[01:39] <CarlFK> what is the command to add a repository key?  2eb11aeda224c43c
[01:40] <CarlFK> to a rasp pi running rasbpian, so add-apt-repo isnt' working for me
[01:40] <Psi-Jack> Raspbian != Ubuntu, either.
[01:40] <Psi-Jack> Not supported /here/
[01:41] <CarlFK> Im using a ubuntu ppa.  does that help?
[01:42] <Psi-Jack> Of course not.
[01:44] <oerheks> are you sure that ppa has candidates for your arm thingy?
[01:46] <CarlFK> yep
[01:48] <CarlFK> https://launchpad.net/~carlfk/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/19322467           Architecture:           arm64
[01:48] <skyliner_369> can a luascript be pointed to a dll, and treat said dll as a black box?
[01:49] <Biessie> How can i make a script run in a screen at bootup? i have a cs1.6 HLDS that i want to beable to screen -r HLDS to load it up and see console and alt +a+d to get out and go on about my day
[01:54] <oerheks> Biessie, you ask about windows cs1.6 HLDS  in here?
[01:54] <Biessie> Windows cs1.6 HLDS using a 'screen' ?
[01:55] <Biessie> hmm
[01:55] <InnovAnon-Inc> lol what is windows? does run.BAT still run at boot?
[01:56] <Biessie> no but what i am asking is how to run a script in a screen at startup, regardless of what the script may be
[02:00] <bparker> how am I supposed to configure my networking in an ubuntu docker container if the image doesn't come with any tools
[02:01] <bparker> there's no ip, ifconfig, route, ping, *anything*
[02:03] <Biessie> Would this work adding to rc.local? --> su - username -c "screen -dm -S ./home/drake/cs16server/hlds_run -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +map de_dust2 +maxplayers 12 -pingboost 1 +ip 192.168.1.181"
[02:05] <bparker> Biessie: there's no reason to use su in rc.local, it already runs as root
[02:05] <bparker> another option would be to run that using the @reboot tag in your crontab
[02:06] <Biessie> What if i want it to run as the user 'drake'
[02:06] <bparker> oh I see
[02:06] <Biessie> change username to drake
[02:06] <bparker> yes then crontab of the user itself
[02:06] <bparker> with @reboot works
[02:06] <Biessie> 10-4!
[02:06] <Biessie> thanks bparker
[02:06] <bparker> np
[02:07] <Biessie> testing it out. rebooting my box and my BNC is on same box. brb
[02:15] <skyliner_369> I'm wondering if there's a universal symbol for showing that something's under development or a work in progress
[02:17] <hwdyki> i have a custom apt repo which i'm trying to apt-mirror. but is giving me an error. see: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WCBFyJy2vV/
[02:24] <Sven_vB> is there a reasonable distinction between a regular file, and a hard link to a regular file?
[02:24] <bparker> no
[02:26] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[02:26] <bparker> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/170444/how-to-find-out-a-file-is-hard-link-or-symlink
[02:26] <bparker> there are those methods however
[02:27] <Sven_vB> afaik that can only count whether "additional" hard links exist, not distinguish them, right?
[02:28] <bparker> all hard links have at least 2 links
[02:28] <bparker> so it is a distinguishing factor
[02:28] <Sven_vB> yeah I meant that none of the file's directory entries are more "true"/"legit"/"original" than the others
[02:28] <housecat> there's nothing to distinguish. a "regular file" is just a hard link where there aren't any other hard links floating around
[02:28] <housecat> correct
[02:29] <bparker> right, there's no way to know which file came first besides the ctime
[02:29] <Sven_vB> "stat hardlink.file | grep -i inode" ??? the quality of a lot of answers on SO is amazing. in a bad way.
[02:30] <bparker> I can't even browse the site, they block my host
[02:30] <Sven_vB> :D
[02:31] <Sven_vB> wait but StackExchange worked for you? aren't they the same network?
[02:31] <Sven_vB> (also I actually meant SX.)
[02:32] <bparker> maybe broken is a better word
[02:32] <Sven_vB> also the next answer, stat --printf '%h\n' ??? well maybe their flavor of stat doesn't have --format
[02:33] <Sven_vB> yeah their stylesheets don't work for me either. it's always an extra cringe if people let me view their website but ban me from downloading their stylesheets for some paranoia reason.
[02:33] <bparker> two wgets a minute apart, one worked immediately and now every attempt just hangs
[02:34] <bparker> Connecting to unix.stackexchange.com (unix.stackexchange.com)|151.101.65.69|:443... connected.
[02:34] <bparker> stuck here forever
[02:35] <bparker> now it works again... now it doesn't, seconds apart. same ip
[02:35] <bparker> I call tht broken
[02:35] <bparker> that*
[02:35] <Sven_vB> I agree.
[02:39] <Drecondius> Ok, so I added a disk to fstab to automount to /home/disk but when I point steam to it, it says there isn't enough room, the disk partition is almost 1tb (swap space excluded) but the primary home directory isn't quite that large, only 60 or so gb. What do i need to modify in fstab for it to "see" the entirety of the free space?
