[00:05] <pi0> there there an equvalent to process explorer for ubuntu
[00:05] <pi0> i know that app is specific for windows, however what is a good application that will monitor background processes
[00:08] <matsaman> pi0: I think the majority for GNU/Linux are not GUI
[00:08] <Steven_M> anyone?
[00:08] <matsaman> pi0: top, htop, etc.
[00:08] <matsaman> Steven_M: ?
[00:08] <Steven_M> Hi all. Is there a better way of installing Private Internet Access VPN on Ubuntu than using the pia-linux-2.1-04977.run script from their website (eg from a PPA or something)? The reason I don't like using their script is that they don't provide a gpg signed checksum file for the script, at least all packages from a repo are signed.
[00:11] <matsaman> Steven_M: I'm guessing not, but you can probably find an alternative
[00:12] <Steven_M> matsaman: okay, thanks anyway. :-)
[00:12] <matsaman> Steven_M: are you just trying to dissociate your physical location from your network?
[00:13] <Steven_M> Mathisen: yep, and hide my IP
[00:13] <Steven_M> opps
[00:14] <Steven_M> matsaman: yep, and hide my IP
[00:14] <matsaman> I mean that is how you hide your IP, by using someone else's
[00:14] <matsaman> although you'll still be connected to some local networking hardware
[00:15] <pi0> going to check those out
[00:15] <pi0> brb
[00:36] <adamantium> Hi, I'm trying to setup mysql on an ubuntu 18.04 server, i've installed mariadb-server mariadb-client, but running mysql_secure_installation just asks me for a password for user root, and when I enter my root password it just returns, Error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) ... What should I do?
[00:37] <adamantium> Sorry, not mariadb-server mariadb-client, but mysqldb-server and mysqldb-client are the two that I actually have installed. I would use mariadb but my work wants me to use mysql.
[00:41] <leftyfb> adamantium: root password auth has been disabled in mysql for a while now. Just login locally and you'll be fine
[00:47] <codepy69> hello
[00:47] <adamantium> leftyfb I wish that were the case, I tried executing mysql_secure_installation and it still asks me the root password, and the same error results.
[00:47] <adamantium> I tried also (as a regular user) I mean.
[00:48] <leftyfb> adamantium: don't execute mysql_secure_installation, you don't need it
[00:48] <adamantium> I can't start the service then either.
[00:48] <leftyfb> adamantium: what error do you get when you try to start it?
[00:49] <adamantium> https://termbin.com/gqs6
[00:51] <leftyfb> adamantium: how did you install mysql exactly?
[00:51] <adamantium> OK I got it now...
[00:51] <adamantium> I did apt install mysql-server
[00:52] <adamantium> The errors were 1. I had to create mkdir /var/lib/mysql 2. I had to run mysqld --initialize 3. I had to create mkdir /var/lib/mysql-files
[00:53] <leftyfb> you shouldn't have to do any of that. Something didn't install correctly to begin with
[00:53] <adamantium> Guides online were saying to try running that mysql_secure_ installation script but ok
[00:53] <adamantium> I tried purging and installing again mysql-server many times
[00:53] <leftyfb> ah, that's why
[00:59] <adamantium> Thanks
[01:05] <skyliner_369> I'm trying to make a regular zip file of something but the zip archive is literally bigger than the contents
[01:10] <rfm> skyliner_369, usual way that happens is the data is already compressed somehow (like it's audio or video) so zip gets no further compression and there's always some overhead to the archive.
[01:11] <oerheks> seen that, archive with zips bigger than the content
[01:11] <oerheks> or videofiles, with compression
[01:11] <oerheks> the difference is the data added to easy recover the archive.
[01:18] <rfm> ah, the other common thing that makes file uncompressible is encryption...
[01:21] <skyliner_369> well I was thinking that inter-file compression would help shrink it even a little bit... heck doesn't zip do inter-file compression? I think it does... was an avenue of a zip attack if I wasn't mistaken...
[01:38] <InnovAnon-Inc> maybe it does. I haven't made extensive use of zip
[01:44] <skyliner_369> I try to stick to zip because everybody and their grandma has the utilities to open a zip file
[01:52] <Conjecture_> Is the newest LTS not going to have an accompanying non-LTS released with it?
[01:59] <oerheks> Conjecture_, yes, in 6 months
[01:59] <oerheks> !yy.mm
[01:59] <Conjecture_> Ah, however, it would appear that 19.10 isn't present with most flavors
[02:00] <oerheks> maybe there is a lack of i386 images, true
[02:00] <jsoft> Can someone suggest some software to make posters? Ive got to sort of add a few images, perhaps some sort of weird blending/fading between the images, a bit of text, etc
[02:02] <skyliner_369> GIMP is a good pixel-based image editor. if you're looking for something more for layout, try LibreOffice Draw.
