callmepkgood morning01:24
dufluHi callmepk 01:32
callmepkhi duflu 01:55
jibelho all05:43
dufluHi jibel and seb128 05:48
seb128goood morning desktopers05:48
seb128hey duflu, how are you? had a good w.e?05:49
dufluseb128, I'm good but the weekend was pretty average. How was yours?05:49
seb128it was alright, nothing fancy but at least it was relaxing05:50
dufluThough I lost a portion of it when the coffee machine broke. Then I was busy researching, replacing it and rearranging the kitchen05:52
dufluThey don't make/sell the cheap pod machines I use anymore, apparently05:52
seb128coffee is important :) which brand did you pick after your research?06:01
dufluseb128, Delongi(?)06:07
didrocksgood morning06:08
dufluHi didrocks 06:08
seb128duflu, sounds italian :)06:08
seb128lut didrocks, how are you? good w.e?06:08
dufluseb128, made in Romania06:09
didrockshey duflu, salut seb128 ! Week-end sans particularité :) et toi ?06:12
seb128didrocks, un peu pareil, rien de spécial :)06:23
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:40
oSoMoNhappy Monday!06:40
didrockshappy Monday oSoMoN!06:43
dufluHi oSoMoN and luna_ 06:44
didrockshey luna_ 06:44
oSoMoNsalut didrocks 06:52
oSoMoNgood morning luna_, duflu 06:52
marcustomlinsong'day callmepk duflu jibel seb128 didrocks oSoMoN luna_07:18
dufluHi marcustomlinson 07:19
luna_hey didrocks oSoMoN marcustomlinson 07:19
callmepkHi marcustomlinson jibel seb128 didrocks oSoMoN luna_ 07:19
luna_hey callmepk 07:19
oSoMoNmornin' marcustomlinson, callmepk 07:19
didrockshey marcustomlinson 07:20
didrocksand callmepk 07:20
seb128lut oSoMon, t'as passé un bon w.e?07:20
seb128hey marcustomlinson, luna_, callmepk, how are you? had a nice w.e?07:20
oSoMoNseb128, très bon week-end, et toi?07:20
seb128bon w.e, rien de bien spécial mais reposant07:20
marcustomlinsonweekend was bleh to be honest07:21
callmepkgreat! busy getting ready to move to a new apartment. and you seb128 ?07:22
seb128marcustomlinson, oh :(07:22
seb128callmepk, w.e was fine, we didn't do much but at least it was relaxing07:23
seb128well, as relaxing as it gets with little kids around at least07:23
dufluHi Laney08:02
LaneyI liked that style of greeting08:02
dufluI'm freaked out. My doorbell half tried to play Close Encounters08:02
dufluIt plays odd tones depending on interference08:02
* duflu wonders if everyone has been taken by aliens now08:18
luna_is not08:19
marcustomlinsonhey Laney08:22
didrockshey Laney!08:23
Laneyhey marcustomlinson & didrocks 08:23
Laneywhat's up08:24
didrocksnoth special for this new week, and you? :)08:24
oSoMoNduflu, I watched E.T. with my daughter last night, should I check my doorbell now?08:25
oSoMoNsup Laney 08:26
dufluoSoMoN, I'd be more concerned about her anxiety after that08:26
marcustomlinsonI still think it's pretty mad how ET never actually says "ET phone home"08:26
oSoMoNno E.T. emoji?08:28
dufluDon't think so...08:29
duflu   👾08:29
duflu   👾08:29
Laneydidrocks: made some elderflower "champagne", that's about the most interesting thing!08:37
Laneyhey oSoMoN 08:37
Laneyyou good?08:37
didrocksLaney: sounds interesting :)08:40
Laneyshould be yummy08:40
marcustomlinsonLaney: and your house smelt of elderberries?08:44
Laneyyep, still does, got some left over08:44
* marcustomlinson thinks the monty python reference was lost there08:45
LaneyI've never seen monty python08:47
Laneyalong with everything else08:47
Laneywell, actually, I have seen ET08:48
Laneyand Titanic, that's about it08:48
marcustomlinsonand does ET say "ET phone home"?08:48
marcustomlinsonwell I haven't watch a single star trek, apparently that's a bad thing08:52
Laneyhttps://youtu.be/6xZif3WmG7I?t=140 seems so08:52
marcustomlinsonLaney: well done!08:53
oSoMoNLaney, I'm good, thanks!08:53
Laneyyoutubing is probably cheating right08:53
* Laney high fives oSoMoN 08:53
marcustomlinsonI also don't think H. G. Wells books are that great08:53
* marcustomlinson is gonna get shot08:54
oSoMoNmarcustomlinson, that's two of us then (re star trek)08:54
WimpressMorning all o/09:40
oSoMoNmornin' Wimpress 09:44
dufluMorning Wimpress 09:53
marcustomlinsonhey Wimpress10:01
dufluAlso good night10:05
sunweaverahayzen: oerheks: thanks10:48
GunnarHjHello Laney,11:35
GunnarHjWondering if you have any Debian contact to get a new package through the NEW queue. The reason for my question is this:11:35
GunnarHj6+ weeks and still no response.11:35
