[00:06] <plujon> I notice that my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server is using ssl 1.0.0.  Does Canonical provide support for ssl that the openssl team doesn't?
[00:06] <sarnold> yes
[00:07] <plujon> sarnold: Are there public notes on what exactly has (or hasn't) been patched in Canonical's version of ssl 1.0.0?
[00:07] <sarnold> plujon: for example, you got this fix in the last ~two days, give or take timezones https://usn.ubuntu.com/4376-1/
[00:08] <sarnold> plujon: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/openssl.html
[00:08] <plujon> sarnold: Ah, thanks.  Hmm.
[00:09] <plujon> If there's a bug in OpenSSL 1.0.0 that causes intermittent failures over https for Windows clients, would that kind of bug be handled by Canonical or would that be left as-is and only fixed in future OpenSSL versions (e.g. 1.1)?
[00:10] <plujon> I.e., it's not a security problem; it's a bug.
[00:12] <sarnold> plujon: it's a bit hard to say; if there's a nice simple fix for the issue in upstream source control system then there's a decent shot it can be addressed through this process https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[00:12] <sarnold> plujon: if it just happened to be fixed by nature of a big rewrite, then it's less likely
[00:19] <oerheks> could .. or just someone else's computer
[00:20] <oerheks> ignore, blup.
[00:20] <sarnold> plub
[00:23] <plujon> sarnold: Ah, thanks.  I have a few Ubuntu server instances, and I think they contain such a bug.  But it's rather awkward to verify.
[00:24] <sarnold> plujon: heh, yeah, the whole point of tls is to make it difficult to inspect the traffic..
[00:24] <plujon> The test case is a libcurl request from a Windows 8.1 machine over https.
[00:25] <plujon> The failure doesn't occur in Windows 10, presumably because Microsoft fixed their ssl libraries to handle the unexpected response from certain servers.
[00:25] <sarnold> you've at least got a fair chunk of debugging done already
[00:27] <plujon> Yeah, curl_easy_perform sometimes fails with SEC_E_BUFFER_TOO_SMALL or SEC_E_MESSAGE_ALTERED.  About 1/40 times in Windows 8.1 x64.
[00:28] <plujon> But it only fails with some servers.  One of them being my Ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
[01:16] <lawr3nce> hey
[01:27] <lawr3nce> hey
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> lawr3nce: welcome
[01:29] <lawr3nce> thx
[01:29] <lawr3nce> what's up
[01:37] <lawr3nce> hey
[02:04] <luiserebii> hello
[02:05] <luiserebii> I recently upgraded to 20.04 LTS coming from 16.04 LTS, and am finding GNOME 3 a little annoying. Anyone else have this issue coming from Unity?
[02:24] <oerheks> luiserebii, install gnome-tweak-tool, to have more fun
[02:24] <oerheks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[02:24] <luiserebii> Yup, yeah, I have it installed
[02:25] <luiserebii> There's some behavior that I've managed to correct through some extensions like "NoAnnoyance" and "Start Overlay in Application View"
[02:25] <luiserebii> There's something that I do want to change that I'm having trouble describing, though
[02:26] <luiserebii> In Unity, if you have an application with multiple windows, and you click the icon in the sidebar twice
[02:26] <luiserebii> It'll show you all of the open windows and allow you to pick between them
[02:27] <luiserebii> In GNOME, the behavior is similar, but it shows you the screens in small boxes, and it's harder to differentiate between the window you want
[02:27] <luiserebii> Alt-Tab is nice, but you kind of have to open the window to see it, if that makes any sense
[02:28] <luiserebii> I think that Unity would kind of show it in the background before you actually swap to it if you hover over it, so you can see the window you're about to use before swapping
[02:32] <seanicus> Yo where's synaptic...?  Without using the command line, how do I search packages in ubuntu
[02:33] <Bashing-om> !info synaptic | seanicus
[02:34] <seanicus> is there a replacement for it in the newest version of ubuntu?
[02:34] <seanicus> I understand i can downloaded, and i just did
[02:34] <seanicus> im just wondering if there's another program that took its place
[02:37] <Bashing-om> seanicus: There is none that replaces synaptic :) . there is on a desktop install "software center"- but, not as versitile as synaptic.
[02:37] <seanicus> That is a strange choice.  Why would canonical do that?
[02:37] <seanicus> I couldn't figure out software center at all.  Wasn't even a search bar
[02:39] <CodeMouse92> seanicus: I don't think I'm following. What did they "do"? Synaptic has always been an optional install, and it's still in the universe repo as always
[02:40] <seanicus> I wonder if I misremember it being on ubuntu by default in earlier versions?
[02:40] <seanicus> I feel like it should be something that's on by default, to help newer users who don't really understand packages that well
[02:40] <seanicus> personally i just find it really convenient, more convenient than apt-cache search
[02:46] <ningu> if i want to install ubuntu onto a logical volume in lvm, do I need a dedicated /boot volume or just a root volume?
[02:58] <tds> how big is the drive, how is the machine booting?
[02:58] <Sven_vB> Does someone know a good definition of "system user"?
[03:04] <Sven_vB> is it conceptually the same as "non-interactive"?
[03:18] <skyliner_369> is there a way to get unattended-upgr to spit out a progress bar? to see, for instance, how many packages are left to be upgraded?
[03:39] <adammm> hey guys, anyone able to help me with a mounting issue? drive mounts fine, desktop shows files, but when i use terminal, there are no files in the mount point :|
[03:40] <Amaranth> adammm: What is the mount point?
[03:40] <adammm> mounted it in /home/adam/backup
[03:40] <Amaranth> It should be `/media/<user>/<drive label>` unless you've done something custom
[03:40] <Amaranth> Ah
[03:41] <Amaranth> Does it show up when you run `mount`?
[03:41] <adammm> sec
[03:42] <adammm> yep
[03:42] <adammm> but funnily enough
[03:42] <adammm> it just shows as /home/backup
[03:42] <adammm> rather then /home/adam/backup. so i guess thats the problem
[03:42] <ningu> ok, back now with a bit more info... does anyone know if it's possible to install 20.04 LTS server on a RAID array?
[03:42] <Amaranth> Weird, guessing your files show up in /home/backup then?
[03:42] <ningu> I can try again from the installer, I guess
[03:42] <ningu> it seems to complain about no boot volume
[03:43] <adammm> indeed they do
[03:43] <adammm> super weird, i must of typed the mount point incorrectly more then once.. tried it like 3 times now ha ha
[03:44] <Amaranth> ningu: I believe the restriction with that is that /boot can't be on the RAID array
[03:44] <Amaranth> Unless your EFI knows how to talk whatever form of RAID you're using but probably not
[03:44] <adammm> thanks Amaranth
[03:45] <ningu> Amaranth: yeah fair enough. so I guess just pick one disk?
