[02:24] <mup> PR operator#324 opened: model: don't use --app for relation-get/-set before 2.7.1 <Created by chipaca> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/324>
[06:12] <davigar15> Any updates on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1882127 I have asked in the #juju channel too. I'm not sure which team should look into it.
[08:44] <Chipaca> moin moin
[08:44] <jam> morning Chipaca
[08:45] <Chipaca> jam: had a bit of insomnia yesterday
[08:46] <jam> hi davigar15, I don't have any updates, I'll raise it in standup today with the Juju team to hopefully increase visibility. At a minimum there is a Juju bug if it *ever* panics.
[08:46] <Chipaca> jam: so there's a pr up
[08:46] <jam> Chipaca, yeah, I saw about --app. I was trying to set up different Juju versions to test it for you.
[08:46] <Chipaca> jam: (and email with context on snapcrafters)
[08:46] <Chipaca> jam: <3
[08:46] <Chipaca> incidentally we have no tests with is-app true
[08:47] <jam> Chipaca, well, you can fix that one :)
[08:47] <Chipaca> should i fix it in the same pr i'm touching the code tho
[08:47] <jam> Chipaca, do you know how far back we care about? eg, do we care about 2.6?
[08:47] <jam> Chipaca, adding tests when touching the code sounds like a good thing, no?
[08:47] <Chipaca> jam: I wouldn't care about 2.6 unless somebody asks for it
[08:48] <Chipaca> jam: but i would like to know what would break in 2.6 :-)
[08:48] <Chipaca> at some point
[08:48] <Chipaca> wrt tests, yeah, on it
[08:48] <jam> Chipaca, k. I can at least spin one up and be somewhat aware.
[08:48] <Chipaca> brain not fully engaged
[08:50] <jam> Chipaca, we should (eventually) look to have a "test the features" charm that we can run against various Juju versions. Maybe we can polish 'test-main' to grow into that.
[08:51] <Chipaca> d'oh there's a bug in my pr
[08:51]  * Chipaca fixes
[08:51]  * Chipaca writes tests first
[09:11] <Chipaca> today is going to be a long day
[09:12] <Chipaca> spent 10 minutes trying to figure out why 1.8.0 was saying it didn't have app data
[09:44] <jam> Chipaca, 1.8 ? ah, in testing
[09:44] <jam> I don't think Juju ever had a 1.8 (due to odd numbering with pyjuju vs go juju, etc.)
[09:44] <Chipaca> jam: as opposed to 2.8
[09:45] <Chipaca> ah, yeh
[09:45] <Chipaca> that
[09:46] <Chipaca> i think i'm going to take a break, go outside, see if the cobwebs go away
[09:47] <Chipaca> can't be this /lelo/ for the hangouts
[10:50] <jam> Chipaca, feeling any better?
[10:50] <jam> i'm trying to figure out what the actual issue is that they're running into, because --app was introduced in 2.7.0
[10:56] <mup> Issue operator#223 closed: Operator fails on Juju 2.7.0 and below <bug> <Created by chris-sanders> <Closed by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/223>
[10:57] <mup> Issue operator#223 opened: Operator fails on Juju 2.7.0 and below <bug> <Created by chris-sanders> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/223>
[11:00] <Chipaca> jam: omw
[11:37] <facubatista> Muy buenos días a todos!
[11:38] <Chipaca> facubatista: [citation needed]
[11:38] <Chipaca> facubatista: :) hola
[11:39] <facubatista> Chipaca, hola! sorry I skipped the first meeting, had a rough night
[11:57] <Chipaca> facubatista: same here (but 4 time zones)
[12:03] <Chipaca> jam: ping
[12:03] <jam> Chipaca, pong
[12:04] <jam> ah, sorry, brt
[12:13] <Chipaca> and now i'm going to have lunch
[12:13] <Chipaca> i blame james for that
[12:56] <jam> davigar15, can you confirm which charm it is where you run into https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1882127 ?
[12:57] <davigar15> Zookeeper one
[12:58] <jam> Chipaca, reading operator#223 I'm pretty sure it is just "below 2.7.0" where we fail
[12:58] <mup> Issue #223: Operator fails on Juju 2.7.0 and below <bug> <Created by chris-sanders> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/223>
[12:58] <davigar15> When relating to Kafka
[13:29] <Chipaca> jam: but note in email '~2.7.4' is mentioned
[13:31] <jam> Chipaca, so if it is 2.7.4 then it is about bugs in reading application data in K8s charms, not about --app not being available as an arg
[13:31] <jam> but I have the feeling they saw something that kind-of sounded like what they were seeing and decided it was the same
[13:31] <jam> Chipaca, sorry, having a serious discussion in daily, will be to standup soon
[13:31] <Chipaca> jam: yay
[15:23] <Chipaca> need to step out, bbiab
[16:31] <Chipaca> facubatista: i'll be 5 minutes late
[16:31] <facubatista> Chipaca, no worries
[16:31] <facubatista> (I'm there, just step in)
[17:03] <Chipaca> OK
[17:03] <Chipaca> I am EOD, peeps
[17:03] <Chipaca> i didn't think i'd make it this far after barely sleeping, but hey :-)
[20:58]  * facubatista eods and tomorrow is off
[20:59] <facubatista> see you all on Thursday