[00:00] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Scanners
[00:01] <oerheks> p0a, cheese, obs ..
[00:01] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/obs-studio
[00:02] <adam4567> OK. Will look at Sane first. Thank you oerheks
[00:02] <p0a> oerheks: thank you
[00:04] <adam4567> I can see  sane-pygtk  there. Mbe that's it. Off to ..community/Scanners now
[00:14] <peter22222> hi... my in nautilus my gnome-online account doesnt accept self signed ssl certificates... what can i do?
[00:17] <p0a> peter22222: what are you trying to do?
[00:18] <peter22222> p0a I installed a nextcloud on my ubunt 20.04 and i did a self-signed certificate. now i want to mount my nextcloud with gnome-online-accounts... but it says "HTTP error: not acceptable tls certificate"
[00:19] <peter22222> i can add the account, but cannot use nautilus to mount the folder
[00:21] <p0a> peter22222: there seems to be some solutions online for this problem
[00:21] <p0a> peter22222: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/how-to-remove-a-certificate-exception/62747
[00:22] <p0a> I may be not answering you correctly but feel free to read the link and see if it helps you
[00:23] <p0a> also, gnome-online-accounts has its own IRC channel, see https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeOnlineAccounts "Getting in Touch"
[00:25] <adam4567> re scanner software,  xsane  has been suggested.
[00:26] <peter22222> p0a thank you!
[00:26] <peter22222> :-)
[00:27] <Intelo> How do I get rid of kdeinit5 http.so proccess squeezing my cpu. I am on kubuntu, installed xfce and logged in on it but this process is still there?
[00:54] <bray90820> How much resources does cron actually use because I was thinking of thing of setting up cron to run every few seconds
[00:54] <bray90820> Would that be advised or no
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know if a way to setup temporary key binding maps, for example to setup keys e and c to do PgUp and PgDown, and can be easily restored later?
[01:27] <HyperTables> I'm trying to run emacs in tightvncserver and connecting to it from a mac with TigerVNC with a PC keyboard attached to the mac. And M-x doesn't work. any ideas?
[02:30] <fancyfetus> Hi everyone. My google-fu is failing me here. I have a tiny little ubuntu-server VM running that I want to use to do some simple scripting. How can I make it start up and boot into root automatically without me having to enter anything?
[02:31] <fancyfetus> Right now the default user isn't root, it's an account with sudo abilities. But I specifically want to not enter a password on boot and have it automatically log in to root.
[02:44] <ash_worksi> do you use keepass?
[02:45] <fancyfetus> me, ash_worksi?
[02:46] <ash_worksi> fancyfetus: anyone
[02:46] <ash_worksi> fancyfetus: just seeing what other people do
[02:46] <fancyfetus> I use 1pass
[02:47] <ash_worksi> thanks fancyfetus
[02:48] <ash_worksi> fancyfetus: what do you like about 1pass over keepass?
[02:48] <ash_worksi> (or any other PM)
[02:49] <fancyfetus> I haven't used keepass, but I have used lastpass
[02:49] <fancyfetus> 1password has a much cleaner interface
[02:49] <fancyfetus> And once I switched to ios, it integrated much better with everything
[02:50] <ash_worksi> I see; apparently it also offers "throw away passwords" over keepass
[02:50] <ash_worksi> dunno what exactly that means though
[02:50] <fancyfetus> Doesn't keepass give you the option to store your passwords locally?
[02:50] <ash_worksi> fancyfetus: keepass is local only actually
[02:51] <ash_worksi> or rather, it's not online
[02:51] <ash_worksi> (not like DashLane)
[02:51] <fancyfetus> That could be a benefit. 1pass is only online afaik
[02:51] <ash_worksi> but according to this chart, 1pass is offline only too
[02:51] <ash_worksi> so maybe this chart is wrong
[02:51] <ash_worksi> or out of date
[02:51] <ash_worksi> https://www.howtogeek.com/240255/password-managers-compared-lastpass-vs-keepass-vs-dashlane-vs-1password/
[02:53] <fancyfetus> I think that's out of date, hmmm
[02:53] <ash_worksi> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:53] <fancyfetus> Looks like 1pass CAN be local though
[02:54] <fancyfetus> Still, i mainly use it for the interface
[02:54] <ash_worksi> have you used keepass?
[02:54] <ash_worksi> or rather, when you say it integrated nicely, are you referring to over keepass?
[02:54] <fancyfetus> over lastpass
[02:54] <fancyfetus> I haven't used keepass
[02:54] <ash_worksi> ah i see
[02:55] <ash_worksi> well thanks for your input
[02:56] <ash_worksi> I know people don't want to answer questions like that because they're based on so much arbitrary opinion, but it helps me and so long as people don't turn it into a flame war I think it's fine
[02:56] <ash_worksi> at least imo
[02:57] <ash_worksi> I wish it were a normal thing for browsers to automatically generate ids on various text nodes
[02:58] <ash_worksi> so you could always just link someone directly to a section in an article
[03:46] <mixfix41> im stuck at the ubuntu grub screen and im not sure how i can get it to boot focal-desktop-amd64 i did add 32bit EFI boot file and it use to go
[03:46] <mixfix41> i can enter commands like insmod and some other ones i need to dig out
[04:29] <tripelb2> Does i3 use xwindows
[05:36] <Intelo> How do I get rid of kdeinit5 http.so proccess squeezing my cpu. I am on kubuntu, installed xfce and logged in on it but this process is still there?
[06:02] <Intelo> What is gdm3 and lightdm ?
[06:04] <akem> Intelo, login managers.
[06:04] <akem> When you boot up, the thing that ask you for your login and password.
[06:04] <akem> Graphically.
[06:05] <Intelo> k
[06:05] <Intelo> To have vnc on ubuntu-server, do I need a login manager?
[06:05] <akem> No.
[06:06] <Intelo> FOr that also, do I need xfce or desktop env or xorg is just enough?
[06:06] <akem> If you wanna use VNC, you usually want a windows manager or a desktop like xfce yeah.
[06:07] <akem> Otherwise you cannot manage windows :P
[06:08] <akem> You need xorg, or eventually wayland if it's supported, a desktop/wm, then you can run your VNC server, and use it easily/normaly.
[06:23] <ducasse> tripelb2: yes, but there is also a related project for wayland called sway
[06:26] <Intelo> akem: http://i.imgur.com/zDrRAGD.png
[06:26] <Intelo> akem: a) I cannot just use xorg ? I need a desktop env like kde or xcfe?
[06:27] <Intelo> akem: b) any clue why this happens
[06:46] <akem> Intelo, Yes you need a desktop or a WM otherwise you will get problem to get focus and you won't be able to move windows.
[06:46] <Intelo> akem: making xstartup +x solved
[06:46] <Intelo> akem: thanks!
[06:47] <akem> Intelo, Cool ;)
[07:03] <snake-venom> my system resolution 1366x768 max , any how can i increase it to 1920x1080 ?
[07:03] <snake-venom> 0:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 620 (rev 02)
[07:03] <snake-venom>  
[07:05] <akem> snake-venom, Go to settings, devices > screens.
[07:05] <akem> Or you can change it with arandr too.
[07:06] <snake-venom> :) akem thanks but max 1366x768 max showing
[07:06] <akem> snake-venom, Try arandr.
[07:06] <akem> You may have to install it first: apt install arandr.
[07:07] <snake-venom> akem, installing..
[07:07] <akem> And then you go in the menu, the name of the screen, then it will shows all possible resolutions.
[07:07] <snake-venom> 1366x768 max showing
[07:08] <akem> snake-venom, Then you can't go beyond that with your current drivers.
[07:08] <akem> snake-venom, Is it a laptop?
[07:08] <snake-venom> ah ic, yes its laptop
[07:09] <snake-venom> cant any driver installation help me in this ?
[07:09] <akem> The max resolution is choosen from the max of the display panel, this is your native resolution.
[07:09] <akem> You can go higher on HDMI, if you plug a screen that can go higher.
[07:10] <snake-venom> means another screen i need to attach  ?
[07:10] <akem> Yeah.
[07:11] <EriC^^> snake-venom: yes the resolution depends on the screen as mentioned, if the screen supports 1080 you can run it only
[07:11] <snake-venom> hm ok thanks, seems more cost to me :(
[07:14] <EriC^> snake-venom: see the laptop specs to know what it can support
[07:19] <akem> How can i tell if the laptop lid is closed from the terminal? (ssh session)
[07:21] <EriC^> akem: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/148197/determine-status-of-laptop-lid
[07:24] <akem> Awesome, thanks EriC^, i couldn't find it, my bad search skill :P
[07:52] <Intelo> I am running xfce. I still see kdeinit5 http.so in top despite I am not in kde (I just have it installed). It takes much resources. How can I get rid of it?
[08:21] <oxyblade> hi) ubuntu friends have a good day)
[08:29] <tommy``> is anyone here using tilix?
[08:46] <mesaboogie> tommy``: yes
[08:47] <tommy``> mesaboogie: you installed with apt or from github?
[08:47] <mesaboogie> apt
[08:47] <tommy``> do you have in your .config folder the tilix folder themes?
[08:47] <mesaboogie> never looked
[08:48] <tommy``> could you check please?
[08:48] <mesaboogie> no
[08:49] <tommy``> ook
[08:49] <ducasse> tommy``: this would be much easier if you would explain your problem
[08:50] <tommy``> i don't know why i don't have tilix folder on .config for installing themes
[08:54] <ducasse> is there a .tilix folder in your homedir?
