 @theare27 [Is there away to prevent videos autoplaying in Morph?], i think i can
 there is a qtwebengine flag i think
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/02lFEcnY.png if I want to install GSI for my Redmi note 4, how do I get halium-boot.img on my device, why does it feel so difficult 😂
 there is Halium 7 port for Redmi Note 4
 (Photo, 1280x430) https://irc.ubports.com/850CNGxu.png Is this enough? I am very interested but why is it so difficult, thank you 😂
 no, you need device-specific kernel compiled
 also @halium group is a better place for this
 @NotKit [no, you need device-specific kernel compiled], Can you make it for me, because I don't have a PC 😶
 @NotKit [also @halium group is a better place for this], Thanks , i will join
 sorry, I don't think it's good idea then, because if it won't start (and something rarely works from the first try) you have no means to debug it
 [Edit] sorry, I don't think it's a good idea then, because if it won't start (and something rarely works from the first try) you have no means to debug it
 @NotKit [sorry, I don't think it's a good idea then, because if it won't start (and somet …], Yup Thank you, that gives something very important, and I understand 👍 … Thank you for responding
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/egNxEgd7.null
 all you need is `    settings.playbackRequiresUserGesture: true` in WebViewImpl.qml
 @mateosalta [all you need is     settings.playbackRequiresUserGesture: true in WebViewImpl.qm …], have you tried it? does it work? so if its, it'll be easy yo add it in the settings 😄
[05:35] <ubptgbot> Bitfinex Support Paixão was added by: Bitfinex Support Paixão
 Will custom layout support be implemented in the terminal app? I'm quite constrained by the limitations of the predefined layouts when using Cordless.
 [Edit] Will custom layout support be implemented in the terminal app later? I'm quite constrained by the limitations of the predefined layouts when using Cordless.
 @mintphin [Will custom layout support be implemented in the terminal app later? I'm quite c …], you mean the key shortcuts in the bottom bar?
 exactly
 (Photo, 1280x590) https://irc.ubports.com/zATOzuFI.png
 got cordless working
 I believe you can create one yourself but I think it's not available in the UI or might not be possible to do without proposing a PR
 how tho?
 I remember there was a guide or something
 let me check
[07:43] <ubptgbot> RaJvAnT KuMaR Rodnel was added by: RaJvAnT KuMaR Rodnel
 tried to do what you said and now the terminal app is crashing @Javacookies
 you found the tutorial? I can't find it 😅
 i did. it's at https://ubuntu-touch.io/de_DE/blog/unser-blog-1/post/terminal-chapter-4-125
 sorry, I was just aware of it but never tried it 😅
 Hey folks, is there a forum group for Xperia X users / issues?
 Even though SSH access is enabled in the phone.  I need to go to the terminal and type 'sudo service ssh start' each time my phone restarts and I want to initiate an ssh session.
[08:43] <ubptgbot> arifnd was added by: arifnd
[08:44] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Does anyone make cool games for UT ? I bet some phones can handle 3D games.
[08:45] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> The ones in the Open Store seem to be rather basic 2D games.
 @mateosalta [<reply to media>], Thanks, I'll try it out shortly
 @mark alexa [Does anyone make cool games for UT ? I bet some phones can handle 3D games.], I bet there will be Steam on UT. In 10 years
[09:37] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @vaskas [I bet there will be Steam on UT. In 10 years], "In 10 years" 😄
 Only as a screen to play the game running on another computer.
 @theare27 [Thanks, I'll try it out shortly], Yep that works for my usecase, thanks Mateo. Will that eventually be integrated into the version shipped with the OS updates?
[09:48] <ubptgbot> Pete Smith was added by: Pete Smith
[09:49] <ubptgbot> DiiDii was added by: DiiDii
[09:50] <ubptgbot> <Pete Smith> ok thinking of getting a nexus 5 and putting UT on it but Im having some confusion as to which nexus 5 to get, there seems to be a rsion android I have on, please any info as Im sick of the big 2 android and apple, thannks in advance
[09:51] <ubptgbot> <Pete Smith> sorry 5x version
 @Pete Smith [sorry 5x version], Ubuntu Touch is not available on the Nexus 5x.
 https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 I do run Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 5 and it works quite well.