[02:02] <Conjecture_> Thanks oerheks.
[02:02] <oerheks> vector scaling graphics software comes in mind, inkscape of dia ? https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-vector-graphics-software-for-linux/
[02:03] <westor> How can i get the full path of my mail transfer agent ?
[02:03] <skyliner_369> All three of them can work together depending on what you're planning to make.
[02:03] <skyliner_369> jsoft
[02:04] <jsoft> skyliner_369, thanks
[03:01] <tonyt> !keep tonyt
[03:01] <tonyt> oops wrong channel
[04:06] <black_13> how do i address the following problem "ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-5.6.13-050613-generic is not s"
[04:07] <black_13> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pwSGwvpc6j/
[04:21] <kenperkins> so I got a new gpu, and the framerate in my favorite game hasn't changed, trying to figure out if I'm limited somewhere else
[04:23] <Casper26> Anyone help with grub custimizer not saving it just closes?
[06:34] <Kryspin> hello All ;)
[06:34] <Kryspin> I try install terminology like is described here: https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/install-the-enlightenment-desktop-environment/
[06:34] <luna_> hi
[06:35] <Kryspin> Can some one try help me? Maybe in 2020 is some another way to install terminology.
[06:36] <Kryspin> I wish to do what Mikeserv described here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/160212/watch-youtube-videos-in-terminal
[06:38] <Kryspin> any/from 1238 users?
[06:53] <Kryspin> Hello. Some one of You install a terminology on Windows Subsystem for Linux Distributions:
[06:56] <guiverc> Kryspin, terminology is available as a package; https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=terminology ; but most of us don't use WSL I suspect
[06:57] <Kryspin> yeah, I will reinstall Win10 in next week, I try install then subsystem ubuntu on docker under win10, then it should be work ;)
[06:58] <Kryspin> WSL2^
[06:58] <guiverc> luna_, if you have a Ubuntu Support question, just ask it (try to keep to a single line, and be patient waiting for replies; people reply when they can)
[06:59] <luna_> guiverc: i don't
[06:59] <Kryspin> guiverc can you tell me how I should run this packages ? ;/ sry I am quite new in linux area
[06:59] <guiverc> okay, sorry luna_ I now looked further up & see why you responded...
[07:01] <guiverc> you generally insall packages; `sudo apt install` ; the package script will (if written to do so) add it to menus etc but up to packager) install and you just run as you feel is appropriate (menu, command, have something else call it etc)
[07:02] <Kryspin> guiverc I dont have x11 on subsystem ;/ Can I also install it ?
[07:02] <Kryspin> try it^
[07:02] <guiverc> (if a package contains a font, there'll be nothing to install..  you use it from within other programs, though font cache may require refresh; but post-installation script may do that for you)
[07:04] <Kryspin> guivercsudo apt install xential
[07:04] <guiverc> Kryspin, I don't know much about, but opening a link from what I provided I don't see X11 or Wayland requirement, however it maybe requirement for another required package it did list... sorry I don't know
[07:05] <Kryspin> Ok ok we will see, I research at this moment unable to locate package xential
[07:36] <Sinaloco> hello!
[07:38] <Kryspin> hi
[07:48] <Sinaloco> hello Kryspin
[07:49] <Kryspin> hello Sinaloco
[08:04] <Guest_96> hey I need a bit of help with my Ubuntu installation process
[08:04] <Guest_96> Am I in the right place?
[08:05] <akem> Yes, ask your question.
[08:06] <Guest_96> alright, so I installed everything and when I reboot and try to boot through my bios, the drive I installed to will not show up
[08:07] <akem> Where did you install it?
[08:07] <Guest_96> to a 160gb hdd
[08:07] <Guest_96> from a usb
[08:07] <akem> First HDD/SDD? the main one? is it a laptop or desktop?
[08:08] <Guest_96> it is a desktop with windows running of an ssd
[08:08] <Guest_96> My other hdd dissapeared as well from the bios
[08:08] <Guest_96> after the installation
[08:08] <Guest_96> just the ssd remains
[08:08] <akem> Do you see grub menu when you boot?
[08:09] <akem> Or does it boot windows directly?
[08:09] <Guest_96> it boots to windows directly if I don't press f2
[08:10] <Guest_96> I am really stumped here
[08:11] <akem> Ok, check to see if in your bios you can define boot order and boot on the HDD instead of the SSD. If it does not work, you'll have to reinstall grub i think, so that when booting you have choice to boot either Windows on the SSD or Linux on the HDD.
