 @bdju [lack of tab key on the keyboard is killing me], just tap for auto complete (tab) os built into gesture
 @arthurabdulin [Hello All! My battery drains overnight with 4G on.  … Could you share your batter …], keep any apps open for video sites? some of them have implemented screen keep awake, maybe prevent sleep
[01:45] <ubptgbot> <Scott R> I'm trying to get ready for my PinePhone. Is there a way to back up contacts in UBP?
 yep, select a contact by long hold (from within contacts app) then hit top button check box for select all, then hit the three circle 'share' button, select file manager to get the contacts file in folder of choice
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[02:41] <ubptgbot> <Scott R> I think that worked, thank you
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 @mateosalta [<reply to media>], this indeed works better, no more glitchy display issue although the hexgl game is still slow which was playable before on oxide
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 @Javacookies [this indeed works better, no more glitchy display issue although the hexgl game …], you were able to get that to work? I have had zero luck trying that (haven't tried it lately)
 is there a kindle app for UT? I thought there was but I dont see it in openstore (or Im blind)
 @Shakendo [you were able to get that to work? I have had zero luck trying that (haven't tri …], yes, but it's really slow and the whole system slows down with it 😅
 @Shakendo [is there a kindle app for UT? I thought there was but I dont see it in openstore …], you mean some kind of a reader? … isn't the highlighted app exactly that?
 @Javacookies [yes, but it's really slow and the whole system slows down with it 😅], hmm, I should try it on my note 4, Ive been told it seems faster than pinephone
 @Javacookies [you mean some kind of a reader? … isn't the highlighted app exactly that?], well I have a bunch of books with amazon kindle, Id like to get those on UT
 @Shakendo [hmm, I should try it on my note 4, Ive been told it seems faster than pinephone], I don't think you can, only the pinephone uses wayland which qtwebengine can run with acceleration
 prob not, but the only way to know for aure is to try it
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 @dohbee [it can be built as a click separately for testing, but it doesn't replace the sy …], Thanks for clarification.
 @mateosalta [its the only one on wayland], Ok, thanks.
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 @Shakendo [is there a kindle app for UT? I thought there was but I dont see it in openstore …], It was a webapp and I unpublished it, because it didn't work reliably anymore and haven't had the time to look into it.
[07:23] <ubptgbot> Herbstfreud was added by: Herbstfreud
 Hello! :) … I have Ubuntu Touch installed on my Nexus 5. But when I turn off the display, the display is not really "off", it's just a black screen but the background lights are still on... Is this a bug or is there something wrong just on my device?
 @Herbstfreud [Hello! :) … I have Ubuntu Touch installed on my Nexus 5. But when I turn off the d …], I noticed this but it seems to only happen when Unity8/Lomiri just started
 On my device the display is on all the time...
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[08:07] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> Pinetab Community Edition is now available for pre orders: https://store.pine64.org/?product=pinetab-10-1-linux-tablet
 @Herbstfreud [On my device the display is on all the time...], I see, mine turns off fine when I press the power button
 @Steve Kueffer [Pinetab Community Edition is now available for pre orders: https://store.pine64. …], wow nice one
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 @Javacookies [I see, mine turns off fine when I press the power button], Do you also have a Nexus 5?
 @Herbstfreud [Do you also have a Nexus 5?], yes, I'll check again and see thoroughly 😁
 @mateosalta [yep, select a contact by long hold (from within contacts app) then hit top butto …], 👍
 @Herbstfreud [Hello! :) … I have Ubuntu Touch installed on my Nexus 5. But when I turn off the d …], Just tested on my freshly installed UBPort on my Nexus 5. Screen really turns off when I press the power button.
 @Steve Kueffer [Pinetab Community Edition is now available for pre orders: https://store.pine64. …], While the phone is interesting (despite $5 chip), the tablet doesnt make much sense, as you can buy a windows tablet and put ubuntu in it
 @Anghirrim [Just tested on my freshly installed UBPort on my Nexus 5. Screen really turns of …], Ok, as soon as I have time again I'll try to reinstall the whole system... Don't know what exactly went wrong.
 Or can I find out this somehow?
 Hi I can get to Redmi 5 plus (yes this one https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/vince/ ) I just want to know how fine is it working (protentional daily driver when ignoring that camera is not working? )
[09:15] <ubptgbot> <Mike C> I am going to be honest I am almost more interested in the pinetab than the pinephone. It's a beautiful piece of hardware.
 Does UBPorts need the UBports recovery to apply updates?
 I mean... I flashed UBPorts on my Nexus 5. Then flashed back TWRP.
 TWRP is able to backup and restore UBPorts
 (Which a feature that lacks the UBPorts recovery)
 Can I keep TWRP, or will it be a problem while running UBPorts upgrade?