[09:54] <ubptgbot> <Pete Smith> Ok thanks Wayne , brilliant response, thank you
 @Pete Smith [Ok thanks Wayne , brilliant response, thank you], [[If you want](https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Google_Nexus_5X_(lg-bullhead))[If you want t](https://docs.plasma-mobile.org/Installation.html)If you want to create a port, [this information](http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/supplementary/devices/bullhead.html) about the bull
[10:07] <ubptgbot> head may be useful. Or you can try other mobile operating systems available for yor device: plasma mobile (neon based) and postmarketos.
[10:11] <ubptgbot> <Pete Smith> Thanks I will check it out
[10:20] <ubptgbot> <Hamza G> (Photo, 511x760) https://irc.ubports.com/Bq2FHYpx.png amaze
 @Flohack , spam
 why are you posting that here?
 Has anyone tried Ubuntu touch on a newer phone
 Maybe one with volte
 I want to try for redmi 5a
 redmi 5a (riva) is not a supported device: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 You can port though
 Or at least try
 @noufys [Has anyone tried Ubuntu touch on a newer phone], I'm porting it to oneplus 6t
 Volte works?
 @noufys [Has anyone tried Ubuntu touch on a newer phone], Yes,
 @noufys [Has anyone tried Ubuntu touch on a newer phone], [Edit] Yes. I got it working on Mi A3.
 @noufys [Volte works?], I'm still porting, nothing works for now
 Currently fixing mobile data.
[11:06] <ubptgbot> kovid1984 was added by: kovid1984
 Черти ебаные
 @theare27 [Yep that works for my usecase, thanks Mateo. Will that eventually be integrated …], i filed a bug :)
 Портируйте мне на см н9005 убпортс
 English please
 @amyosx [English please], Suck my dick
 Понял?
 Гандон ебаный
 Черт ебаный
 @kovid1984 [Suck my dick], No I won't
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/IJJ3Llx8.webp
 @kovid1984 [Портируйте мне на см н9005 убпортс], По-английски пиши, сука! (Please, write in English)
 Хуй соси быстро
 @vtsoft [По-английски пиши, сука! (Please, write in English)], Нахуй иди
 Go nahuy
 @kovid1984 [Нахуй иди], Stop flooding.
 Cyka blyat
 @vtsoft [Stop flooding.], 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈BLACK LIVES MATTER🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈
 Obama 2020!!!🏳‍🌈
 @Javacookies [have you tried it? does it work? so if its, it'll be easy yo add it in the setti …], it works
 @kovid1984 [Obama 2020!!!🏳‍🌈], @dohbee @mariogrip please ban troll
 Fwd from kovid1984: 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈BLACK LIVES MATTER🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈
 Fwd from kovid1984: 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈BLACK LIVES MATTER🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈
 Fwd from kovid1984: 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈BLACK LIVES MATTER🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈
 Onlayn miting
 Черти ебаные блять
 Где мой порт
 Жду порт на SM N9005
 Иначе я тут онлайн  митинг устрою
 Поняли,ушлепки?
 @Flohack , troll user
 @mimecar [@Flohack , troll user], Black lives matter
 Fwd from kovid1984: 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈BLACK LIVES MATTER🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈
 Fwd from kovid1984: 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈BLACK LIVES MATTER🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈
 Fwd from kovid1984: 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈BLACK LIVES MATTER🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈
 @kovid1984 [Жду порт на SM N9005], If you want a port do it yourself.
 Im black gay-chicken transgender
 I vant mor rights
[11:14] <ubptgbot> Mister_Tails121 was added by: Mister_Tails121
 Hello everybody!
 @Mister_Tails121 [Hello everybody!], There is onlayn miting
 Fwd from kovid1984: 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈BLACK LIVES MATTER🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈
 @Mister_Tails121 [Hello everybody!], Hello! I hope you are not a troll...
 Say #BLACKLIVESMATTER or go our here
 [Edit] Say #BLACKLIVESMATTER or go out here
 @kovid1984 [There is onlayn miting], Yes, I understand already, but can you please normally ask people here or will you create garbage?
 please ignore the spam bots while our mods take care of it
 @Mister_Tails121 [Yes, I understand already, but can you please normally ask people here or will y …], Go out here
 Fwd from kovid1984: Say #BLACKLIVESMATTER or go out here
 @vtsoft [Hello! I hope you are not a troll...], No, I just want to find out if there are Redmi 7 users here.
 Are you a gay chicken transgander?
 If you not,go out here
 All lives matter
 @fractalzero [All lives matter], No
 Black lives matter
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0VRovDuq.mp4
 @Mister_Tails121 [No, I just want to find out if there are Redmi 7 users here.], Redmi 7 or Redmi note 7?