[03:46] <ningu> Amaranth: so that's an EFI limitation rather than grub?
[03:47] <Amaranth> Well, grub may or may not have problems with it too depending on your setup too
[03:47] <Amaranth> I don't really know to be honest, never done a RAID setup
[03:47] <ningu> I don't know either :)
[03:47] <ningu> the docs are not very good on this though
[03:47] <ningu> for the ubuntu installer I mean
[03:47] <Amaranth> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/installation-advanced is for software RAID but it has you create a /boot partition separate from the RAID setup
[03:48] <ningu> ah thanks
[03:50] <ningu> ok, well I guess this means there is no way to get raid1 redundancy on /boot which is too bad
[03:53] <skyliner_369> who all's still on Bionic?
[03:55] <Amaranth> ningu: It looks like grub should actually support software RAID and I'm not seeing a reason why /boot _couldn't_ be on the array but you do still need the separate EFI boot partition
[03:56] <ningu> oh I see what you mean
[03:56] <ningu> so just /boot/efi?
[03:57] <Amaranth> Yeah, I have no idea how accurate anything in this is or how good of an idea anything it says to do is but https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2018/04/19/uefi-booting-and-raid1/ seems to describe someone else figuring out how to do this
[03:58] <sorin-mihai_> in a server i have a public /32, a public /28 and a private /24. i want to keep the /32 in the server that will act as router/firewall/ids and move the /28 in another server behind the 'firewall' server. at the moment routing works for the private /24 and i can do DNAT/SNAT, but i can't understand how to move the public /28 in the 2nd server. what do i need to look into?
[03:58] <ningu> Amaranth: awesome, that looks very helpful, thanks
[03:58] <Amaranth> Oh, and that someone else is a fairly well known kernel developer so it's probably good
[03:59] <ningu> :)
[04:03] <luiserebii> Is there a way to reduce the fading from a terminal when it goes out of focus? It becomes a little blurrier, and sometimes I like to read from it or examine terminal outputs side-by-side
[04:06] <Amaranth> Huh, mine doesn't seem to blur
[04:08] <Bashing-om> luiserebii: Several desktops in the ubuntu eco system - tell the channel which DE and release you are using.
[04:11] <luiserebii> Ahhh, sorry. 20.04 LTS, GNOME 3
[04:14] <Bashing-om> luiserebii: I do not use GDM here - I am sure however that others here can advise on where that setting is :)
[04:29] <skyliner_369> Ooo kitty!
[04:30] <mrjpaxton3> Hey, I am having a problem connecting from Wireguard in Ubuntu 20.04 (I am not using the DKMS version). When I use "wg-quick up wg0", it connects to the WG server peer just fine, and I can ping it from the client, but it does not connect to the Internet. I'm just looking for any networking tools to debug this issue, since I am very bad at networking skills. :)
[04:31] <mrjpaxton3> I want to mention that this worked fine when I was using Debian with systemd's networking stack (networkd, resolved and wpa_supplicant, but is just not working on Ubuntu 20.04 with NetworkManager for some reason....
[04:32] <skyliner_369> you check wireguard's permissions? is wireguard whitelisted in the firewall?
[04:34] <mrjpaxton3> "ufw status" shows that it's inactive. I have it disabled right now. "iptables -L" also shows nothing. I'm not sure if that was by default when I installed, or if I just forgot to start it up again at some point.
[04:37] <skyliner_369> just checking. some security features can get a touch overzealous.
[04:39] <mrjpaxton3> Lol, yeah.
[04:40] <skyliner_369> I'm just sitting in some IRC channels as Ubuntu upgrades from 18 to 20... since, well, I can't do much else.
[04:43] <mrjpaxton3> No prob. I'm still trying to figure it out myself. Networking stuff can be really involved to the point of insanity and frustration for me. Lols.
[04:43] <mrjpaxton3> It's just funny how I got it to work on one distro, then when I wanted to try Ubuntu... No dice. :(
[04:44] <adammm> hey guys, so after upgrading to 20.04 im having issues with ssh, right after booting, it will work fine, can connect to the box. after a short time, 10mins. ssh stops working. starting to do my head in :/
[04:45] <mrjpaxton3> I was really hoping Gnome Control Center and NetworkManager would already have a graphical way of setting up Wireguard by now....
[07:27] <rjb> hi, in 20.04 I see some discrepancy in reported CPU usage of the graphical system monitor and top. e.g. 'tracker-miner-fs' uses about 3% in system monitor but at the same time, top shows around 30%
[07:29] <rjb> same happened for a skypeforlinux process that kept my fans running high. there was a low percentage shown in system monitor, but top showed again something much higher (that coresponded much better to the fan's noise)
[07:35] <rjb> ok, it seems top doesn't care about the number of cpu cores while system monitor does. top shows 100% even if 1 core is used by 100%. i wonder if it shows 800% if all cores are at 100% :D
[07:40] <ThinkT510> rjb: i prefer using htop instead of top
[08:29] <ioanm> hello :-)
[08:30] <ioanm> I happen to have an Intel bluetooth/wifi combo card in my laptop
[08:31] <ioanm> and it does this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zwKtVTjTMF/
[08:31] <ioanm> it fails to upload firmware, to reset the bluetooth module
[08:32] <ioanm> device is Bus 001 Device 003: ID 048d:c100 Integrated Technology Express, Inc. ITE Device(8910)
[09:59] <imi> hi, is there an irc channel for snap?
[09:59] <imi> I've just removed an app that was installed from a snap and it removed my user data from my home as well. I want the userdata back
[10:11] <vbalage> imi You mean it removed all snap app datas from your computer?
[10:13] <imi> I mean when I removed the app using "ubuntu softwares" it removed the directory ~/snap/appname completely
[10:13] <imi>  /home/imi/snap/appname to clarify
[10:19] <vbalage> Yea you should backup snap app datas before you remove the snap
[10:24] <imi> actually I did because I'm paranoid, but apps shouldn't make users paranoid. this is an antifeature
[11:07] <mcphail> imi: see https://snapcraft.io/docs/snapshots
[11:08] <mcphail> (these should be created automatically)
[11:09] <imi> mcphail: thanks
[11:10] <spagettios> hi-please anyone tell me if Network-Manager is a 'Frontend' or a 'Backend'. If a front end what is its backend please help/many thanks
[11:11] <spagettios> typo if = is
[11:54] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:54] <ioanm> Morning!