 The following artifacts have expired and are no longer able to be downloaded.
 any idea what to do
 (Photo, 1600x795) https://irc.ubports.com/vY1JEoBc.png
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 @Steve Kueffer [Pinetab Community Edition is now available for pre orders: https://store.pine64. …], oh that's tempting
 It seems that on edge, on my Nexus 5, echoing a valid value (0 to 32) to /sys/class/backlight/lm3630/device/lm3630_level actually changes the backlight brightness, but changing the value of /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness does nothing
 @Anghirrim [Does UBPorts need the UBports recovery to apply updates?], OK, had an OTA, answer is no. 😂
 @average_italian [While the phone is interesting (despite $5 chip), the tablet doesnt make much se …], That is true, and it might even be an adequate experience. But I have found that Ubuntu Touch really shines as a tablet OS because the absence of all the popular messaging and social media apps in the mainstream is less of an issue.
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 And also some (many) people doesn't want to bother with "putting ubuntu on a windows tablet" or doesn't want to give money to Microsoft by buying a windows tablet.
 So it's good to have an Ubuntu Touch tablet.
 [Edit] So it's good to have an Ubuntu Touch tablet for sale.
 @Steve Kueffer [Pinetab Community Edition is now available for pre orders: https://store.pine64. …], Just pre-ordered mine. Hope the low ram is not a big problem and am curious to see how Ubuntu touch works on it.👍
 @Niggolas [Just pre-ordered mine. Hope the low ram is not a big problem and am curious to s …], Marius has a video of it and that one only has 1 GB of RAM if I'm not mistaken
 @Javacookies [Marius has a video of it and that one only has 1 GB of RAM if I'm not mistaken], I have seen that. Seems promising
 it is indeed 😁
 Same SOC and PineTab screen has less pixels than PinePhone screen so there's no need to worry.
 Hey quick question: How do I add and use snap packages on Ubuntu Touch?
 @Comrade_Nora [Hey quick question: How do I add and use snap packages on Ubuntu Touch?], you can't yet
 Yet?????
 Can you use regular Debian ARM packages?
 only on Libertine
 Considering that many applications do not fit the phone.
 @TigranKhachatryan [Yet?????], I believe flatpak and snap is planned in the future
 @Javacookies [I believe flatpak and snap is planned in the future], Wow!
[13:58] <bdju> my channel keeps going back to stable when I set it to development, and it's not downloading the development stuff.
[13:58] <bdju> on the pinephone
[13:59] <bdju> is there a cli method to change this and update?
[14:04] <bdju> the terminal preferences screen is totally unresponsive. I was gonna try to find a way to zoom out so more fits on the screen, but I can't change font or anything or even back out. had to open the slide out bar thing to get out
 When I was translating it, it seemed that the terminal was very customizable
 Strange
[14:11] <bdju> my inputs were just being rejected, it's surely some sort of bug
[14:11] <bdju> I keep wishing there was a way to go "back" or "home" from anywhere. I've ended up on a screen where the back arrow doesn't show up at least once
[14:12] <bdju> and then even if I change apps, if that app was settings or something it stays stuck on that screen when I go back to it. I have to close and re-open it.
 Terminal settings is a known issue https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/pinephone/-/issues/39
[14:12] <bdju> oh, nice. thank you.
[14:16] <ubptgbot> <Asraf - Littradex Support Canuck> (Photo, 517x758) https://irc.ubports.com/8o7I2teI.png
 @bdju [I keep wishing there was a way to go "back" or "home" from anywhere. I've ended …], I installed "Launcher modular" and the home button works with it
 If you do have a home button
 @TigranKhachatryan the PinePhone does not have a home button
 Big sad
[14:20] <bdju> yeah... my first phone without capacitive buttons
 Additionally the home button opens the Drawer
 Well, I use a port so I'll just shut my mouth
 I succumbed to temptation and pre-ordered the pineTab with the keyboard
 Hello everybody! I'm porting ubports to asus zenfone 6 and I have a question. Is it a good practice to use Erfan's generic systemimage or it's recommended to build own (I'm asking because my systemimage [doesn't build](https://gitlab.com/vtsoft/halium-i01wd/-/blob/master/error_sysimage.txt))?
 I'd also recommend to ask it in Halium group
 I see you're there
 @ArubIslander [It was a webapp and I unpublished it, because it didn't work reliably anymore an …], ahh, ok, so Im not as crazy as I feared
 Screen Casting your UT device to your computer — UBports documentation … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/screencasting.html
 ??
 That's cool actually
 @dohbee   Can this be used as an alternative to Miracast?
 Screen Casting your UT device to your computer — UBports documentation … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/screencasting.html
 Oh Miracast
 When I didn't have a smart TV
 I connected an HDMI cable to my TV
 And to my computer
 There was some HTTP screenshare
 I used that
 [Edit] http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/screencasting.html#via-network
 Tbh, it was faster than Miracast
 @TigranKhachatryan [Tbh, it was faster than Miracast], The Network screen share?
