done something custom [03:40] Ah [03:41] Does it show up when you run `mount`? [03:41] sec [03:42] yep [03:42] but funnily enough [03:42] it just shows as /home/backup [03:42] rather then /home/adam/backup. so i guess thats the problem [03:42] ok, back now with a bit more info... does anyone know if it's possible to install 20.04 LTS server on a RAID array? [03:42] Weird, guessing your files show up in /home/backup then? [03:42] I can try again from the installer, I guess [03:42] it seems to complain about no boot volume [03:43] indeed they do [03:43] super weird, i must of typed the mount point incorrectly more then once.. tried it like 3 times now ha ha [03:44] ningu: I believe the restriction with that is that /boot can't be on the RAID array [03:44] Unless your EFI knows how to talk whatever form of RAID you're using but probably not [03:44] thanks Amaranth [03:45] Amaranth: yeah fair enough. so I guess just pick one disk? [03:46] Amaranth: so that's an EFI limitation rather than grub? [03:47] Well, grub may or may not have problems with it too depending on your setup too [03:47] I don't really know to be honest, never done a RAID setup [03:47] I don't know either :) [03:47] the docs are not very good on this though [03:47] for the ubuntu installer I mean [03:47] https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/installation-advanced is for software RAID but it has you create a /boot partition separate from the RAID setup [03:48] ah thanks [03:50] ok, well I guess this means there is no way to get raid1 redundancy on /boot which is too bad [03:53] who all's still on Bionic? [03:55] ningu: It looks like grub should actually support software RAID and I'm not seeing a reason why /boot _couldn't_ be on the array but you do still need the separate EFI boot partition [03:56] oh I see what you mean [03:56] so just /boot/efi? [03:57] Yeah, I have no idea how accurate anything in this is or how good of an idea anything it says to do is but https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2018/04/19/uefi-booting-and-raid1/ seems to describe someone else figuring out how to do this [03:58] in a server i have a public /32, a public /28 and a private /24. i want to keep the /32 in the server that will act as router/firewall/ids and move the /28 in another server behind the 'firewall' server. at the moment routing works for the private /24 and i can do DNAT/SNAT, but i can't understand how to move the public /28 in the 2nd server. what do i need to look into? [03:58] Amaranth: awesome, that looks very helpful, thanks [03:58] Oh, and that someone else is a fairly well known kernel developer so it's probably good [03:59] :) [04:03] Is there a way to reduce the fading from a terminal when it goes out of focus? It becomes a little blurrier, and sometimes I like to read from it or examine terminal outputs side-by-side [04:06] Huh, mine doesn't seem to blur [04:08] luiserebii: Several desktops in the ubuntu eco system - tell the channel which DE and release you are using. [04:11] Ahhh, sorry. 20.04 LTS, GNOME 3 [04:14] luiserebii: I do not use GDM here - I am sure however that others here can advise on where that setting is :) [04:29] Ooo kitty! [04:30] Hey, I am having a problem connecting from Wireguard in Ubuntu 20.04 (I am not using the DKMS version). When I use "wg-quick up wg0", it connects to the WG server peer just fine, and I can ping it from the client, but it does not connect to the Internet. I'm just looking for any networking tools to debug this issue, since I am very bad at networking skills. :) [04:31] I want to mention that this worked fine when I was using Debian with systemd's networking stack (networkd, resolved and wpa_supplicant, but is just not working on Ubuntu 20.04 with NetworkManager for some reason.... [04:32] you check wireguard's permissions? is wireguard whitelisted in the firewall? [04:34] "ufw status" shows that it's inactive. I have it disabled right now. "iptables -L" also shows nothing. I'm not sure if that was by default when I installed, or if I just forgot to start it up again at some point. [04:37] just checking. some security features can get a touch overzealous. [04:39] Lol, yeah. [04:40] I'm just sitting in some IRC channels as Ubuntu upgrades from 18 to 20... since, well, I can't do much else. [04:43] No prob. I'm still trying to figure it out myself. Networking stuff can be really involved to the point of insanity and frustration for me. Lols. [04:43] It's just funny how I got it to work on one distro, then when I wanted to try Ubuntu... No dice. :( [04:44] hey guys, so after upgrading to 20.04 im having issues with ssh, right after booting, it will work fine, can connect to the box. after a short time, 10mins. ssh stops working. starting to do my head in :/ [04:45] I was really hoping Gnome Control Center and NetworkManager would already have a graphical way of setting up Wireguard by now.... === conjo is now known as spagettios [07:27] hi, in 20.04 I see some discrepancy in reported CPU usage of the graphical system monitor and top. e.g. 