[11:54] <luna_> morning
[11:57] <metbsd> installation can't even pass format
[12:02] <ioria> metbsd, boot the live session, so you can open the terminal and provide infos
[12:35] <dex1983> hi
[12:35] <dex1983> I have a "script"/command which sorts out and delete specific file extensions :"find . -iregex '.*\.\(jpg\|gif\|png\|jpeg\|rar\|txt\|sfv\)$' -delete && find . -type d -empty -delete" - How I can extend it that filename with *foo.123 and smaller than 1 GB will be deleted?
[12:36] <leftyfb> dex1983: the man page for find explains how to use -size
[12:37] <dex1983> ok thanks and how I can do it with *foo.123*
[12:37] <leftyfb> dex1983: also, the first result on google for "linux find files smaller than" is https://www.ostechnix.com/find-files-bigger-smaller-x-size-linux/
[12:37] <dex1983> that this would be deleted too?
[12:38] <dex1983> I only made it with file name extensions
[12:38] <dex1983> but with foo.123 it does noet work
[12:40] <dex1983> I have a "script"/command which sorts out and delete specific file extensions :"find . -iregex '.*\.\(jpg\|gif\|png\|jpeg\|rar\|txt\|sfv\|*foo.123\)$' -delete && find . -type d -empty -delete"
[12:40] <dex1983> like this sample
[12:41] <dex1983> but foo.123 will not be deleted :-(
[12:41] <leftyfb> dex1983: -name "*foo.123*"
[12:42] <dex1983> ah ok thanks I will try it
[12:43] <leftyfb> dex1983: you are better off asking in #bash
[12:44] <dex1983> oh ok thanks :-) for the channel hint
[14:25] <pgpfox> Hi, purchased a Satechi TYPE-C Multiport adapter with usb ports, network, usb-c to HDMI ports, everything works fine except HDMI. When it is plugged in through the adapter, my computer doesnt find the monitor. Anyone know if its possible to solve this or shall i return the adapter?
[14:28] <deadrom> hi
[14:30] <deadrom> strange question: I have an A/V receiver, Marantz NR1608, 7.2, spotify connect and all that jazz but has terrible bluetooth handling. I'd like to stream audio there from an ubuntu machine. anybody have a good idea? I thought of an external BT connector but would like to keep the device circus from overgrowing
[14:32] <ioria> pgpfox, no idea, but i read something about some BIOS settings to change
[14:34] <pgpfox> ioria hmm okey
[14:36] <nbusrone> I have a question , normally when you backup Home directory , which files must exclude ? all the hidden file ? I plan to backup .bash and some .config file but when I restore those hidden file , the ubuntu OS unable login .What is the reason it goes wrong ?
[14:37] <nbusrone> Is there some hidden files which . dots conflict and  which cannot be replace with same OS at home  ?
[14:42] <vlt> nbusrone: As far as I know, you don’t *have to* exclude any files.
[14:45] <nbusrone> vlt : i tried with some hidden files replacement , it does not let me login after replace such as .ICEauthority
[14:47] <nbusrone> vlt : I don't know how much more of . dots hidden file cannot be replace as I only found out one if it cannot login was due to .ICEauthority. I need to find out more so I can exclude them
[14:47] <annihilator> how unsecure would it be if i installed ubuntu on a computer set it up as a router and web/game server?
[14:51] <vlt> annihilator: I’d say not more unsecure than Debian, for example. Just don’t do anything stupid ;-)
[14:52] <annihilator> ....(me being idiot) i ment compared to using an off the shelf router and setting ubuntu strictly as web/game server
[14:54] <vlt> annihilator: Off the shelf *might* even be slightly more insecure (due to missing updates).
[14:56] <annihilator> atm i am using pfsense and using a tplink archer 5400x as wireless access and switch
[14:56] <annihilator> but im not wanting to use a vm of ubuntu to do hosting and rather not use my main computer to act as host either lol
[14:57] <annihilator> the fun part is if i use ubuntu as my router i am going to need to route 1 IP through a vpn
[15:01] <Aryan> Hi
[15:01] <Aryan> Hi, i want to check if package foo is installed or not in my bash script.
[15:01] <Aryan> any idea?
[15:11] <eth01> Hi. Is there an alternative to net plan? I’m using 18.04
[15:14] <adammm> hey guys, just done a nmap on my box, strange ports are open. yet its a fresh install from this afternoon, 20.04.. 548, 631, 8200, 9100. 9101, 9102, 9103, 20005.. so ummm wtf?
[15:17] <mesaboogie> adammm: check /etc/services to see what they are for.
[15:18] <adammm> yeah im just looking through it now
[15:18] <adammm> cant find any of these ports in there tho
[15:18] <adammm> afpovertcp      548/tcp                         # AFP over TCP
[15:19] <mesaboogie> adammm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
[15:19] <adammm> apple filing protocol..
[15:20] <vlt> adammm: Open 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1?
[15:20] <adammm> reason why my trawling, someone just popped onto a private ircd. told us to 'secure' the box.. wouldnt tell us what, where, he even opered up, and showed us part of the conf.. said it wasnt an ircd exploit but more so a system administrative issue..
[15:20] <adammm> mates box is running 16.04
[15:21] <adammm> vlad-k 127
[15:22] <adammm> eitherway, was curious why apple filing protocol etc is all active
[15:25] <ioria> adammm, maybe because netatalk is installed ?
[15:29] <adammm> ioria is netatalk even needed? i dont have apple crud ha ha
[15:29] <ioria> adammm, i really don't think it's needed
[15:32] <andi> Hello
[15:33] <andi> I'm trying to get my preseed setup running to install ubuntu machines automatically. However I still see the questions for the non-root user and the partitioning through the setup.
[15:33] <andi> This is how the configuration for partitioning and user creation looks like: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sXrbyHSrxc/
[15:34] <andi> Can somebody help me to figure out what's wrong or how to enable debugging on the setup to see which part of the debian installer is still not configured in the preseed config?
[15:34] <pizzaburger> Hi! Installing Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on an SSD. Getting an error saying that the bootloader cannot be installed at the specific location. It gives me a list of other locations to chose from. Which location should I go with?
[15:38] <curiosity> When I am enabling secure boot in uefi screen resolution drops to 1024x768. Nothing else changed. If I disable secure boot it goes back to 1920x1080. Anybody knows how to fix this?
[15:39] <ioria> curiosity, nvidia driver in use ?