 @fractalzero [All lives matter], Terrorists lives don't matter
 @vtsoft [Redmi 7 or Redmi note 7?], Redmi 7
 @vtsoft [Redmi 7 or Redmi note 7?], Shut up
 everyone that responds to the spam might get reported too
 You are not black gay chicken transgender
 Can someone kick this kid
 @kovid1984 [You are not black gay chicken transgender], I'm trans and pansexual
 @amyosx [Can someone kick this kid], Fuck you
 @amyosx [I'm trans and pansexual], Good kid!
 Now say #blacklivesmatter
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/y2U5zCV1.webp
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/2zxruzvj.webp
 ONLAYN MITING!!
 OBAMA 2020
 🏳‍🌈
 Are there Redmi 7 users here? (Not Redmi Note 7, namely Redmi7), otherwise everything is bad with attempts to port it, I thought maybe there are those who are better off ....
 @amyosx [I'm trans and pansexual], I too enjoy fellatiating pans
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/NAypR4zq.webp
 @pizzabroodje [I too enjoy fellatiating pans], No that's not what it means
[11:22] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> Does anyone knows how to install Whatsapp with Anbox WITHOUT a google-play account?
 @Federica Galli [Does anyone knows how to install Whatsapp with Anbox WITHOUT a google-play accou …], You can download whatsapp apk from google play using alternative client like a Aurora Store.
 @Federica Galli [Does anyone knows how to install Whatsapp with Anbox WITHOUT a google-play accou …], [Edit] You can download whatsapp apk from google play using alternative client like Aurora Store.
 @Federica Galli [Does anyone knows how to install Whatsapp with Anbox WITHOUT a google-play accou …], So it works fine without it ... I'm sitting on Lineage.OS now without google play and everything works for me
[11:24] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @vtsoft [You can download whatsapp apk from google play using alternative client like Aur …], ok, i've heard about that. Will that work (downloading whatsapp using aurora store) from UT once I have anbox?
 @Federica Galli [ok, i've heard about that. Will that work (downloading whatsapp using aurora sto …], Yes, it works fine ... if it does not work through the Aurora Store, you can directly install the APK
[11:29] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Mister_Tails121 [Yes, it works fine ... if it does not work through the Aurora Store, you can dir …], The point is that I don't have an android, i have an iphone and if i install UT on the OP1 I will wipe android and do not want to create any google-play or store account. So how can i get the apk without it?
 @Federica Galli [The point is that I don't have an android, i have an iphone and if i install UT …], Yes you can. He Has No Strong Google Attachment
[11:32] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Mister_Tails121 [Yes you can. He Has No Strong Google Attachment], 👍
 @Federica Galli [The point is that I don't have an android, i have an iphone and if i install UT …], You can install Aurora on your OPO and get WhatsApp from it without a Google account. The apk should land in the Aurora folder into your phone memory.
 OPO running Android of course
 Apkmirror also exists
[11:46] <ubptgbot> MrFlyback was added by: MrFlyback
[11:48] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Anghirrim [You can install Aurora on your OPO and get WhatsApp from it without a Google acc …], In the italian UBports forum they tell me that "adb install nome-file.apk" should be enough, no google account needed. Only anbox.
 @Federica Galli [In the italian UBports forum they tell me that "adb install nome-file.apk" shoul …], Stop .... Are Ubports forums still divided into regions or what?
 there are local groups for spanish, italian, etc.
 @Mister_Tails121 [Stop .... Are Ubports forums still divided into regions or what?], (Something seems to me that Google translator never learned to translate without errors ..)
 @mimecar [there are local groups for spanish, italian, etc.], Ohhh ... I didn’t know .... I thought there was only English ...
 How to install my device is Available in the list of Ubuntu touch but it doesn't support ub ports
 @loophole47 , what's your device?
 Redmi 4x santoni
 @loophole47 [How to install my device is Available in the list of Ubuntu touch but it doesn't …], Hehe ... I just wanted to ask this ... You directly read my thoughts ...😅😅
 Extra work is needed to add it to the installer.
 (Photo, 1280x500) https://irc.ubports.com/FFGnBmDQ.png
 you have all the information on the forum: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/3682/xiaomi-redmi-4x-santoni
 also you can check features that work
 @Federica Galli [In the italian UBports forum they tell me that "adb install nome-file.apk" shoul …], Yep, my recommendation is just for getting the apk from a trusted source without creating any Google account. 😉
 And can you tell me which components you need to redo to get ubuntu? (I have Redmi 7, and I think what changes should be made to the kernel and vendor)
 In principle, each device needs its own port.