[08:56] <tommy``> nope
[09:02] <ducasse> i expect you can  just create it under .config, though
[09:03] <eliyahutbr> Hey guys, is there something similar to "System Monitor" that allows me to see (in GUI) what is going on with my network connection(s)?
[09:03] <mesaboogie> yes, creating and placing the new themes .json works tommy``
[09:03] <tommy``> mesaboogie: you created on your .config?
[09:04] <tommy``> i found that the folder is in /usr/share/tilix/schemes
[09:04] <mesaboogie> ducasse: mkdir -p ~/.config/tilix/schemes/
[09:04] <mesaboogie> tommy``: ^^^
[09:04] <JimBuntu> eliyahutbr, you are looking for an alternative to the system monitor? What specifically do you want to see about your network?
[09:04] <tommy``> what's that "^^^" ?
[09:05] <mesaboogie> tommy``: means that sentence was for you instaead of ducasse
[09:05] <tommy``> ah :o
[09:05] <eliyahutbr> JIMBuntu, I want to see what apps are using the network
[09:09] <JimBuntu> eliyahutbr, Ok, I understand now. I'm not aware of a GUI that lets you see what programs are using the network interfaces via GUI. I'm sure there is one out there though :)
[09:28] <Viking667> Quick question, where would I download a .src.deb from? I need to go compile tightvnc as an rpm instead.
[09:28] <eliyahutbr> JimBuntu, anyway I can see this via terminal?
[09:29] <ledeni> eliyahutbr:try etherape 'sudo apt install -y etherape'
[09:30] <Viking667> hm, I'd forgotten about that, too used to wireshark, I guess.
[09:30] <eliyahutbr> dude! this is awesome. thanks ledeni!
[09:46] <akem> What lightweight image viewer can you suggest me please?
[09:49] <akem> Found Viewnior and Mirage.
[10:53] <viktor_> i got a beginner question about port forwarding: if i set the internal IP of my server, and i don't keep it on all the time, can't the internal IP be something else next time?
[11:02] <WaV> viktor_: it's possible. If you'd like to prevent that from happening, you can enable DHCP reservation on your router or set a static IP on that machine in question.
[11:14] <viktor_> Wav, the 2nd is my server's MAC address, right? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/66CxwYSdSB/
[11:15] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:16] <viktor_> BluesKaj: good evening :)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> hi viktor_
[11:16] <viktor_> hi
[11:27] <viktor_> How do i find the MAC address of the host in a SSH?
[11:38] <akik> viktor_: ip link show
[11:39] <amcsi> hey
[11:40] <amcsi> I have this weird issue that occasionally (like every 2 hours) some networking issue would happen to me that approximately 1/3 of the IPs would become unreachable until I unplug and plug back my ethernet cable
[11:42] <amcsi> I would notice this when browsing a website and noticing that it says "This site can't be reached" on a site, that some sites load, but a couple don't. It seems to be completely random, which.
[11:43] <amcsi> This can even cause me to get cut off from Zoom calls
[11:43] <amcsi> I've already confirmed that this is not a DNS issue, because the IP can't be pinged either, and I already tried setting my DNS to 1.1.1.1 and it didn't fix it
[11:44] <amcsi> what could cause this, and how best to go about trying to fix this?
[11:56] <pinheadmz1> hi friends
[11:56] <pinheadmz1> im having trouble with a custom dns server - my server works when I dig @ its ip, but it does not wokr when set in the network settings tab
[11:56] <pinheadmz1> if i set dns to 1.1.1.1 it works
[11:57] <pinheadmz1> but my personal dns server ip wont work in the settings tab
[12:05] <BluesKaj> pinheadmz1, try setting your personal dns in /etc/syatemd/resolved.conf at the DNS= line
[12:05] <BluesKaj> correction /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
[12:07] <pinheadmz1> ok even though im using gnome / gui?
[12:08] <pinheadmz1> is there a reload / reset command as well?
[12:09] <pinheadmz1> looks like dig is still hitting 127.0.0.53, which is not forwarding to my dns
[12:10] <BluesKaj> maybe a logout/login
[12:28] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[12:28] <luna_> hi
[12:28] <raddy> I am trying to setup persistence in my 4GB pen drive
[12:28] <raddy> I don't have a large requirement
[12:29] <raddy> Is it possible to reduce installation size of live image ?
[12:30] <raddy> All the changes like setting wifi password and setting a wallpaper be preserved ?
[12:34] <jeremy31> raddy: I don't think those can be saved
[12:36] <raddy> jeremy31: Really ? then what is the purpose of persistence ?
[12:36] <jeremy31> raddy: you can save text files, pictures and other files
[12:41] <toffe> Hi, I have a question. Can I prepare a disk for raid 1 ahead of time? I've not received disk 2 and just want to prepare raid1 on my first disk so they sync when I get my next disc?
[12:46] <viktor_> i set up a DDNS & trying to connect to host via SSH, but the connection just times out. What am i still missing?
[12:47] <quadrathoch2> raddy, I think you just want to install ubuntu on that usb stick
[12:56] <akem> Anyone knows if it possible to turn my running system into an live USB stick?
[12:58] <akem> "Remastersys" maybe, i see on askubuntu.com.
[12:58] <toffe>  /exit
[12:59] <akem> 4GB file limitation :(
[12:59] <akem> I wanted to put 50 GB installed system on a 64 GB stick.
[13:00] <akem> Well 40 GB.
[13:02] <akem> Tools discontinued.
[13:03] <akem> I wonder why it is not possible to just clone the hardrive partition to a USB stick, and just tweak boot stage :X
[13:12] <EriC^^> akem: you can dd it to a usb and it should run as a full os
[13:13] <EriC^^> akem: you need to take care of the boot loader and that the uuid are the same as in fstab
[13:13] <akem> EriC^^, You try it before? I need to change uuid in fstab and install grub on the USB stick?
[13:14] <EriC^^> akem: if you dd the partition you wont need to change the uuid, my bad, but yes you have to take care of grub
[13:15] <EriC^^> it really depends on if you're using uefi or msdos akem , if you're using uefi you'll need to also make an efi partition and add that to grub, also when you install grub you want to let it install the removable media efi files so that it can boot without having any entries in the uefi list of the pc you plug it into
[13:16] <EriC^^> akem: in theory if you want you could make a usb install that can boot on any pc booting mode, msdos or legacy if that's something you're interested in
[13:16] <EriC^^> *legacy or uefi
[13:17] <EriC^^> *add that to fstab
[13:17] <akem> My USB sticks are 32 GB :X i can't try it now, i need a 64 GB one.
[13:17] <EriC^^> ah
[13:18] <akem> EriC^^, That would be nice yeah, if it could boot in both situation EFI or dos.
[13:18] <akem> EriC^^, I have a EFI partition on my current machine.
[13:18] <akem> There is also Windows 10 installed, but i never boot it.
[13:19] <EriC^^> akem: aha, for that you would need to make the partition table gpt, make a bios_boot 1M partition for legacy booting, and an efi partition for the uefi, and install grub-pc and install grub to the bios_boot, then install the normal grub-efi packages (with the removable media option) for the uefi booting
[13:19] <EriC^^> akem: yeah, windows has an issue with usb installs, ive run into the same problem personally
[13:21] <akem> EriC^^, Do you have some link that details what you just said?
[13:21] <EriC^^> supposedly there are tools out there to make a windows usb, i tried one but it never really booted for me iirc
[13:24] <EriC^^> akem: not really, it's really not that more details, the bios_boot is just a 1M partition with the type "ef02", efi partition should be 300mb or so with type "ef00", you only add efi partition to fstab, then install grub-pc package from a chroot with efi partition mounted, then grub-efi package and run grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --removable --efi-directory=/boot/efi
[13:26] <acresearch> people in ubuntu 20.04 server the default command to run python is python3    how can i change it to python? () because that is breaking lots of my scripts
[13:27] <akem> EriC^^, I don't mind about Windows. That cool, thx for the informations and details, i logged it, i will try it when i get the USB stick.
[13:28] <quadrathoch2> acresearch, you need to rewrite your scripts then. as it could break a lot more than just your scripts to edit the python bin
[13:28] <EriC^^> akem: alright, no problem, ps the grub-efi package you need is 'grub-efi-amd64-signed'
[13:29] <akem> acresearch, Create an alias maybe? or move "python" to something else and symlink it to python3.
[13:29] <akem> Not sure it will work fine, but you can try it.
[13:29] <acresearch> quadrathoch2: i can;t change all my scripts, it is not feasible
[13:29] <EriC^^> acresearch: what does "readlink -f `which python`" give?
[13:29] <acresearch> akem:  how can i change it?
[13:30] <acresearch> EriC^^: readlink: missing operand
[13:30] <acresearch> oh sorry
[13:30] <acresearch> EriC^^: /root/which python
[13:30] <EriC^^> hmm
[13:30] <EriC^^> acresearch: what does "which python" give?
[13:31] <acresearch> EriC^^: nothing
[13:31] <acresearch> which python3 give /usr/bin/python3
[13:31] <EriC^^> seems odd there's no /usr/bin/python there
[13:32] <EriC^^> acresearch: does "dpkg -S /usr/bin/python" give anything?