[15:39] <curiosity> nope. no proprietary drivers.
[15:39] <curiosity> just the open source amd driver
[15:39] <curiosity> as far as I know
[15:40] <ioria> curiosity, check with lspci -nnk
[15:41] <adammm> ioria is there any easy way to drop ssh brute force attempts?
[15:41] <ioria> adammm, stop sshd
[15:42] <adammm> ioria appart from that
[15:42] <ioria> adammm, sy, mate not an ssh specialist; try #linux
[15:43] <curiosity> ioria, this is the output: https://pastebin.com/d6JF9GYP Line 75 says tjhe driver is "amdgpu".
[15:45] <ioria> adammm, nope... look carefully
[15:47] <adammm> ioria yeah difficult situation. a mates server, 13000km from me. ill just disable it for now. cheers
[15:47] <ioria> adammm, you want 'Kernel driver in use: amdgpu' not 'Kernel modules: amdgpu' ; i think has been unloaded
[15:48] <ioria> adammm, sorry
[15:48] <ioria> curiosity,  you want 'Kernel driver in use: amdgpu' not 'Kernel modules: amdgpu' ; i think has been unloaded
[15:48] <adammm> all good :)
[15:54] <curiosity> iora, may this problem be due to the lack of configuring secure boot in ubuntu? I am new to this "secure boot" stuff.
[16:04] <ioria> curiosity,  first check your kernel version then dmesg or journlactl -0
[16:04] <ioria> curiosity,  i mean 'journalctl -b -0'
[16:04] <curiosity> dmesg -T show me this: "[Sa Mai 30 17:17:53 2020] AMD IOMMUv2 driver by Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>
[16:04] <curiosity> [Sa Mai 30 17:17:53 2020] PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key
[16:04] <curiosity> [Sa Mai 30 17:17:53 2020] Lockdown: Loading of unsigned modules is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
[16:04] <curiosity> " maybe this is related?
[16:05] <ioria> sure
[16:05] <ioria> curiosity,  uname -r ?
[16:05] <curiosity> 4.15.0-101-generic
[16:07] <ioria> curiosity,  is this bare metal or a vm ?
[16:08] <curiosity> ioria, bare metal :)
[16:08] <ioria> curiosity,   cat /proc/cmdline
[16:08] <curiosity> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-101-generic root=UUID=cf229022-6f0b-4513-8c7e-686fc63e7216 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[16:11] <ioria> curiosity,  journalctl -b -0 | grep -i amdgpu
[16:12] <curiosity> iora, {}. No Output.
[16:13] <ioria> curiosity,  dmesg | grep -i amdgpu
[16:13] <nbusrone> I have a question , normally when you backup Home directory , which files must exclude ? all the hidden file ? I plan to backup .bash and some .config file but when I restore those hidden file , the ubuntu OS unable login .What is the reason it goes wrong ?
[16:13] <nbusrone> Is there some hidden files which . dots conflict and  which cannot be replace with same OS at home  ?
[16:14] <curiosity> ioria, again no output.
[16:16] <ioria> curiosity,  do yo uhave a ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
[16:17] <curiosity> ioria, yup.
[16:17] <ioria> curiosity,  can you paste it ?
[16:19] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/TY05nLWS
[16:20] <supastupid> What is that command to fix the Bluetooth again? I have restarted my PC and it seems to revert.
[16:21] <ioria> curiosity,  SB is disabled atm, right ?
[16:22] <ioria> supastupid, i told you it wasn't persistent
[16:22] <curiosity> Secure boot is enabled at this moment of time, at least in UEFI. I do not know if I need to tel ubuntu something about that :)
[16:24] <curiosity> ioria, maybe that log as been created when secure boot was disabled?
[16:25] <Aryan> Hi
[16:26] <Aryan> I've done sth terrible and now i lose my Grqphical environment
[16:26] <Aryan> I tried to install dwm and ...
[16:26] <Aryan> Can anybody please help me?
[16:26] <ioria> curiosity, if you use opensource amdgpu you should be ok; paste the entire 'journalctl -b -0'
[16:26] <Aryan> I dont like this situation
[16:32] <ioria> curiosity,  also   /var/log/gpu-manager.log  can be handy
[16:38] <curiosity> ioria, this one first: https://pastebin.com/mcpch4QA
[16:42] <coconut> Aryan, then you want to revert to the default window manager on installation of you device. I do not know how to do that though...
[16:42] <curiosity> ioria, 'journalctl -b -0 seems to big for pastebin. it has about 500000 lines :o
[16:43] <ioria> curiosity,  have you tried to install amdgpu-pto from amd ?
[16:43] <ioria> *pro
[16:44] <curiosity> there is one thing that keeps repeating. maybe this is of help: https://pastebin.com/igtStS8s
[16:45] <curiosity> this is an excerpt of journalctl -b -0
[16:45] <curiosity> virtualbox is installed on this box.
[16:45] <curiosity> but ubuntu runs on bare metal
[16:45] <curiosity> ioria, yeah. I am also wondering if that might fix it. I think I will try this.
[16:46] <supastupid> Hello, what was that command that fixed bluetooth again?
[16:48] <supastupid>  Specifically what was that article ioria mentioned?
[16:51] <curiosity> ioria, I will install with "./amdgpu-pro-install -y --opencl=pal,legacy" I wi,ll report back if this fixes the problem.
[16:51] <ioria> supastupid, https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/14/linux-gaming-tip-how-to-pair-your-xbox-one-s-and-switch-pro-controllers-via-bluetooth/#366060bc101e
[16:54] <ioria> curiosity, i was wondering if you 'already' have installed amdgpu-pto from amd
[16:54] <bytesafari> Does anyone have a suggestion for a GUI application to manage LDAP accounts?
[16:55] <curiosity> ioria, nope I have not :-) I had them installed in the past but they caused some probpem, so I eradicated them from my system. :D
[16:57] <curiosity> ioria, this is weird I am getting this "The amdgpu driver is already installed or was not uninstalled correctly.
[16:57] <curiosity> Please fully uninstall the driver before proceeding with installation
[16:57] <curiosity> You can try running the amdgpu-uninstall or amdgpu-pro-uninstall script
[16:57] <curiosity> present in /usr/bin to clean up the previous installation
[16:57] <curiosity> "
[16:59] <curiosity> ioria, amdgpu-pro-uninstall is not working correctly. https://pastebin.com/gUq1zvse
[16:59] <ioria> curiosity, told ya
[16:59] <curiosity> yeah it seems that there is some old garbage
[16:59] <ioria> yep
[17:00] <coconut> Anyone can help Aryan with reinstalling GDM ?