[02:40] <Drecondius> Should I simply have it mount to a directory in mnt and symlink it, if so, how to i get it to be writable?
[02:41] <Sven_vB> Drecondius, what does "df -h /home/disk" report when run as the same user as steam?
[02:42] <Drecondius> same user as now, or does steam make it's own hidden user?
[02:43] <Drecondius> it shows only 1% used
[02:43] <Drecondius> "dev/sdi2       869G   72M  825G   1% /home/disk"
[02:43] <noj357> hi, how'd I go about changing the title bar height in gnome 3.36?
[02:44] <noj357> am I creating a gtk.css in ~/.config/gtk-n/
[02:44] <Drecondius> so should I just have it mount in /mnt/disk and symlink /home/disk ?
[02:45] <Drecondius> I don't need to change owner of the disk, because I'm not gonna be the only one using it, but  I would like to make sure it can be written to, at least by steam and it's group's users
[02:47] <Drecondius> Wait, do i use spaces or tabs in or does it matter in fstab?
[02:47] <Drecondius> the format isn't the same as it was when i wrote it before reboot
[02:52] <Drecondius> better question, it didn't require authentication to mount, but it's requiring auth to unmount. Is that normal?
[02:56] <Drecondius> steam still only reports the disk as having 35.1 gb which is bs .....
[03:26] <Drecondius> if I make a / on one hdd and do /home on a seperate hdd, will I still be able to use some of the space on the / disk for personal files, ex put something like minecraft on that drive and steam library on the /home drive? or do I need to have some creative maneuvering with links?
[03:58] <kel_> channel safe now?
[04:25] <naribia> so I'm trying to install (headless) amd drivers and stuck with "The following packages have unmet dependencies: amdgpu-lib32 " then lists a bunch of dependecies, and then "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[04:26] <naribia> not sure how to fix this, this is a brand new ubuntu server 18.04.4 installation
[04:26] <naribia> ive tried apt install -f, didn't do anything
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> naribia: unmet dependencys mostly occur when adding external ppa's to your system and conflict with apt
[04:27] <naribia> hm, I never added any ppa's, brand new installation
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> naribia: can you pastebin the apt output please?
[04:36] <naribia> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/H9Gm2E6r
[04:48] <guiverc> naribia, your pastebin shows held packages, and software from 3rd party sources (such as PPAs) https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=amdgpu-lib32
[04:54] <oerheks> never seen this too; missing arch i386?? sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[05:09] <naribia> guiverc: does this mean I need to add some sort of ppa?
[05:10] <naribia> I'm referencing the amd driver installation manual, it doesn't say anything about needing that though
[05:10] <naribia> https://amdgpu-install.readthedocs.io/en/latest/preamble.html
[05:11] <guiverc> no, you've already got one added (wherever amdgpu-lib32 came from); follow oerheks suggestion would be first I'd suspect
[05:12] <oerheks> never seen an command that installes amdgpu-lib32 ..
[05:13] <naribia> ah
[05:13] <naribia> yeah dpkg --add-architecture i386 then apt update seems to have solved it
[05:13] <naribia> I'm just installing amd drivesr I downloaded from their website
[05:15] <oerheks>  just installing amd drivers .. sure, but you only need to run the install script
[05:15] <naribia> right, the install script came to that error
[05:16] <oerheks> no, it did not.
[05:18] <naribia> uuh, the pastebin I shared was me installing amdgpu-lib32 manually to bring that error but that was the error the install script generated (the end of it anyways) and after I added i386 the install script seems to be working (so far, its still running)
[05:28] <abhijit> Hi Guys. i have set the bluetooth headphone mic volume to highest on 20.04, and still other person hear my voice in low volume. is there any way to fix tis bluetooth headphone mic issue?
[06:01] <nite`> Hey, there's something wrong with the fonts i see question marks instead of special characters (using ubuntu 18.04)
[06:05] <abhijit> nite`, everywhere or only is few apps like web browser? only for English or you are using other language?
[06:05] <abhijit> is=for
[06:06] <nite`> I've notice when i'm using WeeChat
[06:07] <abhijit> nite`, did you try changing font settings from WeeChat setting panel?
[06:09] <nite`> yeah, i'm not sure if it's the font settings
[06:13] <nite`> 06:11:09 â~U Option changed: weechat.look.prefix_same_nick = "â¤·"  (default: "")
[06:13] <nite`> this is an example
[06:14] <red_shift>  Are you a prick? Do you like to have (mostly imagined) power? Be an OP today!
[06:14] <red_shift> apply4op@ubuntu.com
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !ops | red_shift up to no good
[06:15] <red_shift> snitches get stitches, bitches!
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> tnx dax
[06:20] <abhijit> nite`, not sure then. maybe you should try in #weechat ?
[06:21] <nite`> ok thanks for trying :)
[06:22] <virmaha> hello, my wifi is disabled by hardware switch
[06:22] <virmaha> rfkill unblock all doesn't work
[06:22] <virmaha> pressing fn + f2 doesn't work
[06:23] <virmaha> echo 0 > /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill0/hard doesn't work
[06:23] <virmaha> what to do?:|
[06:24] <anon_moose> anyone here use Yubikey?
