 @Javacookies [sorry but I really don't see having a setting happen unless someone who likes it …], because im happy hacking it, and have no idea how to make the gsetting, or write unit tests for it
 @matv1 [That echo is weird cause I dont have that on the Oneplus 3.], 3t, and they say it only happens on the us model 3000
 Geary works ok in Libertine already but its gui certainly is not suited for phone use - Maybe this development would allow it to be a viable alternative to Dekko2 in UT https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/06/geary-responsive-interface
[03:21] <ubptgbot> Tiago Souza was added by: Tiago Souza
 @markvesime [Tommaso you need another tool called Xperifirm. It didn't work for me on linux, …], Works on Ubuntu too. No Windows involved here. 😉
 @wayneTBT [Sorry, maybe I was unclear in my Question.  I need to flash the phone with Andro …], You need to run Xperifirm download from within the flashtool. That way it downloads and extracts the image for flashing.
 Otherwise I could not get the downloaded image be "restructured" to be accepted by the flashtool.
 @TotalSonic [Geary works ok in Libertine already but its gui certainly is not suited for phon …], this is the effect of Librem 5 and the PInephone … developers are now inclined to support mobile UI and hopefully UT will benefit as well once wayland is fully working and maybe flatpak/snap
 @Javacookies [this is the effect of Librem 5 and the PInephone … developers are now inclined to …], yeah - very nice to see their efforts, even if I am glad to have not pre-ordered the very long delayed Librem 5.
 @TotalSonic [Geary works ok in Libertine already but its gui certainly is not suited for phon …], what is it ?? os??
 @parasparihar5 [what is it ?? os??], no, Geary is a desktop Linux email client app.  Libertine is allows us to use standard desktop apps that have armhf or arm64 deb installation packages on UT
 @parasparihar5 [what is it ?? os??], [Edit] no, Geary is a desktop Linux email client app.  Libertine is a container that allows us to use standard desktop apps that have armhf or arm64 deb installation packages on UT
 @TotalSonic [no, Geary is a desktop Linux email client app.  Libertine is a container that al …], so bro can i install any deb file on Ubuntu ??
[06:52] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @dohbee [http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/install.html], Hi Rodney, i downloaded the installer from the link you sent. Will this graphical installer unlock the bootloader of my OnePlus 1?
 No it doesnt. Bootloader unlocking process is different for each device.
[06:55] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @jonny [No it doesnt. Bootloader unlocking process is different for each device.], Hi Jonatan, where do i find this information? Rodney said I can do that with my ubuntu PC.
 I dont know if there is a central place to go to. But usually you find them looking for your device on xda. … https://www.xda-developers.com/
 Hi Federica if you want to join there is an italian ubports group @ubportsitaliano
[08:16] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @mymike00 [Hi Federica if you want to join there is an italian ubports group @ubportsitalia …], 👍
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOZspNM9lIw
[08:20] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @jonny [I dont know if there is a central place to go to. But usually you find them look …], hi Jonatan, thanks. But from the ubports website and instructions it isn’t mentioned that i should unlock the bootloader nor set developer mode, they just say run the installer 🤔🤔. OP1 is one of the 100% supported devices....like nexus5 a
[08:20] <ubptgbot> nd FP 2.
 @Federica Galli [hi Jonatan, thanks. But from the ubports website and instructions it isn’t menti …], The installer should explain the steps that need to be done before flashing UT. You are right, maybe not ideal. This has been discussed, but we did not got around to change things yet. 😇
 How long should the UBports Installer (0.4.18-beta) says 'Flashing firmware... … Flashing firmware partitions using fastboot' for?
 [Edit] How long should the UBports Installer (0.4.18-beta) say 'Flashing firmware... … Flashing firmware partitions using fastboot' for?
 @Federica Galli [hi Jonatan, thanks. But from the ubports website and instructions it isn’t menti …], its to be done in a combination of andriod developer option 'oem unlock' and a command on linux/win shell 'fastboot oem unlock'. Maybe you can find more in the forum of the vendor oneplus or on xda-developer. It has to be done for cus
[09:35] <ubptgbot> tom android roms too.
 @Federica Galli [hi Jonatan, thanks. But from the ubports website and instructions it isn’t menti …], [Edit] its to be done in a combination of android developer option 'oem unlock' and a command on linux/win shell 'fastboot oem unlock'. Maybe you can find more in the forum of the vendor oneplus or on xda-developer. It has to be done
[09:35] <ubptgbot> for custom android roms too.
