[01:24] <callmepk> good morning
[01:32] <duflu> Hi callmepk 
[01:55] <callmepk> hi duflu 
[05:43] <jibel> ho all
[05:43] <jibel> hi*
[05:48] <duflu> Hi jibel and seb128 
[05:48] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[05:49] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you? had a good w.e?
[05:49] <duflu> seb128, I'm good but the weekend was pretty average. How was yours?
[05:50] <seb128> it was alright, nothing fancy but at least it was relaxing
[05:52] <duflu> Though I lost a portion of it when the coffee machine broke. Then I was busy researching, replacing it and rearranging the kitchen
[05:52] <duflu> They don't make/sell the cheap pod machines I use anymore, apparently
[06:01] <seb128> coffee is important :) which brand did you pick after your research?
[06:07] <duflu> seb128, Delongi(?)
[06:07] <duflu> Delonghi
[06:08] <didrocks> good morning
[06:08] <duflu> Hi didrocks 
[06:08] <seb128> duflu, sounds italian :)
[06:08] <seb128> lut didrocks, how are you? good w.e?
[06:09] <duflu> seb128, made in Romania
[06:11] <duflu> biab
[06:12] <didrocks> hey duflu, salut seb128 ! Week-end sans particularité :) et toi ?
[06:23] <seb128> didrocks, un peu pareil, rien de spécial :)
[06:40] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:40] <oSoMoN> happy Monday!
[06:43] <didrocks> happy Monday oSoMoN!
[06:43] <luna_> morning
[06:44] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN and luna_ 
[06:44] <didrocks> hey luna_ 
[06:52] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks 
[06:52] <oSoMoN> good morning luna_, duflu 
[07:18] <marcustomlinson> g'day callmepk duflu jibel seb128 didrocks oSoMoN luna_
[07:19] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[07:19] <luna_> hey didrocks oSoMoN marcustomlinson 
[07:19] <callmepk> Hi marcustomlinson jibel seb128 didrocks oSoMoN luna_ 
[07:19] <luna_> hey callmepk 
[07:19] <oSoMoN> mornin' marcustomlinson, callmepk 
[07:20] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson 
[07:20] <didrocks> and callmepk 
[07:20] <seb128> lut oSoMon, t'as passé un bon w.e?
[07:20] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, luna_, callmepk, how are you? had a nice w.e?
[07:20] <oSoMoN> seb128, très bon week-end, et toi?
[07:20] <seb128> bon w.e, rien de bien spécial mais reposant
[07:21] <marcustomlinson> weekend was bleh to be honest
[07:22] <callmepk> great! busy getting ready to move to a new apartment. and you seb128 ?
[07:22] <seb128> marcustomlinson, oh :(
[07:23] <seb128> callmepk, w.e was fine, we didn't do much but at least it was relaxing
[07:23] <seb128> well, as relaxing as it gets with little kids around at least
[08:02] <Laney> hey
[08:02] <duflu> Laney
[08:02] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:02] <Laney> duflu
[08:02] <Laney> I liked that style of greeting
[08:02] <duflu> I'm freaked out. My doorbell half tried to play Close Encounters
[08:02] <duflu> It plays odd tones depending on interference
[08:18]  * duflu wonders if everyone has been taken by aliens now
[08:19] <luna_> is not
[08:22] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney
[08:23] <didrocks> hey Laney!
[08:23] <Laney> bzzzzzzzzap
[08:23] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson & didrocks 
[08:24] <Laney> what's up
[08:24] <didrocks> noth special for this new week, and you? :)
[08:25] <oSoMoN> duflu, I watched E.T. with my daughter last night, should I check my doorbell now?
[08:26] <oSoMoN> sup Laney 
[08:26] <duflu> oSoMoN, I'd be more concerned about her anxiety after that
[08:26] <marcustomlinson> I still think it's pretty mad how ET never actually says "ET phone home"
[08:28] <duflu> 👽/
[08:28] <oSoMoN> no E.T. emoji?
[08:29] <duflu> Don't think so...
[08:29] <duflu> 👾
[08:29] <duflu>    👾
[08:29] <duflu>    👾
[08:37] <Laney> didrocks: made some elderflower "champagne", that's about the most interesting thing!
[08:37] <Laney> hey oSoMoN 
[08:37] <Laney> you good?
[08:40] <didrocks> Laney: sounds interesting :)
[08:40] <Laney> should be yummy
[08:44] <marcustomlinson> Laney: and your house smelt of elderberries?
[08:44] <Laney> yep, still does, got some left over
[08:44] <marcustomlinson> :)
[08:45]  * marcustomlinson thinks the monty python reference was lost there
[08:47] <Laney> I've never seen monty python
[08:47] <Laney> along with everything else
[08:48] <Laney> well, actually, I have seen ET
[08:48] <Laney> and Titanic, that's about it
[08:48] <marcustomlinson> and does ET say "ET phone home"?
[08:52] <marcustomlinson> well I haven't watch a single star trek, apparently that's a bad thing
[08:52] <Laney> https://youtu.be/6xZif3WmG7I?t=140 seems so
[08:53] <marcustomlinson> Laney: well done!
[08:53] <oSoMoN> Laney, I'm good, thanks!
