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| tsimonq2 | o/ | 14:55 |
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| sil2100 | o/ | 14:56 |
| rbasak | o/ | 14:58 |
| ddstreet | o/ | 15:00 |
| * ddstreet coffee while others arrive | 15:00 | |
| sil2100 | I see we don't have any applicants today, right? Though the list of action items seems to be quite big | 15:01 |
| rbasak | AFAICS yes | 15:03 |
| ddstreet | if rafaeldtinoco chairing today? | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | s/if/is | 15:04 |
| rafaeldtinoco | am I ? | 15:04 |
| rafaeldtinoco | no applicants | 15:04 |
| rafaeldtinoco | o/ | 15:04 |
| ddstreet | no, just the action items to review | 15:04 |
| rafaeldtinoco | can someone chair ? we have a concurrent | 15:05 |
| rafaeldtinoco | meeting happening | 15:05 |
| ddstreet | rbasak you're next on the chairing list, but i assume you are also in that concurrent mtg | 15:06 |
| ddstreet | so i can chair as i'm next in the list | 15:06 |
| rafaeldtinoco | alright, Ill get the next one | 15:06 |
| rafaeldtinoco | thanks dan | 15:06 |
| rbasak | Thanks | 15:07 |
| ddstreet | ok let me bring up the bot instructions then, one sec | 15:07 |
| ddstreet | #startmeeting DMB meeting | 15:08 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Jun 1 15:08:08 2020 UTC. The chair is ddstreet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:08 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:08 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | <wxl> be nice | DMB meeting | Current topic: | ||
| ddstreet | #chair ddstreet | 15:08 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: ddstreet | 15:08 |
| ddstreet | #topic Review of previous action items | 15:09 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | <wxl> be nice | DMB meeting | Current topic: Review of previous action items | ||
| ddstreet | tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (carried over) | 15:09 |
| rbasak | teward: around? | 15:09 |
| ddstreet | i assume this continues to be carried over? we could change it to (will be carried until mentioned) if so | 15:09 |
| teward | hey headbashing atm | 15:10 |
| teward | here but i am playing catchup on 2 things | 15:10 |
| teward | :) | 15:10 |
| ddstreet | tsimonq2 should we carry that item over until mentioned in a future mtg? | 15:11 |
| tsimonq2 | ddstreet: Sure. | 15:12 |
| ddstreet | ack thnx | 15:12 |
| tsimonq2 | Before that happens... | 15:12 |
| ddstreet | #action tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (will be carried until mentioned) | 15:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (will be carried until mentioned) | 15:12 |
| tsimonq2 | I'd like to mention I have something started. | 15:12 |
| ddstreet | ah ok sorry | 15:12 |
| tsimonq2 | There are some Lubuntuisms in there, but it's the base for what I'm going to write. | 15:12 |
| tsimonq2 | It's all good, it's not fully done yet. | 15:12 |
| tsimonq2 | https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/lubuntu-dev/ | 15:13 |
| tsimonq2 | That's actually based off of the Kubuntu Developers page. | 15:13 |
| tsimonq2 | Anyway, I thought I'd mention it. We can move on from her.e | 15:14 |
| ddstreet | thanks, looks good! | 15:15 |
| ddstreet | ok next item | 15:15 |
| ddstreet | teward follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) | 15:15 |
| teward | still haven't had a chance to, anyone else on the DMB want to take it? | 15:15 |
| teward | (one of the billion things that I think I handed to ddstreet I thought) | 15:16 |
| ddstreet | yep i can take this, unless anyone else wants to grab it | 15:16 |
| ddstreet | #action ddstreet follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) | 15:16 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet follow up on packageset owning team for ubuntu-mate (carried over) | 15:16 |
| teward | (FWIW: lots of IT Security issues in my main job so that has hampered my efforts on things) | 15:16 |
| ddstreet | rafaeldtinoco i'm going to defer your items until the end of the list if that's ok with you, try to keep actions grouped by owner | 15:17 |
| rafaeldtinoco | es | 15:17 |
| rafaeldtinoco | its a good practice | 15:17 |