[13:32] <acresearch> EriC^^: to be honest this python 2 to 3 change is totally terrible,   i mean i like python 3 but that way they choose to perform the transision is poor
[13:32] <acresearch> EriC^^: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/python
[13:34] <EriC^^> acresearch: do you have this installed python3-minimal
[13:34] <EriC^^> it comes up in the manifest of 20.04 server, for me a python minimal package provides /usr/bin/python
[13:34] <EriC^^> this is the manifest fwiw https://releases.ubuntu.com/focal/ubuntu-20.04-live-server-amd64.manifest
[13:35] <EriC^^> try 'apt-cache policy python3-minimal' to see if its installed
[13:36] <acresearch> EriC^^: i am using vultr,   i think maybe they have their own ubuntu setup?
[13:36] <EriC^^> could be yeah
[13:36] <acresearch> dam
[13:36] <EriC^^> you could always just do as akem suggested and make a symlink to python3
[13:37] <EriC^^> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/python
[13:40] <acresearch> EriC^^: nice that solves it
[13:40] <acresearch> EriC^^: thanks :-)
[13:40] <EriC^^> acresearch: no problem :)
[14:42] <mw_> anyone here had problems with their startup scripts not being executed _at_all_? happened a while ago, only annoyance is that my PS1 is not being set up, all i got is the bare bash-4.4$ prompt, both in X terminals and the textmode ttys, feels a bit like blindly wandering around in the dark. could've just set up an alias to set it manually, but that would be forming a bad habit, and i already got too much of those, so here i am suffering. trie
[14:42] <mw_> d all kinds of approaches, straced/ltraced  it - (( echo exit | strace bash -li 2&> strace.txt )) kinda stuff, even inserted log calls way back to /etc/profile, which is the first being read (and it is clearly being opened according to strace) and even that doesn't seem to run. there is an echo > log statement in there to a 666 file and it's empty after a reboot. manually running it appends an entry. i don't even know anymore where the hell m
[14:42] <mw_> y environment comes from. weird.
[14:46] <mw_> what would be your next step?
[14:47] <mw_> i just refuse to wipe it off and reinstall
[14:47] <mw_> it will break again
[14:47] <mw_> hell i miss the good old slackware days
[14:47] <mw_> now every update brings a different login screen
[14:48] <EriC^^> mw_: if you add "echo something" to /etc/profile and run "bash" it doesnt appear?
[14:49] <mw_> ever realized you just typed your password into a username field? because at the last boot it was already selected... or an onscreen keyboard popping out in your face for no reason..
[14:49] <EriC^^> 1 sec
[14:49] <mw_> nape
[14:49] <mw_> nope
[14:49] <mw_> nothing
[14:50] <EriC^^> ok same here, it needs an actual login shell
[14:50] <EriC^^> mw_: what if you add something to ~/.bashrc ?
[14:51] <mw_> if i run it manually it works fine, just not on init
[14:51] <mw_> i have echo > log.log stuff everywhere by now
[14:51] <EriC^^> ok, try 'sudo login' then login does it still show it?
[14:52] <EriC^^> try to add "echo something" in .bashrc
[14:52] <EriC^^> mw_: ah actually for me, with sudo login it doesnt show it, then it shows what i added in ~/.profile
[14:53] <EriC^^> so try adding something in ~/.profile and run "sudo login"
[14:53] <mw_> just did it, straight echo to stdout
[14:53] <mw_> still nothing
[14:53] <EriC^^> mw_: do you have a ~/.bash_profile ?
[14:54] <mw_> nope
[14:54] <mw_> .profile and .bashrc only
[14:55] <mw_> strace: openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/mw/.bash_profile", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[14:55] <mw_> so it looks for it
[14:55] <mw_> and then: openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/mw/.profile", O_RDONLY) = 3
[14:56] <EriC^^> mw_: try "mv ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc.backup"
[14:56] <EriC^^> mw_: then add in ~/.profile at the very top "echo something"
[14:57] <mw_> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/home/mw/.bashrc", O_RDONLY) = 3
[14:57] <mw_> it reads both files properly
[14:57] <mw_> what's the concept?
[14:58] <EriC^^> try it?
[14:58] <mw_> well, why not
[14:58] <EriC^^> that's the spirit :D
[14:59] <EriC^^> mw_: also try "grep mw /etc/passwd" and take a look at the last column
[14:59] <mw_> oh, silly me, i forgot
[15:00] <mw_> this happens to all accounts afaik
[15:00] <EriC^^> aha
[15:00] <EriC^^> that's interesting, but just as a sanity check it's /bin/bash in the last column?
[15:00] <mw_> and even more stunning, there was a brief period when some were still working, while mine was broken
[15:01] <mw_> sure it is
[15:01] <EriC^^> mw_: ok, so after renaming .bashrc and putting echo something in the top of ~/.profile , it's still empty in sudo login ?
[15:02] <mw_> yes
[15:04] <mirak> hello
[15:04] <EriC^^> mw_: ok, try "sudo mv /etc/bash.bashrc /etc/bash.bashrc.backup" and "sudo mv /etc/profile /etc/profile.backup"
[15:04] <mirak> is there anywhere a repo with dingo packages ?
[15:04] <mirak> disco dingo
[15:05] <coconut> Any place i can download ubuntu 19.10 iso ? I cannot find it.
[15:05] <EriC^^> mw_: also see if /etc/environment has anything interesting other than the PATH variable
[15:06] <BluesKaj> coconut, https://releases.ubuntu.com/19.10/
[15:06] <An_Si1224> hallo world
[15:06] <mw_> it's like nothing changed
[15:07] <mirak> ubuntu 19.04
[15:07] <coconut> thnx BluesKaj!
[15:08] <BluesKaj> coconut, all i did was google it
[15:08] <EriC^^> mw_: odd, for me renaming both /etc files and .bashrc but keeping .profile gives an echo when logging in
[15:09] <mirak> hello, I have a ubuntu 19.04, how do I update it to 20.04 ?
[15:09] <mw_> ok, renaming /etc/environment _did_ make a change, so that obviously executes
[15:09] <mw_> echo from your ~/.profile?
[15:10] <BluesKaj> mirak, recommend a clean install
[15:10] <EriC^^> mw_: yeah
[15:10] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | mirak
[15:10] <mw_> i'll run another strace, see how it looks now
[15:11] <EriC^^> mw_: i get the same effect if i run "bash -il"
[15:12] <EriC^^> mw_: in the strace it shows open("/home/e/.profile", O_RDONLY)      = 3
[15:14] <michagogo> Hi, I’m trying to make a live USB drive that also has other partitions on it. I’ve tried Startup Disk Creator as well as a couple different mkusb modes and each time I’ve ended up with just the iso9660(or whatever it was) filesystem on the disk with no partition table to add to. Is there a recommended tool that will create an installation disk _with_ a partition table?
[15:15] <EriC^^> mw_: it seems to open /etc/profile then /etc/bash.bashrc then a bunch of /etc/profile.d/* stuff then ~/.profile then ~/.bashrc
[15:16] <EriC^^> mw_: i get this line read(3, "# ~/.profile: executed by the co"..., 686) = 686
[15:16] <EriC^^> so it opens it, does fstat then reads it
[15:17] <EriC^^> this is the line previous to the read, fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0660, st_size=686, ...}) = 0
[15:18] <frad> after installing python from eadsnake's ppa https://launchpad.net/~deadsnakes/+archive/ubuntu/ppa, ls /usr/bin/python* shows /usr/bin/python3  /usr/bin/python3.8  /usr/bin/python3.9. is it a problem to have 2 versions of python?
[15:18] <mirak> BluesKaj, i will do an upgrade to 19.10, then 20.04
[15:18] <mirak> I did do-release-upgrade and it's what it proposes
[15:19] <akik> michagogo: i've written a guide on how to do it. it includes the ubuntu mate installer + hiren's bootcd https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2020/05/25/how-to-create-a-multiboot-usb-stick-installer-in-linux-mbr-and-uefi/
[15:19] <mirak> I do that in chrooted snapshot anyway
[15:19] <michagogo> Wait, wtf, I just used a mode of mkusb that mentioned making an usbdata partition
[15:19] <michagogo> It did that, and lsblk shows 3 partitions
[15:20] <michagogo> But gparted is only showing one partition and no partition table?
[15:20] <EriC^^> michagogo: this might also be worth a check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[15:21] <BluesKaj> mirak, you backup your data then copy it over after doing a clean install, problt a lot faster unless you have numerous tweaks that you want to save
[15:21] <mirak> I am not in a hurry
[15:22] <mirak> and also I don't remember all specific setups I did
[15:22] <mirak> if there is a command that can tel you all the changes you did, I am interested
[15:22] <michagogo> EriC^^: I think that may be outdated? usb-creator-gtk in Focal definitely didn’t offer me persistence
[15:22] <BluesKaj> ok, i did what you intend once and it worked ok
[15:22] <BluesKaj> mirak,^
[15:22] <mirak> BluesKaj, but I think with a ssd and optical fiber time is not really an issue
[15:23] <michagogo> Also, I’m not looking for persistence within the live environment, just more data partitions
[15:23] <coconut> BluesKaj, and "ubuntu-6.06.2-desktop-amd64.iso" ? (All i duckduckgo find is with Title "ubuntu-6.06.2-desktop-amd64.iso" while file actually is version ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso)
[15:24] <akik> that's vintage
[15:24] <mirak> BluesKaj, also as I said, I always have a multiboot of linux installs with btrfs. So I do a snapshot of the current system and name it to the next ubuntu, then chroot in it, and run the upgrade there.