 (Photo, 1920x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/9zB4wNEy.png
 So I managed to get to installing ubports on my Sony Xperia X f5122 and it looked like it was going to the phone.  However Im now left with a bootlooping Xperia.
 I welcome any thoughts...
 The phone seems to start itself up to the Sony screen before sending files to the device, then it cannot send files.
 Hmmm
 Have you read the forum post regarding the xperia?
 Any idea why I can sign in to git lab on other devices but get this odd error on UT devices? Same on the OPO and the Pi.
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/ekhmjfVE.png
 @Fuseteam [Have you read the forum post regarding the xperia?], Yes, but maybe I should dig down through the comments.
 @SenorBinario [Is there a difference between OnePlus 3 and OnePlus 3t?], idk i think the 3t is somewhat faster?
 @MenmuirMark [<reply to media>], Press F to pay respect for gitlab
[11:21] <ubptgbot> <Francisco Redford> (Photo, 511x765) https://irc.ubports.com/083l0vj1.png WOw
 @MenmuirMark [Any idea why I can sign in to git lab on other devices but get this odd error on …], Two factor authentication?
 @Stereofont [Two factor authentication?], Just standard authentication.
 @Javacookies [<reply to media>], I've just set mine up so that when nothings open, the launcher is automatically open :)
 @PhoenixLandPirate [I've just set mine up so that when nothings open, the launcher is automatically …], what do you mean? that's the default behavior right?
 @MenmuirMark [Any idea why I can sign in to git lab on other devices but get this odd error on …], It was mentioned in the QA group - I should have checked there first. … This bug has been around for a couple of weeks and may be due to a Gitlab change that does not play well with Morph.
 @jedi2light [Press F to pay respect for gitlab], Had to look that up (not a gamer) :)
 @Javacookies [what do you mean? that's the default behavior right?], IDK, I've seen people on the "desktop" without the launcher on the left showing, so I thought maybe it was a setting I enabled in UTTT ages ago, but you might be right. :)
 there's one but it only takes effect when in windowed mode
 who here likes using painting apps or games that uses swiping and find the left and right edge gestures irritating?  … I might have a solution for you! 😁 … sign up for a beta testing 😂
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/j0pXpIYZ.png
 If I close all my apps or whatever it looks like this, in phone mode.
 @PhoenixLandPirate [<reply to media>], What the anime?)
 I think its the autohide option in UTTT?
 A, valhalaa
 Got it
 Played a bit
 Its a good background cos it looks great in portrate and landscape.
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/XmrF0Atc.png
 @PhoenixLandPirate [<reply to media>], that's the defauly behavior. the one in UTTT is only for windowed mode
 Hello, just set UTouch on my Nexus 5. Created a testing Libertine container yesterday night. Result, I am still having the "work in progress" circle on the right.
 @Javacookies [who here likes using painting apps or games that uses swiping and find the left …], 🙋🏻‍♂️
 Is it normal?
 @mymike00 [🙋🏻‍♂️], what device do you have?
 @Javacookies [what device do you have?], pinephone and n5
 @mymike00 [pinephone and n5], which phone are you willing to sacrifice? 😂
 pinephone 😉
 @Anghirrim [Hello, just set UTouch on my Nexus 5. Created a testing Libertine container yest …], Tap the circle. That should bring up a text window with terminal output. It can take hours depending on bandwidth and ram.
 @Javacookies [who here likes using painting apps or games that uses swiping and find the left …], I don't have those problems, but I am curios and have a second device. So I am in for beta device-breaking. 😎 If E5is fine.
 @Danfro [Tap the circle. That should bring up a text window with terminal output. It can …], Seems not....
 (Video, 4s) https://irc.ubports.com/WNm1Xu06.mp4
 @Danfro [I don't have those problems, but I am curios and have a second device. So I am i …], okay that's cool, I haven't tested it on E5
 @Anghirrim [Seems not....], Hm. Sorry. It used to be like that. But it was some time ago that I tried last time. Was worth a try.
 @wayneTBT [So I managed to get to installing ubports on my Sony Xperia X f5122 and it looke …], If anyone is interested on how I resolved this issue, I flashed TWRP onto the phone,  wiped all caches with TWRP, rebooted and the UT image pushed to the device successfully.  This was mentioned in the post.