[17:01] <ioria> curiosity, export LC_ALL=C amdgpu-uninstall
[17:01] <filifunky> hey all, I updated to the latest ubuntu LTS and now my python script doesn't work.  I get an Import Error "ImportError: No module named MySQLdb"  I think I've tried everything I've seen online, anyone able to help me get my script working again?
[17:02] <bytesafari> filifunky: did you try doing a pip install to get the MySQLdb package?
[17:02] <filifunky> i did!  at least I believe I did
[17:02] <bytesafari> filifunky: is the script written in python2 or 3?
[17:03] <filifunky> 2 i believe, my version is 2.7.18rc1
[17:03] <filifunky> I don't believe I've touched 3
[17:04] <bytesafari> you might try doing an apt install python-mysqldb
[17:04] <curiosity> ioria, bash: export: `amdgpu-uninstall': not a valid identifier
[17:05] <filifunky> bytesafari: Package 'python-mysqldb' has no installation candidate
[17:06] <ioria> curiosity, export LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get -f install
[17:07] <filifunky> bytesafari:  If i try pip install mysql-python I get a lot of red text
[17:07] <curiosity> ioria, bash: export: `apt-get': not a valid identifier
[17:07] <curiosity> bash: export: `-f': not a valid identifier
[17:07] <filifunky> i will paste it
[17:07] <ioria> curiosity, export LC_ALL=C ; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:07] <bytesafari> filifunky: looks like I only see a python3 package in the ubuntu package search. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=mysqldb&searchon=names&suite=focal&section=all
[17:08] <filifunky> bytesafari: ahh you're right I get a message that says this:DEPRECATION: Python 2.7 reached the end of its life on January 1st, 2020. Please upgrade your Python as Python 2.7 is no longer maintained. pip 21.0 will drop support for Python 2.7 in January 2021. More details about Python 2 support in pip, can be found at https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/development/release-process/#python-2-support
[17:08] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/BkHwfq6Z
[17:08] <filifunky> so I have to go into python 3 i suppose, is that what you infer? bytesafari
[17:09] <bytesafari> filifunky: you may be able to install python2, but probably the best thing you could do is try to port your script to python3
[17:09] <bytesafari> https://linuxconfig.org/install-python-2-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[17:10] <ioria> curiosity, sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[17:11] <filifunky> bytesafari oh thanks for that link, looks like I just have to decide which one makes sense for me
[17:12] <bytesafari> filifunky: Python 2.7 is depreciated, so porting your script is probably the best long-term solution. That solution is just a stop-gap
[17:12] <Kurogane> What is equivalent python-virtualenv for ubuntu 20.04?
[17:12] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/L5AjviJm
[17:12] <ioria> curiosity, sudo kill -9 7110
[17:12] <filifunky> bytesafari: what does depreciated mean?  loss of functionality?
[17:13] <curiosity> ioria, no output. Which means it killed the process I hope :)
[17:13] <ioria> curiosity, export LC_ALL=C ; sudo apt-get -f install
[17:13] <bytesafari> filifunky: It means that python 2.7 is no longer under active development, so there is no support for python 2.7 anymore. The development of python has continued to python 3.x
[17:14] <bytesafari> filifunky: It's likely that python2 will be removed from the software repositories, possibly sooner rather than later
[17:14] <curiosity> ioria, this time it worked. https://pastebin.com/4WUjDjpx
[17:14] <filifunky> bytesafari: yikes, ok
[17:15] <ioria> curiosity,  sudo apt autoremove --purge
[17:15] <filifunky> bytesafari: does this look like a good guide to work from?  https://docs.python.org/3/howto/pyporting.html
[17:17] <curiosity> ioria, It worked. https://pastebin.com/hnaKdk6z
[17:18] <ioria> curiosity,  dpkg -l | grep amdgpu
[17:18] <bytesafari> filifunky: It's from the official python documentation, so it's a good place to start. You will likely have to go back through your code and change some things so that you're compatible with 3.x. Python 2.7 is on life-support, so you have some time, but I wouldn't expect python 2.7 code to last for very much longer
[17:19] <filifunky> great thanks bytesafari, will dig in
[17:19] <bytesafari> filifunky: happy to help :)
[17:19] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/3RdkCwJb
[17:20] <ioria> curiosity,  purge amdgpu-pro-pin
[17:22] <curiosity> ioria, has beend purged. https://pastebin.com/MYwXEfvd
[17:23] <ningu> I was reading this last night, pointed to me by Amaranth: https://outflux.net/blog/archives/2018/04/19/uefi-booting-and-raid1/
[17:23] <ningu> I'm curious, how exactly does this mean it will prefer one raid1 volume over the other?
[17:24] <ningu> or does it just mean, if there is a difference between the raid1 volumes in the array, the resync will fail?
[17:24] <Amaranth> I believe it means the UEFI doesn't actually understand raid so it'll only write to one disk, if it does any writes during boot
[17:24] <Amaranth> So then the raid config is set up to prefer that one when doing a resync so you don't delete what the UEFI just wrote
[17:24] <ningu> Amaranth: that much is fairly clear, yes
[17:25] <ningu> Amaranth: that's kind of what it says but I don't see how the raid config chooses one over the other. it just forces resync on each boot with the systemd service
[17:25] <ningu> which will verify they're in sync, yes ... but what if they aren't?
[17:25] <ningu> I guess this is a general raid/md question
[17:26] <ioria> curiosity,  install apt-forktracer
[17:26] <curiosity> ioria,  ah I see. "export LC_ALL=C" It is doing what I was thinking about.
[17:26] <ioria> yep
[17:26] <Amaranth> Yeah I guess I thought the bit I skipped over with the systemd unit was doing that but it doesn't seem to be
[17:27] <Amaranth> It's just telling it to resync the efi partition then mount it, nothing about how to resync
[17:27] <ningu> I'm trying to find better docs on resync
[17:27] <ningu> and what happens if the data doesn't match
[17:27] <curiosity> ioria, forktracer is installed.
[17:28] <ioria> curiosity,  run it
[17:30] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/wFEnv1d5
[17:30] <Amaranth> ningu: I can't see anything documented about the resync algorithm, if I had to guess I'd say for RAID1 since you don't have parity bits it takes whatever one the filesystem thinks is newer
[17:30] <Amaranth> Don't know how that'd handle deletes but I guess the answer is probably that it wouldn't
[17:31] <ioria> curiosity,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:31] <ningu> Amaranth: yeah fair enough. it would be a lot easier to determine if you had more than 2 disks on RAID1 since you could go with majority
[17:31] <ningu> well... maybe not actually. in this efi example, you'd want to go with the minority actually
[17:32] <Amaranth> Yeah, guessing it wouldn't do what you want with more than 2 drives or with mode 5
[17:32] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/txpY7vtz
[17:33] <Amaranth> > If the array wasn't currently running (e.g., if this were a rebuild on assemble from an unclean shutdown), then the decision on what to copy is made using the update count fields stored in the superblock.