[06:54] <skyliner_369> how do I set the compose key in 20.04?
[07:51] <aje> moo
[08:09] <ducasse> skyliner_369: 'setxkbmap -option compose:caps' will map caps lock to compose
[08:09] <idstam> How do I add a known wifi network that is currently out of range? (I'm on ubuntu 20.04)
[08:35] <OnceMe> somoene with webcam from logitech? is it working on ubuntu?
[08:45] <oerheks> OnceMe, tons of logitech webcams, which one?
[08:45] <OnceMe> c920
[08:46] <OnceMe> oe`
[08:46] <OnceMe> oerheks:
[08:47] <oerheks> no bugreports on that one
[08:49] <OnceMe> cool homie
[08:49] <OnceMe> no issues with logitech
[08:49] <OnceMe> its a good brand
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> oO
[08:59] <addc182> any recommendations for a system checkpoint/rollback tool?
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> !borg | addc182 could try this
[09:00] <OERIAS> firewire should have been the standard over USB
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> OERIAS: we dont take hardware polls here
[09:02] <dan01> Old question, can Ubuntu be installed on a T2 Macbook? :D
[09:03] <oerheks> what are the specs?
[09:03] <oerheks> processor/ram/gpu?
[09:04] <dan01> 2019 macbook pro 16", 16 GB RAM, core i-9,AMD Radeon Pro 5500M 4 GB
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> liveusb test dan01
[09:04] <dan01> It's the T2 chip problem that didn't allow Linux access to theS SSD
[09:04] <dan01> lotuspsychje: ... that's right.
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> dan01: also interesting: https://gist.github.com/gbrow004/096f845c8fe8d03ef9009fbb87b781a4
[09:23] <user217_> what is differences between "cp -r" and "cp -R" ?
[09:25] <oerheks> man cp is clear about that
[09:25] <rjb> user217_: cp --help or man cp would tell you.
[09:25] <rjb> ^^
[09:26] <user217_> rjb: really helpful, thanks
[09:26] <oerheks> spoiler, -R is equal to -r
[09:28] <OERIAS> lotuspsychje, it wasn't
[09:28] <OERIAS> *wasn't a poll
[09:28] <OERIAS> It was something I typed on the wrong channel
[09:28] <OERIAS> I was having  discussion on USB vs FireWiere
[09:29] <OERIAS> *Firewire
[09:49] <luna_> On the testing branch of the Gorilla now
[10:04] <eliyahutbr> Hello folks. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ft9Nx7Wk4G/ whats up with the "E: The method 'ftp' is unsupported and disabled by default. Consider switching to http(s). Set Dir::Bin::Methods::ftp to "ftp" to enable it again."?
[10:06] <oerheks> i think you did something like this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1187236/how-to-re-enable-ftp-on-secondary-ubuntu-debian-server-to-pull-updates-from-main
[10:07] <oerheks> remove that 99local-ftp as in that example to fix it
[10:08] <eliyahutbr> i need a file name as an argument, no?
[10:08] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hsgv4sNrrY/
[10:09] <oerheks> that step created the FTP error..
[10:09] <oerheks> remove the file
[10:09] <oerheks> you know how you got there, right?
[10:10] <eliyahutbr> yeah
[10:11] <eliyahutbr> removed the file
[10:12] <eliyahutbr> so now what?
[10:12] <eliyahutbr> btw, this is all due to me screwing around trying to import a root crt file
[10:14] <oerheks> now you can run apt update again?
[10:15] <eliyahutbr> nope
[10:22] <eliyahutbr> i am a bit worried about not being able to upgrade...
[10:34] <boktan> how to point domain name to virtualbox without open port on ubuntu server
[10:58] <Fudge> how do you get your old kernels to show, i thought shift should do it. also what can i type into the grub menu to boot an old kernel, linux-image-5.3.0-53-generic broke my sound/networking and im blind so trying to get old kernel to play ball
[10:59] <Fudge> this shitty lenovo chipset needs kicking
[11:04] <eliyahutbr1> posted this an hour ago. not trying to spam. just seeing if maybe someone else has any ideas. "Hello folks. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ft9Nx7Wk4G/ whats up with the "E: The method 'ftp' is unsupported and disabled by default. Consider switching to http(s). Set Dir::Bin::Methods::ftp to "ftp" to enable it again."?"
[11:08] <Fudge> that's a bad conn
[11:17] <tatertots> Fudge: please don't use profanity such as "shitty"
[11:22] <tarelerulz> I'm instaling Kdev and why is my system needing to install linux-image 5.4 ?
[11:27] <tarelerulz> lots  problems random programs not installing
[11:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:50] <tarelerulz> I got Ubuntu 20.04 awhile ago and I can't install a lot of apps. it said something about updating my kernel ,but why you need to do that to install an app?
[11:50] <Ben64> what exactly was the message
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: always keep your system up to date, before doing anything else
[11:52] <tarelerulz> That did not work ,but its kind of been messed up. it says apps install but they don't work , some stuff flat out does not install. I have not do anything but install Ubuntu . It seem odd to be so broken
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: pastebin the errors as adviced by Ben64
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> volunteers can take a look for you with more details
[11:57] <tarelerulz> https://pastebin.com/YXkdwQ7G
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please
[12:01] <tarelerulz> what does that do?