'tracker-miner-fs' uses about 3% in system monitor but at the same time, top shows around 30% [07:29] same happened for a skypeforlinux process that kept my fans running high. there was a low percentage shown in system monitor, but top showed again something much higher (that coresponded much better to the fan's noise) [07:35] ok, it seems top doesn't care about the number of cpu cores while system monitor does. top shows 100% even if 1 core is used by 100%. i wonder if it shows 800% if all cores are at 100% :D [07:40] rjb: i prefer using htop instead of top [08:29] hello :-) [08:30] I happen to have an Intel bluetooth/wifi combo card in my laptop [08:31] and it does this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zwKtVTjTMF/ [08:31] it fails to upload firmware, to reset the bluetooth module [08:32] device is Bus 001 Device 003: ID 048d:c100 Integrated Technology Express, Inc. ITE Device(8910) === beaver is now known as beaver|thegame [09:59] hi, is there an irc channel for snap? [09:59] I've just removed an app that was installed from a snap and it removed my user data from my home as well. I want the userdata back [10:11] imi You mean it removed all snap app datas from your computer? [10:13] I mean when I removed the app using "ubuntu softwares" it removed the directory ~/snap/appname completely [10:13] /home/imi/snap/appname to clarify [10:19] Yea you should backup snap app datas before you remove the snap === conjo is now known as spagettios [10:24] actually I did because I'm paranoid, but apps shouldn't make users paranoid. this is an antifeature [11:07] imi: see https://snapcraft.io/docs/snapshots [11:08] (these should be created automatically) [11:09] mcphail: thanks [11:10] hi-please anyone tell me if Network-Manager is a 'Frontend' or a 'Backend'. If a front end what is its backend please help/many thanks [11:11] typo if = is === beaver|thegame is now known as beaver [11:54] 'Morning all [11:54] Morning! [11:54] morning [11:57] installation can't even pass format [12:02] metbsd, boot the live session, so you can open the terminal and provide infos [12:35] hi [12:35] I have a "script"/command which sorts out and delete specific file extensions :"find . -iregex '.*\.$jpg\|gif\|png\|jpeg\|rar\|txt\|sfv$$' -delete && find . -type d -empty -delete" - How I can extend it that filename with *foo.123 and smaller than 1 GB will be deleted? [12:36] dex1983: the man page for find explains how to use -size [12:37] ok thanks and how I can do it with *foo.123* [12:37] dex1983: also, the first result on google for "linux find files smaller than" is https://www.ostechnix.com/find-files-bigger-smaller-x-size-linux/ [12:37] that this would be deleted too? [12:38] I only made it with file name extensions [12:38] but with foo.123 it does noet work [12:40] I have a "script"/command which sorts out and delete specific file extensions :"find . -iregex '.*\.$jpg\|gif\|png\|jpeg\|rar\|txt\|sfv\|*foo.123$$' -delete && find . -type d -empty -delete" [12:40] like this sample [12:41] but foo.123 will not be deleted :-( [12:41] dex1983: -name "*foo.123*" [12:42] ah ok thanks I will try it [12:43] dex1983: you are better off asking in #bash [12:44] oh ok thanks :-) for the channel hint === gr8zatara7 is now known as gr8zatara [14:25] Hi, purchased a Satechi TYPE-C Multiport adapter with usb ports, network, usb-c to HDMI ports, everything works fine except HDMI. When it is plugged in through the adapter, my computer doesnt find the monitor. Anyone know if its possible to solve this or shall i return the adapter? [14:28] hi [14:30] strange question: I have an A/V receiver, Marantz NR1608, 7.2, spotify connect and all that jazz but has terrible bluetooth handling. I'd like to stream audio there from an ubuntu machine. anybody have a good idea? I thought of an external BT connector but would like to keep the device circus from overgrowing [14:32] pgpfox, no idea, but i read something about some BIOS settings to change === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [14:34] ioria hmm okey [14:36] I have a question , normally when you backup Home directory , which files must exclude ? all the hidden file ? I plan to backup .bash and some .config file but when I restore those hidden file , the ubuntu OS unable login .What is the reason it goes wrong ? [14:37] Is there some hidden files which . dots conflict and which cannot be replace with same OS at home ? [14:42] nbusrone: As far as I know, you don’t *have to* exclude any files. [14:45] vlt : i tried with some hidden files replacement , it does not let me login after replace such as .ICEauthority [14:47] vlt : I don't know how much more of . dots hidden file cannot be replace as I only found out one if it cannot login was due to .ICEauthority. I need to find out more so I can exclude them [14:47] how unsecure would it be if i installed ubuntu on a computer set it up as a router and web/game server? === palimaar_ is now known as palimaar [14:51] annihilator: I’d say not more unsecure than Debian, for example. Just don’t do anything stupid ;-) [14:52] ....