[08:11] <Guest_96> I believe there was an error on my second try at installation saying that the bootloader could not be installed on the hdd for my ubuntu
[08:11] <Guest_96> my bios was working until I installed ubuntu
[08:12] <Guest_96> But, I cannot make a boot order because only the ssd is showing on the bios
[08:12] <Guest_96> I have checked and all drives are showing in windows though
[08:12] <akem> Yeah, you can reinstall grub from a Live USB, there is a utility called bootrepair, that should detect your Windows and Linux and reinstall the bootloader.
[08:13] <Guest_96> and by grub you mean bios, sorry
[08:13] <Guest_96> idk
[08:13] <akem> Guest_96, No, grub is the linux utility that is used to boot, just after the BIOS initialize.
[08:14] <akem> It will allow you to choose Windows or Linux.
[08:14] <akem> At boot stage.
[08:14] <Guest_96> alright so where do I install this?
[08:15] <akem> Guest_96, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair (See the 2nd option)
[08:15] <Guest_96> ok
[08:15] <akem> Come back if it does not work.
[08:15] <akem> You may have to look in advanced options.
[08:16] <Guest_96> I am confused
[08:16] <Guest_96> I don't have acess to ubuntu
[08:16] <Guest_96> so how do I install this?
[08:17] <akem> Guest_96, See "2nd option" on the link i pasted, you need to boot from a live USB Ubuntu, you choose "try Ubuntu" at boot and it will start a live session from your USB stick.
[08:17] <Guest_96> ok
[08:17] <akem> Guest_96, If you are under Windows, you need to download Ubuntu ISO and burn it to a USB stick with a tool like Rufus.
[08:17] <Guest_96> I'll try that thanks
[08:18] <Guest_96> I'll be back if it doesn't work
[08:18] <Guest_96> thanks for the help
[08:18] <akem> Ok.
[08:18] <akem> Np.
[08:33] <Guest_96> hey I'm back
[08:33] <Guest_96> it said I needed permissions
[08:33] <u0_a58> So you found out :D
[08:34] <Guest_96> I'm goin to sleep for today tho
[08:34] <Guest_96> its 4am
[08:34] <Guest_96> (y)
[08:34] <Guest_96> thanks for the help though
[08:49] <JoeBiden420> Forgot al the irc market adresses kms.
[08:50] <JoeBiden420> If anyone can remind me, I'll be greatfull.
[10:58] <eliyahutbr> higha guys
[10:59] <eliyahutbr> running 20.4 and I need to enlarge my swap file. I found this, https://bogdancornianu.com/change-swap-size-in-ubuntu/ but am wary of running around "sudoing" stuff I don't understand.
[10:59] <eliyahutbr> this should work for 20.4, no?
[11:02] <ThinkT510> eliyahutbr: yes, that will still work in 20.04. you just need to make sure you have enough space on the disk for enlarging your swapfile
[11:03] <ThinkT510> eliyahutbr: ideally swap should only be used as a last resort when you run out of RAM
[11:05] <ThinkT510> eliyahutbr: one of the typical reasons for having a large swap partition or swap file is to be able to hibernate. when one hibernates everything in RAM needs to be loaded into swap, hence the need for swap to be at least as big as the RAM
[11:36] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:37] <luna_> Morning
[12:08] <bhola> hi.
[12:11] <bhola> I am looking for some help regarding bash. I am logged in with my user on ubuntu and I want to create a child bash session with a completely different environment variables. I don't want my parent bash sessions variables leak into this child session. When I am done and exit back to parent session I should be back to my original session discarding all variables of child session.
[12:12] <bhola> If it needs reading please point me to the site. Thx.
[12:22] <EriC^^> bhola: i think that's the default behavior of bash
[12:22] <EriC^^> bhola: unless you use 'export variable=something' it won't go to the child session, and whatever you do in the child session will always disappear when you return to the parent one
[12:24] <bhola> EriC^^: there are exported variables in parent session. So whatever is exported in parent will always be available in child session?
[12:24] <EriC^^> i think so yes
[12:25] <EriC^^> bhola: type 'help export' it details it further
[12:26] <bhola> EriC^^: I have actually tested it. exported variables are available in child sessions.
[12:27] <EriC^^> bhola: ok, fwiw there is also ##bash on freenode which deals with bash specifically
[12:27] <bhola> EriC^^: on ##linux I have been suggested "env -i /bin/bash". I am going to test it.
[12:28] <EriC^^> bhola: according to the manpage, env -i starts with an empty environment
[12:29] <bhola> EriC^^: Thanks for your response. I will read about env and I hope this is what I wanted to have.