[12:01] <frad> on turning the computer on first thing I see is the vendors name. I want to hide it. How do I do that?
[12:01] <frad> ablank screen with thecompany's logo
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: update your system
[12:02] <tarelerulz> really my system this messed up because I did not update and try to install apps only?
[12:03] <tarelerulz> Is that normal?
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: for a stable & secure ubuntu system, always first update your system to latest
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: after that, you can choose what you want to do
[12:06] <tarelerulz> It seems like ok , if do fresh install , it seems like it should work if you only install like one or two apps. I mean I did get there stable version from them. It seem odd to be that broken
[12:09] <InnovAnon-Inc> "should" is a moral statement. the stable variant of ubuntu may still require security patches and bugfixes if problems are discovered at a later date than it was released.
[12:13] <mrec> does anyone know x11vnc? any idea how to get the keyboard work properly?
[12:14] <mrec> the keymaps are nothing but chaos with vnc
[12:14] <tarelerulz> does it matter if you do a mulit boot system for update?
[12:33] <vlt> mrec: Often depends on the client.
[12:51] <MapMan> Hi! I'm running a django app on ubuntu with nginx. All works well. I have an REST API endpoint that's reachable via browser or Postman. The problem is, my Slack app that's supposed to send POST requests to the endpoint is unable to do so. Any idea how to troubleshoot this? I'm not seeing anything in nginx or UFW logs. Anything else I should try?
[12:57] <DarkTrick> hm... would be nice if the update mechanism had a "download and update later"-functionality like on ios
[12:59] <oerheks> there is a setting for that, in updates settings
[12:59] <oerheks> when there are security updates > download automaticly
[13:03] <vlt> MapMan: Does the slack app know and use the CSRF token?
[13:04] <tomreyn> MapMan: system logs can be viewed using the journalctl command. other than that, this sounds a lot more like a django / pthon question. you'll probably find separate channels here on freenode for those. ask !alis is needed.
[13:26] <anarhist> hello, how do i file a bug? when i do ubuntu-bug package, in the browser i get "invalid open-id"
[13:26] <anarhist> it used to work
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> anarhist: what is the issue about exactly?
[13:28] <anarhist> lincity-ng doesn't start. it tries to create a directory, but creates a file
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> anarhist: wich ubuntu version does it happen on?
[13:28] <anarhist> 18.04
[13:29] <anarhist> i know that bugs are not fixed lately normally ppl just wait until support ends and they mark them with 'won't fix'
[13:29] <anarhist> but i thought that maybe something will happen and that'll change
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> anarhist: ubuntu-bug lincity-ng
[13:31] <anarhist> that's what i did
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> anarhist: you got a launchpad account?
[13:31] <anarhist> yes, but it doesn't ask me to enter it
[13:31] <anarhist> Invalid OpenID transaction
[13:31] <anarhist> i just get that error and that's it
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> anarhist: i just tryed it on 20.04 and it loops me back to desktop with a small resolution, is that what happens for you?
[13:39] <anarhist> are you talking about lincity or ubuntu-bug?
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> lincity
[13:39] <anarhist> no, for me it doesn't start
[13:39] <anarhist> 1 sec, i'll show you
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> hmm ok, different bug then
[13:40] <anarhist> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/Przmh7e2
[13:41] <anarhist> it creates an empty file and then gets upset that it is not a directory
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> anarhist: you installed lincity from their site instead of the repos?
[13:41] <anarhist> sudo apt-get install lincity-ng
[13:42] <anarhist> otherwise i would not try to report it to ubuntu
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> !info lincity-ng bionic
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> lemme reboot holdon
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> Anarchic: try a new LP account?
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> anarhist: ^
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> anarhist: try to delete: ~/.lincity-ng and re-run the game
[13:54] <anarhist> it just does that, that is why i did first ls
[13:54] <anarhist> to show that it's not there
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> anarhist: seems like an older bug: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/59680
[14:17] <snowhawk> hello
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> welcome snowhawk
[14:17] <snowhawk> whats up?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> support is up snowhawk
[14:18] <snowhawk> I am trying to find a reliable thumb drive and a tool kit to open up my Mac
[14:18] <snowhawk> https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Essential-Electronics-Toolkit/IF145-348?o=2
[14:18] <snowhawk> found this so far, unless i can find a better deal somewhere else
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> snowhawk: try ##hardware perhaps
[14:18] <snowhawk> i did
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> snowhawk: we can only take ubuntu issues here, hope you understand
[14:26] <snowhawk> Why do you guys prefer Ubuntu over other distros?
[14:26] <Psi-Jack> Personal choice.
[14:26] <snowhawk> whats better though?
[14:27] <Psi-Jack> "better" is one's own opinion.
[14:27] <snowhawk> and i guess you can install KDE ?
[14:27] <snowhawk> or Enlightenment E17
[14:27] <akem_> Large community and tutorials, good support, lots of packages.
[14:27] <snowhawk> Ever run Ubuntu on a Macbook?
