[18:06] <OvenWerks> you may need to keep an unactive one tied up... that sounded like a threat
[18:10] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: It's not really possible, but I did it anyways just in case.
[18:26] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: re:telegram/matrix, etc. I am not sure how they are viewed as better than IRC. What do they offer? do they have backscroll even when not online?
[18:27]  * OvenWerks thinks that would just be a webpage addition to IRC.
[18:28] <Eickmeyer> So, Telegram and Matrix are always connected and can simply bridge to IRC. Matrix's bridge is more robust.
[18:29] <Eickmeyer> Telegram is more like an instant messenger, Matrix is a whole chat protocol.
[18:29] <OvenWerks> so backscroll during offline time
[18:29] <Eickmeyer> Yes.
[18:29] <Eickmeyer> That, and you can actually post images (screenshots, etc). directly to the chat.
[18:29] <Eickmeyer> No need to go through imgur or something else.
[18:30] <Eickmeyer> Same with video, if needed.
[18:30] <Eickmeyer> Audio too, as a matter of fact.
[18:30] <OvenWerks> ok. sort of makes sense I guess
[18:30] <Eickmeyer> I prefer Matrix to Telegram, especially since the bridge is more robust.
[18:31] <OvenWerks> to be honest, I would not liked being pinged via either audio or video (assuming that is live)
[18:31] <Eickmeyer> No, it just posts as a message that you'd have to click on to see/hear.
[18:32] <Eickmeyer> It's not like people can just call you.
[18:33] <Eickmeyer> Well, they can, but that doesn't happen.
[18:33] <Eickmeyer> Like, eylul[m] asks before she calls me.
[18:35] <OvenWerks> from a support pov, some of the people who come to IRC seem like they would just expect to make a call to you if they didn't get an answer fast enough
[18:35] <Eickmeyer> Heh, if they do, 1) decline, 2) block, 3) ban.
[18:36] <Eickmeyer> Have yet to see anyone on Matrix attempt to call me.
[18:36] <OvenWerks> I know I ignore PMs and only answer comments in the channel
[18:37] <Eickmeyer> Also, Matrix forces people to register before joining a channel.
[18:37] <Eickmeyer> Cuts down on spam.
[22:32] <eylul[m]> @eickmeyer Ovenwerks it is usually a good idea to poke before calling someone, or.. well, there is also the issue of giving people time to setup their headsets etc
[22:32] <eylul[m]> :)
[22:32] <Eickmeyer> Yep.
[22:32] <eylul[m]> also I believe you can limit private calls, or even DMs to only people in your friends list
[22:33] <eylul[m]> anyhow I am heading to sleep, dropped in because I saw my name
[22:33] <eylul[m]> gnight.
[22:34] <Eickmeyer> Good night!