(me being idiot) i ment compared to using an off the shelf router and setting ubuntu strictly as web/game server [14:54] annihilator: Off the shelf *might* even be slightly more insecure (due to missing updates). [14:56] atm i am using pfsense and using a tplink archer 5400x as wireless access and switch [14:56] but im not wanting to use a vm of ubuntu to do hosting and rather not use my main computer to act as host either lol [14:57] the fun part is if i use ubuntu as my router i am going to need to route 1 IP through a vpn [15:01] Hi [15:01] Hi, i want to check if package foo is installed or not in my bash script. [15:01] any idea? [15:11] Hi. Is there an alternative to net plan? I’m using 18.04 [15:14] hey guys, just done a nmap on my box, strange ports are open. yet its a fresh install from this afternoon, 20.04.. 548, 631, 8200, 9100. 9101, 9102, 9103, 20005.. so ummm wtf? [15:17] adammm: check /etc/services to see what they are for. [15:18] yeah im just looking through it now [15:18] cant find any of these ports in there tho [15:18] afpovertcp 548/tcp # AFP over TCP [15:19] adammm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers [15:19] apple filing protocol.. [15:20] adammm: Open 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1? [15:20] reason why my trawling, someone just popped onto a private ircd. told us to 'secure' the box.. wouldnt tell us what, where, he even opered up, and showed us part of the conf.. said it wasnt an ircd exploit but more so a system administrative issue.. [15:20] mates box is running 16.04 [15:21] vlad-k 127 [15:22] eitherway, was curious why apple filing protocol etc is all active [15:25] adammm, maybe because netatalk is installed ? [15:29] ioria is netatalk even needed? i dont have apple crud ha ha [15:29] adammm, i really don't think it's needed [15:32] Hello [15:33] I'm trying to get my preseed setup running to install ubuntu machines automatically. However I still see the questions for the non-root user and the partitioning through the setup. [15:33] This is how the configuration for partitioning and user creation looks like: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sXrbyHSrxc/ [15:34] Can somebody help me to figure out what's wrong or how to enable debugging on the setup to see which part of the debian installer is still not configured in the preseed config? [15:34] Hi! Installing Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on an SSD. Getting an error saying that the bootloader cannot be installed at the specific location. It gives me a list of other locations to chose from. Which location should I go with? [15:38] When I am enabling secure boot in uefi screen resolution drops to 1024x768. Nothing else changed. If I disable secure boot it goes back to 1920x1080. Anybody knows how to fix this? [15:39] curiosity, nvidia driver in use ? [15:39] nope. no proprietary drivers. [15:39] just the open source amd driver [15:39] as far as I know [15:40] curiosity, check with lspci -nnk [15:41] ioria is there any easy way to drop ssh brute force attempts? [15:41] adammm, stop sshd [15:42] ioria appart from that [15:42] adammm, sy, mate not an ssh specialist; try #linux [15:43] ioria, this is the output: https://pastebin.com/d6JF9GYP Line 75 says tjhe driver is "amdgpu". [15:45] adammm, nope... look carefully [15:47] ioria yeah difficult situation. a mates server, 13000km from me. ill just disable it for now. cheers [15:47] adammm, you want 'Kernel driver in use: amdgpu' not 'Kernel modules: amdgpu' ; i think has been unloaded [15:48] adammm, sorry [15:48] curiosity, you want 'Kernel driver in use: amdgpu' not 'Kernel modules: amdgpu' ; i think has been unloaded [15:48] all good :) [15:54] iora, may this problem be due to the lack of configuring secure boot in ubuntu? I am new to this "secure boot" stuff. [16:04] curiosity, first check your kernel version then dmesg or journlactl -0 [16:04] curiosity, i mean 'journalctl -b -0' [16:04] dmesg -T show me this: "[Sa Mai 30 17:17:53 2020] AMD IOMMUv2 driver by Joerg Roedel [16:04] [Sa Mai 30 17:17:53 2020] PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key [16:04] [Sa Mai 30 17:17:53 2020] Lockdown: Loading of unsigned modules is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7 [16:04] " maybe this is related? [16:05] sure [16:05] curiosity, uname -r ? [16:05] 4.15.0-101-generic [16:07] curiosity, is this bare metal or a vm ? [16:08] ioria, bare metal :) [16:08] curiosity, cat /proc/cmdline [16:08] BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-101-generic root=UUID=cf229022-6f0b-4513-8c7e-686fc63e7216 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1 [16:11] curiosity, journalctl -b -0 | grep -i amdgpu [16:12] iora, {}. No Output. [16:13] curiosity, dmesg | grep -i amdgpu [16:13] I have a question , normally when you backup Home directory , which files must exclude ? all the hidden file ? I plan to backup .bash and some .config file but when I restore those hidden file , the ubuntu OS unable login .What is the reason it goes wrong ? [16:13] Is there some hidden files which . dots conflict and which cannot be replace with same OS at home ? [16:14] ioria, again no output. [16:16] curiosity, do yo uhave a ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log [16:17] ioria, yup. [16:17] curiosity, can you paste it ? [16:19] ioria, https://pastebin.com/TY05nLWS [16:20] What is that command to fix the Bluetooth again? I have restarted my PC and it seems to revert. [16:21] curiosity, SB is disabled atm, right ? [16:22] supastupid, i told you it wasn't persistent [16:22] Secure boot is enabled at this moment of time, at least in UEFI. I do not know if I need to tel ubuntu something about that :) [16:24] ioria, maybe that log as been created when secure boot was disabled? [16:25] Hi [16:26] I've done sth terrible and now i lose my Grqphical environment [16:26] I tried to install dwm and ... [16:26] Can anybody please help me? [16:26] curiosity, if you use opensource amdgpu you should be ok; paste the entire 'journalctl -b -0' [16:26] I dont like this situation [16:32] curiosity, also /var/log/gpu-manager.log can be handy [16:38] ioria, this one first: https://pastebin.com/mcpch4QA [16:42] Aryan, then you want to revert to the default window manager on installation of you device. I do not know how to do that though... [16:42] ioria, 'journalctl -b -0 seems to big for pastebin. it has about 500000 lines :o [16:43] curiosity, have you tried to install amdgpu-pto from amd ? [16:43] *pro [16:44] there is one thing that keeps repeating. maybe this is of help: https://pastebin.com/igtStS8s [16:45] this is an excerpt of journalctl -b -0 [16:45] virtualbox is installed on this box. [16:45] but ubuntu runs on bare metal [16:45] ioria, yeah. I am also wondering if that might fix it. I think I will try this. [16:46] Hello, what was that command that fixed bluetooth again? [16:48] Specifically what was that article ioria mentioned? [16:51] ioria, I will install with "./amdgpu-pro-install -y --opencl=pal,legacy" I wi,ll report back if this fixes the problem. [16:51] supastupid, https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/14/linux-gaming-tip-how-to-pair-your-xbox-one-s-and-switch-pro-controllers-via-bluetooth/#366060bc101e [16:54] curiosity, i was wondering if you 'already' have installed amdgpu-pto from amd [16:54] Does anyone have a suggestion for a GUI application to manage LDAP accounts? [16:55] ioria, nope I have not :-) I had them installed in the past but they caused some probpem, so I eradicated them from my system. :D [16:57] ioria, this is weird I am getting this "The amdgpu driver is already installed or was not uninstalled correctly. [16:57] Please fully uninstall the driver before proceeding with installation [16:57] You can try running the amdgpu-uninstall or amdgpu-pro-uninstall script [16:57] present in /usr/bin to clean up the previous installation [16:57] " [16:59] ioria, amdgpu-pro-uninstall is not working correctly. https://pastebin.com/gUq1zvse [16:59] curiosity, told ya [16:59] yeah it seems that there is some old garbage [16:59] yep [17:00] Anyone can help Aryan with reinstalling GDM ? [17:01] curiosity, export LC_ALL=C amdgpu-uninstall [17:01] hey all, I updated to the latest ubuntu LTS and now my python script doesn't work. I get an Import Error "ImportError: No module named MySQLdb" I think I've tried everything I've seen online, anyone able to help me get my script working again? [17:02] filifunky: did you try doing a pip install to get the MySQLdb package? [17:02] i did! at least I believe I did [17:02] filifunky: is the script written in python2 or 3? [17:03] 2 i believe, my version is 2.7.18rc1 [17:03] I don't believe I've touched 3 [17:04] you might try doing an apt install python-mysqldb [17:04] ioria, bash: export: `amdgpu-uninstall': not a valid identifier [17:05] bytesafari: Package 'python-mysqldb' has no installation candidate [17:06] curiosity, export LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get -f install [17:07] bytesafari: If i try pip install mysql-python I get a lot of red text [17:07] ioria, bash: export: `apt-get': not a valid identifier [17:07] bash: export: `-f': not a valid identifier [17:07] i will paste it [17:07] curiosity, export LC_ALL=C ; sudo apt-get -f install [17:07] filifunky: looks like I only see a python3 package in the ubuntu package search. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mysqldb&searchon=names&suite=focal§ion=all [17:08] bytesafari: ahh you're right I get a message that says this:DEPRECATION: Python 2.7 reached the end of its life on January 1st, 2020. Please upgrade your Python as Python 2.7 is no longer maintained. pip 21.0 will drop support for Python 2.7 in January 2021. More details about Python 2 support in pip, can be found at https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/development/release-process/#python-2-support [17:08] ioria, https://pastebin.com/BkHwfq6Z [17:08] so I have to go into python 3 i suppose, is that what you infer? bytesafari [17:09] filifunky: you may be able to install python2, but probably the best thing you could do is try to port your script to python3 [17:09] https://linuxconfig.org/install-python-2-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux [17:10] curiosity, sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat [17:11] bytesafari oh thanks for that link, looks like I just have to decide which one makes sense for me [17:12] filifunky: Python 2.7 is depreciated, so porting your script is probably the best long-term solution. That solution is just a stop-gap [17:12] What is equivalent python-virtualenv for ubuntu 20.04? [17:12] ioria, https://pastebin.com/L5AjviJm [17:12] curiosity, sudo kill -9 7110 [17:12] bytesafari: what does depreciated mean? loss of functionality? [17:13] ioria, no output. Which means it killed the process I hope :) [17:13] curiosity, export LC_ALL=C ; sudo apt-get -f install [17:13] filifunky: It means that python 2.7 is no longer under active development, so there is no support for python 2.7 anymore. The development of python has continued to python 3.x [17:14] filifunky: It's likely that python2 will be removed from the software repositories, possibly sooner rather than later [17:14] ioria, this time it worked. https://pastebin.com/4WUjDjpx [17:14] bytesafari: yikes, ok [17:15] curiosity, sudo apt autoremove --purge [17:15] bytesafari: does this look like a good guide to work from? https://docs.python.org/3/howto/pyporting.html [17:17] ioria, It worked. https://pastebin.com/hnaKdk6z [17:18] curiosity, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu [17:18] filifunky: It's from the official python documentation, so it's a good place to start. You will likely have to go back through your code and change some things so that you're compatible with 3.x. Python 2.7 is on life-support, so you have some time, but I wouldn't expect python 2.7 code to last for very much longer [17:19] great thanks bytesafari, will dig in [17:19] filifunky: happy to help :) [17:19] ioria, https://pastebin.com/3RdkCwJb [17:20] curiosity, purge amdgpu-pro-pin [17:22] ioria, has beend purged. https://pastebin.com/MYwXEfvd [17:23] I was reading this last night, pointed to me by Amaranth: https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2018/04/19/uefi-booting-and-raid1/ [17:23] I'm curious, how exactly does this mean it will prefer one raid1 volume over the other? [17:24] or does it just mean, if there is a difference between the raid1 volumes in the array, the resync will fail? [17:24] I believe it means the UEFI doesn't actually understand raid so it'll only write to one disk, if it does any writes during boot [17:24] So then the raid config is set up to prefer that one when doing a resync so you don't delete what the UEFI just wrote [17:24] Amaranth: that much is fairly clear, yes [17:25] Amaranth: that's kind of what it says but I don't see how the raid config chooses one over the other. it just forces resync on each boot with the systemd service [17:25] which will verify they're in sync, yes ... but what if they aren't? [17:25] I guess this is a general raid/md question [17:26] curiosity, install apt-forktracer [17:26] ioria, ah I see. "export LC_ALL=C" It is doing what I was thinking about. [17:26] yep [17:26] Yeah I guess I thought the bit I skipped over with the systemd unit was doing that but it doesn't seem to be [17:27] It's just telling it to resync the efi partition then mount it, nothing about how to resync [17:27] I'm trying to find better docs on resync [17:27] and what happens if the data doesn't match [17:27] ioria, forktracer is installed. [17:28] curiosity, run it [17:30] ioria, https://pastebin.com/wFEnv1d5 [17:30] ningu: I can't see anything documented about the resync algorithm, if I had to guess