[15:24] <BluesKaj> coconut, well, sometimes google is needed
[15:25] <mirak> BluesKaj, there is no way I do an ubuntu upgrade without a fallback. There is always something that's wrong and needs time to fix
[15:25] <coconut> BluesKaj, yeah i tried with duckduckgo
[15:25] <EriC^^> michagogo: the later part of the guide mentions how to manually install the iso there "method 3"
[15:30] <mw_> EriC^^, looks like it executes, the number of openat() lines doubles if i place /etc/profile back in place. at the same time it still seems it doesn't,  like if it was in some sort of chroot jail or accidentally ran in a docker container, however that works, i dunno much about it... but i've installed docker and k8s a while ago, altough haven't yet got to really use them
[15:34] <frad> i need your opinion about synaptic: I find it useful, because it lists all names with all possible variations for all possible packages. For somebody with not a sound knwoledge of computing this is very practical. But I find myself cmobining cli and synaptic. For instance: I just upgraded python. I started googling for commands, executing those commands, but ultimately turning to synaptic to check packages names... Is this the wrong way of doing it? I simply
[15:34] <frad> don't know the packages names
[15:34] <mw_> EriC^^, although at some point i've already made the init.d/docker non -x so...
[15:38] <knstn> Guys, if i run either systemd-networkd or NetworkManager, and i want to add a 2nd DNS server, and because i'm lazy i go to /etc/netplan/*.yaml and just add it there, what do i have to restart? NetworkManager/systemd-networkd depending which i use, or reboot the server?
[15:45] <mw_> looks like i'll have to resort to some hack
[15:48] <mw_> can i consider installing windows a hack? at least it's expected to break.. this one, ok, have seen a lot, successfully got through a dist-upgrade, the very first for me that didn't end in total disaster, so in the grand scheme of things, i can't complain that much
[15:50] <mw_> but for fks sake, on a linux box, being unable to debug the startup scripts, let alone properly set a goddamned environment variable on shell init, sooooo enfuriating
[16:05] <sherlock> From the output of `apt list --installed`, how do I know that a package was installed from a ppa? e.g., "golang-1.14-go/bionic,now 1.14.2-1longsleep1+bionic amd64" is installed from longsleep ppa, but that is not very apparent from the string. Is there a cleaner way to do the same?
[16:07] <acresearch> people anyone can understand this error:  https://hastebin.com/cuwutiloku.pl   i don't undertand what is the problem
[16:18] <Luke> i had some script make folders with single quotes in the folder names. How do I remove those directories from the bash cli?
[16:19] <mw_> start to type and press tab? autocomplete takes care of these, at least for me
[16:24] <padhu> I wish to buy all in one monochrome laser printer with wifi for home use which is working in Ubuntu. Please suggest one
[16:26] <StatelessCat> padhu: an HP ? Because of cups + hplip ?
[16:27] <padhu> Any one. But with full functionality
[16:28] <codecutter> not much space left on my virtual server, how do i find the largest files so i can delete them?  => / is using 99.9% of 29.02GB
[16:28] <tomreyn> codecutter: ncdu
[16:29] <tomreyn> codecutter: this shows disk allocation by director,y not latest files.
[16:29] <codecutter> yea, i need the latest files
[16:29] <codecutter> most probably logs
[16:29] <codecutter> this is showing the files inside my home dir
[16:29] <tomreyn> codecutter: logs are usually stored in /var/logs
[16:30] <tomreyn> run it as    suco ncdu /
[16:30] <tomreyn> run it as    sudo ncdu /
[16:30] <tomreyn> log files are usually rotated so they should not keep growing
[16:31] <codecutter> thought so /var where the logs is the largest
[16:32] <tomreyn> if you prefer to look for the latest files, see the !man page for "find" about the -mtime and -mmin   (and -ctim and -cmin) options
[16:34] <codecutter> is it safe to delete everything in '/var/log/journal'?
[16:35] <Luke> mw_: yeah I was using autocomplete to expand them but it still seems to not work
[16:36] <codecutter> '/dev/vda1        30G   28G  1.4G  96% /
[16:37] <tomreyn> codecutter: probably so, but i would not recommend it, since thos logs can provide relevant information. you may want to reconfigure logging instead, and vaccum systemd-journald's database. generally, what's stored there is already well compressed. i'd rather look into what else is consuming most of the disk space, and into options for extending your available disk space.
[16:38] <codecutter> lets see what else is consuming the disk space
[16:39] <tomreyn> codecutter: what's consuming the other 25 GB? 3-10 GB (the latter on a desktop only) will be the OS and applications. but what are the other ~15GB?
[16:39] <Luke> mw_: i used emacs dired mode to delete them. not sure what was going on with the bash autocomplete expansion failure
[16:40] <codecutter> no idea
[16:40] <mw_> Luke: so dired did the job?
[16:40] <Luke> yeah
[16:40] <Luke> thank god :)
[16:40] <codecutter> its defiantly not files that i manually placed there
[16:40] <mw_> good then :)
[16:40] <Luke> ty for the emotional support ;)
[16:43] <tomreyn> codecutter: well, ncdu should hint on it, see which directory below / takes how much, then naviagte through it. most of ubuntu is in /usr/lib, /usr/share and /var/lib
[16:43] <codecutter> there are a lot of 1G files inside  /opt/tomcat/logs/
[16:43] <codecutter> -rw-r----- 1 tomcat tomcat 1G Nov 19  2019 catalina.2019-11-19.log
[16:44] <codecutter> -rw-r----- 1 tomcat tomcat 1G Nov 20  2019 catalina.2019-11-20.log
[16:44] <codecutter> -rw-r----- 1 tomcat tomcat 1G May 27 20:48 catalina.2020-05-27.log
[16:44] <codecutter> -rw-r----- 1 tomcat tomcat 1G Jun  7 16:42 catalina.out
[16:44] <tomreyn> so you seem to have a custom apache tomcat installation there.
[16:45] <tomreyn> by default, apache tomcat creates those date indexed log files, but using ubuntu packages, those would still be written to /var/log and (i think) log rotated automatically, too, so that old files are removed after a while.
[16:47] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/TRxR5xvF
[16:47] <codecutter> old files are being deleted it seems
[16:48] <codecutter> see above pastebin
[16:49] <tomreyn> nov 3, 2019 is > 6 months ago, and those files remain uncompressed. that's not a good configuration, especially if you're short of disk space.
[16:49] <codecutter> lets remove all the files except the most current ones
[16:49] <codecutter> help me fix this
[16:50] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version is this, installed how, which kernel version, why aren't you using ubuntu tomcat packages?
[16:52] <codecutter> i had set up tomcat some time ago, i'm sure i used apt-get for this but not sure
[16:52] <codecutter> anyway help clear files and in the future compress the files and auto remove those too old
 if you prefer to look for the latest files, see the !man page for "find" about the -mtime and -mmin (and -ctime and -cmin) options
[16:55] <tomreyn> !man
[16:56] <codecutter> i find the files
[16:56] <codecutter> see pastebin
[16:56] <tomreyn> you can also use this to look for all files older than ..., then use -exec to run commands against them , or just -delete
[16:57] <Drecondius> does libpng16 support the same calls as libpng12 or do i need to build libpng12?
[16:58] <tomreyn> Drecondius: if they'd export the exact same symbols the packages would likely not have changed name, just version.
[16:58] <padhu>  wish to buy all in one monochrome laser printer with wifi for home use which is working in Ubuntu. Please suggest one
[16:59] <Drecondius> well, png12 doesn't exist, ergo i need to build :(
[16:59] <tomreyn> Drecondius: what makes you ask this, though? usually you won't run into this situation unless you're running some closed source software built for a different OS release on yours.
[16:59] <codecutter> sudo rm /opt/tomcat/logs/catalina.2019*
[16:59] <codecutter> rm: cannot remove '/opt/tomcat/logs/catalina.2019*': No such file or directory
[17:00] <Drecondius> the game Dying Light requires libpng12 only one in the repos, and installed is libpng16
[17:01] <Drecondius> Could I potentially make a link libpng12 - libpng16?
[17:02] <tomreyn> this *may* work.
[17:03] <Drecondius> here goes .... I'll inform if it works
[17:04] <codecutter> why is this command not deleting the files? sudo rm -rf /opt/tomcat/logs/catalina.2019*
[17:04] <sorcerer> why does my audio make like a popping sound everytime i start to play something with audio
[17:05] <sorcerer> its just a quick pop but its annoying cuz it does it everytime so i cant leave my speakers too loud
[17:06] <codecutter> [938971.915768] systemd-journald[386]: Failed to open system journal: No space left on devic
[17:20] <codecutter> i want to delete all files from line 1 -51 https://pastebin.com/nxSX8Npj
[17:20] <codecutter> rm: cannot remove '/opt/tomcat/logs/catalina.2*': No such file or directory
[17:21] <codecutter> sudo rm /opt/tomcat/logs/catalina.2*
[17:25] <tomreyn> !crosspost | codecutter
[17:38] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/Yi94XcXr
[17:38] <codecutter> it was all working last time
[18:00] <xbfrog> can the background pictures that come with ubuntu 20.04 be deleted? i have one thats annoyingly bright
[18:01] <tarelerulz>  if you boot an iso from your hard drive can you use that to install back to the hard drive?
[18:06] <gravitos> so, i've got ubuntu 18.04 bionic on arm64, and when i try to connect to irc using irssi or hexchat, instead of ident (that thing which is uid355353 in my case, set to "gravitos" in both clients) both irssi and hexchat send Unknown, and that means that i can't join some servers which i'd like to.