[12:29] <EriC^^> ok
[12:29] <EriC^^> yw
[12:30] <bhola> EriC^^: yes I wanted to have empty environment. then create the required environment by sourcing a shell script.
[12:30] <EriC^^> i see
[12:40] <Dr_Coke> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Ubuntu "focal" 20.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz (1.37GHz) • Memory: Physical: 30.5 GiB Total (28.7 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 188.4 GB / 1.2 TB (983.0 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 980] @ Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller • Uptime: 4m 51s
[13:15] <Sven_vB> hi! on Xenial, is there a way to set my xscreensaver password different from the account login password?
[14:00] <xavierm02> Hi. I'm trying to understand what controls my fans in Ubuntu by default (on my Thinkpad T495s). Everything I've read about fan control starts by installing a package (fancontrol, thinkfan, ...) which seems to not be installed by default. So what controls the fan speed ? (I want to know this because I'd ideally want to use Qubes OS, but for some
[14:00] <xavierm02> reason fans are at full speed on it, and I'd rather avoir plugging random values in a config file made to precisely control the fans since I don't really know what I'm doing)
[14:41] <roach> Hey guys, I'm hoping one of you can help me. Currently installed on my PC is ubuntu 18.04. When powering off my PC via power off, (NOT holding down the power off button on the computer), it goes through the power off process, my screen goes dark but the lights, fan etc in my pc are still running. I have googled, i tried the trick with update-grub, as well as adding acpi=force and apm=power_off to /etc/default/grub.
[14:42] <roach> any suggestions?
[15:03] <JoeBiden420> no
[15:03] <tomreyn> roach: hi. do a mainboard firmware update. if it still happens then, try...
[15:03] <tomreyn> !acpi_iso | roach
[15:03] <tomreyn> !acpi_osi | roach
[15:17] <roach> @tomreyn, @ubottu ill give both suggestions a try later on. Thanks for the response
[15:26] <tomreyn> xavierm02: usually, the mainboard firmware does, but the OS may take over fan control if the firmware lets it and it's possible for the two to talk to each other. this often depends on the specific hardware and manufacturer, too. if thermal management doesn't work well out of the box, i'd look for firmware upgrades first of all and primarily, then resort to !acpi_osi (see above), try a newer kernel if it's recently released hardware, and check
[15:26] <tomreyn> which modules are already loaded, and how those can be configured further.
[15:35] <iamfree> is anyone here hav prob with gtkwebkit on ubuntu 20.04?
[15:36] <iamfree> past few days, i'm unable to load any page on epiphany, apport report that webkit crashed...
[15:52] <mohnish> while compiling a package, it gives me this error "CMake Error at src/plugins/CMakeLists.txt:152 (message):"
[15:52] <mohnish>   V8 (javascript) not found
[15:52] <mohnish> what package do I need to install for that?
[16:09] <ioria> mohnish, are nodejs and nodejs-dev  installed ?
[16:11] <mohnish> oh, thanks, I just installed them ioria
[16:11] <ioria> mohnish, ok
[16:16] <NeilH90> Hello guys I am trying to install wine
[16:17] <NeilH90> Getting this error
[16:17] <NeilH90> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[16:17] <NeilH90>  winehq-stable : Depends: wine-stable (= 5.0.0~bionic)
[16:17] <NeilH90> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:21] <tomreyn> NeilH90: your ubuntu version is? which related third party package archives are configured?
[16:22] <NeilH90> tomreyn: 18.04 I would update but don't have a means to write the ISO to disc or USB atm
[16:23] <ioria> NeilH90, then you might need an extra repo ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cybermax-dexter/sdl2-backport   ; then sudo apt update && sudo apt install --install-recommends winehq-stable  (if you already have added the winehq repo)
[16:24] <tomreyn> NeilH90: i see. you should really always have a secondary storage with an ubuntu live / installer image on it handy
[16:30] <NeilH90> I think that is installing now thnaks
[16:31] <xavierm02> @tomreyn Updaing the kernel had fixed other stuff (hdmi port and brightness change), but not that. There's a thinkpad acpi module loaded on Ubuntu, so I'll try installing that on Qubes see what happen. Thank you!
[16:52] <EskoK> Hello, I mounted my new m2 ssd as /speed/ ... after  a few reboots and days later, I noticed that the mount point had changed to "mnt/ffc...randomdigits"  wtf is going on?