I'd say for RAID1 since you don't have parity bits it takes whatever one the filesystem thinks is newer [17:30] Don't know how that'd handle deletes but I guess the answer is probably that it wouldn't [17:31] curiosity, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [17:31] Amaranth: yeah fair enough. it would be a lot easier to determine if you had more than 2 disks on RAID1 since you could go with majority [17:31] well... maybe not actually. in this efi example, you'd want to go with the minority actually [17:32] Yeah, guessing it wouldn't do what you want with more than 2 drives or with mode 5 [17:32] ioria, https://pastebin.com/txpY7vtz [17:33] > If the array wasn't currently running (e.g., if this were a rebuild on assemble from an unclean shutdown), then the decision on what to copy is made using the update count fields stored in the superblock. [17:34] That's not very useful here since the EFI also won't modify the mdadm superblock though, hmm [17:34] Amaranth: ok, but in this case it would have been a clean shutdown as far as mdadm knows. yeah [17:34] by the way I assume I should grub-install on the raid1 like that post says [17:34] so that either disk can boot (which is more or less the point) [17:35] Yeah I dunno how it decides, I suppose if your resync deletes the stuff your UEFI writes you might lose some boot configuration [17:35] curiosity, you probably want to remove that amdgpu-pro source from /etc/sources.list.d (probably) [17:36] Amaranth: maybe so, yeah. what would it possibly write there, anyway? [17:36] the BIOS settings are stored in CMOS so ... [17:38] ioria, i removed it. [17:38] ningu: I have no idea, I don't think it's something they all do [17:38] UEFI is... not great code [17:39] So some board might not have or realize it can use NVRAM and write out all custom config changes to the ESP [17:39] curiosity, sudo apt install --reinstall xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-all [17:39] Amaranth: yeah who knows :) [17:40] Some might store what boot device was picked last (even though obviously the answer is this one since otherwise it wouldn't look at that partition at all) [17:40] They do some goofy things sometimes [17:41] Amaranth: btw, you don't happen to know if there are good docs on how grub.cfg is generated in current ubuntu? [17:41] I mean beyond /etc/default/grub. how does it generate the root device instructions for example? [17:42] ioria, worked fine. https://pastebin.com/gvG6dMtG [17:42] it seems that /etc/grub.d stuff is not really meant to be edited. I can delve into it further but it's a bit intricate [17:42] curiosity, dpkg -l | grep -i mesa [17:43] ioria, https://pastebin.com/M5BVyvGR [17:43] ningu: I believe it's https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/grub-mkconfig.8.html [17:43] Beyond that I don't know [17:43] oh ok [17:44] Oh of course it's a FSF tool so the man page is useless [17:44] yeah that looks right, although it's an info doc rather than manpage :) [17:44] haha yeah [17:44] And since it's the FSF and this is a Debian-based distro the info doc is probably in non-free/restricted :D [17:44] curiosity, you can try a reboot; may i ask you why you don't use the newer kernel and xorg (HWE) with that card ? [17:45] so actually it looks like what I really want to know is something else... hrm [17:45] I think this is an mdadm issue and I need to reboot to live server iso to fix it [17:46] the superblock has a name for the array I don't want and it's creating a /dev/md entry for it under that name [17:46] but I can't stop mdadm on the root device [17:46] I'll give it a try with the reboot [17:47] the kees cook blog post was really helpful though [17:47] it seems a little risky... like, couldn't the md superblock at the end of the disk be overwritten accidentally by the UEFI stuff? [17:47] ioria, of course you can ask :) maybe um because I am not conscious of that possibility :) If reboot does not fix the problem I can try this. I will reboot and will report. [17:47] I guess the resync would take care of that [17:48] curiosity, ok, good [17:48] It does look like /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ for more complex changes is still the way to go for that, btw [17:50] ningu: you can put complete boot entries in /etc/grub.d/40_custom [17:50] akik: oh cool, thanks [17:51] ioria, did not fix the problem unfortunately. So, first thing to try is a new kernel? :) [17:52] curiosity, cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log [17:53] ioria, https://pastebin.com/FZxs27Yn [17:54] curiosity, lsmod [17:55] ioria, https://pastebin.com/NJT1D5jY [18:00] curiosity, did you unistall amdgpu-pro ? [18:03] ioria, I think I did not. There was some error while trying that. I tried it again now. It worked now it seems. [18:03]