[08:53] <Laney> youtubing is probably cheating right
[08:53]  * Laney high fives oSoMoN 
[08:53] <marcustomlinson> I also don't think H. G. Wells books are that great
[08:54]  * marcustomlinson is gonna get shot
[08:54] <oSoMoN> marcustomlinson, that's two of us then (re star trek)
[09:40] <Wimpress> Morning all o/
[09:44] <oSoMoN> mornin' Wimpress 
[09:53] <duflu> Morning Wimpress 
[10:01] <marcustomlinson> hey Wimpress
[10:05] <duflu> Also good night
[10:48] <sunweaver> ahayzen: oerheks: thanks
[11:35] <GunnarHj> Hello Laney,
[11:35] <GunnarHj> Wondering if you have any Debian contact to get a new package through the NEW queue. The reason for my question is this:
[11:35] <GunnarHj> https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/ibus-typing-booster_2.8.2-1.html
[11:35] <GunnarHj> 6+ weeks and still no response.
[11:40] <Laney> GunnarHj: No I don't have any special contacts, sorry. You can try your luck asking in #debian-ftp if you want
[11:43] <GunnarHj> Laney: I might.. Are you saying that if the desktop team wants a new package in both Ubuntu and Debian, you need to wait that long? Or maybe you start with Ubuntu only...
[11:43] <Laney> Depends on the situation, we might upload it to Ubuntu explicitly and then sync over when it gets into Debian later on
[11:44] <GunnarHj> Laney: I see. Thanks!
[11:59] <seb128> kenvandine, jamesh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1881232 sounds like something we should keep an eye on
[11:59] <jibel> xnox, hi, ubiquity 20.04.3 fails to build with a patch against partman-swapfile that fails to apply. Can you have a look?
[12:21] <xnox> yeah
[13:00] <kenvandine> seb128: thx
[13:45] <Trevinho> seb128, Laney: Hey, so for the mutter/adwaita story... I have https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4083.1/+packages ready in theory, but as I was telling seb on friday, the root problem seems to be https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/adwaita-icon-theme/-/commit/2c9109dfb729c0094883f08be2680505d7ed7dad as it makes not load the SVGs, now... we don't care having it in
[13:45] <Trevinho> ubuntu I assume, so maybe would be just better to revert this in our adwaita and that's it?
[13:45] <Trevinho> Olivier did it for the SRU
[13:46] <Trevinho> so not sure if we want to preserve this change, although would imply some delta with debian, otherwise we can just include the pngs as I did and we keep less diffs with debian's debian/control
[13:58] <Laney> Trevinho: root issue with what?
[13:58] <Trevinho> Laney: of the mutter build failure
[13:58] <Trevinho> well test failure
[13:58] <Laney> it's built in that silo
[13:58] <Laney> what's the remaining issue?
[14:19] <Trevinho> Laney: the silo is fine, I was just mentioning that there's another way to fix this, if we prefer that way
[14:19] <Trevinho> if you're fine with that, then please publish it :)
[14:20] <Laney> ah
[14:20] <Laney> but you're talking about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adwaita-icon-theme/3.36.1-2ubuntu2 no?
[14:21] <Laney> we could consider dropping the .svgs because of this couldn't we?
[14:22] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, well if we prefer to have just pngs then the fix I did is fine
[14:23] <Laney> Trevinho: point is we don't *just* have pngs, we have the svgs too, i'm saying those could be dropped to save some space
[14:23] <Laney> or is there some reason to have those?
[14:24] <Laney> bah mutter isn't in desktop set either
[14:25] <Trevinho> Laney: well, I think we can drop the svgs if we don't depend in the loader anyway
[14:25] <Laney> right
[14:26] <seb128> the sets are about to be updated which should fix adwaita, we should ask to add others problematic ones to the exceptions if needed
[14:26] <Laney> the sets are already updated
[14:26] <seb128> ah
[14:26] <seb128> Trevinho, so you should have access to upload adwaita now :)
[14:26] <Laney> silo is copied
[14:26] <seb128> thx
[14:27] <seb128> I don't know much about those icons
[14:27] <seb128> but do we have png for all useful sizes? if we drop the .svg isn't that going to create issues at some sizes?
[14:28] <Trevinho> seb128: I don't think, at the end yaru has them all in svgs
[14:28] <Trevinho> so for the desktop as whole, I wouldn't bother
[14:29] <seb128> why do we install adwaita at all if yaru has all the icons?
[14:30] <seb128> sorry for the naive questions :p
[14:41] <Laney> laney@nightingale> dpkg -L adwaita-icon-theme | grep --color=none svg | xargs ls -1 -l | awk '{print $5}' | paste -sd+ | bc                                                                                                       ~
[14:41] <Laney> 526149
[14:41] <Laney> its not a huge saving anyway
[14:49] <Laney> (yaru might want to think about encoding them to pngs too, apparently its way faster to load those)
[14:50] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:50] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[14:50] <marcustomlinson> hi hellsworth
[14:51] <hellsworth> hi guys!
[14:55]  * Laney nods hellsworth 
[14:56]  * hellsworth raises coffee mug to cheers Laney from a distance
[14:59] <didrocks> hey hey hellsworth 
[15:01] <hellsworth> o/ didrocks 
[16:39] <jdstrand> jamesh: hey, re bug #1881232, can you comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1881232/comments/1 ?