 Sounds familiar. This seems to be a common solution then.
 @Anghirrim [Seems not....], whenever you are installing a package into a Libertine container you are obliged to keep the screen alive for the whole process. There is an app in OpenStore which provides to you this ability. If the screen goes black unfortunately the installation goes into an infinite loop....
 this ——> https://open-store.io/app/activescreen.mivoligo
 @mattbel10 [whenever you are installing a package into a Libertine container you are obliged …], Even when creating the container?
 @Anghirrim [Even when creating the container?], I think so, yes
 or maybe settings app should just be exempted from suspension 😄
 @Javacookies [or maybe settings app should just be exempted from suspension 😄], or this ^^^^ :)
 @Javacookies [or maybe settings app should just be exempted from suspension 😄], I guess this is not done at user level?
 Installed the screen on app, and updating the contained
 [Edit] Installed the screen on app, and updating the container
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/1wBW58hd.png
 @Anghirrim [I guess this is not done at user level?], you can do it via the tweak tool but in my opinion it should not suspend by default since it has some processes like libertine and downloading/installing updates … there are preinstalled apps that does it by default anyway
 Seems it is updating
[13:06] <ubptgbot> Pramod was added by: Pramod
 OK, was able ton install thunderbird
[13:21] <ubptgbot> lamyxidetype6475 was added by: lamyxidetype6475
[13:53] <Fuseteam> whew looks like the bridge is back
 Thanks so much to all who helped me get UT installed on the Xperia X, greatly appreciated.  Also thanks to all the app developers for the apps I installed on the device.  Incredible work folks.
[14:13] <ubptgbot> nuguseshyhisha2967 was added by: nuguseshyhisha2967
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/UNH0P8IK.png Screenshot (4 juin 2020 16:13:34)
 I can't find this "Desktop apps scope".... Where is it supposed to be?
 App icons aren't displayed in Desktop Apps scope | UBports Forum … http://forums.ubports.com/topic/3921/app-icons-aren-t-displayed-in-desktop-apps-scope
 you can't use scopes on the lastest OTA
 someone kindhearted should update the wiki 😄
 @mimecar [you can't use scopes on the lastest OTA], Ahhhhhhh
 So, can only launch Libertine apps using terminal?
[14:29] <Fuseteam> no they should just show up in the app drawer
 @Anghirrim [So, can only launch Libertine apps using terminal?], try pulling and releasin in the app drawer if you still can't see the libertine appe
 @Javacookies [try pulling and releasin in the app drawer if you still can't see the libertine …], OK thanks, because I can't launch it.
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/wfStE6FU.png
 Maybe export DISPLAY:=0
 But i guess there no runnng x server on UT
 Pulling the drawer did the trick
 @Anghirrim [OK thanks, because I can't launch it.], Libertine apps are displayed in the app drawer.
 @imraniqbal [Libertine apps are displayed in the app drawer.], It wasn't visible until I pull it down.
 But Libertine apps need physical keyboard and mouse??
 @Anghirrim [It wasn't visible until I pull it down.], At least you got there in the end!
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/LWimN0zL.png
 😂
 @Anghirrim [But Libertine apps need physical keyboard and mouse??], They are desktop apps without any added features. So yes, unless they provide a touch interface.
 @Anghirrim [<reply to media>], Thats the way to go.
 And now you only need to connect you device to a wireless screen to have the full power.
 OMG... Chromecast support in UBTouch?
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/DVf08OVm.webp
 @Anghirrim [OMG... Chromecast support in UBTouch?], Connecting to wirless displays is supposed to work for some devices. But I couln't get it working yet with my Xperia X.
 @Anghirrim [But Libertine apps need physical keyboard and mouse??], Check this list for useful Libertine apps: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4314/favourite-libertine-apps/2.
 @Danfro [Connecting to wirless displays is supposed to work for some devices. But I couln …], Miracast should be OK, but Chromecast without Google Services may fail
 @imraniqbal [Check this list for useful Libertine apps: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4314 …], Thanks
 @Anghirrim [Miracast should be OK, but Chromecast without Google Services may fail], Tbh I don't know which protokoll that is using. I only see the setting and have heard others that it should be possible. 🤓
 There is also a Libertine Tweak Tool in the OpenStore that you might find useful.
 hello
 where to buy the pinephone now?
 any ideas?
