=== Rtfsc9 is now known as Rtfsc8
=== his is now known as hiss
=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
=== pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka
coconutWhen i multiboot two or more distro's, would they be able to share the same swap partition?08:34
coconutI have 32GB ram.08:36
well_laid_lawncoconut: sure08:40
coconutwell_laid_lawn, ok so they do not interfere when i would reboot and start another distro from another partition?08:41
guiverccoconut, one can only run at a time, and you cannot hibernate a system to use the other (the other will overwrite the hibernated system's memory which will be in swap)  (I've not shared an encrypted swap though so can't speak to that)09:19
coconutguiverc, so the swap gets deleted every reboot?09:24
guiverci don't think it's deleted... more considered unused at boot time (thus booted os will use swap found)09:24
coconuti see09:32
coconutthank you guiverc09:32
guiverccoconut, actually this system uses encrypted swap; shared between 18.04 & gorilla/20.1009:35
coconutguiverc, sounds like i want to know how much space i would need for just swap in a file under /.09:40
guiverchow much swap varies on your actual end-use case.. if you hibernate, you need enough for any hibernate.used + memory.used (most users wouldn't use all of 32gb I suspect very often). if you don't hibernate, you likely won't need much with all your ram (i'd lower swappiness anyway to reduce use unless your needs need ram)09:42
guiverc(lower swappiness comment gives wrong impression, I'd leave it standard & monitor, then consider if it needed to be lowered.. changing when/if necessary)09:44
coconutguiverc, laptop is just new, so i don't know whether i would hybernate... need some use case for this new thinkpad first. :)09:48
coconut(it is not a super fast laptop, so hybernation might be slow)09:53
guiverccoconut, hibernate is a system that allows you to save system state (memory) to disk/ssd to turn off, using less power than suspend (suspend is quick), speed of box isn't important with hibernate - but not everyone uses it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate09:59
coconuti will probably most likely want to suspend10:58
* coconut is waiting on a new ssd to arrive10:59
miu5Hi, does anyone know where passwords and keys are stored in Xubuntu?  Is it gnome-keyring?15:58
diogenes_miu5, yes.15:59
miu5diogenes_, thanks.  Why does Xubuntu use a gnome application as a keyring ?  why doesnt it have its own?  just curious16:15
diogenes_miu5, it's not Xubuntu but it's Xfce doesn't have it's own.16:18
CelsoGood afternoon!17:18
kitsterhi my xubuntu os is not able to boot and it's on grub mode. have tried some online advice but can't work. can someone help?18:18
=== Celso is now known as Celso_Off
diogenes_kitster, tell us the full story.18:22
kitsteri installed xubuntu 20.04 on my MacBook air and it was working fine. then my batt went flat and when i restarted it's in the grub command mode18:23
kitsterwent online to look for some solution and i tried a few of them like identifying ls partition to look for the boot file18:24
kitstercldnt find a command that could boot up the os18:24
GLAT-agent1Hello. I am selling GNU/Linux licenses. Contact me if you want one ($99 for single computer, $49 for each computer if purchasing for 25 or more machines).18:25
diogenes_what text do you see on the screen kitster ?18:25
GLAT-agent1"Your GNU/Linux copy is not activated"18:25
diogenes_GLAT-agent1, nice joke but not now.18:26
diogenes_and when you do ls?18:27
kitsterit shows my partitions like (hd0,gpt2) (hd0,gpt1)18:28
diogenes_ls (hd0,gpt2)/18:29
kitsterls (hd0,gpt1)/ efi/18:30
kitsternothing on gpt218:30
kitstershld i insert the usb that as the os file i first installed18:31
diogenes_yes boot live.18:32
kitsteri kinda tried that but not sure how18:33
kitsterls shows the partitions in the usb18:34
kitsternow i have (hd1,msdos3) (hd1,msdos2) (hd,apple1) (hd,apple2)18:36
diogenes_kitster, boot the system from the usb.18:37
kitsterit can't boot from the usb. when i restart the machine it goes to the grub command again18:38
kitsteri tried pressing F12 didn't work18:38
GLAT-agent3Hello. I am selling GNU/Linux licenses ($99 for single computer, $49 for each computer if purchasing for 25 or more machines).18:39