[18:06] <gravitos> any known ways to fix this?
[18:06] <Trail_> Q: in my /etc/fstab i have several NFS mount points set as noauto so i can mount them as a user. I would like to mount them automatically when i log in to gnome. I've read /config/autostart/ is a good place, however im failing to run a script that does the mounts for me as a user. I created a text file with the mount commands, and a mount.desktop file that is similar to the other .desktop files in there. but i get no result.. is there
[18:06] <Trail_> an easier way to do this?
[18:07] <m2_teknix> any software I can use to make/receive phone calls via my android phone, while I am plugged into ubuntu?
[18:08] <gravitos> m2_teknix: unsure but maybe kdeconnect
[18:11] <joshh> Trail_: so the .desktop file has Exec=yourscript?  and the script is executable?  and then that desktop file is an autostart program?
[18:12] <Trail_> joshh, yes has exec, yes its chmod +x, no i dont see it appear in tweaks... how do i do that?
[18:13] <codecutter> sudo apt remove redis
[18:13] <joshh> that i don't know, was just trying to understand your approach, sounded interesting.  does clicking the desktop file correctly execute it?
[18:13] <codecutter> Package 'redis' is not installed, so not removed
[18:13] <codecutter> sudo apt install redis-server
[18:13] <codecutter> redis-server is already the newest version (5:4.0.9-1ubuntu0.2).
[18:13] <Trail_> josh i didn't know i could execute the .desktop file itself. which btw is not chmod+x nor are the other two that do work
[18:14] <joshh> they are the same files that desktop launchers/menu entries use, i think.  i don't use gnome though
[18:14] <joshh> but you are probably on the right track
[18:14] <tomreyn> !paste | codecutter
[18:15] <codecutter> ok, i'll keep that in mind in future
[18:17] <joshh> codecutter: looks like redis is a metapackage that depends on redis-server but not vice versa, if you're just confused about that or something
[18:17] <codecutter> sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove redis-server
[18:17] <codecutter> worked
[18:19] <codecutter> sudo apt install redis-server
[18:19] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gvGtT7kd3X/
[18:21] <Trail_> thanks, going for a reboot to try new ideas;)
[18:21] <joshh> that looks like it failed to start in the postinst steps for some reason, is an older process still using the port or something?  or does the log have a specific error?
[18:21] <joshh> also you should probably install the redis metapackage
[18:22] <joshh> but that's probably not directly related
[18:23] <oerheks> remove a server, reboot, install the server again to avoid such mishaps
[18:24] <codecutter>  2388 ?        Ssl    0:02 /usr/bin/redis-server 127.0.0.1:6379
[18:26] <knstn> Guys, if i run either systemd-networkd or NetworkManager, and i want to add a 2nd DNS server, and because i'm lazy i go to /etc/netplan/*.yaml and just add it there, what do i have to restart? NetworkManager/systemd-networkd depending which i use, or reboot the server?
[18:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> Hey!
[18:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> I have a amd ryzen 7 4800 cpu paired with nvidia 1660
[18:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> Ubuntu focal isn't recognising the amd integrated GPU
[18:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> Always using the Nvidia card.
[18:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> Any suggestions?
[18:34] <oerheks> maybe your bios gives an option; integrated first, then pciXpress
[18:34] <oerheks> when you put in a dedicated card, bios switches to that card, standard
[18:34] <Deano59> The_LoudSpeaker: 4800?
[18:35] <oerheks> .. and check for bios updates
[18:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> Deano59: yeah a 4800H
[18:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> oerheks: okay. I will check the BIOS
[18:36] <Deano59> oh, a laptop?
[18:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yeah
[18:36] <Deano59> my bios has an option to disable iGPU and use a dedi gpu card, can turn it on/off; ryzen 3200g.
[18:37] <Deano59> try your bios and look for an updated bios as oerheks said.
[18:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> Sure. Thanks!
[18:41] <codecutter> if i do 'redis-server', it starts successfully  but when i do 'sudo systemctl restart redis.service' Job for redis-server.service failed because of unavailable resources or another system error.
[18:41] <codecutter> tried creating the symlink again 'sudo systemctl enable redis-server'
[18:42] <Deano59> codecutter: you sure 100% the systemd service points to "redis-server" ?
[18:42] <codecutter> how do i check?
[18:43] <oerheks> 'enable' is used for starting at boot.
[18:44] <oerheks> else, there is mask/unmask/start/stop/restart
[18:44] <codecutter> sudo systemctl unmask  redis-server.service
[18:44] <codecutter> tried that too
[18:45] <joshh> codecutter: you should't mix using manual start/stop with systemctl, just one or the other
[18:45] <joshh> systemd won't know about your manually started one, etc, it sounds like
[18:45] <codecutter> i need it to start on boot
[18:45] <joshh> and then try to start a new one and have a port conflict
[18:45] <joshh> then just do systemctl enable redis-server, and don't start it manually
[18:47] <joshh> kill the one you started, systemctl enable redis-server to start it at boot, systemctl start redis-server to start it now
[18:48] <codecutter> joshh neither of these work
[18:48] <joshh> even without the old one running?
[18:49] <oerheks> after enable, just reboot.
[18:49] <codecutter> there is no other services running i event tried rebooting to see if redis started
[18:49] <codecutter> service did not start on boot so I tried 'systemctl start redis-server'
[18:49] <codecutter> Job for redis-server.service failed because of unavailable resources or another system error.
[18:50] <joshh> ok so that needs to be debugged then
[18:50] <codecutter> ok, lets go
[18:50] <codecutter> :)
[18:51] <joshh> reboot, systemctl status redis-server, if not active, systemctl start, if that fails, journalctl -xe
[18:51] <codecutter> 1 sec
[18:51] <joshh> also do ps -ef | grep redis
[18:53] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/V8sWMUGQ
[18:54] <codecutter> sudo systemctl start redis
[18:54] <codecutter> does not work
[18:55] <joshh> what does journalctl -xe or the redis log say
[18:56] <codecutter> sudo journalctl -xe -> https://pastebin.com/yMtCMeFA
[18:56] <rjwiii> FINAlLY! .... got my QC35s working ... another device was hogging the A2DP profile ...
[18:57] <joshh> ok, see if there's a /var/log/redis or something, apparently nothing in the systemd log
[18:58] <codecutter> no /var/log/redis
[18:59] <codecutter> i mean its empty
[18:59] <joshh> that is weird
[18:59] <ioria> maybe that's the problem
[18:59] <ioria> codecutter, what's the permission ?
[18:59] <codecutter> if i do redis-server, it starts
[18:59] <codecutter> i'm using sudo
[19:00] <codecutter> so thats not the prob
[19:00] <codecutter> well, i dont to be honest
[19:00] <codecutter> dont know*
[19:00] <ioria> codecutter, ls -l /var/log/redis
[19:01] <codecutter> total 0
[19:01] <joshh> -ld
[19:01] <ioria> codecutter, ls -ld /var/log/redis
[19:01] <codecutter> drwxr-x--- 2 redis redis 4096 Jun  7 18:25 /var/log/redis
[19:01] <ioria> it's ok
[19:01] <joshh> i think the server just didn't write any logs, it must not have even started enough
[19:02] <codecutter> i had to do 'sudo  ls -ld /var/log/redis'
[19:02] <joshh> all you did was install the package and didn't manually do or change anything earlier?
[19:02] <codecutter> well, i was having the same issue with my prev install so I removed it and reinstall using'apt install redis-server'
[19:03] <codecutter> prev version removed with: sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove redis-server
[19:04] <joshh> so it's never worked via systemd on this machine?
[19:05] <codecutter> prev version did, until my last reboot
[19:05] <joshh> i just did sudo apt install redis-server on a focal that's never had it before, or any other redis, and it started up clean
[19:05] <codecutter> ok maybe i should remove it all and do it again?
[19:06] <Deano59> ^ delete the service too.
[19:06] <codecutter> can i have the commands?
[19:06] <Deano59> you're doing something wrong.
[19:06] <joshh> ya, there has to be something wrong or conflicting somewhere, just hard to tell what
[19:07] <joshh> you ever installed, set it up, or started it in any other way in the past?
[19:07] <joshh> also what ubuntu version
[19:07] <codecutter> everything was working perfectly until my l;ast reboot
[19:07] <codecutter> lsb_release -a gives me '18.04'
[19:08] <joshh> there's some difference between you typing "redis-server" and systemd starting it with it's execstart command and whatever other options it looks at
[19:09] <joshh> do you have /etc/redis/redis.conf?
[19:09] <codecutter> it seems to so
[19:09] <codecutter> yes
[19:09] <joshh> ls -l /run/redis/redis-server.pid
[19:10] <codecutter> ls: cannot access '/run/redis/redis-server.pid': No such file or directory
[19:10] <vlek> I have a quick newbie question. I'm switching to ubuntu from win10, I'm trying to figure out where the best place to put things like a VLC plugin before I make/install.