 Yup
 Cool, may have a try tonight
 But... This requires to have a running host...
 And would converged apps realize they are casted?
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 I mean, auto resize thanks to Convergence
 It is like screen record sadly
 Don't know how it reacts on UBPorts if you're going to use that
 Crap
 BTW, I did not find how to import .vcf files into the contacts app
 Neither on the phone, and the documentation...
 Is it possible?
 Idk
 Maybe you can use Google takeout and add a Google account?
 If it works for me it didn't
 @Anghirrim [BTW, I did not find how to import .vcf files into the contacts app], Open them with the File Manager and select the contacts app
 @UniversalSuperBox [Open them with the File Manager and select the contacts app], Oh I will do that today too then
 @Anghirrim [I mean, auto resize thanks to Convergence], Yes, apps on an external display will resize appropriately
 Whether the external display is wired or wireless
 @UniversalSuperBox [Open them with the File Manager and select the contacts app], Cool thanks
 @UniversalSuperBox [Whether the external display is wired or wireless], OK, this is valid with slimport, MHL, Miracast. … So you're saying it will also work with the built in screen casting option?
 mirscreencast is just for recording the screen
 @UniversalSuperBox [mirscreencast is just for recording the screen], OK, so no Convergence resizing with mirscreencast, even if we don't choose output to a file
 Only Miracast or wired connection then... (Trying to find an effective solution for my OP3)
 Will it be possible to run nexflix through the browser at any stage?
 Is there a way to set the keyboard to dvorak?
 @Qiangong2 [Is there a way to set the keyboard to dvorak?], I'd Google "Dvorak UBPorts" first
 But I think not
 @dynasty17 [Will it be possible to run nexflix through the browser at any stage?], Wasn't there a web app?
 There is a dvorak keyboard layout for English
 @TigranKhachatryan [I'd Google "Dvorak UBPorts" first], Apparently there is, but I can't figure out where to enable it
 Oh, cool!
 Press and hold the Language button then go to settings
 Unless I'm just blind in settings
 Oh
 Thanks!
 @TigranKhachatryan [Wasn't there a web app?], Not for viewing, just for organising account.
 Oh ok
 I don't use it so idk
 @Anghirrim [@dohbee   Can this be used as an alternative to Miracast?], no
[15:25] <bdju> I'm using dvorak on ubports. the name of teh layout was weird, but it's there. en-dv or something like that
[15:25] <bdju> it would be cool to see colemak and workman layouts added as well
 @dohbee [no], Thanks
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[17:08] <ubptgbot> <Carlo Cataneo> (Photo, 721x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Vf908CtX.png
[17:08] <ubptgbot> <Carlo Cataneo> Just insolled
[17:09] <ubptgbot> <Carlo Cataneo> Nexus 5
[17:10] <ubptgbot> <Carlo Cataneo> Very nice I am happy. Thanks Ubuntu Touch, Ubport...
[17:11] <ubptgbot> <Carlo Cataneo> [Edit] Just installed
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 Welcome to the party :)
 welcome
 Hey guys! I installed Ubuntu touch on my device, but touch isn't working. Anyone knows what could be the reason ??
 what device? and what isn't working exactly?
 @dohbee [what device? and what isn't working exactly?], Realme 3 pro (RMX1851). I booted successfully, but on the select language screen (1st screen at boot), the screen was not responding to any touches. Erfan said there is some kernel issue
 that is not a supported device. if you're porting it, you should ask questions about it in https://t.me/halium probably
 @dohbee [that is not a supported device. if you're porting it, you should ask questions a …], Oh okay, thanks 👍
[18:29] <ToxicGumbo> I understand the philosophy of not allowing icons outside of the vertical dock and app drawer, but for folks like me who live if grouped apps, is there any way to add drawers to the dock?
[18:29] <ToxicGumbo> Where grouped app shortcuts can live?
[18:30] <ToxicGumbo> “Live in grouped apps”. iOS folders to be specific.
[19:08] <bdju> how can I change to the development channel and check for updates via the terminal? the updates section of settings is not working well for me at all
[19:09] <bdju> https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/switchchannel.html found this page but it only says the graphical method
[19:12] <bdju> the os update that should exist isn't coming through
[19:16] <bdju> I found the update button in the about section which got me excited, but no luck still
[19:16] <bdju> unless maybe I'm somehow up-to-date without realizing it
[19:17] <bdju> my version says Ubuntu 16.04 (2020-06-08)
[22:47] <goddard> hi
[22:47] <goddard> does unity 8 work on the desktop at all?
[22:47] <goddard> or does ubports not work on that?