[14:28] <snowhawk> I tried running it in VirtualBox, but I dont have enough RAM
[14:28] <Psi-Jack> Do you have an Ubuntu actual question? This is an Ubuntu channel.
[14:28] <snowhawk> i was just wondering about the operating system
[14:29] <snowhawk> and games support
[14:34] <uebera||> Hi. Can someone explain the rationale behind "The current version must *and two or more previous versions of a file should be available* if support for by-hash is indicated with the Acquire-By-Hash in the Release file." to me? (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Format#indices_acquisition_via_hashsums_.28by-hash.29)
[14:34] <uebera||> I don't see a use case here… (cross-posted from #debian in the hope that it reaches different eyes, sorry.)
[14:45] <tomreyn> uebera||: if you'll be sorry for posting something off-topic here then just don't post it in the first place, so you don't need to be sorry.
[15:20] <eelstrebor> i've been trying find a way to upgrade or roll back a distro without creating all these permissions and file ownership and users and group issues. doesn't appear to be a way to do so. so i spend the better part of the day manually fixing these issues. sometimes 2 days.
[15:21]  * eelstrebor wouldn't have had to roll back if could've got printing to work on 20.04 (as well as other issues)
[15:22] <eelstrebor> besides, a fresh upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 caused all those file and ownership permission issuses just like when i upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04
[15:24] <isene> Upgrading from 19.10 to 20.04 on my Dell XPS15 using update-manager - toward the end of "Installing the upgrades" it stops at "EFI boot entry: Input/output error." and I cannot get past that. How to fix?
[15:24]  * eelstrebor guesses he'll have to wait for 20.04.X to come out - but the hassle.........
[15:27] <isene> Here's the errors I encounter: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jxwYJJncnH/
[15:28] <isene> Any help to circumvent this issue would be highly appreciated - as this is my working machine and I don't want to leave it midway in an install like this...
[15:30] <isene> I should add that I have had efi-issues when doing regular apt-get upgrades - and then I run this script and all is well: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yKhQc8MCDF/
[15:33] <isene> Do I terminate the upgrade, run that script and go back to the upgrade? Or is that to risky?
[15:36] <ThinkT510> eelstrebor: perhaps a backup would be prudent before attempting an upgrade so it would be much easier to restore it to what it was if anything goes wrong
[15:36] <eelstrebor> ThinkT510, did that
[15:38] <eelstrebor> trying to find a way to restore users after a fresh install without having to manually recreate them also. simply backing up the passwd and group files and restoring them is no help
[15:39] <ThinkT510> eelstrebor: i was thinking more of an image backup (such as using dd) so restoring would be as simple as issuing a dd
[15:41] <eelstrebor> ThinkT510, that takes a really long time to do with a 4TB drive but I'll have to do that since it'll take less time to restore and i won't have to sit in front of the pc for hours on end typing on a keyboard
[15:42] <ThinkT510> eelstrebor: yes, the caveats are time and space but the simplicity does remove much of the headache
[15:44] <eelstrebor> ThinkT510, but that won't help much on a fresh upgrade like going from 18.04 to 20.04
[15:45]  * eelstrebor might just change from bionic to focal in sources.list and upgrade that way
[15:48] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: you should need to restore the /etc/shadow file for the passwords to be the same
[15:49] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: or at least, the entries from the shadow file. I do not recommend just copying over the password, group or shadow files from another system
[15:49] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: it's pretty trivial to script creation of users and restoring from backup
[15:52] <eelstrebor> i'll have to give that a try and hopefully get they done before any more attempts to upgrade
[15:52] <Sven_vB> would it make sense to have each manual sudo attempt be approved by another computer on the LAN? so someone would have to hack both at the same time to escalate privileges.
[15:55] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: you want #ubuntu-security for such discussions
[15:55] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, thanks!
[15:55] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: but a quick answer would be, look into 2fa: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/configure-ssh-2fa#1-overview
[15:56]  * eelstrebor wonders if he mentioned that virtualbox didn't work properly on 20.04......
[15:57] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: This is a support channel. If you'd like help with an issue, please ask for helping resolving 1 issue at a time. To rant or discuss Ubuntu, feel free to go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:34] <Helenah1> How do I remove the static warranty notice from the bottom of the MOTD?
[16:34] <Helenah1> I'm trying to set a custom MOTD because it doesn't get seen...
[16:35] <Helenah1> s/because/but
[16:37] <leftyfb> Helenah1: /etc/default/motd-news ... change "ENABLED" to 0
[16:37] <frad> .
[16:39] <Helenah1> leftyfb: No, I don't want to disable the dynamic MOTD feature, I want to remove the static warranty notice that is shown last.
[16:41] <leftyfb> Helenah1: look in /etc/update-motd.d/
[16:42] <Helenah1> I already have been playing around in /etc/update-motd.d, it only contains files for the dynamic MOTD feature, none of them contain a warranty notice.
[16:42] <Sven_vB> does ubuntu come with a default read-only empty directory for user accounts that shall not have home directory?
[16:43] <ioria> Helenah1, maybe is in /etc/legal ( but honestly no idea)
[16:43] <Sven_vB> or should I just put "/"?