| ddstreet | teward to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future | 15:17 |
| ddstreet | teward i looked at this a bit, i don't think it's done yet right? | 15:17 |
| sil2100 | If someone has any action items that they'd like to pass to someone else, feel free to assign me then | 15:18 |
| teward | no it's not, I think we need to JFDI. | 15:18 |
| ddstreet | my main q was if we are dropping edubuntu just for groovy and later, or for focal and earlier too? | 15:18 |
| teward | ddstreet: i think that was a separate discussion | 15:18 |
| teward | because that task was specifically getting the PPU rights applied | 15:18 |
| teward | we have yet to have a full discussion over the edubuntu packageset removal | 15:18 |
| ddstreet | ok so just to be safe we should ask for PPU rights for all releases for him then | 15:18 |
| teward | correct. | 15:18 |
| ddstreet | ack, i can do this, i was already looking at it earlier today | 15:18 |
| ddstreet | #action ddstreet to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future | 15:19 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet to handle PPU rights of tux{math,paint,type},x11vnc for alkisg ahead of edubuntu packageset removal in the future | 15:19 |
| ddstreet | teward to apply permissions changes for oSoMoN to mozilla packageset and send out announcement (rolled over) | 15:19 |
| ddstreet | teward this is done, just needs the announcement sent out; i can do that | 15:19 |
| teward | yep | 15:19 |
| ddstreet | #action ddstreet send out announcement for oSoMoN addition to mozilla packageset (rolled over) | 15:20 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet send out announcement for oSoMoN addition to mozilla packageset (rolled over) | 15:20 |
| ddstreet | teward to handle Erich Eickmeyer permissions changes for access to Ubuntu Studio packageset and send out announcement (half-done, rolled over) | 15:20 |
| ddstreet | this is done | 15:20 |
| ddstreet | sil2100 to add kanashiro coredev permissions and send announcement | 15:20 |
| ddstreet | i think you did that right sil2100? | 15:20 |
| sil2100 | Yes, this is done | 15:20 |
| ddstreet | ok we're on to rafaeldtinoco items :) | 15:21 |
| ddstreet | rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) | 15:21 |
| tsimonq2 | I did process some minor packageset additions for Erich over the past few weeks. | 15:21 |
| tsimonq2 | calamares-settings-ubuntu comes to mind. ;) | 15:21 |
| rafaeldtinoco | ddstreet: Ill have PTO on wednesday and will work all my items during my PTO basically. | 15:21 |
| rafaeldtinoco | so the gnome-shell item was discussed broadly | 15:21 |
| rafaeldtinoco | in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001501.html | 15:22 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and Im considering to be together with "refresh packagesets" | 15:22 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and, like tsimonq2 said, we are doing all packageset changes additions/removals by hand here and ther | 15:23 |
| rafaeldtinoco | but we still need the full refresh | 15:23 |
| ddstreet | so should we carry over all items for you then? | 15:23 |
| rafaeldtinoco | nope | 15:23 |
| ddstreet | or are some already done, by hand | 15:23 |
| rafaeldtinoco | there were 2 you did | 15:23 |
| ddstreet | i did? ;-) | 15:23 |
| rafaeldtinoco | yaru-theme | 15:23 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and fprintf | 15:23 |
| rafaeldtinoco | for ubuntu-desktop | 15:23 |
| rafaeldtinoco | didnt u ? | 15:23 |
| rafaeldtinoco | i mean, like gnome-shell, they are connected as well | 15:24 |
| rafaeldtinoco | from Laney "I know this isn't finalised yet. It works for the yaru-theme case, but | 15:24 |
| rafaeldtinoco | there are also some others which are IMO still incorrect, like mozjs68." | 15:24 |
| ddstreet | i dont think i did, but let me put the action on me to check that, maybe i did | 15:24 |
| rafaeldtinoco | nope you replied to the thread | 15:24 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and there is some work from Iain | 15:24 |
| rafaeldtinoco | ddstreet: carry all my items over please | 15:25 |