[19:10] <ioria> codecutter, sudo updatedb && locate redis.service
[19:11] <codecutter> '/etc/systemd/system/redis.service
[19:11] <joshh> look at /etc/systemd/system/redis.service and see if anything in there looks broken or changed etc
[19:11] <ioria> codecutter, paste it
[19:13] <codecutter> https://pastebin.com/mE96RmFA
[19:13] <Deano59> codecutter: use "ubuntu paste"
[19:13] <Deano59> "Pastes to https://paste.ubuntu.com/"
[19:14] <Deano59> read the /topic
[19:14] <Deano59> :)
[19:14] <joshh> i have an idea
[19:14] <joshh> you started it with sudo redis earlier, but it's supposed to run as the redis user, as you can see there
[19:14] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h3HQ4wKBsf/
[19:14] <joshh> i bet something it uses got owned by root
[19:14] <codecutter> it did switch to su account
[19:15] <codecutter> do delete some files
[19:15] <codecutter> to*
[19:15] <Deano59> codecutter: is there a user called redis?
[19:15] <codecutter> redis is for the redis-server
[19:15] <Deano59> ?
[19:15] <Deano59> answer the question, please.
[19:15] <joshh> sudo -u redis /usr/bin/redis-server /etc/redis/redis.conf
[19:16] <codecutter> ok
[19:16] <Deano59> you have "User=redis Group=redis" if it doesn't exist, it won't start. change to your username or even root and try again.
[19:16] <vlek> I have a quick newbie question. I'm switching to ubuntu from win10, I'm trying to figure out where the best place to put things like a VLC plugin before I make/install.
[19:17] <joshh> the package should install that user and group
[19:17] <Deano59> not really joshh...
[19:17] <joshh> im guessing there's a perms issue because it has ran as root before manually
[19:17] <codecutter> i did not create user redis
[19:17] <Deano59> codecutter: change to your username/root; "systemctl daemon-reload" and see if it starts...
[19:18] <joshh> the package created the user in my test just now
[19:18] <codecutter> right
[19:18] <joshh> you should have it
[19:18] <joshh> try the sudo command i showed you
[19:18] <joshh> and see if there's a useful error
[19:18] <Deano59> joshh: yeah but wrong permissions etc can cause it not to start via systemd. he should change it.
[19:18] <codecutter> i did this <joshh> sudo -u redis /usr/bin/redis-server /etc/redis/redis.conf
[19:18] <codecutter> next?
[19:18] <joshh> that said, apt-get install --reinstall should fix any wrong perms
[19:19] <Deano59> codecutter: "codecutter: change to your username/root; "systemctl daemon-reload" and see if it starts..."
[19:19] <joshh> codecutter: what did it do?
[19:19] <codecutter> nothing happened
[19:19] <joshh> Deano59: exactly, but he should fix the broken perms instead of starting it as root
[19:19] <ioria> codecutter, check the status again
[19:19] <joshh> codecutter: is there a redis process running?
[19:19] <codecutter>  2166 ?        Ssl    0:00 /usr/bin/redis-server 127.0.0.1:637
[19:20] <Deano59> joshh: indeed but to make sure IT IS a permission error he should change it to his user/root.
[19:20] <joshh> ok, that makes sense
[19:20] <Deano59> codecutter: see above. seems like you're trolling...
[19:20] <codecutter> Deano59 1 sec
[19:20] <codecutter> there is a process running do i stop it?
[19:20] <joshh> yes
[19:21] <joshh> then try to start it again via systemd as root
[19:21] <Deano59> or your user. :)
[19:21] <joshh> ya
[19:21] <codecutter> systemctl daemon-reload as sudo?
[19:21] <Deano59> yes. or root.
[19:21] <joshh> i wonder if you read a blog post that said to do sudo redis or something, and that broke some perms or resources from the package, which didn't get fixed by reinstall
[19:22] <codecutter> next?
[19:22] <joshh> working theory so far
[19:22] <Deano59> codecutter: try and start it. :)
[19:22] <codecutter> sudo systemctl start redis
[19:22] <codecutter> Job for redis-server.service failed because of unavailable resources or another system error.
[19:22] <codecutter> See "systemctl status redis-server.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details
[19:22] <joshh> but when i see "resources error", etc, i think of locks, pid files, ports, etc
[19:23] <Deano59> did you do daemon-reload?
[19:23] <joshh> codecutter: wait, do ls -ld /var/log/redis again
[19:23] <xbfrog> vlek; read your pm
[19:23] <joshh> oh nevermind
[19:23] <codecutter> drwxr-x--- 2 redis redis 4096 Jun  7 19:16 /var/log/redis
[19:25] <ioria> codecutter, time to purge it again and autoremove (and rm /etc/redis/dump.rdb) and reinstall
[19:25] <codecutter> ok lets do it
[19:25] <codecutter> commands
[19:26] <codecutter> i already tried that but this time i'll take your commands
[19:26] <codecutter> just incase i missed anything
[19:26] <ioria> codecutter,  apt purge redis redis-server && sudo apt autoremove --purge
[19:27] <codecutter> done
[19:27] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo rm  /etc/redis/dump.rdb
[19:27] <codecutter> rm: cannot remove '/etc/redis/dump.rdb': No such file or directory
[19:28] <ioria> codecutter,  ls /etc/redis/
[19:28] <codecutter> ls: cannot access '/etc/redis/': No such file or directory
[19:29] <ioria> codecutter,  ls /var/log/redis
[19:29] <codecutter> ls: cannot access '/var/log/redis': No such file or directory
[19:29] <ioria> codecutter,  ps -A | grep -i redis
[19:29] <codecutter> ok
[19:30] <codecutter> nothing
[19:30] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt install --reinstall redis
[19:30] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt update && sudo apt install --reinstall redis
[19:30] <codecutter> not so fast
[19:30] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt update
[19:30] <codecutter> sudo apt install --reinstall redis error
[19:31] <Deano59> no need for reinstall.
[19:31] <Deano59> "sudo apt install redis"
[19:31] <Intelo> I am running xfce. I still see kdeinit5 http.so in top despite I am not in kde (I just have it installed). It takes much resources. How can I get rid of it?
[19:31] <codecutter> wait
[19:31] <codecutter> there is an error on --reinstall line
[19:31] <codecutter> let me get pastebuin
[19:31] <Deano59> yes don't do that codecutter, see above.
[19:31] <ioria> what error ?
[19:32] <Deano59> (no need for reinstall. "sudo apt install redis")
[19:32] <ioria> it's the same
[19:32] <Deano59> he's not reinstalling ioria so it isn't needed.
[19:32] <ioria> i said it'ds the same
[19:32] <oerheks> Intelo, remove kubuntu-desktop^
[19:32] <codecutter> sudo apt install --reinstall redis -> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Kq49Sr4hFb/
[19:33] <Deano59> codecutter: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[19:33] <codecutter> i need to follow one person
[19:33] <oerheks>  14 not upgraded.
[19:33] <ioria> codecutter,  14 not upgraded.
[19:33] <oerheks> really, messing with a server install without proper updates?
[19:34] <ioria> codecutter,  you are updated
[19:34] <ioria> *not
[19:34] <codecutter> what does that mean?
[19:34] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt update
[19:34] <Deano59> "apt update -y && apt upgrade -y && apt install redis" < codecutter
[19:34] <joshh> that was the remove failing
[19:34] <joshh> unless im blind
[19:34] <oerheks> dist-upgrade
[19:34] <Deano59> codecutter: "sudo apt-get install -f"
[19:35] <Deano59> I'm don, gotta go. :)
[19:35] <m2_teknix> On ubuntu 20, I paied my laptop and android phone via bluetooh. I can listen to songs etc but can't speak\listen in calls. Bluetooh connection goes mute
[19:35] <oerheks> and after dist-upgrade, reboot.
[19:35] <joshh> also install redis, not redis-server, next time
[19:35] <oerheks> lots of security fixes lately
[19:35] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Npv573xhTd/
[19:36] <joshh> you missed the 2nd sudo after the &&
[19:36] <Intelo> oerheks: hm but I need it or may switch to it. THe logic I see is that if I am not running kde, why the process in xfce session?
[19:36] <joshh> (it's a whole separate command)
[19:36] <codecutter> oh
[19:36] <codecutter> 1 sec
[19:36] <joshh> actually you need 3
[19:37] <oerheks> Intelo, not sure, some KDE app needs it to function in xfce
[19:37] <codecutter> yea
[19:37] <codecutter> ok done
[19:37] <ioria> codecutter,  please, before install anything, be sure your system is upgraded
[19:37] <Intelo> oerheks: I am not running any kde app. Just session manager is of kubuntu
[19:37] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:37] <codecutter> i usually do this, in fact i'm i ran update
[19:38] <codecutter> i'm sure*
[19:38] <oerheks> Intelo, i said it needs it, you don't need to run that app, it is available when you do
[19:38] <joshh> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo apt remove --purge redis && sudo apt install redis
[19:38] <ioria> codecutter,  and if you got kernel updates, reboot
[19:38] <oerheks> anyway, such small instance should not bother you
[19:38] <codecutter> error on sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:38] <joshh> the remove failed earlier though, you might need to force that step first
[19:38] <ioria> codecutter,  paste the error
[19:38] <joshh> actually yes, the broken package will make your upgrade fail
[19:39] <Intelo> oerheks: sudo apt remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[19:39] <oerheks> joshh, don't give that line. after dist/full-upgrade, he should reboot first
[19:39] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RD6cmG8vQh/
[19:39] <joshh> ok
[19:39] <oerheks> too much nice commands that could bite
[19:40] <oerheks> i used to use that too, including apt autoremove, but that should be done after reboot too.
[19:40] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo dpkg -P  redis redis-server
[19:40] <codecutter> ok
[19:41] <codecutter> done
[19:41] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:41] <codecutter> error
[19:41] <Intelo> oerheks: is that correct command? Will I loose anything  else than kde and its apps?