[16:44] <Helenah1> Damn, why didn't I see that?!
[16:44] <Helenah1> o.o
[16:44] <Helenah1> Like... that filename is self-descriptive...
[16:44] <Helenah1> ioria: Thank you very much, I'm going to see if removing that file will remove the notice.
[16:44] <Sven_vB> interesting. is that file read by getty?
[16:44] <Helenah1> Sven_vB: I'll tell you in a minute
[16:44] <ioria> Helenah1, mv it maybe, not remove
[16:45] <Sven_vB> my getty man page doesn't list it
[16:45] <Sven_vB> oh it doesn't list "motd" at all
[16:45] <Helenah1> ioria: Yes, whenever a user logs into... that file is read and displayed.
[16:45] <Helenah1> ioria: Thank you once again! :)
[16:46] <ioria> Helenah1, ok, np
[17:11] <amosbird_> Hi, what's the best way to apply this patch to current running kernel ?  https://raw.githubusercontent.com/da-cali/linux-x1-tablet/master/trackpoint.patch
[17:12] <zutat> better not apply it to a running kernel
[17:13] <amosbird_> can I have it compiled to a new module ?
[17:13] <amosbird_> I don't want to replace the entire kernel
[17:13] <amosbird_> and is there a way to have the module work after kernel update?
[17:13] <amosbird_> ...
[17:29] <donofrio> what does it mean when rsycn cannot sycn 1.5 gb anymore but when you make it 1.4 gb then it works, was working with larger files now not
[18:00] <DerHorst> donofrio: any error message?
[18:12] <pa> hi
[18:13] <pa> is there a way, or a ppa, with ffmpeg with qsv (quicksync video) acceleration?
[18:13] <pa> since it's present on 90% of the pc, it would make sense if it had ..
[18:13] <pa> i found instructions for building it from source, but it's overwhelming..
[18:13] <pa> shouldn't it be default, in ubuntu?
[18:14] <pa> or isn't it because it relies on proprietary code?
[18:25] <birdman007> what is the best way to do full disk encryption if ive already installed ubuntu
[18:27] <Xard> snap packages don't seem to get access to alsa midi sequencer even if connected to not audio but alsa
[18:27] <sarnold> Xard: please do file bug reports on those things, I really wouldn't be surprised if you're the first to think of it ;)
[18:28] <eelstrebor> leftyfb, fine - i'll just leave if i can't provide info or feedback - the fact is that ubuntu 20.04 was ready for issue and things like that cause a lot of grief for people - and yes i've been known to donate money to help develop ubuntu - goodbye
[18:28] <sarnold> birdman007: copy off the data you want, reinstall, copy the data back
[18:28] <eelstrebor> ubuntu 20.04 was NOT ready
[18:28] <Xard> (as a side note managed to get vulkan working for a snap package after some fiddling)
[18:29] <Xard> though which would be the place to do these reports?
[19:23] <Guest84182> in ubuntu, what is a good way to throttle my gpu. My screen is turning white periodically, and it seems to get worse the colder my laptop is.
[19:23] <Guest84182> I have a monero miner going but that is only the cpu
[19:54] <corshmock> Hello Folks.  I hope you are all very well today
[19:55] <corshmock> Would anyone know of a decent OneDrive client for 20.04 ?
[19:56] <sarnold> there's a 'onedrive' package; is it decent?
[19:56] <corshmock> Thanks sarnold, would you know of any links?  If it's decent :)
[19:57] <snowhawk> hey
[19:58] <sarnold> corshmock: the Homepage: field lists https://github.com/abraunegg/onedrive
[20:02] <tomreyn> that's not the one which is in ubuntu unfortunately
[20:02] <sarnold> o_O
[20:02] <tomreyn> its a fork of what's in ubuntu
[20:03] <snowhawk> hey
[20:03] <snowhawk> how long does it take to load youtube.com for you guys?
[20:03] <snowhawk> it takes me like 5-7 seconds. is that normal?
[20:03] <sarnold> probably, it's an insanely heavy webpage
[20:04] <tomreyn> snowhawk: it could be, depending on a couple factors including your hardware, resource allocation, and network connectivity
[20:04] <snowhawk> i am hoping it will load faster once i get an SSD and more RAM
[20:06] <tomreyn> and sorry, i was wrong about "not the one in ubuntu", the newer ubuntu releases do track the abraunegg fork. i was looking at bionic which still has the original https://github.com/skilion/onedrive
[20:07] <tomreyn> snowhawk: how much ram do you have now, which ubuntu release and graphical desktop are you running?
[20:07] <tomreyn> oh 20.04 for the release, i guess.
[20:07] <snowhawk> I'm not running Ubuntu yet, but I plan on it
[20:07] <snowhawk> I have a Mac with 4gb ram
[20:07] <tomreyn> oh ok
[20:07] <snowhawk> and a normal hdd
[20:08] <tomreyn> 4 gb ram is just the bare minimum. and i don't know how well the mac will work, depends.