 Is there any way the front hardware button of the M10 tablet family can one day be leveraged by our OS?
 Do I recall some memory of something which would prohibit that?
 @~$ [any ideas?], about two weeks ago I asked this question in this channel and I was told the current batch is sold out.
 Would it be possible to setup Ubuntu 19.10 + Ubuntu-Touch similar to what MaruOS has done? … https://maruos.com/
 @TartanSpartan [Is there any way the front hardware button of the M10 tablet family can one day …], the home button doesn't work? it works on other phones like here my Mx4. I just tried it and realized haven't used for a long time 😄
 @OVSCADMIN [Would it be possible to setup Ubuntu 19.10 + Ubuntu-Touch similar to what MaruOS …], no and ubuntu 19.10 is end of life this month anyway
 @dohbee [no and ubuntu 19.10 is end of life this month anyway], I was just using that as an example...
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/uCjiGdhf.png
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Eh0Zw0X7.png
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/62edF0EK.png
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/tSs6eafP.png
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/zY4EELxr.png
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Yz9gvJca.png
 (Photo, 622x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/mRiRHNkD.png
 @dohbee [no and ubuntu 19.10 is end of life this month anyway], Did you even check their site?
 @OVSCADMIN [I was just using that as an example...], don't spam screenshots in here
 @OVSCADMIN [Did you even check their site?], i know what maruos is. it's been around forever. no, that is not what Ubuntu Touch will ever do
 the whole point of ubuntu touch is that you do not need different interfaces between phone/tablet/pc
[17:41] <ubptgbot> SHi√∆M was added by: SHi√∆M
 Is it possible for anyone to provide me the download link ubuntu touch for redmi note 7 for beta testing if it is available?
 And can we run desktop ubuntu applications in the ubuntu touch?
 @SHi√∆M [And can we run desktop ubuntu applications in the ubuntu touch?], libertine provides a method for running legacy applications. it doesn't magically make them usable or useful  on a phone though
 Do I have to enable a kernel patch for Libertine?
 @SHi√∆M [And can we run desktop ubuntu applications in the ubuntu touch?], I tried firefox and R. if the apt-get command retrieves the source code and compiles OK on your machine, you are good to go. So it really depends on the application.
 @mintphin [Do I have to enable a kernel patch for Libertine?], no
 @real_ysh [I tried firefox and R. if the apt-get command retrieves the source code and comp …], Okay thanks...
 @dohbee [libertine provides a method for running legacy applications. it doesn't magicall …], Thanks you tooo
 @real_ysh [I tried firefox and R. if the apt-get command retrieves the source code and comp …], apt-get doesn't compile from source... it downloads and uncompresses binaries and config files.
 @mintphin [apt-get doesn't compile from source... it downloads and uncompresses binaries an …], You are right. I should have said "the gcc in libertine compiles ... “
 @real_ysh [You are right. I should have said "the gcc in libertine compiles ... “], no. but you can install gcc in libertine if you need to compile things on the phone
 if a package is available for ubuntu 16.04 on the phone's architecture, it can be installed there
 Has someone ported a new device only using a Ubuntu Phone?
 @mintphin [Has someone ported a new device only using a Ubuntu Phone?], a PC is required for building android, so i doubt it
 Ah.
 Anyone with experience flashing UT on OPO with LineageOS? … I assumed that it was rooted and with bootloader unlocked. The AppImage installed successfully but I'm stuck on a bootloop.
[18:15] <poVoq> you probably need to flash a custom recovery like TWRP
[18:16] <poVoq> just a guess thogh
 @uamoti [Anyone with experience flashing UT on OPO with LineageOS? … I assumed that it was …], I had a similar issue with the Xperia X today.  Boot into TWRP and wipe all the caches, davlik, system etc... and reflash UT using the UBports installer.  At least this worked for me.
 Sorry, I assumed your custom recovery was TWRP, if its not, flash that to the phone for the wipe.
 [Edit] Sorry, I assumed your custom recovery was TWRP, if its not, flash that to the phone for the wipe features.
[18:34] <ubptgbot> LIFELIKE83 was added by: LIFELIKE83
 @Javacookies [the home button doesn't work? it works on other phones like here my Mx4. I just …], Nope. There's probably information online about this feature gap.