[17:34] <Amaranth> That's not very useful here since the EFI also won't modify the mdadm superblock though, hmm
[17:34] <ningu> Amaranth: ok, but in this case it would have been a clean shutdown as far as mdadm knows. yeah
[17:34] <ningu> by the way I assume I should grub-install on the raid1 like that post says
[17:34] <ningu> so that either disk can boot (which is more or less the point)
[17:35] <Amaranth> Yeah I dunno how it decides, I suppose if your resync deletes the stuff your UEFI writes you might lose some boot configuration
[17:35] <ioria> curiosity,  you probably want to remove that amdgpu-pro source from /etc/sources.list.d (probably)
[17:36] <ningu> Amaranth: maybe so, yeah. what would it possibly write there, anyway?
[17:36] <ningu> the BIOS settings are stored in CMOS so ...
[17:38] <curiosity> ioria, i removed it.
[17:38] <Amaranth> ningu: I have no idea, I don't think it's something they all do
[17:38] <Amaranth> UEFI is... not great code
[17:39] <Amaranth> So some board might not have or realize it can use NVRAM and write out all custom config changes to the ESP
[17:39] <ioria> curiosity,  sudo apt install --reinstall xorg xserver-xorg  xserver-xorg-video-all
[17:39] <ningu> Amaranth: yeah who knows :)
[17:40] <Amaranth> Some might store what boot device was picked last (even though obviously the answer is this one since otherwise it wouldn't look at that partition at all)
[17:40] <Amaranth> They do some goofy things sometimes
[17:41] <ningu> Amaranth: btw, you don't happen to know if there are good docs on how grub.cfg is generated in current ubuntu?
[17:41] <ningu> I mean beyond /etc/default/grub. how does it generate the root device instructions for example?
[17:42] <curiosity> ioria, worked fine. https://pastebin.com/gvG6dMtG
[17:42] <ningu> it seems that /etc/grub.d stuff is not really meant to be edited. I can delve into it further but it's a bit intricate
[17:42] <ioria> curiosity,  dpkg -l | grep -i mesa
[17:43] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/M5BVyvGR
[17:43] <Amaranth> ningu: I believe it's https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/grub-mkconfig.8.html
[17:43] <Amaranth> Beyond that I don't know
[17:43] <ningu> oh ok
[17:44] <Amaranth> Oh of course it's a FSF tool so the man page is useless
[17:44] <ningu> yeah that looks right, although it's an info doc rather than manpage :)
[17:44] <ningu> haha yeah
[17:44] <Amaranth> And since it's the FSF and this is a Debian-based distro the info doc is probably in non-free/restricted :D
[17:44] <ioria> curiosity,  you can try a reboot; may i ask you why you don't use the newer kernel and xorg (HWE) with that card ?
[17:45] <ningu> so actually it looks like what I really want to know is something else... hrm
[17:45] <ningu> I think this is an mdadm issue and I need to reboot to live server iso to fix it
[17:46] <ningu> the superblock has a name for the array I don't want and it's creating a /dev/md entry for it under that name
[17:46] <ningu> but I can't stop mdadm on the root device
[17:46] <ningu> I'll give it a try with the reboot
[17:47] <ningu> the kees cook blog post was really helpful though
[17:47] <ningu> it seems a little risky... like, couldn't the md superblock at the end of the disk be overwritten accidentally by the UEFI stuff?
[17:47] <curiosity> ioria, of course you can ask :) maybe um because I am not conscious of that possibility :) If reboot does not fix the problem I can try this. I will reboot and will report.
[17:47] <ningu> I guess the resync would take care of that
[17:48] <ioria> curiosity,  ok, good
[17:48] <Amaranth> It does look like /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/ for more complex changes is still the way to go for that, btw
[17:50] <akik> ningu: you can put complete boot entries in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[17:50] <ningu> akik: oh cool, thanks
[17:51] <curiosity> ioria, did not fix the problem unfortunately. So, first thing to try is a new kernel? :)
[17:52] <ioria> curiosity,  cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log
[17:53] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/FZxs27Yn
[17:54] <ioria> curiosity,  lsmod
[17:55] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/NJT1D5jY
[18:00] <ioria> curiosity,  did you unistall amdgpu-pro ?
[18:03] <curiosity> ioria, I think I did not. There was some error while trying that. I tried it again now. It worked now it seems.
[18:03] <ioria> curiosity,  can we see the output ?
[18:05] <ioria> curiosity,  cp / paste on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:07] <curiosity> ioria, of course. I just forgot to set the the export c thing. my fault. https://pastebin.com/9F9XQYQA
[18:07] <ioria> curiosity,  ok, never mind. reboot again
[18:09] <curiosity> curiosity, I'll be back! (Arnold Schwarzenegger) :D
[18:11] <curiosity> I just talked to myself :D
[18:11] <curiosity> ioria, I rebooted. Nothing changed.
[18:12] <ningu> Amaranth: hrm... I rebooted to server iso and am trying to do mdadm --stop but it's saying it can't get exclusive access
[18:12] <ningu> but nothing really seems to be using the device
[18:12] <ioria> curiosity,  cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log
[18:13] <Amaranth> ningu: Does lsof find anything?
[18:13] <ningu> trying now
[18:13] <curiosity> ioria, https://pastebin.com/U0g40aqZ
[18:14] <ioria> curiosity,  and dmesg | grep -i amdgpu   still blank ?
[18:14] <ningu> Amaranth: it could be multipathd?
[18:14] <Amaranth> Also apparently if you use LVM on top of mdadm it can cause problems sometimes and you have to manually remove the volume(?), whatever that means :D
[18:15] <Amaranth> I'm way out of my depth here, I'm just googling superuser posts and man pages
[18:15] <ningu> Amaranth: indeed I am using lvm but none of that seems to work
[18:15] <ningu> I deactivated the volumes but they still show up in "dmsetup ls"
[18:15] <curiosity> ioria, yes. Should it be non-blank? I am wondering if it is worth a try to install ubuntu 20.04 ?