[12:03] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Mister_Tails121 [Stop .... Are Ubports forums still divided into regions or what?], 😂😂 apparently...oh well, not everyone speaks english you know 😁
 @Federica Galli [😂😂 apparently...oh well, not everyone speaks english you know 😁], 😅Yes there is such a little ...😂😂😂😁
[12:06] <ubptgbot> <Michael Erditya> (Photo, 512x840) https://irc.ubports.com/4opJ4WqS.png omg
 @mimecar [In principle, each device needs its own port.], Of course you need ... But ubuntu is very moody and very hard to start, and it’s not possible to launch it everywhere
 The problem is more about Android dependency.
 I do not know what changes have to be made to adapt a port from one model to another model.
 I don’t know .... Here with Redmi 7 (I and several people tried to port it), we had problems with the kernel + vendor + lack of GSI for the port under AB architecture ... And without this, the maximum that we could achieve was launch the GUI but without support for Ubuntu packages and its applications in general ...
 @Mister_Tails121 [I don’t know .... Here with Redmi 7 (I and several people tried to port it), we …], Do you think you understand it was hard to call ubuntu ... Rather, its demo .... There is not even a concept
 I have ab but Ubuntu touch wouldn't work cause I have a64 cpu
 I need to try porting lol
 @mariogrip Jeg fikk aldri stickers av deg!
 This convergence thing has piqued my interest
 @NotKit [that's offtopic here, but it is a partition layout, not processor architecture.. …], Success also depends on this. If you have A / B then it turns out you can’t even hope for ubuntu
 i loved samsung dex
 @Mister_Tails121 [Success also depends on this. If you have A / B then it turns out you can’t even …], that's not true for some time already
 @amyosx [I have ab but Ubuntu touch wouldn't work cause I have a64 cpu], And it won’t work because ubuntu has only A architecture (I’ll call it an architecture because it’s more convenient for me)
 @NotKit [that's not true for some time already], But our attempts a week ago proved the opposite
 Uhh I've seen it on ab devices though
 @amyosx [Uhh I've seen it on ab devices though], I don’t know when we were looking for a GSI for A / B we turned upside down and didn’t find
 @Mister_Tails121 [But our attempts a week ago proved the opposite], you didn't figure out something then
 It's an installer iirc anyway
 @NotKit [you didn't figure out something then], I wonder what .... That there is no GSI for A / B .... We just struggled for a long time about it .. But for AB there really is no GSI .... … 🤔🤔🤔
 there is no UBPorts GSI in Android ROM sense. You need to build custom kernel and patch it *not to skip* ramdisk. Then your A/B device behaves same as A-only device and there is no difference except for partition names
 @halium for porting discussion though, it is a bit of offtopic here
 Could we lvm data and system_b?
 Gets us an extra 2 gb
 @NotKit [there is no UBPorts GSI in Android ROM sense. You need to build custom kernel an …], Can you tell me what you need to patch To get such an effect?
 https://github.com/ubports-lavender/kernel/commit/664adcdfa277c75ff2a47bbfb2e2bfac43dd84d8
 @NotKit [https://github.com/ubports-lavender/kernel/commit/664adcdfa277c75ff2a47bbfb2e2bf …], Ok, I'll pass it on to my people. I hope that it will help.
 Thanks
 "The Ubports installer gsi from Erefan doesn’t start, but he doesn’t even BEGIN IN SECTIONS THERE IS NOTHING TO CHANGE ANYTHING !!!" … Umm ... They just said that he doesn’t even want to put it ..... Question ... Are there any fixes for this?
 @Mister_Tails121 ["The Ubports installer gsi from Erefan doesn’t start, but he doesn’t even BEGIN …], "Developer: This is a problem, he doesn’t even BECOME AB; nothing in the files does not CHANGE all the sections he looked" … (Oh ... It’s a pity that you can’t send it right away and you have to go through Googke Translate first .
[12:42] <ubptgbot> ... Inconveniently)
 There is a russian tg if it can help: https://t.me/UBports_Ru
 @Mister_Tails121 ["Developer: This is a problem, he doesn’t even BECOME AB; nothing in the files d …], it flashes to /data, not /system
 @libremax [There is a russian tg if it can help: https://t.me/UBports_Ru], Thanks
 Hi, quick search didn't bring any results so I'm asking: my screen broke and is completely black. I have custom recovery installed and a custom rom, but when runnin adb devices in terminal it says unauthorized. Since I have TWRP, is there any way to create a complete backup through TWRP, ADB and the Linux terminal? Can I boot into recovery
[12:54] <ubptgbot> somehow and run commands there?
