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| coconut | When i multiboot two or more distro's, would they be able to share the same swap partition? | 08:34 |
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| coconut | I have 32GB ram. | 08:36 |
| well_laid_lawn | coconut: sure | 08:40 |
| coconut | well_laid_lawn, ok so they do not interfere when i would reboot and start another distro from another partition? | 08:41 |
| guiverc | coconut, one can only run at a time, and you cannot hibernate a system to use the other (the other will overwrite the hibernated system's memory which will be in swap) (I've not shared an encrypted swap though so can't speak to that) | 09:19 |
| coconut | guiverc, so the swap gets deleted every reboot? | 09:24 |
| guiverc | i don't think it's deleted... more considered unused at boot time (thus booted os will use swap found) | 09:24 |
| coconut | i see | 09:32 |
| coconut | thank you guiverc | 09:32 |
| guiverc | coconut, actually this system uses encrypted swap; shared between 18.04 & gorilla/20.10 | 09:35 |
| coconut | guiverc, sounds like i want to know how much space i would need for just swap in a file under /. | 09:40 |
| guiverc | how much swap varies on your actual end-use case.. if you hibernate, you need enough for any hibernate.used + memory.used (most users wouldn't use all of 32gb I suspect very often). if you don't hibernate, you likely won't need much with all your ram (i'd lower swappiness anyway to reduce use unless your needs need ram) | 09:42 |
| guiverc | (lower swappiness comment gives wrong impression, I'd leave it standard & monitor, then consider if it needed to be lowered.. changing when/if necessary) | 09:44 |
| coconut | guiverc, laptop is just new, so i don't know whether i would hybernate... need some use case for this new thinkpad first. :) | 09:48 |
| coconut | (it is not a super fast laptop, so hybernation might be slow) | 09:53 |
| guiverc | coconut, hibernate is a system that allows you to save system state (memory) to disk/ssd to turn off, using less power than suspend (suspend is quick), speed of box isn't important with hibernate - but not everyone uses it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate | 09:59 |
| coconut | i will probably most likely want to suspend | 10:58 |
| * coconut is waiting on a new ssd to arrive | 10:59 | |
| miu5 | Hi, does anyone know where passwords and keys are stored in Xubuntu? Is it gnome-keyring? | 15:58 |
| diogenes_ | miu5, yes. | 15:59 |
| miu5 | diogenes_, thanks. Why does Xubuntu use a gnome application as a keyring ? why doesnt it have its own? just curious | 16:15 |
| diogenes_ | miu5, it's not Xubuntu but it's Xfce doesn't have it's own. | 16:18 |
| Celso | Good afternoon! | 17:18 |
| diogenes_ | hello. | 17:19 |
| kitster | hi my xubuntu os is not able to boot and it's on grub mode. have tried some online advice but can't work. can someone help? | 18:18 |
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| diogenes_ | kitster, tell us the full story. | 18:22 |
| kitster | i installed xubuntu 20.04 on my MacBook air and it was working fine. then my batt went flat and when i restarted it's in the grub command mode | 18:23 |
| kitster | went online to look for some solution and i tried a few of them like identifying ls partition to look for the boot file | 18:24 |
| kitster | cldnt find a command that could boot up the os | 18:24 |
| GLAT-agent1 | Hello. I am selling GNU/Linux licenses. Contact me if you want one ($99 for single computer, $49 for each computer if purchasing for 25 or more machines). | 18:25 |
| diogenes_ | what text do you see on the screen kitster ? | 18:25 |
| GLAT-agent1 | "Your GNU/Linux copy is not activated" | 18:25 |
| diogenes_ | GLAT-agent1, nice joke but not now. | 18:26 |
| kitster | grub> | 18:27 |
| diogenes_ | and when you do ls? | 18:27 |
| kitster | it shows my partitions like (hd0,gpt2) (hd0,gpt1) | 18:28 |
| diogenes_ | ls (hd0,gpt2)/ | 18:29 |
| kitster | ls (hd0,gpt1)/ efi/ | 18:30 |
| kitster | nothing on gpt2 | 18:30 |
| kitster | shld i insert the usb that as the os file i first installed | 18:31 |
| diogenes_ | yes boot live. | 18:32 |
| kitster | i kinda tried that but not sure how | 18:33 |
| kitster | ls shows the partitions in the usb | 18:34 |
| kitster | now i have (hd1,msdos3) (hd1,msdos2) (hd,apple1) (hd,apple2) | 18:36 |
| diogenes_ | kitster, boot the system from the usb. | 18:37 |
| kitster | it can't boot from the usb. when i restart the machine it goes to the grub command again | 18:38 |
| kitster | i tried pressing F12 didn't work | 18:38 |
| GLAT-agent3 | Hello. I am selling GNU/Linux licenses ($99 for single computer, $49 for each computer if purchasing for 25 or more machines). | 18:39 |