[19:42] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CswHnbDPbp/
[19:42] <Intelo> oerheks: will I get confirmation on what apps will be deleted? e.g I do not want firefox to be deleted
[19:42] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt-get install -f
[19:42] <oerheks> well, adding a desktop is no problem, removing one is interesting..
[19:42] <codecutter> error
[19:42] <oerheks> one could do a -d dry run
[19:42] <ioria> the same ?
[19:43] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/x3HkNwKy97/
[19:43] <joshh> do you have /var/tmp?
[19:44] <joshh> that's an odd error but you might have deeper issues with this server
[19:44] <codecutter> no
[19:44] <ioria> codecutter,  ls  /var/lib/dpkg/info/initramfs-tools*
[19:45] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fbznRhwrgT/
[19:45] <joshh> /var/tmp should be created by the base-files package, hmm
[19:45] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo mv   /var/lib/dpkg/info/initramfs-tools*  /tmp
[19:46] <codecutter> i may have deleted /var/tmp when i was cleaing up the filesystem
[19:46] <codecutter> i fact i did delete it
[19:46] <codecutter> daym
[19:47] <codecutter> josh: i deleted that directory, i was getting filesystem is full message so I had clean up some old files
[19:47] <joshh> ok, this is good info
[19:47] <joshh> i see
[19:47] <codecutter> oops
[19:47] <joshh> i wonder if you deleted any other dirs that the systemd service depends on, which aren't getting reinstalled by the redis-server package alone
[19:48] <codecutter> no
[19:48] <joshh> try reinstalling base-files at least
[19:48] <codecutter> just tmp
[19:48] <joshh> which is what creates /var/tmp, though systemd writes there
[19:48] <codecutter> ioria done
[19:48] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt-get install -f
[19:48] <codecutter> josh hold that thought
[19:48] <joshh> sure
[19:49] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ghCkddTJw7/
[19:49] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:49] <codecutter> no errors
[19:50] <codecutter> sudo apt autoremove?
[19:50] <ioria> codecutter,  wait
[19:50] <codecutter> ok
[19:51] <akem> Hey, i got this stuff in my dmesg about JFS/raid6/Btrfs ?? however i don't have anything like that on my system, Do someone knows where this originate from?
[19:51] <akem> https://pastebin.com/r06tT1YY
[19:52] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:52] <codecutter> done
[19:52] <ioria> codecutter,  dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ?rc
[19:53] <ioria> codecutter,  dpkg -l | grep -v ^^ii | grep -v  ^^rc
[19:54] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xQzbtp7g8J/
[19:55] <ioria> codecutter,  sorry:  dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v  ^rc
[19:55] <codecutter> nothing
[19:55] <ioria> codecutter,  ok, sudo apr autoremove --purge
[19:55] <ioria> codecutter,  ok, sudo apt autoremove --purge
[19:55] <Deano59> ioria: get a better keyboard. ;P
[19:56] <ioria> yep
[19:56] <codecutter> done
[19:56] <akem> Somone answered me, it grub doing it.
[19:56] <ioria> codecutter,  all good ?
[19:56] <codecutter> yes
[19:56] <codecutter> few warnings
[19:56] <ioria> codecutter,  like what ?
[19:56] <codecutter> no errors
[19:57] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2hBckq6VSx/
[19:58] <ioria> codecutter,  it's ok; sudo apt install --reinstall redis
[19:58] <codecutter> error
[19:58] <ioria> codecutter,  what is ?
[19:59] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dTXPb4ZhMH/
[20:00] <Deano59> at this point I'd give up and re-install 20.04 codecutter :)
[20:00] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo mv   /var/lib/dpkg/info/redis*  /tmp
[20:00] <joshh> almost there but not quite
[20:00] <codecutter> done
[20:00] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt purge redis*
[20:01] <codecutter> Deano59 hehe
[20:01] <codecutter> ok
[20:01] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt autoreme --purge
[20:01] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt autoremove --purge
[20:02] <codecutter> ok
[20:02] <ioria> codecutter,  sudo apt install --reinstall redis
[20:02] <codecutter> error
[20:03] <ioria> codecutter,  the same ?
[20:03] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c6cYnjcdwQ/
[20:03] <joshh> maybe add set -x to the redis-server postinst
[20:04] <ioria> codecutter, sy, i give up for now, sy
[20:04] <joshh> hang on
[20:04] <codecutter> go
[20:05] <codecutter> ioria defeated
[20:05] <codecutter> :)]
[20:05] <joshh> sudo vi /var/lib/dpkg/info/redis-server.postinst
[20:05] <joshh> change the set -eu to set -eux
[20:05] <joshh> then retry
[20:05] <codecutter> i hope he did not think I was telling him to go
[20:05] <joshh> might show more info
[20:05] <codecutter> that was for josh
[20:05] <codecutter> lol
[20:06] <joshh> lol its ok, he knows
[20:06] <codecutter> then?
[20:07] <joshh> the apt install again
[20:07] <codecutter> oh rerun
[20:07] <codecutter> sudo apt install --reinstall redis?
[20:07] <joshh> try just apt-get -f install first, or dpkg --configure -a
[20:07] <Deano59> lol
[20:08] <joshh> not sure offhand whether --reinstall will overwrite the postinst
[20:08] <Deano59> you've got a broken install/os/system. re-install 20.04 and be done with it. ;P
[20:08] <joshh> but yes if this doesn't show a better error, then it just seems like your server is messed up in ways that are tough to tell from irc right now
[20:08] <codecutter> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KGBnJ9G9nG/
[20:09] <joshh> ok the step the of the server itself starting is what's failing
[20:09] <joshh> nothing to do with the install of the package per se
[20:09] <Intelo> oerheks: can't I just turn it off?
[20:09] <joshh> ok
[20:10] <joshh> looks like systemd is actually calling the old style init script though
[20:10] <joshh> actually nevermind
[20:10] <joshh> the postinst did invoke-rc.d which should be systemd
[20:10] <joshh> but there is an old init script on my focal box also
[20:11] <codecutter> it seems a system upgrade is in order here
[20:11] <codecutter> ?
[20:11] <joshh> codecutter: try that out of curiousity, sudo /etc/init.d/redis-server start
[20:11] <codecutter> failed
[20:12] <joshh> oh that script just uses systemctl duh
[20:13] <codecutter> and?
[20:13] <joshh> basically just nothing different
[20:13] <codecutter> system upgrade it is then?
[20:14] <joshh> you should, but one sec
[20:14] <codecutter> ok
[20:14] <joshh> journalctl -u redis-server
[20:14] <joshh> journalctl -u redis
[20:15] <codecutter> ...  redis-server.service: Can't open PID file /var/run/redis/redis-server.pid (yet?) after start: No such file or directory
[20:15] <joshh> ls -ld /var/run/redis
[20:16] <codecutter> ls: cannot access '/var/run/redis': No such file or director
[20:16] <joshh> should have looked at that earlier, figured the journalctl -xe would show everything
[20:16] <joshh> hmm ok
[20:16] <joshh> one sec
[20:16] <joshh> you have /var/run right?
[20:16] <codecutter> yea
[20:17] <joshh> i guess try creating redis dir, drwxr-sr-x 2 redis redis
[20:18] <codecutter> where ? command/
[20:18] <codecutter> ?
[20:18] <joshh> sudo mkdir /var/run/redis
[20:18] <codecutter> this is getting too tedius
[20:18] <joshh> sudo chown redis.redis /var/run/redis
[20:18] <codecutter> ok
[20:19] <codecutter> then?
[20:19] <Intelo> oerheks: it was ktorrent
[20:19] <Intelo> oerheks: thanks
[20:19] <joshh> sudo chmod g+s /var/run/redis (just matching mine)
[20:19] <oerheks> good spot
[20:19] <joshh> drwxr-sr-x 2 redis redis 60 Jun  7 13:12 /var/run/redis
[20:19] <joshh> should look like that
[20:20] <joshh> then sudo apt-get -f install/sudo dpkg --configure -a again
[20:20] <codecutter> drwxr-sr-x  2 redis redis   40 Jun  7 20:18 redis
[20:20] <joshh> this time if it doesn't start again, try journalctl -u redis again
[20:20] <joshh> and see if error is different
[20:21] <codecutter> error on sudo apt-get -f install
[20:21] <joshh> anything new in journalctl -u redis?
[20:21] <Deano59ONE> codecutter: bro, give up and RE-install.
[20:21] <codecutter> nothing
[20:21] <joshh> lol
[20:22] <joshh> damn, wtf
[20:22] <codecutter> Deano59ONE i'm may need to
[20:23] <Deano59> codecutter: by the time it takes to fix your problem, you could have a fresh install with everything working. :)
[20:23] <joshh> might as well, but the more you remember about how you got things broken, the more you can learn from this
[20:23] <Deano59> yep
[20:23] <codecutter> ok, i'll upgrade
[20:24] <codecutter> thx for the try
[20:24] <joshh> you doing clean install?
[20:25] <codecutter> upgrade
[20:26] <codecutter> upgrade
[20:26] <Deano59> no upgrade codecutter, fresh install of 20.04...
[20:26] <Deano59> unless you want more problems.