[16:53] <EskoK> the ffc...randomdigits is the harddrive UUID
[16:53] <EskoK> and I cant remount it as /speed/ from Disks
[16:55] <ioria> EskoK, some automount options in gnome-disk probably
[16:59] <PaddyF> hello. some people call a python user a "pythonista". what are ubuntu users called? :)
[17:01] <JoeBiden420> Ubuntopians
[17:02] <skyliner_369> having trouble with a .desktop file. its exec location seems to be correct but on the desktop it has a big red X
[17:03] <kostkon> skyliner_369, have you set an icon?
[17:03] <skyliner_369> meh I think it was overzealous security...
[17:05] <skyliner_369> or is it having trouble making PNGs into desktop icons?
[17:06] <ioria> might be a permission issue skyliner_369
[17:06] <EskoK> So my disk was remounted as /mnt/uuid automatically, how can i remount it back as /speed ? i tried using disks, and setting /speed there but the playbutton does nothing
[17:07] <ioria> EskoK, have you checked fstab ?
[17:08] <kostkon> skyliner_369, it should be fine. Make sure you are putting the absolute path
[17:08] <EskoK> ioria my fstab says: /dev/disk/by-uuid/b4d42ba1-62ed-48a3-8e50-76a6662c749f /speed/ auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0/speed/swapfile swap swap defaults 0 0/dev/disk/by-uuid/ffc07bfd-453e-45d4-af53-d4c65bc16ad1 /speed ext4 nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show,x-gvfs-name=speed 0 0
[17:08] <EskoK> what should i modify
[17:08] <skyliner_369> the paths are absolute. turns out the OS is having a meltdown. time to reboot
[17:09] <kostkon> skyliner_369, or if it's not your own custom icon, its name in the icon theme you are using afaik
[17:09] <kostkon> skyliner_369, ok
[17:09] <EskoK> ioria could it be the b4d42ba1-62ed-48a3-8e50-76a6662c749f is my disk before, and I just rename it as such? and remove lower speed
[17:10] <akik> EskoK: you have it there two times?
[17:10] <EskoK> akik yes it seems so
[17:10] <akik> EskoK: ok that's not going to work
[17:10] <EskoK> agreed
[17:17] <skyliner_369> why would a desktop file open with gedit instead of work as a shortcut?
[17:19] <skyliner_369> oh... had to click allow launching in the context menu instead of allow execution in the properties
[17:19] <skyliner_369> and now icons are disappearing from my desktop????
[17:23] <skyliner_369> what's up with this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/lMZQ0ewA/Weirdness.png
[17:27] <skyliner_369> locking and unlocking fixed it.
[17:30] <wawrek> is it so that ubuntu stopped supporting emacs?
[17:30] <wawrek> is there a reason?
[17:31] <leftyfb> wawrek: do you have a support question?
[17:32] <leftyfb> wawrek: emacs is supported in ubuntu just fine. If you're running ubuntu, feel free to install it.
[17:35] <wawrek> I wanted to upgrade ubuntu and I have seen the emacs is no longer supported. That was maybe an issue with my system ;(
[17:35] <leftyfb> wawrek: where did you see ubuntu was no longer supported?
[17:35] <wawrek> it was prompted when I was trying to upgrade with do-release-upgrade
[17:36] <leftyfb> wawrek: did you have emacs installed from a PPA or some other repository?
[17:36] <wawrek> I will have to check. I have emacs 26.3
[17:37] <wawrek> leftyfb: this isn't an issue
[17:39] <wawrek> thanks anyway.
[17:47] <StupidLikeAFox> How good of a tool is 'stress' for finding instabilities?
[17:47] <StupidLikeAFox> My CPU is undervolted, and trying to make sure the system is stable
[17:52] <NeilH90> I have the app working through wine except I cannot fullscreen
[17:52] <NeilH90> Any ideas?
[17:58] <ioria> NeilH90, try a lower resolution
[17:59] <NeilH90> ioria: How can I mess with the settings?
[18:01] <ioria> NeilH90, with the settings of what ?
[18:03] <NeilH90> ioria: resolution
[18:03] <NeilH90> Seems pressing the maximize button kind of breaks it
[18:03] <ioria> NeilH90, systemsettings > Displays
[18:25] <odp> i need to buy a new video card. is nvidia still better supported than radeon cards?
[18:26] <StupidLikeAFox> odp: I've found the opposite in practice, but YMMV
[18:28] <odp> interesting. do you use open source drivers?
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | odp
[18:31] <StupidLikeAFox> Generally yes, but I've tried either flavor for either card, 18.04lts was quite painless for amd drivers myself
[18:31] <StupidLikeAFox> waiting on the point release of 20.04 to try it, cause my system had that awful stuttering thing
[18:40] <amazoniantoad> I installed xen onto my machine but it wouldn't boot because of the nvidia graphics driver. So I changed it to nouveau and now the screen resolution is very low (when booting into dom0) and my second display won't turn on. Is there any way I can install an alternative graphics driver or fix my resolution/second display?