[20:08] <tomreyn> definitely replace the hdd *if you can*
[20:09] <snowhawk> im buying an SSD, RAM (16gb) .. usb drive, and a tool kit ….tonight
[20:09] <sarnold> snowhawk: you'll love life with more ssd andmore ram, but my nvme system with 16 gigs, and gigabit fibre, still takes ~six seconds to load the youtube frontpage. it's a terrible experience.
[20:09] <snowhawk> but the new SSD should help with webpages opening?
[20:09] <snowhawk> really?
[20:09] <snowhawk> that makes me feel better.
[20:09] <snowhawk> i was feeling outdated with this hardware
[20:10] <sarnold> yeah, I think youtube devs don't ever use their thing at their parent's house :)
[20:10] <snowhawk> but if it takes that long for you to load youtube, i feel better
[20:10] <EriC^^> ssd definitely is nice, but i dont think it will load any pages quicker, might get firefox to start up quicker though
[20:11] <snowhawk> i deal with a LOT of icon bounces
[20:11] <EriC^^> those icons that show instead of pictures til they load?
[20:11] <bluejaypop> I'm trying to use a pc as router gw with 2 eth cards, but something is not working. I have in the main eth card a IP already setup and with internet, 2nd with 1st IP of the different subnet already setup, I added another pc and trying to use the main IP of 2nd NIC from my pc router as GW but is not working i'm not getting internet on 2nd pc.
[20:11] <bluejaypop> Someone can point me to the right direction? this is ubuntu server 20.04 LTS
[20:12] <EriC^^> bluejaypop: i think you have to set it in the network manager to share connection with other connections
[20:12] <sarnold> bluejaypop: did you set the sysctl to allow ip forwarding?
[20:12] <bluejaypop> sarnold, yes
[20:12] <snowhawk> firefix seems to load pages faster
[20:13] <snowhawk> but the last time it took 8 seconds to load youtube homepage
[20:13] <EriC^^> bluejaypop: click edit connection on the connection that's between the 2 pc's and set it to shared to other computers instead of auto dhcp
[20:14] <sarnold> snowhawk: how about *fast* webpages? eg https://zfsonlinux.org/ ?
[20:14] <bluejaypop> EriC^^, I have no graphics. But I can follow up.
[20:15] <EriC^^> bluejaypop: maybe this is helpful https://makandracards.com/makandra/46300-ubuntu-share-internet-connections-with-other-computers
[20:16] <bluejaypop> let me check thnk you
[20:16] <snowhawk> yea, everything seems to load fast except youtube
[20:31] <bluejaypop> EriC^^, i tried and i see the pings from 2nd PC to the router PC, but I don't see router PC reply back to PC 1
[20:33] <EriC^^> bluejaypop: maybe there is some firewall rules in play?
[20:34] <EriC^^> bluejaypop: if nobody here knows, there is also ##networking here on freenode
[20:34] <bluejaypop> i did but no reply :/
[20:35] <sarnold> bluejaypop: does ip route get  on various IP addresses onthe various hosts give output you expect?
[20:42] <bluejaypop> sarnold, i think i found the problem: 20:41:06.057473 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.100.195 tell 192.168.90.192, length 28
[20:43] <bluejaypop> that's what tcpdump shows when i want to ping from .195 (pc example) to 192 (router pc)
[20:43] <sarnold> bluejaypop: heh, I was going to ask if the arp tables all looked sane but apaprently arp(8) isn't the recommended tool any more, and I can't find what replaced it..
[20:43] <sarnold> bluejaypop: do both machines have proper network address and CIDR?
[20:43] <bluejaypop> yes
[20:44] <tomreyn> ip neigh
[20:44]  * sarnold socially-distantly hugs tomreyn
[20:44] <sarnold> thanks :D
[20:44] <tomreyn> :)
[20:45] <bluejaypop> this is the scenario: i have 2 IPs from DC, 1 is for vmware server and 2nd is another ip in same subnet, but I asked for more IPs and they gave me different subnet, so I created a VM router pc with 2 NIC, I have now internet correctly in the VM router but on VM test i'm not getting internet, so I assume the problem is the ARP table.
[20:48] <tomreyn> you might need proxy_arp - but first of all check with the DC as to which gateways you should be using and whether prxying arp is ok with them
[20:49] <tomreyn> basically they should be able to tell you what you need to do to achieve what you're after
[20:50] <bluejaypop> yes i think i will open a TT
[21:28] <odp> looking to buy an nvidia video card. is there a way i can confirm drivers are available?
[21:33] <sarnold> odp: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/159360/en-us
[21:33] <sarnold> odp: there's a handful of nvidia driver versions packaged in ubuntu
[21:34] <sarnold> odp: nvidia apparently is agressive in dropping support for old hardware, so if you're buying, it might be worth sticking to the newer end of that supported hardware list
[21:34] <odp> thanks sarnold
[21:35] <odp> the card i'm looking at is on here
[22:21] <metbsd> https://pasteboard.co/Jb8dCGE.jpg
[22:21] <metbsd> help
[22:21] <alexa> Hello, dear fellows
[22:21] <metbsd> does ubuntu really support lvm installation?
[22:21] <alexa> May I ask a question regarding Conky?