 Oh, I'm on OnePlus 3
 @NotKit [it flashes to /data, not /system], Developer: I know, but the date (rootfs) should change according to the installation script, I looked at 8gb but this does not happen
 eh, it should put two files (android-rootfs.img and rootfs.img to /data)
 ramdisk takes care of setting up loopback devices
[13:02] <ubptgbot> <Vera Lucia Gold> (Photo, 495x834) https://irc.ubports.com/uFz3wq4D.png OMG
 @Mister_Tails121 [Developer: I know, but the date (rootfs) should change according to the installa …], For some reason, the system section which where the previous axis was located is not formatted in it, the old axis after installing unports installer
 that's normal
 @Vera Lucia Gold [<reply to media>], SPAM
 write in Halium group please, it's really offtopic here
 Also report the message on Telegram so they can delete the account.
 @NotKit [write in Halium group please, it's really offtopic here], Can you drop a link to the group please?
 @halium
 Thanks
[13:36] <ubptgbot> areidx was added by: areidx
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/drul1VUx.png Does anyone know any solution to the problem with Bluetooth mouse? It stucks on "Connecting...". With Android, that mouse works.
 @vtsoft [<reply to media>], what device?
 @Shakendo [what device?], Nexus 5
 BT on UT in general does have issues with connecting to some things, such as car infotainment systems, I would say turn BT off wait 10 seconds then turn it back on and try again, if it still doesnt connect then your mouse may be one of those device UT has trouble connecting to with BT
 General questions, are there any good, affordable bluetooth mice on the market?
 [Edit] General question, are there any good, affordable bluetooth mice on the market?
 Logitech M350...XD
 Can use Bluetooth & USB receiver
 @Shakendo [BT on UT in general does have issues with connecting to some things, such as car …], However, It's seems it might be better with next OTA
 yeah, but it could still have some issues cause as (I think it was) Dalton said, we dont own every single device on the market, so we cant say for sure
 @wayneTBT [Even though SSH access is enabled in the phone.  I need to go to the terminal an …], The next time you have to do this, have a look at what shows up for SSH in UTTT.  The switch there represents the current state of the SSH service.  If it's already enabled, then there may be some other network issue plaguing you.
 @vtsoft [<reply to media>], what version of BT does it use? and is it BLE? … my mouse has a BLE and 3.0 mode and only 3.0 works well
 @Javacookies [I was expecting that confusion 😅 … mircast is for recording UT's screen … mirAcast …], *Mirscreencast, @javacookies you did that purpose didn't you :p … @wayneTBT glad to hear
 @mintphin [tried to do what you said and now the terminal app is crashing @Javacookies], I got a custom vim layout from myii if you want to try
 @Fuseteam [*Mirscreencast, @javacookies you did that purpose didn't you :p … @wayneTBT glad …], no, I expected that confusion from me because  I really forgot the name 😂
 Lol
 [Edit] Lol sure you did 😂
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/309CdDyq.json
 Fwd from imraniqbal: Put that under … ~/.config/ubuntu-terminal-app/Layouts/
 @mintphin you can ofcourse customize it to your liking
 @imraniqbal [The next time you have to do this, have a look at what shows up for SSH in UTTT. …], Thanks for your reply.  UTTT shows SSH as enabled.  If I try to SSH to the phone, connection refused.  When I go to the terminal app in UT and type 'sudo service ssh start' and then go back to my pc and and SSH into the phone, it works fine.
[15:22] <ubptgbot>   It just seems like weird behaviour to me.
 @wayneTBT [Thanks for your reply.  UTTT shows SSH as enabled.  If I try to SSH to the phone …], Here's something you can try, to exclude the SSH service itself as the actual problem: try pinging the device from your PC.  If that doesn't work, try pinging your PC from your device.  If you get ping responses, SSH should work without need
[15:24] <ubptgbot> ing to be "re-enabled".
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], UTTT should offer prebuilt layouts for the terminal … @imraniqbal  what do you think? 😁
 Uh-oh 🙈
 @Javacookies [UTTT should offer prebuilt layouts for the terminal … @imraniqbal  what do you thi …], Interesting idea; shouldn't we be enhancing the Terminal app itself with layouts?  Or are we speaking about everyone having their own custom OSK layouts?