| ddstreet | right i replied basically saying i don't understand what the desktop packageset split is intended to do | 15:25 |
| rafaeldtinoco | i think they will all be sorted | 15:25 |
| ddstreet | ok | 15:25 |
| rafaeldtinoco | with me catching up with what Iain did | 15:25 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and updating all packagesets | 15:25 |
| rafaeldtinoco | this will be done by next meeting | 15:25 |
| ddstreet | #action rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) | 15:25 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to follow up with TB / packageset tooling on ubuntu-studio-uploaders being added to ubuntustudio packageset for upload rights (carried over) | 15:25 |
| ddstreet | #action rafaeldtinoco to handle request "Adding lubuntu-update-notifier to the Lubuntu package set" (carried over) | 15:25 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to handle request "Adding lubuntu-update-notifier to the Lubuntu package set" (carried over) | 15:25 |
| ddstreet | #action rafaeldtinoco to complete documentation on existing packageset tooling, and discuss the current (large) delta in the packagesets that need adjusted (rolled over) | 15:25 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to complete documentation on existing packageset tooling, and discuss the current (large) delta in the packagesets that need adjusted (rolled over) | 15:25 |
| ddstreet | #action rafaeldtinoco to handle getting gnome-shell into ubuntu desktop exceptions list | 15:26 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to handle getting gnome-shell into ubuntu desktop exceptions list | 15:26 |
| ddstreet | #action rafaeldtinoco to handle "Refresh the packagesets" mailing list item (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html) | 15:26 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to handle "Refresh the packagesets" mailing list item (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001486.html) | 15:26 |
| ddstreet | #action rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Including yaru-theme in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html) | 15:26 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Including yaru-theme in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001487.html) | 15:26 |
| ddstreet | #action rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Include fprint packages in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001488.html) | 15:26 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to look into mailing list item "Include fprint packages in the ubuntu-desktop set" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-April/001488.html) | 15:26 |
| ddstreet | ok and rafaeldtinoco if i can help with anything do let me know | 15:26 |
| sil2100 | Same | 15:26 |
| rafaeldtinoco | tks | 15:26 |
| rafaeldtinoco | i think Ill got it all cleared up | 15:27 |
| rafaeldtinoco | PTO is for that, isnt it ? | 15:27 |
| ddstreet | lol only if you're doing it at the beach :) | 15:27 |
| rafaeldtinoco | sgtm | 15:27 |
| ddstreet | ok that's all the previous action items, no applications on the agenda for today | 15:27 |
| ddstreet | 2 mailing list items i think | 15:28 |
| ddstreet | Packages to Remove from ubuntustudio packageset (Erich Eickmeyer) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001497.html | 15:28 |
| rafaeldtinoco | they are related | 15:28 |
| rafaeldtinoco | to all my actions | 15:28 |
| ddstreet | yep unfortunately i think you're getting this one too :) | 15:28 |
| rafaeldtinoco | cleaning up for ubuntustudio | 15:28 |
| ddstreet | but it should come 'for free' with the tooling updates | 15:28 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and packageset exceptions <- this feature is *needed* to make sure we can cover it all | 15:29 |
| ddstreet | #action rafaeldtinoco to handle "Packages to Remove from ubuntustudio packageset" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001497.html) | 15:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to handle "Packages to Remove from ubuntustudio packageset" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001497.html) | 15:29 |
| rafaeldtinoco | #) | 15:29 |
| ddstreet | rafaeldtinoco unfortunately i think the next one is yours too, iain's email | 15:29 |