[22:22] <guntbert> !ask | alexa
[22:22] <sarnold> alexa: you can ask, maybe someone else uses conky
[22:22] <alexa> why is my conky different when started with system startup than when I manually start it?
[22:22] <alexa> I have YES to both draw_outline and draw_shades — none of them appear when started with the system.
[22:22] <sarnold> metbsd: yes, I did an lvm install on ubuntu server on my power9 machine a fwe weeks ago..
[22:23] <alexa> Otherwise told, it looks like Conky makes different between User and System. Cause when the user starts it, it works well. When started by the system, some features lack.
[22:52] <sveinse> I'm trying to run ubuntu 20.04 on a VB VM, and I'm getting lots of hash sum mismatches on apt update. What can I do to avoid them?
[22:54] <sarnold> sveinse: the usual cause is crummy proxies, quite often run by ISPs that don't tell you what they're doing
[22:54] <sarnold> sveinse: are you running a caching proxy? is your isp?
[22:56] <sveinse> sarnold: I'm using the no.archive.ubuntu.com mirror. I also tried changing to the se.archive.ubuntu.com, but that didn't help
[22:57] <sveinse> sarnold: What is the official URL to use there?
[22:57] <sarnold> sveinse: archive.ubuntu.com
[22:58] <sveinse> sarnold: thanks. same failure there
[22:59] <sarnold> sveinse: try this one instead https://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu/
[22:59] <sarnold> sveinse: using https may be able to defeat silly caching proxies
[23:01] <leftyfb> sveinse: check the date/time on the VM
[23:02] <sveinse> sarnold: for the latter first: I evidently don't have update CAcerts, because https does not work due to cert error. I'll try the alternate repo. Time and date on VM is fine
[23:02] <sarnold> sveinse: hmm..
[23:03] <sarnold> sveinse: there's a workaround on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates/+bug/1881533 for the cert issue
[23:03] <sarnold> sveinse: or you could download the update by hand https://usn.ubuntu.com/4377-1/
[23:06] <sveinse> sarnold: uhmmmmm. I *have* ca-certificates 20190110ubuntu1.1 already installed. I think this VM is completely bonkers. Let me start over.
[23:06] <sarnold> sveinse: oooooookay, that's crazy
[23:07] <sarnold> sveinse: another cause of hash sum mistmatches that I see every few years is tcp offloading
[23:07] <sarnold> sveinse: it's drastically less common than apt-cacher-ng or ISP-provided proxies, but it still happens..,
[23:08] <sveinse> sarnold: or that the installer crashed at some cruical part while installing, leaving the system in a strange state
[23:08] <sarnold> sveinse: heh, I see bug reports from that every few days, but not usually hash sum mismatches due to it
[23:13] <sveinse> Heh, "installer crashed" on the second try. Yup, something fishy here.
[23:15] <sarnold> o_O
[23:15] <sarnold> is there anythiung in dmesg on either host or guest?
[23:16] <tds> sveinse: fwiw, openssl and gnutls handle those expiry issues differently - I think apt uses gnutls which handles it particularly badly?
[23:17] <tds> without having tested, i wouldn't be surprised if it still fails if the server is sending you back an expired cert in the chain; you could test directly with gnutls-cli or something
[23:26] <Sbur3> I've noticed in my menu of programs in Ubuntu a load of things that are blue rectangles with "LSP" on them.  How do I get rid of them?  Or do I need them?
[23:39] <sveinse> sarnold: third run installed ok and apt updated completely fine, so I'll cross my fingers and hope it'll keep that way. Thanks. (I got to go for other tasks.)
[23:39] <snowhawk> anyone here dual boot?
[23:39] <sarnold> sveinse: aha, cool, I hope this one works fine :)
[23:39] <sveinse> snowhawk: I do
[23:39] <snowhawk> which operating systems?
[23:39] <sveinse> snowhawk: Win10 and 18.04 and 20.04
[23:40] <snowhawk> How do you like the latest version of Ubuntu?
[23:41] <sveinse> It's great. This is on my dev machine, so I use it for daily work.
[23:41] <snowhawk> What all do you use it for?
[23:41] <snowhawk> i cant really see it playing games, like windows can
[23:43] <sveinse> snowhawk: I don't play on it no. My use is pretty simple: browser, console, vscode for development, lot and lot of python. Spotify for music which works nice with snap
[23:45] <sveinse> If I shall be completely honest, Windows has become increasingly unix/linux/posix-friendly lately, so I tend to stay longer and longer in Win10. And I do find the same work and dev environment there as I do on linux. -ish.
[23:45] <sveinse> But I am a Linux user by heart btw
[23:47] <sveinse> E.g. I hate it when Win ppl answer "we've got powershell" when I express a pity for Windows being the only platform that doesn't have a native (ba)sh. But, I'm digressing into OT. I'm done.
[23:49] <snowhawk> What do you guys think about dual booting macOS/Linux
[23:49] <snowhawk> or maybe just a virtualbox for linux to live in
[23:55] <alexeightsix> i use linux for work (coding) and win10 for games only.. best of both worlds
[23:58] <leftyfb> !ot | snowhawk
[23:58] <corshmock> Hello Folks