| diogenes_ | kitster, so how did you manage to install? | 18:40 |
| kitster | i installed when it was running on mac os | 18:40 |
| kitster | let me try using those same steps | 18:43 |
| diogenes_ | we need to find (hd0,gptx) which contains your system so do: ls (hd0,gptx) untill you find /boot /etc /home ... | 18:44 |
| kitster | yeah i tried that method to look for the /boot/ etc file but to no success. am trying to reinstall from the usb now | 18:50 |
| diogenes_ | ok | 18:51 |
| kitster | am seeing the logo now, hope it'll go well. | 18:51 |
| kitster | tks Diogenes for the guidance, reminded me on how i first installed on the machine | 18:52 |
| diogenes_ | no problem. | 18:53 |
| kitster | it's starting again now, cheers! | 18:54 |
| diogenes_ | good luck! | 18:54 |
| zenlinux | Hi all. I have a Dell XPS 13 (9343) that I've done a fresh install of Xubuntu 20.04 onto. If I suspend the laptop by using the Logout/Power dialog, suspend and resume work correctly. However, if I close and open the lid, when it resumes from suspend I can see my screen, move my mouse, but everything on the desktop is frozen (e.g, if I had a | 20:11 |
| zenlinux | terminal window open, I can't type into it). My question is how can I make the lid open/close behavior do whatever the Logout/Power dialog action is doing? | 20:11 |
| zenlinux | I'm seeing some references to systemd's logind handing lid events, but my /etc/systemd/logind.conf is fully commented out. | 20:12 |
| zenlinux | so I *think* lid events are being handled by xfce power manager? | 20:12 |
| diogenes_ | zenlinux, uncomment HandleLidSwitch=suspend. | 20:14 |
| zenlinux | alright, giving that a try - rebooting just to be completely sure the service has restarted... | 20:15 |
| diogenes_ | wait | 20:16 |
| diogenes_ | that's not all | 20:16 |
| diogenes_ | cp /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml | 20:16 |
| diogenes_ | mousepad ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml | 20:17 |
| diogenes_ | somewhere between the lines add: | 20:17 |
| diogenes_ | <property name="logind-handle-lid-switch" type="bool" value="true"/> | 20:17 |
| diogenes_ | xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/logind-handle-lid-switch -s true | 20:17 |
| diogenes_ | reboot | 20:18 |
| zenlinux | ok, tried that - getting the same behavior unfortunately. should I be setting the lid events to something other than "suspend" in the xfce power settings? | 20:22 |
| zenlinux | yeah, looks like changing those settings re-writes the ~/.config file, so repeating the process | 20:25 |
| diogenes_ | zenlinux, yes put blank in xfce4 power manager. | 20:25 |
| diogenes_ | Switch off Display | 20:26 |
| zenlinux | kk, going afk for few, will report back | 20:29 |
| diogenes_ | ok | 20:31 |
| n-iCe | hi | 20:32 |
| diogenes_ | hi | 20:36 |
| zenlinux | diogenes_: still no luck. I've tried putting the relevant config and xfconf-query info in this gist: https://gist.github.com/ScottGarman/90db55c78155379998cdfab03934c61e | 20:50 |
| diogenes_ | zenlinux, let's see if it at least works, try instead of suspend to put poweroff, HandleLidSwitch=poweroff | 20:52 |
| zenlinux | good idea, I'll give that a spin | 20:52 |
| diogenes_ | it will work only after reboot. | 20:54 |
| zenlinux | nod | 20:54 |
| xubuntu23i | Yeah, i'm installing Xubuntu | 20:55 |
| zenlinux | ok, I can confirm that HandleLidSwitch=poweroff in logind.conf works to power off the laptop | 20:55 |
| zenlinux | upon closing the lid | 20:55 |
| diogenes_ | then it executes the command. | 20:56 |
| zenlinux | right, and typically before I close the lid I bring up a terminal that does a tail -f of /var/log/syslog, so when I open it up again I can confirm that it was suspending | 20:57 |
| zenlinux | I think the issue is in resume from suspend | 20:57 |
| zenlinux | resuming from suspend seems to work fine when I do it from the Logoff/Power dialog | 20:57 |
| zenlinux | I'm not seeing any odd messages in the syslog when I resume either - no kernel panics or video errors | 20:59 |
| diogenes_ | maybe look in bug reports, one thing i can tell for sure is that linux inherently has had problems when it comes about suspend/resume, try after resume to switch TTYs back and forth. | 21:01 |
| zenlinux | ok, I'll keep hunting. totally appreciate the time you took to troubleshoot this with me! and it's good for me to know about the bits in ~/.config that power manager uses | 21:02 |
| diogenes_ | you're welcome | 21:03 |
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| Yogui | ¿Se puede hablar en español aquí? | 23:01 |
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| Unit193 | !es | 23:04 |
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