[18:41] <RoadRunner> tried to create a persistent live usb with mkusb; the process completed without errors but the usb drive doesn't boot
[18:48] <RoadRunner> followed these steps/instructions: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8kg2RCys9Q/
[18:52] <RoadRunner> this is a record of operations from terminal: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nVTKY4VVsv/
[18:59] <RoadRunner> went with the default selection here: https://imgur.com/L365Y8l - please confirm if correct
[19:16] <alfatau> Hi guys! What's the difference between installing Ubuntu desktop and installing Ubuntu server and selecting the task "Ubuntu desktop" environment, if any?
[19:18] <compdoc> alfatau, the server version can have less stuff installed, so a little cleaner. If you install it right
[19:18] <compdoc> otherwise its the same os
[19:19] <mohnish> alfatau:  you won't get the gui in the server
[19:22] <alfatau> well, my target is a desktop system, not server. However dekstop installer does not appear to support some features I need, such as mdraid. That's why I'm thinking about installing Ubuntu using the server installer. My doubt is that using server installer the config will not be equivalent, given to have installed the same packages.
[19:31] <amazoniantoad> I installed xen onto my machine but it wouldn't boot because of the nvidia graphics driver. So I changed it to nouveau and now the screen resolution is very low (when booting into dom0) and my second display won't turn on. Is there any way I can install an alternative graphics driver or fix my resolution/second display?
[19:47] <PaddyF> amazoniantoad: i would try to let Xorg auto-generate a config and edit that one to what you need
[19:48] <wangdoodle> Does anyone here switch between the lowlatency kernel and the generic on for both work and recording audio?
[19:48] <PaddyF> !ask
[19:49] <PaddyF> not what i expected, hmmm
[19:49] <PaddyF> wangdoodle: better to ask about a specific problem
[19:50] <wangdoodle> Me? According the other channels, this is so specific hardly anyone does it
[19:50] <PaddyF> you asked a meta question
[19:50] <PaddyF> which is pointless
[19:51] <wangdoodle> Well, apparently if you don't do this you wouldn't know anything about it form what I was just told
[19:51] <PaddyF> trying to argue is pointless aswell. so i will stop now
[19:54] <wangdoodle> What is the wireless driver for ubuntu?
[19:58] <mohnish> wangdoodle:  I think its different for different devices
[19:59] <mohnish> like, for me its mt7601u
[19:59] <wangdoodle> I tried asking in kubuntu.
[19:59] <wangdoodle> running kubuntu 20 lts
[19:59] <RoadRunner> !patience
[19:59] <mohnish> so, what did they say?
[19:59] <wangdoodle> what are these random trolls that pop up?
[20:00] <mohnish> these aren't trolls
[20:00] <mohnish> they're to guide new users, I think
[20:00] <wangdoodle> ah, thanks
[20:00] <PaddyF> feel free to contact caconical for professional support
[20:01] <mohnish> lol what? you can do that?
[20:01] <PaddyF> sure
[20:01] <mohnish> how do I contact them?
[20:02] <PaddyF> at first, you need a working computer with a web browser so you can use your prefered search engine too look their contact info up
[20:02] <mohnish> xD
[20:02] <mohnish> okay
[20:02] <PaddyF> some people use their smartphone :)
[20:02] <mohnish> I'm good with irc for help
[20:03] <PaddyF> yeah, but the doodle person was a bit too demanding for my taste
[20:03] <wangdoodle> I'm going to go through a series of very specific questions. It may look weird.  What is the driver for parallel ports in ubuntu 20 and is it enabled by default?
[20:04] <wangdoodle> Demanding? I keep getting told to come ask questions here.
[20:04] <akik> i don't see any demanding questions
[20:04] <wangdoodle> I apparently don't ask the way you like, so I'm adapting. Thank you akik
[20:04] <akik> wangdoodle: have you used the lowlatency kernel in normal usage and see if you get any problems?
[20:05] <akik> that's pretty easy to do
[20:05] <PaddyF> now a pro from ##linux is on it. time to relax
[20:05] <akik> wat lol
[20:06] <wangdoodle> new question. how do we block certain people?
[20:06] <PaddyF> about time he plays that ignore card
[20:07] <akik> wangdoodle: i compiled the realtime kernel because it doesn't exist as a package https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/system_configuration#build_your_own_real-time_kernel
[20:07] <akik> some people say it's unneeded but seems to work ok with ardour and jack
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> akik: For security reasons, we do NOT support compiling a realtime kernel.
