[01:24] good morning [01:32] Hi callmepk [01:55] hi duflu [05:43] ho all [05:43] hi* [05:48] Hi jibel and seb128 [05:48] goood morning desktopers [05:49] hey duflu, how are you? had a good w.e? [05:49] seb128, I'm good but the weekend was pretty average. How was yours? [05:50] it was alright, nothing fancy but at least it was relaxing [05:52] Though I lost a portion of it when the coffee machine broke. Then I was busy researching, replacing it and rearranging the kitchen [05:52] They don't make/sell the cheap pod machines I use anymore, apparently [06:01] coffee is important :) which brand did you pick after your research? [06:07] seb128, Delongi(?) [06:07] Delonghi [06:08] good morning [06:08] Hi didrocks [06:08] duflu, sounds italian :) [06:08] lut didrocks, how are you? good w.e? [06:09] seb128, made in Romania [06:11] biab [06:12] hey duflu, salut seb128 ! Week-end sans particularité :) et toi ? [06:23] didrocks, un peu pareil, rien de spécial :) [06:40] good morning desktoppers [06:40] happy Monday! [06:43] happy Monday oSoMoN! [06:43] morning [06:44] Hi oSoMoN and luna_ [06:44] hey luna_ [06:52] salut didrocks [06:52] good morning luna_, duflu [07:18] g'day callmepk duflu jibel seb128 didrocks oSoMoN luna_ [07:19] Hi marcustomlinson [07:19] hey didrocks oSoMoN marcustomlinson [07:19] Hi marcustomlinson jibel seb128 didrocks oSoMoN luna_ [07:19] hey callmepk [07:19] mornin' marcustomlinson, callmepk [07:20] hey marcustomlinson [07:20] and callmepk [07:20] lut oSoMon, t'as passé un bon w.e? [07:20] hey marcustomlinson, luna_, callmepk, how are you? had a nice w.e? [07:20] seb128, très bon week-end, et toi? [07:20] bon w.e, rien de bien spécial mais reposant [07:21] weekend was bleh to be honest [07:22] great! busy getting ready to move to a new apartment. and you seb128 ? [07:22] marcustomlinson, oh :( [07:23] callmepk, w.e was fine, we didn't do much but at least it was relaxing [07:23] well, as relaxing as it gets with little kids around at least [08:02] hey [08:02] Laney [08:02] Hi Laney [08:02] duflu [08:02] I liked that style of greeting [08:02] I'm freaked out. My doorbell half tried to play Close Encounters [08:02] It plays odd tones depending on interference [08:18] * duflu wonders if everyone has been taken by aliens now [08:19] is not [08:22] hey Laney [08:23] hey Laney! [08:23] bzzzzzzzzap [08:23] hey marcustomlinson & didrocks [08:24] what's up [08:24] noth special for this new week, and you? :) [08:25] duflu, I watched E.T. with my daughter last night, should I check my doorbell now? [08:26] sup Laney [08:26] oSoMoN, I'd be more concerned about her anxiety after that [08:26] I still think it's pretty mad how ET never actually says "ET phone home" [08:28] 👽/ [08:28] no E.T. emoji? [08:29] Don't think so... [08:29] 👾 [08:29] 👾 [08:29] 👾 [08:37] didrocks: made some elderflower "champagne", that's about the most interesting thing! [08:37] hey oSoMoN [08:37] you good? [08:40] Laney: sounds interesting :) [08:40] should be yummy [08:44] Laney: and your house smelt of elderberries? [08:44] yep, still does, got some left over [08:44] :) [08:45] * marcustomlinson thinks the monty python reference was lost there [08:47] I've never seen monty python [08:47] along with everything else [08:48] well, actually, I have seen ET [08:48] and Titanic, that's about it [08:48] and does ET say "ET phone home"? [08:52] well I haven't watch a single star trek, apparently that's a bad thing [08:52] https://youtu.be/6xZif3WmG7I?t=140 seems so [08:53] Laney: well done! [08:53] Laney, I'm good, thanks! [08:53] youtubing is probably cheating right [08:53] * Laney high fives oSoMoN [08:53] I also don't think H. G. Wells books are that great [08:54] * marcustomlinson is gonna get shot [08:54] marcustomlinson, that's two of us then (re star trek) [09:40] Morning all o/ [09:44] mornin' Wimpress [09:53] Morning Wimpress [10:01] hey Wimpress [10:05] Also good night [10:48] ahayzen: oerheks: thanks [11:35] Hello Laney, [11:35] Wondering if you have any Debian contact to get a new package through the NEW queue. The reason for my question is this: [11:35] https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/ibus-typing-booster_2.8.2-1.html [11:35] 6+ weeks and still no response. [11:40] GunnarHj: No I don't have any special contacts, sorry. You can try your luck asking in #debian-ftp if you want [11:43] Laney: I might.. Are you saying that if the desktop team wants a new package in both Ubuntu and Debian, you need to wait that long? Or maybe you start with Ubuntu only... [11:43] Depends on the situation, we might upload it to Ubuntu explicitly and then sync over when it gets into Debian later on [11:44] Laney: I see. Thanks! [11:59] kenvandine, jamesh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1881232 sounds like something we should keep an eye on [11:59] Ubuntu bug 1881232 in snapd "AppArmor blocks ibus input when IBUS_USE_PORTAL=1" [High,Confirmed] [11:59] xnox, hi, ubiquity 20.04.3 fails to build with a patch against partman-swapfile that fails to apply. Can you have a look? [12:21] yeah [13:00] seb128: thx [13:45] seb128, Laney: Hey, so for the mutter/adwaita story... I have https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4083.1/+packages ready in theory, but as I was telling seb on friday, the root problem seems to be https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/adwaita-icon-theme/-/commit/2c9109dfb729c0094883f08be2680505d7ed7dad as it makes not load the SVGs, now... we don't care having it in [13:45] ubuntu I assume, so maybe would be just better to revert this in our adwaita and that's it? [13:45] Olivier did it for the SRU [13:46] so not sure if we want to preserve this change, although would imply some delta with debian, otherwise we can just include the pngs as I did and we keep less diffs with debian's debian/control [13:58] Trevinho: root issue with what? [13:58] Laney: of the mutter build failure [13:58] well test failure [13:58] it's built in that silo [13:58] what's the remaining issue? [14:19] Laney: the silo is fine, I was just mentioning that there's another way to fix this, if we prefer that way [14:19] if you're fine with that, then please publish it :) [14:20] ah [14:20] but you're talking about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adwaita-icon-theme/3.36.1-2ubuntu2 no? [14:21] we could consider dropping the .svgs because of this couldn't we? [14:22] Laney: yeah, well if we prefer to have just pngs then the fix I did is fine [14:23] Trevinho: point is we don't *just* have pngs, we have the svgs too, i'm saying those could be dropped to save some space [14:23] or is there some reason to have those? [14:24] bah mutter isn't in desktop set either [14:25] Laney: well, I think we can drop the svgs if we don't depend in the loader anyway [14:25] right [14:26] the sets are about to be updated which should fix adwaita, we should ask to add others problematic ones to the exceptions if needed [14:26] the sets are already updated [14:26] ah [14:26] Trevinho, so you should have access to upload adwaita now :) [14:26] silo is copied [14:26] thx [14:27] I don't know much about those icons [14:27] but do we have png for all useful sizes? if we drop the .svg isn't that going to create issues at some sizes? [14:28] seb128: I don't think, at the end yaru has them all in svgs [14:28] so for the desktop as whole, I wouldn't bother [14:29] why do we install adwaita at all if yaru has all the icons? [14:30] sorry for the naive questions :p [14:41] laney@nightingale> dpkg -L adwaita-icon-theme | grep --color=none svg | xargs ls -1 -l | awk '{print $5}' | paste -sd+ | bc ~ [14:41] 526149 [14:41] its not a huge saving anyway [14:49] (yaru might want to think about encoding them to pngs too, apparently its way faster to load those) [14:50] good morning desktopers [14:50] good morning hellsworth [14:50] hi hellsworth [14:51] hi guys! [14:55] * Laney nods hellsworth [14:56] * hellsworth raises coffee mug to cheers Laney from a distance [14:59] hey hey hellsworth [15:01] o/ didrocks [16:39] jamesh: hey, re bug #1881232, can you comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1881232/comments/1 ? [16:39] Ubuntu bug 1881232 in snapd "AppArmor blocks ibus input when IBUS_USE_PORTAL=1" [High,Confirmed] === graham_ is now known as Guest21095