LaneyGunnarHj: No I don't have any special contacts, sorry. You can try your luck asking in #debian-ftp if you want11:40
GunnarHjLaney: I might.. Are you saying that if the desktop team wants a new package in both Ubuntu and Debian, you need to wait that long? Or maybe you start with Ubuntu only...11:43
LaneyDepends on the situation, we might upload it to Ubuntu explicitly and then sync over when it gets into Debian later on11:43
GunnarHjLaney: I see. Thanks!11:44
seb128kenvandine, jamesh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1881232 sounds like something we should keep an eye on11:59
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1881232 in snapd "AppArmor blocks ibus input when IBUS_USE_PORTAL=1" [High,Confirmed]11:59
jibelxnox, hi, ubiquity 20.04.3 fails to build with a patch against partman-swapfile that fails to apply. Can you have a look?11:59
kenvandineseb128: thx13:00
Trevinhoseb128, Laney: Hey, so for the mutter/adwaita story... I have https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4083.1/+packages ready in theory, but as I was telling seb on friday, the root problem seems to be https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/adwaita-icon-theme/-/commit/2c9109dfb729c0094883f08be2680505d7ed7dad as it makes not load the SVGs, now... we don't care having it in13:45
Trevinhoubuntu I assume, so maybe would be just better to revert this in our adwaita and that's it?13:45
TrevinhoOlivier did it for the SRU13:45
Trevinhoso not sure if we want to preserve this change, although would imply some delta with debian, otherwise we can just include the pngs as I did and we keep less diffs with debian's debian/control13:46
LaneyTrevinho: root issue with what?13:58
TrevinhoLaney: of the mutter build failure13:58
Trevinhowell test failure13:58
Laneyit's built in that silo13:58
Laneywhat's the remaining issue?13:58
TrevinhoLaney: the silo is fine, I was just mentioning that there's another way to fix this, if we prefer that way14:19
Trevinhoif you're fine with that, then please publish it :)14:19
Laneybut you're talking about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adwaita-icon-theme/3.36.1-2ubuntu2 no?14:20
Laneywe could consider dropping the .svgs because of this couldn't we?14:21
TrevinhoLaney: yeah, well if we prefer to have just pngs then the fix I did is fine14:22
LaneyTrevinho: point is we don't *just* have pngs, we have the svgs too, i'm saying those could be dropped to save some space14:23
Laneyor is there some reason to have those?14:23
Laneybah mutter isn't in desktop set either14:24
TrevinhoLaney: well, I think we can drop the svgs if we don't depend in the loader anyway14:25
seb128the sets are about to be updated which should fix adwaita, we should ask to add others problematic ones to the exceptions if needed14:26
Laneythe sets are already updated14:26
seb128Trevinho, so you should have access to upload adwaita now :)14:26
Laneysilo is copied14:26
seb128I don't know much about those icons14:27
seb128but do we have png for all useful sizes? if we drop the .svg isn't that going to create issues at some sizes?14:27
Trevinhoseb128: I don't think, at the end yaru has them all in svgs14:28
Trevinhoso for the desktop as whole, I wouldn't bother14:28
seb128why do we install adwaita at all if yaru has all the icons?14:29
seb128sorry for the naive questions :p14:30
Laneylaney@nightingale> dpkg -L adwaita-icon-theme | grep --color=none svg | xargs ls -1 -l | awk '{print $5}' | paste -sd+ | bc                                                                                                       ~14:41
Laneyits not a huge saving anyway14:41
Laney(yaru might want to think about encoding them to pngs too, apparently its way faster to load those)14:49
hellsworthgood morning desktopers14:50
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 14:50
marcustomlinsonhi hellsworth14:50
hellsworthhi guys!14:51
* Laney nods hellsworth 14:55
* hellsworth raises coffee mug to cheers Laney from a distance14:56
didrockshey hey hellsworth 14:59
hellswortho/ didrocks 15:01
jdstrandjamesh: hey, re bug #1881232, can you comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1881232/comments/1 ?16:39
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1881232 in snapd "AppArmor blocks ibus input when IBUS_USE_PORTAL=1" [High,Confirmed]16:39
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