[20:08] <wangdoodle> Yes, the lowlatency kernel works fine. It seemed to work better before I installed some resource hogs like plex. And, since I do a lot of work with Java and Virtualbox, it seems best to use the generic kernel for work and boot with the lowlatency kernel for recording.
[20:09] <Eickmeyer> !realtime | akik Here's why:
[20:10] <wangdoodle> When I boot with the lowlatency kernel I would like to disable all unnessary services and whatnot. ;-)
[20:10] <akik> Eickmeyer: i don't need your handholding in my ubuntu usage, thanks
[20:10] <wangdoodle> I'm following part of a guide, adapting it to my needs. https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/system_configuration
[20:11] <vfw> Hoa can I set ubuntu to stay on?
[20:11] <wangdoodle> Now can I ask questions about the specific ubuntu drivers and stuff?
[20:11] <vfw> (To not turn off screen and have to log in again.)
[20:12] <vfw> I'm setting this computer up in VFW Post Canteen and need it to stay on for patrons to use.
[20:12] <vfw> any help would be most appreciated.
[20:12] <mohnish> vfw:  check out ubunto power management settings
[20:12] <mohnish> *ubuntu
[20:13] <vfw> I'm supposing it has something to to with power manager or screensaver.  Just need to set to just stay on.
[20:13] <vfw> mohnish: Thank you, but where is that setting.
[20:13] <mohnish> so, what ubuntu derivative are you using?
[20:14] <vfw> Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS
[20:15] <wangdoodle> akik sorry about that I think that troll followed me from another channel just to make trouble. Did you get my reply? I just now learned how to tag in IRC ha
[20:15] <vfw> mohnish: I am using Ubuntu
[20:16] <akik> wangdoodle: don't ask to ask but just ask the question and somebody will answer if they know about it
[20:16] <wangdoodle> I did. That's the problem. Paddy didn't think so.
[20:17] <mohnish> vfw:  check your settings app, it should be there
[20:17] <vfw> Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS Just need screen to stay on.  Please help.
[20:17] <vfw> mohnish: Thank you
[20:17]  * Eickmeyer is not a troll, me is the Project Leader of Ubuntu Studio.
[20:18] <wangdoodle> Eickmeyer Ha, that explains it.  And, they already said they don't know!  ha
[20:19] <Eickmeyer> wangdoodle: If you don't believe me, look me up: https://launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer
[20:19] <wangdoodle> I believe you. But, they still didn't know.
[20:19] <wangdoodle> Sent me here. ha
[20:20] <Eickmeyer> wangdoodle: You can also try #lau (Linux Audio Users). They might know.
[20:20] <Eickmeyer> That's one of the official chatrooms of linuxaudio.org
[20:20] <Eickmeyer> (from where you got that guide)
[20:21] <wangdoodle> Well, then they should know! How embarrassing for them.
[20:21] <Eickmeyer> Ok, let's get back to support topics in here, everyone.
[20:22] <wangdoodle> Yes, please. Sorry. Got followed by a heavyweight troll but they're gone.
[20:23] <wangdoodle> Anyone know if a parallel port driver is enabled by default in ubuntu 20 and if so what is it called?
[20:24] <Eickmeyer> wangdoodle: These are very heavy questions, and deal with the Linux kernel itself. Most drivers like that are hardcoded and cannot be disabled.
[20:25] <wangdoodle> There'
[20:25] <wangdoodle> sry, there's an example here of using modprobe -r ppdev to disable it in some version
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> wangdoodle: One would have to take hours to compile a Linux kernel and generate the configuration step-by-step, which can take hours to try.
[20:25] <akik> wangdoodle: parport
[20:25] <Eickmeyer> Anyways, good luck. :)
[20:26] <wangdoodle> So, perhaps that one is already baked into the lowlatency kernel?
[20:26] <Eickmeyer> Before I go..
[20:27] <akik> wangdoodle: try "lsmod | grep parport" and "modprobe parport"
[20:27] <Eickmeyer> wangdoodle: There are only about 5 settings difference in the kernel configuration for the lowlatency vs generic kernel in Ubuntu out of hundreds of flags.
[20:28] <Eickmeyer> So, you can easily assume that anything enabled in the generic kernel is in the lowlatency kernel, since it's simply a subkernel of the generic one.
[20:31] <wangdoodle> akik thank you, that's it and yes it's enabled. no clue what it does but is says here in paddy's article that it isn't needed for recording. though i'm beginning to doubt this article
[20:32] <wangdoodle> it also sayd FATAL when I tried to disable it. yikes what fun
[20:33] <akik> wangdoodle: i don't think it's needed either. what article
[20:33] <wangdoodle> Can I assume that the printer drivers and the webcam drivers are baked into the kernal too?