[20:26] <joshh> you might need to fix the broken package first, or just re-purge it, but i'd also recommend clean install now
[20:26] <codecutter> that will mean getting rid of my setup
[20:26] <Deano59> ^
[20:26] <codecutter> this is a production server
[20:26] <joshh> you can also keep debugging why it doesn't work via systemd, or just start it manually like before if your business depends on that, but then plan to move to a known-good server setup
[20:27] <codecutter> it has to be an upgrade, so give me the pre prep
[20:27] <codecutter> i only have on server setup
[20:27] <joshh> im not convinced an upgrade will fix it more than anything else, but it might.  it could also break your upgrade if that package itself fails
[20:28] <Deano59> yeah I'm gone, gl. :)
[20:28] <codecutter> if you want to continue then lets continue
[20:29] <joshh> weird that there was no new error in journalctl -u redis after fixing that dir
[20:29] <joshh> and that it still failed
[20:30] <joshh> if i were you id keep troubleshooting that though, or do a clean install, but with the way your package manager has already had some inconsistencies, i'd rather just do the starting it manually hack, then  migrate to a better setup, than try an in-place upgrade if you can't afford to lose the server
[20:32] <quadrathoch2> i would suggest to maybe install a new os through debootstrap, configure it, set up everything up, and then reboot the server to the new OS, so you have minimal downtime
[20:54] <codecutter> joshh: give me some pre-upgrade pre prep to increase the chance of this error going away
[20:54] <codecutter> after upgrade
[20:54] <codecutter> i can't afford a fresh install
[21:12] <gravitos> 21:06:10 <gravitos> so, i've got ubuntu 18.04 bionic on arm64, and when i try to connect to irc using irssi or hexchat, instead of ident (that thing which is uid355353 in my case, set to "gravitos" in both clients) both irssi and hexchat send Unknown, and that means that i can't join some servers which i'd like to.
[21:12] <gravitos> 21:06:31 <gravitos> any known ways to fix this?
[21:13] <HickorySmokedBac> Is Ubuntu the best *untu to try and run Steam on?
[21:14] <HickorySmokedBac> Or can Kubuntu/Lubuntu all that do it well?
[21:18] <oerheks> gravitos, some channels block free irccloud users, for a reason
[21:18] <gravitos> not irccloud
[21:18] <gravitos> hexchat and irssi
[21:21] <oerheks> maybe you setup the connection wrong without SASL, ask in #Freenode?
[21:22] <Aavar> Can someone tell me how to renew my dhcp lease on 20.04?
[21:23] <oerheks> dhcp leases are handed out by your router?
[21:25] <WOLF-MAN> hnjmbhj
[21:26] <Aavar> oerheks: yes, but it gives me the wrong ip.
[21:28] <WOLF-MAN> hey
[21:29] <oerheks> Aavar, if you need a dedicated ip , don't do dhcp, set a mac filter on that ip in your router
[21:30] <oerheks> else there is no wrong ip
[21:30] <Aavar> oerheks: Why not? It's easyer to manage ips from one spot?
[21:30] <oerheks> it is not an ubuntu issue, but router\
[21:32] <Aavar> oerheks: It's not an issue... I am trying to release the lease and renew. Or restart the network if you will...
[21:33] <Aavar> It has nothing to do with the DHCP-server...
[21:34] <oerheks> sudo service network-manager restart or systemctl restart systemd-networkd
[21:35] <oerheks> i would stop it, delete the lease in the router, and start again
[21:36] <Aavar> oerheks: thank you. systemctl restart systemd-networkd was what I was looking for :)
[21:36] <HickorySmokedBac> Seems the latest release is an LTS ?
[21:37] <compdoc> \o/
[21:37] <compdoc> I love the LTS!
[21:38] <HickorySmokedBac> Hm Lubuntu hasn't caught up though yet compdoc
[21:39] <HickorySmokedBac> compdoc: Guess I'll try either Ubuntu or Kubuntu and see how native games run off steam
[21:39] <HickorySmokedBac> Now that I moved in to the city with unlimited bandwidth and unmetered
[21:39] <HickorySmokedBac> I don't see why I don't try atleast once to get all machines off Windows
[21:42] <HickorySmokedBac> Looks like Xubuntu caught up with Lubuntu hasn't , I'll try it
[21:52] <codecutter> got it
[21:52] <codecutter> solved
[21:53] <codecutter> removed redis
[21:53] <codecutter> reinstall base-files
[21:53] <codecutter> sudo apt install --reinstall base-files
[21:54] <codecutter> sudo systemctl restart redis.service
[21:54] <codecutter> voila!
[21:54] <codecutter> sudo apt install redis-server
[22:10] <rhagu> Hi, I am running a ubuntu bionic server and saw that udisks2 keeps polling my hdds which prevents spindown, I turned of the service with systemctl stop, can I simply remove udisks?
[22:21] <mirak> hi
[22:21] <mirak> I am upgrading a ubuntu from a chroot
[22:22] <mirak> and i want to upgrade to the next one, but it asks me to reboot, but i don't want to
[22:22] <mirak> can i force do-release-upgrade to ignore that ?
[22:25] <epsilonKNOT> lol
[22:25] <epsilonKNOT> i mean if its asking you to do something you probably should
[22:26] <epsilonKNOT> cuz you don't know the internals of do-release-upgrade
[22:26] <epsilonKNOT> for all you know it might be running cleanup scripts on boot
[22:27] <oerheks> i don't get the  'i don't want to' part
[22:27] <Deano59> Snap.
[22:55] <mirak> epsilonKNOT, I don't want to reboot my host
[22:56] <mirak> it's like needed to reboot your virtualbox host for an upgrade in a guest
[22:56] <mirak> that's not hard to understand
[22:56] <oerheks> the chroot part is interesting
[22:56] <oerheks> why do you need that route?
[22:57] <mirak> going from 19.04 to 20.04 through 19.10
[22:57] <mirak> so I snapshot the running 19.04
[22:57] <mirak> chroot in the snapshot and upgrade it from there
[22:57] <mirak> I always done that
[22:58] <mirak> but I never did two do-release-upgrade in a row
[22:58] <oerheks> 19.04 should not be running, as it is EOL.
[22:58] <mirak> I don't see why it would do cleaning at boot
[22:58] <oerheks> and what makes you think you cannot do a chroot again, fter reboot?
[22:59] <mirak> oerheks, so you where available to do the upgrade on my moms computer ?
[22:59] <mirak> were
[22:59] <mirak> oerheks, what makes you think if i want to boot on 19.10 ?
[22:59] <oerheks> oke, i leave you, good luck.
[22:59] <mirak> I don't want to reboot
[23:00] <epsilonKNOT> are you 5?
[23:01] <epsilonKNOT> i don't want to reboot is not a good reason, you may want to give some better reason then people will be inclined to help
[23:01] <epsilonKNOT> tbf i've not run ubuntu in > 4 years
[23:01] <epsilonKNOT> but i don't think the principle changes
[23:03] <mirak> do you have that file ? /var/run/reboot-required
[23:03] <mirak> epsilonKNOT, just shut up
[23:03] <epsilonKNOT> wow
[23:04] <epsilonKNOT> maybe you need to understand how to ask for help
[23:04] <epsilonKNOT> https://ubuntu.com/community/code-of-conduct
[23:04] <mirak> you already proved you were not gona give me what I want
[23:05] <mirak> so I found what I need, I will just remove that file /var/run/reboot-required
[23:06] <mirak> and this file /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs
[23:07] <mirak> boom
[23:18] <flexyjerkov> hi, got a quick question which im hoping is easy to answer.
[23:19] <flexyjerkov> upgraded to 20.04lts from 18.04lts and since upgrading i'm finding when deleting bulk files it hangs the system
[23:19] <flexyjerkov> this is only when deleting via gui, using rm is fine.
[23:19] <r3dux> how do I install a pkgbuild file in ubuntu?
[23:26] <epsilonKNOT> flexyjerkov: can you see in system monitor what is the program hanging ?
[23:28] <flexyjerkov> once it hangs the entire system just freezes, i think its the file explorer that's doing it though as doing a rm -rf * on the .local/share/trash folder does it in seconds
[23:28] <flexyjerkov> i had tried to ssh via my mobile during a hang to at least get htop up but even that hangs trying to connect
[23:30] <flexyjerkov> appears to only be with Files, using 3.36.2-stable
[23:38] <r3dux> does anyone know how i can install picom/compton-tryone inside of ubuntu? I have it on my arch systems but cant seem to figure it out inside ubuntu
[23:43] <epsilonKNOT> it seems like this is a bug with whatever file manager you are using
[23:44] <epsilonKNOT> can you do something like: nautilus ./ > ~/log.txt 2>&1
[23:44] <epsilonKNOT> this will save all your log information when you've opened you file manager
[23:44] <epsilonKNOT> and try to delete files
[23:44] <epsilonKNOT> flexyjerkov: ^ this way even when it hangs and you hardboot you can get info
[23:46] <flexyjerkov> will give it a shot, just using the default gnome Files program
[23:46] <flexyjerkov> which is Nautilus...
[23:49] <flexyjerkov> epsilonKNOT, whatever the issue was it looks like doing an apt-get upgrade and autoremove and clean up of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ has fixed the issue.
[23:50] <flexyjerkov> might have a scan through old logs to see if i can find the culprit
[23:50] <epsilonKNOT> (~ -.-)~
[23:50] <flexyjerkov> do you know if theres a PopOS specific channel?@
[23:51] <epsilonKNOT> no idea
[23:51] <flexyjerkov> really wishing i didnt /list didn't realise this was such a large network
[23:52] <flexyjerkov> anyway, thanks for the help. i'm going to be off now.