| ddstreet | Applying packageset exceptions transitively (Iain Lane) | 15:30 |
| rafaeldtinoco | yep | 15:30 |
| rafaeldtinoco | its the exception to solve the gnome-shell case | 15:30 |
| Laney | The core split is basically the expansion of the desktop-common platform seed | 15:30 |
| Laney | sorry, I got highlighted :-) | 15:30 |
| rafaeldtinoco | that was the idea =) | 15:30 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and thanks for the packegeset scripts updates | 15:30 |
| ddstreet | #action rafaeldtinoco to handle "Applying packageset exceptions transitively" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001501.html) | 15:30 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to handle "Applying packageset exceptions transitively" (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2020-May/001501.html) | 15:30 |
| rafaeldtinoco | ill get into it this week | 15:30 |
| Laney | right, ok | 15:30 |
| ddstreet | ah oops, i forgot to change topic | 15:31 |
| ddstreet | #topic AOB | 15:31 |
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| Laney | I think it's risky updating thoes sets manually, because then the next time you go to run the script things will drop out 'mysteriously' | 15:31 |
| rafaeldtinoco | Laney: ill mark all requests in the last months | 15:31 |
| rafaeldtinoco | and verify one by one | 15:31 |
| Laney | it should at least be paired with adding exceptions | 15:31 |
| rafaeldtinoco | Laney: yep | 15:31 |
| Laney | well, actually, you'd expect that normally just re-running the script would get new seeded stuff | 15:32 |
| Laney | ok, i'll stop talking now | 15:32 |
| Laney | :p | 15:32 |
| rafaeldtinoco | Laney: can I ping you | 15:32 |
| rafaeldtinoco | after I sort out your changes ? | 15:32 |
| rafaeldtinoco | #) | 15:32 |
| ddstreet | ok any other business to discuss? | 15:33 |
| ddstreet | or did i miss anything? | 15:33 |
| ddstreet | i think we're done then, in 5... | 15:33 |
| ddstreet | 4 | 15:33 |
| rafaeldtinoco | i think youve missed | 15:33 |
| rafaeldtinoco | a few topic changes | 15:33 |
| rafaeldtinoco | #) | 15:33 |
| ddstreet | lol yes i did :) | 15:33 |
| rafaeldtinoco | like select chair for next meeting | 15:34 |
| ddstreet | ah ok | 15:34 |
| ddstreet | #topic Chair and Time for Next Meeting | 15:34 |
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| rafaeldtinoco | ill be the next chair, then robie | 15:34 |
| ddstreet | next mtg is Monday 2020-06-15 19:00 UTC | 15:34 |
| rafaeldtinoco | perhaps dan can go to the end of the line | 15:34 |
| sil2100 | I think I also haven't chaired for a while | 15:34 |
| ddstreet | sounds good, i'll move myself down | 15:34 |
| sil2100 | Probably missed those meetings on which I was to chair | 15:35 |
| ddstreet | ok anythign else i missed? | 15:35 |
| sil2100 | So if anyone feels like they'd like a break, feel free to select me as the chair | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | thats ok | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | next meeting I have so many items | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | being the chair will make things quicker | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | #) | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | ddstreet: thanks for being the chair today | 15:35 |
| rafaeldtinoco | nothing else | 15:35 |
| sil2100 | ;) | 15:35 |
| sil2100 | Nothing here | 15:36 |
| ddstreet | np, ok ending in 3... | 15:36 |
| ddstreet | 2 | 15:36 |
| ddstreet | 1 | 15:36 |
| ddstreet | #endmeeting | 15:36 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Jun 1 15:36:10 2020 UTC. | 15:36 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-06-01-15.08.moin.txt | 15:36 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:36 |
| ddstreet | thanks all o/ | 15:36 |
| rafaeldtinoco | o/ cheers! | 15:36 |
| rafaeldtinoco | ddstreet: are i updating agenda ? | 15:39 |
| rafaeldtinoco | are i / are u | 15:39 |
| ddstreet | rafaeldtinoco i got it, i figure the chair should update it | 15:40 |
| rafaeldtinoco | yep, i think so | 15:40 |
| rafaeldtinoco | ok then. tks | 15:40 |
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