[20:33] <wangdoodle> article: https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/system_configuration
[20:34] <akik> wangdoodle: that command removes the kernel module
[20:35] <wangdoodle> Down the page under "Example script to disable resource-intensive daemons, services and processes" ?
[20:35] <akik> wangdoodle: yes
[20:36] <wangdoodle> whoa. is that bad to do while it's running because I just ran all those modprobe -r comands to see if they broke anything and so far so good. eek
[20:36] <Haled> So, I'm trying to ssh to this user on Ubuntu server and I get this 'fatal: cannot exec 'git-shell-commands/ls': Not a directory
[20:36] <Haled> error and thei git>
[20:36] <Haled> What digs?
[20:37] <akik> wangdoodle: it's not a problem. the system wouldn't let you remove them if they are in use
[20:38] <tds> Haled: sounds like you've got a forced command or custom shell for your user set, locking you to just git-shell?
[20:38] <wangdoodle> akik thanks, I figured as much. Thanks for helping me find a better question.
[20:40] <wangdoodle> Can anyone point me towards an example script or recent tutorial showing how to find and disable resource intensive services and processes when not needed?
[20:47] <krytarik> wangdoodle: Honestly, rather than trying to find a generic washing list, I'd just start with disabling the services you know are resource intensive and see where that gets me.
[20:47] <krytarik> Like you mentioned Apache.
[20:48] <tomreyn> wangdoodle: you could uninstall those, or run systemctl disable someunit
[20:48] <tomreyn> + mask
[20:52] <Haled> tds: sounds reasonable. Where do I look for it?
[20:52] <wangdoodle> krytarik: sigh, yeah. good point. I guess I was hoping for a list of the main resource hogs that are unnessary while recording. The stuff I installed myself, I always intended to "tack on" to the script.
[20:53] <wangdoodle> Anyone know a good gui program for finding resource hogs? Sorry, if that's a newbie qustion. I'm still new to a lot of this.
[20:53] <Haled> tds: though I should note that using Ctrl+c from the logged session disconnects me entirely. So it's not like it's just a startup script or something
[20:56] <krytarik> wangdoodle: I'd look at what system monitor Kubuntu offers by default first.
[20:59] <wangdoodle> krytarik: thanks, kde probably has a good one.
[21:00] <krytarik> wangdoodle: Just make sure it shows all processes rather than just the user ones.
[21:01] <bytesafari> Anyone have issues running Dark Souls III through proton on ubuntu 18.04?
[21:01] <mesaboogie> glances (similar to htop) is terminal but it is very nice for that purpose wangdoodle
[21:10] <Drecondius> I need a pointing to info to automount a hdd that's already formatted ext4
[21:11] <akem> Drecondius, Put it in your /etc/fstab.
[21:13] <akem> Somthing like: /dev/sdb1 /media/disk2 ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[21:13] <akem> Adapt the device and mount point etc to your situation. Look online for fstab.
[21:15] <krytarik> !fstab | Or look here first..
[21:36] <tds> Haled: first place I'd check is /etc/passwd for your shell
[21:36] <wangdoodle> mesaboogie: much appreciated this looks great thanks
[21:56] <davido_> Could someone please tell me why I keep seeing "invalid credentials" when I try to sudo snap refresh?  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vTXyBGdzfn/
[21:57] <davido_> I've been trying to get to the bottom of this for some time.
[21:58] <davido_> Is there a channel more appropriate for this question?
[22:04] <davido_> Is there a time of day on here I might run into someone who has any inkling how to deal with this? A mailing list? A support group for snaps?
[22:06] <oerheks> "Unfortunately, the only way to fix it for me was to remove all snap package and reinstall it again." https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1754345
[22:11] <davido_> well, one of the comments in that thread helped oerheks: uninstall and reinstall the package that was complaining.
[22:12] <davido_> I guess it's safe to say that bug still exists but that it only affects the few unlucky who speak up or many who remain silent. :)
[22:12] <oerheks> indeed, see the last comment too
[22:12] <davido_> Thanks for finding that.
[22:12] <oerheks> not sure what happend, network change/shutdown dirty..
[22:13] <oerheks> the .json not corrupted, check that too
[22:13] <davido_> That last comment makes sense; I did a password update not too long ago. But I guess I assumed that a successful snap login was just that. :)
[22:16] <davido_> So for me steps to reproduce would be do a password change while a snap package is out of date, then login (successfully), then refresh (unsuccessfully)
[22:17] <davido_> alright, I'm good, thanks.  --out