[18:16] <Amaranth> ningu: Do you have swap enabled on your array? The live ISO might have decided to make use of it
[18:16] <ningu> ooh hmm
[18:16] <ningu> interesting question
[18:16] <Amaranth> swapoff /dev/md<whatever your swap partition is>
[18:16] <ioria> curiosity,  it's the ROCm stack probably
[18:17] <ningu> Amaranth: nothing in /proc/swaps
[18:18] <ningu> I don't really understand why "dmsetup remove_all" does nothing
[18:19] <ioria> curiosity,  but i have no experience with that
[18:20] <curiosity> ioria, thanks for your help so far. I appreciate that. I think i will try ubuntu 20.04. I have it on a boot able uefi stick. I think it is worth a try.
[18:21] <ioria> curiosity,  ok
[18:33] <pyzozord> hey is there kyeboard shortcut for emoji? Like on mac there is ctrl+cmd+space
[19:01] <filifunky> Hi I have the new ubuntu LTS and now a python script I have doesn't work.  I've upgraded to python 3 and that has gotten me someplace but now I'm trying to install pymysql by using pip install pymysql.  This is what I get:  https://pastebin.com/m8QtFZuH
[19:02] <ningu> filifunky: use pip3
[19:02] <filifunky> ningu, ok trying that out!
[19:02] <filifunky> ningu, works! thanks
[19:34] <kreyren> how da hug do i get busybox on ubuntu
[19:35] <kreyren> ,f /usr/bin/busybox
[19:35] <kreyren> meh~
[19:35] <kreyren> nwm i forgot apt-get update
[19:35]  * kreyren vanishes
[19:48] <zmagii> Why is it that on Ubuntu you have to run "sudo ..." for commands that on many other OSs don't require sudo?
[19:49] <zmagii> The next question after that is what can you do to try to minimise running sudo generally?
[19:51] <zutat> i recall only needing it during installation and initial configuration (home desktop)
[19:55] <pyzozord> hey anyone can help me, how can I make emoij on ubuntu? Is there a keyboard shortcut?
[20:03] <OnkelTem> Hi folks
[20:04] <OnkelTem> What is the proper place to autostart a script which should run before PulseAudio on Kubuntu?
[20:04] <OnkelTem> I want to run jack_control start
[20:08] <OnkelTem> Oh, I feel like the best way would be creating a systemd profile for that
[20:18] <docmur> Has anyone been able to get music to transfer to iPhone running iOS 13 from Ubuntu 18+?
[20:35] <Intelo> I am confused how to install a font like this? https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts/tree/master/patched-fonts/Go-Mono
[20:37] <oerheks> Intelo, see the wiki about fonts?
[20:37] <oerheks> sure you can find it on the wwww
[20:39] <Intelo> oerheks: I am doing this for the following vim nerdtree plugin, can I just apt-install some font instead? https://github.com/ryanoasis/vim-devicons
[20:40] <Intelo> oerheks: won't fonts-font-awesome work?
[20:41] <LearnAllTheTime> Hi, does anyone know how I can install Ubuntu Server headlessly (Y)? I'm thinking I just need to find a way to enable SSH from boot (X) via a custom ISO
[20:45] <DiscoDynamite> a silly question, how we run application installed via snap ? ( just installed vs code, no shortcut etc created )
[20:47] <mesaboogie> DiscoDynamite: snap list ( to find the name of the app to run ) || snap run YourApp
[20:55] <DiscoDynamite> mesaboogie, thanks.
[20:58] <DiscoDynamite> it worked. does that mean it the way to launch every app installed via snap  ?
[20:58] <mesaboogie> no
[20:58] <mesaboogie> DiscoDynamite: depending on the snap author whether or not you will have a desktop shortcut item.
[21:01] <DiscoDynamite> got you
[21:01] <skyliner_369> how do I get gegl to upgrade to the latest version?
[21:04] <skyliner_369> more accurately, how do I force drop broken packages?
[21:04] <ningu> is it possible to boot the ubuntu live iso in single user mode?
[21:10] <skyliner_369> whatever happened to dragging a window to the top of a screen to fullscreen it?
[21:10] <optonox> Hi,  my laptop's fingerprint scanner does not have Linux drivers.  I am wondering where I should post about this.  With the laptop manufacturer (Dell). With Ubuntu developers somewhere.  With the fingerprint reader manufacturer - where?
[21:15] <skyliner_369> Probably with the reader manufacturer. I'd say that the driver could be reverse engineered and remade for debian, but that could get someone in legal trouble... so... meh?
[21:15] <Intelo> oerheks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q6Y8fFj9vJ/
[21:16] <optonox> skyliner_369 yeah that makes sense
[21:16] <Intelo> I installed fonts but does not appears in console in vim's NerdTree. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q6Y8fFj9vJ/ trying to use https://github.com/ryanoasis/vim-devicons
[21:20] <Squarism> Is it worth upgrading to 20.04 from 18.04?
[21:20] <ningu> there are always improvements. whether it's worth it kind of depends on your needs
[21:21] <akem_> If you already have everything you need 100% functionnal maybe not.
[21:21] <akem_> Cause some stuff could break ofc.
[21:22] <skyliner_369> I'd say yeah, Squarism  but I'd suggest you do it through the software updater when you have some time you won't be using the computer much.
[21:22] <kreyren> How do i get wx-config on ubuntu Focal assuming that it wx-common doesn't provide it? https://ubuntu.pkgs.org/20.04/ubuntu-universe-amd64/wx-common_3.0.4+dfsg-15build1_amd64.deb.html
[21:22] <Squarism> skyliner_369, takes a while?
[21:23] <ningu> Squarism: depends a lot on your internet connection speed and maybe speed of your machine too
[21:23] <ningu> but generally speaking no
[21:23] <Squarism> I have blazing fiber so that wont be a problem
[21:23] <kreyren> heeeeeelppppppppp
[21:23] <ningu> 30 min or so maybe, could be less, could be more
[21:24] <ningu> if your connection is fast, most of the time will be on the install itself rather than download
[21:24] <skyliner_369> yeah, and while you can keep doing what you're doing, after a while you can't open new programs, only have what's already running doing anything on the PC. EG you can't open a game. but you can keep browsing the web if firefox is open. 30 minutes on an SSD... couple hours on a HDD
[21:24] <ningu> oh yeah forgot about HDDs heh :)
[21:24] <skyliner_369> Squarism
[21:25] <Squarism> okok
[21:25] <ningu> I try to avoid HDDs whenever I can these days -- fortunately I don't have huge storage needs
[21:25] <optonox> Does anybody know where to go for help with Linux audio.  I want to help with documentation....I have been waiting for an answer to this question: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231822/how-to-access-audio-sources-like-internal-microphone-in-jack-or-sound-settings for a while.
