| cmaloney | morning | 11:54 |
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| cmaloney | Are we having fun yet? | 17:26 |
| greg-g | just found out no merit increases this year, only a (less than normal) COLA increase for all staff applied uniformly. I can't complain, I have a job. | 17:26 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, that's hard to complain about | 17:27 |
| jrwren | i am. | 17:31 |
| jrwren | TIL: podman has been a better docker replacement for years. dunno why anyone uses docker on linux these days. | 17:31 |
| cmaloney | habit and mindshare afaict | 17:50 |
| mrgoodcat | momentum | 18:53 |
| mrgoodcat | most people don't have a problem with docker, or if they have a problem they google "how to X with docker" or "make docker do X" | 18:54 |
| cmaloney | Also if it doesn't work well on Windows then it's a non-starter | 18:54 |
| mrgoodcat | and container services advertise "works with docker" | 18:54 |
| mrgoodcat | at many companies, if you use some other docker-like at work and some shit hits the fan you're in trouble even if that same shit would have hit the fan with docker | 18:55 |
| mrgoodcat | very unlikely you will catch any shit for using docker | 18:55 |
| cmaloney | Good point | 18:55 |
| jrwren | we just fired docker so... i dont have to worry about taht ;) | 18:55 |
| jrwren | 'no one ever got fired for buying IBM' | 18:56 |
| mrgoodcat | fwiw i have not had any major problems with docker that were not relatively trivial to work around, but I have also not done anything all that advanced | 18:56 |
| jrwren | me either... until I did. | 18:56 |
| mrgoodcat | mind sharing? | 18:56 |
| jrwren | and the more I dug to try to solve it, hte more I learned that garbage docker is. | 18:56 |
| jrwren | the way it does networking is nasty. | 18:57 |
| jrwren | the port map doesn't actually port map, it uses a proxy process. | 18:57 |
| jrwren | that is why you don't get real REMOTE_ADDR | 18:57 |
| cmaloney | oof | 18:57 |
| jrwren | and it has some networking options, but none that work the way I need for a sane pihole network setup. | 18:57 |
| jrwren | but it looks like podman does. I'll let ya know when I get around to actually moving it. | 18:58 |
| mrgoodcat | i have heard of the not being able to get remote addr problem. most of the time the workaround suggested is to put it behind something like nginx and trust the x-forwarded-for header, but that is a shit solution | 18:58 |
| jrwren | and the docs for docker actually don't talk about it. they suggest that docker uses iptables and actually does DNAT correctly, but in practice it doesn't. | 18:59 |
| jrwren | its ok, it is a niche, and I know it. | 18:59 |
| mrgoodcat | at BigCorp though, they want you to put it behand AWS Elastic Garbage Disposal anyways though which does x-forwarded-for | 18:59 |
| jrwren | ha! | 18:59 |
| jrwren | maybe at your big corp. | 18:59 |
| jrwren | at my bigcorp... well... like I said... we fired docker. | 18:59 |
| mrgoodcat | where do you work? i use BigCorp as a euphemism for the industry of enterprise software in general | 19:00 |
| jrwren | oh. | 19:00 |
| jrwren | I work for Cisco. | 19:00 |
| mrgoodcat | oh a legit bigcorp | 19:00 |
| jrwren | yeah. | 19:00 |
| mrgoodcat | also cisco is like The Champion of host it yourself | 19:00 |
| jrwren | although ALL of cisco didn't fire docker, just our little piece. | 19:00 |
| mrgoodcat | obviously they don't want you to aws lol | 19:00 |
| jrwren | 100 of the 72000 | 19:01 |
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