 Couldn't the terminal offer prebuilt layouts for the terminal?
 It already does but we need more :p
 @imraniqbal [Interesting idea; shouldn't we be enhancing the Terminal app itself with layouts …], well it would be better if it's in the terminal itself … I'm just thinking of protoyping it in UTTT 😅
 Tho tbh if the terminal had sticky modifiers that would take care of my needs
 Not sure what it needs to do that tho
 Already opened a issue about it a while ago fwiw
 @UniversalSuperBox [Couldn't the terminal offer prebuilt layouts for the terminal?], One issue I can see, though — my Vim layout is specific to my personal Vim configuration and wouldn't work perfectly for another user who has their own Vim configuration.
 Same with me hehe
 So it needs a better editor or impprter of sorts?
 Unless the Terminal app itself handled whatever custom layouts you'd like added.
 I suppose that one approach
 [Edit] I suppose that's one approach
 @UniversalSuperBox [So it needs a better editor or impprter of sorts?], I'd suggest the main issue is just knowing that it can be done in the first place — so if the Terminal app could allow me to manage custom layouts, I could supply as main or few as I liked.
 @UniversalSuperBox [So it needs a better editor or impprter of sorts?], [Edit] I'd suggest the main issue is just knowing that it can be done in the first place — so if the Terminal app could allow me to manage custom layouts, I could supply as many or few as I liked.
 Yes, and currently it can only be done if you know how to place your files in the exact folder
 That's right, I believe that's the main issue.
 the shortcuts i miss are the alt-shortcut but adding to my vim la— maybe i should make a alt layout hmmmm
 @Federica Galli [The point is that I don't have an android, i have an iphone and if i install UT …], Fdroid for most things but obviously not Whatsapp
 [Edit] the shortcuts i miss are the alt-shortcut but adding to my vim la— maybe i should make an alt layout hmmmm
 Okay, implementing content-hub and a file picker will be about as difficult in yhe terminal as in the tweak tool
 @UniversalSuperBox [Okay, implementing content-hub and a file picker will be about as difficult in y …], Oh, one other issue is validating the JSON.  It would be excellent if that could be done as part of the process, rather than users scratching their heads when it doesn't work.
 Also the same difficulty in tweak tool or the terminal
 @Fuseteam [the shortcuts i miss are the alt-shortcut but adding to my vim la— maybe i shoul …], Why not edit the Vim layout with your own preferences?
 so maybe some kind of a repo of community-created layouts
 I'd suggest just implementing layout import from content-hub first, then implement throwing the layout out when it fails to load
 Then deletion of layouts you've imported
 @imraniqbal [Why not edit the Vim layout with your own preferences?], I did, if added all the shorcuts i wanted to that one layout it would make it unwieldly as it would add at least 96 alt shorcut iirc
 yeah, that's a good start I guess
 @Javacookies [so maybe some kind of a repo of community-created layouts], This sounds like an interesting idea; they might not be exactly what you're after but would be a decent starting point for making your own custom layouts.
 and maybe an option to make the bar 2 rows? … there are extra vertical space with the pinephone 😄
 so who's up for doing it? 😁
 @somebody
 XD
 Wait i think i tried alt shortcuts but they didn't work yet due to how the terminal currently works lol
 @Fuseteam [Wait i think i tried alt shortcuts but they didn't work yet due to how the termi …], Are you sure?  I've got ~6 `alt` shortcuts in the Vim layout and they appear to work fine...
 (Photo, 606x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/DFK09Mps.png Screenshot (7 jun. 2020 18:23:37)
 Almost here
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/AjQjwdVZ.webp
 Still waiting for asendia updates :(
 Today is 7th so... maybe forum post will be updated soon, or not ... all depends on asendia  :(
 patience
 the longer it takes, a better UT we will get
 Yees, it makes  sense, but anyway, some clear estimates will be good for me  :)
 it's bummer though that there seems to be a hardware issue that stops video out on working. Would have been great for UT 😭
 what? really?
 that will suck badly
 but there's no official statement yet I think … I'm not sure about the exact details 😅
 @vtsoft [<reply to media>], I don't own the device, but maybe you can try ```bluetoothctl``` and see if you can connect...
 Please refrain from spreading possible misinformation until Pine officially makes a statement.