[21:25] <ningu> good SSDs have gotten so much cheaper
[21:25] <Squarism> I have SSD
[21:26] <skyliner_369> should be rather quick then. downloads were blazing for me even on my HDD
[21:26] <ningu> yeah, the downloads for me usually take just a minute or so
[21:26] <akem_> kreyren, You may have to build it from source, since no package provides it apparently.
[21:27] <ningu> but it takes a while to unpack and configure everything
[21:27] <skyliner_369> even slower with seeking
[21:27] <kreyren> akem, AHHHHH
[21:27] <ningu> in my experience ubuntu is quite good about not breaking stuff on upgrades, especially between LTS
[21:27] <ningu> I've only had occasional very minor things
[21:27] <skyliner_369> I wonder if there'
[21:28] <ningu> of course if there's a big change like init to systemd or whatever, you'll notice if that impacts anything you care about
[21:28] <ningu> 20.04 mostly eliminates python2
[21:28] <skyliner_369> s a utility to migrate an installation of Ubuntu from my HDD to a new SSD for instance
[21:29] <ningu> skyliner_369: shouldn't be that hard if you just duplicate the file system exactly, then you just need to have grub installed and know how to boot
[21:29] <ningu> I am guessing here but seems like it should work
[21:30] <ningu> there are probably instructions for doing that with grub
[21:30] <skyliner_369> could clone the drive, yeah, but I'm running on massive-ass HDD... If I do get a nice 960G SSD then it shouldn't be an issue.
[21:31] <ningu> 960G SSD is less than $100 these days I think
[21:31] <ningu> ok, maybe not quite
[21:32] <ningu> yeah, 660p is $118 on newegg
[21:32] <skyliner_369> depends on the market and memory bubble. partly why I'm waiting to fill in the rest of my RAM. my RAM is only half-full and 64 gig but it'd be nice to fill the other 4 slots and have 128 gig
[21:32] <ningu> if you are ok with SATA may be less (but... why? haha)
[21:33] <ningu> ah, are memory prices up right now?
[21:33] <skyliner_369> the memory prices are arbitrary.
[21:33] <ningu> what does that mean?
[21:34] <akem> kreyren, It's maybe not a standard path in fact, i'm maybe wrong, did you try with package libwxgtk3.0-dev?
[21:35] <kreyren> akem, E: Package 'libwxgtk3.0-dev' has no installation candidate
[21:35] <kreyren> akem, libwxgtk3.0-dev is required on debian afaik
[21:35] <akem> kreyren, Try "apt-get update"?
[21:35] <kreyren> akem, done
[21:35] <kreyren> libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-dev mby?
[21:37] <akem> kreyren, Hm...better try to look why you cannot install 'libwxgtk3.0-dev' :X
[21:38] <kreyren> akem, based on available info, because ubuntu feels like being unique by renaming packages again..  Solved by installing libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-dev thank you!
[21:39] <akem> kreyren, Glad you got it working. Np.
[22:52] <alschaapman> Can someone help me figure out a build error?
[22:53] <skyliner_369> paste the error message?
[22:53] <alschaapman> This is what I'm trying to build: https://github.com/brydling/dracut-crypt-ssh/tree/ubuntu-support
[22:53] <alschaapman> This is the error: `crypttab.c:(.text+0x5c4): undefined reference to `blkid_evaluate_tag'`
[22:54] <alschaapman> It builds fine with Arch, but not Ubuntu
[22:59] <snowhawk> hello
[23:01] <oerheks> alschaapman, file a bug?  https://github.com/dracut-crypt-ssh/dracut-crypt-ssh/issues
[23:02] <alschaapman> oerheks: There's already a pull request open
[23:05] <oerheks> add yourself to it? their forum starts with maintainers wanted..
[23:06] <alschaapman> I need to get this working.
[23:07] <alschaapman> I gather from the error message that make can't find the blkid_evaluate_tag function, but everything in /usr/include/blkid/blkid.h looks as it should.
[23:07] <matsaman> snowhawk: hi
[23:23] <CuChulaind> Hello. I have downloaded a /deb package, run sudo dpkg -i <pkg.deb> then sudo apt install ./<pkg> the response is that the package is installed, however when I try to run the program it isn't found
[23:24] <matsaman> CuChulaind: what package? What program?
[23:25] <CuChulaind> @matsaman, graylog. apt list -installed shows: graylog-3.3-repository/now 1-1 all [installed,local]
[23:27] <akem> Try: locate graylog
[23:28] <leftyfb> CuChulaind: remove the package and install it from snap: sudo snap install graylog
[23:29] <CuChulaind> akem, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/graylog.list
[23:30] <CuChulaind> leftyfb, I have not had good luck with snap, tried using docker installed as snap during ubuntu install and it didn't work correctly
[23:30] <leftyfb> CuChulaind: graylog is a service. But it's also not available or supported as an apt package in ubuntu. Version 2.3.1-1 is available as a snap
[23:30] <CuChulaind> leftyfb, this isn't one found in the repos but one that I downloaded, will snap still install it>
[23:31] <leftyfb> CuChulaind: yes, it is available as a snap package
[23:31] <CuChulaind> leftyfb, but version 2.3 you said, and the latest is 3.3
[23:31] <leftyfb> CuChulaind: then you'll have to contact graylog for support
[23:32] <snowhawk> anyone used OpenEMU?
[23:33] <leftyfb> snowhawk: please contact https://openemu.org for support. Or feel free to chat about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:36] <snowhawk> hmm
[23:39] <snowhawk> i left a note on github
[23:41] <snowhawk> it wont let me join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:42] <snowhawk> im already identified
[23:44] <housecat> snowhawk: what message do you get when you do /join #ubuntu-offtopic?
[23:49] <Steven_M> Hi all. Is there a better way of installing Private Internet Access VPN on Ubuntu than using the pia-linux-2.1-04977.run script from their website (eg from a PPA or something)? The reason I don't like using their script is that they don't provide a gpg signed checksum file for the script, at least all packages from a repo are signed.
[23:49] <CuChulaind> The full error message when doing the apt-update is: https://packages.graylog2.org/repo/debian stable Release
[23:49] <CuChulaind>   Certificate verification failed: The certificate is NOT trusted. The certificate chain uses expired certificate.  Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification. [IP: 18.214.174.224 443]
[23:50] <CuChulaind> what must I do to get the handshake to work?