[18:46] <ubptgbot> mrcyjanek was added by: mrcyjanek
[18:49] <ubptgbot> Comrade_Nora was added by: Comrade_Nora
 Hi
 I'd like to run Phosh on Ubuntu Touch
 Is that possible? :/
 (Photo, 303x74) https://irc.ubports.com/Opr6PISP.png nice 666th message
 (Photo, 303x74) https://irc.ubports.com/z3ogdRLk.png nice 666th unread message
 @Comrade_Nora [Is that possible? :/], no. you need to port pureos to run on top of halium i guess, if that's what you want
 I have so far been unsuccessful in getting Halium to boot
 Particularly on the Oneplus one to be specific
[18:52] <ubptgbot> vaskas was added by: vaskas
 @uamoti [Anyone with experience flashing UT on OPO with LineageOS? … I assumed that it was …], If it installed successfully then the problem is elsewhere.... When you say LineageOS, is it real Lineage, or the original CyanogenOS?
 @Anghirrim [If it installed successfully then the problem is elsewhere.... When you say Line …], oneplus original OS was OxygenOS
 @dohbee [oneplus original OS was OxygenOS], Not on Oneplus One
 (At least on the European version). I think the Chinese version got HydrogenOS or something like that.
 OOS was available on OPO only when partnership with CyanogenOS broke up
 @Anghirrim [If it installed successfully then the problem is elsewhere.... When you say Line …], Actual LineageOS.
 @uamoti [Actual LineageOS.], So you were unlocked.
 Try to trick proposed above
 Here
 Fwd from wayneTBT: I had a similar issue with the Xperia X today.  Boot into TWRP and wipe all the caches, davlik, system etc... and reflash UT using the UBports installer.  At least this worked for me.
 Thanks for the tips. I'll try the TWRP recovery. I had developers tools enabled but didn't wipe cache or anything like that.
[19:18] <ubptgbot> <the “ https://xera.tech “> (Photo, 504x750) https://irc.ubports.com/QJprhu0z.png ,
 Is it possible to use ed25519 keys with shh on UT or do they have to be rsa?
 Either works
 [Edit] Is it possible to use ed25519 keys with ssh on UT or do they have to be rsa?
 Thanks.  My issue must be elsewhere then
 Alternatively there is the old Ubuntu SDK IDE. Be aware that it is no longer supported by Canonical, and UBports has chosen to not support it either due to lack of manpower. … Hm, thats says me that i can use even vim or sublime to write code?)
 @MenmuirMark [Any idea why I can sign in to git lab on other devices but get this odd error on …], Sorry for the late reply. Seems to be a morph limitation. Works fine with firefox on ubuntu 18.04.
 @jedi2light [Alternatively there is the old Ubuntu SDK IDE. Be aware that it is no longer sup …], you could always use whatever editor you wanted to use, to write code
[20:05] <ubptgbot> Sima Smith was added by: Sima Smith
 Can I safely copy folders in the .config directory from my Nexus 5 to the Xperia X for application settings without having to set them all up again?
 [Edit] Can I safely copy folders in the .config directory from my Nexus 5 to the Xperia X for application settings without having to set the apps all up again?
 should be possible, but that won't be all app data
 @dtarrant [Sorry for the late reply. Seems to be a morph limitation. Works fine with firefo …], Thanks, until a couple of weeks ago it worked fine on Morph so presumably a recent change to Gitlab means that it now uses something Morph doesn't/can't.
 @dohbee [should be possible, but that won't be all app data], Ok, cool.  I'll try with jotit and see what happens.
 Here you find info about the three app writable directories: http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/guides/writeable-dirs.html
 If you copy the three of them the migration should work for most apps.
 @jonny [If you copy the three of them the migration should work for most apps.], Great, thanks.
 Usually the cache should not be necessary to copy. But there are exceptions (e.g. Dekko).
 Ok, good to know.
 @MenmuirMark [Thanks, until a couple of weeks ago it worked fine on Morph so presumably a rece …], I tried to register with gitlab from my M10 tablet using morph. I kept getting the error message, so I tried from my laptop with firefox on ubuntu 18.04 and it worked perfectly.
 3198
[20:25] <ubptgbot> Kilian was added by: Kilian
 @MenmuirMark [Thanks, until a couple of weeks ago it worked fine on Morph so presumably a rece …], i think they upgraded the gitlab.com instance to a new version of gitlab on may 22 or so
 yes, release 13
 https://about.gitlab.com/releases/2020/05/06/gitlab-com-13-0-breaking-changes/