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 it doesn't looks good
 @jackiemoore [Please refrain from spreading possible misinformation until Pine officially make …], Yes, we all  have to wait for notification from Lukasz
 lets wait then
 @jackiemoore [Please refrain from spreading possible misinformation until Pine officially make …], Misinformation about what
 hope for the best
 @pizzabroodje [Misinformation about what], Not stirring the pot. Sorry! Read past messages if you want more information.
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0Pm7kgVm.png whats wrong? Can i'm install android app on my device , without PC? Mido
 is anbox installed and running?
 @dohbee [is anbox installed and running?], Yeah i think
 @jackiemoore [Not stirring the pot. Sorry! Read past messages if you want more information.], i wouldn't call asking questions about support or stating something doesn't work, on someone's own existing pinephone device, either misinformation or stirring the pot
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/MYIMPmdF.png But icon is not showing
 pull down to refresh
 you should have the android clock and settings apps for example
 I will restart it
 i don't know if anbox even works on that device
 And i feel confused , how to install Android app
 well install f-droid, aurora droid, aurora store, etc… apk with adb, then you can run that directly in anbox to install apps
 assuming you can get anbox to work
 @dohbee [well install f-droid, aurora droid, aurora store, etc… apk with adb, then you ca …], Giveme tutorial for it , i'm a newbie on Linux and Ubuntu 😂
 i guess you need to ask the porter of your device about whether anbox works on it or not. but anbox on UT is very experimental still
 most of the docs in general at https://docs.anbox.io of course should apply
 @dohbee [i guess you need to ask the porter of your device about whether anbox works on i …], Okay , thanks , i will go xda post for seeing
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 hi
 @imraniqbal [Are you sure?  I've got ~6 alt shortcuts in the Vim layout and they appear to wo …], Well not in the way i intend them to work anyway :p … I use alt shortcut with the "alt sends escape" feature on other terminals, the ut terminal doesn't seem to send escape
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 How can i buy the pinephone ?
 Hi, I want to sideload a zip from my pc to my nexus 5. How can I do that from the Ubuntu touch recovery settings?
 Ubuntu Touch is not Android, you cannot sideload Android zips to it.
 @Dennis [How can i buy the pinephone ?], The PinePhone is currently out of stock, you will need to wait for the next batch
 @UniversalSuperBox [Ubuntu Touch is not Android, you cannot sideload Android zips to it.], 👍 Can I flash an img with fastboot instead?
 What exactly are you trying to do?
 I want to switch from UT to Lineage (I need nfc).
 Install LineageOS using the instructions on their website
[20:41] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Dennis [How can i buy the pinephone ?], It's sold out, but there's another project: https://volla.online/ (also sold with ubuntu touch)
 Well, that's we're I'm stuck: the instructions say to sideload to the devicrm
 You'll need to download and use TWRP for your device
 [Edit] Well, that's where I'm stuck: the instructions say to sideload to the devicrm
 Why can't I flash directly?
 Because the UBports Recovery is not an Android recovery and doesn't correctly implement the needed things to install Android ROMs
 @Federica Galli [It's sold out, but there's another project: https://volla.online/ (also sold wit …], Deliver will be in October or November.. there's another option to get faster a ubuntu touch phone ?
 @Ghrfr [Well, that's where I'm stuck: the instructions say to sideload to the devicrm], pretty sure the first thing the instructions mention TWRP
 Are you sure trwp can be installed then? The install is with fastboot flash too
 yes
 fastboot is to flash recovery, adb is once booted to recovery to sideload the image
 @dohbee [pretty sure the first thing the instructions mention TWRP], Https://Wiki.Lineageos.org/devices/hammerhead/install
 @dohbee [pretty sure the first thing the instructions mention TWRP], [Edit] Not mentioned here: … Https://Wiki.Lineageos.org/devices/hammerhead/install
 @Ghrfr [Not mentioned here: … Https://Wiki.Lineageos.org/devices/hammerhead/install], literally the second instruction https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/hammerhead/install#installing-a-custom-recovery-using-fastboot
[20:49] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Dennis [Deliver will be in October or November.. there's another option to get faster a …], i've bought a 2nd hand OnePlus 1.
 I'm so blind. Sorry man
 @Federica Galli [i've bought a 2nd hand OnePlus 1.], Thank you :) I give it a try to flash by myself
[21:03] <ubptgbot> Виктория Мещерякова was added by: Виктория Мещерякова
 I don’t understand why everyone so desires the pinephone. Its only advantage is the native drivers (without libhybris). I understand why someone buys a pinephone if he needs a reference device for development ubuntu touch/postmarketos, but if he needs a smartphone for developing software for operating system (like a messenger or a calculat
[21:05] <ubptgbot> or) and phone for everyday use it's not a good choice because of its poor performance and high price.