diogenes_kitster, so how did you manage to install?18:40
kitsteri installed when it was running on mac os18:40
kitsterlet me try using those same steps18:43
diogenes_we need to find  (hd0,gptx) which contains your system so do: ls (hd0,gptx) untill you find /boot /etc /home ...18:44
kitsteryeah i tried that method to look for the /boot/ etc file but to no success. am trying to reinstall from the usb now18:50
kitsteram seeing the logo now, hope it'll go well.18:51
kitstertks Diogenes for the guidance, reminded me on how i first installed on the machine18:52
diogenes_no problem.18:53
kitsterit's starting again now, cheers!18:54
diogenes_good luck!18:54
zenlinuxHi all. I have a Dell XPS 13 (9343) that I've done a fresh install of Xubuntu 20.04 onto. If I suspend the laptop by using the Logout/Power dialog, suspend and resume work correctly. However, if I close and open the lid, when it resumes from suspend I can see my screen, move my mouse, but everything on the desktop is frozen (e.g, if I had a20:11
zenlinuxterminal window open, I can't type into it). My question is how can I make the lid open/close behavior do whatever the Logout/Power dialog action is doing?20:11
zenlinuxI'm seeing some references to systemd's logind handing lid events, but my /etc/systemd/logind.conf is fully commented out.20:12
zenlinuxso I *think* lid events are being handled by xfce power manager?20:12
diogenes_zenlinux, uncomment HandleLidSwitch=suspend.20:14
zenlinuxalright, giving that a try - rebooting just to be completely sure the service has restarted...20:15
diogenes_that's not all20:16
diogenes_cp /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml20:16
diogenes_mousepad ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-power-manager.xml20:17
diogenes_somewhere between the lines add:20:17
diogenes_<property name="logind-handle-lid-switch" type="bool" value="true"/>20:17
diogenes_xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/logind-handle-lid-switch -s true20:17
zenlinuxok, tried that - getting the same behavior unfortunately. should I be setting the lid events to something other than "suspend" in the xfce power settings?20:22
zenlinuxyeah, looks like changing those settings re-writes the ~/.config file, so repeating the process20:25
diogenes_zenlinux, yes put blank in xfce4 power manager.20:25
diogenes_Switch off Display20:26
zenlinuxkk, going afk for few, will report back20:29
zenlinuxdiogenes_: still no luck. I've tried putting the relevant config and xfconf-query info in this gist: https://gist.github.com/ScottGarman/90db55c78155379998cdfab03934c61e20:50
diogenes_zenlinux, let's see if it at least works, try instead of suspend to put poweroff, HandleLidSwitch=poweroff20:52
zenlinuxgood idea, I'll give that a spin20:52
diogenes_it will work only after reboot.20:54
xubuntu23iYeah, i'm installing Xubuntu20:55
zenlinuxok, I can confirm that HandleLidSwitch=poweroff in logind.conf works to power off the laptop20:55
zenlinuxupon closing the lid20:55
diogenes_then it executes the command.20:56
zenlinuxright, and typically before I close the lid I bring up a terminal that does a tail -f of /var/log/syslog, so when I open it up again I can confirm that it was suspending20:57
zenlinuxI think the issue is in resume from suspend20:57
zenlinuxresuming from suspend seems to work fine when I do it from the Logoff/Power dialog20:57
zenlinuxI'm not seeing any odd messages in the syslog when I resume either - no kernel panics or video errors20:59
diogenes_maybe look in bug reports, one thing i can tell for sure is that linux inherently has had problems when it comes about suspend/resume, try after resume to switch TTYs back and forth.21:01
zenlinuxok, I'll keep hunting. totally appreciate the time you took to troubleshoot this with me! and it's good for me to know about the bits in ~/.config that power manager uses21:02
diogenes_you're welcome21:03
=== Celso_Off is now known as Celso
Yogui¿Se puede hablar en español aquí?23:01
Unit193Hello!  This is an English speaking channel, if you'd like help in Spanish please see:23:04
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:04

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!