 Guys, in which programming language dev can make an app for ubuntu touch?
 [Edit] Guys, in which programming language a dev can make an app for ubuntu touch?
 @vtsoft [I don’t understand why everyone so desires the pinephone. Its only advantage is …], So which phone do you prefer for everyday?
 @GuyFawkes [Guys, in which programming language a dev can make an app for ubuntu touch?], https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/index.html
 @Gogi [https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/index.html], Thanks
 @vtsoft [I don’t understand why everyone so desires the pinephone. Its only advantage is …], high price? it's $150. brand new. i paid $800 for a google pixel
 @dohbee [high price? it's $150. brand new. i paid $800 for a google pixel], 350 for pixel 4a
 anyway, the performance is being improved
 and buying the pinephone actually supports the community, and you avoid the android compatibility complexities
 That right there. Perfectly stated!
 [Edit] That right there. ^^ Perfectly stated!
 if you think it's not for you, that's fine, but the comments of "why would anyone buy this?" are just not helpful and a bit rude toward those of use working toward a more open future in mobile devices
 (Photo, 665x484) https://irc.ubports.com/nOJWBpxM.png Okay, let's look on other devices that can run ubuntu touch...
 @vtsoft [<reply to media>], "poor performance" is debateable and also relative. If the phone can makes calls, send messages, browse the internet and play Youtube videos with ease. Then I think most will agree that it is not "poor performance"
 If you just want to develop for UT then you can buy a used Nexus5, sure.
 [Edit] If you just want to develop for UT then you can buy a used Nexus 5, sure.
 @vtsoft [<reply to media>], only look at them if you're considering original retail. remember those devices also have problems, such as the failing power and volume buttons on nexus 5, etc…
 @JJW88 ["poor performance" is debateable and also relative. If the phone can makes calls …], some optimizations can help make it usable in 2020, but can’t the development always stand still, ensuring the operation of devices with SoC from 2012-2013? it’s very strange to release this now. Postmarketos aiming 10 year life-cycle for smartphon
[21:29] <ubptgbot> es, and this cycle for pinephone is ending now.
 @vtsoft [some optimizations can help make it usable in 2020, but can’t the development al …], if you don't like it and don't want to support the community that way, then fine, don't buy one. but please stop with the rhetoric of your personal opinion because it doesn't apply to everyone
 if you want to complain about performance and pricing, maybe direct your consternation in a different direction, like the Librem 5, which has roughly the same specs as the PinePhone, but is about five times the price
 but anyway, it's really off topic here. whether you want to buy one or not is up to you. no need for you to rant about it in here
 Man I miss my nexus 5
 I'm getting a new phone soon and heard that there's an (unofficial?) version of ubports for mido, I'm so excited to test it!
 @Dennis [Thank you :) I give it a try to flash by myself], That phone is fine but you can check the whole list
 https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 Which phone will be good too for normal using ? Oneplus one is not available anywhere..
 Xperia X is great. You may even find unused
 OP3 and OP3T
[21:52] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> Still, you might want to try with a cheap 2nd hand OP1 first, and if you like UT then you can think of something new and more expensive. Like maybe the Volla phone in November.
 photography.ubuntu-touch.io if the camera is of interest
 A question about the devices page, how is the maturity score decided? Is there some rules to define it, or is it more a feeling thing?
[22:52] <ubptgbot> <Виктория Мещерякова> (Photo, 440x800) https://irc.ubports.com/z0DebfTR.png SUPER
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[23:02] <ubptgbot> <Alexey Gridnev> Hi! Got a question: is "ubports" channel on LBRY actually yours? Or is someone just uploads your streams there?
[23:05] <ubptgbot> <Alexey Gridnev> *uploading
 It's ours
 is there any special magic needed to reach a OnePlus 3 over adb?
 it wont show up
 @matv1 [is there any special magic needed to reach a OnePlus 3 over adb?], On Windows or Linux?
 linux
 whats that other OS you said? any good ??
 jk
 hm, a first step would be to check if you even see anything in dmesg when you plug it in
 maybe try `adb kill-server; sudo adb start-server`, might be udev rules
 @matv1 [whats that other OS you said? any good ??], no
 kill and restart adb server doesnt help :(
 dmesg tell me nothing either excpet it does see the device being attached
 cables are all good. if i attach the Pro5 its perfectly happy to adb to it